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'I always remember the first time I saw some contemporary dance. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
'I was about 12 or 13 and it was a truly visceral experience.' | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Two very dominant forms - music and movement, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and somehow the combined effect greater than the sum of their parts. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
AMBIENT MUSIC | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Down the years, I've seen various other pieces of contemporary dance. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
I've occasionally conducted music to movement, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
but I've never had an opportunity to sit down and understand the form, get right inside it. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
This is my chance to do just that. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
AMBIENT DANCE MUSIC | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Be still. Really still, Charles. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Do you ever do that at the bus stop? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
On my way to work(!) | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
LIVELY BALLET MUSIC | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Ballet dominated the dance world until the beginning of the 20th century | 0:01:19 | 0:01:25 | |
when revolutionary figures like Isadora Duncan, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Nijinsky, Martha Graham, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Kurt Jooss | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
and Pina Bausch challenged its supremacy. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
But it wasn't until 1967 that the first School of Contemporary Dance opened in the UK. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:45 | |
This is The Place. It is the home of both the London Contemporary Dance Theatre | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
and the London Contemporary Dance School. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
It's the only school of its kind in Europe and it's a very exciting place to work in. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
Since then, contemporary dance has constantly evolved, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
taking inspiration from other arts, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
breaking out of traditional venues | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
and bringing marginal forms main stage. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
So anything goes now. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Or does it? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
This year's Place Prize for Dance winners, Lost Dog, had critics up in arms, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
claiming their entry was more theatre than dance. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Where were the steps? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
People who saw it were surprised by the fact that they were dancers | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
or some thought they were actors or physical performers, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
even though their skill is very obvious, but it's still this thing of like, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
"Is that dance or is that theatre?" | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
But for us, it's not such an important distinction. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
It's just this thing of we were interested in creating work that is physical, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
but we enjoy the use of narrative. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
LIVELY JAZZ MUSIC | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
It's not trying to do the same thing as everything else, so for people to want it | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
to do whatever they think dance should do is a bit frustrating. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
If you can get beyond any sense of personal wounding, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
it's quite exciting to create work that really does divide people. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -Most live performance, particularly dance, is asking you to be involved with that creative act | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
which can be thrilling, but it can also be difficult for some people. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
JAZZ PIANO MUSIC | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
So what are we talking about? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
It's definitely not ballet. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Classical ballet, according to the dictionary definition, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
is a precise form with highly formalised set steps and gestures | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and, let's face it, the weight of history around it. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Ultimately, I guess, it's really about beauty and aesthetics, so how do we define contemporary dance? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
I don't know. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
I think us as artists, we're constantly making work to answer that question. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
I think it's a journey. I don't think it's a destination. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
But I think it is something which explores the stage and using movement. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
At the moment, contemporary dance is simply an umbrella term | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
to cover dance in our time. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
And I suppose the only clear definition | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
is that it's separating itself | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
from the classical ballet which is, if you like, a very clearly defined world, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
but the walls between those two worlds are definitely tumbling down. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
MELLOW JAZZ MUSIC | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
It's a passion, it's a freedom. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
It's a love. It's a way of expressing sometimes what can't be said in words or... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:07 | |
..if it could be said in words, it would take an encyclopedia to say it. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
It aims to heighten our perceptions | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
and our understanding of reality, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
but it's about today, it's relevant to the world we live in. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
TECHNO BEATS | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Contemporary dance doesn't have rules. It's very exciting. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
In the studio you feel like a rebel because it's not classical ballet | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
that you know exactly what type of movements you'll see, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
what kind of music, you don't know. It's like going underground. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
It's like trying to define music. It's many things at once. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
It's a constantly evolving art form, re-inventing and re-defining itself. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
The best way to understand it is to go and see as many things as you can | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
and then you begin to get a sense of what it can begin to encompass. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
I'm at The Place, home to the Richard Alston Dance Company. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
40 years ago, Richard was one of the first dancers to train here. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
I was surprised because I thought his aesthetic would be much less balletic, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
