Are You Having a Laugh? TV and Disability


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Back in the Dark Ages, disabled people were marginalised, patronised

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and told to put a brave face on it.

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'Charlie Coffey has been on his back for 58 years but he can still laugh.'

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But in today's politically correct, playfully ironic world,

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attitudes towards disability are very different.

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How did you get up there?

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I fell.

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50 years ago, people with disabilities lived in a parallel universe of invalid carriages,

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callipers and charity.

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We weren't throwing stones at people in wheelchairs, but that sense of,

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"He's not like me, we must give money."

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You can't do that because you're in a wheelchair.

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Since then, language has changed.

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I started out as just plain blind. I became visually handicapped

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and visually impaired, someone with a sight problem.

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Humour has changed.

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'It's the start of the 1500 metres for the deaf.'

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STARTER PISTOL IS FIRED

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Images of disability on TV have gone from this...

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I want to be a baddie and point with my evil finger.

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-..to this...

-It must be lovely to see her laughing.

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-..via this.

-If you've never seen a severely handicapped person trying to speak, it can be a bit alarming.

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Oh, over here! Over here, puppy! Oh!

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"Get her off! She's frightening our children!"

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But how did these changes happen?

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It was nice to get the Sports Personality Award. It would've been nicer if I could have got on stage!

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We've had box-ticking, positive discrimination and - the token wheelchair.

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'For many disabled people, stairs present a painful ordeal,

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'so the Central Council For The Care Of Cripples,

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'who are pioneers in the use of equipment for the handicapped,

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'have imported from Denmark a wheelchair that acts as an escalator.'

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Society's attitude towards disability has changed, thankfully,

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and not least on our TV screens.

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There's been a revolution and perhaps the biggest change has been how we talk about the handicapped.

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No, the differently abled.

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You know, those with special needs. You know what I'm talking about!

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-Why, what are you? A spazzy?

-No...

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"Spaz", "spastic" we used to use all the time.

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"Crip", "raspberry ripple", "spaz", "mong".

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"Flid", "spastic", "mong", "spacker", "spaz", "spasmo".

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It's all about the intention and the context.

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For me, kind of "mong" is pretty nasty.

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People who had Down's syndrome were referred to as "mongols".

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Nobody was embarrassed by it because that was the word.

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But now... God, it almost stuck in my throat to say it!

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Girls at my school used to run up to me and go, "You're a spastic!"

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And I doubt I would have felt much better, had they gone, "You're differently abled!"

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I was the school flid, obviously.

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Quite a luxury. There was only 400 of us. I guess my classmates were pleased they got a proper flid.

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People would say to me, "So what's it like then?

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"How do you manage being unsighted?"

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And I'd go, "Unsighted? That makes me sound like a football referee!"

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Will you... Yes, you...

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..please help spastics?

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If language has become more inclusive, so has society.

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In the past, disabled people weren't integrated. They were different, other, out of sight, out of mind.

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'Yes, please help spastics.'

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Growing up in the '70s and early '80s, there was that feeling,

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the little boy stood outside newsagent's,

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the little sort of thing you could donate money to.

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That was a big icon of the age. There was a sense of otherness, "That boy's not like me."

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And often, it was a dreadful thing, people had shoved chips into the slot where the money should be

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because that passed for recreation back in the '70s.

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Disabilities of all sorts were other and somewhere else

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and not quite of this world.

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Disabled people were certainly a lot less visible then because of the way in which we were educated,

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because you were much more likely to be institutionalised

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as a disabled person in those days.

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TV reflects society. Go back 40 years and one of the only representations

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of disability on the small screen was set in a manky Midlands motel.

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Crossroads character Sandy Richardson was Britain's most famous fictional wheelchair user.

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Is it really as dire as it sounds?

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Sandy, with the croaky voice,

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was a bloke in a wheelchair who went from reception to the bar and back again. I watched it with my granny.

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Crossroads Motel, can I help you?

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My first memory, as I became a wheelchair user,

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was watching Crossroads which was compulsory viewing in our house every teatime

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and Sandy Richardson being the token wheelchair user, but it was all very patronising.

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It felt tokenistic and it looked tokenistic

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and it didn't bear any resemblance to my life and how I was treated.

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Oh! Oh...

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Tokenism - definitely something to be avoided then. Well, if I knew what it was.

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If you parachute a disabled performer, character into a show

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and all they get to talk about is their disability,

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then that's tokenism, I think.

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And that smacks of not necessarily being progress.

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There was one super-cool wheelchair user out there in the '60s and '70s,

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policing the strangely accessible streets of San Francisco -

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Robert T Ironside.

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Ironside, I remember, was very ahead of its time, actually -

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somebody who wasn't a baddie, was in a wheelchair,

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was very smart and was a detective, so it actually broke lots of moulds.

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He never, ever lost a case, Ironside,

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so, you know, book your lawyer in a wheelchair. That's what I'd do.

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He was an action hero to me as a kid. Anything on the telly was exciting.

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He couldn't do the high kicks like Emma Peel in The Avengers, but you'd still cheer for him.

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I remember watching Ironside and being quite young, thinking that is absolute nonsense.

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It was quite cool cos he had an accessible van.

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Oh, van envy? It's not big and it's not clever!

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I don't know what people in '70s Britain were complaining about(!)

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Ironside may have had his wheels, but they had these!

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-# Make way for Noddy

-Noddy!

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# He toots his horn to say... #

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They weren't quite cars. They were sort of bubble car type things.

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Unfortunately, we called them "spaz chariots", which is awful, but I'm just being honest.

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They were fibreglass. You could tip them over quite easily. They were meant for one person.

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You wouldn't want to take any friends anywhere cos disabled people don't have them(!)

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I remember talking to a couple once. Both were in chairs.

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They had to drive places separately as you couldn't get two wheelchairs, two people in one of these things.

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It's like walking round with two big arrows pointing at you, going, "Disabled, disabled!"

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Those little blue cars were funny.

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Whoa! Oh, shit...

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But ouch! Is that a twinge of guilt? Does laughing at disability make us bad people?

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What would Thora Hird do?

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Being able to laugh at disability is OK in every circumstance

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that it's about social attitudes to disability.

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Are you laughing at the situation or the context,

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or because you can't identify with somebody you think is a freak?

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-You know my legs?

-Hmm.

-Do you know how many I've always had an' that?

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Like two legs or some shit like that?

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Well, I've only got one leg now.

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Random. LAUGHTER

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In my view, all comedians deal with disability

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because I think doing comedy itself is a disability.

