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The thing that makes this country really great is that we will give money to people who really need it. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
But the problem with that is that wherever you have money, there'll be people trying to steal it. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
Welcome to the world of Saints And Scroungers. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Saints And Scroungers puts the spotlight | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
on the benefit thieves who ruthlessly steal millions of pounds | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
every year from the British taxpayer. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
And it highlights the plight of men and women who are too proud | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
or simply don't know how to claim the benefits they deserve. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
The saints provide help, and the scroungers? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
They get tracked down by the fraud investigators who put an end to their devious scams. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
And coming up on today's programme... | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Time runs out for a crafty couple who scrounged £130,000 from the state. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:09 | |
They weren't living on the breadline as they claimed to be. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
And a teenager desperate to get back to school is given a saintly helping hand. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
It's important to get Josh back into school, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
and the one thing that's really stopping him is the physical barrier. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
But first today, meet the Martins, a married couple from Essex. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
They're under suspicion for the biggest benefit fraud in Epping Council's entire history, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
ripping the taxpayer off to the tune of £130,000. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
Epping Forest District Council in Essex covers a large area, from the urban streets of northeast London | 0:01:47 | 0:01:54 | |
to the villages of Hertfordshire. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
It's a well-heeled part of the country. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
But that doesn't stop benefit cheats abusing the system. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
Unfortunately some people are very greedy, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
and despite being in relatively wealthy positions, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
they'll want to try and get a little bit more of something for nothing. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
The investigations team will normally take on around 400 cases a year. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
The annual level of overpayments arising from fraud or error | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
on claimants' behalf runs to about half a million pounds a year. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
Like a lot of people, I'm a bit of a workaholic. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
But I always try and keep my home and work life separate. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
But if you are a benefit fraud investigator, you have always got | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
to be on duty because you never know when a cheat is going to pop up. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
And if it's your job to catch them, you've always got to be on guard, no matter what you're doing. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
An investigation into the Martins began when an off-duty fraud officer | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
was house hunting and went to view a property in Epping. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
As fraud cases are very sensitive, this manager needs to remain anonymous. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
They had a look around the house as you normally would do. They asked a few questions | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
and the estate agents said that the vendors were Bob and Sam Martin, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
who were on holiday in America, and they owned several other properties. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
When he returned to work, he happened to mention the house to his colleagues. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:27 | |
The officer was talking about the viewing when somebody realised | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
they'd visited Mr and Mrs Martin and they were on housing benefit. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
That rang alarm bells. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
If Mr and Mrs Martin did own the house, they shouldn't be claiming housing benefit. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
So the fraud team checked back through the council's housing records. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
Over a course of two years, they'd had three visits to clarify | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
and confirm their circumstances, and on each occasion they'd said they were renting privately. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
They confirmed that the landlord was Portuguese | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
and gave an address in Portugal for him. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
The couple were claiming housing benefit to cover | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
their £1,000 a month rent, and council tax benefit, too. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Not only that, but they said they were unemployed and were receiving income support as well. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
We had visited the Martins before and were suspicious of their claim | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
because of the lifestyle they led. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
The house was well furnished and it didn't seem plausible. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
The investigation team decide to dig a little deeper. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
The council undertook a land registry search, and it revealed that the owner was a Portuguese guy. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
We then applied for the mortgage of the property. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
We had the claim form for Mr Martin and a mortgage application | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
for the landlord of the property, and to us, the handwriting looked the same. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
So what was going on? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
This was confusing to say the least. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
The Martins seemed to be selling a property, yet claiming | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
to the council it was owned by a Portuguese landlord. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
This just didn't add up. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
You could argue that the Portuguese landlord completed the mortgage form and the benefit application form. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:07 | |
But you could also argue that Mr Martin could've done both, so the case had to be looked into further. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
The investigators suspected the Martins were the owners, but they couldn't prove it for sure. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:23 | |
So they decided to check the estate agents' claim that the couple owned other properties, too. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:29 | |
They ran credit checks and they discovered something very interesting about Samantha Martin. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:35 | |
