Teenage Kicks: The Search for Sophistication


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This film was made originally about three years ago.

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It's a film with none of the usual experts or statistics in it.

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It's simply an attempt to set down, without comment,

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the lives and opinions of five teenagers.

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I suppose, as a teenager, you were looking for sophistication,

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but you didn't know that that's what you were looking for.

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They've all got at least one thing in common. They're all on threshold,

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they're all about to struggle through into adult life.

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My sort of teenage aspiration was to be...chic.

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I wanted to be everything that I wasn't, really.

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-Lady Lewisham, what do you think about our teenagers?

-They're splendid.

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This is us, see? We're today.

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Definitely had aspirations to be sophisticated,

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but always felt that I fell somewhat short of the mark.

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I think you were looking for a place in the world, in a way.

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"Where do I belong? Where do I fit in here?"

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"And I'm clearly not a proper adult and I'm not a child any more."

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Probably when he were a lad, to have a quiff and short at the sides

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and bloody big drapes and everything and velvet collar,

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that were probably outrageous then.

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I think you were this innocent being led into this world, primarily by the media and advertising.

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-Pint of Babycham.

-Denim deodorant.

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Peter Stuyvesant fags were exotic.

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-The bottle of Blue Nun.

-Ferrero Rocher, is it a terrible advert?

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I was influenced by the Gold Blend couple.

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-I've run out of coffee.

-Come in.

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And it was the lifestyle that you wanted,

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but it isn't the lifestyle that I got.

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It's that journey into investigating...

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..that made it so painful, in a way.

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You've only got to look and listen

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to be quite sure that all these young people have got hep.

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They're most definitely with it.

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This is a high-class joint, but everywhere

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the cats have their own little places

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where they live the gospel that this is the age of the teenager.

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Being a teenager is something I think you're only aware of afterwards.

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But there wasn't much of a demand made on you.

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It was kind of a licence to discover.

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# Why don't they understand? #

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And of course the world we lived in was still relatively innocent.

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My ambition in life is to be famous,

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-but I'm not quite sure.

-Well, my ambition is to be rich.

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if you've got money, you got everything, haven't you?

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As a teenager, I suppose you were examining nearly everything you did.

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You were thinking, "Well, OK, how am I going to look? What am I going to wear?

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"How am I presenting myself to the world?"

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And that's the time, probably when you're the teenager, when it's the strongest.

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Teenagers, guys and dolls, can be trained in a few weeks to earn £8 or £10 a week.

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The shops know it, so every town has a store with teenage departments, thriving on giving

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the young people the fashions they demand, distinctive teenage fashions.

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Teenagers are incredibly important as a market, because of their influence,

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because of the fact that they're generally leading-edge,

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they adopt much earlier, they adopt brands earlier,

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and interestingly, on the whole, they can find a fair bit of disposable income off their parents.

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So the pester power and the desire to purchase comes at that age.

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The gramophone industry cashes in on the well-off teenagers to some tune.

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80% of the disc output is bought by the youngsters.

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That's 50 million records a year in Britain alone.

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All industry knows that to please the teenagers is the golden way to big dividends.

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When the coffee houses suddenly appeared,

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I mean, this was like from Mars, you know, to the likes of me.

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That was a place to go when you were young, not to the pub.

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You'd meet in coffee houses with these wonderfully noisy machines

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that go, "Pch-ch-ch..."

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It would make a hell of a din.

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And to go out just with another friend, a young person, that was also quite sophisticated, because

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you really felt you'd arrived, you were a proper adult by then.

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And to go into a coffee house, we did feel that, you know, we were now living,

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this was living.

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It was full of young people, and so, you know, you felt you were in

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an adult world but there weren't any fuddy-duddies around.

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A square in the wrong hole is just not dug, even by the jukebox.

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I remember another one called the Macabre.

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The tables were supposed to be coffins, all black, and it was very dark inside.

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Oh, look, they have the Grave, the Dead March and the Danse Macabre.

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Oh, that sounds ever so nice.

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And it would take about three hours to get through one cup of coffee, because there was nowhere else to go.

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We'd go, and we'd sit there with a black coffee in a clear cup.

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And we'd sit with it, and we'd pose with it. The coffee was the star.

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DOORBELL RINGS

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I'm not sure if I was consciously aiming

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for sophistication, but looking back,

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that was absolutely the dream,

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not to feel like a teenager,

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but to feel like you were one of the people like the Gold Blend woman,

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who was the absolute icon of sophistication.

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She always had the most amazing earrings,

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and her hair was always perfect, and you wanted

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to be her, and everything she said, she sort of did that

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for everything she said.

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She couldn't say anything without doing that, and nor could he,

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and there was about eight meanings to what they said,

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and the main meaning was, "Make me coffee."

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If this were a restaurant, they'd be putting chairs on tables.

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And I'd be asking you back to my place for coffee.

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But of course, I wouldn't accept.

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Gold Blend?

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-I could be persuaded.

-There was a level of sophistication around

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that kind of whole '80s look of a couple getting together, the dinner parties, the friends,

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and frankly the premium coffee playing a key role

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in that relationship that made it just feel very real in that era.

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And I think we've all got to remember that at the time, you know, there used to the Dallas parties.

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People used to go to people's houses, and every time Sue Ellen had a drink,

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so did you, that was part of the game.

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God, they were the world's most boring couple, weren't they?

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If you think about it, the only thing they could speak to each other about was coffee.

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-Pity I have to leave.

-Leave?

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I'm on the first flight to Milan in the morning.

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-That's terrible.

-Why?

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They don't serve Gold Blend in Milan.

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I guess it was successful to its target audience, which was people

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who were actually buying coffee, but I was 13, I didn't like coffee.

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But even now, it gives me a bit of a shiver of,

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"Oh, Gold Blend, that's quite sophisticated."

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At the end of the day, the Gold Blend couple is about a couple meeting,

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getting together, having a romance and the whole,

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"Will they? Won't they?"

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Which got on every national newspaper.

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For my GCSE French, we had to learn the Gold Blend adverts in French.

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We had to translate them and learn them in French

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and perform them to the parents, who must have been a bit bemused,

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standing in the language lab as we were all there with massive hair

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doing, "Je voudrais Gold Blend."

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I forgot to say, I'll be in New York.

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I hope you remembered to take some Gold Blend with you.

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The BT couple are the only sort of modern equivalent that has come close to it,

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but if you look at them, their lives are really quite mundane.

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The BT couple also suffer from the fact that there are 400 channels, if you include all the Sky channels.

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In the Gold Blend couple day,

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there were probably four channels, and you always got to see it.

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It became like a soap opera in the truest sense of one,

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which you could follow week after week and month after month.

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Disappointing, isn't it?

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No teenagers are going to be doing those BT adverts as part of their GCSE French.

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I don't know why I let you do that.

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-Because I s...

-You serve better coffee.

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Besides...I love you.

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One was influenced by everything, really, because the thing about being

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a teenager is that you spend most of your time feeling uncomfortable,

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not happy in your skin.

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Whoever you were wasn't who you wanted to be,

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so, er...if you saw an advert where the guy was on top of everything,

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you emulated him, you acted that out.

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Being a teenager was about fulfilling the fantasies one had about what it would be like to be grown-up.

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There was always those people who were slightly older who seemed

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to have it down, who seemed to be in control,

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because that's what I wanted, I wanted to be in control.

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Stuff was going on that really one just couldn't handle.

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One's body was exploding all the time,

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because it kept betraying you in quite difficult ways.

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# All I want my body

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# All I want my body

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# All I want my body... #

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I wish I was two inches small and had a smaller mouth.

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I wish I could change my whole appearance so people wouldn't say I look like my sister.

