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On the 19th May 1536, one of the most infamous | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
episodes in English history moved towards its gruesome conclusion. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
Anne Boleyn, Queen and second wife of King Henry VIII, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
was taken from her quarters in the Tower of London, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
and with the single blow of a sword became the first | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Queen in Britain's history to be executed. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
To Jesus Christ I commend my spirit. Lord God, have pity on my soul. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
Anne Boleyn's rise to power had been highly controversial. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
She was the commoner who so captivated the King | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
he was prepared to tear the Christian Church apart | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
in order to have her. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
People like to think of Anne Boleyn as sexually out of control, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
ravenously ambitious, a she-wolf. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
But when it came, her downfall was spectacular. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It was a bear pit. Primeval, primordial drama, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:12 | |
red in tooth and claw and horror and passion. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
It's a highly political story, unique to its time and place, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
but it's also a universal story | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
because, in the end, it's a story about a man and a woman. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
Today, the saga of Anne Boleyn's downfall has entered into legend. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
It was a blood-soaked ending to a love story | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
that began with inflamed passions and high intrigue | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
and has lost none of its power to fascinate. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
And 500 years on, the reasons for her downfall | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
continue to stir strong argument. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I think this is one of the most shocking | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
and audacious plots in English history. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
I mean, I think all the conspiracy theories are suspect. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
The problem is that there is no evidence. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Maybe we should pause and ask whether Anne Boleyn was wholly innocent | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
of the charges of adultery, treason, that were brought against her, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
and ponder whether, perhaps, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
there might have been something in them. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
So who was the real Anne Boleyn and why was she executed? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
On the afternoon of the 2nd May 1536, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
a unit of the King's Guard arrived at Greenwich Palace near London, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
accompanied by members of Henry VIII's Privy Council. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
They carried with them an extraordinary document, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
a warrant for the arrest of the Queen of England. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
The charges against Anne could hardly have been more serious - | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
adultery, incest and conspiring to cause the death of the King. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Accused and tried alongside her were five men, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
including some of King Henry's closest companions | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and even Anne's own brother. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
All of them were thrown into the Tower of London. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
In a matter of days, they were dead. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Never before had a Queen been arrested and executed. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
But the reasons behind Anne's destruction remain | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
the subject of fierce historical debate. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
The brutal speed of her downfall and the shocking nature | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
of the charges against her suggest that she was framed, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
but by whom and for what reason? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
On the face of it, the year 1536 could hardly have begun | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
more auspiciously for Anne Boleyn. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
On the 7th January, King Henry's first wife, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Catherine of Aragon, died at Kimbolton Castle near Cambridge. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
At their favourite palace in Greenwich, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
the King and his new wife threw a party. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
To celebrate Catherine's death, Henry and Anne danced, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
and there are accounts of him and Anne coming out | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
dressed in yellow. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
And this has been interpreted to be a sort of sign | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
of unbecoming glee. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
So I think for Anne this is a great moment. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Finally, her old rival, her old enemy, is dead. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
We have to remember that Catherine never ceased to call herself Queen, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
and if you didn't give her her full titles, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
she wouldn't answer, she wouldn't negotiate with you. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
So there must be a moment, I suppose, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
when Anne feels, "Now I really am Queen of England." | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
Anne had begun her rise to power ten years earlier. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Although her family were commoners, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
they were notorious for their scheming ambitions. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
After a period of training in the French royal household, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Anne made her debut at court | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
and became a lady-in-waiting to Queen Catherine. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
She came at the age of about 21 to the English court, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and she seems to have burst upon it with a certain brilliance. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
And she was very confident, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
very stylish, very French. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
It was said you would have taken her for a French woman born, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and she clearly made an impact. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
She's obviously not a girl that everybody goes, like, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
"That's the prettiest girl at court." But I think what she is | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
is I think she's probably the sexiest girl at court. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
She's very, very intelligent, she's very quick witted. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
There was a lot of discussion about theology. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
She has a genuine interest in that. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
So you've got a young woman of some substance. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
She was thought to be a bit of a cut above. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
What she was was sophisticated and cosmopolitan, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
and she could dance and she could recite poetry. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
And she obviously just had a charisma | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
that attracted people to her. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
King Henry was infatuated. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
He bombarded Anne with love letters, begging her to become his mistress. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
But the new girl at court was a shrewd operator. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
We don't know to what extent she loved him, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
if she ever did, or if she operated on a basis of cold ambition. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
But she strikes me as a woman slightly too cool, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:20 | |
detached and intelligent to stake everything on love. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
In a move of astonishing boldness, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Anne told Henry she would settle for nothing less than to be his Queen. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
And, of course, for a King, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
this is wildly exciting. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Nobody's ever talked to him like this before. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Nobody has ever, effectively, given him orders. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
