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This is Hillsborough, the home of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club.

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On 15th April 1989, it was the scene of the worst disaster in

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British football history. Though 23 the Hillsborough disaster,

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particularly on Merseyside, has never gone away. That's despite the

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fact that a judicial inquiry made it crystal clear that the 96 deaths

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were the direct result of terrible mistakes made by the senior police

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officers who were in charge that day. For the past two years, a

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panel of independent experts has been examining every official

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document from around the time of the Hillsborough disaster. On

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Wednesday, the panel releases its report. Only then will we discover

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if they've found any new and significant information. Tonight,

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we hear the stories of some of those most intimately involved, as

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we try to find out if we can ever really know the truth about

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The clock was locked on 3.06. As sun shone down upon the pitch.

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Lighting up faces etched in pain. As death descended on Leppings Lane.

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Between the bars an arm is raised. Amidst a human tidal wave.

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What I regret is not being with my son when he most needed me. I

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resent everyone who done wrong to James. It's took me a long, long

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time to understand the anger, cos I was angry. They were angry with me,

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I was angry with them. They are accusing me of basically killing

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people. When I saw the headline "The Truth",

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I was aghast because that wasn't what I'd written.

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So is the lingering anger over Hillsborough a case of grieving

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families who can't get over the deaths of their loved ones? Or are

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families of the dead, in fact, fully justified to still be furious

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about the lies told in the On 15th April 1989, Hillsborough

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was the chosen neutral venue for the FA Cup semi-final between

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Liverpool and Nottingham Forest. Thousands of Liverpool fans made

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their way across the Pennines. Many journeys were delayed by huge

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traffic problems on the M62. One of the 96 Hillsborough victims who

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made the journey that day was James Aspinall. Only 18, James had just

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started his first job after after leaving school in Knowsley. He

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travelled to Sheffield with his friend, Graham Wright. Both died.

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The thing I do regret is not saying to James, "Be safe". The last thing

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I done for James was put his cross and chain on. I'd bought him a few

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weeks earlier, a chain for his 18th birthday, and he couldn't always

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put the clasp on himself. And that morning going out to the game he

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just said to me, "Mum, will you put me chain on for me please." And the

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last words I remember saying to James were, "You'll have to learn

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how to do this yourself, James, Dave Kirby is a writer and a

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fanatical Liverpool fan. In the '80s, he followed his team across

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the country. On the day of the disaster, he made the 80-mile trip

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from Liverpool to Sheffield. It was the second year in a row that

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Liverpool had played in an FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough. It was

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a lovely day like today. Sun shining. 12 months previously, we'd

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been there before. Very similar circumstances. We'd played

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Nottingham Forest in the semi-final of the FA Cup. You see this tunnel.

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And you can see a bit of the pitch through this tunnel and you just

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automatically think you go down that tunnel and disperse inside.

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But little did you realise that when you got in there, it was a pen.

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A complete and closed pen. John Wilson was a young South

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Yorkshire police officer in 1989. While events were escalating at

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Hillsborough, John was elsewhere in the stadium doing the paperwork for

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an arrest he'd made earlier that afternoon. With all officers being

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scrambled to the Leppings Lane end, John found himself without a police

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radio, having to react instinctively to the horror that

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was unfolding. We got to know that something was going wrong and I

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think the intimation was that it was some trouble, as in fighting,

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or whatever it was. The official inquiry by Lord Justice Peter

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Taylor confirmed that the Police Commander, David Duckenfield, had

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ordered that Gate C be opened to reduce a potentially life-

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threatening crush that had developed by the turnstiles outside

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the ground. But Lord Taylor found that rather than helping the

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situation, Duckenfield's fateful decision actually led to the

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disaster. The rush of fans who went through the gate made for the most

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obvious entrance to the Leppings Lane terrace. Thousands of fans now

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tried to enter through a narrow tunnel at the rear of the terrace

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into two already overcrowded central pens. Within minutes, fans

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were dead or dying. We got to the tunnel entrance and it was fairly

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full, but you could see people starting to come away and you could,

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as you walked down the tunnel, we struggled to get through, you could

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see bodies on the floor of people. Now obviously they appeared dead at

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that stage, so we walked down the tunnel. As we're walking down the

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tunnel, people saying, you know, words to the effect, "It's your

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fault," effing and blinding and I didn't really understand why at

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that point. People were screaming. The unmerciful screaming. That's

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what lives with you years later. The screams that you're hearing and

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things that you see. But you started realising that something

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terrible was going on. But the police still didn't react. It was

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so bizarre. Because the fans that day, they reacted quicker than the

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authorites. These days, Mark Edwardson is a reporter on BBC

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North West Tonight. But on the day of the match, he was a young

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Liverpool fan with a prized semi- final ticket for the Leppings Lane

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End. He found himself in midst of the deadly crush. I was stood face

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to face with this bloke who I didn't know, I hadn't gone to the

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match with. I just ended up being face to face with him in this crush.