We did a credit search on Samantha Martin, and it highlighted | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
that she had a mortgage at Chivers Road in Chingford. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
The mortgage was for £80,000 but the purchase price was 130,000. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:50 | |
Samantha Martin had said on this application that the remainder was to come from personal funds. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:57 | |
This is significant because it clearly shows that the Martins had at least £50,000 in the bank | 0:05:57 | 0:06:04 | |
whilst receiving benefit but they'd told us that they had no money. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
If you have savings of over £16,000, you are not entitled to claim housing benefit. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
So it seemed the Martins had not been telling the council the truth. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
The investigators also made another interesting discovery - | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
the Martins had both been claiming income support. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
But it appeared that Samantha Martin was not long-term unemployed. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
The mortgage application gave her occupation as interior designer, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
earning 40,000 plus a year. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
So, far from struggling to pay the rent, the Martins were doing quite nice, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
thank you very much. And they were about to become even richer. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
A year after purchasing the Chingford property, Mrs Martin | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
sold the property for £230,000, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
making a £100,000 profit on top of the £50,000 that she put down initially. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
This couple clearly had something to hide, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
claiming to be long-term unemployed, with no income at all | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
yet all along buying and selling property. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
And they weren't the only members of the family with secrets. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Later in the programme, it looks like Samantha Martin's sister was also cheating the system. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:25 | |
She claimed to live alone with her children, but in fact she had a husband living with her. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
From scroungers stealing from the benefit system - and the taxpayer - to the people we call our saints, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:41 | |
individuals and organisations up and down the country | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
that go out of their way to help people in genuine need. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
Few of us can envisage what it must be like to find out that you'll have | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
to spend the rest of your life living with a crippling illness. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
But imagine for just one moment what it must be like getting news like that when you're just 14 years old. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:06 | |
Josh Lowe lives in Stoke on Trent with his mum Hannah and dad Steve. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
His health problems started as soon as he was born. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
It became apparent when he was born that there was... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
something different, we'd say, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
about his feet. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
Basically they were tucked in, facing the wrong way. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
You sort of feel like it was partially your fault. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Is it something that me and his mum did wrong? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
All sorts of different thoughts go through your mind, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
until an expert explains that there are other children in the world that are born with the same problem. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
At just nine months old, Josh had his first operation, and spent two years in a cast. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Throughout his childhood, he has needed orthopaedic shoes and constant physio. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
But he learned to live with his condition. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Then, just before his 11th birthday, Josh suffered a major setback. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
He was actually playing football, Josh was, with his grandad. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
It was basically just stopping, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
he went to kick the ball, and as he stopped, his right knee came out. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
Your whole body can't move. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
It's just when your knee comes out, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
it's probably your body goes into shock and you just, you can't move. It's very painful. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
Agonisingly, it happened another four times, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and Josh underwent two years of tests and scans | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
before he was diagnosed with a lifelong condition - chronic patella instability. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
His kneecap is unable to sit in its socket for long periods of time, and it can dislocate. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
-The slightest knock or tap or fall... -How he moves. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
Yeah, how he walks. If he stops a bit quick when he turns, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
that can cause it to come out. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
In an attempt to fix his knee problem, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Josh underwent a major operation. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
They had to break my bone in two places.. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
..to actually turn my kneecap inwards, to stop it jumping out. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:19 | |
Since his surgery six months ago, Josh has been forced to stay off school. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
He's had to cope with constant pain and needs crutches and a wheelchair just to get around. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
He is weak. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
His right foot does come in even more, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
now they've realigned his leg where they've operated on him. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
And, you know, getting about is a problem. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Difficult for him, yeah. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Josh had lost all his teenage independence and relied on his parents round the clock. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
The pressure took its toll on mum Hannah. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
The stress was just too much for me. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
I had to go to see me GP and be under the, you know, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
relevant professionals to take care of me, which they have done. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
With her failing health and Josh's needs, Hannah had to give up her job. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
And with dad Steve out of work due to ill health, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
