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What would you do if you had a bad run of luck? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
The chances are that you'd end up turning to government agencies for a bit of help. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
We're very lucky to have a welfare state | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
and I think a lot of people don't appreciate it. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
My husband is disabled. Without the benefit system, we would've found things difficult. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Here in the UK, millions of us need to ask for help every year | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
in the form of benefits, legal aid and healthcare, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
but there are some people who are out there to cheat the system out of as much as they can. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
Benefit cheats are criminals | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
and they should be treated accordingly. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
How are these people managing to get away with this? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
But those people who are trying to get rich from the public purse | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
are now being sniffed out by investigators, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
who want to make sure that as much money as possible | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
is available to those who need it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
This is the world of Saints And Scroungers. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Coming up, the scroungers out to beat the system... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
A single mum on benefits with hundreds of thousands of pounds in the bank... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Rashpal had just over £270,000 in her bank. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
A lot of the money seemed to be going towards building up a property portfolio, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
both here in the UK and abroad. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
And we meet someone who rightly deserves a helping hand - | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
a young man trying to pull his life together | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
after battling with drink and drugs. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
It just felt absolutely unreal. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
I felt as if, "How can I possibly carry on? How can I pick this up?" | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
There was no way I could see... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
of getting any help of going anywhere in life. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Now, we all need a roof over our heads, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
and while many of us are lucky enough to own our own homes, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
there are some people who need help paying the rent. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
If it's the council that's providing that help, though, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
you've got to be honest with them. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
In Sandwell in the West Midlands, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
the drive to clamp down on housing benefit cheats comes from the very top. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
We have a zero-tolerance approach to fraud. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
For many people in Sandwell | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
who don't claim what they're entitled to, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
we help them to get what they are, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
but for those people who commit tenancy fraud, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I'm interested in making sure that all of those issues are dealt with. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
The council's Fraud Team regularly scrutinises benefit claims in proactive initiatives, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:33 | |
and it was during one of these exercises they came across a very unusual case. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
Meet 45-year-old Rashpal Kaur, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
a single mother living on income support | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and receiving housing and council tax benefit | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
from Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
She appeared to be the kind of person that taxpayers should be giving a helping hand to. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
Rashpal had been claiming benefits since 1995. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
She was claiming as a single, unemployed mother with one child. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
On the forms completed for the council for housing benefit, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Rashpal stated that she wasn't related to the landlords in any way, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and neither were her children. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Between 2003 and 2007, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Rashpal Kaur received nearly £25,000 in housing benefit. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Nothing seemed to be wrong with her claim, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
until fraud investigators launched a specific drive | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
into a type of benefit payment that she was being given. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Ian Scarrett was in charge of the team that looked into her case. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
We'd identified a couple of cases | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
where landlords were related to tenants | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
and that hadn't been declared. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
What we thought we would do would be to carry out a fraud drive | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
to look at people who... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
who may be related to the landlord in some way. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
After trawling through housing benefits files | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
looking for signs of unusual tenancy agreements, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Rashpal pinged up on the investigators' radar. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
Rashpal Kaur was interesting to the council | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
because she'd been at the property for a number of years, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
the rent continued to be the same figure | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
and the landlord had changed in that time | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
and we hadn't had notification of it. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
Rashpal was married but separated from her husband. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
As a single parent, she'd been claiming benefits for over a decade. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
She'd filled in two applications for housing and council tax benefit | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
from two addresses in Sandwell, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
one for St Christopher Close | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
and the other in Europa Avenue. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
The investigators' initial enquiries focused on finding out | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
exactly who owned these properties. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
We didn't have application forms for Rashpal going back to '95, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
so we were only able to get evidence from 2003. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
And Ian's team didn't waste any time in doing just that. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
Rashpal had received nearly 25 grand in housing benefit | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
from Sandwell Council since 2003. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
The investigators needed to make sure that this claim was legit. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
Once we looked at Rashpal Kaur and were suspicious about her claim, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
there were several different checks | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
that we would carry out simultaneously | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
to enable us to make a decision as to whether there was | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
further information we'd need - | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
things like birth certificates, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
credit checks, Land Registry checks. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Investigators were searching for any evidence that might support | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
their hunch that Rashpal's circumstances were not exactly as set out on her claim form. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
It wasn't long before they did. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
The credit check that we received | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