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We were chest to chest. We were nose to nose. And I was getting to

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a point where I didn't want to breath out because I was worried if

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I breathed out, I wouldn't be able to breathe in again. I realised

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that down by our legs, there was more space. So I started to sort of

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wriggle down. And I'd only gone down a couple of inches, and this

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man, and I know it sounds trite, but I kind of owe my life to, just

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screamed at me straight away. He knew exactly what I was going to do.

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He could see I was going down. And he just screamed. "Don't effing do

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it. Don't effing do it. You'll never effing come back. Stop.

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Stop!" And he was wasting his breath, he might have thought it

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was his last breath as well, to stop me from doing what I was. And

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that was it. That's when I realised if I'm going to do something about

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this, I've got to at least stay up. Because that's actually the only

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way I'm going to stay alive because if I go down, the gate will close

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over the top of me and that would have been the end. That would have

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been absolutely the end of me. He realised that, and I thank him to

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this day because without him it could have been a different story.

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The police were like rabbits in the headlamps. There were about six or

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seven officers by the fence. And you had reporters taking pictures

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of the carnage and stuff, but there was no-one reacting. It was

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horrendous. And there were people in the stands behind pulling them

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up. Everyone knew there was something catastrophic going on,

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And the next thing, we're going down this tunnel which seems like a

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cave, it seems really dark and all these people are coming out, and

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there are bodies on the floor and it doesn't really register at first,

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and it didn't register for some time after the incident. So then we

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got through the people in the tunnel and started to go down the

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terrace, which was still pretty full. As we went down the terrace,

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obviously there were bodies on the terraced area and we made our way

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towards one individual who was on the floor, one youngish lad, who I

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can't really remember a lot about, apart from some of his clothing. I

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remember him, and a colleague of mine was already there, trying to

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revive him, giving him mouth to mouth and all that, so I got down

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to do the same, so we were both chest compressions, mouth to mouth

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and while we were there I know people were throwing coins down and

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we could hear people effing and blinding, swearing, shouting. There

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were people up there who were obviously really upset and really

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angry. In retrospect, that's understandable. We were then

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assigned to move bodies from the terrace terrier and through the

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perimeter gate around the pitch. We moved about 15 people. There was

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another man that I remember quite distinctly from that day, although

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I've no idea who he was or what he looked like. And that was because

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in the crush, I'd got turned round so I'd got my head to the back of

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the pitch and he was behind me. He was up against one of the crush

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bars in the pen. To describe his words as harrowing is really

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understating how horrific it must have been for him. He was pleading

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to me to give him some space. I was back to back with him. He was

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pleading with me to give him some space and saying, "I'm having a

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heart attack, I'm having a heart attack. You've got to give me some

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space. I'm dying." Of course by this stage I couldn't move. Nobody

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else could move. This is a football match, where things like that don't

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happen, I'd never seen anything like that. I was almost 29, I'd

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never seen anything like that, you know. I'd seen dead people before

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I'd joined the job, but never in circumstances like that. Can you

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remember anything about the people you were having to move? Not a

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thing, can't, just predominantly they were male, and from what I can

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remember they were male, obviously looking back now they were male,

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but other than that, can't remember a thing. I don't see faces, don't

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see features when I look back, it's just a...blank face. You don't see

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a nose, a mouth, eyes, you just see a blank face. I can't put any

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features on people's faces, I can't distinctly remember the kid I tried

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to revive, you know. I've looked on my statement and that refers to

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clothing and I think he'd got light coloured hair. Would you like to be

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I'd like to know the... I'd like to For Margaret Aspinall, there was

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still the gruesome duty of visiting her son at the makeshift morgue

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that had been set up at Sheffield Wednesday. And you were waiting,

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and someone offered me a cup of tea. And I said, I just want to see my

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son. Please take me to my son. He's my son. I want him to know that his

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mum's here. OK, OK, calm down. I eventually get called through to

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this room. And I remember there was this blue curtain. A glass

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partition. And they just said to me, are you ready? And I said, ready

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for what? I just want me son. And they pulled the curtain back, and

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my son was there. I said I need to cuddle him and they said they can't

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let me go in to give him a kiss, to cuddle him. And I said I need to go

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in and cuddle him. I need to go in to see my son. I need to take him

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home. I've got his coat. I'll take him home. And someone, I don't know

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who, said, "Mrs Aspinall he does not belong to you no more. He

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But even as the disaster was unfolding, an alternative version

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of the truth was being spun by senior South Yorkshire police

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officers. The police match commander, David Duckenfield, lied

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to a senior official from the Football Association, saying it was

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the Liverpool fans who'd forced the The BBC weren't alone in reporting