So Henry made a momentous decision | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
to divorce his Spanish wife of 24 years. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
To do so, Henry was forced to break with the Catholic Church in Rome | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
and declare himself head of a new Church of England. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
So there were many who resented Anne Boleyn as a destructive | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
and immoral force. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
There's this famous account of her being called a "goggle-eyed whore". | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
I think there is a sense that people feel that wrong has been done | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and that Catherine was the true Queen | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
and therefore, Anne is a usurper | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
and who has wormed her way into the King's bed. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
No woman had ever done what she did before. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
No woman had ever made that step from royal mistress to the throne, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:40 | |
getting the Queen, a real Queen, out of the way. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
This is something utterly, completely extraordinary. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
It changes all the rules. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
After a six-year legal battle, Henry finally got his divorce | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
and Anne Boleyn got her crown. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
And by 1536, she had another reason to be happy. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Anne was pregnant. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
She had already given Henry a daughter, the Princess Elizabeth. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
Now all she needed to do was bear Henry a son | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
and her position as Queen would be unassailable. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Anne Boleyn was riding high. And Henry was saying, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
"And God be praised, we are free from the fear of war," | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
because it was felt that Catherine's nephew, the Emperor Charles V, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
might invade England on her behalf. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
But no. Anne now felt the way was clear for her to be accepted | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
as undisputed Queen. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Yet just three months later, Anne would be dead. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
Although she couldn't have known it, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
the road to her ruin began on the very day that her rival was buried. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
On 29th January 1536, three weeks after her death, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
Catherine of Aragon was laid to rest in Peterborough Cathedral. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
But on this occasion, there were no celebrations at court. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
On the very same day, Anne suffered a miscarriage. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
Even worse, the unborn child was a boy. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
Henry was devastated. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
The idea of not having an heir was unthinkable. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
He's had two children, both of them daughters. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
It's... It's... This is failure for a king of a most terrible sort. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:11 | |
The survival of the dynasty is what is at stake. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Anne had had a miscarriage before, perhaps more than one. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
Now there is another. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
And Henry is finding his flesh begins to creep... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
because it looks as if this deathly pattern | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
is reasserting itself. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Henry is an intensely religious man. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
This is not assumed. This is not feigned. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
He thinks that, as King, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
he has a direct relationship with God. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
So why? Am I still not on the right side of God? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
What does God want of me now? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Did Anne Boleyn's failure to give Henry a son | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
set in motion the events which led to her downfall? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Records from the period offer a clue into Henry's thinking. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
The day after the miscarriage, he declared to a courtier | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
that he had been charmed into marrying Anne | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
by magic spells or sorcery. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
But were these the wild words of a distraught husband | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
or something more ominous? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
When Henry talks about enchantments, charms, magic tricks, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
Henry is beginning, it seems, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
to think about annulling his marriage to Anne. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
He cannot imagine what he ever saw in Anne Boleyn, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
and he cannot imagine why, for her sake, he broke with Rome, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
turned the politics of Europe upside down. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
So he's thrashing about, trying to find a reason. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
And he's saying, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
"Perhaps my marriage was always null and void | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
"for lack of proper consent." | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
But some perceive a different, darker tale | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
in the story of Anne Boleyn's miscarriage. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
According to some accounts, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Anne's miscarried child was found to have physical deformities. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Clear evidence to 16th-century minds of evildoing. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Anne miscarries a baby, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
and it's inspected by a midwife who says that it was a boy, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
but it's malformed. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Now, that's of enormous importance. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
The belief was, in the medieval world, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
was that if a woman gave birth to a deformed or a malformed foetus, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
then what everybody would genuinely, thoroughly and sincerely believe | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
is that she's done a truly awful sin. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
And that would be like adultery, like gross adultery, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
or it would be incest, or it might be witchcraft. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
But when she loses the baby, you know, Henry, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
what he sees is conclusive evidence that his wife is not a good woman, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
and that his marriage is not blessed by God. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
And that's the least of his fears. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
I'm certain that he feels that. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
It may be that he goes further and believes that his wife is a witch. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
There's no indication in the contemporary records | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
that this was anything other than a normal pregnancy with a sad end. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
The idea that Anne was delivered of a shapeless mass of flesh | 0:14:44 | 0:14:51 | |
comes along 40 years later, to the best of my knowledge and belief, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
in the work of Nicholas Sanders, who is a Catholic propagandist. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
And a great edifice of speculation has been built up on this, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
so that it's quite hard to remember | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
that there is no evidence at the root of it all. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
This hypothesis, let's call it, is so sensational, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
so hair-raising and, of course, it's attractive to novelists. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
But there is really... | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
It's just hot air. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
We will never know for sure whether it was Anne's miscarriage | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
that sealed her fate, but there is evidence to suggest | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
