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What would you buy if you had 100 million? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
A palazzo in Venice maybe, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
or perhaps a fleet of private jets, or a personal submarine. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
Or would you plough it all into a single painting? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Some of the richest people in the world have done just that. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Your bidder at 95 million. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
What makes the super-rich splash out so much money on art? Is it love? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Rivalry? Or just big business? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
I want to find out more about this infamously secretive art world, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
and the multi-millionaires who populate it. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-You've got your grubby hands on my beautiful wall. -I do apologise. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
I'm searching for the most expensive paintings in the world, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
to uncover the stories behind their record breaking prices. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Fair warning... Going... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
BANGS GAVEL | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
This is Christie's big showroom in London and what you can see are | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
the paintings, some of the paintings, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
that will be sold at the big evening auction in New York, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
which is coming up in just a few weeks. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
And this is one of the highlights, a Picasso. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
It's a series he did in the '50s known as the women of Algiers, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
it's got an upper estimate of 30 million. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
This is another of the star lots, a Monet, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
from a series he did I think in the 1890s, 1891. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
These are poplar trees, this could sell for as much as 30 million. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
And this is a Rothko, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
that has been practically unknown to art historians. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Belonged in a private collection. Let's have a look at the estimate... | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
This could sell for 22 million, apparently. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
22 million? 30 million? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
That sounds like an awful lot of money for a painting. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Well, it's not. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
It is a bargain compared to the eye-watering amounts paid | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
for the top ten paintings sold at auction. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
When you think about it, art is a little bit like magic, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
because just with the wave of a brush, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
something that has no practical purpose whatsoever - | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
just a worthless scrap of canvas, covered with inexpensive pigment - | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
can become this priceless object that's desired by many | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
of the wealthiest and most powerful people anywhere on the planet. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Abracadabra! But how exactly is it done? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Just what is the link between art and money? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
My story starts here in New York, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
where the American abstract painter Mark Rothko | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
dominated the art world in the '50s and '60s. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
And it is perhaps a surprise to those who find abstract art | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
hard to take, that one of his paintings is number ten on my list. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
To find out why, I've come to a billionaire's skyscraper. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
This is Rothko's "White Center", | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
and it would cost you more than 72 million. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
72,840,000, to be precise. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
And that's put it at number ten | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
in our list of the most expensive paintings in the world. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
Going up! | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Start the bidding at 33, 34, 35 million dollars... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
I'm bid 36 million dollars. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
The painting was sold | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
at the auctioneers Sotheby's, in New York, in 2007. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
63 million dollars... | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
Fair warning... 64 million. Just in time. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
And when you factor in the hefty buyer's premium | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
on top of the hammer price stated by the auctioneer, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
this made it a record breaking amount. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
More than three times the previous price paid for a Rothko. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
So what does this tell us? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
That "White Center" is officially the tenth best painting ever made? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
Not exactly. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
The important thing to remember is that value isn't really | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
linked to quality. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Something that can send the price of a painting rocketing | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
is what is known in the art world as provenance - | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
who has owned the painting in the past. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
And in the case of Rothko's "White Center", | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
it was owned by one of the wealthiest and most powerful dynasties in America - | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
the Rockefellers, who amassed their fortune from oil and banking, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
and reshaped the New York skyline with The Rockefeller Centre. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
On the 56th floor, David Rockefeeller built an impressive | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
art collection that included works by Picasso, Gaugin and Mark Rothko. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
In 1960, he paid less than 10,000 for White Center. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
Half a century later, it was worth more than 72 million. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:38 | |
Today, the painting is even known informally | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
as the Rockefeller Rothko. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Which says it all, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
the name of its former owner is as important as that of the artist! | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
To find out if White Center deserves it's number ten spot, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:55 | |
I'm on my way to New York's famous Pace Gallery | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
to meet one of the world's leading art dealers, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Arnie Glincher. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
Arnie was friends with Rothko, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and has been buying and selling his work for 50 years. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
-Is this a really great Rothko? -It is a wonderful painting. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
But what Rothko was really interested in | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
was the idea of an almost formlessness | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
use of colour, to transmit pure human emotion. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
I mean, you just have have to strip away all of the prejudices | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
that you have, looking at a painting by Rothko, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and let it flow over you like great music flows over you. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
You know, there are very few artists in the history of art | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
that create something that we have never seen before. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
Rothko was one of those artists. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
But all kinds of things converge | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
for a painting to bring that sum of money. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-Such as what? -Such as its provenance. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
It was the Rockefeller name which amazed me. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
Why do you say it has amazed you? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Because the whole thing of art and money is ridiculous. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
The value of a painting at auction | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
is not necessarily the value of the painting. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
It's the value of two people bidding against each other | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
because they really want the painting. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
The people who bid the most for White Center, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
are rumoured to be oil billionaires, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
just like the Rockefellers, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
the Qatari royal family | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
who'll be hosting the football World Cup in 2022. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Sadly though, White Center hasn't been seen since the auction. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
I can't even show you a good reproduction. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
But my next painting couldn't be any more different. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Here, the buyer specifically wanted | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
to show a lost masterpiece to the world. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
At number nine in our list, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
is Peter Paul Rubens' Massacre of the Innocents. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
It sold at auction in 2002 | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
for 76,529,058. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
The Flemish painter, Peter Paul Rubens, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
is considered one of the greatest artists of all time. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
So perhaps it's unsurprising | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
that an old master makes it onto my list. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Actually, it's rare for such a good quality painting to come to auction. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Nearly all the finest old masters are now in museums | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
