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THIS PROGRAMME CONTAINS SOME STRONG LANGUAGE. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:10 | |
Set up in 1936, LIFE magazine believed that pictures | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
could change the world. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
The brainchild of publisher Henry Luce, it was a weekly | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
news magazine packed full of extraordinary photojournalism. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
Through America's most dynamic decades - the '40s, '50s and '60s - | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
LIFE documented its growth into a world superpower. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
The torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
But not in words - in pictures. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Really, LIFE is a celebration of America, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
that's what they're celebrating in the pages of LIFE - | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
its power, its shift, its change. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It's a fantastic magazine, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
because at that time, America was a fantastic place. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
At LIFE, the photographer was king. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
They pioneered new forms of photojournalism like embedding | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
and photo essays, and they caught the big moments in American history. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
These were people directly in front of me who were being shot. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
From political assassination to the civil rights movement. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
I keep asking you this, but you weren't scared for your life at all? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
I didn't think about it. I really didn't think about it. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
It was about the pictures. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
And the new sexual freedom. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I was able to go live in Hugh Hefner's mansion | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and stay for ever and ever and ever. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
What was that like? | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
Well, it made me horny, I'll tell you that! | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
To me, the men and women who shot for LIFE | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
are the gods of photography. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
I'm on a pilgrimage across the USA | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
to find out how THEY told the story of America, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
what made them tick and what made them click. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
I'm starting with the first era of LIFE photographers from 1936, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
so I've come to Martha's Vineyard | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
to meet a very special guy, Ralph Graves. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
-Hi! -Hello. -You must be Ralph. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
And you must be Rankin. Almost certain of it! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Come on in. -How you feeling? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
'Ralph held the top job at LIFE, managing editor.' | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
When he started in the early days, he was a cub reporter. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
It's those days I want to talk about. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Because unlike any other magazine, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
at LIFE, it was the photographers who led | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and the reporters who followed. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
Our job was to help the photographer get the story. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
We carried the photographers' bags, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
sometimes very heavy bags and sometimes quite a lot of them. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
We were the pigs | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and the photographers were the big-time farmers. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
No other magazine held the photograph | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
or the photographer in such high esteem. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
The list of guys whose bags Ralph carried | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
reads like a who's who of photography. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
But they started with just four - Thomas McAvoy, Peter Stackpole, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Alfred Eisenstaedt and Margaret Bourke-White. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Bourke-White had the honour of shooting the very first LIFE cover. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Glamorous, dynamic and completely fearless, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
she became a household name, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
and Ralph knew her very well. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
She was very painstaking | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
in the way she photographed anything. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
It took for ever! She liked to use lights, flash lights for everything. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
I don't think she trusted God to handle the sun properly. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
SHE was going to do it! | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
She had a quite a reputation as a very hot property. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:21 | |
Beautiful woman. Very well dressed, always looked like a lady. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
Which she wasn't, totally. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
She slept with a fair number of generals, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
but they were important to her cause. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
And an occasional colonel, if he had authority | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
for something she wanted to shoot. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
The LIFE picture editor sent a cable to another LIFE photographer, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:56 | |
Eliot Elisofon, who was also covering World War II in Europe. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
This message was very insulting. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
It said, "Bourke-White is getting stories that you aren't getting | 0:05:04 | 0:05:11 | |
"and pictures that you aren't getting. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
"What's the matter with you?" | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
And Eliot sent back one of the legendary cables in LIFE's history. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:22 | |
He said, "Bourke-White has a piece of equipment that I don't have." | 0:05:22 | 0:05:30 | |
All those generals and colonels knew about it! | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Bourke-White's methods may have been unique, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
but her three colleagues in those early days were just as inventive. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Thomas McAvoy specialised in disguises | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
and hidden cameras to catch people with their guard down. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Peter Stackpole was the mad scientist, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
tinkering in his home workshop where he invented an underwater camera. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
But for me, the master of the first four was Alfred Eisenstaedt. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
Fleeing his native Germany in 1935, he brought with him | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
a candid style of photography that became LIFE's trademark. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
He's the one photographer who worked for the magazine | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
from the beginning to the end on over 2,000 assignments. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
"Eisie" would become the grand old man of LIFE | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
and a photography legend. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Eisie to look at was not much. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
He was short, he was stocky, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
but very proud that he could do one-handed push-ups. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
One-handed! I was pretty damn impressed. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
And I saw him do it. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
He could shoot anything that moved. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
So quick with a candid camera, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
lights almost never needed, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and one or two shots, and he was finished. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Let's go on to something else. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Needle sharp, very certain of his skills. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
These are all American military men saying goodbye | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
to their sweethearts and wives at Pennsylvania Station. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
These were taken, not with a Leica, but with a Rolleiflex. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
You know why? Because with a Rolleiflex, I could focus like this, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
with the old Rolleiflex, like this, and hold it for minutes, like this. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
As you see, I talk to you like this, and watch you and click there. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
Click. See? Do this and watch you again. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Absolutely motionless, like a stone. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
They didn't know that I photographed them. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
But if I would do this, they would see me. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
"What are you doing?" See, like this. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Here like this. Click. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I think all photographers look to Eisie as this kind of guy | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
who we put up on a pedestal. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
If you know anything about photography, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
you put him on a pedestal. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
He made him feel, to me, really cheeky and naughty, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and the fact he does one-handed press-ups | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
and was shooting for the magazine into his late 70s is incredible. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
Part of why the photographers of LIFE | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
