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Saint And Scroungers puts the spotlight on benefit thieves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
People who steal millions from the British taxpayer. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
We also search out the saints. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
People who help put unclaimed cash into the hands of those who really need it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:16 | |
Saints And Scroungers is all about busting benefit thieves who steal millions every year, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
and the crack teams of investigators determined to scupper their devious scams. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:49 | |
We also shine a light on those who genuinely need the money and the people who help them get it. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:56 | |
They are our saints. The saints get help | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
and the fraudsters get their comeuppance. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Coming up on today's show. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
The dentist who shamelessly stole £307,000 from the NHS, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:10 | |
despite already earning a six-figure salary. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-So well in excess of £400,000 he had coming in each year. -Thereabouts, yes. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
Gordon Bennett! He was rolling in it. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
And we meet the teenager who hit rock bottom | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
and struggled to turn her life around. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
They said if you breach this, we'll send you to jail | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
because you're not listening | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
And my heart just sunk. I thought, "I can't do time in jail." | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Working as a dentist carries with it a sort of respectability. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
You've trained hard and you are paid well | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
for looking after the teeth and gums of the nation. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Open wide, please. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
Working as a prison dentist is perhaps not the most rewarding job... | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
There's a bit of tartar build-up there. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
..Unless, of course, you're getting paid for it twice by the taxpayer. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
I can see problems ahead. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
John Hudson had built a nice lifestyle for himself, his wife and three kids, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
thanks to years of hard work running a dental practice in his home time of Rochdale, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
where he catered for private and NHS patients. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
But he had another string to his bow. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
For the past ten years, he's been working | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
at nearby Altcourse Prison to provide dental services for inmates. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
So far, so respectable. but imagine the shock | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
when it became known that this apparently decent pillar of the community | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
was suspected of cheating the NHS out of a whopping £306,961. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:45 | |
That is a pretty breathtaking figure and I wanted to know | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
if fraud on that scale was common in the NHS. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
So I went along to the headquarters of NHS Protect, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
the dedicated division whose job it is to tackle crime across the health service. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Liz Wood is an anti-fraud specialist with NHS Protect. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Her main focus is dental fraud. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
If you were to investigate a case, when would you start doing it? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Is there a line, where over a certain amount you start investigating? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
Generally, I don't investigate anything under £100,000. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-Wow, a lot of money. -It's an awful lot of money. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
NHS Protect clearly deals with a lot of dental fraud every year | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
but even by Liz's standards, the sums involved in the John Hudson case were huge. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
How on Earth had it all come about? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Her Majesty's Prison Altcourse is a privately run prison. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Who pays for dental treatment there? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Until fairly recently, it was provided by a private company. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
This private company would employ their own dentist, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
or dentists, one of them being John Hudson, correct? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
Yes, that's true. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
So John Hudson had a contract worth a considerable amount of money with a private medical provider | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
to do dental work at HMP Altcourse. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Pauline Smith, head of anti-fraud at NHS Protect in the North West, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
takes up the story. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
It was established that Mr Hudson had held a contract | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
for providing dental services at HMP Altcourse since 1998. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
He was paid on a sessional basis £400 per session, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
usually two sessions per day, two days per week. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Hmm. A nice little earner, you might think, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
but keeping the nation's gnashers in good nick is a responsible job. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
And you would expect an experienced dentist to be well paid. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Hmm. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
HMP Altcourse is in Liverpool, but because he was working there under a private contract, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
Hudson had no direct contact with Liverpool NHS. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
But, in 2004, the rules changed and all dentists were required to register | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
with a local Primary Care Trust, so Hudson duly reported to Liverpool PCT. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
Mr Hudson was issued with his dental-contract number, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:20 | |
which would allow him to commence being paid for NHS services he provided. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
As far as we were aware, Mr Hudson, however, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
continued to provide dental services under private contract. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
So as far as the authorities were concerned, everything was above board. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
But jump forward to 2008 | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
and a routine phone call from the prison's private medical provider | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
to Liverpool Primary Care Trust reveals a very different story. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
