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What's your message to Michael Gove? | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
Did you betray Boris, Mr Gove? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
MUSIC: The Man Comes Around by Jonny Cash | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
# There's a man going round taking names | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
# And he decides who to free and who to blame... # | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Erm... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
Erm... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
Well, from what I can remember, anyway. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Let's just remember who the contenders actually were. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
INTERVIEWER: So we've got Theresa May... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
# When the man comes around | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
# The hairs on your arm will stand up... # | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Yeah, yeah - I'm starting to feel his... | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
# At the terror in each sip and in each sup | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
# Will you partake of that last offered cup? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
# Or disappear into the potter's ground? # | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
How... How do you know this actually happened as it did? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Have you got some of Boris's team speaking to you? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
-Yeah. -Who? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
..completely protected. I just worry that... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I don't think Andrew was at that party, no. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-You'd have to check that. -You're a disgrace, Johnson! | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
And the strange thing is, the dafter it sounds, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-the more true to Boris it actually is. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
# Voices callin', voices cryin' | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
# Some are born and some are dyin' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
# It's alpha and omega's kingdom come. # | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
The total number of votes cast in favour of Leave was... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
-eighty-two thousand... -WILD CHEERING | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
The result will come as a hammer blow to Mr Cameron. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Can he stay in office with his authority drained by a defeat? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
And with Britain voting to leave the EU, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
all eyes this morning are on Number 10 Downing Street. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
What's the news from behind you? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Well, the street is absolutely packed. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I think I can show you the pictures of not just of course | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
the British press, but of course many, many members | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
of the international press filling up Downing Street, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
the Prime Minister's official residence, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
this morning. Huge anticipation here. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
The big question mark is whether or not he will address | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
the matter of his own departure. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Now, senior Tories I've been talking to do not think this is the moment | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
for David Cameron suddenly to say he's up and off, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
but that doesn't mean there aren't conversations going on about this. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Boss? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
That doesn't mean he's about to come out of the door | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
and resign, not at all. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
Am I doing the right thing? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
Absolutely. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
Good morning, everyone. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
The British people have made a very clear decision to take | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
a different path, and as such I think the country | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
I will do everything I can as Prime Minister | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
to steady the ship over the coming... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
This, I think, had a dimension to it which is unparalleled, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
and that is that we have just campaigned, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
we have divided the family, the family has been | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
at each other's throats, really, through the campaign. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
The Remainers and Leavers | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
in the Conservative family, we've split apart, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
and it's such a big issue that, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
you know, the tensions and the animosities | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
were very great indeed through it. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Hello. We are live outside Boris Johnson's house... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
I remember while he was upstairs, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
I was having a shave in the downstairs loo | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
opposite the front door, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
and Ben Gascoigne, one of his aides, had looked through the keyhole | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
and he looked back at me and he said, "Oh, my God, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
"it's Kay Burley of Sky News, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
"and she appears to be broadcasting live." | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Could he be the next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Certainly, could he mount a leadership challenge? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Now, I've got my earpiece in... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
And I remember at that moment, I kind of... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
How big this was sort of dawned on us. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
CHEERING | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
-MAN: -Go on, Boris! | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I think it did come as a shock | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
that the Prime Minister was standing down, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
and I think from that point on, everything changed. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
The speech, I think we realised, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
became potentially the speech of the next potential Prime Minister. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
I believe we now have a glorious opportunity. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
We can pass our laws, and set... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
So, who are you going to vote for? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Haven't thought about it. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
You know Boris is going to win. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Gavin, you're a bit fucked now. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
-Who are you going to vote for? -I've heard it has to be Theresa. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
I wouldn't go for Theresa. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Word is her campaign's going to be completely shambolic. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
-Really? -Well, she hasn't exactly | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
been drumming up support in the tearooms. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
She's going to have a hell of a time mobilising a campaign. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
OK. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Thanks for the advice, Jackie. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
It's Gavin. Look, if there's anything I can do to help, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
just let me know. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
And for fuck's sake, get her to stand. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Nobody has been as plugged in at the centre or knows the party | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
quite as well as Gavin because for the last couple of years, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
he has been intimately involved in dealing with | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
every single person in the House of Commons. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
So for us, as a brand-new, nascent campaign | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
with absolutely no flag run up the pole at all, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
we've been approached by possibly | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
the most influential person who could help us out. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
So, we decided it would be left to a certain individual, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
who will remain nameless, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
to put together a meeting place for us that would be jolly secret | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
and miles from anywhere and completely safe. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Is this your idea of a top-secret meeting place? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Boss. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Not very discreet, is it? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
-Well? -We were wondering... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
..erm, if it's a good time to, you know... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
..isn't it make up your mind time, Theresa? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Is it really? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
I thought there was three years still to go. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
It's just, others have already started their campaigns. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
You mean Boris? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
And George. He's been inviting people to Number 11. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Mm, I'd heard he was using Number 11. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
What are you having? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
Look, we need to test the waters. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Every single time we started trying to talk and Theresa tried to | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
say something, somebody - our waitress - would lean in. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-Look, I appreciate... -Croquetas. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
..your support, and I understand the risks you're running, but... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Croquetas. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
I have to say, that was perhaps not our finest hour. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
There are a lot of people we know who want a grown-up | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
as leader of the party, not a comedian or a gambler. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
And that is you, Theresa. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-I am aware... -Gambas. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-Sorry? -Oh, she knows. She knows. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Oh, good, well, just give us the signal, boss. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
But as I've always said... | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Empanada. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
..not until there's a vacancy. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
-Gambas. -What? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Not until there's a vacancy. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
She was quite clear that she was not going to prepare | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
for a leadership contest. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
We were not going out trying to persuade people | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
to vote for Theresa May, the forthcoming candidate for election, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
because there wasn't an election, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
and that would've been completely dissonant - it's not who she is, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and she told us that's not what she wanted to do. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
OK, so let's NOT prepare for government. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
We started to have conversations about how the "selectorate" - | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
ie the Members of Parliament - could get to know Boris, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
cos of course he hadn't been in Parliament for a very long time. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
So we had a series of curry nights to garner support for Boris. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Everyone who went I think enjoyed the opportunity to see kind of... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
It was like Boris unplugged. So you went to his home, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
where he lives with his family, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
and it really gave colleagues the opportunity to understand | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
what he was about, what sort of Prime Minister he would make. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
