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BIG BEN CHIMES | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Whenever I begin any painting I've ever done, you start with | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
a mind's eye image of what is the ultimate goal of this painting. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:45 | |
And I have to say that I've never had an occasion | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
where my mind's eye image of the painting | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
was matched by the reality of the finished painting. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
You never quite reach. You can get close to it - | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
but I've never gotten to the point | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
where I've achieved it or gone beyond the imagined. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
It's the pinnacle as far as commissions go, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
especially for a portrait painter. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
The first contact was a letter from the Queen's representative. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
And when I opened it I thought, "Aah... This is my chance!" | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
I probably did my first commissioned portrait about 40 years ago. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
And even then when I was starting to get into portraiture, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
I always dreamed of being able to paint the Queen one day. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
-ARCHIVE: -'..by placing on her head | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
'the six-pound King Edward's crown...' | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
I want the end result to have the feeling that the viewer | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
can connect with the Queen | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
not just on a ceremonial level | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
as the monarch of our country... | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
..but on a personal level as well. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
I declare before you all | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
that my whole life, whether it be long or short, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
shall be devoted to your service | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and the service of our great imperial family | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
to which we all belong. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
She's such an iconic figure too, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and she's a symbol for so many people. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
She still, after all these years, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
remains an enigmatic, personal character. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
I want to get a feel for what kind of person inhabits this role | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
so that when I paint her portrait, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
I can inject a little bit of that into the finished painting. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
When I think back to the...you know, the attitude, like, 40 years ago | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
about what an artist could and could not be - | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
how it was such a difficult battle, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
like to be fighting this constantly... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
I never believed in the mid-20th century | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
that figurative painting was dead. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
It didn't make any sense to me. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I thought it was terribly arrogant for critics and writers | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
and other artists to even um... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
espouse that, because, you know, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
people have been painting - drawing and painting images - | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
for about, you know, at least 35,000 years. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
And most of that time has been spent on depicting things that they see. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
It's a way of understanding your world, and the things that are most | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
important usually in one's world are the people that are around them. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Most early drawings that little wee kids do are faces. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
You know, it starts with just like a round thing, then the eyes come in | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
and then there's a mouth and then there's a nose and ears and hair. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I think it's natural to want to paint people | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
and paint their faces. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
As you start doing more of it, I started to realise | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
that this is probably the hardest thing | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
there is in the world of art to do. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
In the visual world, I think that the one thing that human beings | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
know better than any other thing is the human face. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
One thing I've discovered is that being a portrait painter, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
once you've finished the painting, you literally in some cases | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
know the face better than the owner of the face. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Usually when I'm painting a picture of almost anyone, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
I'll establish a personal relationship with them | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
right off the bat. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
You know, I can't just sit down and ask the Queen the kind of questions | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
I would ask any other sitter, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
because there's all kinds of protocol that has to be adhered to. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
Ma'am, if you could just drop your wrist a little bit... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-This one? -That's it. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Yes, this is... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS RAPIDLY | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Thank you, ma'am. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-That was interesting, wasn't it? -Indeed. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Very quick! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:23 | |
-Thank you, ma'am. -Right. Bye. -Goodbye, ma'am. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Oh, there it is. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
Yeah... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
I was in high school at the time, and I think it was | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
probably in the fall of 1968 and this new book came into the library. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
And I was, you know, painting already in those days. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
And I was really amazed at the stuff I saw, and it's this picture here. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
What he's done, he's created space with the overlapping of one figure | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
to another, to another, to the trees, the landscape, the sky... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
So there's actually deep space that the eye can follow through | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
from one side to the other. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
In one way it looks very flat, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
but then when you keep looking at it it looks very spatial as well. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
And that was my epiphany. I thought, "That's the way I want to paint." | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
The young man is still only in his 20s. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
I think he's one of the most brilliant young Canadian artists - | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
and he's working with realism. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
But let's see what kind... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
To know a little bit of our history is a good idea. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
It's called The Grand Theft. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Now, the two little lead reliefs | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