When did you become aware something wasn't quite right with what John Hudson was doing? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
Basically, there was a new manager arrived at the prison | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
and decided to check whether the amounts they were paying for lab work, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
that's dentures, bridges, crowns, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
whether they were in the right sort of area. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Because there's a vast difference in the amounts that you can pay for lab work. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
The new manager rang up the local Primary Care Trust and said, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
"Can you give you some advice?" | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
And the people in the Primary Care Trust were very surprised about this, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
because they thought they were paying for the dental treatment, rather than the prison. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:40 | |
Hang on a minute, so who was paying John Hudson? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Was it the private medical company, or was it the NHS? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
At this point, both parties were in a state of confusion. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Both appeared to be holding contracts for the provision of dental services within HMP Altcourse. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:59 | |
Clearly, there was either an error, or something was not quite right. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
But there was no denying the one figure at the centre of all this - | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
John Hudson. The dentist was suspended from his duties with immediate effect | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
while the NHS Protect fraud team started to investigate. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
Pauline knew that John Hudson had registered with Liverpool PCT in 2004. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
So she was able to access his records. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
The first thing we did was extracted both contracts, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
both the privately held contract and the NHS contract | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
to establish any evidence of overlap | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
or to identify which was accurate and which, if any, was incorrect. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
Hudson's private contract with the prison showed | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
that he had started there in 1998 and was being paid around £120,000 a year. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:52 | |
His NHS contract, however, didn't start until 2006. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
In 2006, Mr Hudson negotiated an NHS dental contract | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
to provide dental services at HMP Altcourse with Liverpool Primary Care Trust. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
The contract was worth £136,000 per annum, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
paid monthly at £12,000 per month. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
So Hudson's NHS contract at 12 grand a month | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
was worth even more than his private one at a mere 10 grand a month. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
But, how had he managed to swindle the NHS | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
into giving him a contract with HMP Altcourse, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
when he was already working there in a private capacity? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
To understand how this could have happened, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
we have to go back to 2006, when the NHS changed the way it paid its dentists. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
Up to 2006, they were paid for every dental procedure they provided. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
For example, every check-up, every scale and polish | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
and every filling provided. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
From 2006, the NHS paid its dentists on an annual contract. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
It seems that this change in the rules presented Hudson | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
with an opportunity for fraud that he couldn't resist. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Tell me about John Hudson. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
He applied to get a contract | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
specifically to supply NHS work to the prison, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
despite the fact that he was being paid privately to provide the same work. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
On his application form there is actually a box you're supposed to tick | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
to say, "I do some work privately," but that is blank. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
-This is a copy of the form. -OK. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
-Independent, private. -That box is not ticked. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
So the fact that he hasn't ticked the box | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
means the NHS are assuming he's not doing private work? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Yes, the NHS takes these things at face value. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
It's a prison contract, we assume he's not doing private work. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
So it was becoming clear that for the past two years, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Hudson had been cynically ripping off the NHS to the tune of around £136,000 a year, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:09 | |
while being paid £120,000 by the private medical company | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
But that wasn't the half of it. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
He also had his personal practice, the other one, the dental practice. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
He had an NHS contract, which in 2010, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
was worth just under £195,000. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Plus any private work that he did. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
-So well in excess of £400,000 he had coming in each year? -Yes. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Gordon Bennett! He was rolling in it. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Later, Hudson clearly had no qualms about stealing money from the NHS | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
to line his own pockets, but what would happen | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
when his extravagant lifestyle caught up with him? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
When he was actually on holiday in the Caribbean, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
he said he was treating patients at the same time. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-While he's on a beach, he's putting claims in for treatment he wasn't doing? -That's true. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
And still to come, we meet the benefit cheat | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
whose love of the golf course would be his undoing. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
That person portrayed on the claim form was not really consistent | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
with somebody playing golf three or four times a week. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Next, it's farewell to the scroungers and hello to the saints. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
The innocent men and women all over the UK in dire need of Government help. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