that by the spring of 1536, Henry was in the grip of a new passion. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
On the 30th March, the King sat down to write a letter, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
something he normally avoided. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
But this was a love letter | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
for one of Anne Boleyn's own ladies-in-waiting... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
..a certain Jane Seymour. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
She was the direct opposite to Anne Boleyn, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
self-effacing, demure, humble, obedient. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
At least, she looked as if she'd be no trouble. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
She is so pale that she virtually doesn't exist. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
She is desperately plain. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
And Henry, like a pendulum, swings from one to the other. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
Although the content of Henry's letter to Jane Seymour is not known, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Jane's reaction to the King's overtures | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
was witnessed by observers. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
She kisses the letter. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Jane hands it back to the messenger, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
saying, "It would be quite improper for me to take this, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
"but please tell the King | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
"that he should send it again | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
"when I should happen to make a good marriage." | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
But she's teasing Henry, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
and after this point, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
he's thinking, "Can I get out of my marriage to Anne?" | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
I don't think that Henry had decided he wanted to get rid of Anne. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
There isn't really any evidence of it. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
In practice, I think that he had worked very hard to get her | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
and wasn't about to throw her away easily. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
Henry does have mistresses, he has about three that we know of, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
and the worst case scenario, I think, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
is that Henry is trying to make Jane his mistress. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
And I certainly don't think that there's any way | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
that one can spin that out and say that's the beginning of the end. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
In the King's eyes, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
was Jane Seymour a new Queen-in-waiting | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
or just a potential royal mistress? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
Whatever Henry's intentions, one thing is beyond doubt. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
By March 1536, his infatuation with Anne Boleyn was over. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
What Henry looked for in a wife was one just like Catherine, please. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
Intelligent, for sure, but knowing her place. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
But Anne continued to be Anne. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
What makes Anne interesting and fascinating, I think, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
is precisely that she's not like Catherine of Aragon. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
She is highly intelligent, articulate. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
She'd seen some of the world, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
she knew scholars and she talked to them, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
she was the friend of poets and intellectuals, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
and she involved herself in matters of religion and state politics | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
and simply won't accept conventional roles as the wife. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Because she had become enmeshed in the diplomatic game, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
because she'd acquired her own expertise, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
she saw herself as a player and as an advisor to Henry, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
but Henry didn't want advice from his wife. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
But was Anne's downfall | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
simply the result of a breakdown in her marriage to Henry? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
In the highly-charged atmosphere of the Tudor court, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
sexual politics weren't the only dangerous forces at work. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
There were other seething tensions in the form of power politics. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
On the 2nd April, King Henry, Anne and the court | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
gathered in the Chapel Royal for the Passion Sunday service. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
The sermon that day was delivered by Anne Boleyn's personal chaplain. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
In nomine Christis. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
His name was John Skip. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
On this day, when we remember the passion of our Saviour, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
we do well to recall his words in the Temple. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
"Which of you can convict me of sin?" | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
For his theme, Skip took on the most controversial issue of the day - | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
religious reform and the dissolution of the monasteries. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
In these days, many men attack the clergy... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:18 | |
but is it for noble reasons? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Or is it because they would have of the clergy their possessions? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
I mean, it's a wonderful piece of political theatre. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
It's a court sermon in front of the assembled King | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
and nobility and the Council, and Skip lays into them. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
It's a wonderful satirical sermon where | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
he essentially criticises everyone. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
But Anne's chaplain appeared to have one particular courtier | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
in his sights. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
Let us not forget the Book of Esther | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and the sins of the wicked counsellor. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
Skip told the biblical story of an evil royal advisor named Haman. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
But few in the chapel could have doubted who his real target was. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
Thomas Cromwell was Henry's chief political counsellor. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
He had risen to power by acting as the King's advisor | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
over his divorce from Catherine and the break with Rome. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Although the fortunes of Cromwell and Anne Boleyn | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
were closely entwined, some believe that by 1536, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
their relationship had reached a crisis point. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Cromwell, by this stage, is minister of everything. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
There's very little business done in England that doesn't cross his desk. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
Cromwell is astute, he's omnicompetent. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
He's as clever as a bag of snakes. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
He's a supreme master of the political game | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
and he was, of course, one of the people | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
who made the marriage possible. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
But political divisions have crept in. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Anne is not, as she had hoped, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Henry's front line political advisor. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Cromwell is. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
And the King said, "Who is in the court?" | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
And his servants said unto him, "Behold! Haman stands in the court." | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
And the King said, "Let him come in." | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
I think that sermon is totally extraordinary. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
To invoke Haman has to be directed, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
absolutely full-on, square, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
at Cromwell himself. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
It's throwing a grenade. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
And to do it in front of the King, in the Chapel Royal, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
surely, it's a declaration of war. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