So, how many coming tonight for the old Boris treatment? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Half a dozen at least. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Poor Marina. No-one turns down a social with Boris. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Is that the latest report? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-Has Boris seen it? -Yeah, he commissioned it. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-And? -It's early days, but if Boris stands in 2020, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
he wins. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
Our future PM. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
And you're looking at your new Chief Whip. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Splendid! | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
Just hope I stay the course. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Let's hope George doesn't snatch it from us at the last minute. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Good job we all like curries. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Oh, here we go. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
Do your thing. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Come in, come in! | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Hello! Nice to see you. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
The members of the House are here! | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Did you find it easily enough? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
A bit off the beaten track. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
I've always wondered where he lived. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-Thanks for the invite. -Not at all. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Boris has always wanted to catch up with you. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
It's important you 2015ers stick together. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Hello! You have to come and try this. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
-Do you like curry? -I do. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
Oh, right, OK... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
-They love him. -Everybody does. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Prepare for government. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
In this process, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
which is a very democratic process | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
of a Conservative leadership election, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
all of my colleagues - whether they be the party leader, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
whether they be candidate ministers | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
or the newest backbench colleagues - | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
each of us has one vote. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
Nobody else in the world matters | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
than the 331 Conservative MPs that there were, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
because it's their votes over the next few days | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
that are going to count. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
The 111 is a slightly arcane and strange figure that just | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
looks like it's plucked out of nowhere, but it's not. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
It's the number you would need to guarantee you were going to | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
get into the second round of the contest. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
And all of a sudden, whatever the thoughts of 331 Conservative MPs | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
in the Westminster bubble, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
they are just 331 out of several hundred thousand | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
members of the Conservative Party | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
who have that final say and have a vote in the leadership. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
RADIO: The question of course now is who will step into | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
what is really a leadership vacuum in the immediate aftermath | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
of the referendum. Well, I can tell you that | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
the Home Secretary, Theresa May, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
is canvassing opinion among Conservative MPs, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and in the coming days | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
she is likely to announce that she will run... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Morning, boss. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
So, we need to decide what we're going to do with Gavin. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Well, he's a Cameroon, for a start. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I say that's exactly why we need him. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Hm. But do we need to be associated with the losing side? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
We've worked bloody hard keeping our powder dry - | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
why risk wetting it now? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I say he's tapped in, right at the very heart of it. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Yes, but between us we have the same resources and we've got half | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
the bloody whips working for us. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
-Thank you. -It's your call, boss. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
I think you've convinced me that we need him. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-I did? -Yes. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Well, we don't want someone like him working against us. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
PHONE LINE RINGS | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
The reason it was so useful to have Gavin on board is not just that | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
connection with the centre of the party. I guess it was twofold. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
First of all, you don't want that on the other side of the argument. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
I mean, you don't want that being done for somebody else. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
It's fantastic to have him there doing that. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
Even though there was a lot of capability in the room, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
you certainly don't want that happening elsewhere. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
-Gavin. -Home Secretary. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Just calling to find out if you were serious. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I was. Still am. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
Jesus, I'd love to! | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
I was actually really surprised that | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
he would go so quickly from being | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
David Cameron's PPS to backing a leadership candidate. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
I'll promise you one thing - I'll get you on the bloody ballot. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
I'll need to make office, though. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Come on. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
All right, then I have a condition. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
When we win this thing, and we bloody well will, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
I need someone gone. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
Who? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
I won't work with him. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
He'll be here in an hour. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Well, as we were saying, it'll be great to have Gavin on board. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
The signal to the rest of the parliamentary party that Gavin, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
who would be very highly respected | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
by a lot of people... Respected might not be the word | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
some people would use, either - fear perhaps, slightly, or... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Everyone knew who Gavin Williamson was and everyone knows who he is, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
and he's a powerful character. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
To have him say, "Yes, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"Theresa May is the person I think ought to be the new Prime Minister," | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
would...that's extremely valuable. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
I think it was a shock to all of us and we thought, right, you know, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
we're going to have a real fight on here. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
WOMAN: Boris Johnson met allies at his home today. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
It's thought he'll say he'll stand within days. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
Well, Boris asked his team to meet him at his home in Oxfordshire. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Prior to that, he called me to say | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
that he'd been speaking with Michael Gove and asked me what I thought | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
if Michael was to come on board. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
And clearly, as someone who was a potential runner at that time, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
I was supportive. I said, "Yeah, let's meet him." | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
So we were told that Michael would be joining us on the day. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
He said, interestingly enough, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
that Michael Gove's price for this was that Boris promised that if | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
he became Prime Minister, he would make Michael Gove | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
the Chancellor of the Exchequer. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-How many? -A couple of photographers and a TV van at the end of the road. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
I'm going to go out and see if I can reason with them. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
'I was pretty shocked when I arrived | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
'that there was a camera crew outside. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
'Everything we had done up until that point' | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
had never, ever leaked. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
There's no respite from these people. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:28 | |
I thought we'd be safe here today. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
I... Can't we just tell them to get lost? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
No, it's a public road, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
and even if it wasn't, it wouldn't make any difference. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Right, if you go for a little walk with the photographers and answer | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
a couple of questions, they'll fuck off for the rest of the day. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
It's a good idea. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
And be quick - before Gove turns up. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Christ, if they get a picture of Gove arriving, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
they'll announce your leadership | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
and we'll look like a bunch of bungling amateurs. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
And, for God's sake, before you go out, put a shirt on. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
So it was agreed with the media crew that they would take one shot of | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
Boris walking - actually, he was walking with me - | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
and then they would leave, but no interview would be given. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Mr Johnson, any message of reassurance for the country? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Morning. Good morning. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
There are millions of very scared voters at the moment | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
who are just looking for a message from their leader. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Then, after that agreement was reached, the press crew left. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
RADIO: We know that Boris Johnson is also almost inevitably going to | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
put his hat in the ring this week too, with Michael Gove, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
who had been pressured by some of his colleagues to stand, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
co-chairing his campaign to become the leader | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
rather than standing himself. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
His campaign will be co-chaired by Northern Ireland Minister | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Ben Wallace, who was part of the Remain camp... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
So, Michael Gove arrives. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
He had three other people with him. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
Ah, Gover! | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
Erm, wanted to talk to you about how all this should work. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
I think someone should chair the meeting. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-I thought perhaps... -I -might chair the meeting. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
Ah! | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Hello, everyone. Thanks a bundle for coming up. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
We've got work to do but, you know, if you fancy a swim, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
a game of tennis, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
wiff waff, be my guest. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
-Right, so, shall we get started? -Of course, of course. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
