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'All over the UK, millions of people just like you and me | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
'are being driven up the wall by anti-social nuisance noise.' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
At times, you almost feel like you are going mad. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
It's making me feel I don't seem to have much right as a human being. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
'Persistent parties... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
'aggravating alarms... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
'and banging builders. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
'They're keeping us awake, disturbing our peace and quiet, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
'and driving us to despair.' | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
It really is stressful and irritating. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
It's just a nightmare. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
'But the fight back is on.' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
You need to speak to us. We're getting complaints from your neighbours about the noise. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
'Across the country, dedicated enforcement teams are getting to grips with nuisance noise, 24/7.' | 0:00:47 | 0:00:53 | |
People have a misconception that they can make noise during the day. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
People don't feel that they can go and speak to their neighbours. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
'Enough is enough. It's time to put an end to nuisance noise.' | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
If they decide to stick two fingers up at the council and carry on, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
well, then we'll throw the book at them. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
'It's time to meet the no-nonsense Noise Squad.' | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
'Coming up today on Noise Squad. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
'Tensions rise when officers go on busker patrol.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
I'm causing no nuisance. You're being a pain in the backside. You're not listening to reasoning. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
'The team gatecrash a noisy birthday party | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
'and lay down the law of the land.' | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
We've had two other complaints from two other flats, right? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
You're going to have to just knock the tunes on the head. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
'And there's a visit to investigate someone who's allegedly running a joinery business from his garage.' | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
The complaint that I've received is about you doing some sort of woodwork. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
'For visitors to big cities, scenes like this | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
'and sounds like this | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
'can be an entertaining way to spend five or ten minutes | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
'whilst you're doing some sightseeing. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
'But for those who live and work in major cities, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
'the noise produced by buskers isn't always so welcome.' | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
It's very annoying, to be honest. Very, very annoying. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Busking isn't so bad if they're not there for so long. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
And if the music's OK it's not too bad, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
but it can become a distraction after a while. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
'Busking isn't illegal in London, and in Westminster, buskers don't need a licence to perform, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:46 | |
'except in Covent Garden and the Underground. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'If they're making a bit of a racket, though, the council's noise squad | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
'have the powers to step in at any time of day. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
'Today, Steve Pennington, who's worked for the council for six years, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
'is heading out on proactive patrol.' | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
We're just off to Leicester Square to meet up with the police and some wardens | 0:03:03 | 0:03:09 | |
and have a walk round and just check for noisy buskers. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
'Steve's heading out to check on buskers who've been spoken to in the past.' | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
Quite a number were warned about a month ago | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
and were issued with notices, with warnings. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
We're not that draconian that it's an immediate offence, they do get a proper warning first, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
and, obviously, if they decide to stick two fingers up at the council and carry on, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
well, then we'll throw the book at them. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
'Although he's out on a proactive patrol to check on buskers who've been warned in the past, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
'a complaint has come in and Steve has to deal with it.' | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
I'm just heading down to Villiers Street where a report of a busker's come in, disturbing some offices. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:52 | |
And it's still office time, still before five o'clock, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
so we'll have a look down and see what we can see. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
'As Steve arrives, he doesn't need any help finding the melody makers. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
MUSIC: "Help!" by The Beatles | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
'They're bashing out Beatles songs. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
'They certainly look the part, and they're not bad, are they?' | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
# Won't you please, please help me...? # | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
'The microphones and speakers mean that the tunes they're trotting out will be louder than usual, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
'and that could be causing a nuisance for people working nearby.' | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
I'll do a quick assessment from the offices to make sure that it is a nuisance | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and we'll take it from there. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
'Steve heads upstairs to speak to someone in the office who's complained.' | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
My colleague next door opens one for ventilation, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
and as you can see there's two sort of things, so when he opens it, it's even louder. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Of course, they've stopped singing now. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Have they? They're still playing. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Yeah. They'll start building up, I mean, cos they do a mixture | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
of The Beatles, Oasis, the Monkees, and it depends... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
-..which tunes you get. -Oh, wow. Yeah, I see. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
'This lady might be a bit camera shy, but she's seriously fed up. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
'Steve, though, has to be even handed, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
'and will only take action if he thinks there's a nuisance being caused.' | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
So, if it was, you know, once in a blue moon, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
it wouldn't be such an issue. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
But because... I mean, I think this is the third time they've come this week. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
-We all have to concentrate and it is distracting. -Absolutely. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
And they are being quiet now, but... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
I can't hear it at all, actually. My luck. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
No, but that's because they're being quiet. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
'From this office, there doesn't seem to be a problem. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
'Steve goes through to a colleague's room who has the window open. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
'The tunes that he hears might be fine for day trippers, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
