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Here in the UK we're lucky enough to have transport networks, legal aid and free healthcare. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
We are very lucky to have an NHS system, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
because a lot of countries, they have to pay for it. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
It's something we should pride ourselves upon. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
These services are mostly paid for by us, the taxpayer, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
and, on the whole, we don't mind. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
But what happens when someone tries to steal from the system? | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
If they've stolen it, then, they know they're running a risk, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
so if they get caught, it's a fair cop. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Well, it's outrageous, disgusting, and needs to be dealt with. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
With the economy as tough as it is, it's more important than ever | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
that those who nick from the system don't get away with it, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
and those who need help get it. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
This is the world of Saints And Scroungers. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Coming up, the scroungers that are out to beat the system. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
A fraudster claiming benefits in one London borough | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
turns out to be a successful landlord in the borough next door. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
In October 2009, at the point he claimed housing benefit | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
from Barnet Council, he had £311,000. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
And those who rightly deserve a helping hand. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
We meet a man who's struggled to get back to work after losing his sight. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
I thought, if I can get a job working with my hands | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
with something I know about, get a qualification, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
I might be able to get some work. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Life's no picnic on a low income. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Yeah, you can get help in the form of benefits, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
but very often, any benefit that gives you | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
is gobbled up by your outgoings. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
That's why, when people claim to be skint when they're not | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
in order to get those benefits... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
well, you'll find that people get annoyed. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
Meet Mohsen Aboudarda. He's been living in the UK for 25 years | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
after moving here from Iran, and now lives in Barnet, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
a suburb ten miles northwest of Central London, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
with a population of around 350,000. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Down on his luck, Aboudarda's been unemployed | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and reliant on benefits since 2009, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
living in just one room of a shared house. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
He was helped out by his local council. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
On his initial claim form submitted to Barnet, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Aboudarda said that he was living on £85 a week | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
employment and support allowance, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
had just £1,000 in the bank, and didn't own any other property. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
The council gave him £90 a week to help pay his rent | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
in the form of housing benefit. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
It's pretty straightforward so far, you might think. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
But in February 2011, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Barnet's anti-fraud team received a referral from Enfield Council, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
regarding a landlord in their borough called Mr Sabet, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
who was living at the same address as Mr Aboudarda in Barnet. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
What really stood out was that the two men shared the same first name. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Over the years Aboudarda had received over £13,000 in benefit, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
so the fraud investigators were keen to look into the case | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
a little further. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
The file ended up on the desk of benefits counter-fraud manager, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Tony Nash. The question was, were these two people the same person? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
'I've come down to Barnet HQ to find out.' | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
So, at the moment we have two names in two different boroughs. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
One's a landlord doing very nicely, thank you. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
The other is a single person needing benefits | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
to get a roof over their head. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
How do you start to establish that they might be the same person? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
We initially did a credit check on the name of Aboudarda. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
It come back with links to the name of Mohsen Sabet - | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
same date of birth, had bank accounts, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
credit cards and mortgages. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Following that, we did checks with the banks | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
through powers that we are able to do, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
and it again showed further links | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
with the names of Aboudarda and Sabet. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
The evidence was good, but still not strong enough | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
to prove that Sabet and Aboudarda were in fact the same person. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
The fact they shared the same first name and, now, date of birth was ringing alarm bells, though. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
We then did further checks with Land Registry | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
if there were any more properties owned | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
in the name of Aboudarda or Sabet. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
'These checks showed that Sabet owned and was the landlord | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
'of two houses, one in Oakwood Park, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
'another in Hampshire Road.' | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
The searches also showed that Sabet was joint owner | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
of a property in Laurel Way. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
So, the landlord Sabet owned three houses, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
and appeared to be renting a room to Aboudarda, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
but something just wasn't right. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
With more information about Sabet, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
the team searched under the name of Aboudarda, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
the name of the benefit claimant who'd told them he was unemployed. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
This search showed that Aboudarda had owned a luggage shop | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
on London Road since November 2004. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
A shop-owner on benefits? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Surely business can't be that bad! | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
This shop was not declared on any of his benefit claim forms, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
and set the bells ringing again, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
as he almost certainly had been claiming money | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
that he wasn't entitled to. But that wasn't all. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Under closer inspection of his claim form, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
something even more troubling was discovered. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
