Force of Nature: The Sculpture of David Nash


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This fallen oak tree is about to become a piece of work

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devised by one of Britain's most original sculptors.

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A real idea has spirit energy in it, and they compel me to make them.

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They actually bring that energy with them.

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David Nash sees unique forms in each tree that becomes available.

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Over his 40-year-long career, he has fashioned over 2,000 sculptures,

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many of them monumental in scale.

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He also breaks with convention.

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He burns the forms he creates.

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He creates works of art that take decades to evolve.

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He purposefully creates objects that might not be seen.

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He allows nature to pick up and continue the sculpture

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where he and his chainsaws left off.

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His take on organic form is at once very literal, he's got literal wood,

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and as well as literal, it's metaphorical and symbolic.

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It stands for that world of experience,

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of the natural and the organic.

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Nash's sculptures have the hallmarks of both man and nature.

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They can be found all over the world

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from prestigious national collections, to the bottom of rivers.

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Being able to just make the stuff that comes out of him

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and not to be unduly influenced by fashion

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and what other people say or think or do.

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To David Nash, wood is more than just a raw material.

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It's led him to a deeper understanding of the properties of trees.

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His sculpture is a true collaboration with the forces of nature.

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For most of 2010, the Yorkshire Sculpture Park

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was the location of David Nash's biggest exhibition to date.

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263 pieces, representing every stage of his career,

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were gathered from all over the world.

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200,000 people have visited the exhibition.

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As well as being a survey of an important career,

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it was also a showcase for new works.

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Six months before the exhibition opened,

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Nash was making new works on site at the park.

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Turning ideas into form, creating monumental sculptures,

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and a permanent work in the landscape.

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The steps being put into place here will serve a practical purpose

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as well as being aesthetically pleasing.

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Could you put it back?

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About an inch and a half.

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By the beginning of May, a reunion of sculptures on loan

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from collections all over the world,

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were assembled in the halls and galleries of Yorkshire Sculpture Park.

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They have travelled here from as far afield

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as California and Shanghai.

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The idea is actually more flexible than the material, I've found.

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You've just got to get a sense of the idea into it.

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It's no good trying to be exact,

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because the feeling of an idea is not exact.

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It's just a compelling force.

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In 1978, the Arts Council made a film about an up-and-coming young artist.

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This film sits alongside Nash's own archive of film,

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video and photographs,

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which track the development of his ideas and working methods.

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30 years later, he is still studying the trees with a forensic eye.

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Nash has identified some raw material

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that will soon be given new life as sculpture.

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Long before it was fashionable to be green,

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Nash was determined to work only with wood that nature made

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available to him - trees blown down by the wind, or killed by disease.

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Only then will he consider its potential for sculpture.

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I would never take a tree if there was no reason to take it down.

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I can only really engage with it once it's down.

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Then I go over it like a dentist looking at teeth,

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checking the rot spots and what these forms are.

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The art of making a sculpture,

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for me it's trying to make an object which is more here.

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There are ways of doing this.

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I never polish the surface because

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my eye just slides off it. A rough surface.

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It needs to have holes and cracks in it which will draw the viewer in.

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It's got to have an animation, which is actually in the original tree.

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You've got to allow the echo of the source to resonate.

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The chainsaw is a heavy, cumbersome tool.

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Not the obvious choice to create delicate surfaces and texture,

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but Nash wields it as adeptly as a painter would a brush.

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What a lot of artists are interested in doing

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is trying to gather information, to explore certain situations

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in order to arrive at a position of greater knowledge

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or insight about the world.

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What is unique about David Nash

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is that he's chosen to focus his investigations on one particular material.

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Wood obviously, and on the places and the situations

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in which wood can be found.

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The work leads me.

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I've always been aware of possibilities.

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They just wink at me all over the place.

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If I'm alert to them, I can catch them.

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Locating a fallen tree with potential for sculpture,

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is the start of a hugely complex process.

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A massive oak tree has fallen into a river

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near Nash's home in north Wales.

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He needs a team of expert tree surgeons

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with a serious tool kit to access it.

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This is dangerous. These are very, very heavy pieces of wood

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and these people are very skilful.

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It's like you're investing an energy, and investing a focus

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into the material, so that material to me becomes very special.

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I've invested a lot into it.

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It's not like any piece of wood,

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it's a THE piece of wood.

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Those trees are probably 100 years old,

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so it's got a story, its own story.

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Its form is because of where it is,

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and because of where it is, it's fallen down.

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So that's all part of its narrative.

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I make mainly abstract work, but there is a strong narrative

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to the sourcing of the material

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and that the narrative goes into the form.

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I try and always source my wood from trees

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which have become naturally available, like this.

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It feels ethically OK for me to source my wood from this place.

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David? Just going to put the second...