He has begun to complain, way back in 1534, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
that Anne is turning against him. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
He's said that Anne's threatened him, he said Anne wants his head. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
By 1536, the conflict is ready to explode. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
She said unto him, "The enemy is this wicked Haman." | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
And thanks to this woman, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Haman was hanged from a gallows, 50 cubits high. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I think there is a power rivalry. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
I think Cromwell has come up since 1532. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Anne fears her influence is waning, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
and I think there is this power struggle going on. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
So I think that, you know, Anne is feeling threatened by Cromwell, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
but I think he's also feeling threatened by her. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
I think that's rather far-fetched. I don't really see the analogy. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
I don't quite see what Cromwell should have been the author of, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
that Anne Boleyn would be so opposed to, and the assumption there is that | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
Cromwell is a leading minister, that perhaps he is a controlling minister. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
I see Cromwell as very much the King's servant. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
I'm not convinced that she would campaign | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
to get rid of Cromwell in that way. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I don't think that we can necessarily say | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
that because her chaplain has said something, he's Anne's mouthpiece. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
We are making all sorts of leaps, in order just to use this piece | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
of evidence to suggest that Anne is opposed to Cromwell. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
But sorry, forgive me, why do you have a sermon invoking Haman? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
Why does Cromwell mention it three or four times in conversation? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
Sorry, if this isn't evidence, I don't know what is. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Five centuries on, it's still hard to disentangle | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
the troubled relationship between Anne, Henry and Cromwell. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
Was Anne brought down by a brutal husband who had tired of his wife, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
or by a power struggle with Henry's scheming counsellor? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Two weeks after John Skip's extraordinary sermon, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
a second dramatic encounter in the chapel at Greenwich Palace | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
provides an insight into the tensions within Henry's court. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
On 18th April, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
the Spanish Ambassador Eustace Chapuys arrived at court. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Chapuys' master, Charles V, was the nephew of Catherine of Aragon. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
Charles had refused to recognise Anne Boleyn and even threatened war. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Ambassador Chapuys had come to discuss peace terms with Henry. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
But first, Henry had arranged a little surprise for his guest. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
The King and Queen would sit in the Royal Pew above the Chapel, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
in the body of the Chapel, and then they would come down to offer. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
And there would be like a small staircase coming down, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
so there wasn't much room at the bottom, and Chapuys was there. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
It was such a small space and she had to come face-to-face with him. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
For the past seven years, the Ambassador had refused to meet Anne | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
in person, and insisted on calling her "the whore". | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
Now his hand had been forced. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Henry essentially stages this manoeuvre whereby Chapuys | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
will bow to Anne in the chapel, and this is crucial, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
because this tiny piece of etiquette is a diplomatic coup. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
What Chapuys is doing is, on behalf of the Emperor Charles V, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
he is recognising Anne Boleyn. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
He is conceding, by that gesture, that Henry VIII's break with Rome | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
and his marriage and all that, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
that Henry at least had some justification. That is a major step. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
The Ambassador's gesture has been seen by some as a victory for Anne, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and clear evidence that her recent miscarriage | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
had been forgiven and forgotten by King Henry. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Anne was quite triumphant, yes, absolutely, and to Cromwell | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
it became very clear that Anne had... | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
Well, it looked to Cromwell as if Anne had recovered | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
her ascendancy over Henry, or was actually recovering it. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Henry's championing her again. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Why would Henry VIII have been | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
involved in doing something like this, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
if he knew that, two weeks later, Anne Boleyn would be falling? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
I think it's inconceivable that, at this point, 18th April, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
Henry has resolved on getting rid of Anne Boleyn. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
If Henry was still committed to his wife on 18th April, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
just two weeks before her arrest, then the theory that somebody else | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
engineered Anne's downfall starts to gain credibility. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
And the finger of suspicion points towards Cromwell. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Shortly after the service in the chapel, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
King Henry and Chapuys met, accompanied by Cromwell. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Their subject was the delicate state of England's alliance | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
with Charles V, an alliance that had been broken by Cromwell. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
At some point, Henry appears to turn on Cromwell. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
We don't have a word-to-word account. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
It seems that Cromwell is being accused of making | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
his own foreign policy in cahoots | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
with the Imperial Ambassador, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
and he's gone too far along the line of conciliation. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
And it's tantalising, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
because here is history eavesdropping, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
but we're not quite close enough. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
But it's quite obvious from their body language | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
that a full-scale row is going on here. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Cromwell walks away, he's in terrible distress, physical distress. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
He looks like a man who's on the brink of a heart attack | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
or some other catastrophe. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
It's possible that this was a turning point. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Could his humiliating dressing down from the King | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
have been the moment that Cromwell turned on Anne? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Some historians have argued that there was a great fissure | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
between Cromwell and Anne, that they had been close allies | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
and now, because of these matters of foreign policy | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and the dissolution of the monasteries, that they are separate. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
I don't think that's actually what's going on. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
I think, perhaps one can argue that there might be some struggle | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
for a place in Henry's affections. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Henry tends to rely on one pivotal person, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