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I wish my hair didn't grow so quick, because then I wouldn't have to go and get it cut all the time.

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If I could change my appearance, I'd make myself four inches taller,

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my top lip smaller and my thighs thinner.

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There's that moment when you think, "Oh, I could...

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"Yeah, I could appear older,

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"I want to appear older than everybody else.

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"I want to seem worldly wise."

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You're kind of playing with identities.

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I remember I went through a phase of carrying a newspaper under my arm,

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because I wanted to give off this slightly intellectual look.

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I know adults do that now with the Wall Street Journal and the FT, because they want to give off

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a certain image, but I used to do it with the Wolverhampton Ad News,

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which was this free newspaper. And I'd walk around,

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I wanted people to think I was someone who read newspapers.

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Occasionally, I'd buy a copy of GQ or Esquire or something, thinking,

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"Yeah, well, it's about time I started just changing the way

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"I did things. So what do I need to do?

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"I need to buy some different pants, and it says here I need to get

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"quite an expensive thing to cut my nails with. I must do that."

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So you're looking at... You know, it's ludicrous.

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If you're a sort of podgy boy at school in Rutland,

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looking at this thing going,

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"So I need to lose quite a lot of weight and work out a lot,

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"and then I could maybe rent a house with a swimming pool,

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"and then I would definitely use some sort of Davidoff aftershave.

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"If I've shaved. I'll use it without shaving.

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"I don't care, I'm still a maverick. I'm young enough."

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You'll become yourself.

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You'll find success.

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Old Spice. The classic fragrance.

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The mark of a man.

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Toiletries for men were something new after the war

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in the '50s and particularly in the '60s,

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and the '70s really brought that fulfilment together.

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There was clearly that era which said, actually,

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it's got to be hyper-masculine and an aspirational male audience,

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because, obviously, you want no connotation of any femininity

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in smelling nice or doing any kind of grooming at all.

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And I think it's quite interesting that actually people believed it.

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I mean, the sales in those days,

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mainly at Christmas, I think there was

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a lot of Christmas activity, you know, buy your double pack

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of Old Spice for the Christmas stocking.

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And that was kind of how it was bought. It was not bought as a regular purchase.

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His antiperspirant? New Brut 33.

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The one that I remember from my youth was, "Splash it all over!" Yeah?

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Brut! Masculine, manly!

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Men who get roughed up for a living stay well-groomed with new Brut 33,

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Faberge's new range of toiletries, all with that great smell of Brut.

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It was the kind of Sweeney of aftershaves.

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You're so butch, I mean you've got Henry Cooper,

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and who was that footballer with the poodle haircut?

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Kevin Keegan! You see, obviously about as masculine as you could get.

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And it came with this rather phallic bottle, I seem to remember,

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which suggests to you that if you wear it,

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the woman will look at you and see also a phallic symbol

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and, therefore, she's yours.

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And I mean, male grooming is a serious old area, especially if you're on the pull.

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I mean, clearly, it's a key part of your upbringing, where you look for the brands that you aspire to.

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Nothing beats a good workout, Henry.

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And nothing beats the great smell of Brut.

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Oh, yeah! Splash it on all over, Henry.

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Here, how would you like to be in a Brut commercial?

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Cor, fame at last!

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Brut 33 Splash-on -

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for the body beautiful.

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All the young boys always smelt of Brut,

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and even now, if I smelt it now,

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it would take me back straightaway to discos and things, you know.

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The sophistication in marketing has changed dramatically.

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If you go back and you watch a lot of the advertising from the '80s,

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what you will find is it's kind of quite macho.

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It does live in a world of, you know, "All because the lady loves Milk Tray."

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I mean, this guy who acts like James Bond and ends up on a boat and puts

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down the Milk Tray, and you never see the woman, you just see her hand.

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You know, through to Denim and some of the aftershave advertising,

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which is all because the man doesn't have to try too hard.

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What does that mean? The woman has to?

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A big disaster I made was to buy...

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er...Denim deodorant.

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When a woman puts Denim on her man...

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It aroused so many complaints.

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..he knows

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that the more she puts on...

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..the more life...takes off.

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Denim.

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For men who don't have to try too hard.

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Of all the things I've done in my life, that is the thing

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I felt was most strongly complained about by the people around me, which is the horrendous smell.

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Being a teenager, there was this battle going on with, you know,

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you were kind of grubby and dirty,

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but then you'd get round it, rather than by washing,

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by spraying a load of stuff all over you.

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That was the thing, this lethal combination

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of dried sweat and Blue Stratos deodorant.

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Taking poor girls out, the cocktail of stuff must have been...

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You were fermenting.

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I used to really lay it on.

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You could smell me coming from about three streets away,

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you know, and when you left, you left this after smell.

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I mean, you could kind of follow it, you know, and people

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could dip into it and think, "Oh, he's just been here, I see."

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The first perfume I would sort of have got for myself

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would have been Charlie.

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Every single girl at school, I was at a girls' school,

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we all used to sing the Charlie ad, which I'm sure,

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looking back, was directed at 13 and 14-year-old girls,

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because who else is going to buy that stuff?

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# There's a fragrance...

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# That's here today And they call it Charlie

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# A different fragrance that thinks your way

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# And they call it Charlie... #

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And that was the first perfume which...

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There's a bit of rebellion here,

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because it was something your mum wouldn't have known about,

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couldn't relate to a perfume called Charlie, that's a boy's name.

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And I remember the girl who was in the advert, a very pretty blonde girl,

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and she wore trousers, which was quite unusual,

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because most adverts for perfume, the girl always had nice dresses on.

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And I remember the thing that stands out about that advert

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is the way she is walking with a long stride,

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so she looked like a girl who was going places.

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And that must have had some sort of effect on me,

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because I rushed into our local House of Fraser and bought a bottle.

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I think often brands do a really good job

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of showing an aspirational lifestyle you'd like to have and, therefore,

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you want to become part of it. And by becoming part of it,

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even if it's not directly targeted to you and you're slightly young,

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you'll probably remember it enough to go, "That's the one for me."

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You're just buying into the product, aren't you?

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You might not be able to afford all the things that she had,

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but by spraying a bit of the perfume on,

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you've just got a little bit of it, haven't you?

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In a man's world,

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a woman needs a lovely flawless complexion,

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needs Camay - for the skin men can't ignore.

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Feel it in the lather, creamy smooth,

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creamy rich.

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Parisian perfume worth nine guineas an ounce.

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Oh, Camay, you'd think would make you...

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Well, it was bound to, because there were all these glamorous women applying it to their skin

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and looking brilliant, so if you were to buy it,

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you hopefully would end up looking the same as they did.

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This could be you when you care for your skin

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with the world's most luxurious beauty soap.

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It had a little song and it said,

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"You'll be a little lovelier each day, with fabulous pink Camay."

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They brought out the "pink".

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Careful! That's very valuable.

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It's real porcelain, isn't it? So smooth and delicate. It's beautiful.

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Like...like your complexion.

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-Oh. Do you think so?

-Yes.

-Like porcelain.

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It must be Camay, with moisturising cream.

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For lather so creamy, you'd think it came from a jar.

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When you saw women on adverts who were sort of doing that into the mirror.

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I remember actually pretending that there was a camera

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in the mirror, and sort of saying -

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because it was all Body Shop stuff I would use, cucumber cleansing milk -

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"So with this cucumber cleansing milk I'd just sort of rub it on my cheeks

0:18:370:18:41

"and get a lather up," and because you felt like

0:18:410:18:43

you couldn't just wash your face, because women in adverts didn't

0:18:430:18:46

just wash their faces, they went like that, and then got a lather on their cheeks.

0:18:460:18:50

They didn't do their T-zone. It was just on the nice bit of their cheeks, that were all smooth.