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this erroneous version of events. 74 football supporters are reported

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to have been crushed to death at the FA Cup semi-final at

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Hillsborough this afternoon. Hundreds more were injured. Fans

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rushed through a broken turnstile, crushing Liverpool supporters at

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It happened on the day that a false story was being manufactured by the

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police. David Duckenfield was telling the FA executive in the

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control room that the fans had pushed their way in and forced

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their way in. Of course it was bowled on. They were drunk, they

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did not have tickets, it was not their fault. That was the seed. He

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knew. It was called by the judge an outrageous lie. It was an

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outrageous lie but the lie has stuck. Can you understand the

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bitterness of the Liverpool fans, especially when it emerged that

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senior officers like David Duckenfield had effectively covered

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up parts of their actions? He did not help, did it? No. I think it

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was found that David Duckenfield lied. He tried to blame it

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immediately on the Liverpool fans. That was a massive error. There was

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going to be a backlash. There is no doubt that the vast majority of

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people that turned up came to a game of football. Just as the

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police turned up simply to police a football match, not to hurt anybody.

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On Merseyside, it is the accusation that somehow the disaster was the

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fault of the fans themselves that has always cut particularly deep.

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The most notorious article to appear in the week after the

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disaster featured on the front page of The Sun, headlined 'The Truth'.

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Such was the anger that 23 years on following its publication there are

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still many on Merseyside who refuse to buy The Sun as a result. Harry

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Arnold is the journalist who wrote the article. Now semi-retired, he

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has never previously spoken on camera about what happened.

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involvement began. I think it was four days later when the

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allegations began to emerge. In newspapers, as in television, if an

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allegation is made, it is your duty to report the allegation. But at

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the same time to give the other side the opportunity to respond.

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The allegations included suggestions that France had

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urinated on victims on a level below them. -- fans. That a young

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woman who was dead had been abused. And fans were generally accused of

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behaving in a drunken, disorderly fashion. It will always be very,

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very difficult to know whether any of the allegations were true or

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partly true or totally untrue. But they were allegations and that was

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how I wrote them, as allegations. There was no drunkenness. It was

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all a myth. It laid the blame. The drunkenness was exposed as a myth.

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The majority of fans were not drunk or not even worse for drink.

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think the worst allegations, the strongest allegations, came from a

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news agency. What makes me believe strongly that it came from a news

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agency is that it appeared in other newspapers. The famous St Mark

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Twain and Winston Churchill, that Allied get round the world before

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the truth has put its trousers on. -- lies get round the world. If you

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want to make sure a version is remembered, you get in first.

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not see Liverpool fans urinating on any police officers and I did not

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see any Liverpool fans stealing money or picking money up, stealing

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money from dead people or picking many of that had fallen out of

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people's pockets. I did not see that. As far as I'm concerned, I

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did not see it, so it probably did not happen. But on The Sun, Kelvin

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MacKenzie the rather controversial editor at the time, like to write

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his own headlines. He wrote the headline 'The Truth'. The reason I

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know that, I was about to leave the newsroom when I saw him drawing up

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the front page. I saw the headline, 'The Truth'. I was aghast. That was

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not what I had written. I had never used the words this is the truth

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about the Hillsborough disaster. I had merely written it, I hope and I

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still believe, in a balanced and fair way. I said to Kelvin

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MacKenzie that you cannot say that and he said why not? I said we did

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not know what was the truth and this was a version of the truth. He

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brushed it aside and said don't worry. He was going to make it

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clear that this is what some people are saying. I walked away thinking,

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well, I am not happy about the situation. But the fact is that

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reporters do not argue with an editor. And in particular, you do

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not argue with an editor like Kelvin MacKenzie. Talk about

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kicking us when we are down. That was our hour of need. We were

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looking for compassion and understanding. And then they came

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out with that despicable, obscene, rancid for third. Some broadsheets

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went with it, but it was The Sun. Picking pockets of dead people,

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urinating on them, it was so bizarre and far-fetched. It was

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designed to cast a smear and that is what it did. Its long mad and

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mud sticks. That story with my name on it headlined 'The Truth' was the

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unhappiest episode of my career. I had to use the material in front of

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me, and I stress that they were allegations. But what made it all

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go terribly wrong was when the editor put those two words on the

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front page in huge letters, 'The Truth'. He has never been able to

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live that down, but as I did not write the headline, I have been

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able to live with it, albeit unhappily. We approached Kelvin

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MacKenzie to get his response, but he declined to comment. Lord

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Justice Taylor's report into the tragedy was unequivocal. It was

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mismanagement by senior officers of the South Yorkshire police that was

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the prime cause of the disaster. But no police officer has ever been

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convicted of any crime as a result of what happened. For some of the

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relatives of the dead, that is very hard to take. How do you describe

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justice? What do you mean by justice? What I mean by Justice is

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accountability. Somebody being responsible and being held to be

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responsible for the death of 96 people. It is not about vengeance.

