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EXPLOSIONS MEN SHOUT AND CHANT | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
This programme contains some violent scenes | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
In 1315, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
an army from Britain invaded Ireland, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
numbering 6,000 battle-hardened veterans. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
It was one of the most powerful foreign forces | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
ever to set foot in the country. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
But this was no English army. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Its tough mail-clad soldiers were Scotsmen - | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
gallowglasses and fighting men | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
from the Highlands and Western Isles. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Their commander was Edward Bruce, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
brother of Robert Bruce, the King of the Scots. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Schiltron, arms. MEN SHOUT | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
They had a simple objective. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
To drive out the English and make Edward Bruce King of Ireland. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
It was an ambitious plan. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
In over 100 years, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
no-one had succeeded in breaking the English stranglehold on Ireland. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
This is a story of two Celtic nations. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
A shared heritage and a forgotten war | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
that could have changed the course of history. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Soon after he arrived, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
Edward Bruce had himself proclaimed High King of Ireland. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
In a bid to forge an Irish-Scottish alliance, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
support for Edward's claim came from Donal O'Neill, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
the powerful king of Tyrone. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
The English in Ireland, known as the Anglo-Irish, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
were in disarray. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
One of their greatest lords, Richard de Burgh, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
had been crushed in battle. | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
Edward Bruce now had control of most of Ulster. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
He brought his army southwards into Leinster, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
hitting at the heart of Anglo-Irish power. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Winter 1315, 1316, the Scots are in a position where they're | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
actually on the threshold of sweeping everything | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
away in front of them. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
You can't stop the Scots, they've had no serious reverse. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
When the Bruces invaded Ireland, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
the only people - almost without exception - | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
who supported them were the native Irish, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
the reason being that if you were a member of the English colony | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
in Ireland and you joined the Bruces that made you a traitor. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
So there was very little support for them in Anglo-Ireland. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Overwhelmingly, it became a war between the English in Ireland | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and the native Irish, and they only had the backing of the native Irish. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
THUNDER RUMBLES | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
The Scots knew that overall victory in Ireland was far from certain. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Before long, they were faced with a devastating enemy | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
that couldn't be defeated in battle. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
The heavens showed anger, as if the spirits of our fallen foe were | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
imploring the unearthly powers to pour their gathered stores | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
on our unsheltered heads, threatening us with ruin. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Heavy rain had been falling in May 1315, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
the month in which the Scots arrived in Ireland. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
All summer long, the country was plagued by the worst weather | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
seen across Europe in generations. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
When the time came to gather what was left of the harvest, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
the reality was bleak. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
There would not be enough food to last the winter. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
This was the beginning of the Great European Famine, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
one of the worst natural disasters in the continent's history. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
For the early years of the 14th century, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Europe is subject to a series | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
of crop failures, and that culminates in the Great Famine of 1315-17. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:30 | |
Life was pretty difficult in general in Ireland. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
By the time Edward Bruce arrives in 1315, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
the population would probably have been substantially weakened. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
It's a poor country, people are subject to... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
I suppose, the inequities of war all the time, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
whether you're in a Gaelic or an Anglo-Irish area. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Edward Bruce comes in here to a country where it's not exactly | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
optimum conditions for the population at that time. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
In fact, it's going to become very difficult very quickly | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
from 1315 to 17. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
"Many afflictions in all parts of Ireland, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
"very many deaths, famine and many strange diseases, murders, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
"and intolerable storms as well." | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
It's very telling that a number of the Irish annal sources | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
for the period and later | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
actually blame the famine itself on the presence | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
of the Bruce army, that somehow they've caused it | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
or worsened it. Although they also criticised the English forces | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
for adding to it, so there's certainly | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
a sense in which, for the ordinary purpose, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
the two are run together. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
If you think of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - War and Famine, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
here's two of them being visited upon us at the same time. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
GIBBET CREAKS | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
In his first few months of being in Ireland, Edward Bruce clearly | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
rounds up large bodies of supply, spoil, booty | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
and ships it back to Scotland. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
And it may be that supply was a central motive | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
to going there in the first place. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
But by the time you get to 1316, 1317, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
after two failed harvests, into your third bad winter, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
livestock would be dwindling, population would be moving about | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
in search of food... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
It's really a large part of the war itself. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
"We left nothing but the harvest of a charred desert that was now | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
"the bitterness of dust and ashes. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
"And in their affliction we began to see the hand of God | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
"outstretched to punish sin. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
"Famine and sickness waited not to be invited, as the oppressed | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
"looked around for a protector, and finds he has none." | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
People in the Middle Ages understood their place, in a way. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
That's the way the system worked. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
So, if you were born into poverty, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
you could look forward to an afterlife of heaven. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
I mean, that's what was sold to them. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
That keeps you in your place. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
The world is run on these lines, there are those who work, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
those who pray and those who fight. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
And depending on which one you're born into, that's where you stay. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