And the people who show them the way to claim what they deserve. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Growing up in care can be difficult | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and a lot of people get over that hurdle. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
But, do you know, about a third of children who leave care | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
end up employed and on Jobseeker's Allowance? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
19-year-old Ella Barnett went into care at 13 and spent | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
the next three years going from school to school | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
and from foster parent to care home. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Life was never going to be easy for this teenager. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
I went into care between 13 and 14. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
I went a lot off the rails, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
drinking, stealing, smoking. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
I didn't think anyone cared about me, so I thought, "Why do I care?" | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Ella's clearly had the kind of childhood you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
I've come along to Ashford in Kent to meet her and find out how she's doing now. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-Right. Tell me about you, Ella. 19-years-old? -Yes. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
-You've had quite a life, though? -Yes. -Tell me about it. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
My mum and dad split up when I was younger. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
My mum left, my dad took care of me and my little sister. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
Tell me about the problems you remember. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
My dad not being in a stable relationship, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
-there were a lot of people coming in and out of our lives. -Yep. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Did you feel you weren't getting the parental love you expected? | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Yeah. Definitely. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
I just felt it was me against the world. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-What about your sister? -My sister, we didn't get along. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
It was just that clash. She wanted my dad, I wanted my dad. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
If she got more attention, I'd get jealous, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
if I got more attention, she'd get jealous. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Things were made worse because Ella's father was often away from home working. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
I started misbehaving when my dad was going away. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
My dad would come home and start shouting. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I just thought, "I don't want this." | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
So I was just going out all the time, I didn't care. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
-I'd sneak out of the windows. -Yeah. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-How old were you? -I was about 10, 11. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Things were bad at home and, by now, Ella's schoolwork was suffering. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
If I did go to school, I wouldn't do my homework. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
I didn't really bother at school, I just didn't care at school any more. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
But the problems really began when Ella was 13 | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
and she started drinking and shoplifting. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
-Did the police get involved? -Yeah, they did. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
I went to court I don't how many times. I lost track. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-How young were you? -I think was 13 when I first went. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
-Into a court? -Yeah. -Charged with theft? -Yes. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
What happened? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
-I went on community service. -Right. -I had to do a lot of that. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
One night, Ella was involved in a fight at a party. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
The police were called and she was taken into custody. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
At the age of 13, you had spent a night in a police cell? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
You had court judgments ordering you to do community service. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-Your life is spiralling out of control? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
It was at this point that Ella's father couldn't cope any more | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
and Ella was put into care. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
I got to the care home and it was young children, just like myself, going through what I'm going through. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:57 | |
I just wanted to go home, but I knew I couldn't. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Yeah, it was horrible. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-How did you actually feel, as a person? -I felt like rubbish. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
I didn't feel like I should be honest. I hated it. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
I really hated it. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
While in care, Ella fell into bad company. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
One day, she was involved in a serious theft. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
She was put on a curfew and made to wear | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
an electronic ankle bracelet for six months. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
They said, "If you breach this, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
"we will send you to jail, because you're not listening." | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
My heart just sunk. I thought, "I know I can't do time in jail. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
"I won't handle it in there." So, yes, that hit me. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Even though she had avoided prison, because she had just turned 16, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
Ella now had something she could never escape - a criminal record. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
Around this time, Ella had to leave care. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Because she could not legally claim benefits until she was 18, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
she was given £50 a week from Social Services and a flat to live in, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
but, sadly, that didn't last long. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
I was just letting anyone stay over. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
There was a lot of fights going on. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I was, like, "They won't kick a 16-year-old out!" But what happened? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
-They did. -Where did you end up? -I went to a really horrible B&B. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
There was needles everywhere. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
There was alcoholics. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
Weren't very nice people. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
'What made matters worse, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
'was that the B&B was in a strange town where she knew no-one.' | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-How long were you at the B&B for? -Between two and three months. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
How would you describe that period in your life? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