but what overjoyed me was this symbiotic relationship between the movement and the music. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
I started with Merce Cunningham who was a very clear trainer and a wonderful teacher. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
But my work is about movement and music together | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
and Merce's work specifically was not. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
GENTLE PIANO MUSIC | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
Merce Cunningham and John Cage decided to separate the two | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
and make them independent. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Every audience puts them together. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Everyone always thinks that the dancers are moving to whatever sounds are going on | 0:07:10 | 0:07:16 | |
and his movement, although incredibly clear, was designed | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
to be put together by chance methods which is what he believed in, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
which meant that any movement could follow any other movement. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
RUSTLING SOUND | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I'm more interested and have always been more attracted by a flowing language. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:44 | |
And therefore, classical ballet is the most sophisticated, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
flowing language with small transitional steps | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
leading to big climax steps and so on. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
I find the marriage of the two a really interesting world for me to explore. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
I think of dance as sculpture, I think of dance as architecture. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
It moves in space. I think of dance definitely as a form of music. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
It's one of the things that gives me particular satisfaction | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
when an audience member says to me, "When I look at your dance, I hear more in the music." | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
What they don't say, but I also believe is true | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
is if I've made the dance properly, the music helps them see more in the dance. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
UP-TEMPO MUSIC FROM "Overdrive" | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
I guess I fell in love is the truth. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
I just fell in love with dancers and I've always been in love with dancers. I'm a bit of a groupie. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
And it's never left me, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
this love of human beings working so hard to move | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
and to make something that is, I find, incredibly uplifting. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
DRAMATIC PIANO MUSIC | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
I fell in love with music, but I've always wondered how a dancer relates to it. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
I've thought of an experiment. I've got a few people here who are going to help me. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
If I played you a piece of music which hopefully you are not familiar with and haven't danced to before, | 0:09:54 | 0:10:01 | |
just to see what spontaneously it makes you do... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
I'm playing a D Major Prelude by JS Bach on a very knackered piano | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
and what's amazing is you've got this 300-year-old piece of music | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
and it's inspiring contemporary, improvised dance. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
The music had quite a rhythmical, lyrical flow which was this kind of movement, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
then there were these accents and little things to highlight. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-It's also about making choices. -Yeah. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
You know, you could read that piece as quite sorrowful | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
or as I felt you read it... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
kind of glad to be alive in a way. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Sometimes when you're improvising, you can go through 15 different stories | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
and that will make you move different to that piece of music. That's what I do personally. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
Maybe the movement is quite joyful, but your intention behind it can be quite sorrowful. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
It's like The Dying Swan. It's still moving a lot and beautiful, but it's a sad, mournful thing. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
Sometimes without going outside the music, you can just stay still | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
or experience feeling the music and still be in it, and then start again. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
Wow! Let's do that piece of music again. I want you to approach it completely differently. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:42 | |
MUSIC RESUMES: "Prelude in D Major" - JS Bach | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Two basically different stories told in the space of five minutes - remarkable fluidity and ease | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
because who is to say a piece of music only has one message? | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
It has an infinite number and dance can really show that. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
I thought perhaps in my prejudiced way in the past | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
that on occasion, dance was something which used music as a carpet on which to tread, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:26 | |
something to trample over. The reverse could not be more the case. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
This is supposed to be Superboy and Girl... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
'Mark Baldwin, the Artistic Director of Rambert Dance Company, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
'has commissioned composer Stephen McNeff to adapt Ravel's music for L'Enfant Et Les Sortileges | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
'for his work Seven For A Secret, Never To Be Told. I've come here to see how he works with the music.' | 0:12:51 | 0:12:58 | |
What I'm looking for is all the mystery and gorgeousness in these little black things. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
The idea that you work with a composer and you build something together is fantastic. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
You're looking for something which is not predictable, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
so you're looking for something which gives you what the composer's given you. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
You're looking for bits that you can point out to the audience and you're looking for a relationship. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
It may not be that you're holding hands. You could be hugging or you're looking at each other. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:32 | |
-It can speak volumes. -Absolutely. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
The music wants to go like this, so something inside you tells you to go like this, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
but then he doesn't want that. He wants speed. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
To me, it sounds like it's going like this. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Yeah. It's a long line, yeah. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
GENTLE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Yes, I'm looking for some kind of visualisation, if you like, of what I hear, which is quite eccentric. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:13 | |