and they're highly unlikely to ever reach the market again. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
It's hard not to feel a little bit upset | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
when you encounter this picture | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
because there's just no shying away from the subject matter. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
It tells the story of King Herod's massacre | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
of the newborn boys of Bethlehem. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
And it's terrifying. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
You see muscly soldiers ripping babies from their mother's arms | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
and dashing them to the floor. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
The women themselves are weeping and wailing and scratching, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
clawing at the faces of their assailants. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
These lifeless corpses of the infants, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
here down at the bottom of the painting, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
tossed aside like unwanted, forgotten dolls. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
They have this distressing shade to their skin, this stone-cold blue. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
It's just too painful almost to look at and full of anguish | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
and grief and despair and high, raw full-blooded emotion. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
To be able to do that, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
to transform something so horrendous and so complex | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
into a coherent piece of beauty, is just astounding. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
I wondered before coming here, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
whether it's worth paying 76.5 million | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
for any picture at all. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
You come here and you see this painting | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
and it is a total, total knockout. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
The Massacre of the Innocents is even more astonishing | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
when you consider that until recently, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
it wasn't even thought to have been a Rubens at all. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
When it was finally identified or attributed to Rubens, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
the painting's value increased exponentially over night, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
adding several noughts to its price. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Here at the National Gallery, art historian, David Jaffe, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
helped reveal who really painted the Massacre of the Innocents, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
by comparing it with another Rubens masterpiece, Samson and Delilah. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Do you remember when you first saw it? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Yes, I saw it at Sotheby's up in the upper so-called private room. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:50 | |
It was pretty extraordinary. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
It was one of those ones where I said, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
"We don't have to have a large discussion on this, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
"it's clearly right." | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
Tell me about the comparisons between Samson and Delilah | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
and the Massacre of the Innocents. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
We actually took them upstairs here where we have decent sunlight | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
and you can look at them very carefully. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
They had a lot of the same nuances. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
You cross a 'T' in a certain way and dot an 'i' in a certain way, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
painters handle a brush, particularly when they're bored, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
Rubens often has a little zig-zag. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
You can see it on the ankle of this painting. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
You're looking for his handwriting in paint | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and if a hand writing works, it's by that artist. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Once the Massacre of the Innocents was attributed to Rubens, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
what does that do to the value of the painting? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Well, I think everyone wants to buy the real thing. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
The very few great Rubens of any period in his career, you can buy. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
So when a great one comes up, it gets an exponential thrust. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
Until it's on that moment of being for sale, it doesn't have any value. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
It's an arbitrary thing. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
You can't protect how idiotic three or four people will be | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
trying to chase the magic rabbit round the circuit when it comes up. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Only billionaires can chase that rabbit. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
Ken Thomson was Canada's richest man. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
He built a global media empire | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
that once encompassed the Times and the Sunday Times. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
He pumped millions into the art gallery of Ontario, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
in his home town of Toronto | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
to share the glory of art and its creation, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
as he put it, with the world. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
The Thomson's are intensely private and seldom do interviews | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
but Ken's son, David, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
who bid for the Massacre of the Innocents with his father, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
has agreed to speak to me. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
My father began collecting in the '50s. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
He'd mutter and sometimes he'd hit me in the arm and say, "Look at this! | 0:11:43 | 0:11:50 | |
"Can you imagine someone being able to carve this way? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
"Look David, look at the spine." This is how he responded. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
With each object, it would be a different facet to the object. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
It would be the patination, the colour. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
One of the defining moments in the history of the collection, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
of course, came when you bought Rubens Massacre of the Innocents. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
And paid what still is, the world record for an old master painting. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:17 | |
Of just north of 76.5 million. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Weekly, until the auction, he'd come down with the catalogue | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
and he'd ask me, "David, what do you think this will fetch?" | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
"What would you do if you were me?" | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
I'd say, "Dad, I think frankly you need to buy this picture." | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
"It's something that resonates like nothing else." | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
You must have had to fend off some supremely stiff competition. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:44 | |
You must have known there was going to be a fight. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-What was your strategy? -To triumph, to outlast them. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
-You knew you were going to win? -We knew we were going to win, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
at least I had a feeling we were going to a win. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
£45 million. Going to sell... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
The final prize was £49,500,000 or 76.5 million. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:07 | |
After it was over, there was silence. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
He took his glasses off and he took a few deep breaths | 0:13:10 | 0:13:16 | |
and I think he said something in effect of, "Oh, my goodness!" | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
It's an enormous sum of money and on a painting, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
you think to yourself, it's shopping centres, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
it's tangible but it was a marker for my father | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
and for his collections. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Ken Thomson died before he could see the Massacre of the Innocents hang | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
as the centrepiece of his collection at the Art Gallery of Ontario, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
on display for everyone to see forever. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
How do you feel when you go to the art gallery now, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
and look at this painting? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
I imagine if it were me, every time I saw it, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
I'd want to punch the air that I'd got this thing with my dad | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and given it now to the world. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
How do you feel? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I feel... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
..I just feel a wild spring of emotion | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
because it symbolised a journey for my father, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
it symbolised a journey between father and son | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
and it resonated for us as it resonates for so many others. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:23 | |
It's a very remarkable touchstone. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
So what have I learnt from painting number nine? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Well, that overnight, the same painting can be viewed | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
in a completely different way. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
One day the Massacre of the Innocents was overlooked, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
the next it was suddenly the most expensive old master ever sold. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
The canvas was exactly the same but the way it was perceived | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
was magically transformed by its attribution to a superstar artist. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
To get more of an insight into the mentality of the art collector, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
I've come to a luxury penthouse apartment overlooking the Thames, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
owned by one of the world's best-selling novelists. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
What should I call you? Geoffrey? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
This is Sisley. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
I love that picture. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