the family were struggling to make ends meet. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
But just when things had hit rock bottom for the Lowes, Josh's school | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
suggested they get in touch with a local charity called Well Children. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
Serena Elkington is one of their family liaison officers. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
-Hello, you all right? -Yes, come in. -Shoes off. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
'We're out to see Josh, who recently had an operation on his knees which was quite complex. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:40 | |
'Went to meet Hannah and Steve, who were lovely.' | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
How is Josh at the moment? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
'Josh is a bit depressed, to be honest.' | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
He plays on his PlayStation. He really wants to get out there. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
He's a really fun-loving kid and he just wants to get on, really, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
I suppose, and do the things that he did before his operation. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
We look at ourselves as a safety net for families, getting things that they actually really do need. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
It costs around three times more to care for a disabled child than a child without a disability. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
So if we can somehow help them get that funding or whatever, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
then you know, it's really beneficial for them. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Serena immediately got to work looking at ways she could improve life for Josh and his family. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
Serena does come to the house on a regular basis, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
and she will discuss things like benefits and stuff | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
that we might not be claiming for Joshua, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
or if she's heard of any different schemes, or something that she thinks Joshua might be able to access, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
she'll bring all the leaflets with her, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
paperwork and anything like that. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
She'll help us to fill the forms in. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
She's just been a great help. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
She's brought the financial side of things to us that we didn't know were there. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
Serena has managed to find extra cash for the family through the Carer's Premium. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
It's meant Josh can start to regain some of his teenage independence on outings | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
with charity volunteer Amanda. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
It just takes the weight off our minds, knowing that he's in safe hands, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
he's enjoying what he wants to do, and it's just nice to know that | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
there's an organisation out there like that that can help. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
You all right, mate? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
But while his social life might be improving, there's a much bigger challenge - Josh's education. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:35 | |
He's missed out on so much school as it is, this year. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
To miss out on any more will probably hold him back, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
and we don't want him to be held back because of his condition. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
At this crucial time in his education, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
Josh has been forced to stay at home and had to rely on visits from a home tutor. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
There's a home tutor that comes around it could be once a fortnight sometimes, it depends, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
and she goes into the school, picks the work up and brings it back home to me, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:08 | |
so I can just sit in the kitchen and just do the work. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
It's OK for short-term basis, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
but you need to get back into school, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
because obviously it's not the same as having someone in front of you, like a teacher, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
telling you what to do. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
But with the stairs and corridors at school, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Josh now needs a full-time carer to get from class to class safely. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
It's something his family simply can't afford. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
It's important to get Josh back into school, and the one thing that's really stopping him is obviously | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
the physical barriers and physical support he needs being at school, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
so I'm looking at ways to get money off the Government to provide that care. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Things are looking up for Josh. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
After months of toing and froing, he finally gets some life-changing news. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
The school have agreed to pay for a carer to help him get to his classes. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
We've been in lots of different meetings and what's happened is the funding's come from the school. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
So Josh can have a carer to get back to learning, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
which he's excited about. He's really bright and missed out on a lot. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
This is what we've hoped for and fought for. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
It's actually nice to see him back with his school stuff on, back to school, meeting his friends, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
getting an education that he needs to progress with his life and do the job he wants when he leaves school. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
Josh's school have been really good and felt really supported. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:36 | |
So with us all working together, it's meant we can confidently get Josh | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
back into school as quick as possible but the paramount thing was his safety. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
Josh going back to school is absolutely wonderful. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
It's given me total peace of mind, knowing I can take him into school | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
and I can come home and not have to worry because he's in safe hands. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
-Hello there! Welcome back! -Yeah. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
-A while. -Hiya. What's it feel like? -Weird. -I think he's really nervous. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:15 | |
-It feels weird for everybody. Are you glad to be back? -Mmm. -Good. We're glad to have you back. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:22 | |
Russell Hall, a teaching assistant at the school, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