UP-TEMPO MUSIC | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
'The dancers are portraying children. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
'Having studied his friend's seven-year-old at play, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
'how does Mark get his ideas across to the dancers?' | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Talk me through your process. You listen to this music and you start to move to it, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-you start to find a language. -I warm up to it. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-That's how it goes. -Yeah. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
-As we jump. -So with me doing it, it would look something... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
It would look something like that, which is quite different, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
but that gives me an idea of what I could ask him to do. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
DRAMATIC MUSIC | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
And also I know that I'm going to skip round the room, then jump over this way | 0:14:57 | 0:15:03 | |
and there's something over there, there's a grasshopper. It's that kind of mad, mental, physical thing. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
You say it's different, but it's very close. You've drawn so much from that whole demeanour. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
What Mark's done is he has really completely inhabited the story, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
so when he does it, it's completely there. We're still trying to do the movements and make them look good. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
And we try and usually make it bigger, so we get a chance to dance a bit. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
So at what point does it become fixed or is it never fixed? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
Throughout the season, you'd find, "Maybe I could do this here and that there," hoping that he won't see it. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
-And sometimes... -I do see it. I've noticed you've changed already. I'm not completely happy with it. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
But sometimes our changes actually work. Sometimes. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
But it's good to have a balance. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
-They have to be soft in the chest and they have to push off the back leg. -Yes. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
-So it looks like it's going through space. -Yeah. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
It's those technical things I'm looking at and how he uses his core. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Also, it's the whole body because the music fills all of the stage | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and so I need this to fill the whole stage. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
DRAMATIC MUSIC | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
-It ends here. -Yeah, yeah. -It ends here. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-Very good, Dane. -Wow, brilliant. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
'In this sequence, dancer Eryck Brahmania has been asked to dance as though he's a flame.' | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
In terms of your characterisation, how much are you thinking "fire"? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
You've got to think about it from the beginning to the end, otherwise the audience won't read it, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
so this is still very new. We've had one session on this solo. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
There's still material being processed and understanding all the steps, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
but if you try to think the whole way through the essence of fire or flame, it's more like a playful flame. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:14 | |
It's always changing until probably... until we finally get on stage. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Can you do some blue flame for me? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
If I do the material as a blue flame, I think it would be... | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
a lot calmer and a lot... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
a bit more mysterious. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Yeah. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
That speaks volumes because an interesting fire does that anyway. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
If you chuck on a bit of the Sunday Times supplement, you get blues and greens, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
-but then they're swept away and there's more orange. It's interesting. -Yeah. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
I think with this piece you have to find all those different elements, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
those different textures and qualities, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
so it's a little bit difficult. It's much easier doing it in one style. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
-Who wants easy though? -I know. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-Mark never wants easy. -That was beautiful. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Really beautiful. I never thought of those kinds of suggestions. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
The ability to interpret a colour or an idea without words is a real skill. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
And for some people, dance, it's like it's hard-wired into them, it's an essential part of them, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:32 | |
a totally natural form of self-expression. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
I played rugby and tennis at school, I played the piano, cello. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
I was interested in art, music, sport, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
but somehow dance seemed to... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
I often think dance touches the things that other things can't | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
and maybe for me dance was a wonderful marriage of the physical | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
and the emotional and the musical and the spiritual. I don't know. It just meant more to me. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:58 | |
I saw a Bollywood film, one of those old classics, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
made perhaps in the '60s or '50s. There was a dancer in there called Sandhya. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
She did this extraordinary thing in this film. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
She took a fish out of the water and she put it on the land | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
and the fish was obviously gasping for air to live. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
She was dancing and imitating every movement of that fish. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
It had such an impact on me. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
I went to bed, I remember, dreaming about being a dancer. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
I woke up the next day. I knew exactly that I wanted to be a dancer all my life. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
It was so relevant to me, embodying some communication like that. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
My grandfather was given a radiogram when he retired and when he died, it came to us. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
Then music came to our house. We put these LPs on, these 78s. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
I opened the window and we had a little garden. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
I went on to the lawn and I danced to Beethoven, Mozart and Brahms. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
Janet Smith and dancers of Scottish Dance Theatre hold regular events | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
where they show and discuss short extracts of their work. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
There's a way in which we can watch. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