on the couch behind the boys... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Jasper Johns, the very famous American pop artist, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
did lead reliefs of light bulbs and of knees. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Those - those two... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
are the reliefs of his own son. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Those two kids' knees... which he's juxtapositioned | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
and made to appear like Jasper Johns' lead reliefs. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
It's totally unreal, that painting, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
and yet it's realistic. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
That's the enigmatic. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
That's a game he's playing. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I paint the things that I'm most involved with - | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
the people around me, and the things that comprise my everyday life. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:29 | |
Pictures and books | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and the history of art. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
I think if you take direct aim at being innovative, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
you'll probably miss. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
I think if you compare yourself to the standards that have been set... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
..throughout history, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
then I think | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
you will come up with something original. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
-Do you think this is... -I like it. I like it very much. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
I've got three heroes, in three different realms. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
One is in painting - Piero della Francesca. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
You know, Quattrocento Italian painter. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
The other is the architect, Frank Lloyd Wright, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
19th-20th century American architect. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
And the other is the composer George Frideric Handel, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
the German-English Baroque composer. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
What ties them all together for me | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
is an emphasis on structure within their form, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
and that's the kind of person I am. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I like any emotional content that my work has | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
to come out of the way the artwork is built. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
For anyone in the arts, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
if you don't have self-discipline, you're just not going to do it. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
And part of that self-discipline is to have regimented routines. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
And I don't know if that grows out of the way I make art | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
or the way I make art has grown out of my personality. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Structured thinking, in my case, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
ends up having a kind of structured life. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
My wife calls me the most boring man in the world. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
That's because my life is so structured. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Like, I go to bed at the same time every night. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
I get up at the same time. I have breakfast at the same time. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
I have the same lunch every day. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Another one of my heroes is Alfred Hitchcock | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
and he used to wear this dark blue suit to the set every day. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
And people would ask him, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
"Why do you wear the same clothing every day when you go to work?" | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
He said, "The suit is the same, but the movies are all different." | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
And I feel the same way. The paintings are all different. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
The predictability of my life | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
is like a foundation for everything else, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
if you want to call it creativity, that springs from that. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
When Jenny and I first started dating, she was my main model. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
So I painted and drew her. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
And then we had kids. I added the kids. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I used to joke in the early days that | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
one of the reasons I started painting the family, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
because it was a way of using cheap models. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
You know, these little kids, all you had to do was feed them. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
They didn't demand any fees. So that's the way it started out. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
But I like the idea of bringing these different worlds together, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
you know, like family and artistic impulses, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
-to make them part of the same thing. -I don't like them. Daddy! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
Jenny and I decided early on that she would stay home | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and look after the kids. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
So, you know, with a single income to bring up | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
a family of three kids, five people, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
depending on one, especially an artist's, income - | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
I look back on it, it sounds insane. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Like, I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Jenny never questioned my commitment to art | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
or the idea of creating art for the future. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
I really appreciated that | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
because anyone else would have given up at some point. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
We grew and developed together as a team. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
I started doing little pencil sketches of... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
This was actually done before the photo shoot, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
just to try and set up that initial shoot. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
So one of the reasons for starting with the small scale | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
is that you're seeing the total composition | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
and then gradually you're working your way up in scale. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
So right now, these are nine inches by six inches. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
The final painting is going to be nine feet by six feet. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
What's happening inside my head is that I'm becoming more familiar | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
with the elements and the possibilities. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
So that each time I do another version, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
even if there are big changes made, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
I kind of carry what I've learned. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I've built a lot of models over the years. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
What I've done is I've gone to Rideau Hall and taken measurements | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
of certain rooms and brought them back here and created this room | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
that is part of a real room but I've turned it into an imaginary space. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
I'm trying to teach not only myself | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
but the ultimate audience of the picture | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
that it really looks and feels like a real space. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
I call this grid a geometric map of the rectangle. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
