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The thing that makes this country really great is that we will give money to people who really need it.

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But the problem with that is that wherever you have money, there'll be people trying to steal it.

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Welcome to the world of Saints And Scroungers.

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Saints And Scroungers puts the spotlight

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on the benefit thieves who ruthlessly steal millions of pounds

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every year from the British taxpayer.

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And it highlights the plight of men and women who are too proud

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or simply don't know how to claim the benefits they deserve.

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The saints provide help, and the scroungers?

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They get tracked down by the fraud investigators who put an end to their devious scams.

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And coming up on today's programme...

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Time runs out for a crafty couple who scrounged £130,000 from the state.

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They weren't living on the breadline as they claimed to be.

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And a teenager desperate to get back to school is given a saintly helping hand.

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It's important to get Josh back into school,

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and the one thing that's really stopping him is the physical barrier.

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But first today, meet the Martins, a married couple from Essex.

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They're under suspicion for the biggest benefit fraud in Epping Council's entire history,

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ripping the taxpayer off to the tune of £130,000.

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Epping Forest District Council in Essex covers a large area, from the urban streets of northeast London

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to the villages of Hertfordshire.

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It's a well-heeled part of the country.

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But that doesn't stop benefit cheats abusing the system.

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Unfortunately some people are very greedy,

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and despite being in relatively wealthy positions,

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they'll want to try and get a little bit more of something for nothing.

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The investigations team will normally take on around 400 cases a year.

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The annual level of overpayments arising from fraud or error

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on claimants' behalf runs to about half a million pounds a year.

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Like a lot of people, I'm a bit of a workaholic.

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But I always try and keep my home and work life separate.

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But if you are a benefit fraud investigator, you have always got

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to be on duty because you never know when a cheat is going to pop up.

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And if it's your job to catch them, you've always got to be on guard, no matter what you're doing.

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An investigation into the Martins began when an off-duty fraud officer

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was house hunting and went to view a property in Epping.

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As fraud cases are very sensitive, this manager needs to remain anonymous.

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They had a look around the house as you normally would do. They asked a few questions

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and the estate agents said that the vendors were Bob and Sam Martin,

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who were on holiday in America, and they owned several other properties.

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When he returned to work, he happened to mention the house to his colleagues.

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The officer was talking about the viewing when somebody realised

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they'd visited Mr and Mrs Martin and they were on housing benefit.

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That rang alarm bells.

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If Mr and Mrs Martin did own the house, they shouldn't be claiming housing benefit.

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So the fraud team checked back through the council's housing records.

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Over a course of two years, they'd had three visits to clarify

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and confirm their circumstances, and on each occasion they'd said they were renting privately.

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They confirmed that the landlord was Portuguese

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and gave an address in Portugal for him.

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The couple were claiming housing benefit to cover

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their £1,000 a month rent, and council tax benefit, too.

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Not only that, but they said they were unemployed and were receiving income support as well.

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We had visited the Martins before and were suspicious of their claim

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because of the lifestyle they led.

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The house was well furnished and it didn't seem plausible.

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The investigation team decide to dig a little deeper.

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The council undertook a land registry search, and it revealed that the owner was a Portuguese guy.

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We then applied for the mortgage of the property.

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We had the claim form for Mr Martin and a mortgage application

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for the landlord of the property, and to us, the handwriting looked the same.

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So what was going on?

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This was confusing to say the least.

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The Martins seemed to be selling a property, yet claiming

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to the council it was owned by a Portuguese landlord.

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This just didn't add up.

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You could argue that the Portuguese landlord completed the mortgage form and the benefit application form.

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But you could also argue that Mr Martin could've done both, so the case had to be looked into further.

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The investigators suspected the Martins were the owners, but they couldn't prove it for sure.

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So they decided to check the estate agents' claim that the couple owned other properties, too.

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They ran credit checks and they discovered something very interesting about Samantha Martin.

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We did a credit search on Samantha Martin, and it highlighted

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that she had a mortgage at Chivers Road in Chingford.

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The mortgage was for £80,000 but the purchase price was 130,000.

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Samantha Martin had said on this application that the remainder was to come from personal funds.

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This is significant because it clearly shows that the Martins had at least £50,000 in the bank

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whilst receiving benefit but they'd told us that they had no money.

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If you have savings of over £16,000, you are not entitled to claim housing benefit.

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So it seemed the Martins had not been telling the council the truth.

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The investigators also made another interesting discovery -

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the Martins had both been claiming income support.

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But it appeared that Samantha Martin was not long-term unemployed.

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The mortgage application gave her occupation as interior designer,

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earning 40,000 plus a year.

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So, far from struggling to pay the rent, the Martins were doing quite nice,

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thank you very much. And they were about to become even richer.

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A year after purchasing the Chingford property, Mrs Martin

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sold the property for £230,000,

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making a £100,000 profit on top of the £50,000 that she put down initially.