The worst, actually, the worst point in my life, that. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
At this time, Ella had been assigned a social worker, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
but at this point, her case was taken over by Robin Nolan, of the charity Catch 22, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
who are contracted by Kent Council to run their Leaving Care services. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
Initially, when I first met Ella, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
she was distrusting of anyone at that moment in time. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Robin come upstairs and I said, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
"If you're not going to do nothing, I don't want to know none of you." | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
After a brief discussion, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
we actually agreed that she needed to move back to her hometown | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
and I made an appointment with Ella to go to the | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
local council office and register herself as a homeless young person, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
and used the homeless legislation to get Ella rehoused. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
He got me out in a week and I was really happy. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Back in Ashford, Robin managed to get Ella her own flat, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
which she moved into with her boyfriend, Paul. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
By this time, she was 18, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
so Robin was also able to help apply for Jobseeker's Allowance. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
Things were definitely looking up for Ella, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
but although she was no longer in physical danger, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
she was in danger of becoming a statistic, another teenager | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
leaving the care system with no job prospects and relying on benefits. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
I had nothing, no experience in anything, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
what I wanted to do, had no NVQ, nothing. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
But then, one day, Ella got a letter from the Job Centre. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
A government scheme called The Future Jobs Fund was asking | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
her to attend an interview with a local authority funded charity | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
called Kent Children's Fund Network or KCFN. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
They organised play activities for children in schools | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
and youth clubs, all over the county. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Didn't know who they were, nothing about them. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
What did that letter say? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Said I had an interview so I thought I'd go to it. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
The job interview was a golden opportunity for Ella, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
but with so many young people unemployed, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
would her criminal record stand in her way? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I thought they'd just look at the paperwork | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and go, "Not having her." | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
But first, we revisit the devious world of the scrounger. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
And here's a message to those benefits thieves out there. Smile! | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
You're on camera. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
They think they're clever. They think they can beat the system. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Every year, thousands of benefit cheats get put under surveillance. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Welcome to the undercover world of benefit fraud investigators | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and the cheats they love to catch out. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
People say you cannot beat a round of golf. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
It's a great way to relax, get some exercise, enjoy the great outdoors. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
What could be better than getting out there on a regular basis? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
Like this chap, happy as Larry, as he goes out | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and enjoys his weekly round of golf without a care in the world. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Who would have thought such an innocent pastime | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
could land someone in such big trouble? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Because the surprising thing about this golfer, is that | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
despite the fact that he plays at least once a week up, covering an | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
average of four miles per round, he claims to be suffering from such | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
severe rheumatoid and osteoarthritis that he can barely walk. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
In fact, 51-year-old Peter Crowder's condition | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
was so bad, in 2005 he had to retire from his job as a psychiatric nurse | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
and started claiming benefits worth £45 a week. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
A couple of years later, and he's back for more. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
It seems his condition worsened, so he made another claim | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
and increased his weekly benefits to over £100. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
In August 2007 he made a claim for the mobility element | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
of Disability Living Allowance, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
and at that time was awarded the highest rate of mobility | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
allowance and his care component was increased to the highest rate, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
just based on what he said on the claim form at that time. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Then the National Benefit Fraud Hotline received an anonymous | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
tipoff saying that Peter Crowder wasn't as disabled as he claimed | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and had been spotted on a golf course. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
How can I put this? Working on his handicap? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
First and foremost we needed to see for ourselves him playing golf. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
We were able to put Mr Crowder under surveillance | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
and we saw him unpacking his clubs and playing a round of golf. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
He was playing several times a week without any ailments whatsoever. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Over a period of time, Mr Crowder played golf on 151 occasions | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
over a three-year period and competed in 49 competitions. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
It sounds like Crowder never missed an opportunity to | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
practise his swing, and as a regular fixture at his local golf club, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
he must have been out there in all weathers. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Now that doesn't sound like a man suffering from serious arthritis. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Let's go back to those claim forms and take another look. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