are so influential is the millions of people who saw their work. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
The first issue rolled off the press in 1936. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Every copy sold out on the first day. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
America took to it instantly. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
With success on the home front established in its first few years, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
it was the onset of World War II | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
that really secured LIFE's place in American hearts and minds. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
America didn't just want LIFE, it needed it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
From 1941 onwards, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
American husbands, sons and lovers were overseas fighting. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
You could hear about what they were going through on the radio, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
but the only place you actually saw it was in LIFE. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
The horror of it and the occasional glory of it. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
The first photograph ever published of an American soldier dead | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
was in LIFE magazine. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
LIFE was defined by its bravery. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Its photographers dangled from helicopters | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
and crawled into caves. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
They dodged bullets and survived prisoner-of-war camps. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
Robert Capa's pictures of the Omaha Beach landings, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Bob Landry's of French collaborators, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
or W Eugene Smith's work in the Pacific. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
These are some of the most harrowing and emotional images | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
in the history of photojournalism. It was a tough time for America, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
but right to the end of the war, LIFE was there for them. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
-VOICE-OVER: -It was the long-awaited moment, and the lid was off! | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Unparalleled were the scenes as multitudes | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
surged around Miss Liberty throwing restraint to the winds! | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
And when victory was declared, LIFE was there again. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
The magazine caught the jubilation and the spirit of America in 1945, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
and nowhere better than in this single famous frame by Eisie. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
I love the spontaneity of this shot. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
He stood, he waited and he grabbed it. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
I'm going back to the same spot in Times Square | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
to try to get my own Eisie moment. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Hi, guys. You haven't got any idea where this was shot, do you? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-Where that was shot? -Yeah. -I think it was over there. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Look, there's a Coca-Cola sign right down there. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
I just spoke to the cops, and the cop says that there is | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
a Coca-Cola sign, and he's saying that Coca-Cola have had | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
that sign there for ever and ever, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
so he's saying that it's most probably this way. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
If you were shooting this way, that would be the Paramount, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
and that's Bond's. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:57 | |
After half an hour of searching, I'm sure I've found the spot, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
but hadn't found anything to shoot. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
But Eisie must have been smiling down on me, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
because just when all hope was lost, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
these two popped up in the crowd. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
-Hi, I'm Rankin, nice to meet you. -Hi. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
I'm a photographer from London | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
doing a documentary about LIFE magazine, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and you guys almost look perfect for the photograph, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
-and we were wondering if we could quickly duplicate it. -OK. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
-If you could do the kiss, that would be brilliant. -I go like this? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
You go like that, yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on! | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
That's it, and kiss. Kiss! Kiss! That's it! That's it! That's it! | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
Hold on, wait for the cab! | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Lean her over, lean her over! | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
Here we go. OK, go! Go! | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
CHEERING | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
That's amazing, one more. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
That's good kissing! | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
CAR HONKS HORN | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Yeah, we love it as well. Brilliant! | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Nice! | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
Thank you! So lovely to meet you. Thank you. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
America after the war was a changed place. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
It had become a superpower | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and was learning how to deal with that responsibility. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
LIFE was growing up, too. The four start-up photographers were now 38 | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
and they were developing new ways of telling stories. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Over ten or 12 pages, with just the tiniest amount of text, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
LIFE brought people their news | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
by turning it into gripping, compelling stories | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
using only photographs. They called it the photo essay, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
and it brought an intensity to news stories | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
that had never been experienced before. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Some of LIFE's essays are seminal. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Stories like Leonard McCombe's Career Girl | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
which took the issue of women in the workforce | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
and turned it into a touching melodrama. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
And W Eugene Smith's Country Doctor, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
essentially a call to arms for more GPs, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
but through his eyes, a poignant and heroic look | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
at the work of a rural physician. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
'A few blocks from Times Square lives John Loengard, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
'one of LIFE's most influential photographers.' | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
He shot many brilliant photo essays for LIFE | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
as well as some amazing portraits. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
He also impressed the soldiers in Vietnam | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
with his toughness and appetite for dog, lizard, even rats, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
when food was scarce. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
John's not only a brilliant photographer. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
He went on to become LIFE's picture editor. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
I could talk to him all day about his work, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
but that's not why I'm here. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
I want to ask him about LIFE's photo essays, and in particular, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
about the two giants who created its Golden Age | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
in the late '40s and early '50s. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
So in your opinion, was the photographic essay a LIFE invention? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
I don't know whether the essay was. The term was. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
It was one that Henry Luce coined about a year after LIFE started, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:27 | |
so something that he coined looking at what the magazine had done. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
And, you know, it really started in the first issue. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Bourke-White had gone out to do | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
a story on the workers at the Fort Peck Dam | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and how they spent Saturday night. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
And of course, what it does is | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
it takes the whole dam-building story on the west, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
which was news, and gives it a human dimension. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
I love that idea of it being an insight into people's lives, | 0:14:53 | 0:15:01 | |
actually as they were doing it. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Which you couldn't have done before, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
as you didn't have cameras that were necessarily as fast, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
-film that was as fast... -You didn't, no. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
..to be able to picture these people | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
in the midst of what they were doing in life. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
And you didn't really have the publications | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
that gave the opportunity | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
to instruct photographers in that possibility. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
If you skip ahead to after the war, you have a change. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
And here, right after the war, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
one big thing is women wanting to stay in the workforce, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