On the benefit claim at Laurel Way, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Mohsen Aboudarda had stated that his letting agents were Century Estates, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
who were at London Road. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Not only were the shop and the letting agency on the same street, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
they were at the same number. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
But searches showed there were no letting agents at that address. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
It was now obvious that Aboudarda was committing major fraud. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
He had his own shop, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
and was using it to help him scam Barnet Council and local taxpayers | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
out of thousands of pounds. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
So, we've got two men living at the same address - | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
one man who owns a shop and was more than likely ineligible | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
for state support, and another man, a landlord, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
who owns three properties. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
The fraud investigators had two identities with too many links, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
but they needed to confirm 100% | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
that they were indeed the same person. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
The property in our area, we found out | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
that it was purchased in November 2007 | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
in the name of Mohsen Sabet and his partner, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
who actually was his wife. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
There's nothing unusual about a couple owning a property together, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
but according to Aboudarda's housing-benefit claim form, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Sabet's wife was Aboudarda's landlady. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
The evidence was mounting up. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
They have two men who are linked through their first name, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
date of birth, bank statements and credit cards. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
One, Mohsen Sabet, is a property mogul who owns three houses, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
the other, Mohsen Aboudarda, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
a businessman stealing benefits from Barnet Council. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
We'll find out later if the team were able to prove | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
the two Mohsens were the same man. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
For now, though, it's time to say farewell to the scroungers | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
trying to fleece the system, and hello to those we call our saints, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
people who do everything to make sure that people in need of help, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
who are too proud or simply don't know how to help themselves | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
get what they deserve. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
It may be an obvious thing to say, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
but people with normal sight can take for granted | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
just how much we need our eyes. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
If something goes wrong with yours, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
it can affect every aspect of your life. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Imagine, then, how worrying and frustrating it must be | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
to lose some of your sight, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
but without anybody being able to tell you why. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
Meet Kevin Smith from London, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
who in the 1980s and early '90s had a successful career as a printer. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
I started on local newspapers. I worked on national newspapers. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
When I saw the way printing was getting cheaper and cheaper, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
I went and worked for a big magazine company. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
The father of two boys, Kevin had everything he'd always wanted. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
But in 1991 life became much more challenging, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
when, aged just 35, he lost the sight in his left eye. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
Fearing the worst, and in shock, Kevin was rushed to hospital. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
I had lots of tests at Atkinson Morley, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
um, Marsden, all of them, loads and loads of tests. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
It was, "We don't know what's happened but you've lost your sight." | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
The doctors couldn't tell him any more, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
so Kevin resigned himself to the fact | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
he'd never see out of his left eye again. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Then, to make matters worse, after working solidly for 19 years, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Kevin was made redundant, and unable to find more printing work, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
as the industry had become much smaller | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
thanks to advances in computer technology. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
But Kevin wouldn't give up, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
and refused to let his new disability get in the way. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
I'd had a very small time unemployed, which I didn't like, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
so I got a job as a minicab driver. Chose to work nights, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
hated it, but it got us through with the kids. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Growing up, it never really affected Kevin's two sons George and Jack. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
I just helped in as many ways as I possibly could, really. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Then, in 2003, Kevin found his dream job | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
working as a ticket inspector on London buses. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
it was a wonderful job. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
My job was to detect and deter fare evasion. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
If they got a fining, well, that kept the fares down. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Kevin worked for the company for several years, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
and was even able to develop his language skills. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I speak French, Spanish and Polish - not fluently, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
but sufficient to say, "Look, mate, you haven't got a ticket." | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
"We need to deal with this." If you're talking their language, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
and you can talk things through, and next time you see them again - | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
cos in London you always do - they've got a proper ticket. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Having come to terms with the shock of losing the sight in one eye, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
and the fact that no-one could explain why it had happened, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Kevin had accepted his situation and got on with his life. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
He was working, enjoying his job, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
and it's fair to say he was coping pretty well - | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
until, in 2009, suddenly his life changed again. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
My friend Larry lives at Tower Bridge, so we had a pint. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
I got the Tube home, ironed my shirt, got everything ready for the morning, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
went to bed, normal as the day can be. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
And then I woke up and I couldn't see any more. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Kevin went straight to the doctor's, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
who immediately sent him to hospital. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Kevin had lost 75% of the vision in his right eye, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
and results showed that he had a condition | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