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This couple clearly had something to hide,

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claiming to be long-term unemployed, with no income at all

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yet all along buying and selling property.

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And they weren't the only members of the family with secrets.

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Later in the programme, it looks like Samantha Martin's sister was also cheating the system.

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She claimed to live alone with her children, but in fact she had a husband living with her.

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From scroungers stealing from the benefit system - and the taxpayer - to the people we call our saints,

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individuals and organisations up and down the country

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that go out of their way to help people in genuine need.

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Few of us can envisage what it must be like to find out that you'll have

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to spend the rest of your life living with a crippling illness.

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But imagine for just one moment what it must be like getting news like that when you're just 14 years old.

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Josh Lowe lives in Stoke on Trent with his mum Hannah and dad Steve.

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His health problems started as soon as he was born.

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It became apparent when he was born that there was...

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something different, we'd say,

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about his feet.

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Basically they were tucked in, facing the wrong way.

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You sort of feel like it was partially your fault.

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Is it something that me and his mum did wrong?

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All sorts of different thoughts go through your mind,

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until an expert explains that there are other children in the world that are born with the same problem.

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At just nine months old, Josh had his first operation, and spent two years in a cast.

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Throughout his childhood, he has needed orthopaedic shoes and constant physio.

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But he learned to live with his condition.

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Then, just before his 11th birthday, Josh suffered a major setback.

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He was actually playing football, Josh was, with his grandad.

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It was basically just stopping,

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he went to kick the ball, and as he stopped, his right knee came out.

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Your whole body can't move.

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It's just when your knee comes out,

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it's probably your body goes into shock and you just, you can't move. It's very painful.

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Agonisingly, it happened another four times,

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and Josh underwent two years of tests and scans

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before he was diagnosed with a lifelong condition - chronic patella instability.

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His kneecap is unable to sit in its socket for long periods of time, and it can dislocate.

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-The slightest knock or tap or fall...

-How he moves.

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Yeah, how he walks. If he stops a bit quick when he turns,

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that can cause it to come out.

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In an attempt to fix his knee problem,

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Josh underwent a major operation.

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They had to break my bone in two places..

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..to actually turn my kneecap inwards, to stop it jumping out.

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Since his surgery six months ago, Josh has been forced to stay off school.

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He's had to cope with constant pain and needs crutches and a wheelchair just to get around.

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He is weak.

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His right foot does come in even more,

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now they've realigned his leg where they've operated on him.

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And, you know, getting about is a problem.

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Difficult for him, yeah.

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Josh had lost all his teenage independence and relied on his parents round the clock.

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The pressure took its toll on mum Hannah.

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The stress was just too much for me.

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I had to go to see me GP and be under the, you know,

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relevant professionals to take care of me, which they have done.

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With her failing health and Josh's needs, Hannah had to give up her job.

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And with dad Steve out of work due to ill health,

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the family were struggling to make ends meet.

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But just when things had hit rock bottom for the Lowes, Josh's school

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suggested they get in touch with a local charity called Well Children.

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Serena Elkington is one of their family liaison officers.

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-Hello, you all right?

-Yes, come in.

-Shoes off.

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'We're out to see Josh, who recently had an operation on his knees which was quite complex.

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'Went to meet Hannah and Steve, who were lovely.'

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How is Josh at the moment?

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'Josh is a bit depressed, to be honest.'

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He plays on his PlayStation. He really wants to get out there.

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He's a really fun-loving kid and he just wants to get on, really,

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I suppose, and do the things that he did before his operation.

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We look at ourselves as a safety net for families, getting things that they actually really do need.

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It costs around three times more to care for a disabled child than a child without a disability.

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So if we can somehow help them get that funding or whatever,

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then you know, it's really beneficial for them.

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Serena immediately got to work looking at ways she could improve life for Josh and his family.

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Serena does come to the house on a regular basis,

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and she will discuss things like benefits and stuff

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that we might not be claiming for Joshua,

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or if she's heard of any different schemes, or something that she thinks Joshua might be able to access,

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she'll bring all the leaflets with her,

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paperwork and anything like that.

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She'll help us to fill the forms in.

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She's just been a great help.

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She's brought the financial side of things to us that we didn't know were there.

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Serena has managed to find extra cash for the family through the Carer's Premium.

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It's meant Josh can start to regain some of his teenage independence on outings

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with charity volunteer Amanda.

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It just takes the weight off our minds, knowing that he's in safe hands,

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he's enjoying what he wants to do, and it's just nice to know that

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there's an organisation out there like that that can help.

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You all right, mate?

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But while his social life might be improving, there's a much bigger challenge - Josh's education.

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He's missed out on so much school as it is, this year.

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To miss out on any more will probably hold him back,

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and we don't want him to be held back because of his condition.