0:18:500:18:54

Camay will take your skin out of the shadows and bring your loveliness to life.

0:18:540:18:59

Just pretending you were in an advert all the time.

0:18:590:19:01

It was so important to feel like you were in an advert.

0:19:010:19:04

Yeah. I'd forgotten about that.

0:19:040:19:06

I like watching the adverts because they're a form of entertainment in themselves.

0:19:060:19:10

I know that they are a con and a lot of the adverts have got nothing

0:19:100:19:13

to do with what they're selling, but I like watching them.

0:19:130:19:16

Advertising was annoyingly influential.

0:19:160:19:20

Adverts mean a way of life to me, because the whole world seems to be

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run by adverts, and advertising is a big business in the world today.

0:19:230:19:26

And particularly as a teenager in the '70s,

0:19:260:19:30

when that medium of television hadn't been around that long.

0:19:300:19:35

I mean, I can remember being at school, and somebody saying to you,

0:19:350:19:41

"Have you got BBC Two?"

0:19:410:19:43

You know, just to have two BBC channels was quite sophisticated.

0:19:430:19:49

So it brought with it,

0:19:490:19:51

TV advertising came with a kind of kudos already built in.

0:19:510:19:56

So it was already quite sophisticated to some extent to have

0:19:560:19:59

seen an advert on television and be able to talk about it.

0:19:590:20:02

Ask any woman why she selects Imperial Leather

0:20:040:20:07

and she'll tell you it costs a little more, but it lasts so much longer.

0:20:070:20:11

I was led very much by my mother in this, because she bought this

0:20:110:20:15

thing, I think it was Cussons Imperial Leather.

0:20:150:20:18

And I think what was impressive about this is it had a little label on it, so that instead of having

0:20:180:20:24

soap that stuck to the side of the bath when it got wet,

0:20:240:20:27

this was so sophisticated that you - I remember she showed me,

0:20:270:20:30

look, you put it down like that,

0:20:300:20:32

and with the label thing on it, and then it doesn't stick.

0:20:320:20:35

And I thought that's just fantastic.

0:20:350:20:38

And the great thing about that brand is the way the branding survives

0:20:380:20:43

even though you keep on using it.

0:20:430:20:45

I remember when I was young, I had very strict parents.

0:20:450:20:50

I was allowed to do so very little.

0:20:500:20:52

When Diane got to early teenage, I suddenly remembered my own youth,

0:20:520:20:56

and how strict my parents were, and how I used to come in late at night,

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and rub off my make-up,

0:21:010:21:02

rather than let my mother see it, which was entirely wrong.

0:21:020:21:06

Teenagers are a relatively new thing anyway.

0:21:060:21:09

There was a time when you just went from being a kid to being at work.

0:21:090:21:13

My father went to work at 12.

0:21:130:21:15

My mother went to work at 14.

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He wasn't a teenager.

0:21:180:21:20

He was a child and then he was a grown-up.

0:21:200:21:22

My older siblings kind of left school and went to work, and so I was...

0:21:220:21:27

in this neither here nor there land where you were given the luxury of exploring a bit.

0:21:270:21:34

You know, pushing the envelope of leaving childhood and becoming an independent adult.

0:21:340:21:39

So I guess it was... It was like a big playground,

0:21:390:21:43

and the world was something you could explore.

0:21:430:21:46

We were set going with the most extraordinary wind of optimism.

0:21:530:21:57

# Well I told you once and I told you twice... #

0:21:570:22:01

I think the absolute classic difference between somewhere round my generation

0:22:010:22:07

is that for previous generations, being sophisticated was being more like your parents.

0:22:070:22:11

But for us being sophisticated was being completely different from our parents.

0:22:110:22:15

I've met very many teenagers up and down the country

0:22:150:22:18

when I have been travelling around,

0:22:180:22:20

and I've been always particularly struck by their enthusiasm about everything, by their new ideas.

0:22:200:22:26

After all, one must remember the extraordinary things that

0:22:260:22:30

ones parents and grandparents did,

0:22:300:22:32

all their latest crazes, which seem to us just as extraordinary now.

0:22:320:22:36

I think that most teenagers,

0:22:360:22:38

you either want to make an entrance or you want to absolutely disappear.

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And you'd be caught between those two things, I think.

0:22:420:22:46

But I think, as a teenager, what I wanted more than anything was to be noticed.

0:22:460:22:53

There was an advert that said you were never alone with a Strand,

0:22:530:22:58

and in a way, it's true. You weren't.

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You had a friend, and the friend was the cigarette, and the cigarette

0:23:010:23:06

was again a sign of maturity.

0:23:060:23:09

I smoked because one had to.

0:23:120:23:16

Again, it was about image.

0:23:160:23:20

You're never alone with a Strand.

0:23:200:23:22

The cigarette of the moment.

0:23:220:23:24

Strand, the new tipped cigarette.

0:23:240:23:27

Wonderful value at three and tuppence for 20.

0:23:270:23:30

Everyone was smoking in those days.

0:23:320:23:34

You'd go to party and it was kind of fog.

0:23:340:23:37

We didn't know the dangers of smoke.

0:23:370:23:39

We never even thought about it. Smoking was just to look grown-up.

0:23:390:23:43

I didn't even like the taste very much.

0:23:430:23:45

But if you had a cigarette, you looked like a woman,

0:23:450:23:47

you looked like a movie star for five minutes.

0:23:470:23:50

Now you take the two cigarettes...

0:23:500:23:52

MUSIC STARTS

0:23:520:23:54

# Da-da-da, de-da-dum... #

0:23:540:23:57

We can't go on meeting like this.

0:23:580:24:00

My dear, it was perfect!

0:24:000:24:02

APPLAUSE

0:24:020:24:03

I seem to remember on certain talk shows that were around then, that

0:24:080:24:12

actors and actresses would come on talk shows, smoking away, puffing away.

0:24:120:24:16

That was seen as the norm and you had to be one of the gang.

0:24:160:24:18

I didn't really like it. I just did it to fit in.

0:24:180:24:20

The staff of the school believe that if you blindly

0:24:200:24:24

forbid children to do something, then they will certainly revolt.

0:24:240:24:27

The answer is to allow them to find out for themselves whether these conventions are good or bad.

0:24:270:24:32

Besides which, smoking calms the nerves.

0:24:320:24:35

Smoking seemed very sophisticated.

0:24:350:24:37

I was at a boarding school, so like a couple of you

0:24:370:24:39

would pull some pounds together and think, "We'll go and get some cigarettes."

0:24:390:24:43

All round Burgess Hill School are woods and extensive grounds.

0:24:430:24:47

Here, without danger or worry to anyone, the youngsters run and play.

0:24:470:24:50

You'd go and try and hide in yet another bush somewhere, light cigarettes and then

0:24:500:24:56

take two or three drags, and your head is filled with the most heaviest, blackest smoke,

0:24:560:25:00

and you'd spend the rest of the afternoon vomiting on a playing field,

0:25:000:25:04

or desperately waiting for the fog to clear.

0:25:040:25:06

Then, of course, there are those idyllic scenes of people at leisure

0:25:060:25:10

we get in all those film advertisements for drink or for cigarettes.

0:25:100:25:15

Capture spring's exciting freshness in Consulate.

0:25:200:25:23

The cool cigarette.

0:25:230:25:25

The sort of logo was cool as a mountain stream, and you felt,

0:25:250:25:29

"Oh, this is, you know, this is great!" If you're going to have

0:25:290:25:32

something that's so sophisticated you feel as if you're in perhaps the Alps, or something.

0:25:320:25:37

I think the taste was eucalyptus. It was quite vile actually.

0:25:370:25:40

Menthol cigarettes. Cool. Clear.

0:25:440:25:48

Fresh as a mountain stream.