women going to work, and to pick out one girl, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
one person in New York, and focus on her, which Leonard McCombe did. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:44 | |
And Leonard had an absolutely brilliant way | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
of being able to photograph absolutely ordinary things, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
telling you so much about the people in them. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
"Marilyn and Gwyned take their morning baths hurriedly, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
"according to a strict rotation schedule. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
"The other placidly waits her turn, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
"and reads aloud from the St Charles Cosmos-Monitor, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
"which is mailed to them daily, and remains a firm link with home." | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
The Bourke-White photographs to these, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-there's an intimacy, there's a closeness. -Yes. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
And actually, as you go through it, gets closer and closer and closer. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
"After a telephone squabble with Charlie, Gwyned bursts into tears. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
"She's under continual strain, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
"because she's anxious to make a success of her career. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
"Tears might be caused merely | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
"by the shattering of a tumbler or a cigarette burn on a new dress. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
"In this case, it was the simple and harmless vagueness | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
"of Charlie Strauss." | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
For intimacy, McCombe's photo-essays have never been equalled. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
But the other master of the photo-essay, who I have a special, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
personal interest in, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
is W Eugene Smith. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
It was seeing his work as a young man that made me want to become | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
a photographer in the first place. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
W Eugene Smith, who I would argue | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
is possibly the greatest photographer that was on the staff, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
he was doing essays that had | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
extraordinary drama and emotion to them. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
"Having done his best for the child, Ceriani is worn out and tense. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
"He has stitched the wound in her forehead, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
"but already knows that nothing can be done to save her eye, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
"and tries to think of a way to soften the news for her parents." | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
There's just an extraordinary | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
amount of empathy in his photographs. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Whereas with Leonard, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
you're surprised at how intimate things are. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
With Gene, I think you're surprised | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
at how you understand exactly how anybody in the photograph feels. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
"In the kitchen, while the women whisper, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
"Ceriani telephones the priest, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
"to tell him that the old man will not live through the night." | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
I think that he had this extraordinary ability, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
and what came with it was some personal liabilities, if you want, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
we all have them. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
And sometimes, they got in his way. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
I'm learning that to be The Man From LIFE meant many different things. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
Smith was definitely the tortured genius - LIFE's Van Gogh, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
partly because he had such empathy for his subjects. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
I do like to become so immersed in their life, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:42 | |
that I become a part of their life. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Maybe even a contributing part, although this is not my intent. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
And then I like to speak from that position. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:59 | |
I like to speak of what I am participating in. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
A unique blend of journalism and art | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
the photo-essay became | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
the very definition of what LIFE was all about. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
All the next generation of photographers needed was stories, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
and America was going to provide them... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
# Don't know why I love you | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
# Don't know why I care | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
# I just want your love to share | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
# I wonder why | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
# I love you like I do | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
# Is it because | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
# I think you love me, too? | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
# I wonder why | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
# I love you like I do... # | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
The 1950s were the boom years for America. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
In a time of increasing affluence and after wartime austerity, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
LIFE was playing back to its readers | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
images of their country and themselves, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
that seemed both authentic and reassuring. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Millions of people could discover modern American life, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
be stimulated by it and feel part of it. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
I can't begin to tell you all the things in LIFE this week, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
and every week. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
News, sports, fashions, politics, everything. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
I have my copy. Why don't you get yours? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
At your nearest news dealer tomorrow. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
LIFE and America were now going steady, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and nothing was going to split them up. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Nearly 100 million Americans looked at the magazine every week. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
That's more than half the country. Incredible. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
The man in charge of choosing and laying out the stories | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
was the director of photography. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Ron Bailey held that post | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and witnessed the impact LIFE had on ordinary Americans. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
What do you think the American population loved about it so much? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
I'm not sure. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
You know, for many years it was the way we could see the world. | 0:20:53 | 0:21:01 | |
We find it hard now with all the television, and all the cable, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
and all the internet where you can see videos, but, you know, LIFE... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
We always thought of LIFE as a way of seeing the world. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
And it carried.... | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
..carried a lot of influence. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
As a photographer, that's what you strive for. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
You strive to be able to have your photographs touch other people | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
and make them feel something, and LIFE photographers had that. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
When I think about it that gives me goose bumps, I'm like, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
"Wow, to be able to get those stories, to go and do those things," | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
and not just essays but, brilliant science photos or brilliant portraits. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
You know, they had the ability to touch people. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Right. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
One of the most powerful stories we did while I was at the magazine | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
was in 1969, and it was an editor's idea to take pictures, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:59 | |
pick up pictures from families of the week's dead in Vietnam. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I think it was 220-something. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And we carried a photograph of everyone killed in that week. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
To me, that was the most powerful thing | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
we could have done against the war, and I was against the war. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Sometimes I think back on, you know, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
what was the impact of this magazine? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
And the impact was there in, I guess, a thousand other ways | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
when I was growing up. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
It was, you know... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
You looked at LIFE magazine and that was how you saw the world. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
What Ron said is quite shocking. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
For one publication to be the window of the world | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
is massively influential. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
I knew LIFE's coverage of Vietnam had turned people against the war, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
but talking to Ron made me realise LIFE always had that power. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Right from the beginning, telling America | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
