Armando's Tale of Charles Dickens


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'This is Dickens World in Kent -

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'a vast tourist attraction

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'built to take visitors inside the novels of Charles Dickens.'

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-Hello.

-Good afternoon. How are you?

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-Good, thank you. Who are you?

-Pleased to meet you. Mr Micawber at your service, sir.

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Are you Mr Micawber? Very good. And you are?

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-'Ello, sir. I'm Nancy.

-Are you Nancy? Aren't you dead?

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That's our famous Great Expectations boat ride.

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-Great Expectations boat ride?

-Indeed.

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OK. Have you got the Artful Dodgems? Have you got that?

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Artful Dodgems?

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May I come through?

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-You may, sir.

-Fantastic, thank you very much, just get in here.

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'But surely there's more to Dickens than this?

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'More than just a logo attached to television costume dramas

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'and West End shows about street urchins.'

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It's so easy to label and package Charles Dickens,

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to exhibit him as some sort of Victorian showman,

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a one-off, a dazzling talent like Harry Houdini or Charlie Chaplin,

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a superstar from the past.

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I want to show that the work of Charles Dickens

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isn't just quality entertainment for a long-dead audience.

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Dickens's world of the imagination is as complex and as dark

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and as sophisticated as any modern city,

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and the characters he creates are as real

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and as psychologically driven

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as the inhabitants of any urban landscape today.

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And that's why I believe that the true Dickensian world...

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is our world.

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'Dickens, the 19th-century novelist, speaks to us now.

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'And I want to gauge his impact and relevance

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'by talking not to literary critics and biographers but to his readers.'

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'I'll meet those who Dickens makes laugh.'

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"It was difficult to enjoy her society

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"without becoming conscious of a smell of spirits."

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So what he's basically saying is this woman stank of alcohol!

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'The readers he stops in their tracks.'

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The thing is, he has a very driving narrative.

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He's got to get where he's going. But along the way something like that will just BOOM!

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'And those who suggest that Dickensian characters are still living among us now.'

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Some of it's timeless, yeah.

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And you see it all the time. Not me, obviously...

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No, me, definitely!

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'Before the bestsellers of Dan Brown and JK Rowling,

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'before the literary fireworks of Ian McEwan and Martin Amis,

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'there was the spectacularly popular

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'and critically applauded writing of Charles Dickens.

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'Dickens was the complete writer.'

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He wrote 15 novels, he invented 989 brand-new characters,

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he edited newspapers and magazines.

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He wrote speeches, plays, short stories, pamphlets, letters.

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Sometimes he did all these things simultaneously.

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Now, I haven't read all of these. I doubt many people have.

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But I don't think we should be put off by the sheer volume of Dickens's output, or his reputation.

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The great thing about him is that he had such a distinctive tone,

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such a unique style that was recognisable

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as he tackled the big issues -

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crime, death, poverty, riches, guilt, fear.

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And I think you can join him at any point.

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Each novel to me feels like a continuation of all the rest.

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Every character just one inhabitant in a virtual world created in his imagination.

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So I think the best way to tackle Dickens is to choose your point...

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and dive in!

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"To resume the consideration of the curious question of refreshment..."

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'Comedian Phill Jupitus didn't know any Dickens

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'until he decided to perform a show at the Edinburgh Festival.

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'There he would read out loud works he was seeing for the first time.'

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"I turn my disconsolate eye on the refreshments that are to restore me.

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"I find that I must either stuff into my delicate organisation

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"a currant pin cushion which I know will swell

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"into immeasurable dimensions when it's got there.

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"Or I must extort from an iron-bound quarry with a fork,

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"as if I were farming an inhospitable soil,

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"some glutinous lumps of gristle and grease called pork pie."

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I just found myself forgetting I was at a gig. And doing it live.

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He'd give reign to the most inconsequential of thoughts.

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He'd expand on ideas and they kind of build through the pieces.

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You can almost sense his thought process as he writes.

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Can I just take one which is, um... Mugby Junction.

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Now not many people know Mugby Junction.

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Mugby Junction's one of the latest...

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It's not really a novel as such, is it?

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No, it's just a story about a man who arrives at this train station, Mugby Junction,

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which becomes a bit of a sort of allegory for where he's at in life.

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"He spoke to himself. There was no-one else to speak to.

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"Perhaps though, had there been anyone else to speak to,

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"he would have preferred to speak to himself.

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"Speaking to himself, he spoke to a man within five years of 50 either way,

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"who had turned grey too soon, like a neglected fire.

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"A man with many indications on him, of having been much alone."

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Oooh!

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And it's just...

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You just stop, and it's just....

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What's the fire thing, "like a decaying..."?

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It was, "A man turned grey too soon, like a neglected fire."

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A neglected fire!

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He has a driving narrative in the pieces. Got to get where he's going.

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Along the way, something like that will just...BOOM!

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Stops you in your tracks. The other thing I find is

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it's not flashy.

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We have this image of Dickens with big, long sentences, very florid,

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and it's not like that at all.

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A lot of it is very simple,

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and suddenly there's a phrase there that just...

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-It's very difficult to go two pages without a phrase...

-Yes.

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-Just giving you a little...

-Yeah.

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I mean, emotionally, I felt...

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cos when I read him, it was three years ago, I was 45...

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I felt like an idiot for not having picked any up before.

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Dickens was born in 1812.

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By the time he was 30,

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he was the most famous writer in the world.

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By then, he'd made his name and his fortune

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with the comic tale The Pickwick Papers,

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and with Oliver Twist,

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the rags to riches story of the orphan who asks for more.

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He wrote his novels in monthly instalments,

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keeping his massive audience hungry for each arresting plot development or extraordinary new character.

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He delighted them with A Christmas Carol,

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and in later novels such as Hard Times,

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Little Dorrit and Bleak House,

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he secured his reputation as a champion of social justice,

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with his vivid and angry portraits of the condition of Britain.

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But there's one novel that gives us the most tantalising insight

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into the life of Dickens himself...

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..and that's David Copperfield,

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the book he described as his favourite child.

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Dickens wrote,

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"Of all my books, I like this the best."

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David Copperfield is the most autobiographical of his novels -

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it tells the story of a young boy going through a troubled childhood,

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but on to become a successful writer.

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Now I think the closeness of the subject

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and the intimacy of the style

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together shine a special light on the rest of his work.

