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What would you do if you had a bad run of luck?

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The chances are that you'd end up turning to government agencies for a bit of help.

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We're very lucky to have a welfare state

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and I think a lot of people don't appreciate it.

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My husband is disabled. Without the benefit system, we would've found things difficult.

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Here in the UK, millions of us need to ask for help every year

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in the form of benefits, legal aid and healthcare,

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but there are some people who are out there to cheat the system out of as much as they can.

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Benefit cheats are criminals

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and they should be treated accordingly.

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How are these people managing to get away with this?

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But those people who are trying to get rich from the public purse

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are now being sniffed out by investigators,

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who want to make sure that as much money as possible

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is available to those who need it.

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This is the world of Saints And Scroungers.

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Coming up, the scroungers out to beat the system...

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A single mum on benefits with hundreds of thousands of pounds in the bank...

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Rashpal had just over £270,000 in her bank.

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A lot of the money seemed to be going towards building up a property portfolio,

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both here in the UK and abroad.

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And we meet someone who rightly deserves a helping hand -

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a young man trying to pull his life together

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after battling with drink and drugs.

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It just felt absolutely unreal.

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I felt as if, "How can I possibly carry on? How can I pick this up?"

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There was no way I could see...

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of getting any help of going anywhere in life.

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Now, we all need a roof over our heads,

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and while many of us are lucky enough to own our own homes,

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there are some people who need help paying the rent.

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If it's the council that's providing that help, though,

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you've got to be honest with them.

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In Sandwell in the West Midlands,

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the drive to clamp down on housing benefit cheats comes from the very top.

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We have a zero-tolerance approach to fraud.

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For many people in Sandwell

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who don't claim what they're entitled to,

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we help them to get what they are,

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but for those people who commit tenancy fraud,

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I'm interested in making sure that all of those issues are dealt with.

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The council's Fraud Team regularly scrutinises benefit claims in proactive initiatives,

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and it was during one of these exercises they came across a very unusual case.

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Meet 45-year-old Rashpal Kaur,

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a single mother living on income support

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and receiving housing and council tax benefit

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from Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council.

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She appeared to be the kind of person that taxpayers should be giving a helping hand to.

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Rashpal had been claiming benefits since 1995.

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She was claiming as a single, unemployed mother with one child.

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On the forms completed for the council for housing benefit,

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Rashpal stated that she wasn't related to the landlords in any way,

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and neither were her children.

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Between 2003 and 2007,

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Rashpal Kaur received nearly £25,000 in housing benefit.

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Nothing seemed to be wrong with her claim,

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until fraud investigators launched a specific drive

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into a type of benefit payment that she was being given.

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Ian Scarrett was in charge of the team that looked into her case.

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We'd identified a couple of cases

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where landlords were related to tenants

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and that hadn't been declared.

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What we thought we would do would be to carry out a fraud drive

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to look at people who...

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who may be related to the landlord in some way.

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After trawling through housing benefits files

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looking for signs of unusual tenancy agreements,

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Rashpal pinged up on the investigators' radar.

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Rashpal Kaur was interesting to the council

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because she'd been at the property for a number of years,

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the rent continued to be the same figure

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and the landlord had changed in that time

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and we hadn't had notification of it.

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Rashpal was married but separated from her husband.

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As a single parent, she'd been claiming benefits for over a decade.

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She'd filled in two applications for housing and council tax benefit

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from two addresses in Sandwell,

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one for St Christopher Close

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and the other in Europa Avenue.

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The investigators' initial enquiries focused on finding out

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exactly who owned these properties.

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We didn't have application forms for Rashpal going back to '95,

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so we were only able to get evidence from 2003.

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And Ian's team didn't waste any time in doing just that.

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Rashpal had received nearly 25 grand in housing benefit

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from Sandwell Council since 2003.

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The investigators needed to make sure that this claim was legit.

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Once we looked at Rashpal Kaur and were suspicious about her claim,

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there were several different checks

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that we would carry out simultaneously

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to enable us to make a decision as to whether there was

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further information we'd need -

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things like birth certificates,

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credit checks, Land Registry checks.

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Investigators were searching for any evidence that might support

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their hunch that Rashpal's circumstances were not exactly as set out on her claim form.

