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Welcome to Saints And Scroungers, the show that exposes benefit thieves, cheats and liars. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
But it does also unearth the people that genuinely need help. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
This is the front line in the battle against benefit fraud. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Saints and Scroungers is all about busting benefit thieves who steal millions every year | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
and the crack teams of investigators determined to scupper their devious scams. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
We also shine a light on the saints, people committed to putting money | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
into the pockets of those who deserve it and the people too proud to claim what is rightfully theirs. | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
And coming up on today's programme, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
two scrounging sisters, one stolen identity | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
and enough cash to lord it up in limos. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
Clearly this family had access to money | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
and were not afraid to spend it. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
And saintly intervention for the homeless. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
You don't want to be helped. You don't feel as though you deserve it. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
You know, as an A-list celebrity, I could get quite used to this lifestyle. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
Being chauffeured around in a limousine like this, sipping on the old bubbly. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
But if I was living and working in this country illegally whilst claiming benefits, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:39 | |
I'd be a little bit more discreet. You know, keep my head down, keep a low profile. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
But that's not what two sisters thought. Oh, no. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Meet Ugandan sisters Yudaya and Racheal, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
who lived in the UK for over a decade. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
They passed themselves off as model citizens. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
But in fact, they were living a double life, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
operating under the same stolen identity | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
which they'd taken from an innocent third sister | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
and were using to steal jobs and tens of thousands from the British public. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
And it would be a video camera, bought with their stolen cash, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
that would ultimately lead to their downfall. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
It all began back in 1997, when one of the sisters, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Yudaya Nassolo, visited the UK from Uganda. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
Problem is, she never went home. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Yudaya set about applying for a permanent visa. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
While it was processed, she wasn't legally allowed to work. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
And as she didn't have a penny to her name, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
she was entitled to benefits, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
so she turned to Croydon Council for help. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
We were paying her entire rent, her council tax, utility bills. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
She was provided with food vouchers and a basic amount to spend to live on. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:11 | |
Remember, this was someone who came to the UK as a visitor. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
Now she was living off state handouts. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
But the help didn't end there. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
So also claimed to have a serious illness, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
entitling her to additional support from social services. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Because of this illness that she had, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
she was meant to receive regular care and visits from social workers. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
They had real difficulty getting into that house. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
They called round on a regular basis, but it was very hard to get past the front door. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Social services were getting concerned about Yudaya's welfare. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
But after months and months of trying to get inside the property, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
the social workers finally got lucky. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
At a point in time, when they did gain access to the property, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
what they actually saw was a lifestyle that was way beyond the person we were supporting. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
Now, remember, this was a woman supposedly living in poverty. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
But what the social workers saw was a whole host of luxury goods, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
including a large plasma TV and expensive leather settees. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:30 | |
Social services were immediately suspicious | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
that Yudaya might be supplementing her benefits by working illegally. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
So they contacted Croydon Council's fraud team. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
And David Hogan immediately launched a full-scale investigation. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
We thought, "Yeah, something clearly is wrong with this" | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
and we decided to use some surveillance | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
to try to work out really what she was doing, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
because we weren't entirely sure at this point how she was managing to live above her means. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
Council fraud investigation units have access to crack teams | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
trained in undercover techniques and I've arranged a meeting | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
with the man in charge of the stake out of Yudaya Nassolo. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Andy, you were one of the investigating officers in the case. Tell me about the surveillance. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
It was crucial, cos we had this allegation that she may be working, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-so we needed to have her followed. -What did the investigators find? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
They found her going to two places. One was South Bank University | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
-down at the Elephant and Castle. -Was she studying there? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-Our enquiries found out, yes, she was studying to get a nursing qualification. -Right. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
And she received a bursary from the NHS to do that. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
A bursary is a chunk of money they give you and you don't pay it back. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
That's what I understand, yes. They give it to staff to get trained up | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
and in this case, she received just under £18,000. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-You're joking! -No. -OK. I wasn't expecting it to be that high. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-It's very costly training. -What else was she up to? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
They found her going to a nursing home in Wallington | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
and our enquiries there found that she was working as a care assistant. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
OK, you've got this woman claiming benefits, she's training as a nurse, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
she's getting a government payout for the training, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-she's also working as a care assistant. -Correct. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
-She's certainly not destitute, is she? -No. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Shocking stuff. Yudaya might have been entitled to benefits | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
but she had no legal right to work, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
let alone be claiming an NHS bursary. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
My question is, how on earth was she getting away with it? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
She was using two identities. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
She presented herself to the council to get assistance | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
in the name Yudaya Nassolo. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-Mm-hm. -She was using the identity of a Zam Zam Nagujja to get work | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