So there is an acceptance of that. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
There's a kind of a fatalism about what you're born into. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
There would be an idea that, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
"This is my lot and this is what I have to put up with." | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
You are being punished, in a way, by suffering now, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
for some unidentified sins that you or somebody else | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
did a while ago. So that is the world-view. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
That is how calamitous events are understood, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
like the Bruce invasion, like the famine, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
like the Black Death that follows not that long afterwards. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
As the year 1315 drew to a close, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Edward Bruce was campaigning in the Irish midlands. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
He was many miles from his base in Ulster, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
and his main priority was to find food and shelter for his army. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
But in a scenario that was becoming more and more common, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
the local population suffered the burden of war. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
The idea is not to engage so much in actual battles, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
as to take a phalanx - a huge number of men - | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
through a territory and devastate it. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Destroy anything in it that could help the residents | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
once you've passed through. So you kind of starve them out. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
The chevauchee has been described as an early example of total warfare, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
because it attacks women and children as well as men. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
And I suspect that something like this might have been | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
in Edward's head in Ireland. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
I have looked at an example of an attack on a settlement | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
outside Slane in County Meath. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
There is an entry saying that 80 men, women and children | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
were killed by an attack of the Bruce. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
So even from that you can just tell that it | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
must have been tremendously savage. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
No quarter seems to have been given. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
This was a village in an English-held area. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
So what you do have, even in a country | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
which was used to quite savage warfare, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
what was happening with Edward Bruce seems to have taken people | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
even then by surprise, in the ferocity of what was happening. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
It's probably the worst time to be alive in the Middle Ages... | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
..the first half of the 14th century. It's pretty much hell. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Ravaged by famine, many areas were deserted. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
Entire towns vanished at this time. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Like Ardreigh, near Athy. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
This place was once a thriving settlement, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
but was abandoned in the 14th century. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
When a cemetery was excavated there, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
over 1,000 skeletons were recovered. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Some of them date from the time of the Bruce invasion. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
During the course of excavation works here, over 1,200 people | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
were found, so a full medieval population. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
And we know this is actually an area the Bruce army | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
passes through, because they go through Athy | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
and the surrounding areas, so it was an area that would | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
have been affected without a shadow of a doubt by the wars. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
When you come to look at how things really were for people | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
hundreds of years in the past, if you're looking at human remains | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
you're looking directly into the face of somebody who was | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
alive at the time the Bruce invasion was taking place. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
The types of injuries that they sustain are | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
practically unimaginable to us now. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
The tough aspect of their lives is just quite incredible. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
The human remains like this are like a storybook | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
of people's lives at the time. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Here we have an individual that is male and aged between | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
35 and 45 years of age at death. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Evidence of interpersonal violence would be | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
evident by the presence of sharp force trauma to the skull, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
which we have here in the frontal bone. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
It comes in at a point, which has sharp edges on each side, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
which indicates it may have been a sword and it comes to a point | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
just above the eye, which narrowly misses the eye. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
So here we have the frontal bone, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
which has the orbits of the eyes here and here, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
and this is the ear. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
This male was probably facing his assailant, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
and a right-handed attack has come in, probably from a sword, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
and it's swept in like this. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
The sharp force trauma probably exposed the skull. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
This individual is incredibly lucky, because he survived this blow. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
And as well as this blade cut coming through here, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
there is the blunt force trauma at the top of the head. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
So either at the same time or two separate occasions, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
this man was hit by two different weapon types. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
A sharp force trauma, probably a sword, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
and then a blunt force trauma, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
which could be a variety of different weapons, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
but the type of things in the medieval period that can inflict | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
this type of force are things like hammers, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
that type of weaponry. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
We have some from the same cemetery where people, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
we can tell they've raised their arms | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
above their faces in an attempt to ward off blows. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
So really the human remains are the human story | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
of what's going on at this time, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
and this man is one of the people who lived through it. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Just a few miles northeast of the now vanished town of Ardreigh | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
is a huge artificial mound - the Motte of Ardscull. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
Today, the motte is covered with trees, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
but in the 14th century it had a very different appearance. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
In January 1316, the Anglo-Irish lords gathered a great army here, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
commanded by Edmund Butler - | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
the English king's representative in Ireland. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
They knew the Scottish army was nearby | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
and were determined to destroy them once and for all. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Battlefield archaeologist Tony Pollard is following the trail | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
of Edward Bruce and the Scottish army | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
as they advanced through Ireland. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
There can be no denying that this is pretty impressive. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-DAMIAN: -Absolutely, yeah. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
We've been looking for battlefields | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
all the way down to get to here, and everywhere we've been | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
we've seen mottes, but they've all been much smaller than this. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Well, what we have here, Tony, is a very important settlement site. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