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'In the novel, David's childhood starts as a happy one.

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'Though his father is dead, he's loved by his mother

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'and cosseted by their maid, Peggotty.

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'But we constantly see through the child's eyes

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'as soon the world turns dark around him.'

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I remember when I started reading David Copperfield for the very first time.

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It was one of those books that,

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as it says in the blurb, you cannot put down.

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I was drawn into it and the reason was,

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it has the most accurately sustained piece of writing

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from the perspective of a child that I've ever come across.

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Here's the start of Chapter Two, I Observe.

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This is the very young David Copperfield

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aged about what...two, three...

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looking up at what's around him, trying to describe his surroundings,

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his mother, and Peggotty, the family maid.

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"The first objects", he says, "that assume a distinct presence before me

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"as I look far back into the blank of my infancy,

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"are my mother with her pretty hair and youthful shape,

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"and Peggotty, with no shape at all

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"And eyes so dark they seemed to darken

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"the whole neighbourhood in her face."

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That's that thing of children,

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remembering things much larger than they were in reality.

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"Eyes so dark

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"that they seemed to darken the whole neighbourhood in her face,

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"and cheeks and arms so hard and red

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"that I wondered the birds didn't peck her in preference to apples."

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Again, everything is very simple at this stage.

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Dickens the great wordsmith, the literary showman,

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is actually putting everything back into his box of tricks,

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and shutting that box tight.

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So everything is in monosyllables.

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"Cheeks and arms so hard and red."

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And then that little image,

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the bird pecking at her cheeks in preference to apples.

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Of course, that's an image a child would understand. The bird pecking.

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He wouldn't have anything more sophisticated

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to compare Peggotty's cheeks to.

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'But David's idyll shatters as his mother remarries

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'to a cold and heartless man called Mr Murdstone.

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'And now David can only see harshness wherever he gazes.'

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"I could not look at her,

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"I could not look at him. I knew quite well

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"that he was looking at us both.

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"And I turned to the window and looked out there at some shrubs

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"that were drooping their heads in the cold."

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The young Copperfield is the camera in this picture,

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and everything we're perceiving,

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we're reading about, is done, as it's perceived, through his eyes.

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"And I turned to the window..."

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and that thing of childhood where as you grow up,

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if you receive bad news,

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if there's been a sudden dramatic moment,

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you instantly recall the first image you saw at the time,

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an image that, no matter how insignificant it appears,

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still burns there in your heart with significance.

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This whole process in these first few chapters of David Copperfield

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is not just a fascinating story from the perspective of the little boy

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but actually quite a modern, experimental exercise in language.

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He's not like a serious novelist,

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who would very consciously set out to impress us

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with the stylistic mastery he has

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over a description of child psychology.

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Instead he wants to write himself out of the picture.

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He doesn't want us to feel written at by an author.

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Instead he wants us to be pulled in to the work,

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and to watch it and observe it from the perspective of the little boy,

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sitting low, on the floor, at the world around him.

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'Dickens's lifelong sympathy with the way children think

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'actually affected everything he wrote.'

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The very first time I took my son to see a film at the cinema,

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afterwards I asked him what he thought.

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He said it was very good, just like a DVD you could only see once.

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And it's that ability as a child to describe something

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no way an adult would, that Dickens always carried around with him.

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'Dickens wrote children's stories for adults.

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'He stressed the power of the imagination,

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'the power a child has in abundance,

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'as a way of describing and reacting to

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'the world he saw around us.

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'Even as he matured as a writer, his novels read like fairy tales,

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'of heroes growing up with wicked step-parents, running away,

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'gaining vast fortunes, being lost and found.'

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'In 1849 Dickens published the first instalment of David Copperfield.

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'Like all his novels, it was released as a serial,

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'issued in 19 monthly parts.

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'Dickens was writing only weeks before his audience was reading him.'

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'The original manuscript is housed

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'in the National Art Library at London's Victoria and Albert Museum,

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'and I looked to see if it betrayed any signs of the relentless pressure

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'Dickens must have been under.'

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Am I allowed to touch them?

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Yes, please. Please do. Open it.

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It starts off with part number three,

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the first volume had the first two parts.

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"Personal history and experience of David Copperfield.

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"Chapter seven."

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I'm seeing if I can read it.

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"School began in earnest that day."

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It is quite... This would go off to the printers?

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-This would go to the printers.

-They could decipher this?

-Yes!

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But look at this, this is a mess, isn't it?

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This is in fact, extremely,

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really neat...

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-Really?

-..And clear.

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You can tell that because the compositors,

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when they set from these manuscripts were extremely accurate.

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So he's writing these novels almost live, in a way.

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People are watching him write, in that he doesn't quite know...

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He has a rough idea where he wants to go,

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but doesn't quite know how it's going to end.

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He seems to have been fairly disciplined.

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He had a copy date of the 20th of each month.

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And he was normally two, three weeks in advance.

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-Really?

-So he was relatively good at keeping up with...

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The idea of being two weeks in advance of any writing deadline,

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to me is completely alien, I have to say!

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I don't want to read too much analysis into the handwriting

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but I get the sense of a very, very restless, unsettled personality.

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You know, having been a lifelong Dickens fan, to have this...

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I am like a kid in a sweetie shop at the moment.

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But a sweetie shop run by a guy who makes bloody good sweets.

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'Dickens started his writing career first as a court reporter

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'and then as a parliamentary sketch writer.

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'He was trained to be fast, vivid and entertaining.

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'So it's no surprise when he had his first piece of fiction published in 1833, when he was just 21,

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'that it was in the form of a comic short story.

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'And more, much more comedy, was to follow.'

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As a kid I was two things - I was very bookish, you know,

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I loved reading, and I was also into comedy, but I always regarded those two worlds as being quite separate.

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Literature was serious, and for the funny stuff,

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I spent all my money on comics and listening to great radio shows

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like Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy.

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And then I remember when I got hooked on Dickens, I picked up The Old Curiosity Shop, as you do,

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and very early on, I came across this episode

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where there's a great guy called Dick Swiveller

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who has no money. And he's in a pub, and he's bought a meal.

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And he says to the innkeeper he'll come round later that night

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and pay for it, and writes something down in a book.

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And his friend says to him,

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"Are you just writing down a reminder to come back this evening?"

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and Dick says, "Not exactly, Fred.

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"I enter into this little book the names of the streets that I can't go down while the shops are open.