what to think, not just about big world events, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
but about itself. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
LIFE always cared about the big issues of the day, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
but was devoted to small-town America. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Stories of the lives of ordinary people, their work, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
their pleasure, their anguish. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
The magazine returned to them again and again, across the decades, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
as if the small town summed up everything that LIFE believed in. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
But why? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
'I've come to Wilson, North Carolina, to meet photographer Burk Uzzle.' | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
That's the famous red-eye gravy. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Hold onto it - it'll walk by itself right out the door if you're not careful. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
'Burk came from a small town, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
'travelled the world taking pictures for LIFE, and now he's back in one.' | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
How do you think small town America, somewhere like this, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
kind of reflects America as a whole? | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
I think... It's an interesting question because in a way it reflects | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
what I both like and dislike about LIFE magazine. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
The great thing about working for LIFE magazine | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
was that it, in those days, what you, what you went for, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
the ideology of the magazine, was to go for that superb moment, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:28 | |
the exalted moment. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Even in a quiet people story, it was that really intense moment. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Well, that brings me to a small town. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Why would I live in a small town? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
In a way, it's more intense here than it ever was in New York, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
all the years I lived in New York. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
Because I get to know the people more deeply. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
I'm more involved with them. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
So there's an intensity of involvement, possible, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
within all the aspects of American culture in this little town | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
of Wilson than I ever had in New York. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
But why do you think LIFE was so obsessed with the small town, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
because, I mean, it was, you've got | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
so many small town stories in the magazine. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
LIFE was about the population at large. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
LIFE was not Vogue magazine. LIFE was not Conde Nast. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
And LIFE, because of its small town orientation, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
seemed to care about real people. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
So LIFE, because it was interested in the small town, cared... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
I feel like it did. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
And you could go into a small town as a LIFE photographer | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
and it would be like some TV star walking into town. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
I mean, you were a celebrity if you walked into town | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
and said you were from LIFE magazine back in those days and... | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
They would open the town up to you. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
And then it was your job to be respectful | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
and to treat it seriously, and to love it in your own way. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
Burk's been taking photographs for over four decades and I love | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
that he feels the small town reveals something wider about America. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
'At 23, he was the youngest photographer ever hired by LIFE.' | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
Pretty impressive. Then he went on to work at Magnum for 15 years. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
But, despite a career to die for, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
he feels he's making his best work today. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Well, Rankin, this is one of the floors of the studio. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
This is the small studio. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
This is the small one?! | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Oh, wow, that's wonderful. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
'Some of his recent work is closer to fine art, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
'but there's still echoes of LIFE in a lot of it. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
'And you can see him in every frame.' | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Why do you think you are still taking pictures? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Because a lot of the LIFE photographers, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
when it finished, they gave up... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
Went into real estate? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
Because the fact that you're still shooting | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and the work is incredible, is brilliant, and I wondered why? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
One of the first big conversations I ever had with a LIFE photographer | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
when I was 23 years old, there was a LIFE photographer in the bureau | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
by the name of Robert W Kelly who took me and says, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
"Burk, you're a young photographer, I want you to know the secret to being a LIFE photographer." | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
And I said, "What's that?" | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
And he says "You shoot every picture for the managing editor." | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
And I thought to myself, "You stupid shit, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
"you don't have a ball to call your own!" | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
I mean, if you're taking pictures for the fucking managing editor, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
you know, give it up right now! | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Because you've got nothing to stand on. There's no YOU there. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
There's no "there" there! | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
'Most photographers would have killed for a staff job at LIFE, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
'but Burk's not most photographers. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
'Always a free spirit, he turned down their offer | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
'and worked freelance, determined to keep his independence.' | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
There's some interesting LIFE stories in here. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
I'm going to have to do it down here. See, this is how LIFE worked. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
I wanted to do a story on growing up in North Carolina. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
This is Cousin Balgie, this is my wife's uncle. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
And this is her father's porch. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
The story you haven't heard is that, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
when they were doing the layout and the art director was | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Bernie Quint, and he made a layout and cropped out the dirt. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
-How could you do that? -That's the point of the picture! | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
And he kept saying, "Well, this is the way I feel it." | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
I said, "Well, you know what, you didn't fucking grow up there, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
"these are my pictures and you can't do that to my work, about my place!" | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
And he said, "I can so, I'm the art director," | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
and I said, "Well, I'll be damned if you can," | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
and I picked up a layout and I tore them up | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
and threw them on the floor and I picked up my colour transparencies | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
and I walked out of the room. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
What did they do? | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
Well, they had some serious talks about my future at LIFE magazine! | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
With the director of photography, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and he said, "You can't treat Bernie Quint that way," | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
and I said, "He can't treat my pictures that way!" | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Burk's work blows me away. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
It doesn't matter where he is, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
whether it's a sheep ranch in Wyoming | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
or a kitchen in Minnesota, he finds that intimate human thing, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
that moment where the subject actually reveals themselves. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
It's close, it's personal, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
and it's intimate. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
Then again, he wasn't always allowed | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
to get quite as intimate as he wanted. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
I was able to go live in Hugh Heffner's mansion, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
and stay for ever and ever and ever. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
What was that like? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Well, it made me horny, I tell you that! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
There was a lot of pretty poon-ta... a lot of stuff walking around! | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
And I was married at the time and my wife, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
I was living in New York, she said, "You're doing a story on Hefner, huh? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