So what we're looking at is this huge mound that originally | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
would have had a wooden palisade on the top. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
It would have had a small garrison inside, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
but what we see today is only a small fraction | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
really of what used to be here. There would have been | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
a major settlement that accompanied this motte. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
And when the Anglo-Normans came to Ireland, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
they constructed these mottes to try and control the landscape. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
So you consistently find them beside routeways, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
whether they're roads or rivers. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
We're beside the road here, a road that undoubtedly | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
the Bruce army would have marched down originally. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
The Bruce army is the largest army that's really ever come to the country. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
And it's the largest army that will be seen for | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
-a number of hundred years in Ireland. -Wow. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
And an army that size has to operate | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-along the major routeways. -Yeah. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
It has to move close to these centres of power consistently, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
and that's exactly what we have at Ardscull. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
So these are like castles really, but built on the cheap? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
That's exactly it, a quick fix to try | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
and control territory as quickly as they can. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
The Anglo-Irish, they seem to have a fairly big army here, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
they surely had an opportunity to smash the Scots, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
who by this time must have been in a fairly dilapidated state, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
but they kind of let it go, don't they? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Absolutely, there's no doubt that they significantly | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
outnumbered the Scots and should have won. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
The Scots say there were about 50,000 English descending on them, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
they had about 10,000 men and they defeat - using the tactics | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
that you would be familiar with at Bannockburn - the English. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
If you then look at the other side of the accounts, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
the Anglo-Irish accounts, what they're saying is | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
in fact, the Scots didn't have much to do with this battle at all, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
that they had a bit of a disagreement among themselves, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and after killing about 70-odd Scots, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
they lost five men and then had this argument | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
and leave the fields, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
that it was really unfortunate what occurred to them here. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
Whichever way you cut it, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
it doesn't really bode well for the Anglo-Irish, does it? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
Either they're defeated by the Scots through sheer force of arms, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
or they can't agree among themselves what to do | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and have a barney and then clear off. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
And I think on the balance of evidence, you have to consider | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
that the Scots more than likely | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
defeated them militarily on the battlefield. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
But the Scots are allowed to fight another day? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Yeah, allowed to fight on their terms | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
and to fight another day, and the war continues, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
and the misery continues for everybody really. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Ardscull was a missed opportunity for the Anglo-Irish. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Edmund Butler had failed to take his best chance yet | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
to annihilate Edward Bruce. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
And now Dublin lay open to assault by the victorious Scots. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
However, in the days that followed the battle, they found themselves | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
caught in the fog of war, that cloud of uncertainty | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
when an army is unsure of its own capability | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
and its enemy's intentions. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
The Scots were hungry and exhausted. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Edward Bruce knew they were in no condition to attack | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
the most important city in Ireland. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
At the end of the first campaigning season, if you like, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
contemporary opinion was that Bruce was winning. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
He had the advantage and he had an opportunity | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
then to consolidate his position and work ahead. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
The problem for him I suppose was that that first season in Ireland | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
was also the first of these famine years. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
The conditions weren't ripe for him | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
to do something very elaborate to begin with. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
I think even Edward Bruce was, you know, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
even after his first matter of months in Ireland | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
he might have begun to think that | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
maybe it wasn't going to go as easily | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
as he had thought initially. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
The Scots had no option but to begin | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
the slow and painful march north to their base in Ulster. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
Their supplies were now almost gone, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
and the men began to die of starvation. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
What was happening during the course of the Bruce invasion | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
was very extreme. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Contemporary accounts say that people were struggling | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
so much they were resorting to cannibalism in parts of Ireland. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
"It was said truly that some evil men were so distraught by famine | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
"that they dragged out of cemeteries the corpses of the buried, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
"and roasted the bodies on spits | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
"and ate every single one of them. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
"And women ate their sons for hunger." | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
It was a very bleak time, and I think the timing was | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
devastating from the Scots' point of view. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
The weakened Scottish army limped back to Ulster. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
Even there, the Scots were not secure, as Carrickfergus Castle - | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
the most important stronghold in the north - | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
still held out against them. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
Edward Bruce relied on the tried and trusted weapon | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
of siege warfare - starvation. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
The Scots don't really need big siege engines, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
they don't need to be actively attacking this all the time, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
they just sit outside in their siege camp and let nature take its course. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
So it's an incredibly brutal conflict, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
but it's not one that involves lobbing huge missiles inside. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
It's just keeping them bottled up. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
And at one point the Scots send emissaries into the castle | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
to negotiate and they're taken prisoner by the garrison. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
And rumours start to leak out that these guys | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
have actually been eaten by the garrison, so hungry are they. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
And eventually, nature does take its course, and around about | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
late July, August 1316, just over a year after the siege begins, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
the castle opens its gates and Edward Bruce takes control. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
This victory could not hide the fact that Edward Bruce was still | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