Is that a pastel? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
That's a pastel which is very rare, painted over 100 pastels | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
in his lifetime. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
It's one of those rare paintings | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
where I wanted it within seconds of seeing it. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Sometimes I go back, look a second time | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
but that one I knew immediately. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
-You've got your grubby hands on my beautiful wall. -I do apologise. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Jeffrey Archer, is currently 583rd in Britain's rich list. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
He's had a colourful career. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
A politician and confidant of Margaret Thatcher, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
he was made a lord by John Major | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
but he's also served a prison sentence for perjury. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
His novels have allowed him to pursue his passion | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
for collecting art, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
not old masters but 19th century Impressionists. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
Here you'll see one of my philosophies on collecting. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
Because I can't afford the major Impressionists, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
I buy the next rank down. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
They're often just as good, but not as well known. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
This is a Camois. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
-This is like Matisse. -Or Gauguin. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
If there was a Gauguin and this was a Van Gogh, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
you're talking not 10 times the price, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
you're talking 100 times the price. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
I suppose... let's get rid of your coat. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
I suppose the big thing about the main room is... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-The view. -Exactly. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
Which do you prefer, your paintings or the view? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
It's amazing. When people come here, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
they immediately say the view. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
It's hard not to stand here like this, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
which is a shame for the collection. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
That's what people do, walk-in, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
see the view, forget the pictures completely. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
I can't help noticing, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
you talked about having second rank artists in the corridor | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
in terms of the Impressionists, but here's Andy Warhol. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-Is he first rate? I don't think so. -Do you not? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
I think he's very expensive now but I don't think he's a great artist, no. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
I do like this, it's not dissimilar, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
the hairstyle between Marilyn and Margaret Thatcher. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
They were both powerful women. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
-How much do you think this will be worth now? -I've no idea now. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Don't be so vulgar. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
You called me the vulgarian, vulgar question, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
does the money for buying art come from... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
This is a golden book. This is the equivalent of going platinum. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
Cain and Abel. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
That's the breakthrough, if that's what you're getting at | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
in your continued vulgar way. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Yes, it was Cain and Abel that made it possible for me | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
to have the collection I have. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
My favourite picture in a way, is this one, the Albert Goodwin. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Often compared as an artist to Turner. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
What you see there, is he must have painted it from just over there. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
It's the amazing golds and the amazing colours. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
At night, when the sun is coming over it, it looks magnificent. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
-When did you buy it? -30 years ago. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
You've been collecting for several decades? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I've been collecting for 50 years. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
If you get into this mad world, it's like drugs. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
You have to have another one, you have to have another fix. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
It's just awful | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
and wherever you see something you can just about afford, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
you just about afford it. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
All collectors are all stupid and mad. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
And collectors really go mad for the artist at number seven | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
in our top 10. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
I'll explain why we jumped to seven in a moment. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
No one quite captures the imagination like Claude Monet, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
the prince of the Impressionists. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
He spent the second half of his life depicting his gardens at Giverny, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
especially the water lilies which he painted obsessively. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Most of them are in museums, so when a good one comes on the market, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
it creates a frenzy. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
In the room, the telephones at £28 million now. £28.5 million. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
At number seven in my top 10, it's Monet's Water Lily Pond | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
going for 80,379,591. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:11 | |
I'm with Tanya Pos, who bid for the painting and won. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
Well, Tanya, tell me about the night | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
that you bid 80 million for this painting. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Well, where to start. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
I knew that this painting was going to | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
outshine its estimate | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
and there was a lot of competition in the room. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
I knew that it was a very important piece for Monet | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
because of his water lily series | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
that he painted consecutively for 26 years. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
That's the question I wanted to ask | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
because they are so many of these paintings. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
What's so special about this one that means it's worth so much? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
First of all, of his late water lilies, few are signed | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
and this is a completed late version, signed by the artist. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
We should make clear that you weren't buying this for yourself. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
-You were buying this for somebody else. -Yes. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Who were you buying it for? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
I will never say. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Tantalising stuff. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
Confidentiality is part of my job. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
What is it that motivates some of these collectors | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
to spend this amount on works of art? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Well, I think, the people I work with | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
are surrounded by quality in their lives | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
so why would it stop in their art collecting? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
They wish to have the very best | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
and they want to be surrounded by the very best, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
whether it's their home, their car, their planes... | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
it's just the way they live their lives. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
Take a good look at the painting. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
It's appeared only once in public in the last 80 years, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
and since the auction, hasn't been seen again. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
This brings me to the story of the shocking disappearance | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
of the next two paintings in our top ten. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
The most popular postcard sold by the National Gallery is this one. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
It's a reproduction of a still life, of a vase of sunflowers, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
painted by Vincent Van Gogh in 1888. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
You can see that in reality it's much more luminous and radiant. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
This is one of the most famous paintings in the world | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and if it ever came onto the market, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
it would sell for an insane amount of money. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
But it won't. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
But when the highest achievements by some of our greatest artists | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
do appear at auction, the art market can be influenced | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
by much more than simply love of the painting. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
That's exactly what happened in the heady days | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
just before the stock market crash of 1990, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
when two paintings sold within days of each other. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
Vincent van Gogh's, Portrait of Dr Gachet at Christie's | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
and Au Moulin de la Galette by Pierre-Auguste Renoir at Sotheby's. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:52 | |
Number eight and number six in my top ten, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
purchased in a mad, two-day, spending spree | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
by the same collector. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
In the late 80s, buying art | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