The DLA claim form showed he was in constant pain | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
and couldn't get dressed without any assistance, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
taking four, five, six minutes to climb stairs | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
and was unable to use a bath, having difficulty with his care needs. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
He needed help getting undressed couldn't hold implements, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
he didn't have the grip in his hands. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
So that person that was portrayed on the claim form was not really | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
consistent with somebody who's playing golf three or four times | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
a week and gripping a golf club. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
But that's his opinion. What does our expert think? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
This is Mr Crowder. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
He's just arrived at the golf club. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
He's lifted quite a heavy weight out of the boot. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
He's pushing his golf trolley. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
He doesn't seem to be walking with any difficulty whatsoever. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
I'm basically looking for signs of pain | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
and stiffness which are the symptoms of arthritis. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
He doesn't seem to be limping | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
and there seems to be no inhibition of his movements at all. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
Playing golf requires a full range of movements | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
and if someone's got arthritis in any of those areas, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
it can affect the way they play. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The DWP were now satisfied they'd got all the evidence they needed | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
and Peter Crowder was called in and interviewed under caution. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
At first, he denied everything, but then they pulled out their proof. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
Mr Crowder was eventually shown the footage | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
and he admitted that he should have put on the claim form that he | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
was capable of playing golf and he couldn't understand why | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
he had omitted to put that down on the claim form. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
In a panic, Crowder then remortgaged his house in order to pay | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
back £20,000 worth of illegally obtained benefits. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
But by then, it was too late. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
In August 2011, Peter Crowder was convicted of failing to declare a change in his circumstances | 0:23:41 | 0:23:47 | |
and making a false statement to obtain more benefits in 2007. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
He was sentenced to six months in jail. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Another scrounger banged to rights. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
That's one golfer who is decidedly below-par. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Now it's back to the good guys. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
By any standards, Ella Barnett has had a rough start in life. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
In care at 13, by 16 she was dossing in a B&B with alcoholics and drug addicts. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
Thanks to the prompt actions of her social worker that she was plucked to safety. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
Soon as he said, "Right, we're going", I couldn't believe it. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
My heart melted. I thought no-one was going to help me again. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
-How long did it take you to pack your case? -Two minutes, I think. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Back in her hometown of Ashford, things were looking up for Ella. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
She was now in her own flat | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and had been asked by the Job Centre to attend an interview | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
at Kent Children's Fund Network or KCFN, for short. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
KCFN is a not-for-profit charity. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
We deliver youth service activity, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
working with young people that are hard to engage, and vulnerable young people. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
A large part of KCFN's work involves organising play sessions | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
for these vulnerable kids and Garnet was looking for two assistant play workers | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
for a six-month, fully-paid contract. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
It's an opportunity for them to progress, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
to gain the skills, to work alongside experienced play workers, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:23 | |
gain new skills and then also progress on to qualifications. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:30 | |
Although she had been identified by the Job Centre as a suitable candidate, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
Ella was totally lacking in self-confidence | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and felt like she didn't have a hope of getting the job. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
I thought, "Oh, I'm not going to look for a job, cos I'm never going to get nothing." | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
My criminal record was going to affect me, like, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
working with children. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
I thought they was just going to look at the paperwork | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
in black and white and thought, "Not having her". | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
But encouraged by her boyfriend, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Ella did pluck up the courage to go along to the interview. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
When you went along, how many other people were up for the job? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
Um, there was five of us, I think. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
It was a group interview. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
-Right. How did you feel? -Nervous. Really nervous at that point. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
I thought, I'm not going to get it, there's other people here, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
more talent working with children, more experience... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Yeah, I was so nervous, Dom! | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
I didn't know nothing. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
The interview process could appear quite daunting. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
We want to see how that young person will engage with young people, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
and so we set up a role-play situation | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
and it's quite interesting to see some of the results from that. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
I was doing my best that I could, I answered a lot of questions, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
but anyone in an interview panics and thinks they're not going to | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