a long way from being recognised across the island | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
as the High King. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
Fedhlim O'Connor, the King of Connacht, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
now threw his lot in with Bruce | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and attacked English settlements throughout the western province. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
But he was defeated and killed in the Battle of Athenry. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Other Gaelic chiefs showed little or no interest | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
in joining the Scots. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
The thing about Ireland in the Middle Ages, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
which is not true of Scotland, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
is that Ireland was a very polar society. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
You had the native Irish and you had the English of Ireland, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
so of course it probably was a bit naive | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
to think that they could put aside these internal divisions | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
and rise above it for some kind of, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
in inverted commas, "national cause". | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
But Bruce still had the backing of a formidable Gaelic leader - | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Donal O'Neill of Tyrone. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
O'Neill's army represented the main Irish support | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
for the Scottish campaign. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
Instead of fighting the English, we'll fight ourselves. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
And so we owe to ourselves the miseries with which we are afflicted. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Degenerates. Manifestly unworthy of our ancestors. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
It was by their valour and splendid deeds that | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
the Irish race in all the ages past retained our liberty. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
We must be at harmony at home. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
We must prosecute this war with our united forces. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:11 | |
If we are to regain our liberty. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
The idea that they thought of themselves as distinctively Irish | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
does emerge, but Ireland is still a very divided country | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
for most of the Middle Ages. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
That's the tragedy, is that they didn't band together | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
and work together, that just never happened. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
You can argue that these Irish leaders SHOULD have | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
put their differences aside in this national cause. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
You're asking a person to take a gamble on losing everything | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
that he has in the world for some greater cause, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and it was too much to ask. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
Each of these Irish leaders was the head of a branch | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
of the family, he was somebody who was | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
trying to hold on to his land. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
And ultimately, it's all about land. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Edward Bruce's campaign was losing momentum. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
He desperately needed reinforcements and supplies | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
for his depleted and weakened army. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
And only one man could provide such assistance. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
In September 1316, Edward travelled to Fife to see his brother, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
the King of Scotland himself, Robert Bruce. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
The Irish are impressed. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
The government is frightened of the wedge that has been thrust | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
so quickly into the heart of English influence - | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and yet...you did not march on to the walls of Dublin? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
My hand was forced. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Famine and fatigue wore weary my few remaining men | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
while Carrickfergus still lay under siege. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
I could not afford a battle on two fronts. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
I heeded your advice, brother. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Demand nothing until you have the force to enhance your claim. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
I fear they must face the wrath of two kings | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
to convince them of their loyalty. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Replenish your stocks, reinforce your men... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
prepare yourself for war. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
It was always Edward Bruce that we see to the fore | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
in this invasion of Ireland, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
and indeed Robert's contemporary biographer, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
this man John Barbour, who wrote a very long poem | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
about Robert later on in the 14th century, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
he paints Edward as a bit of a troublemaker and that | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Robert wanted rid of him, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
but I think there are other reasons for that. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
All the contemporary evidence suggests that | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Robert and Edward were very close. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Edward was Robert's right-hand man. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
It could be that Edward was desirous of proving himself | 0:26:04 | 0:26:10 | |
as the worthy successor, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
worthy potential successor to Robert Bruce. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Edward might have thought, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
"Well, if I'm going to be the next King of Scots, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
"maybe I should show that I've got the mettle for it," | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
because he must have felt somewhat overshadowed, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
I think, by his brother Robert. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
The whole thread running through this story, I think, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
is the relationship between the two brothers, Robert and Edward. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
And it's a relationship that I don't think | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
has been given enough attention. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
I think there are assumptions made about it, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
and I think some of them are very wrong. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
One of which is that Robert wanted to get his brother | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
out of the way, because he was a possible threat. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
I think that's absolute nonsense. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Robert sent his brother to Ireland because he fully trusted him, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
and I don't think it smacks at all of a suspicious | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
or difficult relationship between Edward and Robert. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
And let's face it, the entire Bruce family | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
has almost been wiped out. All the other brothers are dead. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
It's only that pair, and I think they've got a fairly close bond. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
"King Robert arrived in Ireland in this way, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
"and when he had stayed in Carrickfergus for three days, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
"they consulted and decided that with all their men | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
"they would hold their way through all Ireland, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
"from one end to the other." | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
It is to me very interesting that one fifth of John Barbour's poem | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
is devoted to the Irish expedition, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
and that suggests that to contemporaries, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
this was a really important thing, it was a big deal. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
A much bigger deal than Scottish historians | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
have made of it ever since. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
When Robert Bruce came into Ireland the army marched down | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and they were clearly marching on Dublin. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Dublin was at the centre of everything in Ireland. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
It was the headquarters of the English government, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
and if you were going to topple English government in Ireland, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
you had to get control of Dublin. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
They came as far as Castleknock, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and they were looking at the city | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