and they're both trying to be that person, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
but the evidence for their arguments are really very far and few between. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
It's mostly speculation. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Speculation? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
Maybe. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
The facts are these. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
The next day, Cromwell absented himself from court, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
claiming illness. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:32 | |
While he was away, a series of scandalous rumours about Anne Boleyn | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
began to spread through the court. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
According to some accounts, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
the stories were started by Anne's own ladies-in-waiting. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
One of Anne's ladies, Lady Worcester, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
was being told off by her brother for her loose living. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
She says, "Huh! Don't blame me." | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
"It's nothing to what the Queen gets up to," | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
or words to that effect. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
And to cut a long story short she said, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
"If you think I'm bad, you should see the Queen. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
"She entertains men late at night, including Mark Smeaton," | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
who's a musician at the Queen's court. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
And this was pyrotechnic intelligence. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
The situation then explodes. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Everything accelerates, and the game changes. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
On 30th April, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
the court musician Mark Smeaton was taken in for questioning. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
His interrogator was none other than Thomas Cromwell, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
now fully restored to health. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Nobody knows what happened behind closed doors, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
but the outcome of their little chat would have fatal consequences. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
So he takes him back to his house, and questions him. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
We're not sure whether torture was used. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Some people say there was torture, other people say there wasn't, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
but he remarkably confesses. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
He says, "I had sex with the Queen on three occasions." | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
That could have been fantasy, it could have been, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
if there was torture, you know, who knows? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I probably would confess to having sex with the Queen | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
if I was tortured and I wanted it to stop, wouldn't you? | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Just a few days earlier, Anne's position as Queen had seemed secure. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
Now Cromwell had in his hands | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
apparently damning evidence of her adultery. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Later that day, he informed King Henry of his findings. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
Henry is genuinely staggered by this. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
You know, he has just engineered the rapprochement with Chapuys, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
he's sorted out the diplomatic situation to make his marriage | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
to Anne acceptable in European eyes, everything is fine. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
And then very suddenly, he has this bombshell dropped on him. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
It's his worst fears. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
This is the woman that he moved hell and high water to be with, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
waited seven long years to marry, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
put aside his wife of nearly 24 years to be with, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
changed the very religion of England to have, and she's betrayed him. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
Oh, dear, people don't understand Henry, do they? | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
The best and the most convincing liars believe their own lies. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
Henry has an amazing gift for persuading himself | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
that whatever is convenient is true. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
Henry believes it because it's convenient... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
..and then he persuades others. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
But isn't this politics throughout the ages? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
The King gave orders for Anne to be arrested, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
and instructed Cromwell to launch a full investigation. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
An atmosphere of paranoia and panic swept through the court, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
as Cromwell drew up his list of suspects. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
As soon as this begins to happen, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
people start to rush to distance themselves from Anne. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
They're all looking over their shoulder. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
This is a court of terror. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Everybody is playing with fire. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Everybody at Henry's court | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
is and knows they are a whisker away from execution. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Confused and terrified, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
the Queen now found herself a prisoner in the Tower of London. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
She alternates between a sense that the law will save her, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
she's innocent, that will come out, won't it? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Henry's just testing her, isn't he? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
And gradually she then realises that Henry isn't testing her, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
and her innocence won't save her, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:00 | |
and the law won't help her if Henry doesn't want it to. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
And she's desperately trying to think what it is she's done, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
I think, you know, if she's been accused of having sex | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
with men about her, who could they be? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Within days, no fewer than seven men were under arrest | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
for allegedly having illegal intercourse with the Queen. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
Among them was Anne's own brother, George Boleyn. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
In the indictment which we have, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
we don't have all the trial documents, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
but in the indictment, we have these accounts of Anne being accused | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
of "having traitorously procuring and inciting | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
"her own natural brother George Boleyn to violate her, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
"and alluring him with her tongue in the said George's mouth, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
"and the said George's tongue in hers." | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
And so it goes on, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
and it plays to this idea that women are naturally lustful. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
And, of course, this is actually not just lustful, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
but it's almost of the devil. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
Sex with five people, one of them your brother! | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
This is deliberately pornographic. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
On the other hand, remember, Anne has broken every rule | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
in the political, religious and moral universe. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
As she's inverted the moral and religious universe, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
why shouldn't she have slept with every man she came across? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
It's precisely the magnitude of the charges that makes them convincing. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:22 | |
But amidst the torrent of lurid allegations, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Anne stood accused of one particularly monstrous crime. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
According to rumours at court, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
she had been overheard talking with Sir Henry Norris a few days earlier. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Norris was not only a leading member of Henry's Privy Chamber, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