0:25:480:25:52

I think now, infinitely less aspirational is people

0:25:560:26:00

start to look at smoking as being pretty horrible, does kill you.

0:26:000:26:04

In the days of the Strand, no-one really knew if it killed you and you didn't care.

0:26:040:26:08

You wanted to look cool. Looking cool was more important,

0:26:080:26:11

hence why everyone smoked Sobranie Cocktail.

0:26:110:26:14

Sobranies were incredibly sophisticated.

0:26:180:26:21

That do I remember.

0:26:210:26:22

So whoever marketed them did manage to make us think, "Ooh..."

0:26:220:26:26

Even though men with moustaches were smoking them, you definitely

0:26:260:26:29

thought that was quite hip, and when they brought out the coloured ones,

0:26:290:26:34

that was just a work of genius.

0:26:340:26:36

Sobranie Cocktail, which was the most ridiculous

0:26:360:26:38

multi-coloured cigarette ever, that cost a ridiculous amount of money.

0:26:380:26:41

You had a pink one and a green one.

0:26:410:26:44

It was endlessly entertaining deciding which one you were going to choose.

0:26:440:26:48

Sobranie was hilarious, because it was one of those slightly odd brands.

0:26:480:26:51

They did Sobranie Black and Sobranie Cocktail.

0:26:510:26:54

Cocktail were the multi-coloured ones and they had a gold tip.

0:26:540:26:57

I mean, it really was the ultimate kind of show off cigarette!

0:26:570:27:01

I went to the Millets annual dinner dance, which was a fantastic event.

0:27:010:27:07

You've got to imagine a country of Saturday boys and area managers

0:27:070:27:11

doing their best to dress up and dancing to the Ray McVay Orchestra.

0:27:110:27:15

I thought, "I'm going to be sophisticated for this,"

0:27:150:27:17

so I had what passed for a dinner suit and I bought a box of Sobranie Black Russian fags - pure class.

0:27:170:27:23

Blew it, though, as I only had to a box of matches with me,

0:27:230:27:26

so the effect was somewhat deleted, but...

0:27:260:27:28

I thought that was sophisticated. But you'd never do it

0:27:280:27:31

on a day-to-day basis, because you'd just look iffy, wouldn't you?

0:27:310:27:34

But with a DJ on - class.

0:27:340:27:37

That's when you're most susceptible to advertising.

0:27:370:27:39

Things that you think, "This is perfect.

0:27:390:27:41

"This will make me happy.

0:27:410:27:43

"I must like it, or I must appear to like it.

0:27:430:27:45

"I mustn't mention to people that actually this is disgusting."

0:27:450:27:48

I didn't smoke, actually.

0:27:480:27:50

I was one of the few people that didn't actually go along with the smoking thing.

0:27:500:27:57

I must have somehow had the wherewithal to realise

0:27:570:28:01

it wasn't a very good idea to create a habit.

0:28:010:28:04

"They're not very good for you. Oh, I'll have some of them."

0:28:040:28:07

But I would do loads of other things that weren't good for you like try and drink too much.

0:28:070:28:12

Alcohol of any sort, I suppose, you'd find terribly sophisticated.

0:28:180:28:22

By the time you've got into your 30s, you've already known two or three people whose lives

0:28:220:28:27

or careers have already been wrecked by the stuff.

0:28:270:28:29

# Ever and ever For ever and ever

0:28:290:28:33

# You'll be the one... #

0:28:330:28:35

As a teenager there was this sense that the drunker you got, the more sophisticated you got.

0:28:350:28:40

If you spend a lot of time in many bars in the City, you realise some people carry that attitude

0:28:400:28:46

for the whole of their trading career.

0:28:460:28:48

-Would you like a drink?

-Yes, please.

-What would you like?

0:28:480:28:51

-Bacardi and Coke, please.

-Ice and lemon?

0:28:510:28:52

-Yes, please.

-Great. Angela?

0:28:520:28:54

-Have you got gin?

-Gin and tonic?

0:28:540:28:56

-Please.

-Ice and lemon?

-Yes, please.

0:28:560:28:58

Great. Lawrence, would you like to get the drinks, please?

0:28:580:29:02

Buying a Bacardi and Coke,

0:29:020:29:04

that was the drink, because that was pure sophistication. The bat,

0:29:040:29:09

conjures up images of the Caribbean,

0:29:090:29:11

you can knock it back fairly quickly,

0:29:110:29:12

you don't mind the taste with Coke in it and it did say class to me.

0:29:120:29:15

As a word, what is Bacardi? I don't know. But that was really good.

0:29:150:29:19

Just drinking a litre of cider from a plastic bottle and things like that, and it's a Saturday afternoon

0:29:190:29:24

and you're sitting under a hedge and every five or six seconds just sticking your head out to see

0:29:240:29:30

if anyone's noticed that you're there, and yet deep down there's part of you thinking,

0:29:300:29:36

"Yeah, this is pretty grown-up.

0:29:360:29:37

"Just us and the White Lightning, the sound of the rain."

0:29:370:29:40

The first drink I ever had was a Babycham

0:29:400:29:45

in one of those shallow glasses

0:29:450:29:47

with a cherry on top.

0:29:470:29:50

Oh, gosh, to take that glass

0:29:520:29:54

in your hand, you know, and hold it by the stem.

0:29:540:29:58

It felt so grown-up.

0:29:580:30:01

Babycham was like the first alcopops.

0:30:010:30:03

It was the first one ever to sit in that market of very young drinkers,

0:30:030:30:07

didn't have a high alcohol content,

0:30:070:30:10

was quite fun and used what was in essence a Bambi character in cartoon.

0:30:100:30:14

We'd never, ever, ever be allowed to do that again.

0:30:140:30:18

There's a world of magic in a glass of Babycham.

0:30:180:30:21

A world of magic.

0:30:210:30:24

And it almost became too popular.

0:30:240:30:27

So by the time that we get through to the '70s

0:30:270:30:30

and particularly the '80s,

0:30:300:30:32

it had lost the momentum because it was associated with being a bit old-fashioned.

0:30:320:30:36

What would you like to drink, darling?

0:30:360:30:38

Oh, I'd love a Babycham.

0:30:380:30:40

I think the rebranding of Babycham and trying to appeal to men as well

0:30:420:30:46

as women was probably the moment with the death knell in the brand.

0:30:460:30:51

I think then you kind of go, "My God, you really are struggling."

0:30:510:30:54

Hey, I'd love a Babycham.

0:30:540:30:57

CROWD MUTTERS

0:30:570:30:59

Babycham. I want one.

0:31:000:31:02

Hey, Babycham.

0:31:020:31:04

The last throw of the dice - and I can imagine sitting in the room

0:31:040:31:07

at the time - was people going, "Hey, let's go for men as well.

0:31:070:31:10

"Why wouldn't we? We might be able to double the sales because there'll be more people involved."

0:31:100:31:15

And men went, "I'm not drinking that. I'd be an idiot."

0:31:150:31:18

I just would not have a Babycham.

0:31:180:31:22

That would mean your mates would leave you at the bar.

0:31:220:31:25

That's just not... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:31:250:31:29

No, no, no, no.

0:31:290:31:31

My mother, she certainly had an eye for sophistication in booze.

0:31:360:31:39

She'd have anything coloured in a bottle because obviously it was more sophisticated.

0:31:390:31:43

It wasn't that kind of grey or brown or beige

0:31:430:31:46

and it was different for that reason.

0:31:460:31:49

How else can you explain Advocaat?

0:31:490:31:52

It's a bit like getting drunk on custard.

0:31:520:31:54

It was absolutely revolting.

0:31:540:31:57

Whose idea was it to make alcohol with egg? Ohh!