and contemplating an assault on it, maybe the next morning. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
But the citizens of Dublin, they went inside their walls | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
and burned the suburbs after them | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
to deny the Scots cover as they tried to get to the town. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
The citizens of Dublin pull down their own walls, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
they retreat within the very bastions of the core of the city, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
the governor flees Dublin for Cork... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
it's effectively wide open. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
It's hard to see, other than the capture of Dublin, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
what would have tipped the balance in Ireland. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
I mean, it takes them over a year to take Carrickfergus, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
and it falls, and it doesn't really make much difference. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
What are they actually trying to achieve? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
The problem for Robert Bruce when he was in Ireland | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
was that he was committed to a short sharp shock here in Ireland. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
He couldn't spend a year hanging around outside Dublin | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
for them to surrender. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
So I think they took a look at the situation | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
and they realised it was either a lengthy siege, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
or we just abandon Dublin for the time being and march on. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
Leaving Dublin behind, the Scots | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
marched west to Leixlip, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
where they spent four days | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
burning and plundering. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Further south, the Franciscan monks at Castledermot | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
had no reason to welcome the approach of Robert Bruce. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Two years before, his brother had destroyed | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
their friary in Dundalk. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
Throughout the campaign, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
the Scots had seen religious orders as legitimate targets. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
Because these same religious orders stood accused of | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
committing atrocities of their own against the native Irish. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
So these places are certainly not set aside, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
they're not left alone, they are embroiled within this conflict? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
They are, neither side is offering any sanctuary | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
to these locations at all. These are fair game. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
There's no rhyme nor reason why they necessarily single out | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
a particular monastery, friary or abbey, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
but when they do, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
they visit the wrath of the Bruces upon the place. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
It just demonstrates how serious the Scots were | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-about this place and this operation. -Mmm. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
-They left no stone unturned really, did they? -No, they didn't. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
In the Remonstrance in 1317 by Donal O'Neill for example, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
there is a direct allegation at Abbeylara that monks | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
-are going around hunting Irishmen. -The monks?! | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
The monks going out hunting Irishmen, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
because he wants to say, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
"This is the chaos that Edward II has wreaked upon Ireland. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
"This is why we want Edward Bruce to come over and save us." | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
AGONISED GROAN | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
One side is accusing the other side | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
of the most terrible crimes imaginable. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
It is horrific really, what we're looking at is total war, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
I guess, absolutely nothing is sacred. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
There's all that Braveheart nonsense about the Scots always being | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
the underdog and the English aggressor, but when you step back | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
and look with an objective eye, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
the Scots are capable of mixing it up | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
in a bad way with the best of them - | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
or should I say the worst of them? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
The Bruce army was slicing its way | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
through the heart of Ireland, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
leaving a trail of smouldering ash | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
and a land stripped bare in its wake. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
It's a Scots military practice to actually deny your enemy | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
food supplies, resources and provisions. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
The only thing is, of course, that it actually robs | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
your own army of the ability to have provisions as well. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
If you can talk about public opinion | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
in the early 14th century that might have begun to | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
swing opinion slightly against the Scots. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Some people were saying, "What was so wrong with the English?" | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
There is one source that says this exact thing - | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
"Our OLD foreigners are much better than these new foreigners | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
"who've come in and doing all this damage." | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
You only have to look at the campaign. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
How aimless it almost seems, weaving round and about, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
first past Dublin, down into the south, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
across to Limerick, back across, back up. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Are they actually desperately in search of food? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
The joke that they almost starve to death, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
or eating their own horses, how do you explain it? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
They're marching to places to try to rouse the Irish population | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
to join their side, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
so the furthest south they get to is within sight of Limerick, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
and they're trying to get the O'Briens to join them. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
The problem with the O'Briens, as with the O'Connors | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
and many of the other dynasties, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
is that there are two rival branches. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
And once one side says that he's going to join with the Scots, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
the other fellow stays with the English government, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
and the kind of unity that they were expecting, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
it was alien to Ireland in the early 14th century. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Treachery stalks unashamed in Ireland among the nobility as well, I see! | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
What now, Robert? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Demand nothing until you have the strength to enforce the claim. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
We retreat - to Carrickfergus. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Hup! Hup! | 0:34:45 | 0:34:46 | |
There was more bad news for the Scots. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
An army of English reinforcements had landed at Youghal | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
and was on its way north. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
That campaign in particular is the one | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
to really question. At one point, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
King of Scots, his brother - the High King of Ireland - | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
the man who would have been guardian of the Scottish realm | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
in the event of the death of both of these men, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Thomas Randolph, so the three leading men of Scotland | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
are pretty close to being starved, killed, hunted down, wiped out, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
at a time when Robert Bruce only has a grandson | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
to follow him. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
What's going on? Why do they think it's worth it? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
The Scots' latest retreat had an air of finality to it. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
Robert was needed back in Scotland, which the English | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