In the same way as you can listen to music and hear pattern and form in music, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
you can do exactly that in the form and pattern that dancers make. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
The challenge is to draw attention to that | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
because you're just watching human beings doing pattern and form. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
You are watching people and that is the first way that we look at each other. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
GENTLE PIANO MUSIC | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
So I think that dance, unlike other forms, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
tells its story through space and through time together. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
Let's just have a look at a solo and a duet | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
that travel on different lines of space. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Sometimes like just the relationship of them in space and stuff | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
can show you the relationship that's going on in the piece or what somebody's trying to convey. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
It's really nice to see the dancers watching each other and seeing each other and responding to each other, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
which I thought was really clear. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Also the facial expression, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
not just the movement, like the eye contact between the dancers and just the little quirky expressions. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
The best thing which I felt about contemporary dancing is it gives you a freedom to think. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
It does not have just one specific story that all the people around here would think, "OK, this is it." | 0:22:07 | 0:22:14 | |
No, each one will have a different view, a different perspective. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
For Kenneth Tharp, dance can be an essential part of a person's development, yet it's often ignored. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
I was lucky enough to discover my passion for dance at a young age and then never wanted to stop. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
I don't know if you've read the latest book by Sir Ken Robinson, The Element. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
They're a wonderful collection of stories and anecdotes about often very famous people | 0:22:50 | 0:22:56 | |
from Richard Branson to Sir Paul McCartney to the guy who invented The Simpsons | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
to the drummer from Fleetwood Mac and also a brilliant one about the choreographer Gillian Lynne. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
What they all had in common was that at school, it's as though their innate talent | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
that later brought them to fame lay unrecognised. If anything, they were seen as problems. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
Lea Anderson loved dancing ballet, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
but when she didn't match the idealised shape of a ballerina, she abandoned dance in favour of art. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:34 | |
I went to art school and I was on a foundation year. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
I kept kicking over everyone else's work | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
as I would suddenly jump or leap. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
I would smash up so many people's sculptures. I jumped through a painting. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
The principal said, "Every lunchtime you go to your dance classes, all day long you destroy everyone's art. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
"Why aren't you doing dance? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
"You could bring your art and the ways of thinking to dance and invent your own dance." | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
I thought, "Why didn't I think of that?" | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
I was taken by a friend's mum down to Pineapple | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
and ended up in a jazz class taught by Arlene Phillips. I was 13. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Step... On to a straight leg there. Pull it up. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
'I spent years doing that in lots of dreadful legwarmers and enjoyed it tremendously. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
'I got my Equity card at 17 and I adored working with Arlene.' | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
I felt that you could go further and deeper with the contemporary work, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
so it really was extremely challenging and you could develop and grow doing it. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
But also there's something more expressive in it than I'd found in the jazz. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
What was so great when I was dancing with Lea Anderson | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
was to find someone whose work not only I enjoyed doing, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
but I felt I could bring something to and add in and contribute. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
I think a lot of dancers don't ever find that, so I felt really lucky. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
I danced for eight years with Lea and it was just a joy. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
At Trinity Laban Conservatoire Of Music And Dance, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
they teach a way of understanding how movement is generated in the body | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
and how from this comes dance. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
GENTLE, MELANCHOLIC MUSIC | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
What I teach here is called Choreological Studies. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
And it's based on the principles and practice of somebody called Rudolf Laban | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
from which Trinity Laban gets its name. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
It's about introducing students to the fact that dance is made from movement. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
Movement is, if you like, the raw material of the art form, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
but quite often in practice, people come to dance | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
through learning steps, styles or techniques | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and not understanding necessarily the structure of movement itself. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Walk around the space. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
'We look at human movement in all its structural complexity | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
'as a way of understanding how we can refine and create dance.' | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
And stop. I'd like you to walk and then be still. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
'Using movement terms for movement and not subjective, personal ways of feeling about it.' | 0:26:43 | 0:26:50 | |
But if you arrest the movement, you create something other, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
so I want you to travel therefore and then be still. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Really still, Charles. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Right, off you go. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Little by little, we visit each of these intrinsic structures of human movement | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
and understand how movement is structured before we make dance. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
OK. Thank you. So we have what we call a two-action phrase. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
You would understand as a musician that the duration and speed of those two actions | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