he was also one of the King's closest companions. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
And the content of their discussion was to prove highly inflammatory. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
So they've been in her chamber | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
and she's asked him why he hasn't got married yet, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
and he says that he'd like to tarry a time, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
and she responds, and this is the crucial line, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
"You look for dead men's shoes, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
"for if ought came to the King but good, you would look to have me." | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
In other words, she's saying, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
"You want to marry me when my husband's dead, don't you?" | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
Speculating about the King's death is an extremely dangerous matter. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:24 | |
It's a short step from saying, "One day Henry will die," | 0:37:24 | 0:37:31 | |
to saying, "And I hope it's soon." | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
And it's a short step from saying, "I hope it's soon", | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
to saying, "Let's accelerate it." | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
So Norris and Anne are coming very close to treason. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
On top of multiple charges of adultery and incest, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
Anne now stood accused of an even more serious crime. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
Plotting the death of the King. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Henry's not going to say innocent until proved guilty. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
The breath of suspicion is enough. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Rumours are already leaking out all over Europe. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
Whatever there is out of this, Henry has lost face terribly, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
if it can even be hinted that his wife might be unfaithful to him. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:29 | |
So Henry's going quietly mad. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
In the 16th century, a wife's adultery | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
is thought to suggest her husband's lack of sexual dominance, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
and this obviously doesn't play very well on Henry, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
but it plays even worse when you realise that, actually, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
it's about being able to govern the household. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
If you can't govern a household, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
how can you choose to suggest you can rule a realm? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Henry now hid himself away in his palace | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
and authorised Cromwell to organise a trial. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
Anne never saw her husband again. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
If a power struggle had broken out between Anne and Cromwell, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
then Henry's advisor now had Anne exactly where he wanted her. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
Now, where is Cromwell in this? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
He will say later to the Imperial Ambassador, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
"I went back to my house..." | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
"..and I dreamt it up." | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
But I don't suppose for one moment that Cromwell had dreamt up | 0:39:31 | 0:39:38 | |
a stage-by-stage, perfectly controlled process | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
which would end in Anne's destruction. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
What he could do was put people under a bit of pressure, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
by asking questions, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
and then sit back and see what they do, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
and he may himself be surprised at the readiness of the courtiers | 0:40:02 | 0:40:09 | |
to say incriminating things about her. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
I don't think there was a pre-arranged, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:19 | |
highly intricate conspiracy. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
What I think happened was a series of events, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
which spiralled out of control, took everyone by surprise. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:33 | |
Cromwell was the one who saw how to play them. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
I don't think that works as an argument, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I mean, anyone could have done this. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
I mean, you have to sort of look for real evidence | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
that someone did do this, and there's much more holding Anne | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
and Cromwell together than there is forcing them apart. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
The idea that they suddenly become enemies, I think, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
is not based on the evidence. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
You know, he had been handed, if I can change metaphors, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
a really hot potato, and he wasn't happy to be investigating adultery | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
in the Queen's Privy Chamber. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:03 | |
You know, that is such a difficult thing to do. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
He's in a minefield and every step he could take could lead | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
to his own disaster, his own ruin, so, I guess, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
in a sense, he would have hoped Smeaton hadn't confessed, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
but Smeaton did confess. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
And after that, he had to follow it up. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
It was Cromwell. He's the guilty party in this. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
I think this is one of the most shocking and audacious plots | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
in English history. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
Cromwell masterminded it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
He got the evidence and the evidence was laid before the King, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
and it was compelling. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
Cromwell later tells Chapuys that he thought up and plotted | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
the affair of the Queen, in which he had taken a great deal of trouble. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
But, I mean, I'm tempted to say, "He would say that, wouldn't he?" | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
The alternative is to say, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
"No, I had absolutely no idea what was going on until someone told me." | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
But if you look at the evidence, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
he just wasn't involved until Henry brought him in. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
The only piece of evidence that's used to say that it was a coup, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
is a line in a letter from Eustace Chapuys, the Imperial Ambassador. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Cromwell has said to him, and it's written in French, the original, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
that he's set himself to conspire and think up the said affair. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
But the problem is, historians don't always tell you | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
everything you need to know, and what you need to know | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
in this instance is the line before, the context. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
The crucial line before, is that he himself, Cromwell, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
had been commissioned by the King to put to an end the mistress's trial. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
So it actually means that the context is very much | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
that Cromwell himself admits that Henry has told him to do it. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
Almost 500 years later, the full extent of Thomas Cromwell's role | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
in Anne's downfall is still hard to pin down. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
Was he the author of a plot against Anne, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
or was he simply following orders? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
The final driver of everything under Henry, is Henry. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
And it is very clear indeed, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
it's driven by the fact that Henry wants to get rid of her. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
She's undercut, very seriously, by that miscarriage. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
But if she'd carried that child to term, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
she would have been absolutely secure. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
It wouldn't have mattered about Jane Seymour, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
it wouldn't have mattered about what the King felt about her. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