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The actual dismantling of it,

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there are practical facts that I have to go with.

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Sculpture is a physical, factual art.

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You're working with substances which live in real space,

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which have real weight,

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so the actual sourcing of the material does condition the sizes

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of the pieces that I can then start with.

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Wood is a traditional material

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used by craftsmen and sculptors since ancient times.

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But in Nash's hands,

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trees become works of conceptual art with a primeval power.

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I usually start by making something I've done before

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because I don't have the anxiety of trying to find a new idea.

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It just gets it all flowing, it gets the sawdust flying,

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and it just connects me physically with what I've got to work with.

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Then after three days, usually, new ideas start to come.

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They're coming from the circumstance of that place.

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David Nash is associated with the British Land Art movement of the '70s,

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where landscape and art are inextricably linked.

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But for him, art was a bid for freedom to follow his own path.

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What's behind being an artist is being a free human being.

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So that was my real quest.

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When I was a youngster reading about artists,

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these artists seemed to be free.

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Typical thing of a teenage, English, middle-class boy

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being sent to a boarding school.

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My experience was this overwhelming sense

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of being controlled and moulded and modelled.

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So I was at war with anything that pushed authority towards me,

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or assumed authority over me.

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I had to take authority.

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That still lives in me now.

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The essential thing of an artist is to work out

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of their own personal journey and freedom.

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In 1967, David Nash moved to a remote slate mining town

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in North Wales that he'd known as a child.

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Blaenau Ffestiniog.

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His main motivation for moving here was an economic one.

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The derelict slate quarry workshops were full of cast-off planks

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of wood, a godsend to an impoverished young artist.

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So hence my working as a scavenger,

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not paying any money for my materials.

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Not trying to work in steel or bronze,

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or materials which actually would cost me.

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And I found this really suited me, in that I was picking up something

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that had been discarded or had no value,

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and I could bring some qualities to it.

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I didn't really know whether this was art or not.

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Blaenau Ffestiniog is in an area

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with the highest recorded rainfall in Wales

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and is situated at the foot of mountainous

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heaps of slate waste from the old industry.

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Moving to this grey, wet town after art college in London

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was the perfect antidote to London's competitive art scene.

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Coming to Blaenau was like coming to somewhere where nobody was watching.

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I was very naive and I started building a big tower here,

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because obviously that was very evident,

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but I felt I was separate enough to try this out.

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Hence the first tower was like an epic statement.

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Like trying to write a whole opera,

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a huge philosophical statement,

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and this moving through these various layers,

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going up through the legs and the guts and into the head and into the heavens.

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The tower was the start of it all,

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the seed from which ideas would evolve into a vast family of sculptures.

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What you have here, starting with this very early work,

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the first tower that he made in 1967,

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which was made up of bits of wood that he found in skips and round and about,

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this being the source of everything.

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This started to be him speaking,

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and then gradually you can see how the works expand out

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to form the full vocabulary.

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There's a real patience here.

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This is really physically hard, arduous stuff.

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You get here a real sense of someone's life evolving

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over a period of time, that's quite remarkable actually.

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I don't know another artist who's really traced

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their own life's work in this way.

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In 1968, David Nash acquired Capel Rhiw,

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a chapel in the heart of Blaenau Ffestiniog.

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At a cost of £200, this would enable Nash

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to keep his overheads to a minimum,

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and realise an ambition to fuse life and work.

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Very few young artists have the opportunity of actually having

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their materials in abundance around them and unmade work or unresolved work,

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without having to put them away

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because they have to have the space to make the new piece.

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This bringing together of life and work

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is something that's crucial

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to an understanding of David Nash and his work.

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It seems to me that from the very beginning of his career,

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this is one of his stated ambitions.

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What that means is that the work not only informs the life,

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but the life informs the work.

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It gives us a body of sculpture and drawings and other projects

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that are in a strange kind of way autobiographical,

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but they also reflect the character of their maker,

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the character of the artist.

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This is a very, very powerful quality within David Nash's work.

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David Nash married Claire Langdown, an artist who also worked with wood

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at the time, and the chapel became a family project.

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If something interesting's going on somewhere, however far away

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from London or New York or wherever, people will hear about it.

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Now with two young boys, life and work was one and the same thing.

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Major galleries began to be interested

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and made the long trek to the Nash studio and home.

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People from the art world came to see the chapel,

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the work that was going on there.

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There was always something to see because he was seriously working.

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People liked the fact that he had made his house

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and he had made his kids' toys.

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We were like a sort of a team of artists when the boys were little.

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They were involved with everything we did.

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This picture is of William in David's arms

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while he's sawing a piece of wood.

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Just that lovely thing of them being

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able to be involved in what we were doing.

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Blaenau is a very, very interesting place,

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because you come to it through

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the extraordinary mountains of the National Park,

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and this incredible natural beauty.