But, you know, if you brought your cossie, you know, you might... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
No, good, right. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Well, here we all are! | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
The kingdom at our feet, there for the taking. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Young hoplites, let us into battle | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and see what the enemy is made of! | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Right, who wants a drink? Beer, wine? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Just tap water, thanks. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Almost as soon as they arrived, really, the dynamic changed. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
I think it became fairly apparent | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
that perhaps this was a team trying to muscle in rather quickly, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
having just introduced themselves as joining the team, if you like. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
So...we were thinking that the best thing to do would be to set up | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
an information-gathering system, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
which could be organised by one party who then filters it through | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
to a second party who can then delegate these tasks. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
So Henry's been working on a master spreadsheet with all of | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Michael's intelligence, categorised into likely conversation. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
So we should probably get your data | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
and start inputting onto our spreadsheet. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
What the fuck are you talking about? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:33 | |
It means they want to know | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
everything we've been doing for the past 18 months. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
I guess there was a little bit of suspicion, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
and they were very keen to know our data and our numbers, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
how many MPs we had on side. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Well, why don't you show us your spreadsheets | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
so we know what sort of information you want from us? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Ah, we just thought that with Michael chairing the campaign... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Ben's chairing the campaign. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Michael, are you or Ben chairing this campaign? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
We are going to co-chair the campaign. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Look, Ben's been with me a long time. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
You've obviously got a top team too, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
so let's all work together. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
OK, so, comms - who's doing comms? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
-Will, of course. -Oh, what about Paul and Dominic? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
We'd need to see what they have to say. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Why don't we wait and see what Lynton has to say tomorrow? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Lynton? Michael, do you know about this? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Well, that's why we're here. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Look, it's been a long haul for all of us | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
and we've all done brilliantly. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:28 | |
But maybe it's time for some fresh legs, yeah? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
We're lucky Lynton's available. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Of course we are, but don't you think... PHONE BUZZES | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
..it would've been better to have run it past everybody first | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
before you just went in there? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Not really - Lynton's not a man you muck around, I'm afraid. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Thanks for letting us know. I owe you a drink. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
You guys have got to go. Someone's tipped off the press. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
They're on their way. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
I only just got rid of them all this morning. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Apparently, Michael's wife got fed up with them in her bins, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
so...she sent them here. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Thanks, Sarah(!) | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
So we may have had our own style. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
It may have been a bit more relaxed. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
We may have not been quite as uptight as they were. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
I mean, I think that the teams are very different around Boris | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
and Michael, and I think just generally in Westminster | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
that the teams, the special advisers, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
the relationships that they strike up, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
you know, it is very important. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
The exhausting factor is that sometimes you spend as much time | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
kind of marshalling or sorting out, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
you know, disputes, or who said what to whom, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
or who's briefed the media on this, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
than you do actually planning the campaign. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-NEWS READER: -Lynton Crosby is grabbing many of the headlines. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
He is one of the most powerful people in British politics who | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
you might not have heard of because he's very much a backroom boy, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
brought in by the Conservatives at a General Election because of his | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
knack of being able to win elections. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
You've not met Cronus, then? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
Oh, come on. This is all a load of bollocks, isn't it? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Well, no. Apparently, if you piss Gavin off, he puts him down on | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
the desk and lets all eight legs crawl towards you. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Pets aren't allowed in the Commons, for fuck's sake. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
You know, I'm just saying... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
This is Gavin, as I'm sure you all know. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
He'll be leading our campaign. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Well, I'll leave him in your capable hands. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Let's go. I need to put across the numbers in the rise in hate crime. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Shall we get started? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
Theresa is present at the beginning of that meeting on Sunday, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
and she's basically there | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
to introduce Gavin as the campaign manager for the group, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
and then after she's done that, basically she's on her way. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Who do you want to speak to first? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Well, we might as well tick off everyone in the room. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
That's six easy ones right there. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Would you do the honours? Let's deal with the cliques. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Who runs them? Can we get them on board? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Gavin is orchestrating us, going through the entire list. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
We're sticking our hands up, saying, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
"Yeah, I'll talk to her," or, "I'll talk to him," | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
"I did this on this select committee," | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
"I've talked to them about that," | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
"They're in my flock," whatever it is. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Well, I'm on a committee with that one - | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
should be able to get him on board. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Oh, I know him - I'll ring him. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
-I know which buttons to press. -So do I. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
If you say so. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
No, we'll just...see how it goes. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Hi, yeah, it's me. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
Yes, yes! | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
So... Great. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Yes, I know. Yeah, great. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
I'll see you soon. OK, bye. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
Cheers. Bye. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
All right, he's in! | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
-And he's on the phone to four others. -Well done. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
When's he prepared to tell the press? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Ah, we didn't get onto that. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
Right. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
So that's a question mark for him. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
Date and time. And a double question mark for the other four. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
I can't do much with a question mark. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
Question marks don't tell you anything. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
I knew a question mark, turns out he'd voted for every candidate. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Trust me - he's not a question mark. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
I've known him for 25 years. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
I'll know if I need to push him. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
OK. Good. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
We've only got 323 Tory MPs to go! | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
And we did hear at a quite early stage, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
and I think it might even have been on the night, on the Sunday night | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
when we were sitting there, someone said, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
"I've just seen a tweet that Boris announced he'd got his 110, 111." | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Are you going to stand for leader, Boris? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Are you going to stand for leader? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
And, you know, that's a moment when you feel not knocked over, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
but you feel like there's a serious job to be done, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
because if somebody's automatically in the second round already, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
you know, you've got to be somebody up at that same level, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and that's a serious challenge. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
MUSIC: Memphis Soul Stew by King Curtis | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
# Give me about half a teacup | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
# Of bass... # | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
NEWS READER: The race to Downing Street is certainly on. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Well, it's, you know, it's bubble gum and strings. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Just a whole bunch of people with telephones. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
A lot of phone-calling, a lot of face-to-face meetings. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Running around the Houses of Parliament | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
and sort of having conversations in corners and talking to people | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and finding the people on their list | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
and running round to PCH, Portcullis House. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
There's nothing more Machiavellian, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
lots of conversations in corners, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
than when there's a leadership contest | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
involving the Conservative Party happening in Parliament. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
The most... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
The most dishonest electorate in history, basically, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
because they've no reason to be honest. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
You know, you might bump into someone and you might say, you know, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
"How do you think this race is looking?" | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and they might say one or two things, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
and if you feel that you want to sort of steer them | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
towards your preferred candidate you might say, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
"Well, I'm sure Boris," or whoever it might be, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