were threatening to invade again. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
In May, he boarded a ship for his homeland. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
There's a sense in which Ireland stretches them too far, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and as much as it's a two-front policy, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
they can only really run one at a time effectively. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
I suspect the English after a while know that. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
They know that unless Edward Bruce commits to really taking | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
somewhere like Dublin, it's not going to tip the balance. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
There is virtually no information on how the war went for | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
over a year after Robert's departure. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
It seems that for many months, the Scots, the Irish | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
and the Anglo-Irish abstained from further fighting. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
The most likely explanation is that each side needed to recover | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
after almost three years of war and famine. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
"Excommunication is to be pronounced against | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
"all invading England or disturbing its peace." | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Donald. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
Your brother may be able to afford to defy the Pope. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
But if the judgment of heaven is called down upon my people... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
what is to become of us? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
We shall address the Pope ourselves. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Through the cardinals. We shall persuade him | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
that Ireland's cause is a just one. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
In 1317, O'Neill and other Gaelic leaders sent a letter | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
known as "The Remonstrance of the Irish Princes" | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
to Pope John XXII. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
It explained why they had supported Edward Bruce against the English. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
From that time the English crossed the borders of our kingdom | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
with evil intent, with all their strength and using all | 0:38:03 | 0:38:09 | |
the skills in their power they have tried to destroy our people utterly | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
and eradicate them completely. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
On account of the aforesaid injuries, then, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
and innumerable others which cannot easily be grasped | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
by the human understanding, we are compelled | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
to enter into a deadly war with the aforementioned. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
The Remonstrance claims that Donal O'Neill | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
had the support of a large number of the Irish bishops, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
and I think that may well be the case. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Because if you read the text of the Remonstrance, the importance | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
of it is that it was sent to the Pope, who was then in Avignon. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
And so it has to make an appeal to something | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
that might win the Pope over. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
So it reminds him that, actually, the English came to Ireland | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
because they had a licence from the then Pope to do it, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Pope Adrian IV. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
And that part of their mission in Ireland was meant to be | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
to reform the Irish Church, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
but, in fact, the Remonstrance says the opposite happened, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
they didn't reform the Irish Church, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:13 | |
they damaged the Irish Church. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
So it's trying to make an ecclesiastical appeal, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
to get the Pope to take the Irish side against the English, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
just as at the same time, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Bruce in Scotland was trying to get the Pope | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
to take the Scots' side against the English. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
HE READS ALOUD IN LATIN | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
To achieve our aims more swiftly, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
we call to our help and assistance the illustrious Edward de Brus, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
Earl of Carrick, and brother to the Lord Robert, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
the most illustrious King of all the Scots, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
and sprung from our noblest ancestors. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
In its wording, the Remonstrance is uncannily similar to the | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
Declaration of Arbroath, which the Scottish Church and nobility | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
sent to the Pope three years later. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
A number of Irish historians, as well as Scottish historians, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
detect the hand that was behind the Declaration of Arbroath | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
in the Remonstrance. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
That this was a product of Bruce's chancery, if you like. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
A propaganda document, no question, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
but it's making many similar points. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
The Irish had ruled for centuries unconquered by a foreigner, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
exactly as the Scots did in the declaration. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
The English King came to the Irish as a friend | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
but betrayed them as an enemy, the same thing in Scotland. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
The English ever since have reigned as tyrants in Ireland, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
the same as Edward I and Edward II tried to rule in Scotland. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
So there is a direct relationship between these two documents, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
I'm pretty sure of it. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
It's controversial, this, but if things are not | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
controversial in history they're not worth talking about. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
It is in truth not for glory, or riches, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
or honour that we are fighting. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
But for freedom alone. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
Which no honest man will give up... but with life itself. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
I think this is really where Bruce invents something called | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Scottish independence. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Bruce must have realised somewhere along the line | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
that as long as people had this loyalty to their clan | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
and their family, you could never build a state or a nation. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
And I think that's when he said, "We've got to give these guys | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
"something greater than themselves to which they can aspire." | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
Bruce's supporters send a letter to the Pope, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
begging him to bring pressure to bear upon Edward II | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
to recognise Bruce as legitimate King of Scots, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
to end these terrible wars. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
They tell the Pope that, "If you don't do this, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
"you will be responsible for the bloodshed that follows." | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
In the course of this letter, they make two great pronouncements. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
"If Bruce should ever submit us or our kingdom to the | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
"King of England or the English, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
"we will remove him and set up another better able | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
"to govern us as our king." And this, I have argued, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
is the first articulation of the contractual theory of monarchy... | 0:42:20 | 0:42:26 | |
in Europe. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
And then they go on to make the statement which many people | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
still like to quote. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
"For so long as 100 of us | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
"remain alive we shall never surrender, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
"it is not for glory nor riches nor honours | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
"that we're fighting, but for freedom alone, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
"which no honest person will lose but with life itself." | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Who could argue with that? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Some 450 years later, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