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At this crucial time in his education,

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Josh has been forced to stay at home and had to rely on visits from a home tutor.

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There's a home tutor that comes around it could be once a fortnight sometimes, it depends,

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and she goes into the school, picks the work up and brings it back home to me,

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so I can just sit in the kitchen and just do the work.

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It's OK for short-term basis,

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but you need to get back into school,

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because obviously it's not the same as having someone in front of you, like a teacher,

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telling you what to do.

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But with the stairs and corridors at school,

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Josh now needs a full-time carer to get from class to class safely.

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It's something his family simply can't afford.

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It's important to get Josh back into school, and the one thing that's really stopping him is obviously

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the physical barriers and physical support he needs being at school,

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so I'm looking at ways to get money off the Government to provide that care.

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Things are looking up for Josh.

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After months of toing and froing, he finally gets some life-changing news.

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The school have agreed to pay for a carer to help him get to his classes.

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We've been in lots of different meetings and what's happened is the funding's come from the school.

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So Josh can have a carer to get back to learning,

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which he's excited about. He's really bright and missed out on a lot.

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This is what we've hoped for and fought for.

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It's actually nice to see him back with his school stuff on, back to school, meeting his friends,

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getting an education that he needs to progress with his life and do the job he wants when he leaves school.

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Josh's school have been really good and felt really supported.

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So with us all working together, it's meant we can confidently get Josh

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back into school as quick as possible but the paramount thing was his safety.

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Josh going back to school is absolutely wonderful.

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It's given me total peace of mind, knowing I can take him into school

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and I can come home and not have to worry because he's in safe hands.

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-Hello there! Welcome back!

-Yeah.

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-A while.

-Hiya. What's it feel like?

-Weird.

-I think he's really nervous.

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-It feels weird for everybody. Are you glad to be back?

-Mmm.

-Good. We're glad to have you back.

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Russell Hall, a teaching assistant at the school,

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will now make sure Josh gets from class to class safely.

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Whenever Josh is in school, I'll be with him, help him around, make sure he gets to lessons.

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When he's got hospital appointments and things like that,

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I'll still go into the lessons, the core lessons,

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English, maths, science, get the work, make any notes and take them back to Josh.

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'It does feel good just to get back to school,

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'because you get rid of the boredom and you see your friends again,'

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which cheers you up.

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To begin with, Josh will be part-time so he can get used to school more gradually.

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Yeah, I do feel a lot more safer, and a lot more secure,

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and it just makes a big difference.

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He's going to have the next two years full of happiness, really,

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even though he's going to have a awful lot of time in and out of hospital and everything,

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but the plus side is we've got everything

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in place for his education, and it's going to give him

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the start he needs and he really does deserve in life.

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He's shown a inner courage, an inner strength

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to come back into school, as he has done today.

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I see no reason why in 2012 he shouldn't collect

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a good batch of GCSEs, going onto college and going onto university.

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I feel fantastic for helping Josh out.

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It made all the hard work and letters and phone calls so worthwhile.

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'I think now I can concentrate more on my work, and get better grades.'

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I would say it's a new start.

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Josh has been dealt some pretty tough cards, but thanks to the help

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and support of people like Serena, he's now going to get something that every kid deserves.

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An education, and a childhood.

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Now, from the saints who help those in real need, to the people who steal from the system.

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Our scroungers in Essex.

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Bob and Samantha Martin were under investigation

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for swindling over £130,000 in benefits,

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and after a lucky coincidence,

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the council's fraud team were building a strong case against them.

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The Martins painted this picture of living on the breadline and struggling to pay the rent.

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But Epping Forest Council's investigators soon found this was far from the truth.

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And incredibly, it turns out another member of the family was about to catch their attention as well.

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At the same time as investigating the Martins,

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we investigated somebody called Francesca Russell.

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This was Samantha Martin's sister.

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Francesca lived just down the road from Bob and Samantha Martin

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in Buckhurst Hill, Essex.

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She was claiming housing and council tax benefit

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from Epping Forest District Council.

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She claimed to live alone with her children in a property.

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This is the housing benefit application form for Francesca Russell.

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Where she clearly neglects to put a partner down on her form,

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and indeed she ticks "no"

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to the question "Do you have a partner who normally lives with you?"

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Accompanying the form was a tenancy agreement that only showed Francesca Russell as the tenant.

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If she had a partner that was working,

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this would affect her benefit entitlement,

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either reducing it or totally knocking her out of benefit.

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But just like her sister Samantha,

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the council soon discovered things were not how they appeared.

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Officers obtained the original tenancy agreement from the same landlord,

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detailing tenants as Mr Karl Russell

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and Mrs Francesca Russell of the same address.

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So the council were looking at a false document,

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the tenancy agreement, but also a failure to declare that Mrs Russell

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had her husband living with her.