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I mean, it's basically borderline Asperger's, comedy,

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because you're looking at the world and not connecting with it emotionally, basically.

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Thinking that you can't make comedy out of disability, to me, is like the ultimate discrimination.

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It's like, "What, we're all so delicate, we're going to collapse in a heap and cry?"

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As a disabled person,

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loads of bizarre stuff happens to you.

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And if you didn't take the piss out of it,

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you'd go mad.

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Anything goes now. You don't care where people are from,

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if they have disabilities. Doesn't matter in comedy. Are they funny?

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A lot of comedy has a victim

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and often the victim is someone who's different.

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Here's a joke. A man goes to the doctor. He says, "I can't say my TH's or F's."

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The doctor says, "Well, you can't say fairer than that then."

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And that's a joke, in a sense, about someone with a lisp, I suppose.

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'And here we are at the 3,000-metre steeplechase for people who think they're chickens.'

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Tastes do change, though. 40 years ago, the Pythons were the hippest act on television.

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But would this sketch get through television's PC radar today?

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'They've settled down. They're on the water jump...'

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Monty Python is my favourite comedy series ever.

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'And here is the start of the first event of the afternoon -

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'the second semi-final of the 100 yards for people with no sense of direction.'

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You arguably see the changing attitude to disability

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when you look at some of those original sketches.

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It's on slightly soggy soil.

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Today, we're much more up front, or is it knowingly ironic,

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about how we laugh at, or is it with, the differences of disability.

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-Hi. Nice to meet you.

-Good to meet you. This is my fiancee Claire.

-Hi.

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Hi.

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Extras and The Office are not documentaries, even if The Office may look like one.

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They are fictions we have created. We have sent those scripts to actors who have agreed to be in them.

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They never turn up and we spring it on them that we'll make a joke about their height or disability,

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so they're comfortable when they arrive to do it.

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-Are you sure this food is free?

-Yes.

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-This is my agent.

-Darren Lamb, nice to meet you.

-This is Warwick.

-Where?

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-There.

-Oh, midget. Hello.

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When I walk on as a character, part of the humour is I'm an idiot.

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I'm talking rubbish, but there's a visual element to it because I'm much, much taller than Warwick.

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Could I fit in your house? How would it work?

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Am I exploiting Warwick? Do I think he's being ridiculed in it? No.

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Perhaps some people do. I don't think he does, but there we are.

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-This'll make you laugh.

-What?

-Jesus, look! Pissed over there. She's had a few.

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Actually, is she pissed or mental?

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-Here she comes.

-That's my sister.

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-Huh?

-She's got cerebral palsy.

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No...

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All my life I'd had a real worry

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about people laughing at my walk.

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And it was kind of like the ultimate liberation

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to go on national TV

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and kind of go, "OK, my walk IS funny - let's all laugh!"

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And when I saw it, I thought, "My walk is funny. I might as well get paid for it."

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Oh, God! What have you done?

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-What?

-What's happened? Are you all right?

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No, no. No, I've got cerebral palsy.

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-Don't worry.

-Oh, good!

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I was asked a lot whether it was right or PC or naughty of them

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to make comedy out of my character,

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but I said, "To me, I think that's the ultimate equality."

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CHEERING

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Francesca Martinez is an actor and a stand-up comedian,

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so does having cerebral palsy mean she can make jokes

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that a non-disabled comedian couldn't get away with?

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Before I start, I should say that, in case you're wondering,

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the correct word for my condition is, um...

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sober.

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I've found that stand-up comedy is such a good way

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to address something like disability,

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which still makes people very nervous.

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-I can't play golf.

-You can't play golf?

-No, I'm hopeless.

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Shit!

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LAUGHTER

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I'm sorry.

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Were you born like that?

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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I definitely think only disabled people should be allowed to make jokes about disability.

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In the same sense, I think disabled people should not be allowed

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to make any jokes about us normals as they don't know anything about it!

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'In a large factory making water heaters, Nicholas takes his place beside a normal factory worker.'

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In the past, having a disability certainly meant your life was very different from "the normals".

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'Peter, who but two years previously was a helpless cripple, discarded his cage for crutches.

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'Another step towards normality.'

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Kids with disability went to special schools, even if they were hundreds of miles from home.

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That was natural - keep the happy disabled kids all together!

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'School starts with morning bell...'

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We were often regarded as deeply freakish.

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We were regarded as the kids from the blind school.

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We were regarded as separate from the rest of society.

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People would ask us bizarre questions like whether they gave us soup for breakfast, stuff like that.

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And it was just an astonishing life to live, really.

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'Before coming to Coombe Farm, this girl might never have known the joy

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'of walking without aid into the arms of her happy parents.'

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I wish I'd gone to a mainstream school right from the start.

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I mean, I think as I got into my early teens,

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you know, I remember thinking... "Do all my girlfriends have to be in a wheelchair?

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"Am I only going to meet...

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"Are these the confines that I am putting around myself? Is this going to be my normality?"

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My parents got hold of the 1981 White Paper on Education, read it,

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found the line that said I had a right to be educated in a mainstream environment

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and threatened to sue the Secretary of State for Wales over that right,

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so I grew up in this atmosphere where it was... "So what?"

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That gave me a lot of confidence as a young person to do the things that I wanted.

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People have assumed that wheels mean nothing up here in the brain, you know?

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It wasn't really until the 1980s, following developments in the States,

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that a kind of consciousness began to emerge among disabled people in Britain as well and moves...

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People with what would be regarded as very high impairment levels suddenly started to think,

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"Hang on, we should be allowed to live as members of this society."

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Virtually nothing is unachievable with the right access and equipment.

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You can do anything.

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One thing that surprises me is you still come up to a new building and there'll just be a flight of steps

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and you go, "That's really annoying. You've just built that."

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The old building, I understand, the new building, I'm furious. You're lucky I'm too busy to write letters!

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So you want access, do you?

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Well, yes, when you're about to go live on television!

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In 2000, we celebrated our great Paralympian Tanni Grey-Thompson

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and forgot to put up the ramp. Oh!

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Alan Shearer was presenting. "And in third place is Britain's best-known Paralympian, Tanni Grey-Thompson."

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Tanni Grey-Thompson.

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APPLAUSE

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She couldn't get up on to the ruddy stage as there was no access for her wheelchair.

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You just think, "You could not make this up!"

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I could see there was no ramp, so I thought, "I'll just sit here."

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So the award was eventually brought down and it was like, "Thank you very much."

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Just an excruciating bit of television. Heads must have rolled all over at the BBC for that one.