"Well, where are you going to be staying?" | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
And I said, "Well, close," and she says, "Well, I'm coming to Chicago." | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
And she came out and she checked into a hotel right down the street | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
and so, I get, you know, I was able to reconvene with my wife | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
whenever I would come out of the mansion and that was a good thing. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
For someone like me, who's used to big city America, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
I didn't think places like this still existed. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Burk's invited me | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
to bring my camera to the weekly service at the Wilson Cowboy Church. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
Yes, you heard me. The Cowboy Church. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
# I am holden to the Lord | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
# I am holden to the Lord | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
# If I could I surely would | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
# Stand on the rock with Moses too... # | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
You've got this, the horse, the flag, the ruins of the building, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
there's a lot of things going on at once. And all the body language. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
It's just amazing. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
# Sinner run and hide your face | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
# Sinner run and hide your face... # | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Working alongside Burk, I realise the LIFE photographer | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
was constantly performing a balancing act | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
between joining the community and keeping enough distance to document it. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
Here at Cowboy Church, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
we think about horses and how things happen... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Some men from LIFE came, made a fuss, got the shot, and left. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
But those that got the best out of small town America, like Burk, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
made real connections. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
Jesus died on the cross in obedience to the Father.... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
And despite the modest subjects we're shooting, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
a bunch of horses, families, and a church service, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
the big themes of America are somehow revealed, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
patriotism, faith, nationhood, and community. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
# ..Stand on that rock | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
# Where Moses stood. # | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
It's been really great, actually, it's been really great. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
And I think Burk... | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
He's very interesting, I watched him all through the service | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
and he doesn't "partake" of the service. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
He's very stoic about the whole thing, which I kind of respect, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
because I'm very much of the same mind. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
I'm there to look and document, not to be involved. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
But I got a bit carried away with the parson, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
I liked him a lot. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
By 1956, LIFE was 20 years old, and coming of age. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
With a yearly profit of 17.5 million, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
the magazine was exceptionally wealthy. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
It was so successful that advertisers were falling over | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
themselves to buy more and more pages. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
All that money allowed LIFE's photographers to do weird and wonderful things. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
They devised a host of bizarre cameras to capture | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
the ever-advancing scale of man's achievements, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
from deep below the ocean surface, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
to miles up into the Earth's atmosphere, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
and even into outer space. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
LIFE pushed the boundaries of what could be photographed, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
creating world class, jaw dropping images | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
that shook the world at the time. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
But most importantly, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
the money enabled LIFE's photographers | 0:33:40 | 0:33:41 | |
to get closer to their subjects than ever before. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
'I've come to Connecticut to meet photographer Bill Eppridge.' | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
-Bill. -Hey. How are you? Good to see you. -Good to see you. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
'Bill's skill was stealth.' | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
-You got your camera there. -Always. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
Observing his subjects like an undercover agent, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
he often spent six months on a single story. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
It's this commitment to embedding with subjects | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
that was the breakthrough in getting to the truth...in pictures. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
Just a common, ordinary, everyday couple crossing the street. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
You go to the next spread... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
..and that's what they are. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
She came from a very fine family on Long Island. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
To make money to support her habit, she was a prostitute. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
He came from a very fine family in New Jersey. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
To make money, he stole, he boosted from cabs, he was a petty thief. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:43 | |
All for money for heroin. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
And I went and I lived with these people, virtually, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
for 22, 23 hours a day. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
And tried to be invisible. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
And that thing of embedding yourself, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
that was very particular to Life magazine. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
I mean, very few other magazines would have had | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
the chance to do a six-month story. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Yeah, it required time, but the magazine would give us the time. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
Embedding with two heroin addicts threw up all kinds of complications | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
and moral questions for the Life photographer. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Bill frequently found himself tangled up in lawbreaking, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
and sometimes life-or-death situations. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
My biggest problem at this point - knowing about it. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Do I call the police, do I photograph it? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
I mean, the guy could have died. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
It's a very big dilemma. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
It's like standing there watching somebody on fire, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
and you've got a bucket of water in one hand | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
and a camera in the other hand - what do you do? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
The heroin essay undoubtedly changed people's opinions of drug addicts. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
Even now, the images feel daring. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
There's no barrier between Bill and the couple. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
We see them as they really lived, as they really were. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
In 1968, he embedded with Senator Robert Kennedy | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
on his Presidential campaign. After victory in California, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
Bobby and his entourage came to the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
for what was meant to be a triumphant speech. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Bill was about to take a career-defining picture. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
One I know well. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
My thanks to all of you. Now, it's on to Chicago, and let's win there. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Bobby came off the stage, found us, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
and Bill Barry, who was the one bodyguard, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
said in very stern voice - | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and I know, I'm this far away from him, I'm there - | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
Barry said, "No, Senator, this way!" | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
And Bobby said, "No, Bill," | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
and just turned on his heel and walked back towards the kitchen. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
I saw people diving for cover, what I thought was diving for cover. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
They weren't. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
These were people directly in front of me who were being shot. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Everybody out, just please stay back. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Just the doctor, come right here. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
Is there a doctor in the house? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
We took a couple steps forward and came upon Bobby lying there. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
As I got to his feet, into a position, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:41 | |
the crowd just opened for a second, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
and there he was, and the busboy was still holding him, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
Juan Romero, still holding him, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