"would want to have a chat." | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
So, on the Monday night, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:44 | |
Boris came to my office in the House of Commons. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Boris actually said, "I'd really like you to back my campaign." | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
Nicky. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
Yes, I know. Well, I think | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
she is exactly what the party needs at the moment. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Gavin phoned me on the Monday and he said, "Look, you know, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
"Theresa would very much like to see you and to sit down with you." | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
And he just left it open. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Well, tell me, Nicky - you know I've always got time for you. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Good. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
Gavin, you know, knows everybody incredibly well. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
He knows every single Member of Parliament's | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
inside leg measurement. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
I mean, this is a bloke who... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
who really has taken the time and trouble to know everybody - | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
the ins and the outs, the good, the bad, the rumours... | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
-..and otherwise. -Yeah, and your mother, and your sister. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Yeah, and your donkey. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
I want to see the two clear frontrunners | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
now that the Prime Minister has resigned, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
who are Boris Johnson and Theresa May, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
I'd like to see them come together to give some unity and stability | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
for our party without the need for a leadership contest | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
if we can possibly avoid it... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
So, Justine Greening and Anne Milton had organised | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
a face-to-face meeting for Boris to go | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
and have a chat with Theresa May. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
-I took him down there. -Morning. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
I know that he was hoping that from that meeting Theresa May would agree | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
to team up with him and support him as Prime Minister. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
KNOCKING | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
What's in the diary today? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
Erm, pretty key meetings with MPs. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Sorry. New faces from the recent intakes? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Yes, but you should recognise this one. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
BORIS: I can imagine what she wants to discuss. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Obvious to me. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
You're way out in front - | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
she's looking to make a deal. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
Deputy PM. She's not going to have Foreign Secretary. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
I'm not giving that to her. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Just keep her at the Home Office. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
That way she gets to follow through with immigration | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
and keep tabs on her beloved constituency. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Yeah. Yeah, definitely pay to keep her on side, yes, absolutely. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
Thank you. Erm, she's very excited to meet you. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I hope ten minutes will be enough. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
It's just we have quite a schedule today. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
-She's late. -Is she? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
Erm, Theresa, I've got someone outside. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
-Been waiting a while. -Oh, right. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Do you mind? I'll think about what you said. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Ah. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
I'm so sorry, Boris. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
The Home Secretary's not coming. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
I don't understand. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
My understanding is that although | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Ben and Boris were prepared to go and prepared to talk, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
that in fact the Team May decided that they didn't want to meet up. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:52 | |
-It's a set-up. -Mm? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Make you look like you came begging to May. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Bring the car out the back. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Do not park up. | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
Be ready to go pronto, OK? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
There's probably half the press waiting for you out the front. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
-What? -Come on. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
I don't believe it. Are you serious? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-Yeah. -Crikey. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
There must have been a miscommunication | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
over timings, perhaps, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
but that's perhaps something you need to ask the, er... | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
..team that was supporting Theresa at the time. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I haven't got much to say, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
other than I think there was a misunderstanding | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
between the two sides. It might have been at principal level, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
it might have been at aide level, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
but there was plainly a misunderstanding | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
about whether there was a deal to be done and/or a meeting to be had, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
and I don't think I've anything more to say about it than that. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Wednesday was an incredibly important day. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Boris likes to write his own speeches. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
And he needed to get that nailed for the Thursday launch. | 0:29:54 | 0:30:00 | |
There had been, clearly, an attempt | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
by Michael's team to ensure that his diary was busy, meeting colleagues. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:11 | |
Now, you could look at that one way and say that that's probably more | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
important, but in reality, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
the important thing was that he got his speech right. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
OK, so these are the priority members here. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Just give him a couple of hours to write the bloody speech. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
We'd love to, but he's got to see all of these. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
And he's running out of time. Just get someone else to write the speech. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
That's not Boris! | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
He'll have an hour later. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
An hour? It's the effing launch tomorrow | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and with no face time, he'll never be ready. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
You're just overwhelming him. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
You don't understand, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Boris has had hours of face time over the last couple of years. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Curry nights, drinks parties, most of them are in the bag. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
I think you'll find they're not. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Look, we've done this before. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
We know how to win. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
Why are you not on the same page? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
Boris is a rock star. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
We've won two mayoral elections and he was the winning face of Brexit. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
This is what I keep telling you. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
We are not dealing with the public, or even the membership here, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
but 331 Tory MPs, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
insincere, duplicitous bastards. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
In Boris's terms, Janus-faced. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
And when he sees them, he needs to focus on what matters to them, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
and get them on-side and ready to go public with their support. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Now, whoever wants to see him this afternoon, get them booked in. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Don't! | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
He doesn't need to see anyone. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
I just didn't really trust any of them. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
You know, we had all been working together for 18 months, let's say. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
They tried to undermine, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
and take roles and power away from Boris's core team. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
They suggested that they take all of the information that had been built | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
up away from Boris and his team, and they, effectively, ran it. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
-Lock stock. -We had Amber Rudd. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Do you know how long it took us to warm that woman up? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
He lost her in 15 minutes. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Amber is still on-side. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
I do not give a shit what your spreadsheets say. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Thank you. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
I think the special advisers, you know, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
it's a very close relationship. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
You know, they give their all to serving their bosses. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
And they really, really care. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
So, yes, if they feel that something is going wrong, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
and it's going to have a negative affect on, you know, their team, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
absolutely, they will fight tooth and nail | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
to make sure that doesn't happen. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
The Conservative Energy Minister, Andrea Leadsom. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
The truth is, there are five presidents of the EU. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Now, can anyone name them? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
And did anyone vote for them? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
No, you didn't vote for them, because you're not allowed to vote for them. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
And you can't kick them out either. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Well, Andrea was a very important figure in this. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
She had some support, certainly from the Brexiteers. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
She'd had a great referendum campaign, and performed well. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
And there was a potential | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
that Andrea could be an outside runner for the leadership. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
So, I was very keen that Andrea came on board with team Boris. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
Ah, Andrea. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Boris. Michael. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Coffee? -Yes, please. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Great. Better make a pot. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Now, Andrea, didn't we just show them at Wembley? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
-Yes, we did. -I loved that line of yours, what was it again? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
Can you name the six EU presidents? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-Five. -Five, yes. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes, of course. Let me try. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Tusk, Juncker... | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
Er... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
Draghi, Schultz... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
Dijsselbloem! | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
Now, Andrea. You must know how much we'd love to have you on board. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
I do, because you told me a few months ago. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
You mentioned the Treasury. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