'but not for folk who have to concentrate and get some work done.' | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Yeah, I mean, this isn't outrageous. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
It's quite gentle, this particular track, but these offices here, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
who are solicitors, if they've got that going on, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
the same four or five tracks, all day, allegedly, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
since early...mid-morning, and it's now five o'clock, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
I can understand that could become a nuisance. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
'Steve decides that the music from below could be disruptive to people trying to work, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
'so he heads back downstairs. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
'Here in Westminster, if an officer witnesses loud noise from a busker, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
'he doesn't need to have had a complaint to take action. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
'He can serve the busker, with a written notice | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'telling him to stop the noise at that site, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
'and that usually means the busker will have to shut up, pack up and move on. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
'If the notice is ignored, the busker runs the risk | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
'of having his equipment confiscated, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
'and getting a fine of up to £5,000. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
'Best of British or not, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
'Steve lays down the law and tells the pair | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
'that they can't stay in the same spot for more than half an hour.' | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Guys. Steve from the council. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
I've had a good listen, OK, it's not outrageous, all right, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
but, you've been here all day, yeah? I think that's what the problem is. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
We do a good job, as you can see, and we do generate a good crowd, a good environment for London. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
You know, it's... | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
It's kind of a tourist attraction, all these tourists taking photographs. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-Yeah. Yeah. -The Beatles, it's British culture. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
'Sometimes Steve and his colleagues have to ruffle a few feathers | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
'to keep the peace and quiet.' | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Most buskers, not all, have pretty much done their whole repertoire in 10, 15, 20 minutes, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
and then it's just a repeat of the same thing over and over again. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
All right. Well, I'll take your details. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
What's your names? | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
'Steve serves a formal written notice. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
'Ignoring it could lead to a prosecution and a fine of up to £5000. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:43 | |
'This pair, though, claim that's not a problem, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
'as they have earned plenty of pennies down this lane.' | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
As long as you make sure that what you're doing isn't causing a problem, then... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
You can take the five grand now, if you want! | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
'The lads have been co-operative and accept the notice with good humour.' | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
Shake your hand? Can you hand it over to me? You do it, then. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
I'd like to present you with this notice. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
It's too loud! | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Shhh. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
People need to work. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
'Steve's happy that this situation is sorted and he lets the buskers be.' | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
I've explained to them that it wasn't particularly the level of the music, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
I mean, the three or four minutes of music that I've heard was actually quite good and quite reasonable. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
However, listening to the same music over and over again, for the offices | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
that are literally 15, 20 metres away, is too much. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
'For their part, the music makers understand | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
'that their tribute to the loved Liverpudlians is not enjoyed by everyone.' | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I can understand where they're coming from. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
It probably disturbs people here and there. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
On the other hand, we're also giving a free performance of entertainment | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
for just anybody, and we make a lot of people smile and a lot of people happy. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
It's British culture, especially for tourists. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
It's an institution. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
They're going, "Look, it's The Beatles." That's part of Britain. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Whatever happened to peace and love, eh? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
'They might not have many fans in the nearby offices, but they do have one or two groupies.' | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
I enjoy the music, I enjoy the person. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
He is, er...similar The Beatles. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
'Steve's warning did the trick. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
'To date, no further complaints have been received about these buskers, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
'and no further action has been necessary. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
'If there's one type of nuisance noise that produces more complaints than anything else, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
'it's noisy neighbours that just won't pipe down.' | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Some people have got animals they can't control, young children. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
They just don't have any respect, or think of other people. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
You know, ten people, even five people, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
can make so much noise when they get a little bit drunk | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and it all gets out of hand. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
'Loud DIY and barking dogs can be a real problem, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
'but by far the biggest cause of complaint are loud parties.' | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
-Can you get me somebody who lives here? -I live here. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Go and turn the music down, then come back and talk to me. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
'Like many noise teams around the country, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
'the Belfast noise squad are used to dealing with rowdy revellers | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
'who are making too much noise and keeping their neighbours awake.' | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
I'm getting complaints from your neighbours about the level of noise from your property. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
That music is far too loud. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
You need to turn it off, or turn it right down. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
All you need to do is keep the door closed and the music down. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
If you keep it inside the house, you know, it'll not be an issue. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
'Tonight, noise officers Steve and Tim, who've got 15 years' experience between them, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
'are on the night shift.' | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
Everybody's got home after a long week at work, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
thought, "Ah, nice weather, barbecue, back garden, loud music on." | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
'It's just after nine, and they've received a complaint about a noisy party.' | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