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So Francesca was also cheating the taxpayer.

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Meanwhile, her sister Samantha and brother-in-law Bob continued to claim benefit.

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In 2006, the house in Allnutts Road, where they claimed to be renting, was sold.

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The couple moved to another house in Epping, apparently owned by the same Portuguese landlord.

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They moved to a different rented house and continued to claim housing benefit

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and council tax benefit, as well as income support at that property.

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It did seem strange that the Martins moved from one property to another, within Epping,

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and had the same landlord, and we thought, well, who is this landlord?

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He lives in Portugal, but we've never seen him.

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Whether they really were tenants with a Portuguese landlord, in the end it didn't matter.

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The council already had enough financial evidence to make a case.

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We thought we had enough to get Mr and Mrs Martin arrested.

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The police could then search the property for further evidence,

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and indeed, that happened in August 2007.

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-You've got the wrong person!

-'I was there at the search.

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'It was a very plush property, they were doing well for themselves.

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'They weren't living on the breadline as they claimed to be.'

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And they were far from amateurs. The Martins were highly organised scroungers.

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Normally you find paperwork everywhere, all in drawers,

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but the Martins had it in folders in a cabinet.

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Folders that were marked benefits, mortgages, bank accounts, building society accounts.

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Just as the fraud team had hoped, the search turned up even more

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financial evidence against the Martins.

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When we found the bank statements, we realised they hadn't been declared to us.

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We approached the banks and obtained statements back to 2003,

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when Mr and Mrs Martin initially claimed income support and housing benefit.

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This is a Halifax bank statement that the council obtained,

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following Mr and Mrs Martin's arrest.

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It shows that on 1st February 2005, £44,000 was deposited into that account.

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In July, £79,460 was deposited.

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Over a matter of months, the Martins had

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over £120,000 go through their account.

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This meant they had more money than they had declared.

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Further investigations into the Martin's finances

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revealed that on 14th April 2003,

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just after their claim for housing benefit,

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£98,190 was deposited into Mr Martin's Bank of Ireland account.

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This meant that from pretty much the outset of their claim,

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they wouldn't have been entitled to housing benefit.

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We had proof that they were committing offences right back to 2003.

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That's just pretty disgusting really, you know, this was pure greed.

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In fact, between 2003 and 2007,

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a staggering £430,000 had gone through their accounts.

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And all the time, these people were illegally claiming taxpayers' money,

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in the form of housing and council tax benefits and income support.

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Anyone who wants to claim housing benefit could only claim

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if they had less than £16,000 in their bank at any one time.

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On numerous occasions, the Martins had well in excess of that.

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It's an offence not to declare that you have capital that exceeds £16,000.

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It was time for the Martins to face some serious questions.

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Mr Martin was very calm when he was arrested.

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Mrs Martin was really upset, and, you know, very tearful.

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He was interviewed for over an hour, and he didn't crack.

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He made no comment at every question.

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Samantha Martin declined to be interviewed, due to ill health,

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but the council had enough evidence to go court.

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And the game was up for Samantha Martin's sister Francesca too.

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Over just four months, she had falsely claimed £7,000 in benefits.

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The couple were arrested at their property in Buckhurst Hill.

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The police searched the property and established that her husband had been living with her.

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Francesca, who turned up at Chelmsford Crown Court to support her sister,

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was found guilty of benefit fraud.

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She was ordered to do 150 hours of unpaid work,

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and was given an eight-month prison sentence, suspended for two years.

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No charges were brought against her husband.

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The Martins were charged with dishonestly claiming benefit

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and concealing their true financial circumstances,

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including their ownership of property.

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The council also brought the prosecution for income support fraud

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on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions.

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In Mrs Martin's defence, it was argued Mr Martin had posed as his wife,

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bought the property in Chingford and sold it without her knowledge.

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She admitted she was aware of the bank accounts,

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but claimed she didn't know that her husband had bought a property,

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and then sold it, with the proceeds going through her account.

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In the end, she admitted they were both involved

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and they pleaded guilty to all charges put to them.

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Samantha Martin was given a 12-month suspended sentence,

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and ordered to do 150 hours of unpaid work.

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It was revealed that Bob Martin had a previous conviction for fraud.

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He was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison.

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Following this investigation, it was established

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that the Martins were overpaid £130,000 housing benefit,

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council tax benefit and income support.

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That's the biggest ever fraud found in Epping Forest District Council's history.

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Robert Martin got a longer sentence because he was the main architect of the fraud.

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It has been very pleasing to bring both those prosecutions to successful conclusion.

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What we have to hope is that anybody out there

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who is currently committing a fraud sees what has happened,

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and that is a significant deterrent.

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Mistakes, stupidity or just plain greed.

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It doesn't matter how clever cheats think they are,

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sooner or later they will get caught.

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