and I took one frame, it was totally out of focus. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:57 | |
The second frame I made, he's in focus, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:03 | |
but Juan Romero is looking down at him. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
The third frame, as quickly as I could make it, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Juan Romero looks up towards me | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
and there's this kind of look of "Help me" in his face. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:20 | |
I've never been able to hang that picture on the wall. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
-I can't. -You've never shown it? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
I've shown it, I've shown it, but not in my home. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
I cannot put it up, just because it brings back memories | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
that I don't want. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
That picture still terrifies me. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
And it... | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
I also think about what happened in this country afterwards, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
and what should not have happened, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
politically. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
I'm sorry I had to make it, but it had to be done. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Bill's image definitely captured a moment. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
Robert Kennedy's assassination stunned America. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Another irrational act to add to the anguish and conflict | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
that was dividing the country. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
Bill's picture said it all. Something precious had been lost. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
I've met a few Life photographers now, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
and it's clear that every one of these guys had a role to play | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
at key moments in American history. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
They were right there at the coalface, camera in hand. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
I don't feel dressed for the occasion, Bill. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Yeah, well, hey, the fish don't know! | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Just being in the company of guys like Bill has been | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
an education for me. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:54 | |
But LIFE photographers were like a school of artists, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
an exclusive club. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
And their clubhouse was the photographers' common room, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Room 2850. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
My first visit to that office, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
I was a...a junior in college, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
so that probably would have made me about...19. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
Wow. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
Was it amazing? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
It was. It was. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
That's when I started learning. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
And...I just did nothing else but learn, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
at that magazine. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Every one of those guys was a teacher, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
and I figure that's where I got my Masters degree, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
and maybe partway to a PhD. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
You walk in that office | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
and you just never knew | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
who was going to be there. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
I mean, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Eisenstaedt, you walk in, he'd be sitting there doing something, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Carl Mydans right next to him. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
I met Eugene Smith in there one day, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
once, I had the privilege of speaking to him, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
and it was in 2850. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
I heard he was a bit grumpy? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Oh, yeah. Yeah. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:12 | |
But hey, everybody's got to be something. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
LIFE was like a family, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
and Room 2850 was where the torch was passed. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Bill's generation saw dramatic changes, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
and the unravelling of a society | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
which LIFE had to some extent helped hold together. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
LIFE and its photographers | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
went to new and dangerous places. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
The biggest story in 1960s America | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
was happening halfway around the world. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
The war in Vietnam was tearing America apart. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
No war had been so vividly documented, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
so dramatically photographed as Vietnam, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
and the British photographer Larry Burrows | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
worked harder at it than most. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
You can't let yourself think. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
For nine years he returned time and time again | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
to record the events in that tragic conflict. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
To anyone but a photojournalist, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
that persistence must have seemed like an act of madness. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
Eventually, he met his death there, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
shot down in a helicopter in 1971. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
I've come to meet Russell Burrows, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
the son of LIFE's greatest war photographer. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
A lot of war photographers are seen as quite macho, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
but from what I've heard, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
your dad was almost the opposite of that. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Yes, he was not a dare-doing man. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
He was a mild-mannered man | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
who went to war. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
GUNFIRE, EXPLOSIONS | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
He talked about his experiences of war, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
but he'd never discuss the danger. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
It was no different going to Vietnam | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
or spending a night at the Victoria and Albert Museum, photographing. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
He prepares for war like a soldier preparing for battle. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
He's a veteran. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
During the last 20 years, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
he's covered Cyprus, Suez, the Congo, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
the Chinese-India conflict, and South Vietnam. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
There have been moments, yes, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
when your lips go dry, and you sort of reflect those, yes. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
I think anybody that does not, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
does not have any fear | 0:43:30 | 0:43:31 | |
is a complete idiot. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
And have you heard the rumours | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
that guys that were fighting saw him as a kind of lucky mascot? | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
Because he seemed to get away with, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
you know, not being shot. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:46 | |
Yes. For nine years in Vietnam, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
he went again and again to the front. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
He took chances that other people would consider, perhaps, ridiculous. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
But they were calculated risks. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
There was one particular story called One Ride With Yankee Papa 13, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
which involved 17 helicopters, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
four of which were shot down, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
and quite a lot of people were killed and wounded. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
And... | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
..we tried to rescue a pilot off a ship, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
and we were trapped between these two 30-calibre machine guns. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
The pilot was slumped over the controls. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
We could see him. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
Farley ran across, I ran after him. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
And visually, there were many... | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
The sound of gunfire and all that was happening, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
but trying to do it visually was extremely difficult. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It looked documentary. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
It was frustrating. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:47 | |
The co-pilot that had to climb onto our ship | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
had two bullet holes, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
one in the arm, one in the leg, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
and one we hadn't noticed, a third one | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
which was just under the armpit. | 0:44:58 | 0:44:59 | |
And he died. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
It was a very sad moment, a very touching moment, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
when our crew chief broke down and cried. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
And so often I wonder whether it is my right | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
to capitalise, as I feel so often, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