We're heading to a complaint about loud music, rave music. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
Where is the music coming from, there? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Yeah, it must be one of the two. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
We'll go and talk to them, but it's unlikely they'll listen to us, this time of night. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
'Having assessed if there's a problem, they knock on the noise maker's door.' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
HE KNOCKS ON WINDOW | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-How're you doing? We're from Belfast City Council noise service. -Hiya. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
We're having some complaints about the noise from your property. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
'The lady says that she didn't think noise was a problem until 11 at night. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
'Steve sets her straight.' | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
It's fairly loud, so it is, so if you'll just close the windows and doors and keep it down, OK? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
If we have to come back later on, you could be looking at a warning notice and a £100 fine. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
With that at the level of noise we heard there now. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
'Despite Steve's warning, the lady argues her case.' | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
After 11 o'clock you can get fined. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
Before 11, we'll just come and have a chat with you. OK? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
This the first time we've come to your property. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
It is the first time you've came here, like. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Good night. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
'The doors and windows get shut. Not too delicately. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
'If you're being disturbed by noisy neighbours, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
'the first thing to do to try and resolve it is to speak calmly with them. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
'If that's not possible, keep a record of the time and type of noise that's bothering you | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
'so that when you call your local council for help, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
'you can give them as much useful information as possible. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
'And remember - DON'T call 999 about a noise nuisance, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
'get in touch with your local council.' | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
People have a misconception that they can make as much noise as they want during the day. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
The council can take action on loud noise disturbance day or night, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
we've stronger powers after 11 o'clock. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
But, you know, if there's really loud music on during the day, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
the council can still take action on it. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
'Time will tell if Steve and Tim's verbal warning will keep this noisy neighbour quiet, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
'but for now they're on their way to a rowdy party. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
'First, they go to see the person that has called to complain.' | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
There seems to be an element of party makers. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
You know, the music's not pumping, it's really just them out on the balcony is the main problem. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
What we've got to look at is how unreasonable they're being and how poor the sound insulation is. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:36 | |
We'll probably go down and have a wee chat with them, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
but if it goes back up again loud, after we leave, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
we can come back and serve a written warning, threaten a £100 fine. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
But at the minute it's not loud enough for that. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
'Different councils deal with nuisance noise slightly differently. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
'But in order to take action, all officers must witness a problem first hand. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
'Here in Belfast, before 11 o'clock, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
'officers usually give verbal warnings. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
'After this time, they can serve a more formal warning notice. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
'If this is ignored, they can hand out a £100 fine. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
'Should the problem still persist, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
'then the noise maker risks being prosecuted in the Magistrate's Court | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
'and in extreme cases fined up to £5,000. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
'In this case the noise isn't loud enough for a warning notice, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
'but Tim and Steve have decided it does warrant them having a word.' | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Hi, we're from the council's noise service. Can I speak to somebody who lives here? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
I live here. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
Right. Getting complaints from the neighbours about the level of noise. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
SPEECH INAUDIBLE | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
DOOR BANGS | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
INAUDIBLE SPEECH | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
'This guy says he's having a birthday bash, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
'but that's no excuse for making nuisance noise.' | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
Because it's flats, it travels straight through, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and everybody out on the balcony shouting, so if you can try and keep them in off the balcony. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
We're trying to be reasonable with you, we understand it's a Friday night, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
so we're saying, just calm it down, turn the music down a bit. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
'The birthday boy is arguing his case | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
'and says he doesn't complain about other people when they make a noise.' | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
But it's people's prerogative to complain. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Can you turn the bass way down, and overall volume down a bit? It's still too loud. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
'He asks if turning the volume down would solve the problem.' | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Well, it depends whether you're shouting and singing along to it. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
'This fellow is arguing his case, but Tim's clear - | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
'if things get any louder, there could be a problem. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
'With ten years' experience on the job, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
'he's worried that this situation is going to get worse before it gets better.' | 0:15:35 | 0:15:41 | |
He was actually all right, but it's his birthday party, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
and I don't think he's going to, you know... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
I'm not sure he's going to listen. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
'Tim's instincts were right. Just as they're leaving, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
'someone cranks the music up and the lads return inside.' | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
The way the apartments are, we have to park out the front | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
and the noise makers can see us from their balcony. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
So they had the music on when we went back out to the car. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
And now they've seen us come back in, they've turned it off again. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I'm hearing some music and voices. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
We'll call on the complainant again? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
'This is turning into a game of cat and mouse. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
'Tim and Steve are a patient pair, though. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