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"This dinner today closes Long Acre.

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"I bought a pair of boots in Great Queen Street last week

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"and made that no thoroughfare too.

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"There's only one avenue to the Strand left open now,

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"and I shall have to stop up that tonight with a pair of gloves."

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So what Dick Swiveller's doing is he's got a mental map of London

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and he's just crossing out the streets he can't move down,

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because he owes people money there.

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And I was thinking, that's funny, but it reminds me of something,

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it reminds me of a stand-up comedy routine or a sketch,

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or that Charlie Chaplin scene where he's quite happily eating his own shoes

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because he has no food left and no money to buy some.

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And that for me was a great eye-opener about Dickens.

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I think we're put off by this notion we have of Charles Dickens

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as this great Victorian novelist, because it implies he's serious,

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whereas in fact I think he's the finest comedian we've ever produced.

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'By that I mean, much comedy today is still conditioned

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'by the way Dickens wrote it in the 19th century,

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'and comedy writers and performers today owe a huge debt to him.

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'Other people who work in comedy think so too.'

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There's this thing about Mrs Gamp.

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Oh, Mrs Gamp who's the nurse in Martin Chuzzlewit.

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This sentence where he goes,

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"It was difficult to enjoy her society

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"without becoming conscious of a smell of spirits."

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So what he's basically saying is "This woman stank of alcohol".

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The way he puts it, "It was difficult to enjoy her company!"

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But Mrs Gamp, again, is kind of like a character from Psychoville,

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she's this small, squat woman.

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What you can do is, you can put a bottle of spirits on the side.

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She says, "I may take a drink. Or I may not.

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"It just depends on how I'll be disposed."

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She'll drink the whole lot is what will happen.

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I'm devoted to Pickwick Papers. And Mr Jingle.

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He's a complete conman. A real con.

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And he speaks very fast so nobody else can get a word in.

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Bang-bang-bang, like a machine gun. He's a very funny character.

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It's desperately dark, as well. Like...

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It's a man talking about how a woman's head was knocked off

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by the top of an arch, in front of her children and then he's going,

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"She couldn't even eat a sandwich. She didn't have a head any more."

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" 'Heads, heads, take care of your heads', cried a loquacious stranger

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"as they came out under the low archway, which in those days formed the entrance to the coach yard.

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"Terrible place - dangerous work - other day - five children - mother - tall lady -

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"eating sandwiches - forgot the arch - crash - knock - children looked round -

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"mother's head off - sandwich in her hand -

0:21:010:21:03

"no mouth to put it in - head of a family off -

0:21:030:21:05

"shocking - shocking. Didn't keep a sharp look out enough, eh? Eh, sir? Eh?"

0:21:050:21:10

THEY LAUGH

0:21:100:21:11

That's Peston on about 17 espressos.

0:21:110:21:15

THEY LAUGH

0:21:150:21:17

Yes! That's spot on.

0:21:170:21:19

It's that sense of the rhythms of colloquialisms and the way people speak.

0:21:190:21:24

Because in reality, we don't finish our sentences and we all interrupt each other.

0:21:240:21:28

That's the performer in him.

0:21:280:21:30

There's a bit from Bleak House here with a little child roadsweeper.

0:21:300:21:35

"She says to me, she says, 'Are you the boy at the inquich?'

0:21:350:21:38

"I says 'Yes', she says to me, she says, 'You could show me all them places'. I says, 'Yes, I can',

0:21:380:21:43

"she says to me, 'Do it' and I done it, and she give me a sovereign and I hooked it.

0:21:430:21:46

"I hadn't much of the sovereign neither. I had to pay five bob down in old Tom Alone's

0:21:460:21:50

" 'fore they'd square it to give me change and then a young man thieved another fiver while I was asleep.

0:21:500:21:56

"Another boy thieved ninepence."

0:21:560:21:57

I'm half expecting you now to go "Am I bovvered?"

0:21:570:22:01

Exactly, yeah.

0:22:010:22:03

'Dickens's comedy still seems fresh,

0:22:140:22:17

'but it's the dark and serious nature of his themes

0:22:170:22:20

'that make his novels seem surprisingly modern.

0:22:200:22:24

'And there's no more dominant theme in those novels...than money.'

0:22:240:22:29

'In Dickens's world, heroes and villains are obsessed with money -

0:22:340:22:39

'how to get it, what to do with it,

0:22:390:22:42

'and above all, the terror of losing it.

0:22:420:22:44

'A huge fear of debt and poverty

0:22:440:22:46

'can be traced back to Dickens's own childhood.

0:22:460:22:50

'His father, John Dickens, was forever in debt,

0:22:500:22:53

'and at one point endured the public shame

0:22:530:22:56

'of being sent to debtors' prison.'

0:22:560:22:58

'Charles was taken out of school, and aged 12, was sent to work

0:23:000:23:04

'in a shoe polish warehouse to feed his family.

0:23:040:23:07

'The experience haunted him for the rest of his life.'

0:23:070:23:11

'When he came to write David Copperfield,

0:23:170:23:20

'Dickens poured many of these feelings

0:23:200:23:23

'into the serial debtor Mr Micawber.'

0:23:230:23:26

Now, Mr Micawber is such a brilliant character.

0:23:310:23:34

I think we have this image of him from TV adaptations

0:23:340:23:38

of being just a sort of gregarious, fat, rather optimistic chap who,

0:23:380:23:41

even though he has no money, is always talking about his expectation

0:23:410:23:45

that something is just around the corner,

0:23:450:23:48

something is going to turn up.

0:23:480:23:49

It's so different when you read the book.

0:23:490:23:52

There, it's a much more sophisticated, painful read,

0:23:520:23:55

because Micawber can start off by being very affectionate

0:23:550:23:58

and outgoing and full of high spirits,

0:23:580:24:01

and there's a genuine affection between him and Copperfield.

0:24:010:24:04

But within seconds, as soon as the realisation comes upon him

0:24:040:24:09

of the debt that he carries,

0:24:090:24:10

Micawber is reduced to being an almost childlike, self-pitying

0:24:100:24:15

little creature, railing about how he's doomed for the debtors' prison.

0:24:150:24:19

He starts making knife-cutting gestures across his throat

0:24:190:24:23

and talks about what a tragic figure he is.

0:24:230:24:25

And then he can pull himself together

0:24:250:24:27

and start singing songs and dancing the hornpipe.