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Suddenly you arrive in this hole within the middle of it,

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which is this man-made landscape.

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It has a sublime quality to it.

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These vast mountains of slate.

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And it's very impressive in a fundamental way.

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I know something David talks about is that this is a landscape

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that is made by man and nature, and that an understanding of that

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was something that was important for him

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in terms of his development as an artist.

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It's hard to imagine that his career would have developed

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in the same way, had he been working in a studio somewhere in London.

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So the move to north Wales not only took him out

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of that immediate art world context,

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but it gave him access to different ways of living,

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different ways of thinking about everything.

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I think for a lot of sculptors place,

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location of where they are, is very important. It runs deep.

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Particularly with Blaenau, which is like an enormous sculpture,

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where people have delved deep into the ground

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and brought out this material.

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If you go down into those quarries, which you can do, it's solid stone.

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They quarried it out, down, down, down there,

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blasting these rocks out, hauling them up,

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and then working them.

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Only about 20% was actually usable and this is the 80% waste.

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These beautiful diagonal lines have just found themselves

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out of millions of loose pieces which have just tumbled down,

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thrown away, but they've ended up with a very precise geometric form.

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So there's a tight and looseness about it at the same time.

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There is a paradox.

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In my work, I just do enough for the form to show itself.

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So it could be made up of many parts, like the red dome for example.

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There are over 150 pieces there,

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and they're quite loosely put together.

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The order is their size,

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but they can go in any order so long as the sizes grade upwards.

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So there's a looseness in the way of putting it together,

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but there's a tightness in the form.

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I think the beholder finds this dichotomy,

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this paradox, very satisfying.

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For me, when something is satisfying, it's meeting some sort of need,

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of a seeking of a signal of truth.

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The tips look as they do from the process of their making.

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That, to me, was my fundamental clue on how to work.

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Keep my mind on the process

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and let the resulting object take care of itself.

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What it looked like could take care of itself.

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So long as the process itself was clean and true and pure,

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I could trust that and let the object be

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and not worry it after I'd finished the process.

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The early work, Nine Cracked Balls, was the breakthrough piece.

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These lumps of wood might appear on impressive, but to David Nash,

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they were the spark of inspiration that has guided his work ever since.

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The log, being a tree, you cut down with an axe.

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Fallen, so the end is axe shaped.

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Axe cut. So I just axe cut like that,

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cutting in, rolled it over, so then I can cut the underside.

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So when that lump came off...

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..it was actually the pure result of the process

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of chopping a lump of wood off, a length.

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And then when that came off,

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I then had this rounded shape repeated.

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So I just did it again and did it again

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until there were nine.

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And I'd stored them in a sort of heap in the studio,

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and I'd sort of forgotten about them.

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And then, six months later, they had all cracked,

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so they were all there like grinning at me.

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And it was like saying, come on, David, this is the way to go.

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Go with us.

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So I did. So this is my first step, and that is the key.

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So I got them out,

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and I found that I could put them three rows of three.

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They really made sense.

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I mean, they spoke to me. I sort of did it as a one off,

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and then didn't really

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know whether that was real.

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I wasn't confident about them, then. But I am confident about them now.

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Because they were my first step on the path,

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and I've just gone step by step.

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So as long as I stay true to the path,

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the path seems to be staying true to me.

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Now the Nine Cracked Balls are an important part

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of any museum exhibition that shows the development of Nash's ideas in sculpture.

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And Nash's vision, embodied in his early towers,

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is echoed in these later works that extend high into the gallery space.

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I think what one's got to remember about his stuff is that it's quite precise.

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So, this business of there being a letting-go element,

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where he isn't controlling it, is countered by very clear thinking.

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Art is often about leaps in the dark.

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You could imagine

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his career starting in a rather stumbling way,

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that he discovers something that leads to something else and so on.

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And he isn't entirely confident that he isn't just

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sort of chancing it a bit.

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And as the practice builds up over time,

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he becomes more confident of the overall picture of what he's doing.

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But he wants to retain that element of chancy-ness.

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I think that is a very successful component of what he does.

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But what is lovely and important and profound and admirable

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about what he does, for me, is the way that he can grasp

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this element that occurs a lot in modern art,

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the really chancy and the really, "Well, I don't know

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"what will happen now, and I don't really know what I'm doing.

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"But I have enough confidence in what I've done up to now

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"to take that chance and make it work."

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But while Nash sculptures travel all over the world,

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their home is the chapel.

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At any one time, up to 400 pieces reside here.

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But the sculptures come and go in an ever-changing dance,

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that makes this place the centre of a global sculpture network.

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The chapel is an extraordinary place.

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One has quite as sort of uncanny feeling going into the chapel

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for the first time, because it feels almost as if it's occupied

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by hundreds of living things.