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Lots of people wanted me to be angry and lash out and criticise. That's not me as an individual.

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It's more important to change things so it never happens again.

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'A fly-on-the-wall comedy about the trials of work...'

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From then on, organisers of glitzy awards ceremonies were thrown into a panic

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if there was the merest suggestion of a winning wheelchair approaching the stage.

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Thank you to Ash Atalla, our producer. Thanks to Anil Gupta...

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I think I was the first person in a wheelchair that would be regularly nominated for awards,

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so at the beginning, it was definitely an issue.

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Awards organisers would phone me up in a real panic

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and it became this thing where we would get a sense if we had won,

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depending on how much contact the organisers had had with me.

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I'd tell Ricky, "It's in the bag. They phoned to get the measurements of my chair."

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You've done a wonderful thing, not for me, but look at his little face!

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LAUGHTER

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Yeah?

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It's not just award-winners who have access problems.

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Simply getting a casting call can be an issue for many disabled actors.

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Old Ironside and Sandy from Crossroads didn't need their wheelchairs. They were just props.

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So which was the first mainstream TV drama series to employ a disabled actor,

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playing a disabled role?

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-Was it EastEnders?

-No.

-Coronation Street?

-No.

-Brookside?

-No.

-I would've thought it would've been Brookside.

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-Um...

-Come on.

-Um...

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Come on... Do you need a clue?

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-Emmerdale?

-Try again.

-Um...

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Oh, for goodness sake, it was Eldorado in 1992!

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-Yeah, this is all a wind-up, right?

-No, Nessa, I think he's really serious.

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It was way ahead of its time because it was the first time

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a disabled person ever played a disabled character,

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and it was the most normal representation of everyday life that disabled people face.

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He's very reliable.

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It's not fair. You know what's involved and so do Dad and Blair. You're all used to me.

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I got quite a lot of fan mail where people... You can't really call it fan mail,

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but letters from people saying you shouldn't be able to live, let alone be on television.

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You have to deal with that emotionally and figure out how to react to that and not react to that,

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not to take it personally and realise that you can't please everyone all the time.

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Some people just take offence to a disabled person. It could have been a black person or gay person.

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It was just a minority person on TV.

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Eldorado gave Julie Fernandez a regular role as a wheelchair user

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on mainstream TV.

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A pity then that the show was panned by the critics

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and canned after only 12 months,

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which was a shame because for years afterwards, none of the soaps

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have done disability particularly well, if at all.

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Bye!

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"EASTENDERS" THEME TUNE

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EastEnders is just not a great place to be in a wheelchair -

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the square and the houses and the pub and the cobbles.

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The Stannah Stairlift is invisible because that will take up too much screen time, it'll need explaining

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and it will make a terrible noise when the cameras are rolling.

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There are endless ways for disabled characters on TV

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to be allowed to forget they're disabled, to oil the wheels of the story line.

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How many people go in the bar at Coronation Street in a wheelchair?

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People in wheelchairs don't drink? My foot, they don't!

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It is that laziness of especially, I guess, those lighter soaps

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where they're thinking, "This will make an exciting, interesting story,"

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then, "No, if we do this, he'll have to be in a wheelchair and that'll really be annoying.

0:21:090:21:15

"We'll have to fold it up and put it in a car. He won't be able to go upstairs. Let's get him get better."

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When soaps have done the disability thing, it's often not been good.

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There's a strange and sinister trend

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where disabled characters in the soaps have been either mad or bad, or both.

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Nick Cotton, who is demonic, Nasty Nick through and through,

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fell off a viaduct, then was in a wheelchair temporarily.

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I think that sort of comes under the "punish the evil character by giving them something awful to cope with".

0:21:450:21:51

"Describe the problems you have and the help you need with your toilet needs."

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I don't know. You put something.

0:21:570:21:59

Chop off the arm, chop off the leg, shove him in a wheelchair

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and then as the baddie, they've got their karmic comeuppance.

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I've never felt evil cos I'm a wheelchair user. There's probably plenty of people who think I'm evil.

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I think that's where there's a very fine line between how you show disability.

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I hate shows, for example, where a character has an emotional flaw,

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so they put him in a wheelchair and he meets an understanding woman

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who teaches him how to love and suddenly he can walk.

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Or he was blind, then his eyes were opened metaphorically and literally.

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You know, I can't stand that crap!

0:22:340:22:37

# Oh, neighbours... #

0:22:370:22:40

I'm sorry, Kiruna. The Aussies aren't any more enlightened.

0:22:410:22:45

In Neighbours, Paul Robinson had a foot chopped off. Well, he had been rather naughty.

0:22:450:22:50

Affairs, more affairs, leaving his wife an hour after the wedding,

0:22:500:22:54

splitting up his daughter's relationship, control freakery,

0:22:540:22:58

ruthless business, trying to ruin Harold's business. If anybody needed their leg off, it was that man.

0:22:580:23:05

It was quite a move. We hadn't seen it done on another soap before.

0:23:050:23:10

It's allowed the character to seem even "badder",

0:23:100:23:13

that he's been disfigured and punished in such a terrible way.

0:23:130:23:18

A very moral universe.

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-# Because I'm bad, I'm bad

-Really, really bad

-You know I'm bad... #

0:23:210:23:25

This bizarre morality is not just confined to soaps.

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Great writers, including the Bard himself, were at it.

0:23:290:23:33

"Now is the winter of our discontent..."

0:23:330:23:36

Shakespeare, what he was doing there was making a connection between disablement and badness

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and that has been made over the years many, many times.

0:23:430:23:47

James Bond - all the baddies had something. They always had a sort of weird eye or an eye patch

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or something that made them not right,

0:23:530:23:57

so there is a kind of link which is a bit wrong.

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Captain Hook's lost a hand. He's got that scary hook. And the Daleks are pretty evil.

0:24:000:24:07

-Exterminate!

-And they've got the meanest wheelchairs I've ever seen.

0:24:070:24:11

The supreme creature, the ultimate conqueror of the Universe, the Dalek!

0:24:110:24:17

The Daleks were created by Davros who was a wheelchair user

0:24:170:24:23

and he creates a race of psychotic killing machines in his own image,

0:24:230:24:30

which, you know, I can't say I've ever been tempted to do that.

0:24:300:24:35

I can't seem to find the time, really.

0:24:350:24:39

No!

0:24:390:24:41

No!

0:24:410:24:43

I quite like the '70s "disability equals evil".

0:24:430:24:47

I'm an actor, British and disabled. That's as calculatingly evil as it can be, yet we don't get the parts.