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It wasn't long before they did.

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The credit check that we received

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showed that she'd got joint credit with a male.

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She hadn't declared a male as living at the property.

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We checked the male's details at the address

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and he came up as having applied for credit in his own right

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and with a partner - Rashpal.

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Hold on! A man was claiming to be living at her address

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when she was meant to be single!

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The name on the credit forms was her estranged husband,

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but he was meant to be out of the picture.

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Alarm bells started to ring for the investigators

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and further checks were needed.

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The Land Registry check for the two addresses

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showed people that we were then aware of

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were either related to Rashpal,

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either by being the father of her,

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or the brother of her, or married to her.

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Over the years, the two properties that Rashpal had been using

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to claim benefits from

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had changed ownership a number of times.

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Her home at St Christopher Close was owned individually and jointly by her father and husband,

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and her home at Europa Avenue was owned at different times

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by her father and brother and her father and husband.

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It was time for investigators to do what they do best -

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dig a bit deeper.

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We carried out some checks, birth certificate checks, firstly on Rashpal,

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and that showed details of her parents.

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That was interesting to us

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because the father was regularly the landlord

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or the owner of the two properties that she was living in.

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Further checks showed that a second owner,

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or joint owner of the property, was her husband,

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and we were able to confirm that

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by getting a marriage certificate which showed those details.

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So it turns out that Rashpal's landlord is in fact her dad.

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No, hold on, it's her brother. No, it's her husband!

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I've heard of married couples having set-tos,

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but charging your wife rent...

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Well, that's harsh!

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Rashpal's claims that her husband

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was not involved in her life any more now looked ridiculous.

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Investigators suspected that she'd given nearly £25,000

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of housing benefit money directly to her family.

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If true, she could potentially be making a fraudulent claim to the council.

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The Fraud Team decided it was time to ask her to come in

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for an interview under caution.

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We sent her out three interview requests

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and she didn't attend any of them.

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Once Rashpal didn't attend the interview

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it gave us no option, as far as we were concerned,

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as to find out where that money was going, whether it was properly being used for rent.

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The only way to do that was to check the bank account we were paying the money to,

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to see what was happening to it.

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Ian's team used their authorised powers

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to carry out a detailed examination of Rashpal's bank records.

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Normally, we'd expect to see the money coming in from the council

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the one day and perhaps a few days later,

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that money, the same amount, going out to the landlord.

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That would be what we would expect to see.

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With Rashpal, we saw the money going into her account

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and then it would sit in the account

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and be used for general day-to-day expenses.

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On the face of the bank statements,

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it appeared that there was no rent being paid.

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No rent at all? So nearly £25,000 of taxpayers' money

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she was getting to keep a roof over her head

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was being spent on everything else but.

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So, where was it going?

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With Rashpal refusing to answer any questions,

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investigators kept digging into her financial affairs

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and made a shocking discovery.

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We were aware of one bank account,

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which is where we paid our rent to Rashpal.

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When we contacted that bank,

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they advised us there was a number of other bank accounts

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which we were unaware of.

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A single mum on benefits with secret bank accounts?

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It looked like investigators

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had unearthed a very sophisticated fraud.

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But what was going on?

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Ian's team started the mammoth task of gathering information

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about where the money in Rashpal's accounts was coming from

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and what else she was doing.

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We found that Rashpal had another eight accounts

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which she hadn't declared to us at all,

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and these all had money running through them.

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Eight bank accounts? Who has eight bank accounts?

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Rashpal had been given over £25,000 from the council,

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but had any of this money been siphoned off

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into the other accounts?

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It was a confusing picture of deposits and withdrawals.

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We also found that Rashpal's husband's wages

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were being paid directly into one of Rashpal's accounts,

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which obviously is not what you'd expect

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from a supposed ex-husband.

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It certainly wasn't.

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But the money transfers between the couple were almost insignificant

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compared to money circulating in some of Rashpal's other accounts.

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As Ian and his team looked more closely at her banking,

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the sums of money involved were staggering.

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What was she doing with the cash

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and where was the £25,000

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the council had given to her in housing benefit?

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I mean, none of this money was declared.

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She claimed not to have anything.

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As we'll see later, Rashpal was very naughty indeed.