'They head back to the neighbour's flat to listen to the noise levels there.' | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
It's all calm, but I think it's because they seen us coming back in. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
So, I think we'll leave it for now. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
It may well go back up again when they see us leave, but I think they've seen us come back in. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
So if we go away and do a couple of calls, and if it does come back up again and you want us back, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
we'll come back and try and drive in, maybe that'll be less conspicuous. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
'As it's all gone quiet, there's nothing Tim and Steve can do for now, and they head off. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
'That's not the end of this noisy story, though. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
'We'll be back with the lads later as they return to this block of flats for a third time. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
'And this time, they catch the noise maker in the act.' | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
We've had two complaints from other flats, all right? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
You'll have to knock the tunes on the head. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
'For people who live and work in London, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
'loud and repetitive busking can be a nuisance.' | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
# Won't you please, please help me? # | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
'Busking, though, isn't illegal. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
'Westminster Council's noise squad only take action | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
'by serving a notice that legally obliges buskers to quieten down | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
'or face the possibility of prosecution | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
'and having their equipment confiscated when it's necessary.' | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
We don't serve notices on everybody, only those that are likely to be causing a nuisance, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
or the ones that are, in fact, causing a nuisance. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
We live and let live as much as we can in Westminster, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
it's just a case of controlling the noise as best we can, in a way, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and where we can as well. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
'Mike Peters has worked for the noise squad for 20 years, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
'and today he's out and about on a proactive busker patrol.' | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
See who's causing the problem, give him a little bit of a warning, if not a notice. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
'As he walks through Piccadilly Circus, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
'he comes across a band with amplifiers, boosting their noise level, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
'which he thinks has the potential to be causing people a bit of earache.' | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Right, you can see the band over the far side of the square, there. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
What I'll do is go into some of these shops, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
see if you can actually hear them, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
and then we'll serve a notice on them as it's likely to be a nuisance in the future. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
'Mike's instincts are spot on. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
'A nearby restaurant manager, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
'whose business has live music that he says has to compete with buskers outside almost every day, | 0:18:53 | 0:19:00 | |
'is fed up.' | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
They play it too loud. Especially on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
we got, I mean, the music live in here | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
and they're really affecting our business. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
Cos you've got two music playing at the same time | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
and it's quite disturbing. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
It's very annoying, to be honest. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Too loud. It's too loud. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
'Although the restaurant manager says that buskers here are a problem, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
'Mike and his colleagues haven't received a direct complaint about this band. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
'They're in an area surrounded by businesses and homes though, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
'so Mike's going to take action.' | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, I've been into the restaurant here, and you can certainly hear it inside. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
It's likely to be a nuisance if it's a bit louder, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
so I think what we'll do is serve a notice on them. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
'Noise officers have to witness nuisance noise first hand to do something about it. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
'But it doesn't need to have been complained about. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
'Mike's serving a noise abatement notice to try and head off any problems before they arise. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:03 | |
'The notice means the buskers will have to turn the music down | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
'and it limits the amount of time and how often they can play here. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
'If they breach it, they could be prosecuted, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
'have their instruments confiscated | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
'and be fined. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
'Once again, Mike's instincts are bang on the money. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
'Just as he's about to serve a notice on the buskers for being a likely nuisance in the future, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
'there's been a complaint from a disgruntled worker | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
'who's fed up with the noise.' | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
There's now a job on the system from someone who's working round here, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
about this band. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
It just so happens that we're here, which is a coincidence. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
'Having witnessed the noise, and with a complaint on the system, Mike moves in.' | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
I'm from the noise team. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Your busking here is too loud. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-OK. -You can clearly hear it in people's commercial premises. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
-OK. -We've had a complaint as well. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
'He explains that he's serving a notice. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
'Because although they've drawn a crowd, their performance isn't being enjoyed by everyone.' | 0:20:59 | 0:21:05 | |
So I'm going to serve a notice on you. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
OK, what's that going to entail? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:09 | |
What it means is, if you come back here and you play the music | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
at a level that's a nuisance, then you can personally be prosecuted. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-OK. -And I'll serve one on each of you chaps as well | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
and then it'll cover you all. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
A correct name and address will be helpful... OK. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
..as we've got the police here as well. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
'Mike might have stopped the band playing, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
'but not everyone is fed up of hearing them. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
'Some folk obviously think they were quite good.' | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
What's the remit of this notice? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
You could be fined up to 5,000 quid, or, more importantly, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
we can take your equipment away, too. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-Right. Be a shame, wouldn't it? -It'd be a shame for you. -It would be a dreadful shame for us. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