Into this two-dimensional geometric grid, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
I use what's often termed as projective geometry. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
In other words, lines converging to a point. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
You've got these two systems of geometry, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
one that is depicting the surface | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and the other is trying to depict space. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
And I find the kind of interplay | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
between these two systems of geometry really, really fascinating. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:10 | |
One of the reasons for making a sculpture in this particular project | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
is the difficulty of access for the model. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Usually I'm able to see and be with the person I'm painting, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
you know, reasonably easy access. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
But with the Queen, it's been a little more difficult. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
And so what I decided to do with her | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
was to do a carved bust of the Queen. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
The basic forms of her face are there. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
So it means that I can light this now. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
So you can see that depending on where she is | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
in relation to the light, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
the image changes quite dramatically... | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
..you know, and the expression changes too. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
So this gives me... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
So I can work with this lit the way I want to | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
and then work on her portrait. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
I was the superintendent, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
which is just a fancy name for a janitor, of Cliffside Plaza. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
After I finished art college in 1973, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
I approached the owners of the plaza | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
and I made them a proposal that if they gave me this space for free, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
I would look after the building for them. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
So I offered this to them and they went for it. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
So I knew that if I came here | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
and did janitorial work there was no future in that. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
There's no way you're going to become any more comfortable. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
You're always going to be paid almost minimum wage and that was it. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
So any future I had would be focused on the art career. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
So my plan was to be here for five years. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
So after five years I'd be successful and wealthy enough | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
I could build my own studio | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
and my career would just be up and running from there. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
So after 15 years, I finally left. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
The Globe and Mail used to be delivered here, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
I think it was about 2:30 in the morning. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
And the Saturday Globe and Mail was the issue | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
in which the art reviews would come out. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
So more than once I'd be sweeping up early in the morning | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
and put my bag and broom down beside the Globe and Mail box, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
put in my dime, go to the Entertainment section | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
and sure enough, there's a review of one of my shows in the paper, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
talking about how successful I've been | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
and what a wonderful show it is and all. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
When the reality is that I was sweeping out garbage here to get by. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
One of my kind of personal rules about art making | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
is that it really doesn't matter what you do | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
but it really matters how you do it. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
That's what's most important. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
I think art is fundamentally | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
about the joy of making things | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
and communication. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Artists in general, and visual artists in particular, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
are always spectators. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
You draw your raw material from the world around you. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
But because you do that, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
it makes it very difficult to feel like you're part of that world, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
because you have to recreate | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
the sense of the world through your artwork. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
It makes you always feel like an outsider. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
It's a very lonely kind of occupation too, because, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
like, I've spent the better part of my life standing in one spot. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
The real inspiring achievement that keeps you going day to day | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
are these little successes that you try to achieve on a daily basis. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:58 | |
They're literally the greatest moments of your life, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
even though you're experiencing them by yourself, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
standing there, staring at this flat surface. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
That's where the real art exists, in those tiny little moments. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
All of this process that I go through, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
you know, the ultimate aim is to make this work of art | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
that will outlive me, will outlive the Queen, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
will outlive all of us that are here. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
And in future generations, people will say, "That's a nice painting." | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
And people will value it, not because I did it, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
or because of who's depicted, but because of the way it's done. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
There's a whole world between me and the Queen. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
The difference in this process and my normal process | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
is the lack of the personal connection. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
Because for a painter, especially a portrait painter... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
..what you're trying to do is paint an image | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
that is revealing, not just of the person and the position they occupy, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
but something about them as a human being as well. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I have to present it to the commissioners first. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
And then after that, it has to be presented to the Queen. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
She would sign off on the image at this stage. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
All these people that I study and have admired forever, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
they're all dead. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Like, you know, Piero della Francesca, he died in 1492. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
But I still refer back to what he did. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Not only his work, but his thinking | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