the Declaration of Arbroath would inspire one of | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
the most famous assertions of freedom, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
human rights and self-determination ever written - | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
the American Declaration of Independence. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
This document could have had its roots in a forgotten war, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
fought in Ireland and Scotland centuries earlier. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
And in 1317, that war had still to reach its conclusion. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
Time was running out for Edward Bruce. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Twice he and his army had a chance to capture Dublin, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
and twice they had failed. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
The Irish kings who supported him | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
outside of Ulster had been defeated in battle. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
But even in the face of these setbacks, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
Edward had reason to believe that things might improve. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
In 1318, for the first time in years, there was a good harvest. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
Finally, he was able to supply his men properly. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
And news came from Scotland that | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
further reinforcements were on the way. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
And so, in the autumn of 1318, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
Edward made the decision to bring his army south and out of Ulster. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
We know that Robert is sending reinforcements to Carrickfergus, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
and it's just a question of why Edward suddenly decides | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
to leave Carrickfergus before King Robert comes over again. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
It could be something to do with a repeat of the events of 1317, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:36 | |
when effectively Edward leads the vanguard down south | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
and Robert's main army follows him, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
and it could have been some kind of attempt to take Dublin. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
I suspect they only headed south in October 1318 | 0:44:46 | 0:44:51 | |
because they had a new idea, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
there was one final effort that they thought might do the trick. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
So the Scots still had hopes for Ireland. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
It's just possible that they might have been able to | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
pull some kind of a rabbit out of a hat at that stage. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
We're just south of the Moyry Pass, which is one | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
of the most important ways to get from the north into the south. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
We're on the hill at Faughart, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
which is just at the mouth of the pass, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
so a very important strategic location. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
It's still a very important place. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Indeed, during the Troubles, this was a hot spot. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
So for Edward to be up here makes total sense. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
But for whatever reason, the Anglo-Irish have | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
got their act together and have a big army waiting for him. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
And Edward Bruce has to decide what to do, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
and Barbour talks about him having a Council of War with | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
his Irish allies and everybody's basically saying, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
"Don't be so foolish, we're massively outnumbered, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
"we've only got 2,000 men, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:05 | |
"what are we going to do against that massive force?" | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
There could be, in Edward's mind, that he wanted to finish this off. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:18 | |
Maybe there is some kind of thing going on in Edward's head | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
where he needs to have the same kind of victory | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
as Robert had at Bannockburn. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
It might be the case that Edward Bruce likewise was | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
a bit of a hothead, and that he rushed into this battle | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
even though there were further... | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Apparently the contemporary sources say there | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
were further troops on their way, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
by way of reinforcement to him. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
But he decided to take the gamble on the battle. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
Historians have settled on this spot, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
this slope facing down towards the mouth of the pass, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
as the battlefield. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
To me, it doesn't really make sense. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
It's far too steep for cavalry to be positioned on it | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
if the Anglo-Irish are up here. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
If Edward Bruce is up here, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
he's surely going to be facing towards the town. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
That seems to be where the enemy are coming from. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
I am not convinced that this is the battlefield. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
To me, having seen a lot of battlefields in my time, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
this really doesn't make too much sense. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
Every time I've been in a place of historical importance | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
on this trip, there's been one of these things. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
Almost like a signpost saying, "Here's a battle." | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
And it's a motte. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
It's a type of Anglo-Irish fortification. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
The Normans were very good at them. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
And it's basically just a mound of earth | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
that gives you a strong point. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
And this being on the top of the hill at Faughart | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
makes it an ideal location for Edward Bruce | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
to be able to see whatever's happening around. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
So I think this location is probably a pretty good marker | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
from where to start to think about where this battle was fought. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
On top of the motte, on top of the hill at Faughart, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
I've got a very clear view down into the town, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
but importantly, it's not just the visibility, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
this is a much gentler slope. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
So, if Edward Bruce and his Scottish army | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
and his Irish allies are on this hill, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
it offers a much better advantage | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
going into a fight, because his men can move down it. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
They've got the advantage of height, but they can move down it | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
in a controlled fashion, unlike the other side, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
which is just far too steep. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
But he seems to fancy his chances. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
So there are scores to be settled, | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
and indeed, on that day, they are. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
"Then with great anger, Edward said, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
"Let whoever wants to, help, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
"but rest assured that I will fight today, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
"without more delay. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:11 | |
"Let no man say while I'm alive that | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
"superior numbers would make me flee. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
"God forbid that anyone should blame us | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
"for defending our noble name." | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
SCREAMING, METAL CLANGS | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
As it turns out, it really actually ends up being | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
an Anglo-Norman Bannockburn, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
because they completely rout the Scots | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
and that's the end of the dream, on that Dundalk hillside. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
SCREAMING, METAL CLANGS | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
He should have won that battle. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
The leader of the Anglo-Irish forces | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
was not a particularly elevated individual. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