0:31:570:32:02

But when I had the money, I bought it. I bought Advocaat.

0:32:020:32:06

Tried it and then I realised no.

0:32:060:32:08

-Did you bring that, Sue?

-Yes.

0:32:080:32:10

-Is it for us?

-Yes.

0:32:100:32:13

Oh, thank you, Sue.

0:32:130:32:15

Oh, it's nothing very special, I'm afraid.

0:32:150:32:17

Oh, isn't that kind, Ange?

0:32:170:32:20

-Yes.

-Oh, lovely, because Laurence likes a drop of wine, actually, yeah.

0:32:200:32:25

Oh, fantastic, it's Beaujolais.

0:32:250:32:27

Lovely. I won't be a sec. I'll just pop it in the fridge, OK?

0:32:270:32:30

Wine was difficult because...

0:32:300:32:34

..it asked for a degree of knowledge that really I didn't have

0:32:350:32:39

at the time, so you stuck with things that looked

0:32:390:32:43

possibly good and you tended to go by the label.

0:32:430:32:47

And, you know, if it was relatively cheap,

0:32:470:32:51

you know, one was a student.

0:32:510:32:54

Most people probably didn't know which wine to buy, so if you didn't know whether it was going to be

0:32:540:32:58

white or whether it was going to be red, it was safe to buy Mateus Rose.

0:32:580:33:03

Run away home tonight with Mateus,

0:33:030:33:07

a rose wine that's like a trip to Portugal.

0:33:070:33:10

Portugal. Climb the cobbled streets of yesterday in Obidos,

0:33:120:33:17

lunch in the shade of medieval walls on native cheese and wine, Mateus Rose.

0:33:170:33:22

# Hey, hey, hey Mateus Rose. #

0:33:220:33:27

Bring it on home.

0:33:270:33:30

The whole purpose to drink Mateus Rose was purely to get the bottle,

0:33:310:33:35

so you could make a lamp out of the bottle.

0:33:350:33:37

So it was a nice thing to have

0:33:370:33:38

in the corner of the room, I guess, in the '70s.

0:33:380:33:41

If you wanted to be a bit more sophisticated,

0:33:410:33:43

it would definitely be Cinzano and lemonade, I think.

0:33:430:33:45

-Ah, buona sera.

-Good evening, sir.

0:33:450:33:47

-What can I get you?

-Do you have the Cinzano of some sort, por favor?

0:33:470:33:51

Yes, sir. There is Cinzano Rosso, Secco, Bianco and new Rose.

0:33:510:33:54

Oh, the complete set. Somebody must have told you I was coming.

0:33:540:33:58

I'll have a Cinzano Bianco.

0:33:580:34:00

The Cinzano ads, I think, had two parts.

0:34:000:34:02

One was obviously Joan Collins, very glamorous, and Leonard Rossiter was slightly chaotic.

0:34:020:34:08

And Martin did a lot of that contradicting people.

0:34:080:34:13

So you had the slight idiot playing off someone who was very sophisticated.

0:34:130:34:17

-Hello.

-Melissa, darling. You're early. Would you like a Cinzano?

0:34:170:34:21

No, thank you, I've just had one.

0:34:210:34:23

Theirs was one of the most famous because, of course,

0:34:230:34:27

whatever happened, he sort of won.

0:34:270:34:30

I just ordered our traditional drink, Cinzano Bianco.

0:34:300:34:33

Oh, a fusion of superb Italian wines and aromatic herbs.

0:34:330:34:37

One of our most refined European customs. Aah!

0:34:370:34:41

Oh. Ha!

0:34:410:34:45

I think they like you, Marisa.

0:34:450:34:47

My mum's a big fan of Cinzano, although she says "Sin-zano".

0:34:470:34:49

My mum's quite posh, but if she was here now,

0:34:490:34:52

she would absolutely swear that it is "Sin-zano".

0:34:520:34:56

One of the highlights for me about exoticism and international travel

0:34:560:35:01

was seeing Leonard Rossiter, who was a huge star at the time,

0:35:010:35:05

and Joan Collins, obviously a glamorous star.

0:35:050:35:08

Not only were they drinking this particular drink, they were on a plane. Oh, my God!

0:35:080:35:13

Your Cinzano Bianco, Senora.

0:35:130:35:16

-Thank you.

-Ah, yes. Gracias.

0:35:160:35:18

-Ah, due?

-No, no, no, mine was a Cinzano as well.

0:35:180:35:21

Some of that humour did sort of prick the pomposity

0:35:210:35:25

of the era and I think that was quite a clever way of doing it.

0:35:250:35:27

I'm being boring. Oh, sorry.

0:35:270:35:30

Sorry.

0:35:300:35:32

Getting your head down, sweetie? Jolly good idea.

0:35:320:35:35

You know, if you were on a plane - this is before easyJet.

0:35:350:35:38

People don't go on planes just to fly somewhere.

0:35:380:35:40

God, that's really decadent.

0:35:400:35:42

Before the war, of course, there was relatively no foreign travel for most of us.

0:35:470:35:52

It was only in the '50s that that tantalising new world of Europe

0:35:520:35:57

actually really came on to the scene.

0:35:570:36:00

And certainly then by the '60s, the package holiday industry was really picking up.

0:36:000:36:05

# We can fly

0:36:050:36:08

# We can fly... #

0:36:080:36:11

For ordinary people, it's not only more sensible,

0:36:110:36:14

it's more fun to make their plans in the depths of the English winter.

0:36:140:36:18

That's what this family are doing with their maps and...their arguments, of course.

0:36:180:36:24

The world was, from our point of view,

0:36:240:36:27

a much bigger world than it had been for our parents.

0:36:270:36:31

Mind you, it still was quite a big deal if you phoned up Newbury.

0:36:310:36:37

Already they are wondering in a bright dream of sunshine and strange cities.

0:36:370:36:41

But how, where?

0:36:410:36:43

Ship to this point, rail to that, coach up to here, fly there.

0:36:430:36:48

I went on a French exchange.

0:36:480:36:50

Unbelievably...extraordinary, glamorous thing to do.

0:36:500:36:55

A day trip to France was a big life event.

0:36:550:36:58

Mind you, where I grew up, going to Suffolk was a big trip.

0:36:580:37:01

So anything that was to France or beyond was exotic and, therefore, exotic had a higher value.

0:37:010:37:06

In those days, both the French and the Greek lavatory

0:37:120:37:18

were unbelievably appalling.

0:37:180:37:21

But the sophisticated thing was just to take them in your stride,

0:37:210:37:26

not make a fuss about it, darling.

0:37:260:37:29

That would reveal you as a sort of unsophisticated non-traveller.

0:37:290:37:35

So you just took them.

0:37:350:37:37

SHE LAUGHS

0:37:370:37:38

It's how you did these things that mattered.

0:37:380:37:41

As if you'd always had holes in the ground.

0:37:410:37:44

Once people got to Europe, they suddenly discovered all kinds of exciting things. Spaghetti?

0:37:440:37:49

How exotic!

0:37:490:37:51

The only spaghetti one had encountered had been in Heinz spaghetti loops in a tomato sauce.

0:37:510:37:56

This was very puzzling. Why would slimy worms be a national dish?

0:37:560:38:01

Now we're in the Common Market, we thought we ought to learn how to eat the stuff, so Glyn went

0:38:010:38:05

-onto the streets with plates of spaghetti.

-That's very good.

0:38:050:38:08

Comes out to a yard!

0:38:120:38:15

Whether you ate it with a knife and fork, or whether you ate it with

0:38:150:38:18

a spoon and fork or, if you were really good,

0:38:180:38:22

you just ate it with a fork.

0:38:220:38:24

-Try it.

-No, I don't...