0:24:270:24:30

It's a very realistic and affectionate,

0:24:300:24:33

and yet frustrated look at the twisted poison

0:24:330:24:37

that can be injected into someone's personality

0:24:370:24:39

by this awareness of debt.

0:24:390:24:41

It's so hard to read,

0:24:410:24:43

you almost have to put your fingers across your eyes as you read it.

0:24:430:24:47

This looks like Julius Caesar.

0:24:540:24:56

-That is Julius Caesar. That was the Leeds Playhouse.

-Right.

0:24:560:25:00

'For 63-year-old actor Ian Hurley,

0:25:000:25:02

'Dickens's portrait of Micawber has a special significance.

0:25:020:25:08

'When work dried up, Ian found himself in debt,

0:25:080:25:13

'owing the bank £40,000.'

0:25:130:25:15

Mr Micawber, you can see that when he has these highs and lows

0:25:210:25:27

and when someone has a debt problem, it really doesn't go...

0:25:270:25:33

It, it... You see how he's trying to escape from it.

0:25:330:25:37

Well, here's the passage which describes that sense of being up and down

0:25:370:25:42

that goes through Mr Micawber.

0:25:420:25:43

"It was nothing at all unusual for Mr Micawber to sob violently

0:25:430:25:48

"at the beginning of one of these Saturday night conversations

0:25:480:25:51

"and sing about Jack's delight being his lovely Nan towards the end of it.

0:25:510:25:55

"I've known him come home to supper with a flood of tears

0:25:550:25:58

"and a declaration that nothing was now left but a jail

0:25:580:26:01

"and go to bed making a calculation of the expense

0:26:010:26:04

"of putting bow windows on the house in case anything turned up, which was his favourite expression."

0:26:040:26:10

It will give you a high and a low and can make you cry.

0:26:100:26:15

You can even be driving along in your car and you think about this and you cry. But to....

0:26:150:26:21

Why the high? Where does the high come from?

0:26:210:26:24

Well, the high is the telling yourself that it's OK.

0:26:240:26:28

Because of the presence of the worry of debt you will take highs from it

0:26:280:26:32

to remove the... Let's say to remove the depression of it.

0:26:320:26:36

And I think this is where the highs come and the crying and the emotion.

0:26:360:26:40

And he does great flourishes.

0:26:400:26:42

He suddenly... When he's trying to enjoy himself

0:26:420:26:45

he enjoys himself very, very noisily and energetically,

0:26:450:26:48

as if to show there's nothing wrong.

0:26:480:26:50

And that's very interesting.

0:26:500:26:52

To show there's nothing wrong, to show that it's OK.

0:26:520:26:55

"It's OK, yeah, fine, come and have another drink! It's fine."

0:26:550:26:59

And someone says to you, "You look a bit sad, you look a bit tense."

0:26:590:27:04

You say, "No, no, no, I'm fine, it's OK!"

0:27:040:27:06

And the other thing he does is sometimes pretend that he's paying stuff back,

0:27:060:27:12

but he'll know he's running up a debt

0:27:120:27:14

and with a great flourish he'll write an I-O-U.

0:27:140:27:17

I think that's wonderful. I think it's a wonderful idea.

0:27:170:27:20

I just wish I could write a few I-O-Us to the bank and say,

0:27:200:27:24

"Well, that's you paid!"

0:27:240:27:26

'Micawber is a brilliant creation on his own.

0:27:320:27:35

'But what Dickens also does is show how debt spreads like an infection,

0:27:350:27:41

'so that it extends its hold beyond Micawber

0:27:410:27:44

'on to anybody who he befriends.'

0:27:440:27:47

Like David Copperfield's friend Tommy Traddles

0:27:490:27:52

who sells a number of objects to the pawn shop to raise some money for Micawber.

0:27:520:27:57

And then one day Traddles decides there's one thing he really wants back from that pawn shop,

0:27:570:28:02

a little decorative pot given to him by his girlfriend.

0:28:020:28:06

'As the pawnbroker will only sell it back to Traddles

0:28:090:28:12

'at an inflated price, he begs Peggotty to buy it back for him.

0:28:120:28:18

'Leaving Traddles himself waiting anxiously around the corner.'

0:28:180:28:23

'At first Peggotty leaves empty-handed,

0:28:250:28:30

'but then the broker calls her back.'

0:28:300:28:33

'And finally she returns, triumphant.'

0:28:350:28:38

It's like a scene from a film, it's like a farce,

0:28:460:28:49

where money is reduced to something very small, very specific

0:28:490:28:54

and yet very, very meaningful.

0:28:540:28:58

'When Dickens wrote David Copperfield

0:29:090:29:11

'his public image was of a restless but nonetheless contented family man.'

0:29:110:29:17

'He'd been married to Catherine Dickens for 13 years

0:29:190:29:22

'and with their brood of eight children it seemed like they had a happy home.'

0:29:220:29:27

'Privately, though, Dickens developed misgivings about Catherine's suitability as a wife

0:29:310:29:37

'and there were quiet strains within the marriage.'

0:29:370:29:40

'In David Copperfield we can sense Dickens's own ambivalence towards his marriage

0:29:420:29:47

'in his portrayal of David's relationship with his wife, Dora.'

0:29:470:29:51

'Impulsive and immature, David is at first blind to the fact

0:29:550:30:00

'that Dora is wrong for him.'

0:30:000:30:02

'But wiser friends and family can see trouble coming from the start.'

0:30:040:30:09

Here's a scene with David and his aunt Betsey Trotwood,

0:30:110:30:14

and the loudest sound in this whole passage is of Betsy Trotwood biting her lip.

0:30:140:30:20

"So you fancy yourself in love, do you?"

0:30:200:30:24

"Fancy, Aunt?" I exclaimed as red as I could be.

0:30:240:30:27

"I adore her with my whole soul."

0:30:270:30:30

"Dora indeed!" returned my Aunt.

0:30:300:30:33

"And you mean to say the little thing is very fascinating, I suppose?"

0:30:330:30:36

"My dear Aunt, no-one could form the least idea what she is."

0:30:360:30:40

"Ah! And not silly?" said my aunt.

0:30:400:30:44

"Silly, Aunt?"

0:30:440:30:45

"Not light-headed?" "Light-headed, Aunt?"

0:30:450:30:49

I could only repeat this daring speculation.