showed that she'd got joint credit with a male. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
She hadn't declared a male as living at the property. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
We checked the male's details at the address | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
and he came up as having applied for credit in his own right | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
and with a partner - Rashpal. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Hold on! A man was claiming to be living at her address | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
when she was meant to be single! | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
The name on the credit forms was her estranged husband, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
but he was meant to be out of the picture. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Alarm bells started to ring for the investigators | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
and further checks were needed. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
The Land Registry check for the two addresses | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
showed people that we were then aware of | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
were either related to Rashpal, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
either by being the father of her, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
or the brother of her, or married to her. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Over the years, the two properties that Rashpal had been using | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
to claim benefits from | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
had changed ownership a number of times. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
Her home at St Christopher Close was owned individually and jointly by her father and husband, | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
and her home at Europa Avenue was owned at different times | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
by her father and brother and her father and husband. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
It was time for investigators to do what they do best - | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
dig a bit deeper. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
We carried out some checks, birth certificate checks, firstly on Rashpal, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
and that showed details of her parents. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
That was interesting to us | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
because the father was regularly the landlord | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
or the owner of the two properties that she was living in. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Further checks showed that a second owner, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
or joint owner of the property, was her husband, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
and we were able to confirm that | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
by getting a marriage certificate which showed those details. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
So it turns out that Rashpal's landlord is in fact her dad. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
No, hold on, it's her brother. No, it's her husband! | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
I've heard of married couples having set-tos, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
but charging your wife rent... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Well, that's harsh! | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Rashpal's claims that her husband | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
was not involved in her life any more now looked ridiculous. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
Investigators suspected that she'd given nearly £25,000 | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
of housing benefit money directly to her family. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
If true, she could potentially be making a fraudulent claim to the council. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
The Fraud Team decided it was time to ask her to come in | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
for an interview under caution. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
We sent her out three interview requests | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
and she didn't attend any of them. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Once Rashpal didn't attend the interview | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
it gave us no option, as far as we were concerned, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
as to find out where that money was going, whether it was properly being used for rent. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
The only way to do that was to check the bank account we were paying the money to, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
to see what was happening to it. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
Ian's team used their authorised powers | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
to carry out a detailed examination of Rashpal's bank records. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Normally, we'd expect to see the money coming in from the council | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
the one day and perhaps a few days later, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
that money, the same amount, going out to the landlord. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
That would be what we would expect to see. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
With Rashpal, we saw the money going into her account | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and then it would sit in the account | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
and be used for general day-to-day expenses. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
On the face of the bank statements, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
it appeared that there was no rent being paid. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
No rent at all? So nearly £25,000 of taxpayers' money | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
she was getting to keep a roof over her head | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
was being spent on everything else but. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
So, where was it going? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
With Rashpal refusing to answer any questions, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
investigators kept digging into her financial affairs | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
and made a shocking discovery. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
We were aware of one bank account, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
which is where we paid our rent to Rashpal. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
When we contacted that bank, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
they advised us there was a number of other bank accounts | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
which we were unaware of. | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
A single mum on benefits with secret bank accounts? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
It looked like investigators | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
had unearthed a very sophisticated fraud. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
But what was going on? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Ian's team started the mammoth task of gathering information | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
about where the money in Rashpal's accounts was coming from | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and what else she was doing. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
We found that Rashpal had another eight accounts | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
which she hadn't declared to us at all, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
and these all had money running through them. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Eight bank accounts? Who has eight bank accounts? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Rashpal had been given over £25,000 from the council, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
but had any of this money been siphoned off | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
into the other accounts? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
It was a confusing picture of deposits and withdrawals. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
We also found that Rashpal's husband's wages | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
were being paid directly into one of Rashpal's accounts, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
which obviously is not what you'd expect | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
from a supposed ex-husband. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
It certainly wasn't. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
But the money transfers between the couple were almost insignificant | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
compared to money circulating in some of Rashpal's other accounts. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
As Ian and his team looked more closely at her banking, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
the sums of money involved were staggering. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
What was she doing with the cash | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and where was the £25,000 | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
the council had given to her in housing benefit? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
I mean, none of this money was declared. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