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For now, it's farewell to the fraudsters

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that are trying to rip off our system,

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and hello to those who we call our saints -

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people who do everything to make sure that folk

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who genuinely require help,

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but who are too proud or don't know how to help themselves,

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get what they need.

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Do you remember being young? I think I do.

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It's a little while ago now.

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What I remember is that there's a huge pressure to fit in.

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Sometimes that pressure can make you do things

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which make you a danger to yourself and to those around you.

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After problems with drink and drugs,

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Shane Blankley found himself homeless and with no hope,

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aged just 19.

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I felt that, "I don't know where my next meal's coming from,

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"I don't know where I'm going to sleep that night."

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I felt as if I was going nowhere.

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'Shane came from a broken home

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'and opted to live with his father and brother after his parents had separated.

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'I've come to meet him to find out how someone so young

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'could end up in such a terrifying situation.'

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Roughly, what sort of age would you pinpoint

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where you left the path of acceptable behaviour, if you like?

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13, 14. I got into the wrong crowds.

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It started off as a bit of drinking, I suppose,

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and then a little bit of light drugs come along.

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And how were things going at school after that?

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I was turning up hungover

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or I was getting high in the middle of the day,

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so it came to the point where I was being put in isolation at school,

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I was being taken out of the lessons.

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They didn't want me there. I was being too much of a distraction.

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Shane started to experiment with harder drugs.

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It wasn't long before his erratic behaviour took its toll on his dad,

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with whom he was living at the time.

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I was bored at home

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and I found my brother's car keys.

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Like an idiot, I decided to go out and take his car

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and I went for a spin.

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I'd been drinking. I, er, I took a little bit of drugs.

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It wasn't much for me, you know?

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It was what I'd class as an average night.

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I enjoyed myself, I suppose. That was the kind of idea,

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but it soon turned into a disaster when I crashed it.

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When my parents found out that night, my dad just...

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That was it. It was the final straw for him.

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He threw me out there and then.

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Shane's mum took him in,

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but it was a struggle for him to keep off the drugs.

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-So you're with your mum...

-Yes.

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Is she more tolerant of what you're up to?

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Is she letting you drink and take drugs?

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She pretty much made me go cold turkey.

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Er... It came to the point,

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the first couple of weeks, I was locked in. I wasn't allowed out.

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But as time went on, she gave me a little bit more freedom,

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and, in that freedom,

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she didn't realise exactly what I was doing in my spare time.

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I was getting the bus back to see mates

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and I was back to drinking and doing drugs.

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OK, so you may be thinking at this point, "Shane is just trouble."

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Eventually, his mum decided to kick him out.

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Like many in his situation, he ended up living in hostels.

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Finally, he managed to get a flat of his own from the council

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and was working in a warehouse to try and make ends meet.

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It was really good, my job, but I turned to drink

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because it was something to relax me after a hard day.

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But with me previously having drink problems anyway, you know,

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it soon crept up and started to become a problem.

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I soon found that I needed something to pick me up.

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Living by himself clearly wasn't doing this troubled young fellow

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any favours, and, left to his own devices,

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his drug use spiralled out of control.

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It'd come to the point where I had two weeks inside my flat,

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and the first few days

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I phoned up work to tell them I can't make it,

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and then it felt too much to even phone work.

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Shane lost his job.

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Without a steady income, his bills started to pile up.

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Really down because of everything I'd lost.

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And then I get a letter through from my housing association

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saying they're putting in for an eviction notice.

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That's when things really, really started to drop.

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The housing association wanted Shane out,

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but they also recognised he was a young man that needed help,

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so they arranged for Helen Parkin, a family employment coach,

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to help him get out of the desperate situation he was in.

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He was facing eviction, he had the court order,

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he couldn't face the court case,

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he had no criteria with which to fight the court case,

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and this pile of debts,

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and he really just couldn't see a way out of the situation.

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Helen was Shane's only hope.

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He'd been evicted, but she pointed him in the direction of a charity

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that could potentially help with accommodation and work.

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We work with people who are formally homeless

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and we provide them with a community home to live in

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and a social enterprise to work in.

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When people come to us, we will find a skill that they want to work on

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or a job that are particularly interested in.

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Christine Dallas is the leader for the community in Leicestershire

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which considered Shane's application.

