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This is Salford Quays, the brand new home of BBC North. Much of the | 0:00:00 | 0:00:07 | |
day, Blue Peter, 5 Live, they are all coming here. Coronation Street | 0:00:07 | 0:00:17 | |
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has moved in just around the corner. Some of the very best of British TV | 0:00:17 | 0:00:27 | |
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has been made up here, up north. I'll be looking back at some of the | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
great TV shows which have been made in the North West and finding out | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
what it is about this part of the world that's created some of the | 0:00:41 | 0:00:51 | |
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MUSIC. One of my favourite TV shows and I | 0:01:14 | 0:01:21 | |
was a kid was top of the Pops. I loved the music, and the dancing. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
With the first three years, the show was broadcast from a converted | 0:01:26 | 0:01:36 | |
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You yes, it's number one, its top of the Pops! Top of the Pops was | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
launched on New Year's Day, 1964, by none other than the King of Pop | 0:01:43 | 0:01:53 | |
at the time, Jimmy Savile. It was live, black and white TV. The first | 0:01:53 | 0:02:02 | |
group was the Rolling Stones. It was tremendous. The Beatles and the | 0:02:02 | 0:02:08 | |
Rolling Stones a new year's Day! So when they have all been at Marianne | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Faithfull's penthouse flat doing God knows what the night before, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:20 | |
they have to get chance to Manchester. They were the biggest | 0:02:20 | 0:02:28 | |
pop groups in the world, you know. They decided to pit top of the Pops | 0:02:28 | 0:02:36 | |
in Manchester because they couldn't bear it in London. London was very | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
posh. Anything that they didn't want to do in London they brought | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
up to the old church in Manchester. They didn't want anything to do | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
with pop music, so that was our place. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:58 | |
The Supremes even made their world television debut on the programme. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
There was no problem getting artists to come. Top Of the Pops | 0:03:03 | 0:03:13 | |
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was the number one pop show in the Jimmy Savile was so different. We | 0:03:17 | 0:03:25 | |
had a different foyers. His total presentation was, well I was going | 0:03:25 | 0:03:31 | |
to say not normal, but that sounds unkind. He was such a character. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:39 | |
have got the blues in the morning, I have the greens at night! Nobody | 0:03:39 | 0:03:49 | |
ever utter rot kick - - a rock gig has ever looked like Jimmy Savile! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
At least you realise that the kids wanted to do something else. By the | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
end of 1967, the show was so successful it had outgrown the old | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
church and was moved to London. Yes, 80 million viewers across | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Europe would tune in every week to watch the European version of the | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
show. Everybody that comes up to the north is affected by the North | 0:04:06 | 0:04:15 | |
and Northern people. It was a magic mix. The North and Top Of The Pops | 0:04:15 | 0:04:24 | |
was a magic mix. This is what I have been looking | 0:04:24 | 0:04:34 | |
for. It's a knockout, unforgettable Saturday night television. Stuart | 0:04:34 | 0:04:44 | |
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Hall, Eddie Waring, the ridiculous costumes. You could not be tipped. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:56 | |
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It was absolute genius. Everybody had to make a date with It's a | 0:05:01 | 0:05:11 | |
knockout. It was just a seminal programme of our time. All these | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
people dressed up, not just in a costume, but characters that would | 0:05:16 | 0:05:26 | |
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It is Stuart Hall's unbridled enthusiasm for everything that he | 0:05:38 | 0:05:45 | |
dos. You very rarely here at grown man nearly wetting himself these | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
days and the television. It still works. When you hear it, you can | 0:05:50 | 0:06:00 | |
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help yourself. He is really having We had 80 million viewers every | 0:06:06 | 0:06:16 | |
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Yes, 80 million viewers across Europe would tune in to watch the | 0:06:22 | 0:06:32 | |
European version of the show. Penguin game, which is shown on the | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
YouTube non-stop, featuring the eight penguins collecting water on | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
a carousel. Simple. Why it works is that everyone is taking this | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
incredibly seriously. You know those men in those penguin suits | 0:06:49 | 0:06:58 | |
and their assistants, national pride is at work here. So, that is | 0:06:58 | 0:07:07 | |
what makes it so touching and so funny. Now, ducky and dustbin man | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
from Skegness was our Penguin. He gave me some of the best fun. He | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
completely destroyed it. Wendy speeded up the carousel, he went | 0:07:16 | 0:07:26 | |
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quicker. He took out the German, At the same time as doing it so | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
But at the same time as doing It's A Knockout, Stuart Hall was also | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
presenting the regional evening news programme, Look North, and | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
doing so in his own unique style. The world was then full of | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
journalists. We used to pray things would go wrong. Please, let it all | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
breakdown. I am a breakdown merchant. It was the same with | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
everything I have done. I pray for things to breakdown so you can | 0:08:10 | 0:08:17 | |