would create some kind of phrasing, OK? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
You need to choose what that is, OK? | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
Dance doesn't happen to you. You make decisions about it. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
It's not about putting shapes on the outside of you. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
It's about generating from the inside out. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
SLOW, MELANCHOLIC MUSIC | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Strong breath, shifting... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Yeah, much better. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
And then we come over the top and we're just going to start to allow everything to curve. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
You've been quite audible with your expression of energy. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
We work on the breaths, so that they're hearing and listening to their own breathing. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:07 | |
Sometimes they hear and see the breathing of others. We also sometimes make noises in class. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
-And also breath is rhythm. It's your internal rhythmic map. -Yeah. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
And sometimes we work with that as our music in a way. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
Rather than working to tempo, we sometimes work with breath rhythm, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
that idea of feeling when the movement changes from the inside. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Shifting circle, release... | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Come back. Not bad. Good. Nice work. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
When you come back at the end from here... | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I find it fascinating exploring Laban and understanding some of its principles. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
It's about being so far inside your own body, physically, mechanically even, understanding the motivation | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
for a limb to move in a certain way. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Beyond that, it's all about breath, wonderful, intuitive breaths spread amongst a class of dancers. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:57 | |
It's like perfect, silent music. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
THEY EXHALE | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Change, change. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
'So this is all about movement. How does movement then get turned into formalised dance? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:12 | |
'This is where choreography comes in. David Massingham danced with Adventures In Motion Pictures | 0:29:12 | 0:29:19 | |
'and he's now Artistic Director of DanceXchange Birmingham.' | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
Do I think a flock of birds is a piece of choreography if you film it? No. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
It's beautifully kind of watchable and interesting, but it's not choreography. No one's designed it. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
But I think that's what's fantastic about contemporary dance. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
Over the years, through its creative roots, it's looked at life itself | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
and built an art form out of it. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
That's why it keeps evolving and changing and becoming more popular. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
It does reflect life beautifully. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
For me, it's an art form that uses | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
the space between people | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and gesture and shape to convey meaning without pinning it down with a word. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
It's an incredibly complex and wonderful art form. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
It enables me to make pieces of movement that simultaneously suggest various interpretations, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:22 | |
sometimes opposing interpretations, which can make for a very complex description of a relationship | 0:30:22 | 0:30:28 | |
or somebody's relationship with their environment can be very moving and transforming as a performance. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:35 | |
25 years ago, Lea Anderson set up The Cholmondeleys and then The Featherstonehaughs. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
She's choreographed hundreds of shows with them and others. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
I like to know what restrictions we'll have from the costume. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
It's far more interesting to work with it in mind and the meaning of a costume. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
Having dance pyjamas or a nice loose-fitting thing that enables you to do everything, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:03 | |
what does that say about movement and humans?! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
The thing about costumes and people and life and humanity is about our clothing and what we look like | 0:31:07 | 0:31:13 | |
and how we choose to appear. For me, that's very important. The dressing of the human. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:20 | |
I also like to have a lighting design kind of worked out first. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Some bits might be in darkness, some in light. That's more interesting. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
I'm getting a real sense that contemporary dance is all things to all people - | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
dancers, choreographers, audience. One of the things I'm learning is | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
that I need to let go of ANY preconceptions. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
Mayuri Boonham choreographs contemporary dance drawn from the ancient Indian form Bharata Natyam. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:18 | |
It's my responsibility as a dance maker to give you the experience I want to take you on. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:28 | |
There shouldn't be any barrier in terms of, "All very interesting, but those gestures, I don't get it." | 0:32:28 | 0:32:35 | |
I'm really interested in breaking down that barrier. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
RHYTHMIC CHANTING | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
I've still got this nagging doubt that maybe I just won't get it, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
so I got some very useful advice from dance critic Donald Hutera. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
Try and find something to connect with, whether that could be the music, a bit of text, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:08 | |
because a lot of people are talking in dance now, whether it's a costume | 0:33:08 | 0:33:14 | |
or set or a step. Sometimes it can be something as simple as the way a leg moves, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
the way somebody does an arm movement. And something clicks. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
I think this is key, fastening on something perhaps very small. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
So much of contemporary dance is not about story. There's story in it, a narrative in the body, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:40 | |
there are different angles and aspects of storytelling. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
Akram Khan says he is a storyteller, not a choreographer. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
THEY BOTH SPEAK | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
It's amazing how much power it holds. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
For me, some of the best work rises from a clarity of intention. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:07 | |
If the artist is really clear about what they want to do, that can produce the best kind of ambiguity | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