0:24:470:24:53

Strange attitudes about disability aren't confined to the dramatic cliche.

0:24:530:24:59

In 1999, England football manager Glenn Hoddle was reported widely as having wacky views,

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linking disability to some sort of cosmic justice. It cost him his job.

0:25:050:25:09

The Football Association sacked the England coach Glenn Hoddle because of his remarks about reincarnation.

0:25:090:25:16

He reportedly implied that disabled people were suffering for sins committed in a previous life.

0:25:160:25:21

I accept I made a serious error of judgment in an interview

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which caused misunderstanding and pain to a number of people.

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A sort of moment of bonkers-ness. It was so inappropriate and not that long ago.

0:25:300:25:36

One can't help thinking that there were a few people out there, "Yes, he speaks the truth, that Mr Hoddle."

0:25:360:25:42

These are ideas literally back from sort of witch-burning days.

0:25:430:25:49

-Whoa, what's the rush?

-It's nearly time for Big Fun Time...

0:25:490:25:52

Those whose opinions about disability owe much to the teachings

0:25:520:25:56

of the Witchfinder General are still out there.

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I'm pretending to be a puppy.

0:26:000:26:02

-I can see some long...

-When Cerrie Burnell became a children's TV presenter,

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it was meant to herald a whole new age of acceptance on television.

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For Cerrie, it was the job of her dreams until some parents complained it was giving their kids nightmares.

0:26:120:26:18

It's almost time to turn off the torch and say "night-night".

0:26:180:26:22

I got a phone call saying, "Have you read The Daily Mail today?"

0:26:230:26:28

I expected something, certainly, but I wasn't sure what form that was going to take.

0:26:280:26:34

But I don't think anyone quite expected...

0:26:340:26:37

-SHE LAUGHS

-..the chaos of what ensued.

0:26:370:26:41

And I mean, it was very funny, really.

0:26:410:26:45

No-one wants a hate campaign against them, but it does get you fabulous PR.

0:26:450:26:49

"Does anyone else think the new woman presenter on CBeebies may scare the kids because of her disability?"

0:26:490:26:56

The thing is, when you grow up with a disability, you've heard it all.

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There's nothing that you haven't heard before and I suppose in some ways you develop a thick skin to it.

0:27:000:27:07

Her stump is one of the most hideous things I've ever seen and it makes me want to vomit.

0:27:070:27:12

You wouldn't want these near any children.

0:27:120:27:15

She's got a bit of a stump.

0:27:150:27:18

She's a great TV presenter. End of.

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Now here's the gallery.

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Kids' TV has, on the whole, been showing the grown-ups

0:27:240:27:28

how to integrate disability into the mainstream.

0:27:280:27:31

There was Vision On using sign language.

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Thanks for sending your paintings.

0:27:350:27:37

Ant's blinding in the shocking incident with the paintball gun on Byker Grove.

0:27:400:27:45

-I can't believe how well...

-I don't want a medal for living my life.

0:27:450:27:49

And there was Grange Hill, giving Francesca Martinez her first break.

0:27:520:27:56

You clumsy idiot, it's all over my skirt!

0:27:560:27:59

I always think children are far more accepting of difference. I think they're more honest about it.

0:27:590:28:05

They'll come out and say right away, "What's wrong with your leg?"

0:28:050:28:09

Then you tell them and they go, "Oh, cool."

0:28:090:28:12

Do they notice if someone's got a gammy leg or only one arm?

0:28:120:28:16

Or no fingers? Do they hell! They just get on with it.

0:28:160:28:20

You know what they want to know most? If it hurts.

0:28:200:28:23

When they know it doesn't hurt, they relax.

0:28:230:28:26

Then they want to see how you do stuff, then you show them a few things.

0:28:260:28:31

You say, "Mummy took a bad pill," or whatever the reason is for your impairment, and they're quite happy.

0:28:310:28:38

You explain to children what that's all about and they go, "OK, Mummy," and they move on.

0:28:380:28:43

Invariably, adults have the attitude problem.

0:28:430:28:46

Sometimes the adults just try too hard.

0:28:520:28:56

In the '70s, Blue Peter featured Joey Deacon

0:28:560:29:00

who had cerebral palsy and had written a remarkable memoir.

0:29:000:29:04

It was, no doubt, a well-intentioned attempt at educating the nation's kids about disability.

0:29:040:29:10

It backfired spectacularly.

0:29:100:29:13

Joey, you've achieved two of your ambitions. Have you got any more?

0:29:150:29:19

STRAINS TO SPEAK

0:29:210:29:23

-Write children's books.

-You're going to write children's books? Wow.

0:29:250:29:31

It sort of backfired in that children started calling...

0:29:310:29:36

..anyone who experienced any trouble kicking a football or anything "a Joey".

0:29:360:29:42

As someone with cerebral palsy,

0:29:460:29:48

yeah...

0:29:490:29:51

that really didn't do us any favours.

0:29:510:29:55

I was relieved, personally, when it became a playground insult.

0:29:550:29:59

Cos if you were a Joey... If you were slow at maths you were called a Joey.

0:29:590:30:04

The flid thing was all about being crap at sports.

0:30:040:30:08

So it was like, phew, I got a term off. Know what I mean?

0:30:080:30:12

I'll be down the pub probably.

0:30:120:30:15

What?

0:30:150:30:16

It can be, well, awkward dealing with disability.

0:30:160:30:21

Why are you speaking like that?

0:30:210:30:23

-It's a voice box.

-It's great fun. Do you get those at a toy shop?

0:30:230:30:28

-I haven't got any vocal chords.

-You sound like the girl in The Exorcist.

0:30:280:30:32

I think that's what we all really, really fear. The last thing we want to be is patronising.

0:30:320:30:39

That creates a lot of awkwardness.

0:30:390:30:41

"Do I shake her hand? Do I... Shall I just kiss her? What shall I do?"

0:30:410:30:46

Chaps have come up and started talking and, within a few minutes, asked if I'm capable of having sex,

0:30:460:30:53

which I find quite extraordinary.

0:30:530:30:56

"Do you have a boyfriend? Can you have sex?"

0:30:560:31:01

Really intimate stuff like, you know, like I'm going to talk about...really personal details

0:31:010:31:08

about really intimate areas of my body just because they're curious.

0:31:080:31:14

I remember I was in the supermarket and this woman came up and said, "Did your mother do drugs?"

0:31:140:31:20

I said, "I don't know. Ask her."

0:31:200:31:22

When people go, "Shall we go for a walk?" And...I get what that means.