get the job, someone else is going to get it. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
But at the end, I think I done really well. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Ella really stood out because of her big personality. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
She came across as a young person who could engage other young people | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
and we saw potential in Ella. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
A few days later, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
and Ella was back at home, waiting nervously by the phone. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
My heart was racing, I thought they were going to say the position | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
has been filled, you're not going to get it. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
A KCFN member, he phoned me and said, "Congratulations, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
"you've got the job" - I must have screamed down that phone! | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Garnet had given Ella the job because she'd done so well at the interview. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
To him, her past was just her past. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
Although Ella had a criminal record, she had disclosed that to us, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
and we felt that as an organisation, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
we give every young person a chance and we didn't see that as a risk. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:54 | |
Want me to join in with you? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
Garnet also knew that this job represented Ella's first real chance to turn her life around. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:09 | |
The good thing about the play-worker placement was that it was a paid position. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
They got to work with skilled play-workers that had been doing it for many years | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
and they were able to gain confidence and become employable. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
-And what's your name? -Amber. -Amber. I'm Ella. -Hi, Ella. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
The other lucky applicant was 20-year-old Sarah Lonsborough. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
Like Ella, Sarah had been unemployed for a while. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
Literally, it was just rejection letter after rejection letter. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
It was really off-putting. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
I was looking on the internet. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
I was going into cafes and hotels handing in my CV and they were just like, "Yeah, we'll call you." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
They never did. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
The two girls met at the interview day and immediately got on. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Do you want to give it a go? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Instantly I clicked with her. She was amazing. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
She just had such great ideas for play. It was just brilliant. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
Hey! | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
So, within a year, Ella went from the pit of despair to being fully employed, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
working at schools and youth centres all over Kent, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
organising and participating in children's play sessions. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Tell me about the job. Are you just going in and helping out with kids? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
Parents as well. We're helping with families. We go to a session, if they want to talk to us they can. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:37 | |
So is this disadvantaged families? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-Some. -Some people got their own problems or children who've got problems? -Yeah. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
I can see why you'd be the ideal person for that | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
-because you've had that troubled background, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
So I know what it's like. Definitely. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-Do you want me to help you? -Yeah. -Yeah? All right. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-Cos I'm only four. -You're only four? That's still a big girl. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
Ella grew tremendously, cos when she first came in, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
she was very bright and you always knew when Ella was around. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
But she wasn't as confident as she appeared to be. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
She grew in confidence and was able flourish, really. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:22 | |
OK. And push your legs. Keep pushing. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
Ella was gaining confidence by the bucketload, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
and part of that was down to the fact that for the first time in her life, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
she was off benefits and earning her own money. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
That's it. Yay! Well done! | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
You are now getting a wage packet instead of Jobseeker's Allowance. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
How did it feel when that first packet arrived? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
It was lovely. Loved it. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-What did you do with it? -I went shopping. I filled up my cupboards. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
-Food? -Food. The fridge was always full. -Yep. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-What about some of the other things you bought? -I bought new sofas. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Because I could afford a new one, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
I gave my old one to the youth centre. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
All right, let's go. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Ella was clearly in her element at KCFN. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
Aw, you're winning! | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
But sadly, the job was only ever going to last for six months. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
Luckily for her, that didn't mean going back to square one, because Garnet stuck by her. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:23 | |
Ella was of course upset that the work placement ended, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
but we had an opportunity to sit down and talk about the future, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:33 | |
and one of the options we took up was that Ella do the Children And Young Person's qualification, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:40 | |
which is the equivalent to an NVQ Level 2. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
That will give Ella the opportunity to progress onto social care qualifications, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
which she wants to do in future. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
I was looking forward to catching up with Ella to find out how she'd been coping | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
since her six-month contract had ended. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
-You loved that job, didn't you? -Yes. I knew where I stood. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
You were off benefits as well. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Yeah. Getting payslips, earning my own money. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Paying tax. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Shopping. Don't forget the shopping cos I know how much you love that. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