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What we saw was somebody who wanted to change his life,

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and that is really important to us.

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We can only work with people when they want to succeed.

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We could give him responsibility that would give him something in his life.

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We could give him his pride back.

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Shane finally got the call he'd been waiting for.

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I felt as if, all of a sudden, I'd gone from,

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"Oh, no, the world is literally coming to an end for me"

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to being, "Actually, hold on, they're going to give me a job,

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"they're going to put a roof over my head,

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"they're going to provide me with money

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"and they're going to provide me with the support

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"I could really do with."

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The charity provided Shane with living accommodation

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and gave him a job working in one of its emporiums,

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which restores donated furniture and then sells it to the public.

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Matthew Taylor's been working with the charity for over a year.

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He was given the responsibility of helping Shane to settle in.

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I was sort of assigned to Shane,

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so I showed him round his new room

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and broke the ice with a joke and we had a laugh together.

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THEY LAUGH

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Matt's helped me quite a lot since I've been here,

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even if it's simple things like waking me up in the morning,

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banging on my door to check that I'm up for work!

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Having heard Shane's story,

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I've come to see for myself just how far he's come.

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-Everything we're looking at is for sale? This is a working shop?

-Yes.

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It is a different proposition, isn't it, to any other shop?

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Yes. If you don't talk to the customers,

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you're potentially throwing away business.

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One day, Shane was on the shop floor and a customer came into the shop

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and she was very interested in a piano,

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and this beautiful music started coming out of this piano

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and it was Shane playing the piano.

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The customer was that impressed, she bought the piano there and then.

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It's great to see Shane looking genuinely settled.

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It does sound like he has a real knack with the customers, as well.

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When it comes to playing the piano, I could teach him a thing or two.

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THEY PLAY FAST TUNE

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Brilliant. Very nice. I'll take it.

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Tell me what happens next for you.

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Where do you see yourself going, if you can plan six months, a year?

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How far ahead are you looking?

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I want to go into youth work, all areas, all aspects.

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I'd love to go into a bit of probation,

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I'd like to go into social.

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So, that's work...

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What do you want for you?

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I want to have a stable roof over my head, you know?

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I want something that I can guarantee's going to be there.

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I'd like to see a bit of my family more.

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I'd like to build some bridges.

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Friends, as well. Friends, especially.

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I have lost quite a few of them.

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So, yeah, it's not just progression in work or any particular...

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It's just progression in life.

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Shane now has big ambitions,

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and it seems like his new family at the charity

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have high hopes for him, as well.

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Where would you put Shane right now? What position's he in?

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We've seen a massive difference in Shane.

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As you can see, he interacts brilliantly

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with the other companions.

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They mentor him, they look after him

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and he responds really well to that.

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Shane's definitely not at the end of his journey,

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but he is on his way.

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I look back on me, on how I was,

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I was that screwed up and messed up at the time that...

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any loss of anything was just...

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It just knocked me down straight away.

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I look at me now and, you know,

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you can knock me down a couple of times

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and I'll keep getting back up.

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I've got that support network around me, I've got people there for me.

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Time now to go back to the devious world of money-grabbing scroungers.

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The Fraud Team at Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council

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is investigating the case of single mother Rashpal Kaur,

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who they suspect is cheating the system

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and paying her housing benefit directly to family members.

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In the course of their enquiries,

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officers discovered that despite being a single mum on benefits,

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Rashpal had access to huge amounts of cash

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in a number of different bank accounts.

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Where you've got, erm, serious cases of deliberate fraud,

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clearly benefits are not then paid

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when it's been found that they're not entitled to those benefits,

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but the case then has to be put together

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to bring the prosecution.

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Steve took the decision to stop Rashpal's benefits,

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but the investigators still had a lot of work to do

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to get to the bottom of what was going on.

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She'd been given nearly £25,000 in housing benefits

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between 2003 and 2007

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and the Fraud Team had to find out where this money had gone.

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The spreadsheet shows that various accounts that Rashpal had were undeclared to the council.

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And, over a six-year period,

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we can show that Rashpal had just over £270,000

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in these bank accounts.

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It seems Rashpal is doing very well for herself.

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Who can blame her? She's clearly a shrewd investor!