0:30:490:30:52

"Well, well, I only ask. I don't depreciate her.

0:30:520:30:56

"Poor little couple. And so you think you were formed for one another

0:30:560:30:59

"and are to go through a party-supper-table kind of life,

0:30:590:31:02

"like two pretty pieces of confectionary?

0:31:020:31:05

"Do you, Trot?"

0:31:050:31:07

It's a difficult, uncomfortable read

0:31:070:31:10

as you go through this plotline in the book.

0:31:100:31:14

It's a daring, sophisticated, brutal analysis

0:31:140:31:19

of two young people committing nuptial suicide.

0:31:190:31:23

'It's almost as if Dickens was toying with the boundaries

0:31:280:31:33

'that separated his private life from public gaze.

0:31:330:31:37

'In 1859, he and Catherine had another child, a girl,

0:31:370:31:41

'and they called her...Dora.'

0:31:410:31:45

Meanwhile the fictional Dora was proving far, far too much

0:31:460:31:50

for the novel to bear.

0:31:500:31:53

The love story was staining the rest of the novel

0:31:530:31:56

with a mood of bitterness and guilt.

0:31:560:31:59

The marriage between Dora and David had to come to an end.

0:31:590:32:03

But in Victorian times it would have been improper for it to end

0:32:030:32:07

with divorce or even separation.

0:32:070:32:10

So Dickens has Dora fall ill

0:32:100:32:13

and quite suddenly and quite conveniently die.

0:32:130:32:18

Now, his daughter was born a week before Dora is killed in the novel

0:32:230:32:27

and at the time Dickens writes to his wife Catherine,

0:32:270:32:31

"I'm uncertain of my movements, for after another splitting day

0:32:310:32:34

"I still have Dora to kill.

0:32:340:32:37

"I mean the Copperfield Dora!"

0:32:370:32:39

SEAGULLS CAW

0:32:440:32:47

'This is Broadstairs on the Kent coast.'

0:32:530:32:57

'Dickens often brought his family here in the summer

0:32:590:33:03

'to escape from the crowds and heat of London.'

0:33:030:33:06

'The year he was finishing David Copperfield

0:33:100:33:13

'they stayed at Fort House, since renamed Bleak House.'

0:33:130:33:17

'It's occasionally open to the public

0:33:200:33:22

'but it's also home to Richard and Jackie Hilton.

0:33:220:33:26

'And they have a sometimes unorthodox take

0:33:260:33:30

'on the life of Charles Dickens.'

0:33:300:33:32

We're just going into the Charles Dickens dining room...

0:33:320:33:36

-Right.

-..which is where he used to, um...from all reports,

0:33:360:33:42

have a seven or eight-course breakfast.

0:33:420:33:46

That would finish me off, that would.

0:33:460:33:48

-I'd be in bed for an hour after.

-Yeah, me too.

0:33:480:33:51

And no doubt people come and ask you all sorts of questions.

0:33:510:33:55

Well, they do, yeah, but I don't know that much.

0:33:550:33:58

Only that he was married with seven children.

0:33:580:34:03

-Nine.

-Sorry, nine children.

0:34:030:34:07

THEY LAUGH

0:34:070:34:10

-But he had quite a few women on the side.

-Oh, did he now?

0:34:100:34:14

Well, I know about one. You reckon there were all sorts going on?

0:34:140:34:18

Yeah, for sure.

0:34:180:34:20

-So this would have been living quarters as well.

-Yeah.

0:34:220:34:26

-I mean, did you know much about Dickens before the house?

-Nothing at all.

0:34:260:34:31

And how do you feel now, six years on?

0:34:310:34:33

Do you feel there's this other presence around? This life that you've....

0:34:330:34:37

Well, you can hear soldiers sometimes.

0:34:370:34:39

-Hear soldiers?

-You can hear soldiers, Cos this was called Fort House

0:34:390:34:44

and we did contact Most Haunted

0:34:440:34:46

cos I thought it would be good for people to know.

0:34:460:34:48

-A Christmas Special!

-Yeah!

0:34:480:34:52

-And this is at night?

-At night. But the voices are in the daytime.

0:34:520:34:57

What voices? Where do these voices come from?

0:34:570:34:59

You hear a woman's voice, and she'll say, "Not again!" in a very posh voice.

0:34:590:35:05

Let's get out. Let's... This is extraordinary! I didn't know any of this.

0:35:060:35:13

-Where are we going? In here?

-This is Charles Dickens's bedroom.

-Uh-huh?

0:35:140:35:19

Um...

0:35:190:35:21

And I gather there's a cellar, someone was saying?

0:35:210:35:24

-Yes, that's right.

-And what did Dickens use the cellar for, then?

0:35:240:35:27

I think mainly probably some of his staff slept in it.

0:35:270:35:31

But I think he also used it for contraband.

0:35:310:35:36

-Contraband?

-Contraband, yeah.

0:35:360:35:38

When he died,

0:35:380:35:40

there were two 50-gallon drums - barrels, rather - of tobacco

0:35:400:35:46

and 2,000 bottles of brandy found in the cellar.

0:35:460:35:51

Oh, that's completely coloured my view of him

0:35:510:35:53

as being a respectable member of society!

0:35:530:35:56

Now, look at this.

0:36:100:36:12

This is where Dickens wrote.

0:36:120:36:15

This is where he finished David Copperfield.

0:36:150:36:18

His little airy nest, as he called it.

0:36:180:36:20

And it's about the size of a nest, it is quite small.

0:36:200:36:23

I'm surprised how small it is.

0:36:230:36:25

It's almost like he forced himself to sit down and write.

0:36:250:36:31

It's the Victorian equivalent of a writer

0:36:310:36:34

switching off his mobile phone and disconnecting the internet

0:36:340:36:39

to avoid all distractions here.

0:36:390:36:41

But here is where this whole room

0:36:410:36:45

forces you to look out towards the sea.

0:36:450:36:49

In David Copperfield, he describes towards the end of the novel,

0:36:490:36:53

a gargantuan storm scene that kills several major characters in the novel.

0:36:530:37:00

I won't reveal the names, that would spoil things.

0:37:000:37:03

And Dickens himself found these quite traumatic scenes,

0:37:030:37:08

not just in the storm, but as the novel reached its conclusion,

0:37:080:37:12

quite difficult to finish.