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A kind of congregation, if you like, of work that's thronged there,

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seem to have this unusual vitality.

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So you immediately walk into a space that is full of the smell of wood,

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the rich, warm, tones and colours of wood, but it's sort of animated.

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This is the kind of thing that really struck me about it

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when I first went there - this sense of vitality.

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In preparation for the exhibition at Yorkshire Sculpture Park,

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most of the sculptures were wrapped up and sent on a chapel outing.

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-Doing a tidy job there.

-Yeah.

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One local, Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas, was amazed by what he saw

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going on in the chapel

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when he was the MP for Blaenau Ffestiniog in the 1970s.

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I just walked up and looked through the windows and saw these,

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obviously what were works of art.

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And I was immediately captivated by it all. Then I got to know David.

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I keep being reinvigorated whenever I meet him or see his work.

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Not just a passing interest in the chapel,

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Lord Elis-Thomas's father was a minister here.

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'I'd always had it drummed into me, by my father, that this is where our roots were.

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'And, of course, this particular chapel'

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was the great temple of the Presbyterian Church.

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And that's a verse, of course,

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"Holiness, sanctity, behoves your house", would be the translation.

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But, of course, the holy in religion is something spiritual.

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Art, I think, is a close cousin of that drive

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towards the spiritual, in human life.

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And I think it's very appropriate.

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Well, obviously, it's why he did it, he kept it there,

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because he saw a synergy between what the chapel was in the past

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and the spiritual activity that was here, and the creativity,

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verging on the spiritual, which is in his work.

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I love the idea that there is in this chapel now a new congregation.

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David tells me there at least 400,

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which must make it the best-attended chapel for miles around!

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In the mid-'70s, David Nash began working on a piece of land

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called Cainacoid.

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This became a site where he could experiment with sculpture

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that exists outside of the gallery experience...

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Living sculpture.

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He started exploring this concept by planting a circle of ash trees.

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After decades of nurturing,

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the concept that he had imagined in his drawings has taken shape

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and the Ash Dome, a living sculpture, has been realised.

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Through these living works, Nash has a deeper understanding

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of his materials, incorporating the elements more fully

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into his understanding of wood and trees.

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'What a tree is, it's a weave of all the four classic elements

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'of the earth and the air

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'and the light/fire element and water.

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'They are woven by the energy of the tree, the will forces of the tree.

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'It engages with these elements and some are incredibly resilient,'

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like the ash tree. Its will forces are incredible.

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If you cut them right down at the root, they will just come again.

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If they are damaged, they will just deal with it.

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Other trees are more sensitive and don't necessarily recover.

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So this is what has drawn me into...

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..the elemental forces, this is what nature really is.

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And it is relentless.

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These forces are relentless.

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'Planting the trees, this was something very new to me and very exciting.

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'So with the Ash Dome, that was really my realisation that I could

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'grow a form, a space, from sculptural principles,

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'rather than topiary and gardening, and I could use those skills

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'and the skills of hedging to make a space for the 21st century.

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'This is 1977 - gloomy times, then.'

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People were saying, "We're not going to see the 21st century".

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So this was like a rather naive act of faith, of projecting, then, a concept, when it started.

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A concept which would grow, if it worked. I didn't know if it was going to work, if I could really do this.

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But if it did work, it would mature in the 21st century.

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I think the way that he set up that circle of trees, he's brought his sensibility, his experience

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and his thoughtfulness and soulfulness, to something

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which could be glib, and made it really lovely.

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It has a man-made structure, that sort of circle,

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but it is beautifully structured.

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And that structure pays homage to the way that nature

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is always patterned and structured in the first place.

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And we always appreciate those inherent structures of nature.

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On the other side of the valley to Cainacoid

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and a year after planting Ash Dome, another concept that would also have

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a lasting impact on Nash's work was taking shape.

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The Nine Cracked Balls had driven Nash to discover what would happen

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when a very large volume of wood dried out.

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He cut a big lump from the base of an oak,

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with the intention of taking it to his studio.

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While rolling it down the hill, to get it to his van,

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the rough mass of wood became wedged in a stream.

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It looked good here and Nash decided to leave it.

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Now, nature was in control.

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Consecutive storms washed it further downstream.

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Nash followed the wooden boulder, recording it on a journey

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that lasted 25 years, until it reached the river.

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Now, heading to the sea.

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Well, the Wooden Boulder is geometrically a spherish thing.

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If it was a cube or a triangular shape, it would be manufactured,

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but it looks enough like a boulder

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to be naturally there. It's, sort of, it's in disguise.

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That's the other thing about my outdoor pieces.

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This is low visibility. I am not very interested in making

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big red things outside, which shout at you.

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These earlier works particularly, Wooden Boulder and Ash Dome,

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are very discreet and have low visibility.

