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This programme tracks down thieves, it exposes fraudsters and it brings help to those who really deserve it.

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This is the front line in the battle against benefit fraud.

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This is Saints And Scroungers.

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'Saints And Scroungers is all about busting benefit thieves who steal millions every year

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'and the crack teams of investigators determined to scupper their devious scams.

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'And we also shine a light on those who genuinely need the money

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'and the people who help them get it. They are our saints.

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'The saints get help and the fraudsters get their comeuppance.'

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Coming up on today's show,

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how a woman used her husband and her children

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to steal over £100,000 in false benefit claims.

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It's the highest amount that I've seen fraudulently claimed.

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'And a man whose family shopping trip turned into the worst day of his life.'

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I was assaulted and after all the swelling and things had gone down,

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I didn't have any sight left.

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We all have our favourite bands and some of us even like going to gigs.

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Some fans will even travel the length and breadth of the country in search of their favourite stars.

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But going to concerts is an expensive hobby

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and when you're using taxpayers' money to fund your obsession with boy bands, that's not on.

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'Meet Jayne McKnight, a music fan from Wolverhampton.

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'She enjoys nothing more than listening to her favourite bands.

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'And why not? She's had a tough time.

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'With a husband in a low paid job

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'and three out of her four children disabled, she's reliant on benefits.

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'But appearances can be deceptive. She's suspected of being a massive benefit cheat

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'who has conned the British taxpayer out of £112,000 in benefits.

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'Fraud investigator Andy Millican is hot on her trail.'

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Jayne McKnight's case was one of the ones that was flagged up

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purely by virtue of the amount of the claim involved, which was in excess of £20,000 per annum.

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'That's a tidy sum in anyone's book.

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'But how was she able to claim all that?

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'Well, to start with, it seemed she had four children to look after, was unemployed

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'and her husband was in a low paid job.

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'Surely she deserved extra help with childcare and tax credits. Didn't she?

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'I've come to meet Clare Merrills from HM Revenue and Customs

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'who are responsible for all tax credits

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'to get some clarification about the kind of help out there

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'for people like McKnight.'

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Claire, tell me about working tax credits. What are they?

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Working tax credits are for people who are working.

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So if you are working and you're on a lower income, then you may be entitled to working tax credits

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and the first thing to do is give us a call, explain your circumstances, details of your household income,

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how many hours you're working, that type of thing.

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We will then work out if you're entitled to it.

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If you are, we'll send the form back to you showing exactly what we think you're entitled to.

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You need to check that and then we'll start paying it to you.

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'So in 2003, the McKnights made a joint claim for tax credits.'

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As a result of that application, payment was processed

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resulting in amounts of over £6,000 in respect of child tax credit

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and over £2,000 in respect of the working tax credit element.

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'But that was just the beginning.

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'During the course of that first year

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'Jayne McKnight made 25 calls to the helpline to add further elements to her payments.'

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'One call was to confirm that one of her children was now disabled.'

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As a result of that, her claim was amended,

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which enabled her, for the whole year, to claim in excess of £10,000.

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'The childcare element of working tax credit

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'enables people to get back to work and reclaim a percentage of childcare costs.

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'Having a disabled child increases the amount you're able to claim.'

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It sounds fair enough to me. A child with a disability might need specialist care,

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and like most people, I'm all for giving deserving parents a helping hand.

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'But McKnight's claims didn't stop there.

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'Time for her to press that redial button again.'

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During 2004/5, Jayne McKnight reported some changes in circumstances

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and these included the fact that her husband was no longer employed

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and, in fact, he was severely disabled.

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In addition, she then went on to say that two more of her children were also disabled.

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Furthermore, she then stated that she had registered

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for employment with a temping agency.

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This allowed her to increase the element of working tax credits for her, as well.

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'More changes mean more money. So what's the grand total now?'

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Her tax credit award had increased to over £13,000.

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Now, that's an awful lot of money, but then looking after a disabled husband and three disabled children

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is no easy task. Surely people like this need all the help they can get.

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'And Jayne McKnight was certainly not shy in coming forward

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'to ask for that help.'

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For the year 2005/6,

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she'd reported that her working hours had reduced from 20 to 16.

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The net result of all this was that the total award in payment

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was almost £17,000.

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'It was beginning to feel as though Jayne McKnight

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'had Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs helpline on speed dial

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'as once again is seems the payments were just not enough.

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'During the year 2006-2007,

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'she also claimed that her children were in childcare due to her part-time job

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'and she needed extra help with that,

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'boosting the grand total for that year to over £23,500.

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'And if you thought that was the end of it, think again.'

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By the year 2007/8, she was receiving almost £30,000 per annum in tax credits,

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which I understand is equivalent to a gross annual salary of £40,000 a year.