0:31:220:31:27

That doesn't bother me in the slightest, but it horrifies people.

0:31:270:31:31

Or, "Step over here." That's fine.

0:31:310:31:34

I don't even flinch. If somebody goes, "Shall we go for a walk?" and I go, "Well, I can't walk!

0:31:340:31:40

"Don't be stupid," that would be a stupid, pathetic reaction on my part.

0:31:400:31:46

I'd much rather people said, "Ooh, what charming flippers you have. I'm sorry, I mean hands,"

0:31:460:31:52

than not say anything at all. And flippers is fine.

0:31:520:31:57

This is phocomelia. It means seal-like limbs.

0:31:570:32:01

Seals have flippers. It's fine. It's why I don't like playing Canada.

0:32:010:32:05

They might club me round the head.

0:32:050:32:08

-Nice of you to come. I hope you're being looked after.

-Meet Bob. He owns a garden centre.

0:32:080:32:14

Recent British comedy taps right into our difficulties with social awkwardness,

0:32:140:32:21

from Alan Partridge to the multi-award-winning The Office,

0:32:210:32:25

using disability as a source of often cringeworthy comedy.

0:32:250:32:29

I think what The Office does brilliantly, in fact, what Ricky Gervais always does brilliantly,

0:32:290:32:35

is shine the light in these areas we don't really want to look, don't really want to go,

0:32:350:32:41

but we know we should.

0:32:410:32:43

It was great on many levels, really.

0:32:430:32:46

It was such a clear indication of what not to do with a friend who's a wheelchair user.

0:32:460:32:52

AKA the disableds. You know, a lot of money goes to these fellas.

0:32:520:32:56

Not you. You're working.

0:32:560:32:59

But if you do claim you could probably claim for other stuff. Just don't abuse the system.

0:32:590:33:05

Ricky was always amused by my wheelchair. I'm amused by it.

0:33:050:33:10

So we did Series One and there was no disabled character.

0:33:100:33:14

When we started talking about Series Two, Ricky said, "I think we might bring this girl in a wheelchair

0:33:140:33:20

"from the Swindon branch to join Slough." And I remember at the time just thinking, "Oh, God..."

0:33:200:33:26

We brought in this character of Brenda because we wanted Brent

0:33:260:33:30

to be confronted in a way with someone in a wheelchair

0:33:300:33:34

and then just watch him kind of... interact with her, really.

0:33:340:33:39

She's joining in with it.

0:33:390:33:41

-Put this on? A little nose?

-No.

0:33:410:33:44

It's up to you. Up to her. Her own decisions.

0:33:440:33:48

He's selfish. He's thinking about himself. "How can I use this disabled person to make me look good?"

0:33:490:33:56

Not the right way to approach it.

0:33:560:33:59

ALARM RINGS We'll get you out of here. All right?

0:33:590:34:02

So...

0:34:020:34:04

'I think when disabled people watch

0:34:050:34:09

'those sorts of situations,'

0:34:090:34:11

they work for us as well because they're very familiar situations to us.

0:34:110:34:17

Ohhh.

0:34:170:34:18

This isn't worth it. It's stupid.

0:34:180:34:21

-Obviously in a real situation we'd take her all the way down.

-Can't I just use the lift?

-No.

0:34:210:34:27

-Not even in a drill. Never use a lift.

-We'll be out...

0:34:270:34:31

'I remember that day very clearly.'

0:34:410:34:44

I was saying to Steve and Ricky, "Please let me say something,"

0:34:440:34:49

and they're like, "It's stronger if you stay silent." And it was quite strong.

0:34:490:34:55

But the thing that scares me the most is that I've had disabled people come up to me since then

0:34:550:35:01

and say that actual thing has happened to them. You think, "No!"

0:35:010:35:06

That's happened to me. "Don't worry. We'll come back if we see flames."

0:35:060:35:11

I'd rather get out now, just in case!

0:35:110:35:14

-Welcome to Alcoholics Anonymous.

-'There's one scene in the pub'

0:35:150:35:20

and he goes, "I'll just move you out," and just pulls her away from the table.

0:35:200:35:26

'And you just think, "Don't do it!"'

0:35:260:35:30

Oh, that's probably what... turns into it...

0:35:300:35:34

So, looking forward to the weekend?

0:35:340:35:36

That actual thing did happen to me.

0:35:380:35:40

I remember saying to the boys, "I was just in the pub the other night and a guy wanted to get by

0:35:400:35:47

"and I was just drinking and I suddenly found my wheelchair being pulled."

0:35:470:35:52

That is the most offensive thing that anybody can do to me.

0:35:520:35:57

It's not what they say, but do not move me. Do not touch my chair.

0:35:570:36:01

I've been in a function where somebody sat behind me with their foot on my wheel, just rocking it.

0:36:010:36:08

'Because they thought it was nice. And I get really quite annoyed.

0:36:080:36:13

'That just feels like I'm having all my power and control taken away.'

0:36:130:36:18

I watched it and thought, "Finally, it's actually a real portrayal

0:36:180:36:24

"of life in a wheelchair for a young girl."

0:36:240:36:27

"That's all right, Dad. We don't mind buying a drink for a cripple."

0:36:270:36:32

But he said, "Eh...

0:36:320:36:34

"B-But I ain't a cripple, son." "You will be if you don't buy the next round."

0:36:340:36:39

Comedy's made a big journey over the past 40 years

0:36:390:36:44

from the prejudices of '70s clubland through the politically-correct '80s

0:36:440:36:48

to the freedom now to make jokes about pretty much anything.

0:36:480:36:53

Oh, many of you are a bit shocked. You're close to fainting.

0:36:530:36:57

Those guys, the political correct guys and alternative...

0:36:570:37:01

Alternative comedy?

0:37:010:37:03

Alternative to what? Laughing?

0:37:030:37:06

They were commentators and not comedians. There's a lot more comedians coming through now.

0:37:060:37:12

And it's really good to see. Good to see.

0:37:120:37:16

Good comics that make you laugh! And that's what it's all about.

0:37:160:37:20

You don't laugh at the disability. You laugh at the people doing the lines about it.

0:37:200:37:26

Comedy and people's attitudes were so...wrong, basically, is the only way to put it, in the 1970s

0:37:260:37:32

that you could watch someone on TV making jokes about black people and women and homosexuals

0:37:320:37:39

and disabled people and there needed to be a reaction against that

0:37:390:37:44

and it was to go probably too far the other way.

