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Here in the UK we're lucky enough to have transport networks, legal aid and free healthcare.

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We are very lucky to have an NHS system,

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because a lot of countries, they have to pay for it.

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It's something we should pride ourselves upon.

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These services are mostly paid for by us, the taxpayer,

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and, on the whole, we don't mind.

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But what happens when someone tries to steal from the system?

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If they've stolen it, then, they know they're running a risk,

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so if they get caught, it's a fair cop.

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Well, it's outrageous, disgusting, and needs to be dealt with.

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With the economy as tough as it is, it's more important than ever

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that those who nick from the system don't get away with it,

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and those who need help get it.

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This is the world of Saints And Scroungers.

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Coming up, the scroungers that are out to beat the system.

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A fraudster claiming benefits in one London borough

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turns out to be a successful landlord in the borough next door.

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In October 2009, at the point he claimed housing benefit

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from Barnet Council, he had £311,000.

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And those who rightly deserve a helping hand.

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We meet a man who's struggled to get back to work after losing his sight.

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I thought, if I can get a job working with my hands

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with something I know about, get a qualification,

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I might be able to get some work.

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Life's no picnic on a low income.

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Yeah, you can get help in the form of benefits,

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but very often, any benefit that gives you

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is gobbled up by your outgoings.

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That's why, when people claim to be skint when they're not

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in order to get those benefits...

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well, you'll find that people get annoyed.

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Meet Mohsen Aboudarda. He's been living in the UK for 25 years

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after moving here from Iran, and now lives in Barnet,

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a suburb ten miles northwest of Central London,

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with a population of around 350,000.

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Down on his luck, Aboudarda's been unemployed

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and reliant on benefits since 2009,

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living in just one room of a shared house.

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He was helped out by his local council.

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On his initial claim form submitted to Barnet,

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Aboudarda said that he was living on £85 a week

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employment and support allowance,

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had just £1,000 in the bank, and didn't own any other property.

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The council gave him £90 a week to help pay his rent

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in the form of housing benefit.

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It's pretty straightforward so far, you might think.

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But in February 2011,

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Barnet's anti-fraud team received a referral from Enfield Council,

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regarding a landlord in their borough called Mr Sabet,

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who was living at the same address as Mr Aboudarda in Barnet.

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What really stood out was that the two men shared the same first name.

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Over the years Aboudarda had received over £13,000 in benefit,

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so the fraud investigators were keen to look into the case

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a little further.

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The file ended up on the desk of benefits counter-fraud manager,

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Tony Nash. The question was, were these two people the same person?

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'I've come down to Barnet HQ to find out.'

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So, at the moment we have two names in two different boroughs.

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One's a landlord doing very nicely, thank you.

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The other is a single person needing benefits

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to get a roof over their head.

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How do you start to establish that they might be the same person?

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We initially did a credit check on the name of Aboudarda.

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It come back with links to the name of Mohsen Sabet -

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same date of birth, had bank accounts,

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credit cards and mortgages.

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Following that, we did checks with the banks

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through powers that we are able to do,

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and it again showed further links

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with the names of Aboudarda and Sabet.

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The evidence was good, but still not strong enough

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to prove that Sabet and Aboudarda were in fact the same person.

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The fact they shared the same first name and, now, date of birth was ringing alarm bells, though.

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We then did further checks with Land Registry

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if there were any more properties owned

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in the name of Aboudarda or Sabet.

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'These checks showed that Sabet owned and was the landlord

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'of two houses, one in Oakwood Park,

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'another in Hampshire Road.'

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The searches also showed that Sabet was joint owner

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of a property in Laurel Way.

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So, the landlord Sabet owned three houses,

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and appeared to be renting a room to Aboudarda,

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but something just wasn't right.

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With more information about Sabet,

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the team searched under the name of Aboudarda,

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the name of the benefit claimant who'd told them he was unemployed.

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This search showed that Aboudarda had owned a luggage shop

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on London Road since November 2004.

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A shop-owner on benefits?

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Surely business can't be that bad!

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This shop was not declared on any of his benefit claim forms,

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and set the bells ringing again,

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as he almost certainly had been claiming money

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that he wasn't entitled to. But that wasn't all.

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Under closer inspection of his claim form,

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something even more troubling was discovered.