0:38:240:38:26

It's gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous.

0:38:280:38:30

There we are. That's ready.

0:38:300:38:33

-I thought you were going to eat it.

-No, I don't eat things like that

0:38:330:38:36

that's been out in the street with all the dirt.

0:38:360:38:39

There we were fiddling around,

0:38:390:38:41

trying to scoop it up onto forks and things, terribly ham-fisted.

0:38:410:38:48

Where do you put this bit or that bit?

0:38:490:38:51

And there was, again, that kind of splashing that came from it.

0:38:510:38:55

Get someone who likes spaghetti. There must be a Spanish bloke coming along.

0:38:550:38:59

This girl cooked spaghetti bolognese with mushrooms for us and at the time

0:38:590:39:03

I thought, "Well, this is really sophisticated.

0:39:030:39:06

"She's not breaking the spaghetti into tiny bits. She's putting in

0:39:060:39:09

"the whole, long things, letting the hot water do its work

0:39:090:39:13

"and letting it melt into the pan."

0:39:130:39:16

But looking back, it wasn't that sophisticated because what she used

0:39:160:39:20

was a tin of Campbell's condensed soup for the tomato.

0:39:200:39:24

There goes the spaghetti bolognese. That cooker drives me mad!

0:39:240:39:27

It's not the cooker needs changing.

0:39:270:39:30

It's the cook.

0:39:300:39:31

Hey, come on.

0:39:310:39:34

We'd be better off at a Berni.

0:39:340:39:36

For a great steak at a fair price,

0:39:360:39:38

a good choice of fish and poultry dishes,

0:39:380:39:40

a friendly wine list and even friendlier service, you're better off at a Berni Steak House.

0:39:400:39:46

-I might ruin the dinner every night.

-I thought you did.

0:39:460:39:49

The first time I went to a restaurant, I think, was really late on in the '60s

0:39:490:39:53

when I went to university and the girl I was sharing digs with,

0:39:530:39:58

we went for her birthday to a Berni Inn.

0:39:580:40:01

Tennis champions eat at Berni Inns.

0:40:040:40:06

They like the first-class service.

0:40:060:40:09

Plush red seating, steak knives, black and white prints on the wall,

0:40:110:40:16

the smell of cooked meat, which even now is

0:40:160:40:21

one of my favourite things.

0:40:210:40:22

If this studio now was filled with the smell of cooking meat,

0:40:220:40:25

I wouldn't be talking to you. I'd just be sort of slavering.

0:40:250:40:29

Prawn cocktail or maybe an avocado, steak cooked to order

0:40:300:40:36

and Black Forest gateau to finish.

0:40:360:40:38

Almost the perfect meal I could eat as a teenager was prawn cocktail with Marie Rose sauce,

0:40:380:40:44

steak and chips, Death By Chocolate.

0:40:440:40:46

That is a tremendous meal. If I went to an Aberdeen Angus Steak House today,

0:40:460:40:50

that is probably the meal I would order.

0:40:500:40:52

That's probably all they serve.

0:40:520:40:54

As a business journalist, finding out why the Aberdeen Steak House

0:40:550:41:00

continues to trade is a bit like the Loch Ness monster mystery.

0:41:000:41:03

No-one really has come up with a good explanation.

0:41:030:41:06

There's all sorts of theories. Here was a restaurant that

0:41:060:41:10

apparently had no customers and served food so bad

0:41:100:41:13

I think one restaurant critic said it had all the appeal of herpes and none

0:41:130:41:17

of the laughs, and yet it continues going year after year after year.

0:41:170:41:21

Intellectually, I think the only rational explanation is that

0:41:230:41:27

it keeps going because teenagers keep on visiting it because they think it's sophisticated.

0:41:270:41:32

It just seems perfect.

0:41:320:41:34

When you discover steak and chips

0:41:340:41:36

and the fact that maybe in your life you can eat that all the time...

0:41:360:41:40

When I was a teenager, I remember reading an interview with Hugh Laurie

0:41:400:41:44

in which he was talking about what happiness would mean and he went, "To me, happiness is eating steak

0:41:440:41:49

"and chips, and I'm at a point in my life where I can actually eat steak and chips every day if I want."

0:41:490:41:54

I remember thinking, "Yeah, imagine that! That is absolutely something to aspire to."

0:41:540:41:59

Every day, you could be able to just walk into somewhere, have steak and chips.

0:41:590:42:03

That seemed like the ultimate in sophistication.

0:42:030:42:05

Loads of things that we now consider staples were a bit exotic.

0:42:050:42:10

Exoticism was itself quite smart,

0:42:100:42:12

whereas now, you know, if you had jerk chicken,

0:42:120:42:15

that would be exotic, but it wouldn't be posh and a curry wouldn't be posh.

0:42:150:42:18

But then exotic meant a little bit French or a little bit Italian and it was all really like, "Wow!"

0:42:180:42:25

You really have a number on yourself.

0:42:250:42:27

I think I would have aspired to a Chinese restaurant

0:42:270:42:29

because it was exotic, it was bulky, colourful and kind of fixed price.

0:42:290:42:35

I've always thought there's something very grown-up about an all-you-can-eat buffet.

0:42:350:42:40

HE CHUCKLES

0:42:400:42:42

And I think what the lady would have admired about my decision was that

0:42:420:42:48

there's a sort of thrift about it.

0:42:480:42:49

I remember being taken to a restaurant by my friend's dad

0:42:490:42:53

when I was about 15, and he said,

0:42:530:42:56

"Oh, Satnam, is this the first time you've been to a Chinese restaurant?"

0:42:560:43:00

As I was struggling with my chopsticks.

0:43:000:43:02

But, actually, it was the first time I'd ever been to any restaurant

0:43:020:43:06

and I was pretending I'd been to loads.

0:43:060:43:08

Two young people walking out, walked into a cinema restaurant in Chester

0:43:100:43:14

and learned how 1965 science is applied to cooking.

0:43:140:43:18

No more waiting. Each order served before you can say "knife".

0:43:180:43:22

Whether it's steak and chips, curry,

0:43:220:43:25

fish and chips or anything else on the menu, and it's done to a turn

0:43:250:43:30

in a matter of seconds, which is the big point of using microwave energy.

0:43:300:43:34

I remember my brother and I... My mum said,

0:43:340:43:36

"You two seem more excited about the microwave arriving than we do."

0:43:360:43:39

But we thought it was tremendously exciting to have this basically,

0:43:390:43:43

sort of nuclear-capable piece of machinery in our kitchen,

0:43:430:43:47

which we would be able to use to ruin food for the next 20 years.

0:43:470:43:51

Housewives are alleged to spend most of their time on the telephone or in the kitchen.

0:43:510:43:55

-Will they have to do this in future?

-I don't think they'll spend nearly so much time in the kitchen.

0:43:550:44:00

One thing which is just coming in now is the microwave oven.

0:44:000:44:03

Microwaves are radio waves of very high energy

0:44:030:44:06

and they can cook food at tremendous speed, straight from the freezer.

0:44:060:44:10

You just pop a piece of frozen food in there, close the door,

0:44:100:44:14

set a switch for, say, 90 seconds,

0:44:140:44:17

push the button and, literally, 90 seconds later

0:44:170:44:19

you can take a piping hot meal out of that oven.

0:44:190:44:22

I remember someone saying, "When it stops, the beeps go, but you mustn't open it for five seconds.

0:44:220:44:27

"You've got to let all the waves go back into the machine, otherwise,

0:44:270:44:31

"it beeps, you open it and you're hit with all the microwaves and you'll be partially cooked as well."

0:44:310:44:36

Now instant food looks like the opposite of good food.

0:44:360:44:40

But then it looked like modern food and modern was good

0:44:400:44:45

and superior and advanced and progressive, until you actually encountered it.