I hope you'll honour on that. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Ah. Erm, Michael's agreed to Chancellor. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Then Deputy PM. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Charged with Brexit negotiations. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Andrea had been trying to get assurances all week | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
that she was part of the deal. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
That she was going to be at the top table. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
She was going to be one of the key players in a new government, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
under Boris Johnson. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
And she was given, erm, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
a lot of, "Yeah, no problem, just, you know, we'll come back to you." | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
And I think by the Wednesday, the, sort of, "Don't call us, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
"we'll call you," routine had pissed her off, frankly. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
All week, you've been promising me something at the top table. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Simple question - what? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
She had a much bigger group of supporters behind her | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
than Michael Gove ever did. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
And it was much more important, in my opinion, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
to secure the support of Andrea Leadsom | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
than any other of the Cabinet ministers | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
who were mooted as potentially supporting him. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Let us assure you. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
You will be a key player in any Boris government. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Definitely one of the top three. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Well, I have history with Michael Gove. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
And having worked very closely with Michael Gove over many years, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
I am rather more aware of his flaws. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
So, I always cautioned Andrea... | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
about what she might be told by Michael, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
what she might be offered by Michael and just to...think twice. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
And I want the offer in writing. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
A letter...and a tweet. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
-A public commitment. -Of course. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
-By 8pm tonight. -Ah, coffee. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Actually, no, I don't think I will. I've got another meeting. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
Oh, well... | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Thank you. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Lovely to have you on board. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Right. That was all right. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
They shouldn't have offered a Cabinet position, though. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
-Well, yeah. I absolutely had to offer her one of the top three. -Why? | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
It's very difficult for Boris to be able to promise a specific | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
role, but I was pleased that Andrea was going to come on board. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
This would have really helped the campaign, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
and maybe tipped us over the number that we needed. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
That magic 111 MPs. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
There are lots of things I could tell you about Theresa, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
most of which, I'm sure you'd already know. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Basically, I and lots of my colleagues who were involved | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
in the early days of these campaigns are salesmen. That's what we are. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
There are lots of things I could tell you about Theresa. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
And the only thing a salesman needs...is a product. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
She has a mantle for a safe pair of hands, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
and for competence. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
She reaches a conclusion, it doesn't matter what it is. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
She makes a decision and that's it. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
But the one thing I can promise you, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
is that Theresa will not be holding an early election, when she wins. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
-Well... -I need a word. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
-Yes. -In private, if you wouldn't mind. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
-Can you give me that fracking report? -Of course. -Thanks. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Now, to what do I owe the pleasure? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Some of the others and I have some...concerns. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Growing concerns. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
About? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Team Boris. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
Things aren't going right. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Time and time again, things are left half done, or not done at all. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
And there's just so much tension between everyone. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Michael and Boris, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
it's not a team. It's not a team that I can see winning. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
And? | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
Well, if this thing between you, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Michael and Boris doesn't come off... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I'll support you. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
We had arranged a reception, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
which was kindly being hosted at the offices of M&C Saatchi. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
This was an opportunity for one or two of the candidates to come | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and chat to potential supporters. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
He was always going to be late. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
That's it, I know. Let's just hope he turns up soon. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Don't look now, I think our guest is here. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-I'm not going to turn around. -Of course, he's talking to her. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Erm... Yeah. I'll go and let him know that you're here. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
Let's hope he's got the letter. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Well, in the meantime, shall I just go and test the water for you? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
-Good idea, but keep it low key. -I am always low-key. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
Sorry. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Lots of Andrea's supporters were becoming very concerned | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
that a joint ticket between Boris and Andrea wouldn't take place. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
He tapped this pocket and said, "It's all secure. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
"I have a letter here, with me, which confirms it." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
So, I said, "Well, fine, can I tell people that the deal has been done?" | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
And he said, "You can, you can even tweet about it if you want." | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Sorry, excuse me. Sorry. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Sorry, can I...? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
The balloon's gone up. The balloon's gone up. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
What are you on about? Have you found Boris? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
No, that's the point. Boris has gone. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Never, he can't have, he hasn't even said hello to me yet. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
He must be here somewhere. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
He's not. I've just heard he's at the Hurlingham party. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
He left here over an hour ago. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
And he didn't give me the letter? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:23 | |
The plan was always to give Andrea the letter. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
We didn't give her it at the Saatchi party, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
I'm not sure we actually saw Andrea face-to-face at that party. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
Right, enough. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Who do they think they are? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Hi, Tim, can you get over to mine, now? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Had a call from Andrea. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
She told me at that stage that because various undertakings | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
had just not happened, she'd put her own nomination in, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
been proposed and seconded, so I said, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
"Right, I'd probably better come around." | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
I went around to her flat in Westminster. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
We all had a rather large glasses of red wine, at the ready, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
and sank down and just talked through the huge ramifications | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
of what had actually happened. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
Just the fact that we've been in the pub for about four hours. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
I'm absolutely convinced that had Boris known there was a problem, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
that he would've been able | 0:40:21 | 0:40:22 | |
to do something about it, if he was in a position to. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
But he wasn't made aware that there was a problem. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
She'd had a lot of people trying to get hold of her on her phone, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
not surprisingly. Particularly Michael Gove. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
So, eventually, she returned a call from Michael Gove. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
And I was listening in on that call, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
it was a very different tone from Michael Gove. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
You will ruin your career, Andrea. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
You can't do this alone. Listen to me. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Andr... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Fuck! | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
And, clearly, he had not expected her to put her nomination in. | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
Clearly, he had been trying to string things out. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
And what became clear, in the duration of that conversation, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
was things had gone awry between him and Boris. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Right. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Andrea's going to stand herself. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
It's over. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
Let's just go over the arguments. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
OK? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:44 | |
OK. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
-Boris. -He is entirely unsuited, you know this. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
We've all known this for a long time. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Everyone in the party knows it. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
OK, Theresa? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
She was a Remainer, Michael. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
It won't wash. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
You're the only one who believes in the manifesto of Brexit. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
Because you wrote it. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
What are you thinking, Michael? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
At that stage, he felt that, you know, he couldn't back Boris, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
he felt that actually, if I want this done properly, in a way, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
I'm going to have to do it myself. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
He'd known Boris for 30 years, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
and they knew each other in Oxford in the '80s. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
And it was only in the final two days that he realised he wasn't | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
suited to be Prime Minister. I mean, I find that difficult to believe. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
It has to be us. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
Do you understand? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
-Right. Let them know. -All right. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
I'm going to call the rest of the team now. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
I suggest we start firstly with just some basics we need. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
We need social media onside. We need a team set up. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Hi, sorry. Yeah, we're with him now. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