0:37:440:37:47

If you grew up with the late '70s right on-ness and then Ben Elton

0:37:470:37:52

being terribly, wearyingly politically correct in the '80s,

0:37:520:37:56

to actually have the kind of jolt of reality of something gloriously politically incorrect

0:37:560:38:03

like Peter Kay's Britain's Got The Pop Factor,

0:38:030:38:08

a spoof talent show where there were contestants called Two Up Two Down...

0:38:080:38:14

Two Up Two Down!

0:38:140:38:16

# Tragedy When the feeling's gone And you can't go on, it's tragedy! #

0:38:170:38:22

'It just made me weep with laughter and a lot of other people as well,'

0:38:220:38:27

but the sense of that being slightly not allowed was very strong.

0:38:270:38:32

-You're 100% through.

-1,000% through!

0:38:320:38:35

Yes! Thank you!

0:38:350:38:37

Oh.

0:38:400:38:42

TOM BAKER: If you have a verruca and would like to share it with others,

0:38:430:38:47

why not pop down to your local swimming pool?

0:38:470:38:51

'Oh, look, it's me! Gosh, I'm hairy.

0:38:510:38:55

'Pushing the comedy envelope that little bit further has been me and Matt as Lou and Andy.'

0:38:550:39:01

Em, excuse me?

0:39:010:39:04

Andy from Little Britain was the last properly contentious disability thing my mates got pissed off about.

0:39:040:39:11

I thought it was quite funny.

0:39:110:39:14

I wonder if you'd give me a hand. I'm here with a friend who you may see is in a wheelchair.

0:39:140:39:20

And I need a little bit of help getting him in and out of the pool.

0:39:200:39:24

I did find it very funny when he ran up the diving board and dived in

0:39:240:39:29

cos actually I do know a few people who, em...who are a bit like that character, actually.

0:39:290:39:35

But he does have a slight fear of water.

0:39:350:39:39

You know, he...

0:39:390:39:41

'That seems a bit cruel to me and a bit unnecessary.'

0:39:410:39:45

That is a very funny sketch

0:39:450:39:47

and I'm slightly annoyed with myself for laughing, but it's funny.

0:39:470:39:52

The humour has got nothing to do with the wheelchair.

0:39:520:39:56

It's because he's a lazy slob!

0:39:560:39:58

And this wonderful, caring chap who is pushing him everywhere,

0:39:580:40:02

when he turns his back, he goes off and does something quite eccentric. That is funny!

0:40:020:40:08

It's like their disability is their need for each other

0:40:080:40:12

and that's what makes it funny

0:40:120:40:14

and human and real and quite sad, really.

0:40:140:40:18

What's really interesting about Lou and Andy is that all the complaints

0:40:180:40:22

were from non-disabled people.

0:40:220:40:25

'What Lou and Andy were doing was OK

0:40:250:40:28

'because they were actually subverting the care system.

0:40:280:40:33

'And for me that kind of worked.

0:40:340:40:37

'I've never had a disabled person find that remotely objectionable.'

0:40:370:40:41

Did you shower?

0:40:410:40:44

-Hey, hey, hey, hey!

-What?

0:40:480:40:50

-What?

-Give me that back!

-I'm a Vietnam veteran! Leave me alone.

0:40:500:40:55

I'm a Viet...

0:40:550:40:57

'In World Shut Your Mouth I did have an electric wheelchair'

0:40:570:41:01

and I dressed up as a Vietnam veteran who supposedly had no arms,

0:41:010:41:05

but basically was a shoplifter.

0:41:050:41:08

When he'd go down supermarket aisles, everyone would ignore him

0:41:080:41:13

and then my real arm would just steal things from people's trolleys.

0:41:130:41:19

Sorry. It was funny.

0:41:190:41:21

Yes, Dom, that was very naughty.

0:41:210:41:24

Mind you, it is tempting sometimes

0:41:250:41:29

to put on a limp, just a little one. Think of the advantages!

0:41:290:41:34

One good thing about being in a wheelchair is you get a lot of stuff free. You get plus one at the cinema.

0:41:350:41:41

And that is for a carer. That's what they call it.

0:41:410:41:45

So I've often made female friends dress up as nurses.

0:41:450:41:50

At drama school, I'd pretend to faint in pubs and they gave you a brandy.

0:41:500:41:54

It was my cheap way to get drinks.

0:41:540:41:56

We've all parked in a disabled spot outside a supermarket and got out and had to do a stupid limp.

0:41:560:42:02

All you need is that blue badge.

0:42:020:42:05

One can park right outside the shop and on double yellow lines. Brilliant.

0:42:050:42:10

Being able to go to the front of the queue in Disney is not bad.

0:42:100:42:14

First time, I had this huge guilt complex. It was, "Oh, no..."

0:42:140:42:18

That's the Britishness as well.

0:42:180:42:20

Other perks of being disabled - the mercy shag is always a good one.

0:42:200:42:25

Had a few of them in my time.

0:42:250:42:27

Thanks, Sarah, Natalie and Mary.

0:42:270:42:30

Well, I would never do that.

0:42:310:42:34

But I do confess to once - just once - using a disabled loo. Sorry.

0:42:340:42:40

-You can't use the disabled!

-Why not?

-It's illegal!

0:42:400:42:45

We've all been guilty of using the disabled toilet, let's face it.

0:42:450:42:49

It's nice and big, you can take your coat off and there's always a mirror.

0:42:490:42:54

It's a good place to have sex in if you pull on the night.

0:42:540:42:58

That's the way to look at it.

0:42:580:43:01

Shocking! That's the last time I use one.

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These facilities were hard fought for and not for people too cheap to get a room.

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When I was young, as a wheelchair user, there weren't accessible toilets. Anywhere.

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I remember being in London as a child with my mum and dad and someone saying, "Try Paddington Station."

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That was nine miles away.

0:43:230:43:26

When you turn up to a disabled toilet, it's almost always engaged.

0:43:260:43:30

And 90% of the time the person in it isn't disabled.

0:43:300:43:34

I can give you that as a statistical fact.

0:43:340:43:38

'Rather than coming out and limping, they just peg it to get out of sight very quickly.'

0:43:380:43:43

Ohhh.

0:43:490:43:50

-KNOCKING Hello? Are you all right?

-I'm disabled!

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Those emergency cords exist and I have pulled one by accident.

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You think it's a light

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or it might be... I don't know. It could be a flush.

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I'm wise to it now. You'd think if anybody would know not to do it, it would be me, but I have.

0:44:070:44:13

Ohh...

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-Oh, my God! What happened?

-I fell off the toilet.