called anterior optic neuropathy, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
which is caused by blocking or damaging of the optic nerves, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
and can be caused by infection, inflammation or trauma. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
They said, "This is what's happened." My optic nerve's been dying, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
er, over the years, and it's finally come to a head. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
Kevin was finding even the most basic day-to-day tasks very difficult. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Just little things like eating, you know, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
how to judge when a fork's in your meal. In the end you use a spoon. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
and you think, "Oh, no, I did that when I was a baby." | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
'That's how life's changed. That's how every single thing's changed.' | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
Finding clothes in the morning. You have to put it just so, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
so you know where it is, cos otherwise it's gone. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
He has to think about things a lot more. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
He can't just walk down the street. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
He's got to think about where he's going. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
He needs to learn everything before he does it. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
He can't just go for a walk, because he's going to get lost. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
It's not as easy as that. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
And, of course, Kevin was now unable to do the job he loved. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Even though the company tried to find him an office-based role, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
it was decided that, after seven years of service, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
aged 54, he should retire. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
That was a bad time. That Christmas was horrible. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
'In lots of ways it was the end of the world, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
'cos I was the wrong age for it to happen. I was on my own in life.' | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
All that comradeship from work has gone. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Having lost his sight and his job, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Kevin's future was looking uncertain, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
and he found himself living on employment and support allowance | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and housing benefit, something he thought he'd never have to do. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
It should be there if you need it, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
cos there are people who can't deal with life. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
But I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and I'm not proud or anything like that. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
There's people worse off than me who are more entitled to it. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
To help him get used to coping with life as a blind person, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
it was suggested that Kevin move to a sheltered-housing project. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
The project's run by a charity, and helps people who've lost their sight | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
to come to terms with their situation | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
and get to grips with the practicalities of being blind. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
'You're with other people that've got the same thing. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
'There's someone showing you how to get on a bus, how to do this, that.' | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
They had carers, you know, whatever you needed. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
I did a lot of shouting at them as well, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
but they were used to it. They sort of shouted back in a nice way. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
That's the only way I can describe it. Because of them, I started getting my head together. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
'It was always in the back of my mind that I needed a job. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
'"I can't live like this. I'm bored."' | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
It was lovely, you know, talking with people, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
but I found I was going home and thinking, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
"What have you actually achieved today?" | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Kevin had been living in sheltered housing, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
and unhappily claiming benefits, when all he really wanted was a job. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
He did courses in gardening and computing, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
and sent out over a hundred CVs, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
but still only managed to get some temporary part-time work. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
It was a frustrating time, and no matter how hard he tried, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
he just couldn't get a break. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
If he could get a job that's going to support him | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
for the foreseeable future, I think he'd be all right, to be honest. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Little did Kevin know that a chance meeting would change his fortunes. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
I got on the Tube one day. I was going to see a mate. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
There's a beautiful yellow dog on the floor. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I thought, "That's a guide dog." And when I folded my stick - | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I use a long cane that goes click when I fold it - | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
"Whoa, are you blind an' all, mate?" HE LAUGHS | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
And we started talking, and I said I was looking for work. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
And he said, "Oh, my firm is always taking disabled people on." | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
The place Ricky was talking about was called Clarity, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
set up in 1854 by Elizabeth Gilbert, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
who lost her sight aged three after suffering from scarlet fever. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
She believed in enabling blind and disabled people to help themselves, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
a mission that the charity continues with today. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Initially, the charity had seven blind employees who made baskets, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
but now has a workforce of 101, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and manufactures high quality shampoos, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
toiletries and other household products. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Kevin applied straight away, and was invited to meet Jeremy Robinson, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
the chief executive of Clarity. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
It was obvious at Kevin's interview | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
that he really wanted to get back into work. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
He'd gone through a really low period dealing with his sight loss, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
but he really wanted to get started again. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Kevin was soon accepted onto one of their six-month programmes, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
which aims to give employees the confidence and skills they need to get back to full-time work. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:19 | |
When Kevin moves on, the experience he's gained - | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
things like punctuality, reliability, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
working with team-mates, taking instruction from supervisors, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
will stand him in good stead elsewhere. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Working two days a week on the production line | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
has given Kevin a well deserved boost. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
The job with Clarity is wonderful, because... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
it's got me back into the rhythm of work, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
getting up to go to work. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