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The only slight fly in the ointment is the fact

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that not all of the money is hers.

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In fact, there were so many accounts

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that the investigators had a real job trying to track it down,

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all £270,000 of it.

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Investigators had to go through a painstaking process

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of tracking and deciphering

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what was behind Rashpal's various bank transactions,

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but they did begin to notice a pattern.

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The money that was in the accounts was being paid out in quite big sums.

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Some of the sums were traced to property companies

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or solicitors who dealt with property sales,

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both in this country and abroad.

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Our investigation showed that there was a lot of, erm,

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links to the Southampton area,

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but also, there was property developers in Dubai

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who she was making payments to.

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Rashpal was potentially using British taxpayers' money

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to buy property by the seaside and in the Middle East.

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After the Fraud Team examined bank records that connected Rashpal with three properties in Southampton,

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they investigated who was living at these addresses

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and uncovered a vital piece of evidence.

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There was an address in Southampton, West End Road,

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where there was a claim made from somebody

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to get help with rent from Southampton Council.

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On that claim,

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they'd noted that the landlord was Rashpal Kaur.

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But that wasn't all.

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The phone number that could be used for contact

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was the phone number that we held for Rashpal Kaur.

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So, in Sandwell, Rashpal was getting benefits for being a single mum.

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In Southampton, she was being paid taxpayers' money as a landlord.

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And if that wasn't bad enough, Ian's team was about to discover

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even more potential abuses of the system.

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She made an application for Carer's Allowance for her mother,

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stating that she was looking after her mum 35 hours a week.

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Rashpal stated on the application form that she wasn't working.

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We didn't trust that to be correct, so we did some checking

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and we found out that she was working full time at a local call centre.

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It was a barefaced lie.

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In the course of their investigation,

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the Fraud Team also discovered

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that Rashpal may have fraudulently completed a housing benefit claim

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for a friend and then lied to the authorities about that, as well.

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It looks like she's trying to get round the benefits system

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and use a different benefit

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to get her the payments that she obviously thinks she deserves.

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Ian had more offences to add to the list of allegations against Rashpal,

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but what he had to prove

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was how she'd spent the £25,000 of housing money

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the council had given to her between 2003 and 2007.

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One of things that we noticed with Rashpal was,

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in 2006 she'd taken out some insurance policies

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for her and her husband

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in which they were both the recipient of the money, should the other die.

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Effectively, Rashpal was laundering this money,

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taking the money that she'd received criminally

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and turning it into cleaner money.

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It was the last piece of the jigsaw.

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Investigators also found evidence that Rashpal used taxpayers' money

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for private school fees, private number plates

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and various expenses around the home.

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Rashpal was charged with 22 counts, variously benefit fraud,

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perverting the course of justice,

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another benefit fraud case that had been brought, and money laundering.

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She was charged with perverting the course of justice

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because investigators believed she'd made a witness retract their statement

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which incriminated Rashpal in a fraudulent claim involving her friend.

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After investing thousands of man hours into the case,

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Ian's team finally put Rashpal in front of a judge and jury

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on the 5th of October 2012.

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No-one else in her family was charged with any offences.

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Rashpal appeared at Wolverhampton Crown Court

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and pleaded not guilty to all the offences and charges

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that had been put to her.

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This meant that we had to have a trial.

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That trial lasted 12 days,

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which is as long as a trial for benefit fraud has ever taken, in my knowledge.

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Rashpal may've put up a long fight,

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but the jury simply didn't believe her

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and found her guilty of all charges.

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At the end of the trial,

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the judge said it was the most comprehensive benefit fraud

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that he'd seen and she was sentenced to 32 months in prison.

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Rashpal Kaur is clearly a calculating criminal.

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She had a significant amount of money,

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far more money than the vast majority of the residents of Sandwell

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could ever hope to have.

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She used those benefits to supplement that money,

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to invest in property to make more money.

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Her motives were pure greed.

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It was a great result for the Sandwell Fraud Team,

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and taxpayers, who'll be getting their money back

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and any money Rashpal made as a result of her fraudulent acts.

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So cash-rich Mrs Kaur finally got what was coming to her,

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a very lengthy sentence.

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She was held to account

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for a very complex and dodgy set of accounts.

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