and to claim the NHS bursary. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Andy had cracked it. Yudaya was using her real name | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
to claim thousands in benefits | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
and the stolen identity of Zam Zam Nagujja | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
to work and claim the NHS bursary. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Now that we had identified the bursary, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
we realised there were funds being paid by the NHS, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
so we brought in their own fraud unit to work in partnership with us. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
Colin Edwards is the NHS counter-fraud specialist | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
who took up the case. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
I made enquiries with the NHS bursaries department | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
and we did discover that a person by the name of Zam Zam Nagujja | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
was indeed claiming an NHS bursary. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
So Colin and David decided the next step was to pay South Bank University a visit | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
to see if they could unearth any more information about this mysterious Zam Zam. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
We met with the head administrator | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
who was very, very cooperative in providing us with a copy of the student file | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
and we found that the documents held on that file caused some concerns. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
What had caught the investigator's eye was a photocopy of a Ugandan passport | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
in the name Zam Zam Nagujja, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
complete with a Home Office stamp granting leave to remain in the UK. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Investigator Andy Lang may have had intelligence Yudaya was posing as Zam Zam | 0:08:37 | 0:08:43 | |
but the passport on file at the university looked genuine. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
So what was going on? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
David and myself agreed that we would pursue the case | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
and we contacted the immigration service. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
Tina Lyonette works for the UK Border Agency. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
After hearing a little about the case, she agreed to meet. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
The team's first task | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
was to establish once and for all that Zam Zam and Yudaya were one and the same. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
So Colin presented Tina with the passport photo of Zam Zam | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
he'd retrieved from South Bank University. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Having the photograph | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
allowed us to compare our records with the records held with the immigration service | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
and that Tina Lyonette was able to bring with her to our first meeting. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
Snap. The photos were clearly taken years apart, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
but they are categorically the same person, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
which means that Yudaya is posing as Zam Zam | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
and the passport held on the university file must be a fake. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
Now all three agencies were convinced they were dealing with a case of identity theft | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
and that Yudaya Nassolo had somehow obtained a Ugandan passport | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
in the name of Zam Zam. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Between the three of us, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
we felt that there was a strong enough case to pursue further. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
But investigators needed more solid evidence | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
and Andy Lang's surveillance team were still hard at it. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
What else did you uncover that surprised you? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
She was driving around in a car when they followed her to the nursing home, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
-and we did checks on the vehicle. The car was registered to the name Racheal Thorn. -Who was that? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
Andy explains that Racheal Thorn is, in fact, Yudaya's sister | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
and the owner of the car Yudaya is driving around in. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
But there was another shock in store. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
We've since found out that Racheal Thorn was also working in this country | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
under the name Zam Zam Nagujja. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Hold your horses a minute. So we've already got one sister, Yudaya, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
posing as Zam Zam. Now Andy had discovered that her sister, Racheal, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
was also working under the same pseudonym. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-She was also using the false identity. There were two of them using the same identity. -Right. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
The case was expanding in scale. Now the hunt was on for the sister, Racheal. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
If they were going to get to the bottom of this scam, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
they had to find her. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
After a huge trawl through public records, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
investigators tracked down a Zam Zam Nagujja | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
working for a catering department at Sutton Hospital. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
Could this be the sister Racheal or was Yudaya moonlighting here, too? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-THEY CHEER -Coming up, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
the true extent of the sisters' deception is revealed. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
From the scroungers ripping off the system to the people we call our saints, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
those individuals who help put money into the pockets of people in genuine need | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
and the people who are too proud or simply don't know how to claim what is rightfully due to them. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
Most of us take having a roof over our head for granted. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
But for some, living on the streets is a reality. And it's tough. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
A homeless charity in Kent called Porchlight is on a mission. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
The main aim is to get people who are homeless, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
take them out of the situation, find them appropriate accommodation, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
help turn their lives around, because sometimes all they need is | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
that step on the ladder to do so. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
But Neil is all too aware that just putting a roof over someone's head isn't always enough. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
Unfortunately, with homelessness, there's no quick solution. We have to look at the long-term picture. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
Two-month or three-month segments would not be very productive | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and it could create more problems that it helps. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
OK. So at this charity, the focus is on long-term support. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
All well and good, but how does it work exactly? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
First things first, we would find someone, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
identify the fact that they are homeless, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
then we'd try and look for somewhere appropriate for them to stay, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
but also making sure that they're getting the correct benefits. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
The next step is to look at confidence building | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
through organised group activities and voluntary work. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Once they feel comfortable enough to move onto the next step, we look at some kind of employment. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
One couple whose lives have been forever changed by the charity are Carlton and Sue. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
Five years ago, Carlton relocated from Liverpool to Kent to set up home with Sue. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