'This chap has been reasonable and co-operative. Mike serves the other two members with their notice, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
'and although they understand why they've been served, they think they've got a bit of a bum deal.' | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
I understand there are places in London, you know, neighbours, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
and I understand that they complain, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
but it's five o'clock, we're playing in Piccadilly Circus, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
there's a lot of traffic here louder than us | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
and I think we're only entertaining people and making people happy. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
It's a great city, city of musicians | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
and I'm very disappointed. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
But we're happy to pack and go. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
It's just a shame that someone's always there to poop the party. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
'On every case they deal with, noise officers have to be even-handed, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
'and Mike has had to weigh up the balance | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
'of the entertainment these guys are providing, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
'against the nuisance that it's causing some who work round here.' | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
I do have sympathy for buskers because, actually, a lot of them are very good | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
and they're very original and they're good at what they do. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
But the trouble I have, it's OK if you're a tourist | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
and you're listening to it for 10, 15 minutes and you can move on, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
but if you're working around here then you don't get any break from it | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
and they could be there for hours at a time unless someone complains or we see them. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
'To date, there have been no further complaints about these buskers | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
'and Mike and his colleagues have taken no further action against them.' | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
'Things might have quietened down here, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
'but it's not the end of Mike's busker patrol.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
You told me you're Westminster Council. So what? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
'Tensions rise when he confronts a musician in Trafalgar Square.' | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
You tell me to turn it down and I'll turn it down. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
I'm not causing a nuisance. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
'In Belfast, Tim and Steve are called back to the raucous birthday party.' | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
It's annoying three different apartments. It's far too loud, man. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
'And in York, the team respond to an allegation that a business | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
'is being run from a council tenant's home.' | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
We've had this allegation, wanted to come and see what you're doing. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
'York has over 200,000 residents. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
'It's a busy city | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
'and its noise team dealt with 2,500 calls last year. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
'Over 1,500 of those were about neighbourly noise | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
'and that isn't always loud music.' | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
This is what's making the noise. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
I received one when I got home today. CHICKENS CLUCK | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
'Craig Delorenzo has been with the noise team for over six years.' | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
It's Craig Delorenzo here from York Council. Are you all right to talk? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
'He has a degree in biological sciences, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'a master's degree in environmental health and a diploma in acoustics. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
'But one of the biggest qualifications for this job | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
'is being able to listen and often mediate between disgruntled neighbours.' | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
We're off to speak with a council tenant | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
about noise being created by woodwork. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
He's doing it in his council property, which can be a breach of his tenancy | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
as well as causing a noise nuisance. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
'It's alleged by the neighbour that the tenant is running a business from his home. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
'That would have serious implications for him if he hasn't got permission from the council.' | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
I'm going on a joint visit with Nicki Simpson from the Council Housing Department. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
She's the estate manager for the area, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
so she's in charge of the tenants | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
and their behaviour within council tenancies. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
We work closely together on cases like this. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
We gather the evidence for them and if they feel it's necessary, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
they will evict the tenant for noise nuisance. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
As this is the first complaint, I expect that the person may be disappointed | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
that their neighbours haven't been round to speak to them about the problem themselves. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
You know, modern times, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
it's a real shame that people don't get to know their neighbours as much as they did in the past, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
and it often means that we are the first port of call | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
when it comes to a problem such as a noise problem. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
People don't feel that they can go and speak to their neighbours, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
be that because they're intimidated by them, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
or just that they don't want to get involved in a dispute with their neighbours. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
'Like his colleagues across the UK, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
'Craig has to take an even-handed approach to all complaints he deals with. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
'So he'll be listening to both sides of the story before deciding what action, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
'if any, will be needed in this case.' | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
I'm just going out to find out exactly what work he is doing in his property, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:27 | |
see if there is anything that we can offer in advice | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
and find out exactly who he is, what he's doing and why he's doing it. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
'Craig and Nicki go in to gather the facts and discuss the complaint.' | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Craig Delorenzo from the Environment Protection Unit. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
This is Nicki Simpson, she's your estate manager. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
We've had a complaint, and we're wondering if we can have a chat with you about it. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Yeah, course you can. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
So the complaint that I've received is about you doing some sort of woodwork | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
for building bird boxes and things like that. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
Is that right? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
-Well, I do make things for myself, yeah. -Right. Just for yourself? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-That's it, yeah. -Right. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Cos the allegation that we've received is that | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
you're making it for selling them on, or whatever. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