He was a man called John de Bermingham. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
He led what by all accounts is a relatively local force of people, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
primarily from County Louth itself, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
some of them from County Meath, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
and it wasn't some vast government army | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
and they were trying to forestall the Bruces, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
presumably before they got to Dundalk and could do a lot of damage there. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:40 | |
If they had beaten Bermingham's army at Faughart, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
the chances of the Scots establishing | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
their foothold here permanently | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
would probably be a safe bet. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
HE GRUNTS | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
It goes very badly wrong for them. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Indeed, so badly wrong that Edward Bruce is killed in the battle. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
Edward's head is removed, it's packed in a box of salt | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
and sent to Edward II to prove that he is actually dead. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
His limbs are hacked off | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
and displayed in various parts of the kingdom, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
again, to demonstrate that the dreaded Edward Bruce | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
has been vanquished. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:52 | |
If that's the case, this can't be the grave of Edward Bruce. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:58 | |
But it is a fitting memorial. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
It marks the end of Edward Bruce's story, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
it marks the end of the Scottish invasion of Ireland, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
and three and a half years of warfare and grief and fear | 0:52:09 | 0:52:15 | |
come to an end somewhere near this hilltop. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
GASPING AND GRUNTING | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
We are set here in jeopardy | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
To win honour or for to die | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
We are too far frae hame to flee | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Therefore let ilk man worthy be. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
For Bruce's Irish supporters, things took a turn for the worse. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
Donal O'Neill's rivals, the O'Donnells, attacked him | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
and killed his son Seoan. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Donal himself survived, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:28 | |
but his hopes of driving the English from Ireland were in tatters. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
The war was over. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
I think there is a sense | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
in which King Robert is taken out of the account | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
of the campaign which came to grief at Faughart. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
I think that in a way, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
this was down to his brother, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
this was Edward. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:55 | |
He was carrying the can for what happened here. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
Maybe there's even a notion that Bruce, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
given these few hints we have in his correspondence, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
that Bruce somehow understood the Irish sympathetically | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
in a way that Edward didn't. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
Edward didn't know really how to treat them. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
When you think about it, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
it's a pretty odd thing for a guy to sort of show up on the Irish shore | 0:54:17 | 0:54:24 | |
and say, "I'm here to be High King." | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
And they say, "Well, who are you?" | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
So I suspect Robert Bruce, the king, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
felt that if he had led the expedition, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
there might have been a different outcome. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
Barbour is probably just as accurate as any medieval source would be, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
but you have to bear in mind the various kind of agendas he has | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
and his agenda mainly is to glorify Robert, not Edward. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
So he will give Edward due regarding courage and bravery, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:58 | |
but not necessarily a lot of common sense. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
It's always Robert who is perceived | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
as being the one who's the wiser head, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
which I think is unfair on Edward, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
but that's John Barbour for you. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
There are later charges against Edward Bruce that he's headstrong, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
that he's over-ambitious, that he's short-tempered. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
Some of that probably has to be later distancing, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
by the Scots, probably, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
of Robert I from his brother's failings. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
For Robert, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
I think it probably only confirmed the difficulties of Ireland, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
probably the insurmountable difficulties. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
I think he's more worried about what it means for Scotland, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
because with his brother's death, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
it's fairly clear from the evidence | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
that this provokes a major crisis in Scotland. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
Bruce's enemies see that now he only has his grandson, an infant, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
as his heir presumptive. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:56 | |
He hasn't yet had sons by his queen, Elizabeth de Burgh, | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
and there's a real danger | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
for the Bruce dynasty. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
But the shadow of misfortune did seem to fade. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
In 1324, Robert's wife gave birth to a son and heir, David, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
and in 1328, the English finally recognised | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
Robert's right to rule Scotland. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
To this day, he is remembered as the greatest monarch | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
ever to sit on the Scottish throne. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Robert Bruce, all through his life, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:38 | |
you find him back and forth in Ireland. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Even when he was on his deathbed - one contemporary source says, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:46 | |
"He was so ill that he could barely move his tongue," - | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
he had himself brought to Ireland on a couple of occasions | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
in the latter years of his life. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
But I think that it does show that this Bruce connection | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
with Ulster in particular is an ongoing thing, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
it's part of their background and it's part of the family life | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
and if you want to understand the Bruce invasion, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
it's not just in terms of the long-running relationship | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
between Ireland and Scotland in the Middle Ages, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
but it's the family ties between the Bruces | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
and some people in the northeast corner of Ireland. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
This period, except in some very unique quarters | 0:57:21 | 0:57:26 | |
and specialised quarters, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:27 | |
has been effectively dismissed | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
and that is interesting in itself, | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
because the potential that it might have had is staggering. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
The idea of having an Irish kingdom, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:43 | |
albeit one which had a Scots ancestry, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
well, we don't know how on earth that could have played out | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
in, you know, centuries to come. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
But for a small brief period, the Scots did have a kingdom in Ireland. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
For over three years, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
Edward Bruce was the self-styled ruler of that kingdom. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
But he never managed to inspire and lead the Irish | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
in the way that Robert did the Scots. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
Ireland remained, and would remain, a divided country. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 |