escape the stranglehold of the regimen of television. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
In 1972 the BBC decided to build new studios on Oxford Road, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
Manchester. The move to New Broadcasting House was seen at the | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
time as a commitment by the BBC to making top quality programmes from | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
the North West. Over the following years a host of shows were | 0:08:34 | 0:08:40 | |
broadcast from the new studios, including Look North. And now it's | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
North West Tonight, which is still serving up a mix of news, sport and | 0:08:44 | 0:08:50 | |
entertainment for viewers in the region. We have had lots of showbiz | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
and celebrities, so many people, all the comedians. My favourite | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
comedian a volleys Peter Kay, he just makes the tears rolled down my | 0:09:01 | 0:09:07 | |
cheeks. On one particular occasion he decided to leave the sofa when | 0:09:07 | 0:09:17 | |
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Diane was presenting the weather. The top temperature of B27. There | 0:09:21 | 0:09:30 | |
will be no arctic roll left them as they! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
The one person who could handle that would be damned. She kept him | 0:09:35 | 0:09:45 | |
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under control. My name is Paul caff, support man | 0:09:48 | 0:09:58 | |
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City, like drinking. I could fight, punch up. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:06 | |
I think you should wear a mask. I don't like looking at your face. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
There has been no shortage of laughter from appeared. Some of the | 0:10:10 | 0:10:18 | |
best-loved comedians are from this part of the world. Did you know | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Caroline and her and just to be a secretary in the offices of BBC | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Manchester? Luckily enough, she discovered she had a few hidden | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
talents. Mrs Merton's sharp wit and special | 0:10:30 | 0:10:38 | |
blend of northern humour were a smash hit with audiences. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
genius of it is making a rather pleasant old lady. It disarms | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
everyone straight away. Every woman's dream is to marry Paul | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Daniels. This dream came true for Debbie McGee. She will be popping | 0:10:52 | 0:10:59 | |
up litter. Debbie McGee was on the very first show. All I knew was | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
that it was some sort of comedy chat show. Her first question was... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:14 | |
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what first attracted you to the Malik... what attracted you to the | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
millionaire Paul Daniels? That Cuba, because you much can be used as a | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
weapon, you feel that in Manchester and Liverpool. Anyone who is | 0:11:38 | 0:11:44 | |
getting a little bits above themselves. Debbie McGee is | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
disarmed by it, so she can do object. That is a stroke of genius. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Caroline Aherne is brilliant that it because she plays the old lady | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
with real sweetness and naughtiness as well. Say you wake up at night | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
and you're in your bed and you just pick your hand out to stroke Paul's | 0:12:03 | 0:12:10 | |
head and he is not there, do you look up and he is at the end of the | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
bed pulling doves out that is the jammers. Do you find that happens? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
I did not feel uncomfortable for a minute. I laughed from beginning to | 0:12:20 | 0:12:27 | |
end. I laughs Attar other shows afterwards. And I thought she was | 0:12:27 | 0:12:37 | |
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hysterical. My experience of it was In 1998 Caroline Aherne returned to | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
our screens in The Royle Family, this time along side co-writer | 0:12:41 | 0:12:50 | |
Craig Cash. That programme is genius, I think. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
Very funny but very moving. Particularly this sequence where | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
Barbara is doing her mother's hair and they are singing to each other. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
That is not just comedy, as some of the greatest drama you will ever | 0:13:04 | 0:13:14 | |
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see. Barbara? Yes. Could you get on what my toenails next. Yeah. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:26 | |
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Barbara? Yet. Barbara, thank you. Thank you, Barbara. What for? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:38 | |
Everything. What it is is a celebration of the ties that bind | 0:13:38 | 0:13:45 | |
in North West families. It is a family under the microscope. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:55 | |
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Some of the most original and artistic he shows of the last | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
couple of decades have come out of this place. And some of them have | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
revolutionised the way television is made. In 1987, Janet Street- | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
Porter became head of youth and entertainment at the BBC in | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
Manchester. When I arrived at the BBC I could see that using the | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
offices in Manchester as a base, instead of being in a studio with | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
reporters popping up and sitting behind desks, the people that made | 0:14:55 | 0:15:02 | |
the programme would be part of the programme. We want to know what you | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
think about rescue out reach. could see the office. It was all | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
part of the same thing and they would tell you how the story was | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