I found... We'd work as a pair, and I was able to say to these guys, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
"Come on, we need to do this," and "What about that?" | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and I thought, "Hang on a minute, Kev. You can still do it, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
even though you can't see it." | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Kevin's time working on the factory floor | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
has not only helped him to get his confidence back, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
it's helped him to grow in other ways, too. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
They've helped me come to terms with my disability, big time, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
cos everyone's disabled there, and I realised that I'm not alone. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
I'm not alone, and I'm not just going home thinking, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
"Well, the whole world's against me." It's not. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Not only does the charity provide opportunities for blind people, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
it helps them to prepare for the future | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
when they're ready to move on. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
The skills that people are taught here | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
are a variety of production and administration tasks. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
They are also helped in terms of their welfare. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
Often people who are visually impaired | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
have difficulty filling in forms or talking to the council, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
local authority, etc. So we work on their workplace skills | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
and also their skills for life, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
and when people are ready and able to look for work beyond Clarity, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
we help with job-search activities, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
and all the things you would need to secure the next job. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
It's an organisation that's certainly helped Kevin. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
I've got my confidence back. I didn't think anyone would want to employ me, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
you know, sort of, this old boy who can't see very much. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
I know that, sooner or later, there's a job coming. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
My dad will be an asset to any company. He's friendly, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
nice guy, works hard... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
He can speak about four different languages, which is always handy, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
so he's a good guy to have, I'd say. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
It's fair to say that Kevin's life changed overnight, and when it did, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
he simply refused to let his situation get the better of him. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
He didn't want to depend on benefits, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
and he wanted to live the life he was living before he lost his sight. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
Thanks to the right people who could give him the right kind of help, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Kevin's got every reason to be optimistic about the future. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
Time now to return to the world of the scrounger, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
those people who are only too happy ripping off the country's taxpayer. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Barnet Council were on the tail of Mohsen Sabet | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
and Mohsen Aboudarda, two men they believed to be the same person, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and who could potentially have scammed them | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
for over £35,500 in benefits. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
We initially did a credit check on the name of Aboudarda. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
It come back with links to the name of Mohsen Sabet - | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
same date of birth, had bank accounts, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
credit cards and mortgages. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Mohsen Sabet is a landlord owning three houses. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Mohsen Aboudarda has been claiming benefits since 2004, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
but fraud investigator Tony Nash and his team have discovered | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
he's a businessman and has his own luggage shop. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The team now needs to prove conclusively | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
that these two men are one and the same. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Working alongside Tony is Clair Green, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
who got in touch with the passport office. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
We established from them | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
that Aboudarda had requested a replacement passport back in 2004. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
He'd requested the replacement passport in the name Mohsen Sabet, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
and to them he'd provided evidence of his change of name | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
through a deed-poll document. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
This was the most significant piece of evidence that we'd got so far. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
This was the piece of evidence that proved | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
that they were in fact the same person. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
With their suspicions confirmed, Clair was able to look further back | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
into Sabet and Aboudarda's affairs. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Now that we knew he was the same person, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
we went back to the credit-check search, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
which indicated a number of bank accounts in both names, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
and we used our powers under Social Security Fraud Act | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
to obtain statements from all of the different bank accounts. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
No fewer than 18 bank accounts across the two identities - | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
perhaps more than you might expect from your average benefit claimant, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
and a lot more than the two he'd declared on his benefit claim forms. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
When we got these bank accounts back, they was very interesting indeed. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
It showed us that, back in 2004, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Mr Sabet, or Mr Aboudarda, combined amounts | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
that had a significant amount of money in the bank. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
2007, we've got a figure of almost 822,000 in the bank account, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
and in October 2009, at the point he claimed housing benefit | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
from Barnet Council, he had £311,000, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
which was a bit different to what he'd declared on his claim form. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
We already knew that Sabet the landlord, in Enfield, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
was a businessman and had a business in Enfield. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Now that we'd linked the two people to be the one and the same person, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
we started looking into the business interests in a lot more detail. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
We linked that to the financial records and the bank accounts, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
and it actually revealed that he was running two luggage shops, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
one in Enfield and one in Haringey. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
So now we have a man who owns three houses, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
two luggage shops, and once had nearly a million pounds in the bank, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
yet he has the cheek to claim he needs government help. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Clair got on the phone to the Department for Work and Pensions, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
who also launched an investigation, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