But she soon realised there was a problem. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Quite soon after we met, I could tell there were things | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
that weren't quite right, in terms of there wasn't a job. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
But then, gradually, I could just recognise about the addictions. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Things like the cans lying around when I'd come back at 3:30 in the afternoon | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
and thinking, "Hold on a minute, that's a bit early" | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
and just the mood swings were quite obvious, as well. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
Carlton finally confessed to Sue he was an alcoholic. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
The situation at home then quickly deteriorated. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
Sometimes it got quite... uncomfortable, quite scary. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
I did become quite fearful. Fearful that if I didn't please him, then he would get angry, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
so it was tiptoeing around, making sure I was doing everything right. And the awful thing was, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
whatever I did, it wasn't right. It's only now I understand that's the disease of alcoholism. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
Carlton's drinking was increasing. So was his aggressive behaviour. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
Sue knew something had to change. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Love really wasn't the be all and end all at that point. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
It was actually about safety. Physical safety, emotional wellbeing, for all three of us. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
So the decision was that we would part company. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
Carlton felt he had no choice but to join the ranks of the homeless, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
and he began sleeping rough in the seaside town of Ramsgate. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Once you found yourself living out there on the street, just how bad did things get? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
It got really bad, you know. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
I had no money. The depression got worse. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
You're on a downward slope. You're thinking, "How did I get here? What am I going to do?" | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
You've got no prospects. You've got no hope. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Many nights, you just drink so much that your body numbs up, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
so you don't feel the cold. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Carlton had reached rock bottom. Then a visit marked the beginning of a new journey. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
I remember, one morning, this gentleman walking over to me with his little rucksack on, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
and I can remember just looking at him and thinking, "Don't come near me. Go away." | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
I didn't know what he wanted or who he was. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
The man was an outreach worker and, undeterred by Carlton's initial rejection of help, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
he continued to visit. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
To have somebody there that took an interest in you | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
and really showed some compassion, it was strange. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
It was very hard to trust that person. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Because they were very determined and kept coming back, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
it broke down a few of my barriers and I started to open up. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
Getting people off the streets is only half the solution when it comes to homelessness. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
In here is where the real hard work starts. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I've come to the hostel that took Carlton in to meet his key worker, Jill Smith. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
-When Carlton came here, how bad were his problems? -Very bad. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
He was in a very bad way. He was extremely depressed, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
he was drinking very heavily | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
as a result of all the things that had been happening to him. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
He had lost his job, he had lost his relationship, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
he had lost the roof over his head. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
He didn't really know which way to turn at that point. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Carlton's key worker arranged for him to get professional help with his addiction | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
and after six months, he was sober. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Next, Carlton started the charity's employability training programme | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
to help prepare him for the workplace. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
I learnt lots of things on presentations, communication, interview techniques, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:25 | |
but the main thing that I got from the course | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
was interaction with other people again | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and it gave me the self-belief that I had something valuable to offer other people. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
And this ability to offer something back to others didn't go unnoticed by the Porchlight team. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
We started looking at a scheme that was starting up within Porchlight | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
where they were taking on trainees to train them in the work | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and he seemed an ideal candidate for it. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
The training in question was to become a youth leader, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
educating children in the issues relating to homelessness. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
The education programme appealed to me, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
going out, speaking to young adults in the schools, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
giving something back, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
hopefully letting the kids learn from my experience. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
So I went for that position and, fortunately, I got it. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
It's really great to see Carlton now, because he's come full circle. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
In the last, perhaps, three or four months, he's just excelled. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
He's exceedingly competent at what he does | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
and he's very clear and concise with the young people we work with and he's got a story to tell. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
A lot of homeless people are crazy. Is that true or false? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
To see people go from that starting point | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
of living in one of our hostels to now working for us and delivering services is really gratifying. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
-How do you feel for what you've achieved with Carlton? -Privileged. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It's a privilege to help people turn their lives around. There's nothing else like it. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
-Do you love your job? -I do. Yeah, I do. I do. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Without the support I got from Porchlight... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
..I would never have been in the position I am now. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
I always thought and believed in him, that one day he would get better, and that day has come now. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
I'm 11 months sober. I've still got issues to face, but now I can face them head on with confidence, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
and a brighter future. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
From the saints back to the scroungers. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Every year in the UK, over a billion pounds is lost to benefit fraud. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
That's enough to pay for 40,000 NHS nurses. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
But those who commit the crime should always be prepared to do the time. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
A massive multi-agency investigation is underway. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
The UK Border Agency, Croydon Council and the NHS | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
are closing in on two scrounging sisters operating | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
under the same stolen identity, Zam Zam Nagujja. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Investigators had already tracked down one sister, Yudaya, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