-Is that not the case? -No, it's not, no. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
We've just moved in here. I've built everything in the garden. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-Right. Can I have a look in the garden? -Course you can. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
So it's quite a hobby of yours, then, the woodwork? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Yes. I did actually do it for a living. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
I had to claim certain benefits because I'm on a low income, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
we don't earn a fortune, you know, the council know that I do that. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
I do do bits and bobs here, but it's just for myself. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
Well, just as we pulled up I could hear you had some sort of wood saw going. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Once in a blue moon I do, but I... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
if I do something here, it's about an hour a day. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Just a couple of hours or so then that shouldn't be a problem. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
It's when we get complaints... If you were running like a sawmill here, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
and it was continuous, day in, day out, that would be an issue. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Or if you were doing it at three in the morning. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I wouldn't do anything before ten o'clock. Because I wouldn't like it myself. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
As long as you're doing it for your own benefit and you're not | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
working from here and doing hours on end it shouldn't be a problem. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
'Running a business from home has insurance and health and safety issues. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
'It also needs written permission from the council.' | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
The allegations that we've received is that you are doing a lot here | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
and it's being transported out. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
I checked with Benefits, and they said that, yes, you were self-employed, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
which is fine and all above board. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
The issue that we've got is if you are doing some of it here | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
-for your business, then you've got to have permission from us to do that. -OK. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I do saw stuff here, there's stuff here now that I do take out because it's a lot easier. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
We've had this allegation, we wanted to come and see what you're doing, and give you some advice if needed. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
What you've told me is perfectly reasonable | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
and we wouldn't have a problem with that. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
'It seems like the tenant is not in breach of any noise laws and is receptive to Craig's advice.' | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
As long as you're not doing anything wrong, then as far as we're concerned there's no issue. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
If we can say you're not going to do it before ten o'clock in the morning, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
and the most you're going to do is for three hours of sawing, or hammering or anything, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
then, you know, I can't see that being a problem. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
-Thank you. -All right? -Yeah, that's great, thank you. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
That's great. I'll put that in writing to you, to say that we've agreed that | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
and I'll say that to your neighbour. All right? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
-Right, thank you very much. -No problem. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
'This is a complaint that should take care of itself, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
'but the noise team and the housing department will keep an eye on it.' | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
From what I saw today, it looks like he was doing some woodwork for his garden, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
so there's more work needed doing now | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
and that should tail off to nothing in the future. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
I think it can be the case that sometimes when a complaint is made to officials like the council, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
it can create a neighbour dispute, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
whereas it is always better to go and talk to your neighbour about the noise problem. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
I'm very happy with the resolution today | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
and I hope that the complainant is very happy with it, too. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
'After this visit, the woodworking tenant agreed to only work for three hours a day. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:13 | |
'Craig confirmed this in writing with him and the complainant | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
'and made them both aware of the law and the case was closed.' | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
'In Belfast, Noise Enforcement Officers Tim and Steve are working the nightshift. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
'They've been dealing with two noisy neighbours. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
'One in a house and the other in a flat. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
'In order to take action, they have to witness nuisance noise first-hand | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
'and so far they haven't heard anything that deserves more than a quiet word. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
'It's now midnight and they've had a call to say the music's back on loud | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
'at the house they visited earlier.' | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
We're heading back to the complaint we were at earlier on. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
We gave a verbal warning at approximately half-nine, I think. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
It was a young girl. She turned the music down and closed the windows when we were there earlier on, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
but I'm not sure that the message had got through. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
Cos we've had... The same complainant's phoned back to say the music's back on | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
and it's causing a disturbance, so we'll go back out and, if it is on, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
she's going to get a warning notice that threatens a £100 spot fine. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
'As the lads are heading back to the first party, another call comes in.' | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
-PHONE RINGS -Belfast City Council Noise Service. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
'It's another complaint about loud noise coming from the flat. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
'No surprises there, then. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
'Tim and Steve will be heading back to the flat they visited earlier, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
'but first they have to deal with the complaint they were originally called to around 9:30. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
'As they arrive it's all quiet, and there's a reason for that.' | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
We phoned for that one, but she's, literally five minutes ago, just been lifted. | 0:31:54 | 0:32:00 | |
'The woman they spoke to earlier has apparently been arrested by the police, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
'and according to one of the neighbours, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
'loud noise has been an ongoing issue for the people living near her.' | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
-Has the noise disturbed you on a regular basis? -Every night. Every single night. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
-What type of noise is it? -Screaming, shouting, music. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
You don't mind it during the day, we all like to have a party, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
but, no. It's just constant. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
It's every single night of the week. Which is not fair... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
on the whole of the street. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