on the grief of others. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:12 | |
But then I justify in my own particular thoughts | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
by feeling that if I can contribute | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
a little to the understanding of what others are going through, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
there's a reason for doing it. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
There were letters of complaint | 0:45:34 | 0:45:35 | |
about the graphic nature of some of LIFE's war pictures, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
but the magazine held firm. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
John Shaw Billings, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:45 | |
its first Managing Editor, once said, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
"If free men refuse to look at dead bodies, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
"then brave men will have died in vain." | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
Back home, America was burning. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
A change was sweeping the nation as black America fought for equality. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
Just like Vietnam, LIFE's coverage of the Civil Rights Movement | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
was opinionated. And deliberately so. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
From black bus riders | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
who sat in the white seats in Mississippi | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
to heavy-handed police treatment in Alabama, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
the man from LIFE | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
wasn't dodging any punches. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
He was getting stuck into the biggest issue of the day. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
LIFE gave these stories such prominence, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
there was no way America could ignore them. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
The '60s saw unprecedented change, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
but was LIFE merely reporting it, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
or was it driving it? | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
To answer that question, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
I've come to the South Bronx | 0:46:46 | 0:46:47 | |
to meet one of its most fearless photographers, John Shearer. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
This has got energy, this area, right? | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
It's not like Manhattan. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
To look at John's work | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
you might think he was a combat photographer, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
but these photos aren't from a distant battlefield. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
They were taken in America's back yard. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
When riots broke out at Attica Prison, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
John chose to walk in with his cameras. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
He spent four days inside in a riot | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
where 41 men lost their lives. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
LOUDSPEAKER: We want to stop the slave labour here. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
So, we're in the Bronx. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
Has it changed much? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
You know, this street, it feels like I was here yesterday. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
It's really been able to hold on | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
to that wonderful character it had, you know? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Can you tell me the ways that you felt America was changing | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
when you started as a staffer at LIFE? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Well, America, you know, is exploding, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
I mean, I think I was lucky enough to live through the '60s, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
and to be a working photojournalist during the '60s. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
The world was really changing radically, and... | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
and I guess I was changing with it, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:16 | |
I was, my horizons were changing, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
and my, my views about things were changing. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Did you ever feel the issues around the Civil Rights Movement | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
affected you directly at all? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
Oh, no question about it. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
I mean, there was a greater need for Black voices, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Blacks to help tell that story, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
and I covered Selma, Birmingham | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
and went to Jackson, Mississippi, to cover the Klan and other stories. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
That was my beat, you know. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
And, you know, to me, certainly in terms of covering things, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
that was more important to me than covering like a Vietnam, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
cos that was our story, you know. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
And so, when I had the chance, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
I said, "No, I'll stay, I want to stay and cover this." | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
I keep asking you this, but you weren't scared for your life at all? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
I didn't think about it. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:00 | |
I really didn't think about it. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
It was about the pictures, you know. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
-And you know how that is. -Yeah... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
Yeah... I'm saying yes, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
but the bravest I get is turning the air conditioning off in my studio. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
But I'm here in the middle of the South Bronx, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
and there's a good reason for that. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
John's brought me here | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
because this was the site of another of his reportage missions. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
In 1972 he embedded for six weeks with a street gang | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
known as The Reapers. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
Now this has all changed. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
This is where we shot the gang meeting picture. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
I think Eddie stood on those steps over there, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
the steps on the right, and he would talk to all the fellas. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
But they were deciding that night | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
if they were going to go to war on another gang. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
One of the things you learned over the years | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
is you always had a little bottle of vinegar with cotton in it, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
in your shirt pocket. So that way, if you were ever in a situation | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
where there was tear gas or any of that kind of stuff, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
you could stick that cotton in your nose to keep your eyes clear. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
And those were all the little things | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
that you always had going on, you know. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
Also, you know, you tended to | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
always dump your film, as you went along, through the day, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
so if you got into a jam, you know, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
you wouldn't have to worry about losing all the day's work, you know. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
So there was a couple of delis | 0:50:41 | 0:50:42 | |
and other places I would typically stash my stuff | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
-during the course of the day. -Wow. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
-So I didn't have a lot of it on me. -That's so brilliant. -Yeah. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
John's an incredible guy, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
dedicated and totally fearless. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
I'm amazed the freedom he had | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
to go out on his own and bring back the story. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
His "beat", as he modestly described it, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
were the big stories of the late 1960s. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
But LIFE's frontline coverage of Civil Rights | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
and Vietnam seems to me a last gasp of campaigning photojournalism. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
By the early 1970s, a new national obsession was taking hold. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
One I know intimately - celebrity. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
So long the champion of making the ordinary extraordinary, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
LIFE needed to feed this appetite. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
Despite publishing portraits of America's great and good since its earliest days, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
celebrity culture put the magazine under pressure. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
LIFE needed a different kind of photographer. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
A pushy, hungry, talent to get to the stars. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
Glaswegian Harry Benson was their man. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
-Hello. -Oh, Mr Rankin. Very nice to meet you. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
-Nice to meet you. Who's this? -This is my son, Oscar. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Very nice to meet you, yes. -I'm a big fan. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
This enticing picture of Greta Garbo | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
is a classic Benson celebrity portrait. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
It's a kind of hybrid shot. Reportage with a hint of paparazzi. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
How did you take these? Did you hide for these? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
-No, I was on a boat. -On a boat? -A kind of hiding. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