We're going to go ahead. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
I know. I know. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
He says it won't play well. GOVE SCOFFS | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
No shit(!) | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Well, we're willing to do it. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
'Boris, have you actually been trying to sort something out...?' | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
Always working hard. Take care, night, night. See you. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
'I think David Cameron's doing a brilliant job. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
'I think there are lots of other folk, including in the Cabinet, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
'who could easily be Prime Minister. I'm not one of them. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
'I could not be Prime Minister. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:42 | |
'I'm not equipped to be Prime Minister. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
'I don't want to be Prime Minister.' | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
'So you'd rather be Prime Minister yourself?' | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
'No, the one thing I absolutely don't want to do | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
'is to be Prime Minister.' | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
Well, I woke up, I think, quite early on that Thursday morning. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
Actually, quite relieved that I'd made a decision, finally, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
about who I was going to back for the leadership, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
you know, expecting to... I had an engagement in the morning. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
A ministerial engagement to go back to Westminster | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
and speak at Boris Johnson's launch, and I understood that Amber Rudd was | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
also going to be speaking alongside me. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
We were both going to be introducing Boris. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
'By midday, we'll know who thinks they should be Prime Minister. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
'And today, the big beasts come out of their caves. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
'Boris Johnson, front man for the Vote Leave campaign, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
'will declare his intentions to stand.' | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
I took a tube across to Islington, and I remember... | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
I think, the train went overground briefly. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
And I got a text from Ben Gascoigne, one of Boris's senior aides. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
And I won't repeat it, but it was just one... | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Two words, it had Gove and it had another and it was an expletive. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
Under my leadership, the Conservative Party | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
will be able to come back together and govern... | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
I got a call from Nick Boles, to say, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
"Look, there's been a change of plan." | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
At which point there's a pause, and a, kind of, "What do you mean?" | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
I get a phone call from Jake Berry. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
And said, "Get over to the campaign offices." | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
I said, "What's wrong?" He said, "You're not going to believe it." | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
Boris negotiating Europe. I seem to remember last time he did a deal | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
with the Germans, he came back with three nearly new water cannons. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
Right at the very end of the speech, suddenly I could see journalists | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
looking at their phones, one or two beginning to run out. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
There was plainly something... | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
Something was going on. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
So, I remember walking into work, Ben Wallace phoning me, and saying, | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
"Michael Gove has done the dirty." | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
Thinking this was some sort of joke. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
He told me, I thought he was joking. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
I said, "No way. Michael is not running himself. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
"It's a ludicrous assertion." | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
And he said, "No, I'm being deadly serious. Get over here." | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
Wow. I mean, I'm still picking my jaw up off the ground. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
Everyone here is utterly stunned. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
And, you know, this is Michael Gove plunging the dagger into the back, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
front, side, head of Boris Johnson. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
Outside Boris Johnson's north London home, the calm before the storm. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
I got off the tube and headed by cab to Boris's house. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:49 | |
You know, it's fair to say, he was... | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
stunned. Just shell-shocked. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
A man of 25 years standing as a friend, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
had just knifed him very publicly. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Expectations of a Johnson-May battle, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
except his own campaign chief had just betrayed him. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
"Et tu, brute?" as a classic scholar might say. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
You're a disgrace, Johnson! | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
It takes a very special sort of person | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
to knife one of your best friends for 25 years in the back. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
In fact, I can't think of anybody | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
who would have done something like that. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
When I got there, Lynton was there, and his team, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
and a lot of shocked people. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
And we decided pretty quickly that the first thing we needed to do, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
given the fact that Michael had declared that he was going to run | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
himself, is we needed to shore up our own support, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
and ring the MPs that had come out and pledged for Boris. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
So, it was a morning of frenetic activity, which involved, really, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
speaking to as many people on our list of supporters as possible, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
and asking, in the light of the news, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
which by that point had broken all over television, the radio, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:10 | |
and on the internet, in light of that news, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
whether they would still support Boris | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
in his bid to become leader of the Conservative Party. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
Where's Boris? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
Doing his thing. Trying to keep morale up for the troops. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
There's a debrief in two minutes, how's it looking? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
It's near, to a count. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Not good. Lynton's going fucking mental. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Keep me away from all that, then. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
There are a lot of people who I would have liked to have thought | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
would have continued to support Boris. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
I'm not going to name names. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
They know who they are. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
That, you know, that's politics. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
I sort of thought, "Well, what am I going to do?" Really. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
I'd been supporting Boris, and so I thought about it. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
I had one of my special advisers in the car was talking to them. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
I thought, "Actually, I'm going to back Michael." | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
I followed him into the Education Department. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
You know, he is somebody who is a great social reformer. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
And, although we are on different sides of the referendum campaign... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
So, I texted Michael and said, you know, "Count me in." | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
Nicky's defection didn't come as a great surprise. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
She came with Michael, if you like, so that wasn't a huge surprise. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
Oh. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
Be strong, sayeth my heart. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
I am a soldier, I have seen worse sights than this. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
I need that number for someone else. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
He was clearly quite shocked, probably even shaken by the news. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:43 | |
I would think he probably didn't really understand | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
why anyone would behave in this way. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
It's not good. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:50 | |
He's really fucked us. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
We've got about 50, 55 left, as it stands. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
It's enough to probably get you through the first round. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
And we'll win with the membership, you know that. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
That could be a lot worse, then. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
Actually, it's down to just under 40. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
Gentlemen, I... | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
I rather think I should have a moment with Marina. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Gentlemen. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
Views were proffered as to what he should do, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
but I should stress that it was his decision and Marina's decision. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
They were left to discuss it for quite a while. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
And we came back in, and he told us what the decision was. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
And we respected that. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
Sam Lyon from Lynton's team, and a few other people, and I, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
helped him rewrite the end of his speech, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
as much as you ever rewrite the end of anything with Boris. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
He does it all himself. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:51 | |
Has Michael Gove betrayed you? | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
Has Michael Gove, your friend, let you down? | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
-He says he doesn't trust you. -Come on, let's have it. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Come on. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:01 | |
There are a lot of excited people. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:08 | |
There was a lot of chitter chatter, obviously, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
because Michael had done the dirty on him. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
Still quite a lot of anger in the room, but the room was full. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
And then when Boris appeared, he seemed rather, sort of, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
struck by a sense of confusion. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
He wasn't, perhaps, as, sort of, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
boisterous or energetic as he often is. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
And it was clear that something was amiss. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
Somebody from my office came in and said, "Boris is now on television." | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
We put the television on. We watched what appeared to be the speech | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
that was going to launch his leadership campaign. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
Last week, the people of this country voted to take a new path, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:54 | |
and a new direction for Britain. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
And others may have been listening with bated breath to what he was | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
saying. I was just acutely conscious of not having a nomination, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
and so we tried to contact Boris to make sure that his office was aware | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
that this hadn't happened. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
I wasn't sure how it was going to go. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