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The Wooden Boulder, people would walk past it and think it was a boulder, and that's fine.

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The boulder was travelling an average of eight miles a day -

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four miles with the outgoing tide and four miles back on the incoming tide.

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The artist recording it each time it found a new place to settle.

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In June 2003, it was lost and presumed to have broken free of the estuary

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and made it out to the Irish Sea and on into the Atlantic.

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The film Nash had made of the Wooden Boulder's

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erratic progress became a video installation

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and marked a broadening of the artist's work into multimedia.

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The Wooden Boulder, that's really a hands-off sculpture, whereas the Ash Dome is a hands-on one.

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Part of the concept was that it was a sculpture that would need me to be with it.

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It is an artist-attached sculpture,

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whereas the Wooden Boulder is an artist-observing sculpture.

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But in 2008, Wooden Boulder was rediscovered

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in the River Dwyryd,

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trapped among the branches of a fallen tree.

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The conceptual element is extremely important.

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It's about the artist setting a process off

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and telling us what he's done and then, sort of, leaving it.

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We can follow it or not.

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We can imagine it or not.

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Nature kind of just makes it happen.

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Now with the Wooden Boulder rarely visible, there is also the chance,

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of course, that it will once more disappear from view altogether.

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When David Nash

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creates a wooden boulder that moves around,

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so that you are not quite sure what is the sculptural thing exactly

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about it - is it the form of that object

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or is at the context in which the form is seen?

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Or is it just the idea that the boulder is moving around?

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When he's got those ash trees in a circle and they're growing all the time,

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every time you come to them, they are slightly different.

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Most people will never come to them. They are just a story.

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They have heard about them. They appreciate the idea. So you're not quite sure,

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with those particular works and other ones that he's done, what exactly is the sculptural element.

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It could be many things.

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One is open to all of them, because one is convinced by what he's done.

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So he has, in effect there, quite successfully redefined the definition of sculpture,

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with the Ash Dome and that moving wooden boulder.

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As an artist, Nash has chosen a very difficult means of expression.

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Unlike a painter, who can rub out mistakes on a canvas and start again,

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Nash is committed to each cut he makes.

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Mistakes are not an option.

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A tree is pulling up hundreds of gallons of water every day,

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so when it's been cut down, that piece of wood has got a lot of water in it.

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It takes about two years for that water to actually evaporate out into the air.

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The dry air is pulling it out, so when the water content in the wood is equal to the water content

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of the air, then the wood will settle.

0:34:110:34:13

David, he gets a bit of wood, he does something to it,

0:34:150:34:19

but something goes on happening to that wood after he has done that thing.

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So the wood is doing something to itself, as it were, or the natural processes

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that occur to wood in nature are part of the work.

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Water is evaporated from the wood, so it splits.

0:34:330:34:36

The fact that wood does go on changing over time is, sort of, something that we all know

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and we all experience and all appreciate and rather enjoy it,

0:34:410:34:45

when wood is in its natural element. And him harnessing that

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and making that into a gallery experience, is...

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I don't know if this is the right word, but I'll use it anyway,

0:34:550:34:58

it is, sort of, profoundly enjoyable.

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There is something about the very simplicity of the way he has done it

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that one can appreciate and one finds convincing.

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These crack and warp columns

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are water and air pieces.

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They go into my kiln, which is heated under there.

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There is a dehumidifier.

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And the crack and warp column will be sitting in there like that.

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This air is very dry - v dry.

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And it is pulling it out very, very fast.

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I also found that

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it will preserve a colour, which then remains afterwards.

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If it dries more slowly in a room,

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it can dull.

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The actual wood can dull.

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Indoor sculptures, in controlled conditions, behave in

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a different way to sculptures Nash makes for the outside, where the elements are active on the work.

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When Nash has carved a new piece for an exhibition,

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like this Crack And Warp Column at the Yorkshire Sculpture Park,

0:36:060:36:09

it's not unusual for the sculpture to crack loudly

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as it changes shape during the course of the exhibition.

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Throughout the '70s and early '80s, Nash worked alone.

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But, with his reputation growing, and, with it, a demand for him to

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exhibit in other countries, Nash was to realise the benefits of bringing a team together to create the works.

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So I found myself going to Japan,

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which was amazing.

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And being taken up 6,000 feet,

0:36:390:36:42

in February, to see a fallen tree,

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and I had a team of woodmen.

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They didn't speak English. I don't speak Japanese,

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but we both speak wood, so this was a revelation.

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I wasn't using any skills that they were foreign to.

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They were more skilled than I was with these basic methods of moving wood and cutting wood.

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So, over a period of three weeks, I enacted a wood quarry

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and the results were shown in the Tokyo Museum.

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This way of working,

0:37:140:37:16

that Nash discovered in Japan, was to become a hallmark

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of his approach to creating the work in the coming years.