had become a muscular, masculine pursuit. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Buying the best was like big game hunting, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
only to be attempted by the bravest with the deepest pockets. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
It was a rampaging bull market | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
and prices were being forced up by the new kids on the art block... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
..the Japanese. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
Hold on everyone else. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
71 million. Congratulations. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
The man with the biggest wallet in the room | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
was a paper tycoon, Ryoei Saito, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
intensely eccentric and secretive, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
no-one knew whether he bought both paintings for love, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
or solely as an investment, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
because he spirited them away, out of sight even from his own family. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
The man who sold Portrait of Dr Gachet | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
is legendary auctioneer Christopher Burge. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
17 million. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
He's sold more of the paintings in this film than anyone else. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
I want to discover more about the role and power of Auctioneers | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
and how they steer prices skywards | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
in all the excitement of the auction room. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
Sell warning and selling. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
This is the Woods Room which is the second of our sale rooms here, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
the smaller of the two, where we conduct most of our auctions, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I would say 90% of all our auctions take place in here. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
This, of course, is the room | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
in which we are about to give you an auction lesson. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
This is where I'm going to learn that the trade? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
A large staff will be assembling fairly soon to act as bidders, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
telephone bidders, sales clerks | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
and the rest of it, just as if it were an auction. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
I thought it was just going to be you and me? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
No, no, no, no, no. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
Let's begin with lot 327, a sculpture by Rodin. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
Do I have any bids at 24,000 in the room? Do I have 28? | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Thank you, madam. 28,000. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
30,000, thank you even more. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I tend, for months before these big sales, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
to have anxiety dreams about the auctions. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
You still get nervous?, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Oh, God. Terrified. More so, actually. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
The more I do it, the more nervous I get. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Do I have 150,000 in the room? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Someone? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Anyone in the room, anyone at all? | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I'm not getting much love from the room. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Art dealers, collectors, hangers-on, most of them, frankly, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
would love to see something go wrong. It's quite gladiatorial. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
You get the feeling the thumbs are like this | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
and will quickly go like that, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
if the auctioneer makes a hideous mistake. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Would you like to pay 55,000? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Against you, sir, at 55,000. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I know your habits, I can sometimes get an extra bit. 55,000. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Once you get into the swing of the auction, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
it's easy to lose sight of the numbers | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
and the reality of the sums at stake. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Sold to this Madam... this lady over here, 58,000. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
But as Burge concedes, occasionally prices in the auction room | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
are not just about the paintings. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Doesn't it happened in auctions that sometimes prices go so high | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
that people afterwards applaud? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Only once was there ever sustained applause for a lot that I sold | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
and that was for the Van Gogh, Portrait of Dr Gachet. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
When it was sold, and I hammered it down at 82.5 million, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
which was then the world record price for any work of art, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
there was sustained applause, people leapt to their feet, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
they cheered and yelled. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
This applause went on for several minutes | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
which is completely unheard of in an auction. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
The reason everybody applauded, I believe, is because | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
we had a very serious financial situation developing in 1990, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
all sorts of things were collapsing, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
and the Japanese buyers who had been the mainstay of the market | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
were beginning to get nervous and were pulling out | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
and everybody was convinced that the market was going to tumble. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
And that lot, for a moment, stayed the collapse, as it were. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:12 | |
I think, they were applauding out of relief | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
that they had saved their money. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Do you know, my feeling was one of, I have to admit it, great distaste. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
It was extremely uncomfortable. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
I felt like just walking off while this applause was going on, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
going off stage and not returning. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
They weren't applauding for Van Gogh, nor for the work of art, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
they were applauding for money. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Whatever Saito's motives were for buying the Van Gogh and the Renoir, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
he faced financial ruin soon afterwards. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Extraordinarily, he threatened to burn the paintings | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
rather than sell them. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
In 1996, he died and the paintings haven't been seen since. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
Some genuinely believe he carried out his threat | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
to reduce them to ashes. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
Others think they were secretly sold to pay his debts. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Either way, they've passed into art world mythology. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Just imagine the prices they'd achieve if they ever appeared again. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Number five in our top ten | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
is by a painter known for his brutal, difficult work | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and it brings me to London's Chelsea | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
where millionaires live behind metal gates and brick walls. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
So many millionaires, in fact, that it's easy to get the wrong house. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
They are Francis Bacon. That's right. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
These are not genuine, sadly. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Going in for Mr Jagger, are they? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
Mr Abramovich owns them. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Would you believe it? We've got the wrong house. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-I'm going to have to take them... can you show me? -Yes. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
That's where the garden is, there. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
-This one? So I should be putting these copies along here? -Yes. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
A triptych is a series of three paintings. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
That's two, I have a third. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
This one is by a famous British artist called Francis Bacon | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
that sold at auction in 2008 for 86,281,000 | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
which puts it at number five | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
in our list of the most expensive paintings in the world. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
There's a reason why I'm propping them up against a wall. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Behind me is a house that belongs to the Russian billionaire | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
and owner of Chelsea FC, Roman Abramovich, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
and the rumours are that he bought the real Triptych back in 2008. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
I have a very strong hunch that the real Triptych | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
is actually hanging in that house behind me. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
At number five, Francis Bacon's Triptych | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
which sold in Sotheby's in New York in 2008. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
Bacon's paintings are rising fast. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
Another work went for three times its estimate earlier this year. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
But they're not easy to look at. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Bacon was a hard drinker and heavy gambler who painted a series | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
of grisly triptychs and this is one of the goriest and best. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
Just look at those horrific winged creatures, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
pecking at a mangled carcase. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
You'd have to be made of stern stuff to enjoy | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
staring at this above your mantelpiece. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Maybe Roman Abramovich bought the Triptych to impress | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