I know that Graham Brady had been phoning my office, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
telling my intern that...Boris hadn't put his nomination papers in. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
So, I was beginning to fear the worst. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
This is our chance to build a Britain not just with a dynamic... | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
I realised, about halfway through his speech, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
what was going to happen. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
Because I saw a text message from the chairman of the 1922, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:38 | |
to Ben Wallace, who was Boris's campaign manager. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Saying, "Where are Boris's nomination papers? | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
"You're about to run out of time." | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
..and make this our moment to stand tall in the world. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:52 | |
It was the most incredible speech to give, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
given what had just happened to him an hour or so, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
a couple of hours beforehand. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
It took some incredible character to get that speech out | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
without the emotion that could have come to the front. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
Well, I must tell you, my friends, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
you who have waited faithfully for the punch line of this speech... | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
..that having consulted colleagues and, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
and in view of the circumstances in Parliament, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
I have concluded that person cannot be me. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
My role will be to give every possible support to the next | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
Conservative administration.... | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
When he delivered that line, "And that person will not be me," | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
you could almost feel the whole air in the room being sucked out. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
..everybody around the country | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
who supports our vision of a better Britain. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
Thank you all very much. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
Everybody who saw Boris's speech will tell you how shocked many | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
people were in that room. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
It was incredible drama. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
You know, looking back, it was probably one of the political | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
moments of the last decade. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
'For Mr Johnson's supporters, tears and disbelief.' | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
'You look absolutely devastated.' | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
Yeah, well, erm... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:29 | |
I've worked with him for ten years in London. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
I know he's quality. I stand by everything I said about him. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Obviously, the circumstances over the last couple of days have been | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
very, very turbulent, caught a lot of us by surprise. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
I am shocked. It looks like a, sort of, student political game, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
when the country needs direction, needs clarity, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
needs a sense of maturity. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
I am shocked and surprised that people should behave in this way. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
'What do you want to say to Michael Gove?' | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
We ushered him through the kitchens, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
and into a side room at the hotel, and then into the car. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
But the press had seen where we were. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
And so we were mobbed. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
We stopped at a red light outside Scotland Yard, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
where the red light seemed stuck interminably on red. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:15 | |
And we whisked away. I got dropped off | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
and he headed off with Marina to his house in Oxfordshire. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
It was a fairly surreal feeling, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
walking back to campaign headquarters, thinking, "That's it." | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
I think I was as gobsmacked as anybody. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
When he actually finally went, finally, | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
he suddenly turned around and said, "Well, actually, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
"I'm not going to run." | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
That's been the very focus of all of us since March. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
And suddenly, there it was, blood all over the floor, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
and he'd gone. So, yes. I was pretty surprised. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
We literally went back to Greycoat Place, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
packed up computers and boxes, and headed back to the Commons. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
That was it. As you probably wouldn't imagine, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
as we were walking out, team May was walking into the building. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
You couldn't really make that up either but, you know, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
that's politics. These things are brutal and you move on. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
'Today's completely tumultuous events helped Theresa May, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
'the Home Secretary, very significantly. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
'Her goal today, long thought about, was to appear calm, sober, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
'to convey authority. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:25 | |
'Frankly, she did that even before she'd opened her mouth.' | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
MUSIC: Come And Get Your Love By Redbone | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
# Hey, hey What's the matter with your head? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:44 | |
# Yeah | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
# Hey, hey | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
# What's the matter with your mind and your sign? # | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Boris had a long-standing commitment to support a number of colleagues in | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
the West Country. And again, it shows you the measure of the man, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
that on the day that he'd been knifed, he carried on, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
business as usual. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Good morning. Good afternoon, rather. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
We had a drink, and tried to mull it over, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
and tried to make some sense of it. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 | |
And we agreed that, you know, in light of the fact that he'd been, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
sort of, the leading figure in the Leave campaign, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
it would look pretty odd for him not to support Andrea. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
I guess, at that point, that, you know, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
he probably would have supported anyone other than Michael Gove. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
'Boris Johnson who's, of course, out of the race, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
'has made public his support for Andrea Leadsom.' | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
She's positive, she's dynamic, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:39 | |
she's got the right way forward for the country. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
I hope she does very well. Thanks, everybody. See you. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
The 1922 Committee, the organising committee for the backbenchers, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
lays on a hustings. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
What we did was make sure the hustings | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
were run again in as fair a way as we thought possible, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
A maximum of five minutes to speak, | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
followed by five minutes of questions. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
A group of MPs fired hostile questions at her | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
to prepare her for the onslaught. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
Andrea, You're the least experienced in terms of Cabinet, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
and in parliamentary terms, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
don't you think you're going to be a little out of your depth here? | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
Here's the question, how are you going to answer? | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
Then someone'll say, "Don't answer it like that cos it looks like | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
"you don't know what you're talking about. Answer like this." | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
I mean, somebody who says, "OK, I've been told to leave, | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
"so I'll leave with no enthusiasm," is very different from someone | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
who absolutely sees the sunlit uplands of leaving the EU. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
Sunlit uplands, eh? | 0:58:36 | 0:58:38 | |
So, she went into that final hustings and she pulled it off. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
She delivered a pretty good speech, | 0:58:44 | 0:58:46 | |
took some good questions and people thought it was great. | 0:58:46 | 0:58:49 | |
Hey, I know your game. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
-You didn't vote for us last time. -Yes, I did. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:55 | |
You bloody didn't. Do you know how I know? | 0:58:55 | 0:58:58 | |
The numbers didn't add up, that's why. | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
It's very difficult to grind the lists for the numbers. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:04 | |
And to know for certain when somebody says they're with you, | 0:59:04 | 0:59:07 | |
-are they really with you. -Maybe I was being harsh on myself. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:11 | |
I counted them again, and again. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:13 | |
Like I used to in my pop factory. | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 | |
And I kept coming up one short. Didn't I? | 0:59:16 | 0:59:20 | |
You will have my vote next time, OK? | 0:59:20 | 0:59:23 | |
Yes. I bloody well. | 0:59:23 | 0:59:25 | |
And just so I know, you'll take a fucking photo of your ballot paper, | 0:59:27 | 0:59:31 | |
and send it to me. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:33 | |
If you don't, I'll fire you, then I'll fucking castrate you. | 0:59:33 | 0:59:37 | |
All right? | 0:59:37 | 0:59:39 | |
Meantime, we're going to go in, | 0:59:39 | 0:59:41 | |
and laugh at Theresa's joke like it's funny, OK? | 0:59:41 | 0:59:45 | |
'Could you talk through your memories | 0:59:47 | 0:59:49 | |
'of the hustings in general?' | 0:59:49 | 0:59:51 | |
Not really, because I couldn't stand going. | 0:59:51 | 0:59:53 | |
I, and several of us, sat out on the terrace. | 0:59:55 | 0:59:58 | |
We could hear all the banging of desks and the harrumphing, | 0:59:58 | 1:00:01 | |
and the shouts, and the hurrahs, and the whatevers, | 1:00:01 | 1:00:03 | |
and the deathly silences as well. | 1:00:03 | 1:00:05 | |
SCATTERED APPLAUSE | 1:00:05 | 1:00:08 | |
The real story of the last husting, was the story of Michael Gove. | 1:00:09 | 1:00:12 | |
It was the complete collapse, really, of his performance. | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
Which of you would like to hear a real controversial text message? | 1:00:16 | 1:00:21 | |
Michael Gove has just said | 1:00:21 | 1:00:22 | |
that people should not be voting tactically. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:25 | |
But I have here a text message from his campaign manager | 1:00:25 | 1:00:28 | |
which would suggest otherwise. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:29 | |
It was basically an e-mail that started off, "You are my friend..." | 1:00:31 | 1:00:36 | |
It was asking Theresa's voters to vote for him, | 1:00:36 | 1:00:40 | |
just to stop Andrea Leadsom getting into the final. | 1:00:40 | 1:00:43 | |
And people don't like that kind of stuff. | 1:00:43 | 1:00:45 | |
It really rankled with people. | 1:00:45 | 1:00:47 | |
It was one of the Yorkshire MPs who delivered the fatal blow, | 1:00:47 | 1:00:53 | |
basically saying, "Michael, I've always respected you, | 1:00:53 | 1:00:55 | |
"but what has happened in the last few days, with the knifing of Boris, | 1:00:55 | 1:01:01 | |
"and the e-mail which came out as well, | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
"you are not fit to be the leader of the Conservative Party." | 1:01:04 | 1:01:08 | |
It was a fatal and cutting blow. | 1:01:08 | 1:01:12 | |
There was a real sharp intake of breath in the hall | 1:01:13 | 1:01:16 | |
when the question was asked. | 1:01:16 | 1:01:18 | |
It was as close to a car crash at a hustings as I've seen at any time. | 1:01:18 | 1:01:24 | |
Michael Gove, 46 votes. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:27 | |
Andrea Leadsom, 84 votes. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:30 | |
Theresa May, 199 votes. | 1:01:30 | 1:01:33 | |