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'Although benefits like these are clearly lifesavers for those people genuinely in need,

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'every year benefit cheats cost the British taxpayer, that's you and me,

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'a staggering one and a half billion pounds.'

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In this country, how much is paid out each year in working tax credits and child tax credits?

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Tax credits as a whole, we pay out £27 billion a year.

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-Billion?

-Yeah, that's £27 billion to six million families.

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Right, I'm shocked at that amount. How much of that is fraudulent?

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Back in 2009, the figure for error and fraud, so that's people filling in forms incorrectly...

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-Making mistakes.

-..making mistakes, was standing at just under nine percent.

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2010, we'd got that down to just under seven and a half percent.

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Our aim is that we will have it to five percent or less.

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'Now, of course, if Jayne McKnight's claims were genuine then she was entitled to the money.

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'But with such high stakes involved, the fraud team needed to make sure she was telling the truth.

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'The main undercover investigator working with Andy on this case

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'was keen to pursue all the avenues open to her.

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'Due to the nature of her work, she needs to remain anonymous.'

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The amount being paid to Jayne McKnight was quite high

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and therefore we decided to cross-match with other government departments

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and indeed our own systems to ensure that the information held matched against ours.

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'This cross-check immediately started the alarm bells ringing,

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'beginning with her disabled husband.'

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We did some checks and discovered that he was working for a local newspaper company

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in Wolverhampton as a delivery driver.

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Jayne had mentioned that her husband was disabled because he was currently suffering from gout.

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One of the jobs that we would do is to contact the DWP

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to match that information against what she had told us.

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The specific check that we asked the Department for Work and Pensions to conduct

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was to check if Jayne McKnight's husband was in receipt of the Disability Living Allowance

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and they came back and confirmed to us that he'd never been registered for DLA at all.

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So McKnight's unemployed husband is actually working as a delivery driver for a local newspaper

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and not receiving Disability Living Allowance.

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But could he still be disabled, just not claiming it?

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'There was only one way to find out.'

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We went down to his employer.

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We spoke to them at length and they confirmed details they had submitted to us

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in terms of his pay and his tax,

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but they also then went on to say that, as far as their records were concerned,

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he'd never been registered as a disabled employee with them.

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It was quite clear from the information that the employer had told us

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that Mr McKnight would never have been able to fulfil his duties

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of lifting heavy loads of newspapers and delivering them to shops

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with the disabilities described by Jayne McKnight.

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'Jayne McKnight's claims are fast beginning to unravel.

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'Her report relating to her husband has proved to be entirely false.

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'Now that one claim has been blown out of the water,

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'what about the others?

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'Was it true that she had not one but three disabled children?

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'Will Jayne McKnight's lies finally catch her out?'

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They confirmed that Jayne McKnight's children

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had never been registered with that particular childcare provider and she hadn't incurred those costs.

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'Next, it's farewell to the scroungers and hello to the saints,

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'the innocent men and women all over the UK in dire need of government help.

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'And the people who show them the way to claim what they deserve.'

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Sometimes some of the simplest decisions you might have to make

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could affect you for the rest of your life.

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Imagine you're off to the shops with your family to get a few of life's essentials.

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What could possibly go wrong?

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'Chris Ford was happy with his life.

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'He had his dream job working on super yachts

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'and would come home to his loving family.

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'But one fateful day he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.'

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I went shopping with the family. I was assaulted

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and after all the swelling and things had gone down, I didn't have any sight left.

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'Chris has been blind ever since this brutal attack.

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'One minute he had his sight, the next it was ruthlessly taken from him.

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'Through no fault of his own, this proud man who's always looked after his family

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'and stood on his own two feet could now no longer even walk down the street without help.

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'I've come to meet Chris to find out more.'

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Tell me a bit about your life. What did you do, work and things like that?

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Well, I used to work for a local boat builder.

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I did everything in the job. Laminating, carpentry, electrical work, plumbing, everything.

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-Really just got hands-on.

-You're quite a family man, aren't you?

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Really, there is no other life for me.

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My family are the most important thing in my whole life.

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Everybody around you is affected because they don't know what to say to you,

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they don't know how you help you, they don't know how they can comfort you.

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They can see you going down this hole

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and they can't pull you back at first

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and you do, you think to yourself, "Life's over, that's it".

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'Even living in what should've been the safe familiar haven of the family home

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'held hidden, unexpected dangers for Chris.'

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It's really hard to be living in a house that was yours

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and it feels like someone else's house sometimes.

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People put a chair in the wrong place and you walk into it

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or people leave something in the wrong place.

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You have to be careful.

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At first, it was like a prison cell, really.

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Couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything. You know...

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It would be quite natural for anybody who's been through what you've been through

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-to go into a state of depression. Did that happen?

-Yes.

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It came to the point where I thought, "Is it really worth it?" You know?