But I didn't mess up her holiday by chasing her. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
-Yeah. You just did one? -Well, maybe more than one. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
Harry's treatment of Greta Garbo was a sign of things to come. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
As public figures began to put barriers up, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
photographers needed to devise ways to overcome them. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
Well, I mean, my background was completely different, Rankin. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:46 | |
I came from Fleet Street. London Daily Express. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
It was competitive. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
And it was fun. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:53 | |
When I came to America | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
and...and I started working for LIFE, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
LIFE was a dude ranch. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
You know, fancy. Limousines. You know. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
I was hungry. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Still hungry. You're still hungry now! | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
Yeah, I was hungry. I was hungry... | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
That's why I would go and do any job. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
You're just like a rat, you're looking for ways to... | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
-Capture something? -To capture, if you have your wits about you. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
To get your morsels, right? | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
-And if you work hard, you're inclined to get lucky. -Yeah. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
I think you're incredibly humble about it, I have to say, Harry. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
Because I think that, number one, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
you've got a fantastic eye. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
And number two, you know, yes, I agree with you, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
hard work gets you in those places, but to get that close to people | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
and to be able to capture those images is very... | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
is very much a talent. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:47 | |
When there is an opportunity, the door opens slightly. It's... | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
You ram your way through it? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:54 | |
Yeah, just like a rat. Or a nasty dog coming to you. | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
Harry's determination to get the picture | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
meant he got some amazing portraits of famous, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
often very elusive people. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
And that's how LIFE used him. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
If they had a tough subject, send in Benson. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
They didn't come much tougher than chess genius Bobby Fischer. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
Considered by many to be the most gifted player of all time, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
he was just as famous for being a cantankerous grump. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
Bobby Fischer, everyone knew he was a piece of shit. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
He was terrible. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:32 | |
-A nightmare to deal with? -Absolutely! | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
But then it's a challenge. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
It was worth fighting for, to get as close as you can. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
And get out. My idea has always been get in, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
get as close as you can and get out. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
I don't want to become friends with these people. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
None of them. I don't... | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
I...I don't care. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
I mean, if I finish a job and they ask me for dinner, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
and that happens often, I never go. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
I don't want... | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
the individual to say to me, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
"Harry, that picture of me in the bubble bath, please don't use it." | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
Bang goes my best picture because of my new best friend. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Who isn't my best friend! It's somebody I've photographed. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
You know? | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
Never. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
No matter how difficult somebody is, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
at one time, the story will soften on you, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:29 | |
and you've got to be ready for this. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
This is your road in. And it'll happen on every story. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
There is a moment where you can take advantage, you can do your job. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
Because that's all I'm talking about is being able to do your job. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:47 | |
That's what President Nixon said when he let me into San Clemente | 0:55:48 | 0:55:54 | |
after he got thrown out of office. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
I said, "I want to thank you, Mr President, I know this isn't | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
"the best time in your life," and he said, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
"Harry, you must allow professional people to do their job." | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
Nixon, Johnson, Reagan. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
In fact I've photographed every American president since Eisenhower. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
-I'm showing off now. -That's good, I like that. -I'm showing off to everybody! | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
I can see why Harry continued to be such a success | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
when photojournalism changed through the '70s and '80s. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
He's a scrapper. Even now, aged 81, he's still got his edge. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
The cult of celebrity marked a new era. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
But the demise of LIFE. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
Since 1936, LIFE had held America's hand through its greatest decades, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
witnessing its first steps as a superpower | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
and the great blossoming that followed. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
LIFE's most powerful voices, its photographers, | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
had championed America's greatest achievements. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
But certainly weren't afraid to reflect its darker, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
more painful divisions, too. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
But the window on the world the men from LIFE created had splintered. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:16 | |
TV was king now. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:17 | |
And people's desire to create their own window on the world had begun. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
So, in December 1972, the magazine closed. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:26 | |
And many its photographers hung up their cameras for good. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
When I came here I wondered what it took to be "the man from LIFE". | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
Meeting the guys I have, I realise that I could never have been one. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
I'm just not brave enough. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
What I discovered is they're all incredible human beings first, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
and photographers second. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
Luckily for us, they chose the camera to tell us who they were, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
and how they saw their world. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
So, here I've got the last issue, and the first issue of LIFE, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
and I guess it's kind of fitting that for the last issue of LIFE | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
they decided not to put a photograph on the cover. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
It's all text. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
In a way, it kind of like... | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
it sums up the fact that it was over | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
for the photographic magazine | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
that had been so successful from the 30s onwards. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
-# That's life -That's life | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
# That's what all the people say | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
# You're riding high in April, shot down in May... # | 0:58:22 | 0:58:27 | |
All of those fantastic photographs that showed us a window | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
into what America was like, it's rise and development, | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
we wouldn't have them. And that's why LIFE's amazing. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 | |
-# ..I said, that's life -That's life... # | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
LIFE had a place in American homes, hearts and minds | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
that I just hadn't understood before I came here. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:51 | |
I don't think there's ever been a magazine that has had such a strong bond with its readers. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:56 | |
And what a role LIFE played. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:59 | |
Sometimes guardian, sometimes magician | 0:58:59 | 0:59:01 | |
and always, I think, a kind of teacher. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:04 | |
Whatever LIFE set out to say, its language was always photography. | 0:59:04 | 0:59:08 | |
And its lesson? | 0:59:08 | 0:59:10 | |
To teach America how to be American. | 0:59:10 | 0:59:13 | |
Yee-ha! | 0:59:13 | 0:59:15 | |
-# ..That's life -That's life | 0:59:15 | 0:59:18 | |
# And I can't deny it | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
# Many times I thought of cutting out but my heart won't buy it | 0:59:21 | 0:59:27 | |
# But if there's nothin' shaken come this here July | 0:59:27 | 0:59:33 | |
# I'm gonna roll myself up | 0:59:35 | 0:59:38 | |
# In a big ball | 0:59:38 | 0:59:41 | |
# A-a-a-nd die | 0:59:41 | 0:59:49 | |
# My, my. # | 0:59:49 | 0:59:53 | |
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