Therefore, Michael Gove, having the lowest number of votes, | 1:01:33 | 1:01:37 | |
has been eliminated from the ballot. | 1:01:37 | 1:01:39 | |
'Here's Michael Gove.' | 1:01:39 | 1:01:41 | |
'Why have you lost, Mr Gove? Was it the text?' | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
'Whoever the next Prime Minister of this country will be, | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
'it will be a female Prime Minister. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:49 | |
'And I know, whichever one of the two wins, | 1:01:49 | 1:01:51 | |
'they will lead this country well.' | 1:01:51 | 1:01:54 | |
And our candidate, now, was in that final round. | 1:01:54 | 1:01:59 | |
Tim, what's the news? | 1:02:03 | 1:02:06 | |
I spoke to Andrea, went through the result. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:08 | |
Oh, fantastic, wow. | 1:02:08 | 1:02:11 | |
Andrea, it so happened, | 1:02:25 | 1:02:27 | |
had to go back to her constituency that night, | 1:02:27 | 1:02:29 | |
because Boris Johnson was coming up to Northamptonshire | 1:02:29 | 1:02:33 | |
to do a fundraising rally. | 1:02:33 | 1:02:35 | |
Congratulations to both the candidates | 1:02:35 | 1:02:38 | |
who got through to the final. | 1:02:38 | 1:02:40 | |
Particularly, by Andrea Leadsom, thank you very much. | 1:02:40 | 1:02:44 | |
Good of you to come and support me. | 1:02:48 | 1:02:50 | |
Think nothing of it. I know it's close to your heart. | 1:02:50 | 1:02:53 | |
It should have been you going to the membership, not me. | 1:02:53 | 1:02:56 | |
Ha! We know who put paid to that. | 1:02:56 | 1:02:59 | |
Andrea, this is great news. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
We are about to elect a female Prime Minister | 1:03:01 | 1:03:03 | |
for the second time in history. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:05 | |
Frankly, you've got all the right, positive, | 1:03:05 | 1:03:08 | |
confident leadership qualities this country needs. | 1:03:08 | 1:03:12 | |
At least, that's what I just told the press mob outside. | 1:03:12 | 1:03:15 | |
Come on, Andrea. Let's go and wow them. | 1:03:17 | 1:03:19 | |
We're going to need the votes. | 1:03:19 | 1:03:21 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 1:03:22 | 1:03:25 | |
It was a huge success, and wherever Boris goes, | 1:03:25 | 1:03:28 | |
it's like taking a rock star into an event. | 1:03:28 | 1:03:32 | |
It went down fantastically well. He spoke great on behalf of Andrea. | 1:03:32 | 1:03:37 | |
-Can I have a minute? -Of course. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:41 | |
Alone. | 1:03:41 | 1:03:42 | |
Gentlemen, do you mind? | 1:03:43 | 1:03:44 | |
Thank you. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:51 | |
And there's more. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:14 | |
And it's a little worrying, | 1:04:18 | 1:04:20 | |
because we know that Leave was incredibly well motivated. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:23 | |
They've just scored an extraordinary political victory. | 1:04:23 | 1:04:26 | |
They've got their tails up, there is this, I think, total myth, | 1:04:26 | 1:04:30 | |
but a belief amongst certain parties that it has to be a Leaver, | 1:04:30 | 1:04:33 | |
to run the party. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:34 | |
One of the stories that came back to us is that they had been two | 1:04:46 | 1:04:49 | |
researchers working around the clock on trawling through every word she'd | 1:04:49 | 1:04:54 | |
ever said, written, going back years on social media and other things. | 1:04:54 | 1:04:59 | |
I have no idea if that was going on or not. | 1:04:59 | 1:05:01 | |
But all I can tell you is it's a normal part of politics to make sure | 1:05:01 | 1:05:05 | |
that you know everything about your opposition. | 1:05:05 | 1:05:08 | |
That's just... That's politics. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:10 | |
Did you want to have children? | 1:05:14 | 1:05:17 | |
Yes. | 1:05:17 | 1:05:19 | |
Has it affected your outlook as a politician? | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
I don't think so. | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
Has it affected your outlook as a person? | 1:05:24 | 1:05:27 | |
Of course we were both affected by it. | 1:05:29 | 1:05:31 | |
When you see friends with, now, grown-up children. | 1:05:31 | 1:05:35 | |
But you accept the hand that life deals you. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:38 | |
Well, it's actually a bit of a business as usual day | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
in the constituency. I've got a surgery this afternoon, | 1:05:42 | 1:05:45 | |
which is quite packed. And I've got a few meetings this morning. | 1:05:45 | 1:05:48 | |
So, I'd been discussing, for several weeks, | 1:05:48 | 1:05:50 | |
doing an interview with Andrea Leadsom, | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
and this seemed the natural week | 1:05:52 | 1:05:54 | |
to actually go ahead and do the interview. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:57 | |
Having told her to go home and just get her head down | 1:05:57 | 1:05:59 | |
and not do any interviews, | 1:05:59 | 1:06:01 | |
somebody on the campaign had arranged | 1:06:01 | 1:06:04 | |
for her to do two newspaper interviews. | 1:06:04 | 1:06:06 | |
How very nice to meet you. | 1:06:06 | 1:06:07 | |
-You too. -Thank you for coming all this way. | 1:06:07 | 1:06:10 | |
It was done in a cafe somewhere. | 1:06:10 | 1:06:12 | |
You know, there was nobody with her. | 1:06:12 | 1:06:14 | |
There was no press officer there. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:16 | |
These are all no-nos, it should never happen. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:18 | |
I asked her what the main differences | 1:06:18 | 1:06:20 | |
were between her and Theresa May. | 1:06:20 | 1:06:22 | |
It was a soft opening question, really. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:25 | |
It wasn't, in any way, a kind of trap. | 1:06:25 | 1:06:27 | |
Oh, gosh. Well, I don't really know Theresa very well. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:32 | |
I'm sure she's really, really sad that she doesn't have children. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
But, genuinely, I feel being a mum | 1:06:35 | 1:06:38 | |
means you have a very real stake in the future of our country. | 1:06:38 | 1:06:42 | |
A tangible stake, you know. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:45 | |
She possibly has nieces, nephews, you know, lots of people, | 1:06:45 | 1:06:48 | |
but I have children. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:50 | |
I am so sorry, Rachel, but I've got a car waiting outside. | 1:06:51 | 1:06:55 | |
But it was just this sense of somebody who wasn't quite prepared | 1:06:55 | 1:06:58 | |
for the spotlight she was going to find herself in. | 1:06:58 | 1:07:01 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. Thanks, I think it went very well. | 1:07:01 | 1:07:05 | |
Hello, a very good evening to you. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:14 | |
Andrea Leadsom, one of the two candidates in the fight to become | 1:07:14 | 1:07:17 | |
the next Conservative leader, has suggested to the Times newspaper | 1:07:17 | 1:07:21 | |
that she would be a better Prime Minister than Theresa May | 1:07:21 | 1:07:24 | |
because she's a mother. | 1:07:24 | 1:07:26 | |
I think this thing had been set up, | 1:07:26 | 1:07:28 | |
because you had Theresa giving a lifestyle interview, | 1:07:28 | 1:07:32 | |
which is something Theresa hasn't really done. | 1:07:32 | 1:07:34 | |
That's not Theresa's style. | 1:07:34 | 1:07:36 | |
Where she had actually instigated this whole comment about her regrets | 1:07:36 | 1:07:40 | |
that she'd not had children. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:41 | |
And that was latched onto by a journalist. | 1:07:41 | 1:07:45 | |
That was a story she wanted to get. | 1:07:45 | 1:07:48 | |
And Andrea, out of naivete, walked straight into it. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:53 | |
I can absolutely promise you, there was no set up. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:55 | |
This wasn't a story I was going out to get. | 1:07:55 | 1:07:58 | |
To try and catch her out. I simply asked her what were the main | 1:07:58 | 1:08:01 | |
differences between her and Theresa May and she raised family. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:04 | |
Morning. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:07 | |
And then the reaction to it was not right either. | 1:08:07 | 1:08:09 | |
I don't want to drag up all these things, but sometimes, | 1:08:09 | 1:08:12 | |
when you're in a hole, the answer is always stop digging. | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
I am disgusted at the way this has been presented. | 1:08:14 | 1:08:17 | |
Various colleagues, people she counted as friends, | 1:08:17 | 1:08:21 | |
were quoted openly, saying, "This is disgraceful. | 1:08:21 | 1:08:25 | |
"She's not fit to be the leader." | 1:08:25 | 1:08:28 | |
And some really personal, inappropriate, vicious attacks | 1:08:28 | 1:08:32 | |
on her by people who were strong supporters of Theresa May. | 1:08:32 | 1:08:37 | |
'It's clear Andrea Leadsom wasn't trying to be cruel to Theresa May, | 1:08:40 | 1:08:44 | |
'but it has shown her inexperience, and some say, her lack of judgment. | 1:08:44 | 1:08:49 | |
'So crucial if you want to be Prime Minister.' | 1:08:49 | 1:08:51 | |
I think she saw it for the political difficulty it was for Andrea Leadsom, | 1:08:54 | 1:08:58 | |
rather than anything else. | 1:08:58 | 1:09:00 | |
And, you know, plainly, it wasn't a good time for Andrea. | 1:09:00 | 1:09:03 | |
And I think she had a very tough two or three days. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:06 | |
OK. | 1:09:07 | 1:09:09 | |
Yes, yes. | 1:09:10 | 1:09:12 | |
There were a number of conversations with a number of colleagues. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:16 | |
Including Boris. | 1:09:17 | 1:09:19 | |
I thought that bubbles evening we did the other day went really well. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:22 | |
I mean, I think the membership would just love to see two committed | 1:09:23 | 1:09:26 | |
-Brexiteers... -'Absolutely, Andrea.' | 1:09:26 | 1:09:29 | |
Absolutely. The only thing is, it can't be for a few weeks. | 1:09:29 | 1:09:34 | |
Marina's given me the three-line whip. | 1:09:34 | 1:09:36 | |
It's been a long time since we had a break. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:39 | |
Right. OK. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
No, no, that's fine. I quite understand. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:49 | |
Yes. Yes. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:50 | |
You won't even notice I'm not there. | 1:09:50 | 1:09:52 | |
All right. | 1:09:52 | 1:09:53 | |
I'm with you in spirit, yes? | 1:09:53 | 1:09:56 | |
All right. Bye, then. Bye. | 1:09:56 | 1:09:58 | |
And there's just a huge buzz, you know. | 1:10:14 | 1:10:16 | |
There's all sorts of stuff going on, left, right and centre. | 1:10:16 | 1:10:18 | |
Loads of work. Lots of planning going on. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:20 | |
And the TV's on in the background. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:22 | |
Fine, liaise with Fi. | 1:10:30 | 1:10:31 | |
Have we sorted out the bloody battle bus yet? | 1:10:31 | 1:10:34 | |
-We're just waiting for a price... -Shh! Turn it up. | 1:10:34 | 1:10:37 | |
'There is no greater privilege than to lead the Conservative Party | 1:10:37 | 1:10:42 | |
'in government. And I would have been deeply honoured to do it.' | 1:10:42 | 1:10:47 | |
I have, however, concluded that the interests of our country | 1:10:47 | 1:10:52 | |
are best served by the immediate appointment of a strong | 1:10:52 | 1:10:56 | |
and well supported Prime Minister. | 1:10:56 | 1:10:59 | |
I am therefore withdrawing from the leadership election, | 1:10:59 | 1:11:03 | |
and I wish Theresa May the very greatest success. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:07 | |
'Despite making it to the final short list of two last week...' | 1:11:07 | 1:11:10 | |
Yes, I was smiling. Of course I was smiling. | 1:11:10 | 1:11:13 | |
I'd had a pretty hard three or four weeks, and it was... | 1:11:13 | 1:11:17 | |
Yeah, it was a pretty special moment. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:19 | |
'Following the decision of Mrs Andrea Leadsom to withdraw from the | 1:11:19 | 1:11:23 | |
'Conservative leadership contest, | 1:11:23 | 1:11:25 | |
'the Right Honourable Mrs Theresa May is the only remaining candidate.' | 1:11:25 | 1:11:30 | |
CHEERING | 1:11:30 | 1:11:32 | |
Brexit means Brexit. | 1:11:39 | 1:11:41 | |
And we're going to make a success of it. | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
-ALL: -Here, here. | 1:11:44 | 1:11:46 | |
'Listen to this quote. | 1:11:55 | 1:11:56 | |
'The Prime Minister is running scared of a general election. | 1:11:56 | 1:12:00 | |
'Now, that was Theresa May said about Gordon Brown when he failed | 1:12:00 | 1:12:03 | |
'to call a general election after taking over from Tony Blair. | 1:12:03 | 1:12:07 | |
'Fast forward several years, | 1:12:07 | 1:12:09 | |
'and Theresa May herself has said | 1:12:09 | 1:12:10 | |
she will not be calling a general election.' | 1:12:10 | 1:12:13 | |
# An awful collection of enemies and friends | 1:12:13 | 1:12:19 | |
# Congratulations to you... # | 1:12:19 | 1:12:21 | |
Straight through, please, Boris. | 1:12:21 | 1:12:24 | |
# I'm tired of the old shit Let the new shit begin. # | 1:12:26 | 1:12:31 | |
KNOCKING AT DOOR Come in. | 1:12:31 | 1:12:34 | |
Ah, Boris. | 1:12:36 | 1:12:38 | |
-Sit down. -Thank you, Prime Minister. | 1:12:38 | 1:12:41 | |
You know it could have been you sitting behind this desk, | 1:12:47 | 1:12:50 | |
-and me in that chair. -Yes, well... | 1:12:50 | 1:12:53 | |
Yes, well, it isn't. | 1:12:53 | 1:12:55 | |
-No. -I'd like to make you Foreign Secretary. | 1:12:55 | 1:13:00 | |
You seem surprised. | 1:13:02 | 1:13:04 | |
Yes. Somewhat. | 1:13:04 | 1:13:06 | |
-But you'll accept? -I do. | 1:13:06 | 1:13:09 | |
I'm creating a new post, | 1:13:09 | 1:13:11 | |
Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:14 | |
-Oh. -David Davis. -Ah, well... | 1:13:14 | 1:13:17 | |
Excellent choice, Prime Minister. | 1:13:17 | 1:13:19 | |
And Liam Fox will be the new Secretary for International Trade. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:23 | |
I see, Prime Minister. | 1:13:24 | 1:13:26 | |
Well, thank you for coming in, Boris. | 1:13:26 | 1:13:29 | |
MUSIC: Come And Get Your Love by Redbone | 1:13:39 | 1:13:44 | |
# Hell, hell | 1:13:53 | 1:13:56 | |
# What's the matter with you? | 1:13:56 | 1:13:58 | |
# Cos you're fun and you're mine and you look so divine | 1:13:58 | 1:14:03 | |
# Come and get your love. # | 1:14:03 | 1:14:08 | |
-OK, that's amazing. -Anything else...? | 1:14:08 | 1:14:10 | |
-No, it's all right. -Perfect. Yeah. -Good stuff. | 1:14:10 | 1:14:13 | |
-Yes. -That was funny. | 1:14:13 | 1:14:15 | |
-I'm done, OK? -Bless you. | 1:14:15 | 1:14:17 | |
-Thank you so much. -A pleasure. -Thanks for coming in. | 1:14:17 | 1:14:21 | |
-OK. -Thank you very much. -A pleasure. | 1:14:21 | 1:14:23 | |
# Hell, hell | 1:14:23 | 1:14:25 | |
# What's the matter with you feel right? # | 1:14:25 | 1:14:28 |