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On the benefit claim at Laurel Way,

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Mohsen Aboudarda had stated that his letting agents were Century Estates,

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who were at London Road.

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Not only were the shop and the letting agency on the same street,

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they were at the same number.

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But searches showed there were no letting agents at that address.

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It was now obvious that Aboudarda was committing major fraud.

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He had his own shop,

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and was using it to help him scam Barnet Council and local taxpayers

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out of thousands of pounds.

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So, we've got two men living at the same address -

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one man who owns a shop and was more than likely ineligible

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for state support, and another man, a landlord,

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who owns three properties.

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The fraud investigators had two identities with too many links,

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but they needed to confirm 100%

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that they were indeed the same person.

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The property in our area, we found out

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that it was purchased in November 2007

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in the name of Mohsen Sabet and his partner,

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who actually was his wife.

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There's nothing unusual about a couple owning a property together,

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but according to Aboudarda's housing-benefit claim form,

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Sabet's wife was Aboudarda's landlady.

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The evidence was mounting up.

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They have two men who are linked through their first name,

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date of birth, bank statements and credit cards.

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One, Mohsen Sabet, is a property mogul who owns three houses,

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the other, Mohsen Aboudarda,

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a businessman stealing benefits from Barnet Council.

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We'll find out later if the team were able to prove

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the two Mohsens were the same man.

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For now, though, it's time to say farewell to the scroungers

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trying to fleece the system, and hello to those we call our saints,

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people who do everything to make sure that people in need of help,

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who are too proud or simply don't know how to help themselves

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get what they deserve.

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It may be an obvious thing to say,

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but people with normal sight can take for granted

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just how much we need our eyes.

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If something goes wrong with yours,

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it can affect every aspect of your life.

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Imagine, then, how worrying and frustrating it must be

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to lose some of your sight,

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but without anybody being able to tell you why.

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Meet Kevin Smith from London,

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who in the 1980s and early '90s had a successful career as a printer.

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I started on local newspapers. I worked on national newspapers.

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When I saw the way printing was getting cheaper and cheaper,

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I went and worked for a big magazine company.

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The father of two boys, Kevin had everything he'd always wanted.

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But in 1991 life became much more challenging,

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when, aged just 35, he lost the sight in his left eye.

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Fearing the worst, and in shock, Kevin was rushed to hospital.

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I had lots of tests at Atkinson Morley,

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um, Marsden, all of them, loads and loads of tests.

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It was, "We don't know what's happened but you've lost your sight."

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The doctors couldn't tell him any more,

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so Kevin resigned himself to the fact

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he'd never see out of his left eye again.

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Then, to make matters worse, after working solidly for 19 years,

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Kevin was made redundant, and unable to find more printing work,

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as the industry had become much smaller

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thanks to advances in computer technology.

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But Kevin wouldn't give up,

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and refused to let his new disability get in the way.

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I'd had a very small time unemployed, which I didn't like,

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so I got a job as a minicab driver. Chose to work nights,

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hated it, but it got us through with the kids.

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Growing up, it never really affected Kevin's two sons George and Jack.

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I just helped in as many ways as I possibly could, really.

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Then, in 2003, Kevin found his dream job

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working as a ticket inspector on London buses.

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it was a wonderful job.

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My job was to detect and deter fare evasion.

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If they got a fining, well, that kept the fares down.

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Kevin worked for the company for several years,

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and was even able to develop his language skills.

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I speak French, Spanish and Polish - not fluently,

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but sufficient to say, "Look, mate, you haven't got a ticket."

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"We need to deal with this." If you're talking their language,

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and you can talk things through, and next time you see them again -

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cos in London you always do - they've got a proper ticket.

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Having come to terms with the shock of losing the sight in one eye,

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and the fact that no-one could explain why it had happened,

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Kevin had accepted his situation and got on with his life.

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He was working, enjoying his job,

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and it's fair to say he was coping pretty well -

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until, in 2009, suddenly his life changed again.

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My friend Larry lives at Tower Bridge, so we had a pint.

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I got the Tube home, ironed my shirt, got everything ready for the morning,

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went to bed, normal as the day can be.

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And then I woke up and I couldn't see any more.

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Kevin went straight to the doctor's,

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who immediately sent him to hospital.

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Kevin had lost 75% of the vision in his right eye,

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and results showed that he had a condition

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called anterior optic neuropathy,

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which is caused by blocking or damaging of the optic nerves,

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and can be caused by infection, inflammation or trauma.