She claimed not to have anything. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
As we'll see later, Rashpal was very naughty indeed. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
For now, it's farewell to the fraudsters | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
that are trying to rip off our system, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
and hello to those who we call our saints - | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
people who do everything to make sure that folk | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
who genuinely require help, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
but who are too proud or don't know how to help themselves, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
get what they need. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Do you remember being young? I think I do. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
It's a little while ago now. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
What I remember is that there's a huge pressure to fit in. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
Sometimes that pressure can make you do things | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
which make you a danger to yourself and to those around you. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
After problems with drink and drugs, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Shane Blankley found himself homeless and with no hope, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
aged just 19. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
I felt that, "I don't know where my next meal's coming from, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
"I don't know where I'm going to sleep that night." | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
I felt as if I was going nowhere. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
'Shane came from a broken home | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
'and opted to live with his father and brother after his parents had separated. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
'I've come to meet him to find out how someone so young | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
'could end up in such a terrifying situation.' | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Roughly, what sort of age would you pinpoint | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
where you left the path of acceptable behaviour, if you like? | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
13, 14. I got into the wrong crowds. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
It started off as a bit of drinking, I suppose, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
and then a little bit of light drugs come along. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
And how were things going at school after that? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I was turning up hungover | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
or I was getting high in the middle of the day, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
so it came to the point where I was being put in isolation at school, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
I was being taken out of the lessons. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
They didn't want me there. I was being too much of a distraction. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Shane started to experiment with harder drugs. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
It wasn't long before his erratic behaviour took its toll on his dad, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
with whom he was living at the time. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
I was bored at home | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
and I found my brother's car keys. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Like an idiot, I decided to go out and take his car | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
and I went for a spin. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
I'd been drinking. I, er, I took a little bit of drugs. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
It wasn't much for me, you know? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
It was what I'd class as an average night. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I enjoyed myself, I suppose. That was the kind of idea, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
but it soon turned into a disaster when I crashed it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
When my parents found out that night, my dad just... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
That was it. It was the final straw for him. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
He threw me out there and then. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Shane's mum took him in, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
but it was a struggle for him to keep off the drugs. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
-So you're with your mum... -Yes. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Is she more tolerant of what you're up to? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Is she letting you drink and take drugs? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
She pretty much made me go cold turkey. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Er... It came to the point, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
the first couple of weeks, I was locked in. I wasn't allowed out. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
But as time went on, she gave me a little bit more freedom, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
and, in that freedom, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
she didn't realise exactly what I was doing in my spare time. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
I was getting the bus back to see mates | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
and I was back to drinking and doing drugs. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
OK, so you may be thinking at this point, "Shane is just trouble." | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Eventually, his mum decided to kick him out. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
Like many in his situation, he ended up living in hostels. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Finally, he managed to get a flat of his own from the council | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
and was working in a warehouse to try and make ends meet. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
It was really good, my job, but I turned to drink | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
because it was something to relax me after a hard day. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
But with me previously having drink problems anyway, you know, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
it soon crept up and started to become a problem. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
I soon found that I needed something to pick me up. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Living by himself clearly wasn't doing this troubled young fellow | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
any favours, and, left to his own devices, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
his drug use spiralled out of control. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
It'd come to the point where I had two weeks inside my flat, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
and the first few days | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
I phoned up work to tell them I can't make it, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
and then it felt too much to even phone work. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Shane lost his job. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Without a steady income, his bills started to pile up. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Really down because of everything I'd lost. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
And then I get a letter through from my housing association | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
saying they're putting in for an eviction notice. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
That's when things really, really started to drop. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
The housing association wanted Shane out, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
but they also recognised he was a young man that needed help, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
so they arranged for Helen Parkin, a family employment coach, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
to help him get out of the desperate situation he was in. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
He was facing eviction, he had the court order, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
he couldn't face the court case, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
he had no criteria with which to fight the court case, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
and this pile of debts, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
and he really just couldn't see a way out of the situation. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Helen was Shane's only hope. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
He'd been evicted, but she pointed him in the direction of a charity | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
that could potentially help with accommodation and work. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
We work with people who are formally homeless | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
and we provide them with a community home to live in | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
and a social enterprise to work in. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
When people come to us, we will find a skill that they want to work on | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