So now you're on a training course at NVQ Level 2. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
At the end of it you'll be a qualified child carer? | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
No. Children and young people work force. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
-From there where do you go? -My social worker, Robin, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
is trying to get me on the course to be a social worker. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
OK. That's a much longer course, isn't it? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-Yeah. Three years, it's going to take. -OK. You fancy that? -Yeah. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
If I train to be a social worker and I go and see a young child | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
and they're like, "You don't know what I'm going through", | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
I'll say, "I do. I've been there. I know what you're going through." | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
-You've got the T-shirt, haven't you? -Yeah. -You done it. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
But you've come out of it now, that's the thing. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
You've had another little down in the fact this job ran out after six months | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
-but you're back on the ladder again. -Yeah. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
-Tell me where you're going to be in five years' time. -A social worker. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
-Full-time, qualified, employed. -Yeah, social worker. -Yeah? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
I'm going to come back and check on you in five years' time! | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
I'll make sure you will! | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
-Don't eat it! -Why? -Cos it's Play-Doh! You don't eat Play-Doh. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
For the time being, Ella is back on Jobseeker's Allowance while she completes her NVQ, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:33 | |
but having got a taste of financial independence, hopefully it won't be long till she's fully employed | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
in a job that she loves and where she can make a difference. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
Here you go, darling. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
I am looking forward to the future. My goal is to be a social worker and I'm going to reach that goal. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:49 | |
I know it's going to take a few years, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
and you've got to keep your head up high and it's going to be hard, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
but you've got to stick by it. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
If you want that in life, you've got to go for it. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
What do you want to do, then? Football, all right. Shall we go and find a football? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
While she's studying, Ella can do the odd play session for KCFN, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
which means she can keep her hand in and stay in close touch with Garnet. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
I think Ella can achieve anything she wants to. She's very driven. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
She's got an idea of what she wants to do. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
It's rewarding to see a young person like Ella progress and achieve. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:27 | |
It's inspiring, and as an organisation that's what we're all about. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Hey! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
As a child, Ella got dealt a pretty rough hand. As a result of that, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
she turned to crime and felt like there was no hope. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
But it's thanks to saints like Garnet, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
because people like him help turn lives around, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
give people a second chance in life, and now Ella is on her way | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
to becoming one of those saints herself. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Back now to the world of a scrounger, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and the fraud investigators of NHS Protect | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
are grappling with one of the most audacious and cynical attempts | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
to defraud the NHS they had ever come across. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
Rochdale dentist John Hudson | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
had been working under a private contract | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
at Her Majesty's Prison Altcourse near Liverpool. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
However, Pauline Smith, anti-fraud specialist for NHS Protect in the North West, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
had discovered that he had also managed to dupe his local Primary Care Trust | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
into giving him another contract for the same work. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Critically, he omitted to tick box F, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
which would have immediately indicated to Liverpool Primary Care Trust | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
that the work he was completing at the prison was actually being paid for by the private medical provider. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:50 | |
It was time to call Hudson in for an interview to see if he could share the wisdom of this potential mix-up. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
But getting answers out of this dentist was like pulling teeth. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Open wide. This may hurt a bit. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
On the 27th of March 2009, John Hudson was asked | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
to attend the first of several interviews under caution. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
In total Mr Hudson was interviewed on four separate occasions. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
On each and every occasion, Mr Hudson maintained "no comment" | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
to every question put to him during the interviews. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
The team now desperately needed to build a case that was going to stand up in court. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
If Hudson wasn't going to co-operate, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
then they need to look elsewhere for further proof of his wrongdoing. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Luckily, the evidence was there in black and white | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
in the form of the meticulous dental patient records kept by the prison, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
which showed which prisoner had been seen where and what treatment they had received. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:49 | |
Anti-fraud specialist Liz Wood takes up the story. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Basically, we cross-checked all of the work | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
that he claimed to have done for NHS patients at the prison, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
and we cross-checked that against the diaries in the prison. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
We checked the patient record cards | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
to make sure he wasn't actually doing anything extra that could justify the claim to the NHS. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:15 | |
The team were worried that Hudson might claim that he needed the NHS contract | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
because he was seeing so many patients at the prison | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