It's also that she was creating serious trouble at court. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
Her arrogance, the way that she bad-mouths, to their faces, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
leading members of the court. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
It breaks etiquette, it treads on toes. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
As relations between Anne, Henry and Cromwell | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
all become increasingly fraught, the signal must come from Henry. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
"I am fed up. We want this woman out of the way." | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
We will probably never know precisely how far Anne's downfall | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
was orchestrated by Henry or Cromwell. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
But could there be a simpler explanation for the events of 1536, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
rooted in the relationship between sex and politics | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
in the highly charged world of the Tudor court? | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
I think that Henry really believes these rumours. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
I don't think Henry tired of her, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
and I don't think it was a court coup by Cromwell. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
What I think it is, is a game of courtly love gone wrong. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
In the 16th century, women had to be very chaste | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
in order to maintain their honour, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
but at the same time, for women of the court, for someone like Anne, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
it was necessary that she be attractive and alluring | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
and talk of love. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
And she was surrounded by men who were paying court to her, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
essentially, who would sing her songs, who would write her poetry. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
And so there is this tightrope that they're trying to walk | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
between appearing entirely chaste, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
but appearing entirely available at the same time. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
Queens have a difficult task. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
You know, they tell her that she is their mistress, that they love | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
her above all other women and that their hearts ache for her presence. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
She's in a world where she has to behave flirtatiously. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
That's that line that you can cross so easily, and what Anne does | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
in that conversation with Norris is cross that line definitively | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
and at the wrong moment and in the wrong terms. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
And that's the moment that destroys her, I think. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
There's no grand conspiracy theory that they're hatching. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
To imagine the death of the King is technically a crime, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
and is politically a disastrous thing to do. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
So it's not a cynical destruction of an innocent woman, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
it's a destruction of an innocent woman | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
who appeared to conform to various patterns of guilt. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
And if you happen to be an egotistical monster, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
as Henry VIII was, you want to act decisively. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
And he does act decisively. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
He destroys the people he thinks have betrayed him. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
Less than two weeks after their arrest, five men, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
including Mark Smeaton... | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
..Henry Norris, and Anne's brother George Boleyn, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
were tried and convicted of adultery and treason and sentenced to death. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
With the single exception of Mark Smeaton, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
all of them protested their innocence. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
On 15th May, it was Anne's turn. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
'My Lords, I am willing to believe you have reasons | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
'for what you have done,' | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
but they must be other than those which have been produced in court. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
For I am innocent of all the charges you lay against me. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
I have been a faithful wife to the King... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
..and as for my brother... | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
..and those others who are unjustly condemned... | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
..since it so please the King... | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
..I am willing to accompany them to death... | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
..with this assurance... | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
..that I shall lead an endless life with them of peace and joy. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
For I shall pray to God for the King... | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
..and for you, my Lords. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
Before a panel of 26 peers of the realm, Anne defended herself ably. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:04 | |
But it was no use. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:05 | |
The decision was a foregone conclusion. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
Her courage throughout all this ordeal is just remarkable, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
and at her trial, her composure, her dignity were admirable, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
and when this dreadful sentence is passed, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
they said her face didn't change. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
And she said, "Oh, Father, oh, Creator, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
"thou who art the way, the life and the truth | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
"knowest whether I have deserved this death." | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
I think she was already reconciled by then to the fact she would die. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
Anne Boleyn's fall had been so sudden and so spectacular, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
that today, many believe she was the victim of a terrible injustice. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
But there is one other possible explanation | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
for the extraordinary events of 1536. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
Why do we all assume that Anne Boleyn must have been innocent? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
Maybe we should pause and ask whether Anne Boleyn | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
was wholly innocent of the charges of adultery, treason, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
that were brought against her, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:11 | |
and ponder whether perhaps there might have been something in them. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
In the absence of any hard evidence of a conspiracy, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
one scholar at least believes Anne could have been guilty as charged. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
Henry, I think, is committed to his marriage. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
Then something happens to call his marriage into question, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
and it happens suddenly. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
And this is where the accusations made by the Countess of Worcester, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:39 | |
Anne's lady, seem to acquire a greater degree of plausibility. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
It makes sense. After all, she would be in a position | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
to know what she was talking about. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
It's difficult to see what motive she would have for making it up, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
because she must have realised it's a serious charge. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
With Smeaton, the difficulty is to explain | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
why he should have confessed. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Now, he may have been tortured. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
The sources are divided about that, torture is not something | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
which is commonly in use in Henry VIII's England, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
but there it is, he did confess and he never withdraws his confession. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:17 | |
He never denies or says that he's made it under pressure. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
Anne Boleyn, her comments hint again at a rather intimate relationship, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:26 | |
she teasing him. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