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If it hadn't been for Brenda at the time and the thought of the kids being without me,

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then yeah, I would've probably gone down the road

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and just carried on walking into the sea and not bothered.

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Yeah. Sorry.

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-Yeah.

-You tell me if you want to stop, mate.

-No, you're all right.

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No, but that's how black it gets, you know?

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From here, I'm in a good place now,

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but when I think back how bad it was,

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yeah, you know, you really do...

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..hit rock bottom.

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When you were at that point, money's worrying you, your life's worrying you,

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the fact that everyone's dependent on you is worrying you. How close did you get to losing your house?

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Very close. We had bailiffs

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sitting outside in white vans waiting to put the padlocks on.

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That was my lowest point, you know? I'm a very, very proud person.

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I like to think that I can stand on my own two feet.

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'But just around the corner was his very own saint.

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'Meet Carol Jenkins,

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'a home-visiting coordinator at independent charity the Dorset Blind Association.'

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My role is to visit people, make assessments

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and then look to see

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what we are able to do for that particular person.

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It may be something from our book clubs, through to dancing,

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through to one of the many activities that we run.

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'Carol runs the Lighthouse Group,

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'a social networking group for people with visual impairment,

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'and she was getting ready to welcome Chris.'

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I actually had visions of loads of old geezers, excuse my French, loads of old geezers sitting there

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all with big thick-rimmed glasses, talking about knitting circles and wanting to do bowling.

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It wasn't like that.

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It's really good to have peer support. That is one of the big things I try to push for.

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You get to know more people, it's starting to encourage your independence,

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which is a must within a family.

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'Although Carol had been able to help Chris to find his feet socially, it was not enough,

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'and now she was determined to make sure he was getting the benefit help that he needed.

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I was very surprised they weren't claiming any of the benefits they were entitled to.

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I was even more surprised to find the financial aspect that was going on in the house.

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They're a proud family, they don't like to claim for things

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and they didn't actually realise a lot of things were their right.

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'Finally, with Carol's help, Chris was able to apply for the benefits he needed and was entitled to,

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'and these benefits started to make all the difference.'

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You get a small amount of money from different places and it adds up.

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And without Carol trying to help us and put us down that road, we would have lost everything.

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It's made a huge difference to Chris and to the family,

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because previously their money coming in was very, very minimal.

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And it's just opened lots of doors for them.

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There's a lot more, I don't know, peace within the family.

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'And most importantly, the fear of losing their home was finally lifted

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'and Chris and his family could look forward to the future.

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'But the one thing that could really have put the wind back in his sails

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'was the one thing Chris was very nearly too afraid to try.'

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Carol says, "Look, we've got one of these taster sessions to go sailing."

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I said, "Oh." You know, I didn't want to do it.

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I had a passion for it before.

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And it was almost like, if I had not been able to do it...

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..then it would've been just one more thing, a nail in the coffin saying,

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"There you are, mate, told you, you're no good. That's it."

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'But Chris plucked up his courage once again to face this next challenge,

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'encouraged by the yachting charity's chairperson, Anna Moreland.'

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Sailability is an organisation that you might find all over the country,

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and basically it will be a group of volunteers who have got together

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to enable anyone with a disability to enjoy sailing.

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'As for Chris, he found that his fears were swept away.'

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The first time I went out on the boats with Sailability,

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it was... Well, it was out of the world.

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The experience you got back, there was an adrenalin buzz,

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and when I came off the water for the very, very first time,

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Anna, she was standing on the pontoon on the side

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and she said I had a grin from one ear to the other.

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That really summed up how I felt inside and outside.

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-Chris, ready to tack?

-Yeah.

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We saw Chris get off the boat with a huge grin on his face.

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And we've seen him ever since. He just loved it.

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He found it had given him all his freedom back that he thought he'd never do again,

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so it was an immediate win for him.

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I tell you what's very clear to me now.

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If Chris didn't have the love from his family

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and the help and assistance from Dorset Blind Association, he would be in a very bad place.

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But I'll tell you what, that man down there has got the biggest smile I've ever seen on anybody's face,

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and he's enjoying life to the full.

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-See you, guys!

-Take care! Bye!

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'Back in the world of the scroungers,

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'the fraud team at HMRC are closing in on the case of Jayne McKnight.

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'She has been claiming to have a part-time job, a disabled husband

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'who's out of work, and three disabled children to care for,

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'which means she's happily banking nearly £30,000 a year

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'in working tax credits, including the childcare element.'

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..which I understand is equivalent to a gross annual salary of £40,000 a year.

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'But the investigators suspect she's up to no good.

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'They need to find out whether her children really are disabled,

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'and whether she's entitled to the money she's been receiving.

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'It was time for HMRC to dig deeper. Back to their undercover operator.'

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We contacted the DWP to see if any claims had ever been received in respect of the four children.