his girlfriend, Dasha Zhukova, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
who recently opened an art gallery in Moscow. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
His purchases have not gone unnoticed. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
He also paid a record-breaking price for another artist, Lucian Freud, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
who's now officially Britain's most expensive living artist | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
thanks to Abramovich. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
Roman Abramovich is notoriously shy and declined my request | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
to have a look at his mantelpiece and stare at his Bacon. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
I have tracked down the daughter of another oligarch, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Maria Baibakova, herself a collector, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
to find out why Abramovich and the oligarchs | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
are descending on the art market. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
During communism, we actually couldn't go out and buy a painting, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
we couldn't aggregate funds, we didn't have bank accounts. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
So all of a sudden in the '90s, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
we have capitalism coming in, we are able to own private property | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
and after the affluent Russians | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
buy their first homes and their first cars, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
then they move on to the luxury sector and art collecting. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
Obviously, the most famous oligarch within Britain is Roman Abramovich. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Is he exceptional in terms of what he buys? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
We are only aware publicly of two works of art that | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Roman Abramovich has purchased... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
-Which are? -Which are the Lucian Freud and Francis Bacon Triptych. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
At the same time, he's a very substantial collector. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
It's not necessarily true | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
that everything he's buying is of that price tag. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Those were exceptional prices, weren't they? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Those were exceptional prices. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
I guess, the big question is, did he overpay? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Because it is such a large sum. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
I think the question is, why does it matter? | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
I'd love to get a sense from you of why some of this new breed, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
if you like, of very wealthy Russians are buying art. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Is it because they love it? Is it because they like to show off? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
Is it because art is a status symbol? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
If you think about it, most Russian art collectors are very private. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
You don't really know who they are, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
you don't really know what they own so... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Do you know who they are and what they own? | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Well, a lot of them are my friends, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
so yes, but they are extremely private. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
So therefore, the whole idea of buying art as a status symbol | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
falls apart right there | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
because presumably, if you're buying art for status, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
you would want people to know that you bought this or that. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
OK, oligarchs may not do it for global recognition | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
but it could be for approval among their peers. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Maria Baibakova would seem to be proof of that. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
So far, the collectors of my top ten paintings have bought art | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
for love, for prestige, for investment | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
and as the ultimate luxury item. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
But the painting at number four has meaning for its buyer | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
that goes beyond its monetary or even artistic value. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
Adele Bloch-Bauer II, painted by the Viennese artist Gustav Klimt in 1912 | 0:32:08 | 0:32:15 | |
came onto the market in spectacular fashion in 2006. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
The Bloch-Bauers were wealthy Austrian Jews, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
who along with so many others, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
had there possessions stolen by the Nazis. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer II, 25 million. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Starting at 25 million... | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
After years of legal wrangling, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
the painting was restored to its rightful owner, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
a descendant of the family living in California, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
who then decided to sell it. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
This is known as restitution art. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Guy, your bidder at 78 million... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
With the buyer's premium, this made Adele Bloch-Bauer II | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
the fourth most expensive painting in the world. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Ronald S Lauder, who is himself Jewish | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
and inherited the Estee Lauder cosmetics empire, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
is rumoured to have bought the painting | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
but he's being coy about its whereabouts. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
However, he has allowed me into his gallery | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
on New York's exclusive Fifth Avenue | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
to see another of his paintings which is on public view. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
I've heard that this one cost him even more money. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
Here, at the Neue Gallerie in New York, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
there's another similar work, by the same artist, Klimt. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
He painted it five years earlier and it's a portrait of the same model, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
a woman called Adele Bloch-Bauer, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
who was the wife of a very wealthy sugar merchant in Vienna. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
The painting today is one of the most famous pictures in the world | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
and it's somewhere up here. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
I've seen this a lot in reproduction, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
I've never seen it for real until today. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
And you can't help but be amazed by this gilded, bejewelled surface. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:05 | |
This is a very lush, sensuous work. It's so civilised. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
Of course, it isn't just lush and refined, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
it is partly made of precious metals. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
It's got silver and gold there in the canvas | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
as well as paint, so that the whole image screams money. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
I think that's the thing that I find quite difficult | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
about this painting in particular. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
I just can't get past this idea that, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
ultimately, it's a portrait about infatuation, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
not just infatuation with a beautiful woman, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
infatuation with high society. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
The owner of this painting, the heir to a cosmetics fortune, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
paid the notorious price, reportedly, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
of 135 million for this painting alone | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
in a private transaction | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
which, however you spin it, is a staggering sum. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
He calls it our Mona Lisa. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
I think, referring to the gallery, he could be referring more widely | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
to the fact that here it is, presented as a triumph of sorts | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
over the atrocities that were perpetrated by the Nazis. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
As beautiful as it is, I think part of the reason he paid so much | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
is because the history of this painting | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
is bound up with a much bigger story, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
the history of the Jewish people during the 20th century. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
It's not in the top ten | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
only because the amount Lauder paid cannot be verified. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
Much of the art sold | 0:35:36 | 0:35:37 | |
never makes it to public auction, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
the money changing hands remain secret, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
but if 135 million is correct, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
does this make Klimt one of the greatest artists in the world, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
on a par with Rubens, Monet and Van Gogh? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
I don't think so but perhaps for Ronald Lauder, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
his purchases represent a form of cultural justice | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
and for him, justice comes at any price. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
I've come to Venice because I've managed to secure an interview | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
with our next billionaire | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
who just happens to be one of the most important men in the world | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
of contemporary art right now. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
And unlike many collectors, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
he's more than happy to put his collection on public display. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
Francois Pinault is one of France's richest businessmen. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
His luxury brands include Chateau Latour, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