0:37:120:37:14

He says he was nearly "clean knocked over" by the writing of it.

0:37:140:37:18

At one point he says, "It defeated me."

0:37:180:37:20

In actual fact, those scenes were some of the most powerful scenes that Dickens had written to date.

0:37:200:37:26

And he did it here, at this desk.

0:37:260:37:29

Let's see if I can get some inspiration.

0:37:290:37:33

Maybe for my next link.

0:37:340:37:36

As I look out towards the sea, just drink it all in.

0:37:360:37:42

'Dickens's popularity rested not just on his characters and stories,

0:38:010:38:06

'but also on his satire.'

0:38:060:38:08

'His early works savage the Victorian governing classes'

0:38:120:38:17

'appalling treatment of its dispossessed.'

0:38:170:38:19

'And as he wrote more and more,

0:38:220:38:24

'he poured derision on ever vaster sections of society.'

0:38:240:38:29

'As Dickens grew more successful, he was welcomed into the British establishment,

0:38:330:38:37

'and the closer he looked at that establishment,'

0:38:370:38:40

the surer he was that it was rotten to the core.

0:38:400:38:45

And that's why, in the later novels,

0:38:450:38:47

it's this world that he wants to show us up close.

0:38:470:38:51

Welcome to Dickensopolis.

0:38:510:38:54

'Today, Dickens's satire still stings.

0:39:030:39:07

'In the novel Little Dorrit, he caricatures

0:39:070:39:10

'the way the country is run by "the Circumlocution Office." '

0:39:100:39:15

"The Circumlocution Office was the most important department under government.

0:39:180:39:22

"Its finger was in the largest public pie

0:39:220:39:25

"and in the smallest public tart.

0:39:250:39:28

"If another gunpowder plot had been discovered half an hour before the lighting of the match,

0:39:280:39:32

"nobody would have been justified in saving the parliament

0:39:320:39:36

"until there had been half a score of boards, half a bushel of minutes,

0:39:360:39:40

"several sacks of official memoranda and a family vault full of

0:39:400:39:44

"ungrammatical correspondence on the part of the Circumlocution Office."

0:39:440:39:49

Dickens's description of bureaucracy run riot

0:39:520:39:55

really set the template

0:39:550:39:57

for any satirical take on government written ever since.

0:39:570:40:01

In this, we have the beginnings of Big Brother

0:40:010:40:04

in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four,

0:40:040:40:07

Sir Humphrey Appleby in Yes, Minister

0:40:070:40:10

and even the obstructiveness and obtuseness

0:40:100:40:13

that Harry Potter meets from the Ministry of Magic.

0:40:130:40:17

'One of Dickens's favourite targets was the law.'

0:40:230:40:26

'The novel Bleak House is set against the background

0:40:300:40:35

'of a disputed inheritance and the infamous, long-running

0:40:350:40:38

'Chancery lawsuit of Jarndyce v Jarndyce.'

0:40:380:40:42

The case of Jarndyce and Jarndyce

0:40:450:40:48

is based on a long-running Chancery dispute

0:40:480:40:51

that I'm sure Tony Arlidge has at his fingertips and can tell us all about.

0:40:510:40:56

I was in it. I appeared in it!

0:40:560:40:58

But that was an actual case which I think lasted 20-odd years.

0:40:580:41:03

'I met Judge John Lafferty,

0:41:030:41:06

'the first visually impaired judge on the bench,

0:41:060:41:09

'senior barrister Antony Arlidge QC

0:41:090:41:12

'and Ellis Sareen, also a barrister, to see

0:41:120:41:15

'how well they thought Dickens made his case,

0:41:150:41:18

'and whether there's still a case to answer.'

0:41:180:41:21

We also need to remember in all of this

0:41:210:41:23

-that he has got this fantastic vividness of phrase.

-He has.

0:41:230:41:27

When the Lord Chancellor comes in,

0:41:270:41:30

all the barristers in their white wigs and black gowns get up and bow

0:41:300:41:34

like "so many pianoforte keys".

0:41:340:41:39

Even now, there are days in the Courts of Chancery where there are

0:41:390:41:42

quite a large number of barristers present at one time.

0:41:420:41:45

And in just one little phrase, he absolutely encapsulates that.

0:41:450:41:53

Do you feel that Dickens presents

0:41:530:41:56

a fair portrait of how the law operated at the time that he was writing?

0:41:560:42:00

He's out to pillory the way in which institutions can evolve

0:42:000:42:04

so that they're there to serve as much

0:42:040:42:06

the interests of their practitioners,

0:42:060:42:08

to the detriment of the vulnerable, the poor and the needy,

0:42:080:42:13

as they are to right the wrongs in society.

0:42:130:42:16

Central to it, actually, is something that remains a problem -

0:42:160:42:19

that very often, particularly with small civil claims,

0:42:190:42:24

the cost of the legal proceedings is bound to exceed

0:42:240:42:27

the damages that are obtained.

0:42:270:42:30

Yes. In the time of Bleak House,

0:42:300:42:32

there were lawyers who prolonged litigation for their own advantage.

0:42:320:42:36

There have been ever since, and there always will be.

0:42:360:42:39

That's always going to be a problem.

0:42:390:42:41

One thing I do want to ask is,

0:42:410:42:43

when you read these accounts of the law,

0:42:430:42:46

do you feel implicated or part of that?

0:42:460:42:49

There's always a tendency... for example, politicians looking at The Thick Of It would tell me

0:42:490:42:53

"Oh, I know someone just like that." It's never themselves,

0:42:530:42:58

but it's always someone that they know.

0:42:580:43:00

I just wonder how you feel?

0:43:000:43:02

It's a fair cop, guv. You've got me bang to rights.

0:43:020:43:05

Some of it's timeless. Yeah... and you see it all the time.

0:43:050:43:10

Not me, obviously.

0:43:100:43:11

The great thing about it is that it is hugely entertaining.

0:43:110:43:18

That's right, the great thing about Dickens is his theatricality.

0:43:180:43:21

It's a series of vivid scenes.

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And how about today? If Dickens were writing today, then,

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what in the way the system works now, is there anything you think

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he would immediately seize on?

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Oh, I don't think he'd be short of material.

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'It's not just in our institutions that we can sometimes spot

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'the timelessness of Dickens's attacks.'

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'The characters who dominate his institutions can seem familiar too.