It's unusual. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
And even the Duke of Norfolk, a relative, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
describes her as a great whore at one point. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
So it is just possible. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
And in the end, my hunch would be that Anne Boleyn | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
did sleep with Mark Smeaton and Henry Norris. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Whether or not Anne Boleyn was guilty of adultery | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
with her courtiers, some believe she could have committed | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
an even more shocking offence. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Not in the pursuit of personal pleasure, | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
but for reasons of political expediency. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
To have an incestuous relationship with her brother seems, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
to most modern minds, really most unlikely and very troubling. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
They weren't brought up as brother and sister at all. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
She was away to France, so they meet pretty well as strangers. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
We certainly know that Anne is determined enough | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
to take extraordinary decisions. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
You're talking about someone very, very ruthless. Very ruthless indeed. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
So I think it's perfectly possible to imagine that they might decide | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
to have intercourse in order to conceive a child, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
especially if, as we know, they believe that the King | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
was incapable of fathering a child. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
In those circumstances, I think she's capable of it. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
I'd ask you to think of the cure and the illness. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
"My husband is only occasionally potent. I'd better have sex | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
"with my own brother in order to produce a son | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
"that he can then believe is his." | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
It doesn't quite work, I think, as an argument. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
No matter how desperate you are, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
you don't have sex with your own brother! | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
All the accusations that are made against Anne | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
give various dates and say "Anne and, you know, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
"at Hampton Court on 7th December 1533 did traitorously procure | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
"and incite said man to violate her." | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
And we can disprove three quarters of them by proving that Anne wasn't | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
in that palace at that time, or the man in question wasn't there. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
They are made up. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
But they're made up in order to achieve an end, which is | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
to make sure that Anne doesn't come out of this alive. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
On the 17th May 1536, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
Anne Boleyn looked on from a window in the Tower, as the five men | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
accused with her, including her brother, were put to death. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
It's a very chilling picture of Anne | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
that we have in these last days in the Tower. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
She prays a lot, that she cries, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
that she says that she wishes | 0:53:24 | 0:53:25 | |
the executioner would come sooner, so that her ordeal could be ended. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
She's lost her title, she's lost her marriage, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
she won't see her daughter again. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
It's an extraordinary fall, it's a very, very dramatic fall | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
and then they tell her the swordsman's arrived. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
There remains one final piece of evidence. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
At dawn on the 18th May, the day she was due to be executed, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:54 | |
Anne prepared her soul for death. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
-PRIEST: -In nomine patri, et filii, et spiritus sancti. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
In the presence of a number of witnesses, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
Anne received the last sacrament. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
Corpus domini nostri, Jesu Christi, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
custodiat corpus tuam et animam tuam in vitam aeternam. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:27 | |
Amen. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Finally, the Queen made her last solemn confession. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
In the sight of God, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
do you recall any sins you have not yet confessed? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
I swear upon the eternal damnation of my soul... | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
..I have been a true wife... | 0:54:55 | 0:54:56 | |
..and never have I offended with my body against the King. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
Crucially, she swears, on peril of her soul's damnation, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
both before and after taking the Eucharist, that she's innocent. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
And this is a very serious act in this religious age. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
If you know that you're going to meet your maker | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
in the next day or so, you're not going to take risks. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:28 | |
For me, her final confession, it's key evidence, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
because she's facing what she believes will be divine judgment, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
it's her final confession, and she made a declaration, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
she had never offended with her body against the King. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
You might think that she's perhaps being a little bit too specific here | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
and that she hadn't offended with her body, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
but had she offended with her heart? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
We don't know. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
During the course of her short life, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
Anne Boleyn had risen from obscurity to become a Queen. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
She had taken the Tudor court and the King by storm, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
and her marriage to Henry | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
changed the course of British history for ever. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
But on 19th May 1536, Anne was taken from her lodging | 0:56:24 | 0:56:29 | |
in the Tower of London to a scaffold nearby. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Among the onlookers was Thomas Cromwell. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
King Henry stayed away. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
Shortly after 9am, one of history's most remarkable women | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
met her brutal end, and 500 years of argument began. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:57 | |
When it comes to the mystery of Anne Boleyn's fall, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
there's just enough evidence to keep historians guessing, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
but just enough gaps to make sure | 0:57:08 | 0:57:09 | |
they can never finally get to the solution. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
I think the evidence strongly suggests that Cromwell | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
had Anne framed, or framed her himself, and he's the guilty party | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
in this, it's judicial murder. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
She's a victim of a husband who decides to kill her. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
It's not suicide in the Tower, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
it's Henry's order that she's taken out and beheaded. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
He doesn't just stop at divorce, it's got to be death for him. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
That's wicked. That's wicked behaviour. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
I don't think it does any favours to Anne | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
to cast her as a victim. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
She was not a victim. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
She was a woman who chose to step into the tough political game. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:55 | |
She made her calculations. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
She played a winning hand. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
Ultimately, she lost. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:05 |