one of the world's finest wines, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
the Vail Ski Resort in America | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
and Christie's, the auctioneer. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
So if you've been wondering where all those buyers' premiums went, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
perhaps here is the answer. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
I'm heading towards the Punta della Dogana, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
which is one of two museums that Pinault has here in Venice. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
I want to find out what motivates Pinault to collect art at all. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Does he do it for love? Or is it just another business opportunity? | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
Pinault is amassing a blue-chip collection of contemporary art. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
This is Jeff Koons's Hanging Heart. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
I don't know what Pinault paid for it, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
but another almost identical work sold for 23 million in 2007. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:22 | |
What is the secret of building a great collection? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Be passionate | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
and try to discover, to be very curious and be passionate. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
It's heart and passion, I think. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
To be a great collector, do you need to take risks? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
Absolutely, yes. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
I don't know if in 50 years the artist will be... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
it's not the issue. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
It's not the issue? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
You buy, you take your own risk. After that... | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
It's for history to tell? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
The piece in here, the Maurizio Cattelan horse... | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
It's a good piece, like a joke. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
But it is not only a joke, it is a message. He goes in the wall. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
There is a risk for you and for me to go in the wall, no? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
To go through a brick wall? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Yes. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
Very different. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
What do you think about... the bad side of the market | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
is that prices are so expensive now. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
You spend, I don't know, 70 million... | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Very sad, yes. Very sad. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Why do you think it's sad? | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
Because very often it's bought by people who don't like art really. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:42 | |
They buy art, sometimes, like a statue, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
like a social appearance. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
To show off, you mean? | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
Probably, sometimes. It's a pity, but what can we do? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
The risk of Francois Pinault frittering away his millions | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
on art that might simply be forgotten is great. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
But the potential reward of being remembered as an eagle-eyed patron | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
of the Monets and Rothkos of tomorrow is even greater. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
Of course, Pinault can afford to take such a risk. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
Lot 32 is next. Woman of Algiers.... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
But if you want a sure fire, armour-plated investment | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
that will impress the hell out of your friends, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
hang splendidly on your wall, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
in your luxury penthouse or on your private yacht, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
then you need to get yourself, or your adviser, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
down to an auction and buy a Picasso. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
18,700,000. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
This one went for a paltry 19 million, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
plus the buyer's premium | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
but the third most expensive painting in the world | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
sold for nearly five times that. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
At number three, Dora Maar au Chat. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Sold at Sotheby's in 2006, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
to a mystery man in the audience who no one had ever seen before, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
and who apparently spoke with a Russian accent. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
I wondered whether he was a friend of Maria Baibakova's as well. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
I was in the room when the painting was sold. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Right after the auction ended, there was a lot of speculation about, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
who is the buyer behind the scenes? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
And I think it took the art world | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
maybe about a year to really figure that out. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
So who is the buyer behind the scenes? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
So...it's a Georgian collector, who prefers to remain discreet. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
But everyone in the art world knows who he is? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Eh... I don't know about everyone, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
but some people in the art world know who he is. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
So why don't you just tell us? If everyone knows? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
I am not at liberty to. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Why, what will happen? He'll kill you? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
No, of course not! | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
I just honour and respect people's desire for privacy and discretion. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:56 | |
The only Georgian oligarch who seems to fit the bill is this man - | 0:40:56 | 0:41:02 | |
Boris Ivanishvili- named in the Russian edition of Forbes magazine | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
as the likely owner of the painting. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
He made his money from oil and mining, and lives in Moscow, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
presumably with Dora Maar and her cat. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
But this is more than I know about | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
the owner of the next painting on my list. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
It's another Picasso and it was sold in 2004. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
But nobody can tell me where it is or who the buyer might even be. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
Once again, when art becomes a luxury commodity | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
in the hands of the rich, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
sometimes it disappears from sight. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
Now, this is a reproduction of the real thing. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
Picasso painted Boy With a Pipe when he was 24, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
and he'd recently moved to Paris and had next to nothing. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
When Picasso put the finishing touches to Boy With a Pipe, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
he could never in a million years | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
have conceived that one day his painting would be worth so much. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
In 2004, Boy With a Pipe was offered at auction | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
and sold for £104 million, placing this at number two in our list. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:08 | |
So Picasso's at number three, and number two in my top ten. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
In fact, he occupies all three top slots. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
And that is because Picasso is much more than a painter. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
He's the ultimate luxury brand. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Nowhere is this more evident than in Las Vegas. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
Sin City is the last place you'd come looking for fine art, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
you might think. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
But actually, a lot of the people who built Vegas | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
covet works of art by Pablo Picasso. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
And if you think about it, it is a match made in heaven. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Because Vegas is the most extravagant monument to money imaginable. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
And Picasso? Well, he's famous | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
for being the most expensive artist in the world. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
In fact the billionaire property developer who built this place, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
the luxury Bellagio hotel and casino, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
also amassed an equally extraordinary | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
collection of Picassos. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
His name is Steve Wynn. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Walk through the heart of the casino | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
and in among the slot machines and gaming tables | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
you'll find an art gallery, and a Picasso "fine dining experience". | 0:43:32 | 0:43:38 | |
Most of the Bellagio's Picassos are here in the restaurant, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
which Steve Wynn designed, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
along with Picasso's own son Claude, who did the carpet. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
There genuinely are Picassos everywhere. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
There's a huge one over there, there's one here from 1917, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
this is from 1971 and every detail is linked, of course, to Picasso. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
Even the plates, which are closely modelled | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
on his own designs for his ceramics. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
-Bon appetit. -Thank you. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
It is a little bit ironic | 0:44:06 | 0:44:07 | |
that these two still lives of flowers and fruit, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
hanging behind me, are here at all. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
Because Picasso painted them during the war, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
when he was living in Nazi-occupied Paris | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
and food was impossibly scarce. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