will now make sure Josh gets from class to class safely. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Whenever Josh is in school, I'll be with him, help him around, make sure he gets to lessons. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:35 | |
When he's got hospital appointments and things like that, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I'll still go into the lessons, the core lessons, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
English, maths, science, get the work, make any notes and take them back to Josh. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
'It does feel good just to get back to school, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
'because you get rid of the boredom and you see your friends again,' | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
which cheers you up. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
To begin with, Josh will be part-time so he can get used to school more gradually. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
Yeah, I do feel a lot more safer, and a lot more secure, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:07 | |
and it just makes a big difference. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
He's going to have the next two years full of happiness, really, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
even though he's going to have a awful lot of time in and out of hospital and everything, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
but the plus side is we've got everything | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
in place for his education, and it's going to give him | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
the start he needs and he really does deserve in life. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
He's shown a inner courage, an inner strength | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
to come back into school, as he has done today. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I see no reason why in 2012 he shouldn't collect | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
a good batch of GCSEs, going onto college and going onto university. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
I feel fantastic for helping Josh out. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
It made all the hard work and letters and phone calls so worthwhile. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
'I think now I can concentrate more on my work, and get better grades.' | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
I would say it's a new start. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Josh has been dealt some pretty tough cards, but thanks to the help | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
and support of people like Serena, he's now going to get something that every kid deserves. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
An education, and a childhood. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Now, from the saints who help those in real need, to the people who steal from the system. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
Our scroungers in Essex. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Bob and Samantha Martin were under investigation | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
for swindling over £130,000 in benefits, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
and after a lucky coincidence, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
the council's fraud team were building a strong case against them. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
The Martins painted this picture of living on the breadline and struggling to pay the rent. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
But Epping Forest Council's investigators soon found this was far from the truth. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
And incredibly, it turns out another member of the family was about to catch their attention as well. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:49 | |
At the same time as investigating the Martins, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
we investigated somebody called Francesca Russell. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
This was Samantha Martin's sister. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Francesca lived just down the road from Bob and Samantha Martin | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
in Buckhurst Hill, Essex. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
She was claiming housing and council tax benefit | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
from Epping Forest District Council. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
She claimed to live alone with her children in a property. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
This is the housing benefit application form for Francesca Russell. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
Where she clearly neglects to put a partner down on her form, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
and indeed she ticks "no" | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
to the question "Do you have a partner who normally lives with you?" | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Accompanying the form was a tenancy agreement that only showed Francesca Russell as the tenant. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:38 | |
If she had a partner that was working, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
this would affect her benefit entitlement, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
either reducing it or totally knocking her out of benefit. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
But just like her sister Samantha, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
the council soon discovered things were not how they appeared. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
Officers obtained the original tenancy agreement from the same landlord, | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
detailing tenants as Mr Karl Russell | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
and Mrs Francesca Russell of the same address. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
So the council were looking at a false document, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
the tenancy agreement, but also a failure to declare that Mrs Russell | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
had her husband living with her. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
So Francesca was also cheating the taxpayer. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Meanwhile, her sister Samantha and brother-in-law Bob continued to claim benefit. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
In 2006, the house in Allnutts Road, where they claimed to be renting, was sold. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
The couple moved to another house in Epping, apparently owned by the same Portuguese landlord. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
They moved to a different rented house and continued to claim housing benefit | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
and council tax benefit, as well as income support at that property. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
It did seem strange that the Martins moved from one property to another, within Epping, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
and had the same landlord, and we thought, well, who is this landlord? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
He lives in Portugal, but we've never seen him. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Whether they really were tenants with a Portuguese landlord, in the end it didn't matter. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
The council already had enough financial evidence to make a case. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
We thought we had enough to get Mr and Mrs Martin arrested. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
The police could then search the property for further evidence, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
and indeed, that happened in August 2007. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-You've got the wrong person! -'I was there at the search. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
'It was a very plush property, they were doing well for themselves. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