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'Today, we may have the likes of Mr Murdoch, but in Little Dorrit,

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'Dickens gives us a Mr Merdle.'

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"Mr Merdle was immensely rich; a man of prodigious enterprise;

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"a Midas who turned all he touched to gold.

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"He was in everything good, from banking to building.

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"He was in Parliament, of course. He was in the City necessarily.

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"The weightiest of men had said to projectors

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"What name have you got? Have you got Merdle?" And the reply being in the negative

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had said "Then I won't look at you."

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The whole novel is a depiction partly of this figure.

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One figure, Merdle, moving through society,

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and first the politicians and then the media

0:44:370:44:40

and then the law all come to pay homage to him.

0:44:400:44:44

But he himself is a strange shadowy figure whose bank collapses,

0:44:440:44:48

whose money fritters away and who ends up killing himself in a bath.

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It's a frightening and sadly familiar depiction

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of the whole of British society

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converging around one man who tries to control it,

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and in the end...imploding.

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Now, surely something as horrific as that,

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150 years ago, couldn't happen today.

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I mean, we know so much more now, don't we?

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'It wasn't just as a novelist

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'that Dickens expressed his views on society.

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'As a journalist, and then as a magazine editor,

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'he had the chance to publish his observations on everything.

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'And he fed his enormous appetite for the detail of life

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'by taking long walks almost every day,

0:45:450:45:48

'regularly clocking up to 20 miles.'

0:45:480:45:50

'As he walked, he observed every little oddity -

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'a weird play of light,

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'or the strange bend of a nose on a passer-by.'

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'And he was most inspired by the walks he took at night.'

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There's a fantastic essay that he wrote called "Night Walks"

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in which he describes wandering over to an insane asylum,

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Bethlehem Hospital, a house full of lunatics.

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And he goes there because he has a particular fancy in his head.

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"Are not the sane and the insane

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"equal at night as the sane lie adreaming?"

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"Are not all of us outside this hospital who dream more or less

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"in the condition of those inside it every night of our lives?"

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Basically, we're as mad as the people inside at night,

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by what goes on inside our head in our dreams.

0:46:500:46:53

"Said an afflicted man to me

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"when I was last in a hospital like this,

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" 'Sir, I can frequently fly!'

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"I was half-ashamed to reflect that so could I, by night.

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"Said a woman to me on the same occasion,

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" 'Queen Victoria comes to dine with me,

0:47:060:47:09

" 'and Her Majesty and I dine off peaches and macaroni in our nightgowns.'

0:47:090:47:14

"Could I refrain from reddening with consciousness when I remembered

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"the amazing royal parties I myself had given at night?"

0:47:180:47:21

That's what I love about Dickens, his ability to come up

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with a conclusion or make an observation

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you'd think would be bizarre,

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but actually, when you hear it, seems perfectly natural.

0:47:280:47:32

That's why I think the night plays such a prominent role

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in his writing, because it gives him this ability

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to take those two worlds, the everyday and the familiar

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and the unfamiliar, the dark and the mysterious,

0:47:410:47:44

and superimpose them on each other simultaneously,

0:47:440:47:47

so that throughout his writing,

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those two worlds are weaving in and out of each other,

0:47:490:47:52

so at no one point do you know exactly where you stand.

0:47:520:47:56

'All sorts of human pathologies intrigued Dickens,

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'and David Copperfield includes an extraordinary character

0:48:170:48:20

'who suffers from delusions.'

0:48:200:48:22

'But instead of being shut up in an asylum,

0:48:230:48:26

'he's been taken in by David's Aunt Betsey.

0:48:260:48:30

'He's the rather marvellous Mr Dick.'

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'Mr Dick is one of the strangest, most peculiar characters

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'I've ever encountered,

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'not just in a Dickens novel, but in any novel.

0:48:450:48:49

'For most of his life, he's been writing a project'

0:48:520:48:55

which he calls The Memorial.

0:48:550:48:57

We never quite get to the bottom of what The Memorial is.

0:48:570:49:00

It's this very nebulous historical document that he's trying to write,

0:49:000:49:04

but his work on a daily basis is interrupted by thoughts

0:49:040:49:08

in his head about the execution of King Charles I.

0:49:080:49:13

These thoughts torture and torment him,

0:49:130:49:16

and the only thing he can do to get this these thoughts of the execution of Charles I out of his head

0:49:160:49:22

is to write them down on big pieces of paper,

0:49:220:49:25

to gather those bits of paper up and to fashion a paper kite out of them

0:49:250:49:30

and to go outside and fly the kite in the air.

0:49:300:49:34

Now, when I describe it like that,

0:49:340:49:36

you might think that sounds so deranged and bizarre

0:49:360:49:39

that it's unbelievable, and yet when you read David's account

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of his relationship with Mr Dick,

0:49:430:49:44

it suddenly seems believable.

0:49:440:49:48

"I used to fancy as I sat by him of an evening on a green slope

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"and saw him watch the kite high in the quiet air

0:49:530:49:56

"that it lifted his mind out of its confusion

0:49:560:49:59

"and bore it into the skies.

0:49:590:50:02

"As he wound the string in and it came lower and lower down

0:50:020:50:06

"out of the beautiful light till it fluttered to the ground

0:50:060:50:09

"and lay there like a dead thing,

0:50:090:50:12

"he seemed to wake gradually out a dream,

0:50:120:50:14

"and I remembered to have seen him take it up

0:50:140:50:16

"and look about him in a lost way,

0:50:160:50:18

"as if they had both come down together,

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"so that I pitied him with all my heart."

0:50:210:50:25

The truth is, we're not really looking at some grotesque eccentric,

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exaggerated for our amusement.

0:50:320:50:35

With Mr Dick, we're watching a quite accurate

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and heartrendingly real portrayal of someone with a mental illness.

0:50:380:50:44

In fact, some have commented with the benefit of hindsight

0:50:440:50:47

that Dickens's own manic behaviour may have indicated

0:50:470:50:50

signs of an element of bipolarity in his personality.

0:50:500:50:56

Now, whatever the truth of that is, you can't help but feel

0:50:560:51:00

that Dickens himself saw the world in this unique way.

0:51:000:51:04

He even described, in a letter, his own imagination as an infirmity,

0:51:040:51:09

a tendency to fancy or perceive relations between things

0:51:090:51:13

that are not apparent generally.

0:51:130:51:16

Which is what Mr Dick does.