'Whatever the reason for her being arrested, there's nothing more Tim and Steve can do here.' | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
We've arrived in the street, the property's actually silent. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
We've spoke to one of the complainants and they've told us | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
that about 20 minutes before we arrived, the police had arrested the occupant of the property | 0:32:46 | 0:32:52 | |
and taken her away, and since then the property's been quiet. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
So there's nothing further we can do tonight. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
'That's not the case at the second party, where more fed-up neighbours | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
'have called to complain about a noisy birthday bash. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
'If the lads witness nuisance noise, they can serve the party holder with a warning notice. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
'This means they have a legal requirement to quieten down. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
'If they don't, they could be hit with a £100 fine. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
'They make sure they're not seen arriving, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
'but when they get to one of the neighbours' flats to see if there's a nuisance being caused, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
'it's all gone quiet.' | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
In order to serve the warning notice, we'd have to witness loud noise again coming from the party. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
At the minute it's quietened down. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
Your options are we can hang around for a while and if it goes up, we can do something. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
But unless we witness a noise level that we can enforce, we have to be impartial. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Plus, you can't go and say turn the music down when there's no music on. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
Difficult, you know. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
I appreciate that it might come back on in a couple of minutes. Maybe that's them leaving. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
'This case has been a bit like the hokey cokey for Tim and Steve. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
'They've been in, out, in, out. But they're determined to see it out. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
'They decide to wait to see if the music comes back on. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
'Their patience pays off.' | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
That OK, Tim? | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
Be OK if it was in the bedroom. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
'Tim writes out a formal written notice.' | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Hopefully the notice will have the desired effect. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
And bring it to an end. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
'And they head off to talk to the noise maker.' | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
We've had two other complaints from two other flats, all right? | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
You're going to have to knock the tunes on the head. All right? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Well, it's annoying three different apartments. That's far too loud, man. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
'The birthday boy says he didn't complain about people making a noise last night.' | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
What we can do is action complaints we're getting. It's far too loud. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
What I'd advise you to do is turn the music off, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
because you don't seem to be able to turn it down. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Cos we've asked you to turn it down and you haven't turned it down. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
I don't want you to get fined on your birthday, mate. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
If we get any more complaints, you're getting fined on your birthday. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
This is a written warning saying I've been here. If you don't take it, I'll just post it. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
BLEEP. BLEEP. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
'He won't take the notice and goes to get a friend to talk to Tim and Steve. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
'But with so many people being kept awake because of the noise, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
'Tim is in no mood to compromise.' | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
He came into the hallway with three or four mates behind him. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
But then when one mate came out, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
they closed the door on the other guys. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
It seems he'd went to get a more sober friend | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
so I could explain to him what was actually happening. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
It's the guy's birthday. I understand he's having a party | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
and you don't want to fine someone on their birthday, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
but if they don't take your advice then they're going to get fined, even though it is their birthday. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
I've tried to talk him out as much as possible. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
The notice has been served. If we come back tonight, he's getting a fine. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
'It's been a tricky case, but the written warning did the trick. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
'There were no further complaints about the party | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
'and no further action was necessary.' | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
'In Westminster, Noise Enforcement Officer Mike Peters is on a proactive busker patrol. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:20 | |
'He's in Trafalgar Square, and he's got his eyes and ears on a soloist | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
'who the council's noise squad have spoken to in the past.' | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
REGGAE MUSIC | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
'In order to take action, noise enforcement officers have to witness nuisance noise first-hand. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:42 | |
'But the noise doesn't need to have been complained about.' | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
The council can serve a notice on people where they consider that there's likely to be a nuisance, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:51 | |
and bearing in mind that this chap is about 30, 40 yards away | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
from the National Portrait Gallery and he's got an amplifier and it's quite loud, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
then I think it could well be likely to be a nuisance. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:07 | |
So we'll take it from there and we'll serve him the notice. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
'Mike and his colleagues can take action if they hear something | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
'that they think is loud enough to be a nuisance in the future. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
'It's an attempt to keep the peace and stop people having to complain. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
'The notice, though, doesn't ban the busker from ever playing again.' | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
It's quite pleasant, the music, at the moment. It's a bit of light reggae. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
But I can imagine if I was working there for four, five, six hours, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
it might get a bit boring and repetitive and annoying. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
'Mike goes to talk to the melody maker.' | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
# Three little birds, yeah Pitch by my doorstep... # | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
Hello, mate. Westminster Council. Can I have a word? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
'He's introduced himself, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
'but the musician isn't happy that his set has been interrupted.' | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
What's wrong with you guys? You've told me enough already. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
What have we told you already? Not to play here? | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
You told me you were Westminster Council. So what? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
-Let me tell you why I'm here, then. -Yeah, why are you here? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