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Looking at the opportunities a fallen tree offers him,

0:37:230:37:27

like a prospector looking at the properties in an outcrop of rock,

0:37:270:37:31

Nash creates a number of sculptures from one tree.

0:37:310:37:34

With labourers and heavy machines employed for the job,

0:37:360:37:39

a focused industrial atmosphere is created around the site.

0:37:390:37:43

Nash came to call these events "wood quarries."

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The motivation to create them was a simple and practical one,

0:37:480:37:53

but it gave Nash the opportunity to investigate new species of trees

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and begin to create works

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on ever-greater scale.

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'In 1996, I was asked to'

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take a tree down in Ascot, at a school there.

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It was a vast oak tree, which had died.

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In the mid-1990s, a long-term friendship and working relationship

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grew between the artist and a tree surgeon from Sussex.

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This friendship is still enabling Nash to develop ambitious ideas.

0:38:510:38:56

Alan Smith continues to source Nash's materials at his yard, sharing a passion for wood.

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I love it, love it from start to finish.

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I couldn't imagine my life without it. I love wood.

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I once said to David, when I first met him, I thanked him for opening my eyes, really.

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To me, felled trees were logs, went off to a sawmill, if you were lucky, and that kind of thing.

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Art is so much better than that, because although wood in houses and building houses are great...

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..art and in particularly, David's art,

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when it's well looked after, just goes on and on and on.

0:39:380:39:41

I love the idea that something that has come down in the woods

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has got a new life and continuing in that way.

0:39:460:39:50

Working the oak in Ascot, like a seam of slate in the quarries of Blaenau Ffestiniog,

0:39:510:39:56

Nash created some important art here.

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A number of sculptures went to private collections.

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The Tate also acquired a large work

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and, another key piece, King and Queen, was made here.

0:40:040:40:09

Wood doesn't just mature and change.

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It is programmed to decay.

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At the Forest of Dean, David Nash was given the opportunity to explore this aspect of the nature of wood.

0:40:200:40:27

There are these extraordinary works that he has made, which have their own decay and destruction

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built into them, which is a radical idea, in terms of making art.

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You're going to make something that you know will not survive.

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They will rot, they go back into the ground, they become humus and it's all part of a cycle.

0:40:460:40:52

If you make a wooden table to have in your home,

0:40:520:40:56

you're borrowing the material out of that cycle,

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you bring it into your home and, then, if you put it back outside again, it'll go back into the cycle.

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We borrow this material and 90% of what I do is indoor work

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because there is longevity in the wood.

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This is where I like it to be seen.

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These indoor sculptures

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need to be seen indoors. What I do outside has to be very specific

0:41:190:41:23

to the circumstances of where it's sited.

0:41:230:41:28

The outdoor sculptures, with circumstances, like the Black Dome

0:41:280:41:31

in the Forest of Dean, there was charcoal burning there.

0:41:310:41:34

That gave me a clue about charred wood having something to do with

0:41:340:41:39

the burning and the charcoal fires that domed.

0:41:390:41:42

I made a charred wood dome.

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900 pieces of larch - public place.

0:41:460:41:49

I was warned that we had to secure it in.

0:41:490:41:53

Every bit's is wired to the next bit, so they can't be pulled out.

0:41:530:41:56

What I wouldn't anticipated was people walking on it.

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After two years, it was worn and looked like a stroked cat.

0:41:590:42:05

Then there was the health and safety issue.

0:42:050:42:08

To solve that problem we filled it with coal, which is a local material.

0:42:080:42:12

So, it's had an evolution.

0:42:120:42:15

The clue was that if you put a sculpture like that in a public place, people will walk on it.

0:42:150:42:21

The next opportunity I had

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was in America, at the Laumeier Sculpture Park.

0:42:230:42:25

And actually work with the fact of people walking on it

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and eroding it.

0:42:280:42:30

That led on to the steps at Schoenthal, in Switzerland,

0:42:300:42:34

and the steps in the coal at the Yorkshire Sculpture Park.

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One of the new works Nash created for the Yorkshire Sculpture Park,

0:42:390:42:44

was the permanent piece, Black Steps -

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71 charred steps, embedded in a coal drift.

0:42:460:42:51

An allusion to the former local industry and the major source

0:42:510:42:54

of wealth in the coal seams that run underneath the park.

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Scorching, charring and burning have all been used by Nash to dramatic effect.

0:43:030:43:08

It makes sense that he wants to harness the forces of nature to make art.

0:43:170:43:23

His art is about nature and it is, literally, made out of nature.

0:43:230:43:26

As with a lot of other things that he does, it's about honing down all the possibilities

0:43:260:43:33

that he could do, in an era of utter freedom, where art can be anything you like.