that the money he was getting from the private medical company just didn't cover it. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Crucially, there was no other evidence of any appointments over and above those already paid for | 0:37:26 | 0:37:32 | |
under the terms of the private medical contract | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
that would require or justify payments to be made by the NHS. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
But Pauline didn't stop there. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
When they're investigating a fraud, NHS Protect are given special powers | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
to access the personal financial details of the suspected fraudster. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
Pauline was able to comb through loads of paperwork relating to John Hudson, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
including bank statements, credit card statements, as well as pay slips | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
from both the NHS and the private medical supplier. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
This is a letter from Mr Hudson to the private medical provider, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:14 | |
where he's claiming for services that he has provided to the Trust | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
under his private contract. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Here we have an NHS payment advice that clearly shows credits | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
being made to Mr Hudson for the identical work that he's | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
already been paid for or claimed for from the private medical provider. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
Together, these documents identify that, clearly, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Mr Hudson was being paid twice for one service he has provided | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
to the prison. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
Bingo! | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Pauline finally had the proof she needed, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
that Hudson was lining his pockets at the expense of the old | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
and sick of Liverpool and the tax payer. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
But it didn't stop there. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
The evidence of his deceptions kept on piling up. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
We even checked his credit card statements | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
and discovered that when he was on actually on holiday | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
in the Caribbean, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
he said he was treating patients at the same time, at the prison. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
He had the nerve to do that? While he's sunning himself, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
he's putting claims in for treatment he wasn't doing? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
That's true. Yes. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
Sounds like there's a lovely paper trail of evidence. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
There was a really good paper trail of evidence. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Not only was this dodgy dentist being paid twice | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
for the same job, but he was also invoicing for work | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
that was carried out while he and his family were swanning off abroad! | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Cheek of it! | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
After months of investigation, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Pauline was satisfied that she had a water-tight case. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
She had evidence that between May 2006 and July 2008, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
Mr Hudson earned £280,000 from his private contract at HMP Altcourse. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:06 | |
For the same period, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
he also received almost £307,000 from the NHS for the same services. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
We were satsfied that none of the money Mr Hudson received | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
from the NHS was appropriate, because he'd already been paid | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
for the services he had provided to the prison | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
by the private medical provider. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
It was time for John Hudson to face the music. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
On the 4th October 2010, he was taken to court | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
and charged with 32 counts of dishonestly retaining wrongful credits | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
and two counts of fraud by false representation. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
He had refused to cooperate with the investigation, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
but on the day, Hudson realised that the writing was on the wall, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
and pleaded guilty to 27 of the charges. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
He returned to court on the 9th of November to hear his fate. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
The judge ruled that John Hudson's fraud deserved a lengthy custodial sentence, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
and he was sent to prison for 27 months. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
In total, John Hudson had swindled the NHS out of £306,961. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:16 | |
For Pauline, it was a satisfactory conclusion | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
to a challenging investigation. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
NHS Protect, overall, are very pleased with the outcome | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
in this case. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
The NHS launched civil proceedings against Hudson | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
and got back every single penny. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
The money was returned to Liverpool Primary Care Trust | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
to be used for its intended purpose - | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
'the care of the sick and elderly in Liverpool. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
'And what does the future hold for Hudson?' | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
He's basically finished. He has to go before the GDC. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
-The General Dentist Council? -The General Dental Council. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
-Hasn't his greed been his absolute downfall? Hasn't it? -Undoubedly. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
This is a man who could have earned a perfectly legitimate living, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
earning far more than most people, and he needed more. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-Ten times more! -Well, yes, he needed a lot more, didn't he? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
In the end, the General Dental Council did vote to suspend | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
John Hudson from their dental practitioner's list. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
This dentist's days of extracting money from the public purse | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
are well and truly over. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
NHS investigators fought tooth and nail to bring him to justice, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
and now he's gone from treating the inmates to being one himself. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
That's what I call karma! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
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