You're likely to be causing a nuisance for people working around here. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
No, I'm not. I only arrived about half an hour ago. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
Yeah, but the level of noise is such that you are likely to be a nuisance to people round here. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
You tell me to turn it down, and I'll turn it down. I'm not causing a nuisance. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
We've been here before, we've seen you before. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
So what? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
Well, we're going to take some action this time by serving a notice on you this time. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Why are you going to take up some action on me? For what? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
I only come out twice a week, twice a week and play my music. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Mike is being accompanied by a plain-clothes officer to his right | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
and things are starting to heat up. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
I am not causing no nuisance. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
-Likely is the word, right? -Get your action right. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
You should go and fine all these people that are killing and bombing people instead of stopping me. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
'It's a difficult situation | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
'but Mike has to take into account the people who work nearby | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
'and his instincts about what could be a nuisance to people | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
'have already been proved to be spot on earlier in Piccadilly Circus. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
'He's going to serve a notice.' | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Can I have your name, sir, please? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
'Well, he's going to try.' | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
What for? | 0:39:10 | 0:39:11 | |
-Cos I want to serve this notice on you, a legal notice. -What legal notice? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
Well, the notice says that you are not permitted to cause a nuisance... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
I am not causing no nuisance. Ask the people if I'm causing a nuisance. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
'With members of the public starting to heckle Mike, and the musician clearly upset, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
'things are getting increasingly difficult, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
'but his years of experience have taught him to stay calm.' | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
I am not causing no nuisance. You are a pain in the backside, you are not listening to reasoning. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
Everyone's enjoying the music. What do you mean I'm causing a nuisance? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
-I didn't say you were causing a nuisance at the moment. -You said I'm likely to cause a nuisance. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Look at your face. You're being sarcastic. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
This notice doesn't tell you not to play. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
-It just means to say that you can't make a nuisance, all right? -All right. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
'The musician now understands that he's not being told he can't play at all, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
'just that he can't create a nuisance by playing too loud and too often. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
'He becomes a little more composed.' | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
What this notice will say to you is that you must keep it down in future. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
OK. That's cool. No problem. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
Right. Otherwise, if we get complaints about it | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
and we know that it is a nuisance, then you might be prosecuted. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Listen, this is my first day out this week | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
and if there's been noise during the week, I haven't been here, this is my first day. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
If anyone's been causing a nuisance, it's not me. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
That's why I'm arguing with you, because I haven't been playing all week. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
This is my first day out today. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Well, we've just heard you for five minutes and that's all it takes in Westminster, I'm afraid. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
All right, OK, OK. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
'It's taken a while, but Mike's got his message through.' | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
-If my music is low? -If it's low, then that isn't going to be a problem, is it? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
If we get a complaint from someone, then we have to come here and visit their place, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
and if we hear you, and it's loud enough, then it will be a nuisance. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Fair enough. Yeah, I understand, man, I understand. Fair enough. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Right, there's that for you, then. Thank you very much. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
So how loud can I have my music? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
If you think of where you are, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
then your music's likely to be causing a problem 30 yards away, isn't it? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Inside there? All right. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-With the volume that it was. -So if I lower it down. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
I would say so, but that's up to you, really. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
Yeah, all right. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Right, good, thank you very much. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Yeah, no problem, no problem. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
At least you're letting me play, that's cool, that's cool. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
-All right, I'll keep it down, I'll keep it down. I promise. -Bye-bye. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
'The notice is served. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
'The situation calms down, and the busker asks his audience to move in a bit closer.' | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
I can't play my music too loud for them over there because if I do, I'll get in trouble. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
So if they come a bit more near and listen then they can hear the music. Have to play low, now. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
Well, that was an interesting one. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
I think he saw the logic in the end, but... | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
he was a bit obstreperous to start with. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
But anyway, a lot of people are when they think that something's going to happen to them drastic, on the spot. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:06 | |
But he calmed down a bit. Best of friends, now, we are. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
'I wouldn't hold your breath for a Christmas card, Mike. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
'The notice has been served, though, and so far the Westminster noise squad have had no complaints | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
'about this busker and no further action has been taken against him. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
'It's been a busy shift for the noise squad. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
'We've seen them confront rowdy revellers...' | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
It's far too loud. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
'..deal with a neighbourly dispute...' | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
If it was continuous, day in day out, that would be an issue. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
'..and tackle buskers.' | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
We can take your equipment away. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
-Be a shame, wouldn't it? -Well, it would be a shame for you. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
'There's no let up in the battle against anti-social nuisance noise, though | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
'and plenty more cases still to be dealt with by the Noise Squad.' | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
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