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It is not an eye for an eye. It is the truth of Hillsborough. Instead

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of blaming the fans and the people that died, put the responsibility

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where it rightfully belongs, and that is accountability to me.

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Accountability is absolutely vital and it applies, as I say, to every

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single occupation. Whatever decisions to take, the BBC takes, I

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take, I have to be accountable. I can't say, I am sorry, I cannot do

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my job if I have to explain what I have done. They absolutely do.

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Taylor Report was fairly clear in that it said the bulk of the

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responsibility lay at the hands of senior officers at the time. They

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had made mistakes in opening the gates. When that Taylor Report came

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up, what was your reaction to that? Anger. I thought it was not our

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fault. It was not what we had done. I had got into the defensive sort

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of mine said. They hated me, I hated them. But over the years I

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have been able to think, hang on, looking at this logically, I can

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understand their anger. You can understand why the finger was

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pointed at us, but it became personal. When they said the police,

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they said me. That is how you felt? Yes. So in turn I was against them.

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I had got my back against the wall, this is not my fault, I did not do

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anything wrong. I did not kill 96 people. But it is only over the

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years, very, very recently, that I have come to accept, like I said,

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that things did go wrong. What is the point of us blaming each other?

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What is the point of us hating each other? It did not change a thing.

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It does not bring people back. I think now is the time, and maybe I

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am being a bit optimistic, really for reconciliation. Not for us to

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hate each other and fight against each other, but just to sit down

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and say, well, this happened. Mistakes were made. Events came

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together to create a cataclysmic event. Which we will hopefully

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never see again and what we have never seen before. South Yorkshire

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police in 2012 is barely recognisable from the police force

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of the 80s under the command of the then Chief Constable Peter Wright.

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Reforms began and his successor, Richard Wells, and from 2004 the

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man in the hot seat in South Yorkshire was Meredydd Hughes.

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Three years ago it was Meredydd Hughes who initiated the plan to

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have an independent panel of experts review every official

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document from the time of the tragedy. The panel reveals its

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findings on Wednesday. But many remain suspicious that some

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documents may have gone missing. Do you think this set of documents is

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complete? Do you think everything is in there? It is a hard thing.

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That is a question that is hard to answer. People have asked if we

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have trust in the independent panel. Yes. But that is a different thing.

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Why have trust in other people to hand over everything? Has anything

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been shredded? I do not have that trust. I do have the trust in the

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panel that what they have got they will scrutinise and looked at

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properly. But it is the difference -- a different scenario that

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everything has been handed over. I don't have that trust and that is

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because of what we have gone through 423 years. As far as I know,

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every document is there. It is the role of the Bishop of Liverpool to

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satisfy himself that the documents are used correctly. It is one of

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the reasons why I stepped forward to do it voluntarily. I have no axe

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to grind and I have no interest in hiding anything. I am wondering in

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400,000 documents the extent to which the panel have been able to

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identify whether they have been given everything. What assurances

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have this sort? -- have they sought? Secondly, are they dogmas

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that they have not got? And thirdly, or are they going to allow the

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public and the families to see everything or will it be edited?

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People are still talking about Hillsborough 23 years later. It is

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not going away. It has been a bit of a blight. It is an event of

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history. The force get on with its day-to-day work. Apart from a

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handful of officers who were here at the time, there is not a sense

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of collective guilt around the events of the past. I don't think

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any of us could function of that was the case. I come from South

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Wales where the police force managed and delivered the Aberfan

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disaster response. I am sure that mistakes were made that day in the

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60s and the response was not as effective as it could have been,

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but by the time I joined that force in 1979, it does not live in a

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memory in quite that way. Meredydd Hughes is right, at

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Hillsborough is simply an event of history. But Hillsborough and its

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pain and its memories remains very much, not just in Merseyside but

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deep within his own force. Perhaps the best he can say is that the

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release of these documents might just be the start of a new chapter.

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Have you spoken about this before? To anybody? Over the past few years,

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yes. I have been to councillors. I am not ashamed to say it. I have

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been to councillors and I have discussed the situation with them.

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I have discussed what happened and why. And how I personally get

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through it. To an extent, that has helped. I don't think it will ever

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be forgotten. It is just how I deal with it personally now. What I

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regret is not being with my son when he most needed me. I resent

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everybody who did wrong to James. I was there when he took his first

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breath. I regret that when he most needed me, I was not with him, on

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his last breath. But that is the memory I have got of My beautiful

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son, going off that morning. I am sorry, I apologise to all the

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families for this, because when I talk about James I feel as though

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I'm forgetting the other 95. None of them deserved to die, but you

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have asked me about James and I have got to answer truthfully. I

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just wish I had been there for him. Was he asking for me in his mind? I

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