going and how they have put it together. Local authorities or | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
private companies want to keep an eye on us. And it can be used as | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
evidence against you. We tackled subject that had not been done | 0:15:24 | 0:15:30 | |
before, like the rising number of CCTV cameras that seem to be | 0:15:30 | 0:15:40 | |
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The programme I am most proud of that I made in Manchester was rough | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
guide. Before that, travel shows had been so drab. Judith Chalmers | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
standing on the beach. It was always about beaches and hotel | 0:15:56 | 0:16:04 | |
rooms and it was never about what the locals were up to. This is a | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
tiny fashion fashion up affairs it off the water off the peg, and what | 0:16:08 | 0:16:17 | |
better way to do that, than D I Y? Down the corridor The Travel Show | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
was also doing things differently, but for a more mainstream audience. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I think what set the travel sure apart from other programmes around | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
that that time was, we were given the brief to tell it as it is. So | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
we would be sent to a particular location and we have to tell the | 0:16:33 | 0:16:40 | |
viewers what it was that we found. Anyone of any shape or size is | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
supposed to be able to get through this hole. It is an interesting | 0:16:46 | 0:16:55 | |
front door. We went to a shrine, and I had to squeeze through this | 0:16:55 | 0:17:05 | |
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tiny little whole. Hurrah! Once you get through this hole, you are | 0:17:07 | 0:17:13 | |
supposed to be cleansed of your sins, but if you are very bad, you | 0:17:13 | 0:17:21 | |
will come in clean but go out dirty. We had all the problems of going | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
into this chamber and trying to get out again. I am not sure if my sins | 0:17:26 | 0:17:33 | |
were claims. I would leave that to everyone else to decide. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Manchester is home to some of the most popular long-running | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
entertainment programmes on tv. three of us see that when we come | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
to work to do A Question Of Sport, it feels like a hobby, not a job, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
it is something we thoroughly enjoyed. For me it is the best | 0:17:48 | 0:17:55 | |
thing that I do on TV. For me, growing up it was something we | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
always watched on the telly and when I was asked to come on it as a | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
player, it was a rubber stamp that you have done quite well in your | 0:18:03 | 0:18:09 | |
sport. I was very proud the first time I appeared as a guest. I wrote | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
to Jim'll Fix It when I was eight years old to say, please could I go | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
on Question of Sport. I would lie on the carpet in front of my dad, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:24 | |
and try to thrash him at a A Question Of Sport. You had Princess | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
and sitting next to you as a team captain. I cannot imagine having | 0:18:29 | 0:18:37 | |
Princess and sitting next to me. It just would not happen now. I can | 0:18:37 | 0:18:44 | |
see that you are the right captain! The appeal of Question of Sport is | 0:18:44 | 0:18:50 | |
the interplay. You have been practising all week with your arms | 0:18:50 | 0:18:57 | |
folded... It was very English, a A Question Of Sport, quite self- | 0:18:57 | 0:19:03 | |
deprecating and not taking itself too seriously. Mastermind has been | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
put in its contenders to the test since 1962. The thing about | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
Mastermind is, it is intelligent. It does not make any concessions. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
It does not assume that the general public are as thick as two short | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
planks because they are not. would sit down with my mother and | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
watch Mastermind. We think she wanted to find out if I was | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
learning anything at school. That dramatic music... In the spotlight | 0:19:31 | 0:19:39 | |
after night is the strictly dancer, Darren Bennett, whose subject is | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
science fiction films that became a force to be reckoned with. Stuart | 0:19:42 | 0:19:50 | |
Maconie takes on a century of works by Britain's greatest pause. | 0:19:50 | 0:20:00 | |
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poets. It is exhilarating and frightening at the same time. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
poem contains the line they shall not grow old as we that are left | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
grow old. The fallen. I would watch them coming out with their eyes | 0:20:13 | 0:20:20 | |
fixed on the black cheers and however experienced at quizzes they | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
are, how clever they are, everyone is scared by the time they accept | 0:20:25 | 0:20:33 | |
down in that chair. Why would anybody want this? But when it | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
comes to fear factor there's nothing more terrifying than facing | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
the Dragons in their famous Den. When you see individuals coming up | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
those stairs, you can sometimes physically see them shake, almost | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
see their nervousness, then you get in a conversation and when you see | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
that the individual has got it, you know that they have got that spirit | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
and bribe of one entrepreneur, coupled with a great product and | 0:20:56 | 0:21:05 | |
you think, now, I am starting to shake, I am getting excited. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
some ready source in your life. Levi groups excited the Dragons | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