0:51:160:51:19

I really do think it's no exaggeration to say

0:51:190:51:23

that Mr Dick is a heightened version of Mr Dickens.

0:51:230:51:26

'In 1850, as he finished David Copperfield,

0:51:380:51:42

'Dickens was still in control

0:51:420:51:44

'not only of his fanciful, but also his darker thoughts.

0:51:440:51:49

'But this didn't last.

0:51:490:51:51

'Seven years later,

0:51:510:51:54

'what he had subconsciously expressed in the novel

0:51:540:51:57

'seeped into reality, and he left his wife.

0:51:570:52:00

'He then pursued a relationship

0:52:000:52:03

'he'd begun with a 19-year-old actress, Ellen Ternan.'

0:52:030:52:06

'Yet the pressure of keeping the liaison secret,

0:52:080:52:12

'together with growing panic that his talent would desert him,

0:52:120:52:16

'began to make him ill.'

0:52:160:52:17

'But Dickens refused to slow down.

0:52:210:52:24

'In 1867, he embarked on a series of public reading tours,

0:52:240:52:31

'determined to power on.'

0:52:310:52:33

This is Dickens's own annotated reading copy of the scene

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in which Sykes kills Nancy in Oliver Twist.

0:52:450:52:51

And this was the highlight of Dickens's public readings.

0:52:510:52:56

It had people fainting in the aisles and running out.

0:52:560:52:59

And you can see it's got his underlinings

0:52:590:53:02

and emphasis where he is signalling to himself

0:53:020:53:06

that he's going to pause and add dramatic action.

0:53:060:53:09

We've got here little marks in the side margin. "Beckon down",

0:53:090:53:13

"You won't be too violent", underlining, "murder coming".

0:53:130:53:18

That's a little note to himself now to shift up another gear.

0:53:180:53:22

We're in the home stretch of this bludgeoning.

0:53:220:53:27

And once we get up to the moment of the murder itself,

0:53:270:53:31

this is turning into quite a passionate, violent,

0:53:310:53:36

very physical performance here.

0:53:360:53:39

The annotations are now scarring the whole of the text here.

0:53:390:53:43

"Action!" "Mystery!" "Terror to the end." "Dashed out his brains!!"

0:53:430:53:49

Double exclamation mark at the end.

0:53:490:53:51

Dickens's public readings were quite sensational.

0:53:510:53:56

They were the hottest ticket in town. They were wildly popular.

0:53:560:54:00

People would queue up overnight. The place would be mobbed.

0:54:000:54:04

It was like Lady Gaga coming to town.

0:54:040:54:06

His tour of America was quite strenuous and energetic,

0:54:060:54:13

and really fatigued him. He was quite ill.

0:54:130:54:15

But Dickens couldn't help but throw himself into it,

0:54:150:54:19

physically and mentally.

0:54:190:54:21

Many say that in particular,

0:54:210:54:23

it was his performance of the reading of the Sykes and Nancy scene

0:54:230:54:27

that in the end killed him.

0:54:270:54:29

'In June 1870, Dickens suffered a stroke, and died at home.

0:54:390:54:45

'He was 58, and he was halfway through writing a new novel.

0:54:450:54:51

'It was a small, unremarkable ending

0:54:510:54:54

'for a writer that had lived such a large, remarkable life.

0:54:540:55:00

'But then Dickens never was very comfortable with endings.'

0:55:000:55:05

'David Copperfield finishes with a whole host of characters, including Mr Micawber,

0:55:100:55:14

'sailing off to Australia to start a new life.'

0:55:140:55:18

'And they succeed. Micawber grows prosperous,

0:55:220:55:26

'while at home, David marries again and lives happily ever after.'

0:55:260:55:30

'But this ending doesn't feel so happy when we shut the book.'

0:55:320:55:37

For me, Dickens's endings are disappointing.

0:55:410:55:47

I know I'm going to be hauled over the coals

0:55:470:55:50

by militant Dickensian Taliban for saying that,

0:55:500:55:53

but I feel that Dickens hated finishing his novels

0:55:530:55:57

and his heart wasn't in it.

0:55:570:56:00

It's when his characters are restless and struggling

0:56:000:56:04

and energetic that they're at their most animated,

0:56:040:56:07

and it's when they become static that something goes out of them.

0:56:070:56:10

For Dickens, I think a happy ending is dull.

0:56:100:56:14

It's how people struggle to try and attain a happy ending

0:56:140:56:18

that's much, much more interesting.

0:56:180:56:20

'It's over 170 years since Dickens published his first novel,

0:56:270:56:32

'and readers still find his work surprisingly fresh.'

0:56:320:56:37

The thing about Dickens is, it stands up so well.

0:56:390:56:42

A lot of the humour is entirely modern.

0:56:420:56:45

It is gripping.

0:56:450:56:46

He has great plots. He has the most incredible characterisation,

0:56:460:56:51

but always with a sort of psychological basis.

0:56:510:56:54

Whoever he writes about, even if it's a sort of loathsome character

0:56:540:56:58

they're human beings. He takes them warts and all.

0:56:580:57:00

It's like that moment in a song when you go "Oh, yeah."

0:57:000:57:03

You hear a song and go, "Oh, that's how I feel."

0:57:030:57:05

I said at the start of this programme

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that I thought each Dickens novel

0:57:150:57:18

feels like a continuation of the rest.

0:57:180:57:21

Each novel gives you a unique vision of the world

0:57:210:57:24

that's curiously like your own,

0:57:240:57:26

and yet strangely magnified and distorted, and as a result,

0:57:260:57:31

Dickens makes you read the characters around you completely afresh.

0:57:310:57:34

He forces you to gaze much more intently

0:57:340:57:38

at your physical surroundings and inside,

0:57:380:57:41

looking at the state of your own mental and emotional condition.

0:57:410:57:48

That's why Dickens's work is, for me,

0:57:480:57:51

still the greatest example in the English language

0:57:510:57:55

of a mind trying to engage comically and yet honestly

0:57:550:57:59

with what it means to be human.

0:57:590:58:03

And that's why, also,

0:58:030:58:04

I think the best reaction to reading a Dickens for the very first time

0:58:040:58:09

is to do what quite a lot of people do

0:58:090:58:11

when they read a Dickens for the very first time,

0:58:110:58:14

which is to pick up a new one and start reading that straight away.

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