or a job that are particularly interested in. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Christine Dallas is the leader for the community in Leicestershire | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
which considered Shane's application. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
What we saw was somebody who wanted to change his life, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
and that is really important to us. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
We can only work with people when they want to succeed. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
We could give him responsibility that would give him something in his life. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
We could give him his pride back. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Shane finally got the call he'd been waiting for. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I felt as if, all of a sudden, I'd gone from, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
"Oh, no, the world is literally coming to an end for me" | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
to being, "Actually, hold on, they're going to give me a job, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
"they're going to put a roof over my head, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
"they're going to provide me with money | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
"and they're going to provide me with the support | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
"I could really do with." | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
The charity provided Shane with living accommodation | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
and gave him a job working in one of its emporiums, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
which restores donated furniture and then sells it to the public. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Matthew Taylor's been working with the charity for over a year. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
He was given the responsibility of helping Shane to settle in. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I was sort of assigned to Shane, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
so I showed him round his new room | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
and broke the ice with a joke and we had a laugh together. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Matt's helped me quite a lot since I've been here, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
even if it's simple things like waking me up in the morning, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
banging on my door to check that I'm up for work! | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Having heard Shane's story, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
I've come to see for myself just how far he's come. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
-Everything we're looking at is for sale? This is a working shop? -Yes. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
It is a different proposition, isn't it, to any other shop? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Yes. If you don't talk to the customers, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
you're potentially throwing away business. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
One day, Shane was on the shop floor and a customer came into the shop | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
and she was very interested in a piano, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
and this beautiful music started coming out of this piano | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and it was Shane playing the piano. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
The customer was that impressed, she bought the piano there and then. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
It's great to see Shane looking genuinely settled. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
It does sound like he has a real knack with the customers, as well. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
When it comes to playing the piano, I could teach him a thing or two. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
THEY PLAY FAST TUNE | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Brilliant. Very nice. I'll take it. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Tell me what happens next for you. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Where do you see yourself going, if you can plan six months, a year? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
How far ahead are you looking? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
I want to go into youth work, all areas, all aspects. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
I'd love to go into a bit of probation, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I'd like to go into social. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
So, that's work... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
What do you want for you? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
I want to have a stable roof over my head, you know? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
I want something that I can guarantee's going to be there. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
I'd like to see a bit of my family more. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
I'd like to build some bridges. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Friends, as well. Friends, especially. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I have lost quite a few of them. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
So, yeah, it's not just progression in work or any particular... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
It's just progression in life. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Shane now has big ambitions, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
and it seems like his new family at the charity | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
have high hopes for him, as well. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Where would you put Shane right now? What position's he in? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
We've seen a massive difference in Shane. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
As you can see, he interacts brilliantly | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
with the other companions. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
They mentor him, they look after him | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
and he responds really well to that. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
Shane's definitely not at the end of his journey, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
but he is on his way. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I look back on me, on how I was, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
I was that screwed up and messed up at the time that... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
any loss of anything was just... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
It just knocked me down straight away. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I look at me now and, you know, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
you can knock me down a couple of times | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
and I'll keep getting back up. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
I've got that support network around me, I've got people there for me. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Time now to go back to the devious world of money-grabbing scroungers. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:55 | |
The Fraud Team at Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
is investigating the case of single mother Rashpal Kaur, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
who they suspect is cheating the system | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
and paying her housing benefit directly to family members. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
In the course of their enquiries, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
officers discovered that despite being a single mum on benefits, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Rashpal had access to huge amounts of cash | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
in a number of different bank accounts. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Where you've got, erm, serious cases of deliberate fraud, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
clearly benefits are not then paid | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
when it's been found that they're not entitled to those benefits, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
but the case then has to be put together | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
to bring the prosecution. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Steve took the decision to stop Rashpal's benefits, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
but the investigators still had a lot of work to do | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
to get to the bottom of what was going on. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
She'd been given nearly £25,000 in housing benefits | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
between 2003 and 2007 | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and the Fraud Team had to find out where this money had gone. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
The spreadsheet shows that various accounts that Rashpal had were undeclared to the council. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:07 | |
And, over a six-year period, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
we can show that Rashpal had just over £270,000 | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
in these bank accounts. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