0:44:450:44:49

As kids, we were constantly trying to persuade my mum to buy

0:44:490:44:54

Smash potato and Vesta curries

0:44:540:44:57

and those ready meals that were very few and far between then.

0:44:570:45:01

This is the chef, the Vesta chef,

0:45:010:45:03

who diced the beef, sliced the onion, mixed the fruit, ground the spice,

0:45:030:45:08

stirred the curry, prepared the rice

0:45:080:45:10

that went into Vesta beef curry, and it took him three hours.

0:45:100:45:13

The Vesta curry was, certainly for us and where I lived,

0:45:130:45:17

that was the first meal that you bought

0:45:170:45:19

that you didn't have to stand and cook yourself.

0:45:190:45:21

This is the wife who went to the pantry, who opened the packet,

0:45:210:45:24

then cooked and served that wonderful Vesta beef curry, and she did it all in 20 minutes.

0:45:240:45:28

The rice was boil-in-the-bag and I think you'd literally put boiling

0:45:280:45:32

water from the kettle into the curry

0:45:320:45:35

and waited for it to reconstitute into this sort of brown mass.

0:45:350:45:39

What I remember about that was the colour, really.

0:45:390:45:43

The colours were colours you'd never see anywhere in nature, you know.

0:45:430:45:50

You thought, "How does it get to be that kind of yellow?"

0:45:500:45:52

Because of its brightness, one assumed it to be good,

0:45:520:45:57

which may have been a mistake.

0:45:570:45:59

We thought they were marvellous and that was, honestly, the first taste

0:45:590:46:03

of curry and that was so exotic to have a curry.

0:46:030:46:06

My mum had never made a curry.

0:46:060:46:08

-Now, your dinner.

-That's all right.

0:46:080:46:10

I've got some Indian takeaway.

0:46:100:46:12

Then will you kindly eat it in the kitchen with the extractor fan full on.

0:46:120:46:16

Last time, this upholstery wreaked of vindaloo for a week.

0:46:160:46:20

I think we would have been watching in the evening at

0:46:220:46:25

about 7.30, we'd have been starting to watch The Good Life

0:46:250:46:28

and thinking that they were quite sophisticated in a way,

0:46:280:46:33

even though they were supposedly a bit left-field.

0:46:330:46:37

But they would have been eating healthy food, probably muesli.

0:46:370:46:40

Muesli was something that was most definitely sophisticated.

0:46:400:46:43

Somebody had the brilliant idea of marketing twigs, bits of beak and gravel, and we took it.

0:46:430:46:48

It is a seriously appealing breakfast. Well done.

0:46:480:46:51

The idea that you could eat something that was kind of

0:46:510:46:54

good for you was a bit of a new idea, or it seemed to be anyway.

0:46:540:46:59

I don't know what we were doing before, but certainly, in our household, I remember my mum

0:46:590:47:04

one day saying, "What about eating this at breakfast, muesli?"

0:47:040:47:09

You'd go, "What?

0:47:090:47:10

"No, we have big American companies called Kellogg's

0:47:100:47:14

"that supply us with our breakfast. Don't mess with the rules."

0:47:140:47:19

Muesli holds a strange sort of sway over me.

0:47:190:47:23

I think muesli basically came in at roughly the same time as having a duvet was the thing to do.

0:47:230:47:30

Every house would have to move from

0:47:300:47:34

an ordinary breakfast cereal and blankets and a sheet,

0:47:340:47:39

and then in comes the revolution of muesli and duvets at the same time.

0:47:390:47:44

"So what did you have for breakfast today?

0:47:440:47:47

"Yeah, yeah, Coco Pops.

0:47:470:47:49

"Yeah, I used to have Coco Pops.

0:47:490:47:51

"Course, these days, it's all about muesli in our house."

0:47:510:47:57

Now show us how you come into a room gracefully.

0:47:570:48:01

That's grand.

0:48:010:48:03

Very nice.

0:48:090:48:11

Ten out of ten.

0:48:110:48:13

When they've mastered the difficult art of entering a room

0:48:130:48:16

and the even more formidable task of sitting down, these girls will move on to other basic essentials of life

0:48:160:48:23

in an age of technological marvels and social change.

0:48:230:48:27

For example, how to dangle a pretty glass at a party.

0:48:270:48:31

There was a real phase at my school of people having dinner parties

0:48:310:48:34

for their 16th birthdays, which is hilarious. We should have been going clubbing.

0:48:340:48:38

No teenager should try and do a dinner party. Who cares about food when you're a teenager?

0:48:420:48:47

I mean, you don't care, but you kind of feel like you should.

0:48:470:48:50

Someone's parents would have to go upstairs for the night

0:48:500:48:54

and we'd all sit around the dinner party and we'd have to wear black tie.

0:48:540:48:59

We didn't even know any boys, so it was a dinner party of eight girls

0:48:590:49:02

with a load of shortcake. It was embarrassing.

0:49:020:49:05

You'd have melon.

0:49:050:49:07

I actually remember my friend Ruth on her birthday was so drunk.

0:49:070:49:12

It must have been her 18th, I guess.

0:49:120:49:14

She was so drunk that she fell asleep in the melon in her full-length black satin gown.

0:49:140:49:18

We thought we were sophisticated, and that was what you were aiming for completely.

0:49:180:49:22

To me, that seemed another world away, the idea

0:49:240:49:27

of getting people round to your house and giving them dinner

0:49:270:49:30

and then remembering that you needed to have some sort of chocolate mints

0:49:300:49:35

that people could have afterwards.

0:49:350:49:37

After I've wined and dined them, then I cosset them

0:49:370:49:41

with a log fire, some old French brandy, a bottomless coffee pot

0:49:410:49:45

and lots of After Eight wafer-thin mints.

0:49:450:49:47

I always give them After Eight.

0:49:470:49:50

Cool, creamy peppermint in rich, dark chocolate.

0:49:500:49:53

So clever to have all that in such a slim shape.

0:49:530:49:56

Luxury, unashamed luxury.

0:49:560:49:59

After Eight wafer-thin mints.

0:49:590:50:02

After Eight, which was launched at the beginning of the '60s, when it

0:50:020:50:05

first came in, very sophisticated and the name says it, doesn't it?

0:50:050:50:09

After Eight. Sort of a bit luxury, a dinner brand.

0:50:090:50:13

Almost decadent in a way.

0:50:130:50:15

I don't know if that's being a bit silly, but I just seem to remember

0:50:150:50:18

the whole thing, opening the box, the black wrapper inside,

0:50:180:50:22

the whole experience of the chocolate...

0:50:220:50:25

Just being really, really posh.

0:50:280:50:30

There's a kind of internal fantasy in that

0:50:300:50:32

we would get After Eights at Christmas and I would pretend

0:50:320:50:35

I was eating them at a dinner party,

0:50:350:50:37

eating English food, which were things we never did, you know.

0:50:370:50:40

The nocturnal activities of this species are fascinating.

0:50:400:50:43

Some nibble delicious wafer-thin After Eights.

0:50:430:50:47

You offer the box around and you take it out.

0:50:470:50:49

Instead of taking the whole thing out, you'd leave the black wrapper in the box.

0:50:490:50:53

You'd take the chocolate and the wrappers would stay in the box.

0:50:530:50:56

Here we see a challenge to the dominant male,

0:50:560:50:58

who's clearly marked his territory.

0:50:580:51:01

You'd be rummaging around to see if there was one left.

0:51:010:51:04

You'd just spend the whole time doing that with them.

0:51:040:51:06

You'd always find one. There'd always be one tucked away. "I've got it!"

0:51:060:51:10

With awesome eyesight, this creature

0:51:100:51:12

spots one lone After Eight and devours mercilessly.