'They weren't living on the breadline as they claimed to be.' | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
And they were far from amateurs. The Martins were highly organised scroungers. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
Normally you find paperwork everywhere, all in drawers, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
but the Martins had it in folders in a cabinet. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Folders that were marked benefits, mortgages, bank accounts, building society accounts. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
Just as the fraud team had hoped, the search turned up even more | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
financial evidence against the Martins. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
When we found the bank statements, we realised they hadn't been declared to us. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
We approached the banks and obtained statements back to 2003, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
when Mr and Mrs Martin initially claimed income support and housing benefit. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
This is a Halifax bank statement that the council obtained, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
following Mr and Mrs Martin's arrest. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
It shows that on 1st February 2005, £44,000 was deposited into that account. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:26 | |
In July, £79,460 was deposited. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
Over a matter of months, the Martins had | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
over £120,000 go through their account. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
This meant they had more money than they had declared. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Further investigations into the Martin's finances | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
revealed that on 14th April 2003, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
just after their claim for housing benefit, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
£98,190 was deposited into Mr Martin's Bank of Ireland account. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:03 | |
This meant that from pretty much the outset of their claim, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
they wouldn't have been entitled to housing benefit. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
We had proof that they were committing offences right back to 2003. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
That's just pretty disgusting really, you know, this was pure greed. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
In fact, between 2003 and 2007, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
a staggering £430,000 had gone through their accounts. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
And all the time, these people were illegally claiming taxpayers' money, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
in the form of housing and council tax benefits and income support. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
Anyone who wants to claim housing benefit could only claim | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
if they had less than £16,000 in their bank at any one time. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
On numerous occasions, the Martins had well in excess of that. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
It's an offence not to declare that you have capital that exceeds £16,000. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:56 | |
It was time for the Martins to face some serious questions. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Mr Martin was very calm when he was arrested. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Mrs Martin was really upset, and, you know, very tearful. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
He was interviewed for over an hour, and he didn't crack. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
He made no comment at every question. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Samantha Martin declined to be interviewed, due to ill health, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
but the council had enough evidence to go court. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
And the game was up for Samantha Martin's sister Francesca too. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Over just four months, she had falsely claimed £7,000 in benefits. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
The couple were arrested at their property in Buckhurst Hill. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
The police searched the property and established that her husband had been living with her. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
Francesca, who turned up at Chelmsford Crown Court to support her sister, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
was found guilty of benefit fraud. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
She was ordered to do 150 hours of unpaid work, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
and was given an eight-month prison sentence, suspended for two years. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
No charges were brought against her husband. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
The Martins were charged with dishonestly claiming benefit | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
and concealing their true financial circumstances, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
including their ownership of property. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
The council also brought the prosecution for income support fraud | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
In Mrs Martin's defence, it was argued Mr Martin had posed as his wife, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
bought the property in Chingford and sold it without her knowledge. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
She admitted she was aware of the bank accounts, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
but claimed she didn't know that her husband had bought a property, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
and then sold it, with the proceeds going through her account. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
In the end, she admitted they were both involved | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
and they pleaded guilty to all charges put to them. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Samantha Martin was given a 12-month suspended sentence, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
and ordered to do 150 hours of unpaid work. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
It was revealed that Bob Martin had a previous conviction for fraud. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
He was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Following this investigation, it was established | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
that the Martins were overpaid £130,000 housing benefit, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
council tax benefit and income support. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
That's the biggest ever fraud found in Epping Forest District Council's history. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
Robert Martin got a longer sentence because he was the main architect of the fraud. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:31 | |
It has been very pleasing to bring both those prosecutions to successful conclusion. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
What we have to hope is that anybody out there | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
who is currently committing a fraud sees what has happened, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
and that is a significant deterrent. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Mistakes, stupidity or just plain greed. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
It doesn't matter how clever cheats think they are, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
sooner or later they will get caught. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
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