It seems Rashpal is doing very well for herself. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Who can blame her? She's clearly a shrewd investor! | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
The only slight fly in the ointment is the fact | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
that not all of the money is hers. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
In fact, there were so many accounts | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
that the investigators had a real job trying to track it down, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
all £270,000 of it. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Investigators had to go through a painstaking process | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
of tracking and deciphering | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
what was behind Rashpal's various bank transactions, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
but they did begin to notice a pattern. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
The money that was in the accounts was being paid out in quite big sums. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
Some of the sums were traced to property companies | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
or solicitors who dealt with property sales, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
both in this country and abroad. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Our investigation showed that there was a lot of, erm, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
links to the Southampton area, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
but also, there was property developers in Dubai | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
who she was making payments to. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Rashpal was potentially using British taxpayers' money | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
to buy property by the seaside and in the Middle East. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
After the Fraud Team examined bank records that connected Rashpal with three properties in Southampton, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
they investigated who was living at these addresses | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
and uncovered a vital piece of evidence. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
There was an address in Southampton, West End Road, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
where there was a claim made from somebody | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
to get help with rent from Southampton Council. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
On that claim, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:51 | |
they'd noted that the landlord was Rashpal Kaur. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
But that wasn't all. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
The phone number that could be used for contact | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
was the phone number that we held for Rashpal Kaur. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
So, in Sandwell, Rashpal was getting benefits for being a single mum. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
In Southampton, she was being paid taxpayers' money as a landlord. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
And if that wasn't bad enough, Ian's team was about to discover | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
even more potential abuses of the system. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
She made an application for Carer's Allowance for her mother, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
stating that she was looking after her mum 35 hours a week. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Rashpal stated on the application form that she wasn't working. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
We didn't trust that to be correct, so we did some checking | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
and we found out that she was working full time at a local call centre. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
It was a barefaced lie. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
In the course of their investigation, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
the Fraud Team also discovered | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
that Rashpal may have fraudulently completed a housing benefit claim | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
for a friend and then lied to the authorities about that, as well. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
It looks like she's trying to get round the benefits system | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
and use a different benefit | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
to get her the payments that she obviously thinks she deserves. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
Ian had more offences to add to the list of allegations against Rashpal, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
but what he had to prove | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
was how she'd spent the £25,000 of housing money | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
the council had given to her between 2003 and 2007. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
One of things that we noticed with Rashpal was, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
in 2006 she'd taken out some insurance policies | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
for her and her husband | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
in which they were both the recipient of the money, should the other die. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
Effectively, Rashpal was laundering this money, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
taking the money that she'd received criminally | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
and turning it into cleaner money. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
It was the last piece of the jigsaw. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Investigators also found evidence that Rashpal used taxpayers' money | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
for private school fees, private number plates | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and various expenses around the home. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Rashpal was charged with 22 counts, variously benefit fraud, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
perverting the course of justice, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
another benefit fraud case that had been brought, and money laundering. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
She was charged with perverting the course of justice | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
because investigators believed she'd made a witness retract their statement | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
which incriminated Rashpal in a fraudulent claim involving her friend. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
After investing thousands of man hours into the case, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Ian's team finally put Rashpal in front of a judge and jury | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
on the 5th of October 2012. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
No-one else in her family was charged with any offences. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Rashpal appeared at Wolverhampton Crown Court | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
and pleaded not guilty to all the offences and charges | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
that had been put to her. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
This meant that we had to have a trial. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
That trial lasted 12 days, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
which is as long as a trial for benefit fraud has ever taken, in my knowledge. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Rashpal may've put up a long fight, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
but the jury simply didn't believe her | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
and found her guilty of all charges. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
At the end of the trial, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
the judge said it was the most comprehensive benefit fraud | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
that he'd seen and she was sentenced to 32 months in prison. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:26 | |
Rashpal Kaur is clearly a calculating criminal. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
She had a significant amount of money, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
far more money than the vast majority of the residents of Sandwell | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
could ever hope to have. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
She used those benefits to supplement that money, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
to invest in property to make more money. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
Her motives were pure greed. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
It was a great result for the Sandwell Fraud Team, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
and taxpayers, who'll be getting their money back | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
and any money Rashpal made as a result of her fraudulent acts. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
So cash-rich Mrs Kaur finally got what was coming to her, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
a very lengthy sentence. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
She was held to account | 0:28:13 | 0:28:14 | |
for a very complex and dodgy set of accounts. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 |