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They said, "This is what's happened." My optic nerve's been dying,

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er, over the years, and it's finally come to a head.

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Kevin was finding even the most basic day-to-day tasks very difficult.

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Just little things like eating, you know,

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how to judge when a fork's in your meal. In the end you use a spoon.

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and you think, "Oh, no, I did that when I was a baby."

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'That's how life's changed. That's how every single thing's changed.'

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Finding clothes in the morning. You have to put it just so,

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so you know where it is, cos otherwise it's gone.

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He has to think about things a lot more.

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He can't just walk down the street.

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He's got to think about where he's going.

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He needs to learn everything before he does it.

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He can't just go for a walk, because he's going to get lost.

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It's not as easy as that.

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And, of course, Kevin was now unable to do the job he loved.

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Even though the company tried to find him an office-based role,

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it was decided that, after seven years of service,

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aged 54, he should retire.

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That was a bad time. That Christmas was horrible.

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'In lots of ways it was the end of the world,

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'cos I was the wrong age for it to happen. I was on my own in life.'

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All that comradeship from work has gone.

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Having lost his sight and his job,

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Kevin's future was looking uncertain,

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and he found himself living on employment and support allowance

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and housing benefit, something he thought he'd never have to do.

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It should be there if you need it,

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cos there are people who can't deal with life.

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But I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it,

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and I'm not proud or anything like that.

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There's people worse off than me who are more entitled to it.

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To help him get used to coping with life as a blind person,

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it was suggested that Kevin move to a sheltered-housing project.

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The project's run by a charity, and helps people who've lost their sight

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to come to terms with their situation

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and get to grips with the practicalities of being blind.

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'You're with other people that've got the same thing.

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'There's someone showing you how to get on a bus, how to do this, that.'

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They had carers, you know, whatever you needed.

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I did a lot of shouting at them as well,

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but they were used to it. They sort of shouted back in a nice way.

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That's the only way I can describe it. Because of them, I started getting my head together.

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'It was always in the back of my mind that I needed a job.

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'"I can't live like this. I'm bored."'

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It was lovely, you know, talking with people,

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but I found I was going home and thinking,

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"What have you actually achieved today?"

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Kevin had been living in sheltered housing,

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and unhappily claiming benefits, when all he really wanted was a job.

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He did courses in gardening and computing,

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and sent out over a hundred CVs,

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but still only managed to get some temporary part-time work.

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It was a frustrating time, and no matter how hard he tried,

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he just couldn't get a break.

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If he could get a job that's going to support him

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for the foreseeable future, I think he'd be all right, to be honest.

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Little did Kevin know that a chance meeting would change his fortunes.

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I got on the Tube one day. I was going to see a mate.

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There's a beautiful yellow dog on the floor.

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I thought, "That's a guide dog." And when I folded my stick -

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I use a long cane that goes click when I fold it -

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"Whoa, are you blind an' all, mate?" HE LAUGHS

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And we started talking, and I said I was looking for work.

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And he said, "Oh, my firm is always taking disabled people on."

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The place Ricky was talking about was called Clarity,

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set up in 1854 by Elizabeth Gilbert,

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who lost her sight aged three after suffering from scarlet fever.

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She believed in enabling blind and disabled people to help themselves,

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a mission that the charity continues with today.

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Initially, the charity had seven blind employees who made baskets,

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but now has a workforce of 101,

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and manufactures high quality shampoos,

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toiletries and other household products.

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Kevin applied straight away, and was invited to meet Jeremy Robinson,

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the chief executive of Clarity.

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It was obvious at Kevin's interview

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that he really wanted to get back into work.

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He'd gone through a really low period dealing with his sight loss,

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but he really wanted to get started again.

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Kevin was soon accepted onto one of their six-month programmes,

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which aims to give employees the confidence and skills they need to get back to full-time work.

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When Kevin moves on, the experience he's gained -

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things like punctuality, reliability,

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working with team-mates, taking instruction from supervisors,

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will stand him in good stead elsewhere.

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Working two days a week on the production line

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has given Kevin a well deserved boost.

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The job with Clarity is wonderful, because...

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it's got me back into the rhythm of work,

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getting up to go to work.