whereby I will have one feeling or thought about something, you'll have another | 0:34:13 | 0:34:19 | |
and we'll both be right because there is no wrong. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
Back at the Scottish Dance Theatre, the dance has moved on. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I felt it was almost like a relationship between the two people | 0:34:51 | 0:34:57 | |
and it was as if they were trying to decide who wore the trousers, who had power. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:03 | |
It's like a relationship that's got a bit stuck and they're a burden on each other, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
this shifting of weight is like, "Uh..." | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
And then at the end it seems like they split up and James is confused. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
He was trying hard to convince her | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
and, I'm afraid, he didn't make it. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
This has got me thinking. If I could dance, what would I have to say? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
'Liz Rankin found dance in her 20s with DV8 amongst others. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
'She now specialises in stage movement.' | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
I'm going to work with physicalising emotions, accessing a somatic memory | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
held in the muscles, a subconscious memory, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
but which you can relate from specific moments | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
-in your own memory, that I'll access it from. -Wow. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
-Aaaaaah. -Aaaaaah. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
Now! | 0:36:49 | 0:36:50 | |
You feel the sun, you can hear the seagulls. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
'In a way, you're reversing a lot of what I've learnt' | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
as I've become a sentient human being. We learn, don't we, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
-not to listen to what our inner core is telling us... -Yes. -..because it's not appropriate. -Yes, yes. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:08 | |
I very much come from a journey | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
where I was coming from a family that put mind over body. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
Good. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
We ignored, we forgot the body. There was no value in exploring it. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
A journey has taken me back to my interest in the arts and the holistic wisdom in the body. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:30 | |
-All the way down. Take the feet over the head and hang there. -Oh! | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
That's as far as it goes! | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
'Liz is going to open up the connection between my mind and body | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
-'to see if I can express an emotion in movement.' -You're waking the back up. Roll back. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:47 | |
Roll. Try over the other knee. Right knee. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
And back. And round! And up! | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
And down. Up and down! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
Miaoooow! | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
OK. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
We're opening the lungs, the heart, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
the nervous system. Good. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
BOTH: Miaoooooow! | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
We're just going to work with physicalising an essence of love | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
to see what that emotion does to the quality of movement. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
I want you to think of a specific situation where, "Yes, I felt love." ..Great. So where are you? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
I'm just welcoming my daughter into the world. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-You've got a new-born baby. -Yes. -Is she in your arms? -She wasn't, but she could be. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:44 | |
-What else is in the room? -Em, a fire. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
-Is your wife there? -No, just me and my daughter. -Just you and your daughter. Great. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:53 | |
-Can you smell anything? -That delicious smell of new-born baby. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:59 | |
From this position, by physicalising a flow of movement, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
just one movement inspiring the next, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
see what it does to... That's it. Fantastic, fantastic. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
One movement after the next. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Good. Good, good. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
That's beautiful. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
See, you're... That's it. Gorgeous, gorgeous. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
Lovely. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Dance is an incredibly emotive form, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
both for the protagonist and also the observer. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
It's also a very pure form. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
You can't come into dance, certainly as a participant, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
with a load of radio interference in your head. You need to find clarity | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
and find a purity. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Your body has to become a bit like a...a perfect vessel. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
Here is the perfect human. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
'I'm trying to learn the body.' | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I don't have a whole theory that is complete. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
Maybe just before I die, I'll write it down! | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
One name that keeps cropping up is Hofesh Shechter, Israeli choreographer and dancer, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:54 | |
who won the 2004 Place Audience Prize. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Movement is not just about the shapes you see on stage. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
These shapes are a translation of a feeling. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
When someone watches them, it translates back into a feeling. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
You can see them dancing sometimes and you think, "That can look like a ceremony in Africa," | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
or a club on a Saturday night or like something you can see at a political rally. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:34 | |
Or something that you can see in, you know, a folk dance event. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
And that sort of confusion, that similarity between a lot of things, makes it cool for me. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:44 | |
Growing up in Israel, the conflict there continues to inform Shechter's choreography and ideas. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:57 | |
I did feel that I am growing up in a country that is in a conflict, a country that is very Western | 0:42:00 | 0:42:07 | |
and free and everyone can say and do what they want, but at 18 you have to go to the army. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
And I found this amazing. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
It's kind of like an extract of the most intense moments of a dance piece that I have made | 0:42:21 | 0:42:27 | |
which is called Uprising. The piece is dealing with boys' energy and with boys' mentality | 0:42:27 | 0:42:33 | |
and with boys' behaviour, with the idea of playing and fighting, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