Now, they are backdrops for lavish banquets. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
But I don't think the Belaggio really cares whether or not | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
you study the Picassos in here. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
You're just supposed to bathe in the aura of exclusivity they project. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:34 | |
I guess it makes a kind of sense for one of the smartest restaurants | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
in a city obsessed with money | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
to have paintings worth tens of millions of dollars on the walls. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
But it's hard not to wonder what has become of art | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
when it is nothing more than decoration | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
for the fabulously wealthy, like overblown wallpaper. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
I'm Steve Wynn, and this is my new hotel. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
The only one I've ever signed my name to. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
Steve Wynn paid for his new hotel by selling the Belaggio, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
along with all those Picassos. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
But he did hold onto one, his favourite, Picasso's La Reve. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
Which not only inspired the new hotel, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
but nearly became the most expensive painting in the world. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
Wynn suffers from a degenerative eye condition, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
and he's slowly losing his sight. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
In 2006, he agreed to sell La Reve - which means The Dream - | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
for 139 million. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
But before the deal was done, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
he put his elbow through the canvas and suddenly, the deal was off. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
We stood there, in shock. I can't believe I've done it. Oh no. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Oh no. And then I said, "Thank God it was me and not someone else." | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
It's easy to find his hotel, obviously. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
But the man and the painting are far harder to track down. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:59 | |
Now, I was hoping that Mr Wynn would invite us into his house | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
and I could see The Dream hanging on his wall. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
But his people refused the interview, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
so instead, I've come here, just outside Vegas. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
I've brought along this colour reproduction of The Dream, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
and you can see that it is an erotic fantasy, really. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
It's a picture of Picasso's mistress, Marie-Therese Walter. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Her head is nodding off to one side | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
as she's dropping into the unconscious and starting to dream. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
You can see her full face and also a profile. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
And if you see just the profile of her face, there, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
you're left with this other quite suggestive shape. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
Which I think is Picasso's way of saying | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
that she has sex on the brain. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
The Dream is one of Picasso's finest paintings | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
but Steve Wynn may have bought it in part because of its previous owner. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
We're back to provenance. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
Except this time, it is not a billionaire collector, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
but a middle-class New York family | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
who amassed an extraordinary collection of Picassos. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
What is considered the most important | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
20th century art collection ever offered at auction | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
shattered a record at Christie's in New York City last night. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
The collection of Victor and Sally Ganz | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
raked in more than 206 million, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
and that sets a record for a single owner auction. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
57 items sold, the collectors' children | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
put the masterpieces up for sale | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
after Sally Ganz died earlier this year. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
This is a book that Christie's produced, just before the sale. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
What they were trying to convey was something about my parents, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
and the way they collected art. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
So the way this book works is it goes through all the artists | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
they collected, one by one. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
And so, if you look at Picasso, you'll just see, you know... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
-Well there's The Dream. -There's The Dream! -But all of these pictures...? | 0:47:48 | 0:47:53 | |
They owned, yes. Here's this. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
-This one is this one! -Yes! | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
This is Winter Landscape, 1950. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
-There they are. -My parents when they were getting married. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
They were married in 1941. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
And in 1942, which was two years before I was born, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
they bought The Dream. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:15 | |
That was a very, very bold, brave and big purchase for them. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
Do you know how much it cost them? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
-It cost 7,000. -And to put that in context... | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
To put it in context, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
the rent on the apartment they had was 300 a month. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
-So it cost more than two years' rent. -Right. That's an investment. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:36 | |
It sounds like the way you're talking, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
that The Dream was one of the early purchases? | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
It was the first thing they bought. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
That was the first work of art they bought, the Dream by Picasso? | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
He saw the painting, he felt totally in love with it, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
the way you fall in love with a person. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Couldn't get it out of his mind, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:51 | |
and figured they had to scrape together the money | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
and give up other things in order to buy it. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
What did your mum and dad do? | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
How did they afford to be able to buy the art that they bought? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
My father was in the costume jewellery business, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
which he had inherited, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
and my mother didn't work, as women didn't work in those days. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
They didn't have much money, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
they didn't have savings, they had a rent-controlled apartment. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
And my father fell in love with Picasso. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
It sounds like they weren't buying for investment at all. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
Oh, not at all. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:23 | |
How would you describe the motivations that drove him | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
to buy these works? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
Love. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:30 | |
How did you feel when it came to the sales? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
Very sad. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
First of all, right after, my mother died, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
we were inundated with people you can imagine, teams of people, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
people from Sotheby's, Christie's, people from England, Japan, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
people from all over, descending on the house, | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
and that was a fairly uncomfortable situation. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
-Shameless, though? -That's what they do. That's their job. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
-Does this happen all the time? -Oh, of course. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
Believe me, now it's all computerised, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
but they have on their computer, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
the 50 most important collectors in the world, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
where their works of art are, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
how old they are, when they're about to die, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
who's going to inherit what, they know all this. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
-It's a deathwatch! -As my mother used to say, the vultures are circling. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
Oh, the sale room is such a morbid place - | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
it's about death and divorce. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
Was it a necessity, in the sense that there are a number of things | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
like taxes, death duty, and so on? | 0:50:37 | 0:50:38 | |
There was one big fat thing, called tax. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
In America at that time the taxes were about 55 per cent. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:46 | |
So if you'd retained a painting like The Dream, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
you'd have had to pay 55 or 60 per cent to the taxman of its value, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
as perceived by the auction house? | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
Right. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
How did you feel when you subsequently learnt | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
that The Dream ended up in the possession of Steve Wynn, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
who by all accounts is a very different man | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
to the man your father was? | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Steve Wynn, I've met him, he's a very nice man. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
I'm sorry that he put his elbow through the painting. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
That was unfortunate. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