and his sensibility and personality live on through that work. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
This is home. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
That's what it is. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I haven't been here in 30 years, but this feels like home. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
There's a subtlety to his colours and his tonalities | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
and the kind of spatial construction that I just don't see anywhere else. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
He's a really unique personality in the history of art. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Through the work, I sense that he thought | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
and felt about the universe the same way that I do. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
The hope is to interest her in the process | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
that I go through and why I go through that process. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
So what I'm going to try and do is... | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
show Her Majesty | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
the last of what I'd call the kind of pre-preliminary maquettes. | 0:23:54 | 0:24:02 | |
And this is... So far, this is like the... | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
the kind of end of the journey to this stage, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
just so she gets an idea of the point at which I've arrived. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
And I'll work my way back to... | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
..those. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
I think the earliest one is like that, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
which is again sketchier looking, still. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
And I'll also put out these details of her face. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:41 | |
And I'll try to explain to her | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
that it's not just because I like playing with dolls, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
but, you know, there's real purpose | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
into all the work of going into building this model. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
Her response to this | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
is probably going to tell me a lot about who she is | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
and the kind of person she is. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
If she finds it interesting, that says one thing about her. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
If she doesn't find it at all interesting, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
that says something else. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
But I'm sure, um, you know, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
she'll be able to interject whenever she wants. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
And if she's seen enough, that's enough, and that's... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
that will be that. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
But we'll see. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
I bet within the first minute, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
I'm going to have a feeling from her, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
what direction it's going to go in. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
It was nice to be able to talk her through the whole process. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
And all the while too, it was nice to be able to, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
being one on one, I could really get to see her up close | 0:26:19 | 0:26:25 | |
and we did go over, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
It was slotted as a 20 minute audience, it went 45 minutes. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
I've been doing so much talking the last few days | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
that I started to lose my voice in the middle of it | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
I thought, oh, gees... so, I was coughing a bit. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
So she said, "Would you like some water?'" I said, "OK." | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
So she presses a button and somebody comes in and asks, you know, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
"Can we have a glass of water?" "One or two, ma'am?" "Just one." | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
So he brings in the water, she hands me the glass of water. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
So that's... So I got a glass of water from the Queen. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
I felt that by the end of it | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
she was quite engaged with the process and excited by the process. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:06 | |
You start to get a feel for personality, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
which is what I was hoping for in the end. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
You know, just an inkling of the humanity behind the symbol. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
I think what she appreciated was the commitment to the... | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
not just this work, but to art itself and my vocation. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:27 | |
She's taken her role so seriously. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
I think that is her life. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
And I kind of feel the same way about art. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
I've devoted my whole life to it and committed myself to it. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
And it gets to the point where you become that. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
It's not that you have a profession. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
I think we both have this vocation, we're both committed to it. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:54 | |
You know, we'll probably both die doing the thing that we love to do. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
I felt that she sensed a similar commitment | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
and sensibility in this project that I was doing for her. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
I think the whole project, I'm sure, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
is a once-in-a-lifetime experience too. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Before you get approval, you're always apprehensive | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
and you feel very alone in what you've done | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and the point you've gotten to. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
But now it feels like clear sailing, the only obstacles being, you know, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
my ability to make a really good piece of art. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
BANGING | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
How to stretch a canvas... a valuable thing. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
I think painting pictures is a lot more physically taxing | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
than people would imagine. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I think they have this vision of artists just, you know, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
sitting at a stool in front of a canvas | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
daubing little blobs of paint on to a canvas all day. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
But there's really a lot more to it than that. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
I do this part myself | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
just because I'm pretty fussy about the kind of surface I work on | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
and the nature of the stretcher. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
I could've gotten other people to do it, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
but I enjoy this part of the process | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
and I like to have control of it as well. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
Ah, it's smooth. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
It looks good. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
She's my guardian angel, I guess. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
It's just a reminder that I've got to, you know, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
watch myself and do as good a job as I possibly can. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
I always believed, right from the very beginning, what would | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
win out in the end is diligence and persistence and consistency. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