posing as Zam Zam working illegally as a nurse | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
while claiming £137,000 in benefits. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
With Yudaya firmly fixed on the fraud team's radar, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
they now needed to locate her sister, Racheal, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and they had a very hot lead. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
They'd identified a person working under the name of Zam Zam | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
at a catering company. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
At first, we weren't quite sure if they were the same person, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
so we arranged to go and meet the manager of the catering unit | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
where we posed as two prospective clients. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Sneaky, but I like it. And it paid off. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
By meeting this Zam Zam face to face, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
they were able to confirm this was Yudaya's married sister, Racheal Thorn. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
So here we had two sisters | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
that have come into the UK from Uganda, they were using the same identity, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
the identity of Zam Zam Nagujja, and had used this successfully to get into the system. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
But was Zam Zam Nagujja a real person or a figment of the sisters' imagination? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
The name Zam Zam Nagujja actually is a real person. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
In fact, when we did some checks, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
the real Zam Zam had been at university in Manchester in the '90s. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
And there was another surprise in store. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Because it turns out that Zam Zam Nagujja | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
is related to Yudaya and Racheal. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
In fact, she was a third sister. But an entirely innocent one, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
oblivious that her ID had been stolen and tampered with | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
and was being used by members of her own family to extract money from the UK. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
And boy, oh, boy, as this home video footage shows, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
Yudaya and Racheal knew how to splash the cash. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
After a year of hard graft pooling information, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
investigators were ready to act. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
It's time to take this pair of scrounging sisters down. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
And in 2008, Yudaya and Racheal were placed under arrest. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:36 | |
It was very important that we actually put a stop to this once and for all. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
With the sisters under lock and key, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
investigators were given the green light to search Yudaya's property. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
We found evidence of identity documents, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
bank accounts in the name Zam Zam Nagujja, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
and, interestingly, numerous money transfers back to Kampala. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
-Are we talking about large sums? -They were significant sums of money. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
I can't give you the actual values off the top of my head, but it was considerable amounts, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
and we believe, because the search also found pictures of the family | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
standing in newly built properties over in Kampala, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
so we think she was sending money home to fund those properties. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
If that's right, us as taxpayers have bought her and her family | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
-a house in Uganda. -Effectively, yes. -That's got to hurt. It hurts me. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
It hurts us, as well. That's why we investigate these and hope that we can catch these people. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
The team didn't only find cash transfers to Uganda. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
They found forged documents and bank account details | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
showing significant savings. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
The other thing we found that was quite interesting | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
was some home videos. They showed the lifestyle they were living. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
There was one video where a stretch limousine had been hired. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
The video showed them inside the stretch limousine | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
opening champagne, laughing. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
They were very happy with the circumstances they were in. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
There is pictures of them having extravagant Christmas presents. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Clearly, this family had access to money | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and were not afraid to spend it. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
And this, of course, was in clear contrast | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
to how she presented to the council. This was, after all, somebody who | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
was meant to be living on food stamps, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
who received a cash allowance just to take care of her bare subsistence. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
And, clearly, the two just didn't align. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
After two years and the combined efforts of three agencies, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
investigators now had both sisters under arrest | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
and all the evidence they needed to put this scrounging pair | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
in front of a judge. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
So, basically, you had them bang to rights, two people working, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
-both using false identities in this country. -That's correct. -Filtering money out. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
Yep. Stealing off the public purse. It was a long investigation, but worth it. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
In 2009, the sisters were summoned to court to face the prosecution. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Racheal Thorn received numerous charges, including entering the UK by deception, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
obtaining wages by deception and using a false identity. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Despite the weight of evidence against her, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Racheal pleaded not guilty. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
But on 6th July, 2009, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
a jury found her guilty and she was sentenced to 21 months behind bars, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
to be followed by immediate deportation. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Her sister, Yudaya, was in even bigger trouble. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
She faced more charges, including possession of false documents, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
obtaining advantage by deception, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
making false representations | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
and three charges of conspiring to enter the UK illegally. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Knowing her card was well and truly marked, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Yudaya pleaded guilty and was subsequently thrown into jail for three years, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
after which she, too, will be on a one-way trip back to Uganda. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
This was a very big case for us here in Croydon. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
It spanned a long time, it was high value, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
so we're extremely pleased with the outcome | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and it shows you how, when agencies get together, how much more effective we can be. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
Well, I don't think that pair of scrounging sisters | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
are going to be sipping champagne for quite some time now. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Unless they serve it in jail, which I doubt very much. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Now, where shall I go to lunch? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Oysters at The Ivy, I think. Yeah. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Oi! | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
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