and liking to play and liking to fight. How fun it is to be part of a war. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:46 | |
The music is the reason I do dance. That's, you know... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
I love the feeling when music is played in a theatre. It just gives me...a thrill. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:22 | |
It can create atmosphere, it can create rules, it can create thoughts. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:28 | |
It can take you somewhere like that. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
ALL: This is what we do. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
Music feeds contemporary dance, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
but if you want dance to reflect your own life experience, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
you've got to find a music that does that as well. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
From a very young age, coming from a Grenadian family, calypso was the dance style, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:55 | |
soca was really important. My brothers then did jazz dance. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
One did a lot of reggae dance. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
But for me, when I first saw hip hop dance, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
that belonged to me. That made sense, it related to the environment | 0:44:06 | 0:44:12 | |
where I grew up, the concrete environment, which street dance comes from, made a lot of sense. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:18 | |
When Jonzi D went to study dance, hip hop was not an option available to him. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
What I found at The Place, the London Contemporary Dance School, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
was that the idea of contemporary dance | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
didn't quite add up to me. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
A lot of these dance styles we were learning were from the '30s and '40s. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:45 | |
So when you say "contemporary", do you mean of today? | 0:44:45 | 0:44:50 | |
Because as far as I was concerned, I was already doing contemporary dance, the dance of today. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:57 | |
I was already popping. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Locking. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
And breaking. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
What I realised is that the title "contemporary dance" | 0:45:05 | 0:45:10 | |
is a noun. It's not a descriptive word. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
And actually I wanted to use the dance of today to make dance theatre. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:20 | |
I looked at some of the ballet structures, at Petit Allegro and the fast footwork. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:28 | |
That's what we do in breaking. There's a fast footwork idea. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
I looked at Grand Allegro - big movements, big jumps. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:38 | |
That's what I would say are power moves in breakdance, when you do windmills and stuff like that. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:44 | |
I looked at freezes in breaking and I thought of when dancers finish their set | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
and they'll end in a pose. So I took all of those elements. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
Then I thought, "We're doing the same thing, actually." | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
There's no real difference other than the movement itself. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
We can still tell the stories, we can still structure a narrative, still use staging and lighting, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:13 | |
but we can do it with this new dance form. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
AUDIENCE CHEER | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
Jonzi D and Hofesh Shechter are part of Sadler's Wells' initiative | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
to bring dance talent in-house to create new work. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
This move away from being simply a receiving house marks a return to its early producing days. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:38 | |
As their most recent full-length dance piece, The Most Incredible Thing, shows | 0:46:39 | 0:46:45 | |
with a score from the Pet Shop Boys, it's very much the vision of Artistic Director Alistair Spalding. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
The golden age of Sadler's Wells was when things were created here. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
I took over, really, when it was still a presenting house only. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
That's OK, but it's very important that each theatre has a creative heart to it. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:06 | |
That's why I invited the associates in and started a philosophy of production as well as invitations. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:13 | |
That really has turned things round. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
Ten, nine, eight, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
seven, six, five... | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
I was determined in a way to democratise the art form. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
You shall not covet your neighbour's husband or wife. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
So to make Sadler's Wells a place where you could have hip hop, as well as ballet and contemporary dance, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:37 | |
people could really come and own that stage. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
Anybody could come here and enjoy it. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
And I think that really needs a very wide view of what dance can be. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
You shall not blaspheme. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
You have to come with a leap. It's new work, not a known thing like seeing Cinderella or something. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:05 | |
It's a question of trying to find out what it is that speaks to you and appeals to you. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
I feel that because everyone's got a body and they're watching bodies moving, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
there is work that will reach everybody if they find the right piece for them. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:22 | |
I am the Lord, your god. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
RAPID DRUMMING | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
At the Scottish Dance Theatre show and tell, the music is now very abstract | 0:48:35 | 0:48:41 | |
and the dance much more complex. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
Did anybody want to share any images they got along the way or any thoughts that they had? | 0:48:56 | 0:49:02 | |
-West Side Story. -West Side Story? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Wonderful. Yeah, yeah, West Side Story. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
Yeah. Very strong image. Two gangs. There's a moment of confrontation, it seems. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:15 | |
-Quite primal. Do you want to say more about that? -It's just how it felt. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:21 | |
There was rivalry, there was... I took the gang image. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
There was...aggression. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
There's something quite tribal, almost sacrificial at the end. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
-Sacrificial? -Yeah. The girl toing and froing and being chucked about. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
It was easier to understand and be more open and just let it happen | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
and not try to figure it out and get all confused about what one person was doing, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:19 | |