But I do remember, it was in an exhibition in New York | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
a couple of years ago, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
and the director of the gallery said the repair is so skilful, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
that no-one has been able to see where it is. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
I went into the gallery, and I went into the room, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
it was way down at the other end, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
and as I started to walk down the room - nobody else was in there, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
I could see immediately where it was. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
Where was it, out of interest? Because I've heard various things. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
It's... Well, you can't see it. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Here's a picture of my son standing in front of it, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
but it's down, behind, right around there. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
-Her left forearm? -It's right about there, actually. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
I don't know how big the hole is, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
but the scar that you can see is about that big. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
I mean, in a sense, here's a painting that had survived, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
intact and being looked after and loved in your family | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
for many decades, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
and it's in someone else's possession, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
and it's suddenly damaged. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
Well... | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
You know... | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
it really, it fundamentally doesn't change the picture. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Changed the value of the picture! | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
I think the picture is more important than the money, so... | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
When you hear sums like that | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
attached to works of art, can you justify that? | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
How do you feel? | 0:52:26 | 0:52:27 | |
No, I think it's very sad. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
When you think what else you could do with that money in this world. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
I think it's ridiculous. When you say, how much money is it worth? | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
Then it's not about the art anymore. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Certainly the prices paid for our top 10 paintings | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
are not just about the art. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
They reflect provenance and attribution, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
buying for investment, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:50 | |
and buying to make a grand statement. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Only very occasionally are they all about love. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
58 million, 59 million. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
60 million, 61 million. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
In May 2010, another Picasso came onto the market. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:08 | |
72 million, 73 million. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
And this painting became the most expensive work of art | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
ever sold at auction. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
I was thrilled to be involved with it. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
It hadn't been seen for 50 years, most Picasso scholars today | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
had not seen the picture, so it was, in that respect, thrilling. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
95 million. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
It's an incredibly complex and beautiful work of art. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
And selling at 95 million. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
At number one in our top 10, it's Nude, Green Leaves & Bust, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
with the buyer's premium taking it way past the 100 million mark | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
to 106,482,500. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
So who can afford to pay such a colossal amount of money | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
for a painting? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
I have heard a rumour | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
that the most expensive painting ever sold at auction - | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
Nude, Green Leaves & Bust by Picasso - was bought by a Russian. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
Is that something that you know about? | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
As far as I understand, it was bought by a Georgian. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
But I can't say anything else! | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Whoever has bought it has also done something rather rare. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:29 | |
They've agreed to lend it to Tate Modern in London for two years. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:34 | |
The price it achieved gives it an aura. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Maybe when people look at it now, all they see are pound signs. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
But actually, it really is quite a phenomenal work. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
It might not be the best painting in the world, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
but it's strong, self-confident, and sophisticated. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
It belongs to the same sequence of paintings as The Dream, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
the one that Steve Wynn poked his elbow through. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
And like that canvas, | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
its subject is the artist's blonde voluptuousness mistress. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
Picasso was 50 when he painted this. Marie-Therese was only 22. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
They'd met five years earlier, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:09 | |
when Picasso stopped Marie-Therese, who was 17, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
in the street outside a department store in Paris, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
and said, "I am Picasso, I'd like to do a portrait of you | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
"and I feel we're going to do great things together." | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
And by Marie Therese's own admission, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
they were sleeping together within a week. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
Looking at this picture, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
you can tell that Picasso fell head over heels, because if anything, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Nude, Green Leaves & Bust is the most lavish picture | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
about the rapturous dividends of a mid-life crisis. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
This is about sexual fulfilment, it's about illicit sensual bliss. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:44 | |
Marie-Therese's flesh here, which is this radiant lilac, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
such a contrast to the predominantly dark blue background, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
is so pliant and soft, and spherical, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
just like the fiery orange red fruit in the bottom right-hand corner, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
as though she's something to be consumed, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
like a big, puffy pink marshmallow. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
But there is one detail about this painting | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
that I find ever-so-slightly sinister. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
If you look very carefully, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:11 | |
in between the plaster bust and the plant, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
you can just make out a very dark, shadowy profile | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
that's a self-portrait, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
as though the artist himself is part of that blue curtain, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:24 | |
watching over his lover, guarding her, enveloping her. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
And Picasso supposedly said, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
"For me there are only two types of women, goddesses and doormats." | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
But I think that here, Marie-Therese is both. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
She's a resplendent fertility goddess, if you like, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
but at the same time, she's positioned quite submissively, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
beneath both the artist and the viewer. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
And she's restrained by these two dark straps of shadow | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
that have this slight hint of bondage. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
If you follow their lines, form two enormous Ps, | 0:56:54 | 0:57:00 | |
one there and one inverted here, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:01 | |
as though the artist is branding both the image and her body | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
with his own initials - | 0:57:05 | 0:57:06 | |
PP, for Pablo Picasso. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
When the owner looks at this painting, what do you think he sees? | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
A love letter to a woman, perhaps. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
Or, a reflection of his own sexual prowess, and extraordinary wealth. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
What you can say for certain is that thankfully, here in a museum, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
a Picasso can be a work of art first, and a luxury object second. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:32 | |
And that can only be a good thing. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
But if I were you, I'd take a good, long look at this painting | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
while you can. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:39 | |
Because there's no guarantee that its anonymous owner | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
will keep it on public view indefinitely. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
It seems so unfair that our access | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
to some of the world's greatest works of art | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
depends upon the whims of the super-rich. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:54 | |
Sadly, we can't enjoy | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
some of the most precious paintings in the world, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
because so many of them are hidden in private vaults | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
by the millionaires and billionaires that own them. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
But there are still thousands of paintings owned by us, all of us, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
and to find out more about paintings you can see for free near you, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
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