0:51:120:51:16

-And here...

-Blasted film crew got in here again!

0:51:160:51:20

Oh, dear, it looks as though we've been spotted.

0:51:200:51:22

It's my favourite chocolate, After Eights.

0:51:220:51:24

I was thinking about having a box a couple of nights ago.

0:51:240:51:27

Always give him After Eight.

0:51:270:51:30

Cool, creamy peppermint in rich, dark chocolate.

0:51:300:51:34

Luxury. Unashamed luxury.

0:51:340:51:38

After Eights sold themselves on the tag line, "pure unashamed luxury,"

0:51:380:51:42

which was hilarious because they actually cost about 80p.

0:51:420:51:46

As if pure unashamed luxury could be that cheap, that was the brilliance.

0:51:460:51:50

You could buy them in the newsagent's, take them to someone's birthday party instead of

0:51:500:51:54

a box of Matchmakers and they'd be just about one up from Matchmakers, unless it was orange Matchmakers.

0:51:540:51:59

I suppose if there's a brand that's taken over from the After Eight, it's Ferrero Rocher.

0:51:590:52:04

What was interesting about that period in marketing was

0:52:040:52:06

it was an invitation to places you'd never see or go.

0:52:060:52:09

The ambassador's receptions are noted in society

0:52:090:52:13

for their host's exquisite taste that captivates his guests.

0:52:130:52:17

This was a long time before as much freedom of information and 24 media coverage.

0:52:170:52:24

You know, there wasn't Hello! and OK!

0:52:240:52:26

You didn't get a look into it the world of the drinks parties

0:52:260:52:30

in London and the famous people doing stuff. You just didn't.

0:52:300:52:34

And the ambassador's reception, great example of, "My God, it's full of really posh people.

0:52:340:52:39

"So that's what an ambassador's reception looks like and he serves

0:52:390:52:42

"those funny gold chocolates, delivered by some bloke with white gloves on."

0:52:420:52:47

Ferrero Rocher.

0:52:480:52:51

Delicious.

0:52:510:52:53

Excellente.

0:52:530:52:56

Monsieur, with this Rocher you will spoil us.

0:52:560:53:00

Ferrero Rocher, a sign of taste.

0:53:000:53:03

People looked at it and went, "Well, that's just a bit unusual

0:53:030:53:06

"and if I take that in a nice box, I'm quite a sophisticated person taking that round to my neighbours."

0:53:060:53:12

I think keeping up with the Joneses was a big part of this era.

0:53:120:53:14

To me, actually, the wrapping does it alone for Ferrero.

0:53:140:53:18

They don't need to do anything else.

0:53:180:53:20

As a teenager, if I was walking around a confectioner

0:53:200:53:23

and you saw the Ferrero Rocher, you'd think, "Well, they're there,

0:53:230:53:26

"they're tempting, but I must hold back until I'm a member of the diplomatic community."

0:53:260:53:31

It did create that balance between, "Was it aspiration or was it funny?"

0:53:310:53:34

No-one could work it out and in some ways that was its charm.

0:53:340:53:37

Are you playing the best game in the world because you're highly aspirational

0:53:370:53:41

and it's beautiful, or are you kind of going,

0:53:410:53:43

"This is a bit pony," and actually you should laugh at the fact that

0:53:430:53:47

the quality and the delivery is awful?

0:53:470:53:49

Who knows? It worked.

0:53:490:53:51

At the end of the day, it just did a phenomenal job for branding Ferrero Rocher chocolates

0:53:510:53:57

and actually creating a brand that people bought a lot of, remarkably.

0:53:570:54:01

# What is a teenager's prayer? #

0:54:010:54:07

# It's not very hard to define... #

0:54:100:54:15

I don't think when I was a teenager that I thought that any of my

0:54:150:54:22

sort of teenage discontents were going to be solved by an object,

0:54:220:54:27

which I think now I'd be much more likely to think,

0:54:270:54:32

"Yeah, in a Mercedes, things might be very different."

0:54:320:54:36

So, I look back on my youthful self and think, "Yeah, respect.

0:54:360:54:41

"I like you more than I like myself now."

0:54:410:54:44

I think I was so used to being on the wrong side of everything.

0:54:500:54:54

I was just so uncool for so long and so, like,

0:54:540:54:57

loud when everybody else was being quiet and quiet when everybody else was being loud.

0:54:570:55:01

I had everything so wrong for so long

0:55:010:55:05

that I kind of stopped caring.

0:55:050:55:07

I tell you what is a weird thing about teenagers

0:55:130:55:16

is so many things...

0:55:160:55:19

Suddenly your eyes are opened to and seem sophisticated that

0:55:190:55:22

even problems seem like quite a sophisticated thing.

0:55:220:55:26

You're really sort of angst-ridden and you wallow in that a bit, and it's not just...

0:55:320:55:37

If you've got a problem now, you think, "God, I wish I didn't feel like this."

0:55:370:55:41

But as a teenager, you love that you feel like that because you realise you're an adult

0:55:410:55:44

and it makes you identify with the songs you're listening to or the films you're watching,

0:55:440:55:49

and you think, "Yeah, when Julia Roberts as a prostitute feels like that about

0:55:490:55:54

"Richard Gere, that's exactly how I feel about Richard Saxby."

0:55:540:55:56

You've got such a warped view of the world that you do start thinking,

0:56:040:56:08

"Well, it seems to be quite sophisticated to have something quite wrong with you.

0:56:080:56:12

"You know, depression, that would be quite cool, quite a cool thing to have.

0:56:120:56:17

"You know, serious organ failure...

0:56:170:56:19

"Just a constant people fluttering around you,

0:56:190:56:22

"checking that you're OK."

0:56:220:56:24

At the time, I thought I was very happy,

0:56:240:56:27

but in fact I must have been in a state of very severe depression.

0:56:270:56:32

One of my hobbies was writing poetry and some of my poetry of the period was absolutely revolting.

0:56:320:56:37

I went on a sports holiday when I was about 13

0:56:450:56:48

and there was a guy who I met who I just absolutely loved.

0:56:480:56:52

There was, like, a vague...

0:56:520:56:54

I think we might have even kissed, but only just.

0:56:540:56:59

And then he went to boarding school, I think,

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and I was waiting for him to write to me, and I did write a poem.

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I think I wrote one poem for which I will never forgive myself.

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Certainly, the first two lines were, "Is it worth the pain and sorrow,

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"the thinking, well, he'll phone tomorrow?"

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Hang on, it's coming back to me now.

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The last line... The last line... This is pathetic.

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"The listening to my friends insist that he does know I exist."

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And I think it went on like that.

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And I remember thinking, "This is really good.

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"I mean, not only does this really capture how I'm feeling, but this is

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"really good, this is a really grown-up, proper, good poem.

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"It really rhymes quite successfully."

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But the last line of the poem was, "Don't hate me for being unhappy,"

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which is just... Oh.

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Actually, saying it out loud now, it is quite good.

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Now you sort of think, "Perhaps if I go running five times a week, I'll start feeling better."

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But I can't believe there's a period in your life when you think, "I'll just write

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"this down in a way that rhymes or I won't get through the afternoon."

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I can't remember the rest of it now. But he never did get back in touch with me.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad I was a teenager then.

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I don't think I'd want to be a teenager now...

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because it's more complex now.

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There are more choices, and I think it's pretty hard for a teenager

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to successfully move through, whereas, we just had to realise

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the hard way that dungarees were what painters wore.

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# Are teenage dreams so hard to beat

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# Every time she walks down the street

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# Another girl in the neighbourhood

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# Wish she was mine She looks so good

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# I wanna hold you Wanna hold you tight

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# Get teenage kicks right through the night... #

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