0:44:160:44:21

'Graham Linehan, who writes The IT Crowd, loves the absurd.'

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And a small decision that Roy made led to him going back to Manchester on a bus

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with a group of disabled people.

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'That's what makes it at the end. It's the pain that Roy is under.

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'He knows that he's done immense wrong and yet, because he's on a very, very slow-rising lift,

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'he just has to front it out.'

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Hello, there! I didn't see you on the way out.

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# I'm all right, just dance... #

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Some people might say, allegedly, and we're not saying this ourselves,

0:45:020:45:06

but there is one famous person who has perhaps, how shall I put it, been very upfront

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about their disability in the celebrity arena - Heather Mills.

0:45:110:45:15

# Just dance! #

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The way she goes about it is she picks something that she's not really cut out for,

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has a go, it doesn't matter if she's shit.

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It's still going to be inspirational.

0:45:300:45:33

Lots of people out there who are amputees, leg amputees,

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could see that she did it and probably quite well considering

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and it helped them, I'm sure, to realise that if she can do it then they can do it.

0:45:420:45:48

So from that point of view I'm really grateful to her.

0:45:480:45:52

Dancing on one leg on ice - I can't even stand up on ice.

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On my hands and knees I'm terrified.

0:45:560:45:59

Deep respect. I know I should think she's brilliant. She is a great role model to all disabled people

0:45:590:46:05

and to her daughter and I loathe her. I can't help it.

0:46:050:46:08

She's a good inspiration for people who want to grab a husband.

0:46:080:46:12

In the dark and distant past, if you could put disability together with entertainment,

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what you ended up with was the freak show.

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Putting disability and entertainment together today is an unlikely pioneer - Big Brother.

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Big Brother - blindness, Tourette's. Never had a wheelchair, have they? It's that MASSIVE staircase!

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In 2006, Big Brother announced its first disabled contestant - Pete Bennett.

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He was on there, let's face it, because he's got Tourette's and it's good TV.

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I'm not... WHISTLES, BEEPS

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I'm not going to win. I'm not.

0:47:000:47:02

I think it was great telly. He won because he was a great personality.

0:47:020:47:07

What started off being a novelty act... He was ticking a box. "Get a cute guy with Tourette's."

0:47:070:47:14

By the end of the show we knew him so well that you forgot that every other word began with F.

0:47:140:47:18

I came in here to have a good laugh, to have a good time.

0:47:180:47:23

Shut up, ya BLEEP! Shut up!

0:47:230:47:26

In 2008, Mikey Hughes took up the Big Brother challenge.

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'The reason I went to Big Brother is, obviously, being blind'

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I feel blind people are shoved away... They're almost forgotten about in society.

0:47:370:47:43

I wanted to launch myself onto the mainstream.

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CROWD CHEERS

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I came runner-up. 1.5% away from winning the show. One of the closest finals ever.

0:47:510:47:57

I think I got that far because I did entertain, probably not because I'm blind.

0:47:570:48:04

He was intensely patronised by people "helping" him.

0:48:040:48:08

What was fantastic was to see him puncturing these preconceptions about a person with disability.

0:48:080:48:13

-I see from a different perspective now.

-Definitely.

-I can see why Mikey is tired.

0:48:130:48:19

The sympathy vote is the big worry in a way,

0:48:190:48:23

but I suppose if you do win the show and get the 100 grand cheque, you think, "Nice sympathy vote!"

0:48:230:48:31

That's one of the joys of Big Brother that they give disabled people the right to be equally flawed,

0:48:310:48:37

mean, nasty, grabby, selfish as anybody else.

0:48:370:48:42

Aaaoow!

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If Big Brother is an unlikely champion of disability portrayal, here's another surprise.

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# Hearts of Gold

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# Hearts of Gold! #

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For many people there's nothing worse than a bleeding heart charity show. Prepare to be patronised.

0:48:550:49:01

'You get disabled people being given these dreadfully tacky'

0:49:020:49:06

hearts of gold simply because they'd lived their lives against the odds.

0:49:060:49:11

The irony there is that the reason they lived lives against the odds

0:49:110:49:16

was because... not because of their bravery and ability to triumph over tragedy,

0:49:160:49:22

but because of the barriers society started to put in their way.

0:49:220:49:27

We, as a nation, have got ourselves into, I would say, looking at disabled people as charity.

0:49:270:49:34

Never squat down as a disabled person in the London Underground.

0:49:340:49:38

People will put money between your legs. Sometimes that's quite good, if you want chips and a pint.

0:49:380:49:46

In the '70s and '80s you saw a lot of portrayals of disabled people

0:49:460:49:52

but they were part of charity telethons

0:49:520:49:56

and quite patronising documentaries

0:49:560:50:00

and appeals on Blue Peter, that sort of thing.

0:50:000:50:05

And when disabled people started to have a voice,

0:50:050:50:08

to a great extent

0:50:080:50:11

all of those programmes went away.

0:50:110:50:15

50 years has seen enormous changes in how people with disabilities are treated, talked about

0:50:220:50:28

and portrayed on the TV.

0:50:280:50:31

And there's no going back. In 2009, a comedy drama series,

0:50:310:50:35

a spoof reality show with Kiruna Stamell

0:50:350:50:37

and Mat Fraser, broke new ground. It was credible,

0:50:370:50:41

controversial and without a token wheelchair in sight.

0:50:410:50:45

Starring six disabled actors, it may have just changed television drama forever.

0:50:450:50:52

Six disabled characters all played by disabled actors, all played very well.

0:50:530:50:59

'Hugely engaging performances and people being what they are.'

0:50:590:51:03

What made you decide to do it?

0:51:030:51:06

I didn't want another programme with Born Agains moaning about how they used to be able to see or walk.

0:51:060:51:13

Nothing was taboo, so you got to kind of see a world that you don't very often get to see.

0:51:130:51:20

'The disability was always there and it was always onscreen

0:51:200:51:24

'and it did have an impact on the characters,'

0:51:240:51:27

but it was the other aspects of their life - their friendships, their relationships, who they were -

0:51:270:51:34

that also got space centre stage.

0:51:340:51:37

Oh. A nice run.

0:51:370:51:39

Going to take it nice and slow.

0:51:410:51:44

'In this day and age, if a character is disabled, they try to get an actor with that impairment to do it.'

0:51:440:51:52

Hopefully, spacking up, cripping up or whatever you call it, that's over.

0:51:520:51:57

But if more disabled actors get jobs, there's a problem.

0:51:590:52:03

Until now, playing disabled has been a sure-fire route to an Oscar for the normals.