0:43:330:43:38

Honing down, so what he does has consequence and is readable and coherent, even though it has

0:43:380:43:43

elements of light heartedness or elements of mystery and, indeed, sometimes elements of bafflement.

0:43:430:43:50

He wants to make all that convincing.

0:43:500:43:52

Saying "fire is a priority for me or air or water, because those

0:43:520:43:58

"are natural elements", he's not being a mystical or pretentious.

0:43:580:44:02

He's being marvellous and poetic,

0:44:020:44:06

but also there's a commonsense element to it.

0:44:060:44:08

It's a way of highlighting the theme of nature.

0:44:110:44:14

Charring requires focus and precision.

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As well as the element of danger

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to the artist and assistants,

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there's a great risk of destroying the sculpture.

0:44:200:44:24

When you have a wood sculpture, you see wood first, form second.

0:44:240:44:28

When it's black, you see form first...

0:44:310:44:35

..then the material.

0:44:370:44:39

Think of those burnt works, the smell of the charcoal

0:44:450:44:48

and the feel of charcoal, that thing that we're familiar with,

0:44:480:44:51

that density of it, which he's monumentalised, captured and isolated it.

0:44:510:44:56

You sense that burnt, dense, fiery, charcoal dead quality on a very deep level.

0:44:560:45:02

You enjoy that very much, so that you're seeing something,

0:45:020:45:06

a very particular form that is made out of burning, but you're feeling something.

0:45:060:45:13

You've got a combination of the mind and the senses and a sort of soulful response.

0:45:140:45:18

He's capitalising on that. He knows that is so.

0:45:180:45:21

He knows that we're equipped, as humans, to experience art in that way.

0:45:210:45:25

I would say that's operating in everything he does, but it's extreme in the charcoal and burnt things.

0:45:250:45:32

There's the level of smell, the level that we imagine

0:45:320:45:37

what it would be like to touch it,

0:45:370:45:38

even though we're not actually touching it.

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Scorching, charring and burning have all been used by Nash to dramatic effect.

0:45:470:45:52

In 2001, Nash created a powerful charred piece -

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a personal response to global events.

0:46:030:46:07

With 9/11...

0:46:080:46:09

..the television and the newspapers were just full of these images

0:46:110:46:18

and it was very powerful, particularly for me,

0:46:180:46:21

with the falling, that awful falling of those two towers,

0:46:210:46:26

this grinding, and the fact that there were people in there.

0:46:260:46:30

I was in the middle of a very big

0:46:310:46:34

three-block tower piece,

0:46:340:46:36

a big beech, and I cut a slice off the side squaring it.

0:46:360:46:41

The piece that came off looked like

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one of the images, which became a talisman of that event,

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these three spires of that structure, these new crosses, I call them.

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It only took a few cuts to make it.

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These images started pouring out.

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I felt it was completely separate

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and there was an emotional experience,

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which I hadn't had before in making it, because the whole of the world was feeling this.

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There was this pure response.

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I have always seen that as a separate body of work, certainly not for sale.

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Seeing them in the Yorkshire Sculpture Park, there's still

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that echo of that feeling that I had when I was making them.

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It's still there and they really do seem to speak to people.

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Many of Nash's sculptures

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ARE for sale and are seen in exhibitions around the world,

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where placement is part of the artist's craft.

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With a gallery show, the pieces together have to make sense together,

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because I'm doing it for whoever is coming in,

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to come into a particular atmosphere,

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in the spaces between the things, how they resonate off each other.

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There is a theatrical aspect to it, but they are, nonetheless, autonomous, individual objects,

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which in a commercial gallery sense, these are pieces that people can take into their own lives.

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Some collectors buy with an eye on the investment

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and that is an aspect of it, but the true collectors

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are the ones who just love art and they love to have it in their lives.

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To have three such simple elements

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caused me to say, "Wow!"

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The moment I saw them, across the pond in Wales, in the mist,

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it was just a "Wow!" I immediately started going through in my mind,

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"Where on my property could I give this incredible sculpture a perfect home?"

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I took quite some time to figure it out,

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because it's a very large piece and I don't have large, flat pieces

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of land waiting for a piece like that.

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Roger Evans is one of Nash's most enthusiastic collectors,

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shipping sculptures to his home in California.

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It's the subset of artists that are interested in real dialogue with a collector, such as myself,

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and, for those, I think they really enjoy

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understanding, on what level...

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..a collector, like me, responds to their work.

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Often, it is at a level that they haven't thought about,

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particularly for somebody who collects art

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in a non-intellectual way, such as myself.

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What they get from me in terms of feedback is raw emotion

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and I think people like David probably appreciate that a lot.

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Roger Evans has found that living with Nash's sculpture,

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the collector can connect with the work and feel part of the experience.