and between them, the two organisations discovered | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
Mohsen Aboudarda had been playing the system since 2004, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
coincidentally the same year he bought his luggage shop | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
on London Road. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
He'd claimed nearly 1,500 from Enfield Council, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
over 6,500 from Barnet Council, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
and over 12,500 from Haringey Council | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
in housing benefit and council-tax benefit that he wasn't entitled to. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
He also fleeced the Department for Work and Pensions | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
for over 4,000 in income support, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
and nearly 11,000 in employment and support allowance. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
That's a whopping £35,500 whipped from the public purse. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
Sabet and his alter ego, Mohsen Aboudarda, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
had some serious questions to answer, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
so the DWP invited Aboudarda in for an interview under caution. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
But he told them he wasn't able to attend, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
as he'd found work in a factory in Iran | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
and would be away for some time. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
Barnet's fraud team didn't believe he'd left the country, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
and decided to carry on with their investigations. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
At 7:15 AM on the 26th of July 2011, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
the council investigators, the DWP and the Metropolitan Police | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
decided to pay a visit to the house he owned with his wife in Barnet. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-Morning, madam. -Morning. -Mr Sabet upstairs? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
There was no response at first, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
and eventually a lady came to the door, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
and we asked if Mr Aboudarda was there. She said no. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
The woman was Sabet's wife, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
who told the officers that he was away in Iran, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
and she didn't know when he would be back. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
But the officers had a warrant, and were able to search the property. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
We entered the property. It was immediately noticeable | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
that the property was in excellent condition, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
very plush indeed. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
And it appeared that Sabet was a little bit closer to home | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
than his wife had led the investigators to believe. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
We did a search of the premises, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and Mr Aboudarda was found | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
hiding under the bed in the main bedroom. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Oh, dear - the indignity of it! | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Surely he could have found himself a large suitcase to hide in. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
That would've been a better bet. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
He was arrested, and then a search was done of the premises. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
Numerous bank accounts were found in the name of both Mohsen Aboudarda, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
Mohsen Sabet. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
There were bank cards, bank statements in business names. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
There was also lots of money found at the property. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
So you've got the guy. You can start asking him some questions now. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Yes. We went back to the police station | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
and interviewed him under caution. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Tony and the other investigators started questioning Aboudarda | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
about why he was using two names, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
but he was very vague with this and all of his answers. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
During the raid of his house in Barnet, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
the officers found details of bank accounts, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
and could see that large amounts of money | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
were coming in and going out, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
but even with the bank statements in front of him, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
he was still vague about his finances when questioned. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Sabet didn't seem to be able to give a straight answer | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
to any of the investigators, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
and he even tried to deny owning the luggage shop under his other name. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
So the truth, but not all the truth. A long way from the whole truth. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
Yeah, a very long way from the whole truth. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Sabet may have been laughing in his interview under caution, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
but now he'd have to keep a straight face in front of the judge. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
A wealthy business and property owner | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
who had absolutely no need to claim money from the taxpayer was about to face the music. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
On 7th of March, 2013, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Mohsen Sabet was sentenced to nine months' imprisonment | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
for ten counts of benefit fraud, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
totalling £36,000, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
against the London Borough of Barnet, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
London Borough of Haringey and Enfield, and the DWP. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
When asked why he'd tried to cheat the system, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Sabet said he did it because he could. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
Sabet's wife was not linked to or implicated in any of his crimes. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
Under the Proceeds of Crime Act, a confiscation order was granted. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
This means that Mohsen Sabet's assets will be frozen | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
and can be sold to recover and repay the money | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
that he stole from the taxpaying public. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
'The order also gives Barnet Council the power | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
'to confiscate any money that Sabet cannot prove | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
'he legitimately earned, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
'putting even more money back into the public purse.' | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
So it ensures that, you know, crime doesn't pay for them. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
They don't benefit from their criminal activity. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
Whatever Sabet's reasons for trying to defraud the councils | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
of North London and the DWP, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
we can rest assured that the Barnet fraud team won't stop | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
until he's repaid every penny that he owes. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Sabet had it all - | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
his own successful business and his own home, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
things that people would give their right arms for | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
and which take a lifetime of honest endeavour. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
But it wasn't enough. He wanted more, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and now he's got nine months to work out what he's going to do next, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
and for the council to work out just how much he's going to pay back. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 |