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They confirmed that they had submitted claims.

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However, no claim had ever been paid for any of the children.

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'And why should that matter?'

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If someone isn't registered as disabled with the Department for Work and Pensions,

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then that disqualifies them from claiming any subsequent tax credits related to that.

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So not only is her husband able bodied, it seems there's nothing wrong with her kids, either.

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It looks like McKnight has been telling a few porky-pies.

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'Just because her claim that her husband wasn't working was false,

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'it didn't mean she wasn't actually working herself. Or did it?'

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Because Jayne had said she was working, we started to look at the HMRC PAYE systems.

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And we couldn't find any trace of any tax being paid for Jayne.

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So we approached the employers that she had stated on her claim form.

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'But surely there'd be some tax returns to show for all that work.'

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As a result of our checks, we discovered that Jayne McKnight hadn't actually paid any tax

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for the whole period for which she was claiming tax credits.

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Subsequently we went out to visit these employers

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and they conformed that Jayne McKnight had never worked for them.

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'McKnight was able to claim working tax credit to top up her wages

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'from her low-paid, part-time job.

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'This also meant that she was eligible for the childcare element of working tax credit,

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'to help her pay for childcare costs while she worked.

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'Now, if the job was bogus, what about the childminder?'

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We contacted them, visited them, checked their records

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and they confirmed Jayne McKnight's children had never been registered with that childcare provider,

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and she hadn't incurred the costs she claimed to have done.

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'This was the final piece of evidence the team needed.

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'Incredibly, up to this point, Jayne McKnight had been swindling the system for eight years.'

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-Why didn't you catch her earlier?

-The system was one of pay now, check later.

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Now we would certainly catch her out a lot sooner than we did,

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if she even got any payment in the first place.

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Would it be fair to say you allow too much trust with people?

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I think the system was all about getting the money to people who really needed it when they needed it,

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which was straight away, and maybe, yes, we did put too much trust in people.

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But that doesn't make it right to commit a fraud.

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'It was time to arrest McKnight and confront her with the shameful truth of her deception.'

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A team of officers went along to the house

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to arrest her and also to conduct the search of the premises.

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We were looking for signs of wealth, effectively,

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to see what she could have spent all this money on.

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Other than the obligatory plasma TV, children's game consoles,

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we didn't find any obvious signs of wealth.

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Now, 112 grand must have gone somewhere,

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so what had this greedy so-and-so done with all that cash?

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'All was about to be revealed when the hunt for evidence homed in on the internet.'

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We conducted some social networking checks and discovered that Jayne

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had actually been going to see lots of boy bands.

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'And she was gallivanting all over the country to do it,

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'even making sure she got the pictures to prove it.

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'To the boy bands she idolised, like JLS, Westlife and Boyzone,

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'Jayne McKnight was just another fan.

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'There is no way they could have known she was a fraudster,

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'and neither did the social networking sites she used to show her photos.'

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It's fair to say, in the absence of any obvious signs of wealth in Jayne McKnight's house,

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what the tax credit claims have enabled her to do is effectively act as a groupie,

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following these boy bands around the country, which is no cheap thing to do.

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So this poor, deserving mother of a disabled family

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has actually been hobnobbing with the stars at the expense of you and I, the taxpayer.

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And then she's been rubbing our noses in it on the internet. Unbelievable.

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'Time for her to face the music.'

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In her interview under caution, Jayne McKnight,

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when faced with all the evidence put before her

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admitted that her children weren't disabled,

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her husband wasn't disabled,

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that she'd never worked for the companies she claimed she had

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and that her husband had, in fact always been employed,

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and not unemployed as she'd claimed back in 2004.

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'But just as it seemed she was coming clean,

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'the team uncovered a thieving twist to this fraudster's past.'

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Jayne had a previous offence on her record for committing tax credit fraud and income support fraud.

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She was sentenced to seven months but this was suspended.

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And it is noticeable, actually, that she started committing tax credit fraud

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with HM Revenue and Customs some year or so later.

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'Unbelievable. But I've a feeling this benefit thief

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'is about to get the comeuppance that even she won't be able to ignore.

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'It was time for Jayne McKnight to have her day in court.

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'The jury heard that taking into account both the wages of her husband

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'and the amounts fraudulently claimed in tax credits by Jayne McKnight between 2003 and 2011,

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'the McKnight household pocketed a staggering £250,000.

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'In May 2011, Jayne McKnight pleaded guilty to benefit fraud

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'totalling £112,147

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'one of the highest amounts of individual fraud ever seen.

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'She was sentenced to two years in jail.

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'Charges were not brought against McKnight's husband

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'as there was no evidence that he knew what she was up to.'

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Tax credits are designed to help the most needy in society,

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and what Jayne McKnight has done is steal money from the public purse

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and the government will not tolerate people who commit fraud such as this.

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