0:52:030:52:09

Isn't it going to be discriminatory if they can't do this any more?

0:52:090:52:14

Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot.

0:52:140:52:16

Oscar.

0:52:160:52:18

Dustin Hoffman, Rain Man. Oscar. John Mills, Ryan's Daughter. Oscar.

0:52:180:52:22

-Yeah.

-Seriously.

0:52:220:52:25

You are guaranteed an Oscar if you play a mental.

0:52:250:52:29

Kate Winslet in Extras points out that the quickest route to an Oscar is to play a disabled person.

0:52:290:52:36

You know...

0:52:360:52:38

Famously... You know, in 1931 there was a film called Freaks, a great film.

0:52:380:52:43

It still holds the Hollywood record for the most disabled actors in it.

0:52:430:52:47

And there's a bloke in it called Johnny Eck who has no legs. Pretty freaky. You'd look. I'd look.

0:52:470:52:55

Apparently, the film rights to his story have been bought by Leonardo DiCaprio. That's what I heard.

0:52:550:53:01

Probably the only way he'll get an Oscar.

0:53:010:53:04

When able-bodied people play disabled characters, they win an Oscar. That's slightly weird.

0:53:040:53:11

And, you know, you can even look at an able-bodied actor playing a disabled person and think,

0:53:110:53:17

"It's just about the BAFTAs."

0:53:170:53:21

Now if you cast somebody in a disabled role that was non-disabled,

0:53:210:53:25

you'd be straight into a news studio having to defend yourself. You can't get away with it now.

0:53:250:53:31

And that's progress, isn't it?

0:53:310:53:33

Adam! I was getting worried. Charley said he dropped you...

0:53:330:53:37

More progress - soaps are featuring new disabled characters with believable storylines

0:53:370:53:44

played by a new generation of disabled actors. Hurrah!

0:53:440:53:47

-Yeah, I do shake hands.

-I knew that, I knew that.

0:53:470:53:53

It's brilliant that we have disabled people playing disabled characters in EastEnders and Emmerdale

0:53:530:53:59

and Hollyoaks. It's about time.

0:53:590:54:02

It's been 17 years since Eldorado.

0:54:020:54:05

For me, that really represents mainstream acceptance.

0:54:050:54:09

And the mundanity of a soap, in a way I think it really allows

0:54:090:54:14

for the representation of disability to be much more naturalistic.

0:54:140:54:19

Statistically,

0:54:190:54:20

there should be about four or five characters in there who are disabled.

0:54:200:54:27

And gradually we've seen that happen with EastEnders

0:54:270:54:32

over the last couple of years.

0:54:320:54:34

She presumed I was a few noodles short of a chow mein.

0:54:340:54:39

I love Hayley in Hollyoaks. She is having more sex than, well, me.

0:54:390:54:43

It disproves that old myth that you're welded to your wheelchair

0:54:430:54:48

with no feeling from the waist down.

0:54:480:54:50

Frank, how credible are those claims?

0:54:530:54:56

Disability is in the news as well. Literally. Look, there's ace reporter Frank Gardner in his chair

0:54:560:55:02

and don't the BBC love showing it? You never see Fiona Bruce's legs, but you always see Frank's wheels.

0:55:020:55:09

Frank Gardner's quite a good example of how things have changed. In the old days,

0:55:100:55:17

if there was an impairment they'd do a really tight shot on just the eyes or something.

0:55:170:55:23

"Don't show the difference!"

0:55:230:55:25

Now they're like, "Look! Look! We've got a disabled correspondent

0:55:250:55:29

"and we're very proud of him and his disability, which we're equal about!"

0:55:290:55:32

Where there's discrimination

0:55:320:55:35

sometimes tokenism is the only way to begin to shift that.

0:55:350:55:40

I think it's worse not to have anyone on that's different

0:55:400:55:45

for fear of being tokenistic

0:55:450:55:48

than it is to be labelled tokenistic.

0:55:480:55:52

Statistics show that approximately one woman in ten doesn't hear as well as she should...

0:55:520:55:58

It can be complicated, this brave new world of inclusion.

0:55:580:56:03

Cast a deaf actor in a deaf role and you can still get in a right old muddle.

0:56:030:56:08

Recently I was casting a deaf actress. Some actresses came in

0:56:090:56:13

and they were deaf, but didn't sound deaf. And they would say, "Do you want me to deaf it up?"

0:56:130:56:19

And I found myself going, "Yeah, could you sound a bit more deaf?"

0:56:190:56:24

They'd go, "You know I am deaf?" I'd say, "But you don't sound deaf. If I cast you, I'll get in trouble

0:56:240:56:30

"for not casting a deaf person, so sound deafer."

0:56:300:56:34

We have got quite a long way to go, but it is so good to see

0:56:340:56:39

that finally some disabled people are getting into really good positions.

0:56:390:56:45

George W Bush.

0:56:450:56:46

-Thank you.

-If you're a disabled performer and want equality,

0:56:470:56:52

that does mean you're going to be judged equally with everyone else... and might not like what you hear.

0:56:520:56:59

There used to be a reviewer for the Evening Standard who did a brilliant quote about something I was in.

0:56:590:57:05

"Normally I believe in seeing the personality, not the disability,

0:57:050:57:09

"but Mat Fraser's biggest disability is his personality." Very good.

0:57:090:57:13

It's good to make jokes like that.

0:57:130:57:16

There's more freedom to explore it maturely. You don't have to be as cut and dried now.

0:57:160:57:22

You're allowed ambiguity, subtlety.

0:57:220:57:25

I don't want special treatment because I'm disabled. I'd like a fair crack of the whip.

0:57:250:57:31

It's like civil rights movements in America in the '60s.

0:57:310:57:35

Would Obama be President if it wasn't for the civil rights action in the 1960s?

0:57:350:57:42

So I hope to be Prime Minister one day.

0:57:420:57:46

-# Reasons to be cheerful, part three

-One, two, three...

-#

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From Big Brother to Downing Street is some career curve,

0:57:500:57:56

but as celebrity wannabes like Mikey brazen it out,

0:57:560:57:59

it does seem that on TV and in the wider world, the person is emerging from behind the disability.

0:57:590:58:06

BOTH: Happy birthday!

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When children's TV presenters want to move on to adult work,

0:58:080:58:13

they kind of do FHM or whatever.

0:58:130:58:15

I mean I just would never do that, but...I think it's funny that that's the question I'm asked.

0:58:150:58:21

"We've seen your arm. Now let's see your tits."

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And that, dear viewer, is progress.

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