when he pitched. It does not get better than that. �25,000 from me | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
and from another dragon and years later, he is a multi-millionaire. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:32 | |
Every now and then the show throws up some disastrous pictures, like | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
the chair there is a multi-gym. What made it more hilarious was | 0:21:38 | 0:21:47 | |
that Duncan, being an expert up on gyms, he went up and try to use | 0:21:47 | 0:21:53 | |
these things and I cried my eyes out. It was hilarious. You are like | 0:21:53 | 0:22:01 | |
two old codgers! Trying to get fit! Duncan was out of breath, giggling | 0:22:01 | 0:22:11 | |
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This year, songs of Praise is celebrating its 50th anniversary. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Aled Jones was already famous for his angelic voice when he first | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
appeared on it as a choirboy. But his singing was not always | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
appreciated when he joined in when watching the show at home. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Sometimes I was told off for singing too loudly and spoiling it | 0:22:36 | 0:22:42 | |
for my grandmother. And then he presented songs of praise from his | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
home city in Wales. Welcome to Banda, the oldest diocese in | 0:22:47 | 0:22:57 | |
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Britain. -- Bangor. I was petrified going back because I knew all the | 0:22:57 | 0:23:04 | |
people in the Commons -- congregation. The kids there would | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
have been doing this, and I would have to say, the next 10 is, and we | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
would have to do it about 13 times. We're doing a hen that celebrates | 0:23:15 | 0:23:25 | |
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all the scenes of Wales, sung to this familiar Welsh tune. -- hymn. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:32 | |
I would say that half of the people watching it do not go to church, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
but when they might start launching into pens, it starts them going | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
back to school assemblies and a happy, comfortable time in their | 0:23:39 | 0:23:47 | |
lives. He was happy when the show was featured on the the vicar of | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
the Glee. I have had a letter from the BBC who want to film songs of | 0:23:51 | 0:23:57 | |
Praise. Heavens preserve us. I like the thought that they thought it | 0:23:57 | 0:24:07 | |
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was going to be Tom Jones, when it was Aled Jones. This is not the | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
first drama to be filmed in these studios. Life On Mars was filmed | 0:24:23 | 0:24:29 | |
here, too. There has been a stabbing. Queenie the road. Uniform | 0:24:29 | 0:24:39 | |
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is already on the scene. -- Queen Mary Road. Life On Mars re created | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
1970s Manchester with scenes from all over the city and in the Oxford | 0:24:43 | 0:24:53 | |
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Life On Mars, women should have given your role in it. It is 1973, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:16 | |
almost banal time. Fantastic performances. Great drama. Every | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
corner has to be whiter than white or the entire thing falls apart. -- | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
every corporate. And the north-west is home to some of the best drama | 0:25:26 | 0:25:34 | |
writers in the UK. Paul Abbott, Alan Bleasdale and Jimmy McGovern, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:40 | |
to name but a few. Glaswegian, about 45 years old. Billy Rafferty. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:47 | |
He is dead. There is a great love of language in and around | 0:25:47 | 0:25:55 | |
Manchester and Liverpool pubs. A great jury in language and in story | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
telling. In conversation, in the sense of a community, and I think | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
writers have packed into that, and brought it to a national audience. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:13 | |
What is your name? And it is this love of language and story telling | 0:26:13 | 0:26:23 | |
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that Jimmy McGovern has used to such dramatic effect in The Street. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
I cannot even look after myself, never mind someone like you. What | 0:26:30 | 0:26:36 | |
is great about the Street, you feel that the writer listens to how | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
people actually speak and we know that in Manchester and Liverpool | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
there is a joy in language that is very idiosyncratic. And Jimmy | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
McGovern has a very acute ear for the way that people in the north- | 0:26:48 | 0:26:58 | |
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west talk and thing. -- think. Gissa Job! Oh over the years the | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
north-west has produced some of the very best television drama. Am I | 0:27:10 | 0:27:20 | |
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right? I am I right! You should never change... Nice, what are you | 0:27:21 | 0:27:31 | |
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doing up here? Business or pleasure? Come on, Jack, let's be | 0:27:35 | 0:27:42 | |
naughty. I know that you wanted. The BBC has come along way from the | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
days of studios in converted churches. It is starting a new | 0:27:45 | 0:27:52 | |
chapter at Media City are, on a bigger scale than ever before, and | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
here is a taste of what is to come. I don't know what you drink up in | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
Manchester but there seems to be something in the water, that little | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
spark of creativity, so I am not surprised that BBC Manchester has | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
been so successful. This move is enormously important, for the | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
message that it sends out which is that Britain does not begin and end | 0:28:18 | 0:28:24 |