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I found... We'd work as a pair, and I was able to say to these guys,

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"Come on, we need to do this," and "What about that?"

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and I thought, "Hang on a minute, Kev. You can still do it,

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even though you can't see it."

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Kevin's time working on the factory floor

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has not only helped him to get his confidence back,

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it's helped him to grow in other ways, too.

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They've helped me come to terms with my disability, big time,

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cos everyone's disabled there, and I realised that I'm not alone.

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I'm not alone, and I'm not just going home thinking,

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"Well, the whole world's against me." It's not.

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Not only does the charity provide opportunities for blind people,

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it helps them to prepare for the future

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when they're ready to move on.

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The skills that people are taught here

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are a variety of production and administration tasks.

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They are also helped in terms of their welfare.

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Often people who are visually impaired

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have difficulty filling in forms or talking to the council,

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local authority, etc. So we work on their workplace skills

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and also their skills for life,

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and when people are ready and able to look for work beyond Clarity,

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we help with job-search activities,

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and all the things you would need to secure the next job.

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It's an organisation that's certainly helped Kevin.

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I've got my confidence back. I didn't think anyone would want to employ me,

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you know, sort of, this old boy who can't see very much.

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I know that, sooner or later, there's a job coming.

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My dad will be an asset to any company. He's friendly,

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nice guy, works hard...

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He can speak about four different languages, which is always handy,

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so he's a good guy to have, I'd say.

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HE LAUGHS

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It's fair to say that Kevin's life changed overnight, and when it did,

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he simply refused to let his situation get the better of him.

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He didn't want to depend on benefits,

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and he wanted to live the life he was living before he lost his sight.

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Thanks to the right people who could give him the right kind of help,

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Kevin's got every reason to be optimistic about the future.

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Time now to return to the world of the scrounger,

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those people who are only too happy ripping off the country's taxpayer.

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Barnet Council were on the tail of Mohsen Sabet

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and Mohsen Aboudarda, two men they believed to be the same person,

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and who could potentially have scammed them

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for over £35,500 in benefits.

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We initially did a credit check on the name of Aboudarda.

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It come back with links to the name of Mohsen Sabet -

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same date of birth, had bank accounts,

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credit cards and mortgages.

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Mohsen Sabet is a landlord owning three houses.

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Mohsen Aboudarda has been claiming benefits since 2004,

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but fraud investigator Tony Nash and his team have discovered

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he's a businessman and has his own luggage shop.

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The team now needs to prove conclusively

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that these two men are one and the same.

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Working alongside Tony is Clair Green,

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who got in touch with the passport office.

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We established from them

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that Aboudarda had requested a replacement passport back in 2004.

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He'd requested the replacement passport in the name Mohsen Sabet,

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and to them he'd provided evidence of his change of name

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through a deed-poll document.

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This was the most significant piece of evidence that we'd got so far.

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This was the piece of evidence that proved

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that they were in fact the same person.

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With their suspicions confirmed, Clair was able to look further back

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into Sabet and Aboudarda's affairs.

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Now that we knew he was the same person,

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we went back to the credit-check search,

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which indicated a number of bank accounts in both names,

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and we used our powers under Social Security Fraud Act

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to obtain statements from all of the different bank accounts.

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No fewer than 18 bank accounts across the two identities -

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perhaps more than you might expect from your average benefit claimant,

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and a lot more than the two he'd declared on his benefit claim forms.

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When we got these bank accounts back, they was very interesting indeed.

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It showed us that, back in 2004,

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Mr Sabet, or Mr Aboudarda, combined amounts

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that had a significant amount of money in the bank.

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2007, we've got a figure of almost 822,000 in the bank account,

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and in October 2009, at the point he claimed housing benefit

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from Barnet Council, he had £311,000,

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which was a bit different to what he'd declared on his claim form.

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We already knew that Sabet the landlord, in Enfield,

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was a businessman and had a business in Enfield.

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Now that we'd linked the two people to be the one and the same person,

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we started looking into the business interests in a lot more detail.

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We linked that to the financial records and the bank accounts,

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and it actually revealed that he was running two luggage shops,

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one in Enfield and one in Haringey.

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So now we have a man who owns three houses,

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two luggage shops, and once had nearly a million pounds in the bank,

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yet he has the cheek to claim he needs government help.