I think a career is a kind of work of art in itself. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
Using real life as not only a catalyst, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
but the raw material of your art form | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
still makes perfect sense to me, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
regardless of the ideologies that come and go. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
I'm sure that I could have had a much better rapport with | 0:30:33 | 0:30:39 | |
the critical world if I'd put in the time | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
and effort to explain myself and all the rest of that. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
But I was too busy just making the art. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
The big painting has actually moved along very quickly. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
It's because of all of that kind of practice for the past year | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
with this image. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
In one way it's the scariest stage because you're getting to the point | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
where you're saying to yourself, "OK, this is the best I could do." | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
You're almost finished. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
On the other hand, it's the most exciting | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
because you feel like you're close to achieving something | 0:31:31 | 0:31:37 | |
that's close to your mind's eye vision you started with. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
You generally don't ever reach that point, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
but if you can get close to it that's really satisfying. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
I can wander around the painting quite nicely and enjoy it | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
and kind of weave in and out of the space and not stop anywhere. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
Whenever you stop, when your eye stops moving somewhere, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
you've got a problem. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Because I think it expresses what I'm about | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
in terms of my own painterly ideology. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
And if people don't like it, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
it will be for reasons that are probably out of my control. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
It will be interesting to see how long | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
she actually looks at the painting. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Maybe she'll just glance like this and then that's it, it's over. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
The thing I'm really thinking about more than anything... It's not... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
It's not so much, you know, meeting the Queen | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
or the Prime Minister or all the other guests that are there. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
It's, one, seeing the painting in a different setting, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
because I haven't seen it now finished | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
since it left the studio almost half a year ago, I guess. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
And then, seeing the reaction to the painting. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
An unveiling, in a way, it's the end of the painting for me. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
You know, the end of the project | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
and I've moved on to other things at least in my imagination. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
But for everyone else it's the birth of the painting. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
This is the beginning of the life, the public life, of the work of art. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:55 | |
Some of them have seen the process, the sketches and whatnot. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
But some of them will have no idea of what it looks like. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Actually I'd love to be one of them. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I'd love to be able to see it just as if it was, you know, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
dropped out of the sky. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
But sometimes the unveiling gives you a hint of that feeling, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
because it's in a foreign place. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
You know, it's framed, it's lit differently. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
I haven't seen it for a while and I've forgotten some of the trials | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
and tribulations of getting there. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
I'm really looking forward to seeing it in the palace and to see | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
if it holds up against the architecture, the decoration, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
the other paintings that are in there. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
I'm hoping it does. But we'll see. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
This portrait represents the appreciation of all Canadians | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
for 60 years of outstanding service to our country and the Commonwealth | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
and we'd be honoured if you would do us the pleasure | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
of unveiling the portrait. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
It's changed quite a bit since I last saw it. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
Yes it's gone from, like, six inches... | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:53 | 0:35:54 | |
Yeah, the composition has... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
I like it. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
How on earth did you get it... | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
I like it. I think it's good. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Yeah, I think her first reaction was she was surprised at how big it was. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
I said, "You almost think it should stay here, because it | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
"looks so good in that room. Just hang it up the wall and leave it." | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
And she also said, "You've changed it," | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
almost like an accusation. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
And I thought, OK. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
Then I tried to explain why I've changed it. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
I said, "For one thing it went from six inches tall to nine feet tall." | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
But she said, "No you've changed other things," which is true. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
Like I manipulated some of the relationship | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
of her figure to the furniture. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
I was kind of amazed that she'd remember. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Maybe she'd done her homework and looked at the previous images. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
But she remembered, you know, how things were situated | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and noticed that it was changed. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
But you know, she was smiling and laughing about it. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
She did say, I think it was, "grand and marvellous." | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
I think she was pleased. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:22 | |
Today I feel like, with the unveiling, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
the process really has ended for me. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
I've kind of moved on to other things. But I'm concerned... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
It's like being a parent | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
and seeing your kids walk out into the big, bad world. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
Now I'm watching the painting and the response to it, you know, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
the good and the bad. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
And that where my mind was yesterday and it still is today. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
Striving to make a lasting work of art is a kind of goal. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
But you've got to enjoy getting there. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
The real joy and the reality is making the stuff. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
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