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In particular, some of the works that continue to live

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after they're made, the Crack and Warp pieces,

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the pieces that are still wet when they are finished,

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and depending on what local they end up residing in,

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they really do continue to have a life, as they dry and crack and move about.

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And there's a wonderful interaction, I've noticed, between the people that live with that work.

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The more time you spend looking at a great piece of art,

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the more you see in it - unlike wallpaper.

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Each of these responses to one of the pieces of art keeps

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enlarging the experience of living with that particular work.

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Oh, he is a cult figure, he has a huge following.

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Some of the people that come to his openings, I'm not sure

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I'd ever see them under any other circumstances, it's quite fantastic, really.

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You can tell they just engage instantly and the language of wood,

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that David does mention on many occasions, truly is its own.

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The United States is now not just a marketplace

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for Nash's works - it's a supplier of material.

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With magnificent species, such as eucalyptus, growing in abundance

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in California, trees regularly become available.

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And Nash has his scouts.

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As well as access to massive fallen trees, Evan's Wood Yard has the

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specialist expertise and equipment in this transatlantic partnership.

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I had the pleasure of meeting David for the first time,

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maybe three or four years ago. I didn't realise that we'd been

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building his candy store this whole time!

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But he did, as soon as he drove in.

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It is fascinating, in working with him, in that the conversation goes both ways.

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Sequoia trees have been growing for thousands of millennia in their forms,

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but now I walk in for a forest and I'll say, "My, that's a Nashy one, isn't it?"

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I tease him sometimes by calling him "the artomatic".

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What I mean by that is he

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lives it, breathes it.

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Every time, every moment of the day or night, it is always percolating.

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A massive eucalyptus is the latest large lump of wood that Evans has sourced for David Nash.

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The oculus block was formed out of a huge root and trunk -

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12 tonnes, 2.4 metres across and three metres high -

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four trees that fused together as they grew.

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Now it's being installed at Yorkshire Sculpture Park.

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He started making the table pieces in the early '70s and,

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in a sense, this is the largest and the most distinguished table piece of all.

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For me, it doesn't really need to symbolise anything.

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The thing is what it is.

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It could be nothing else in the world.

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I love that idea that David has brought together all of these different agencies

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and then to develop the equipment that was necessary to cut the edges from it,

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which were chainsaws, double-ended chainsaws, a motor at each end.

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There was about 20 feet of chain on those saws.

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Two guys holding the saws, so that they were on lifts,

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and as they came down the piece, they shaved off these edges

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and slicing of those pieces of wood in one go,

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so that you get this incredible surface.

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The chainsaw is just to make a straight cut, but also to be able to make one simple gesture.

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You can see the lines, the marks of the tool going uninterrupted

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across the face and to emphasise the simplicity

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of his minimal nature of his interventions into it.

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Almost how little it took, with the right insight, to make it into a sculpture.

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I don't know what the single element is that makes that Oculus work impressive.

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Maybe it's scale, because it's big, but a lot of works are big.

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Maybe it's the beauty of trees, anyway, but that's a common beauty.

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Maybe it's the flourish of the way he's created it,

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that it's so cleanly done and so unfussy.

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I think it's a combination of all those things and it's

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an example of that rare thing in art where you really feel

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it couldn't have been done any other way.

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It's beautiful, you like it, you'd be very happy to see it, repeatedly,

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very happy to come back to it and it lines up in one's mind,

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along with certain art experiences,

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that make you happy to be alive, in a rather uncomplicated way.

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There's a kind of calligraphy happening here,

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it's like a Zen calligraphy, where all of the idea, the intent

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and the physical process of making this work

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goes into this one, fluid moment.

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It's all very pragmatic and logical

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and technical and really thought through and worked out.

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The end result is something that's actually really poetic and really beautiful.

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And I love it for all of those reasons.

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On May 28th, 2010,

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David Nash at Yorkshire Sculpture Park opened.

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A very significant exhibition, bringing together

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Nash's past and present,

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providing a platform to launch into his future.

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He's an artist who connects to very many moments in the history

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of culture, where nature is exalted and the relationship between mankind and nature is urgent and important.

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Artists don't retire. People retire to be artists.

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It's just a question of deepening the work.

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My attempt at making an epic statement with the towers is as though the room is the tower

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and the exhibition at the Yorkshire Sculpture Park is really that tower,

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but I'm not trying to do everything in one piece.

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I've separated the ideas out.

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When you're young, you're going to have a lot of ideas coming at you, but just get them in there,

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put them in, don't worry about whether they relate to each other.

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The ideas are so precious, you have to touch on them in some way and you

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have the rest of your life to sort it out. That's what I've been doing.

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The Yorkshire Sculpture Park is a show of how what I've sorted out from those initial years.

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I think in your 60s, 70s and on, this is a time for being very clear.

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