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Clair got on the phone to the Department for Work and Pensions,

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who also launched an investigation,

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and between them, the two organisations discovered

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Mohsen Aboudarda had been playing the system since 2004,

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coincidentally the same year he bought his luggage shop

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on London Road.

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He'd claimed nearly 1,500 from Enfield Council,

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over 6,500 from Barnet Council,

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and over 12,500 from Haringey Council

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in housing benefit and council-tax benefit that he wasn't entitled to.

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He also fleeced the Department for Work and Pensions

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for over 4,000 in income support,

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and nearly 11,000 in employment and support allowance.

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That's a whopping £35,500 whipped from the public purse.

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Sabet and his alter ego, Mohsen Aboudarda,

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had some serious questions to answer,

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so the DWP invited Aboudarda in for an interview under caution.

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But he told them he wasn't able to attend,

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as he'd found work in a factory in Iran

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and would be away for some time.

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Barnet's fraud team didn't believe he'd left the country,

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and decided to carry on with their investigations.

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At 7:15 AM on the 26th of July 2011,

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the council investigators, the DWP and the Metropolitan Police

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decided to pay a visit to the house he owned with his wife in Barnet.

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-Morning, madam.

-Morning.

-Mr Sabet upstairs?

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There was no response at first,

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and eventually a lady came to the door,

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and we asked if Mr Aboudarda was there. She said no.

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The woman was Sabet's wife,

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who told the officers that he was away in Iran,

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and she didn't know when he would be back.

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But the officers had a warrant, and were able to search the property.

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We entered the property. It was immediately noticeable

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that the property was in excellent condition,

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very plush indeed.

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And it appeared that Sabet was a little bit closer to home

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than his wife had led the investigators to believe.

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We did a search of the premises,

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and Mr Aboudarda was found

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hiding under the bed in the main bedroom.

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Oh, dear - the indignity of it!

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Surely he could have found himself a large suitcase to hide in.

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That would've been a better bet.

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He was arrested, and then a search was done of the premises.

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Numerous bank accounts were found in the name of both Mohsen Aboudarda,

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Mohsen Sabet.

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There were bank cards, bank statements in business names.

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There was also lots of money found at the property.

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So you've got the guy. You can start asking him some questions now.

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Yes. We went back to the police station

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and interviewed him under caution.

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Tony and the other investigators started questioning Aboudarda

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about why he was using two names,

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but he was very vague with this and all of his answers.

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During the raid of his house in Barnet,

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the officers found details of bank accounts,

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and could see that large amounts of money

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were coming in and going out,

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but even with the bank statements in front of him,

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he was still vague about his finances when questioned.

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Sabet didn't seem to be able to give a straight answer

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to any of the investigators,

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and he even tried to deny owning the luggage shop under his other name.

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So the truth, but not all the truth. A long way from the whole truth.

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Yeah, a very long way from the whole truth.

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Sabet may have been laughing in his interview under caution,

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but now he'd have to keep a straight face in front of the judge.

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A wealthy business and property owner

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who had absolutely no need to claim money from the taxpayer was about to face the music.

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On 7th of March, 2013,

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Mohsen Sabet was sentenced to nine months' imprisonment

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for ten counts of benefit fraud,

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totalling £36,000,

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against the London Borough of Barnet,

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London Borough of Haringey and Enfield, and the DWP.

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When asked why he'd tried to cheat the system,

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Sabet said he did it because he could.

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Sabet's wife was not linked to or implicated in any of his crimes.

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Under the Proceeds of Crime Act, a confiscation order was granted.

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This means that Mohsen Sabet's assets will be frozen

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and can be sold to recover and repay the money

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that he stole from the taxpaying public.

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'The order also gives Barnet Council the power

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'to confiscate any money that Sabet cannot prove

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'he legitimately earned,

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'putting even more money back into the public purse.'

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So it ensures that, you know, crime doesn't pay for them.

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They don't benefit from their criminal activity.

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Whatever Sabet's reasons for trying to defraud the councils

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of North London and the DWP,

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we can rest assured that the Barnet fraud team won't stop

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until he's repaid every penny that he owes.

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Sabet had it all -

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his own successful business and his own home,

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things that people would give their right arms for

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and which take a lifetime of honest endeavour.

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But it wasn't enough. He wanted more,

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and now he's got nine months to work out what he's going to do next,

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and for the council to work out just how much he's going to pay back.

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