just let it talk to you. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
Also just in terms of having confidence, you know, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
to really realise the level on which we can and do perceive movement. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
That it's rich, that it's deep, that it's multilayered, everything that is in literature. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:36 | |
Finding dance that appeals to you should be possible | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
at the International Dance Festival. The driving force behind it is David Massingham | 0:50:45 | 0:50:50 | |
and his broad experience in dance ensures an eclectic programme. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
My mother used to be a dancer and I started doing classes that were really disco classes | 0:50:55 | 0:51:01 | |
at the time. Then she started doing ballet classes by herself, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
again when she was kind of hitting 50. Then I thought, "Why not add ballet to what I'm doing?" | 0:51:06 | 0:51:13 | |
I started going to ballet with her. She dropped out, but I carried on. I was looking at a range of styles, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:19 | |
thinking, "There's something in this for me." | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
One of the things we do a lot as part of the International Dance Festival | 0:51:24 | 0:51:29 | |
is commission work that fuses different styles. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
I love pure ballet up against disco dancing or contemporary dance. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
I think that makes it really exciting. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
Down, roll it, and turn, turn... | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
One time, two times, three times, four times... | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
We've had some really major hits outdoors in free spaces. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
It attracts a very different audience. People who don't go to theatres will go to the street. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:59 | |
# Let's do it, come on | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
# One, two... # | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Contemporary dance is an amazing place for imagination to run free. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
There are no rules, not really any impositions. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
I've always been put off by the sheer skinniness of ballet, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
the sense of body fascism, imposed body shape. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
Contemporary dance offers a place for everyone. The Candoco Dance Company is celebrating 20 years | 0:52:21 | 0:52:28 | |
of including people with non-traditional dancing bodies. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
We are basically a bunch of dancers who enjoy working and dancing together. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
Our focus has always been dance and not disability. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
In 1996, Candoco Dance Company were coming to Australia for the first time | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
so I went to do this 12-week course | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
called Moveable Dance, introducing us to the principles of contact. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
And it was the first time that I really felt like I had landed in my skin | 0:52:56 | 0:53:02 | |
and I finally realised what this body actually could do, rather than what I was told it couldn't do. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:10 | |
Candoco inspired Caroline to become a choreographer and dancer | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
and she's now employed by the Scottish Dance Theatre as their Dance Agent for Change. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:23 | |
This is a tiny duet called The Long And The Short Of It, for very obvious reasons. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
I am the short of it! | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
And Joan is the long of it, as the tallest dancer in the company. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:37 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
It was never an option until I was around a group of people who weren't scared to go, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:59 | |
"We'll try it. We'll take the risk and see what happens." | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
And to go through that thing with me of me being quite anxious. "I don't know if I can...!" | 0:54:03 | 0:54:09 | |
And just kind of doing that baby steps thing of, little by little, building my confidence | 0:54:09 | 0:54:16 | |
and their confidence and really getting to that... that launch place. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:23 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
So when you watch that piece, I'm curious what you find yourself thinking about. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:11 | |
It's the infectious happiness that comes through. Two people together in harmony. Wonderful. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:18 | |
That expression you can twist somebody around your little finger. That's how I see it. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:24 | |
There's so many levels on which we can read work. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
We're thinking about trying to make different lines, not circles now. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:32 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
As a Dance Agent for Change, it's Caroline's job to introduce new people to dance. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:43 | |
'Sometimes it takes one person to do that, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
'to go, "You can do that if you really want to." | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
'And that's a lot of what I try to do with people I work with. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
'It's kind of going, "Well, I can do it." | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
'I think that's what people see when they come to a performance that I'm in or whatever. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:09 | |
'All of a sudden, they kind of go, "Maybe that could be me."' | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
I'm less frightened of contemporary dance than I was at the start. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
It did seem like this amazing high production value, glossy thing, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
which was unobtainable to people like me. Now I feel...it's my friend. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:56 | |
I've always wanted to search for the otherness. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
I've always enjoyed seeing general culture | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
and wanted to see if we can present it another way, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
but still staying in contact with the raw human emotion and our desires. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:18 | |
It's a wonderful human activity and I also think dance is a wonderfully healing activity. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:26 | |
I feel it's a really exciting time for dance. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
Half a million people come here a year now. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
So it's just getting to reach different people in a different way and that's what is really exciting. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:40 | |
I'm now like an Exocet | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
on a mission to find the right contemporary dance projects to fuse with music I'm doing. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
I'm already thinking of five or six different situations I've got | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
where dance, some element of movement, will lift them up. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:01 | |
Subtitles by Subtext for Red Bee Media Ltd - 2011 | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
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