The Battle for Britain's Breakfast


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Over 30 years ago, a battle began for the final frontier of British television.

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Hello, good morning and welcome.

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It was a battle fought by titans of broadcasting...

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Breakfast Time. Britain's first ever regular early-morning television programme.

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..supported by a loyal band of foot soldiers.

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SHE LAUGHS Hello.

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This epic contest for the hearts and minds of the bleary-eyed

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British public was a war between two very different institutions.

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The BBC was fiercely competitive.

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It was a shambles. Absolute financial shambles.

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Between 1983 and 1991, our TV screens

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witnessed a war of the sofas that saw technological innovation...

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Here is our clock.

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That's the time and there it will stay.

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-..sexual chemistry...

-Can you hear me?

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Can't wait to see you in a survival suit.

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..woollen sweaters...

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I could have made a million selling jumpers.

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-..astrology...

-Hello and how are you?

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-..and a sarcastic rodent.

-Yeah!

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Weapons deployed in an uncompromising conflict.

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Auntie was behaving badly.

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People would come in my office and cry.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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This is the story of the battle for Britain's breakfast.

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# When two tribes go to war

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# A point is all you can score

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# When two tribes go to war

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# A point is all you can score

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# Working for the black gas... #

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Into today's world of rolling news, endless channel choice

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and 24-hour-a-day broadcasting,

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it's hard to imagine a time where before lunch

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the only visual offerings were the test card...

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-HIGH PITCHED BEEP

-..and physics.

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This is the only point for which we've shown both the routes.

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What about the other ones?

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Britain before breakfast television was a civilised place.

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People had breakfast at breakfast time and read a newspaper.

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There was a feeling if you wanted news in the morning

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you should turn on Radio 4 and listen to the Today programme.

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Television in the morning was outrageous.

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It was just decadence beyond belief.

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But breakfast in Britain was about to become

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a very different place when in 1980,

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the Independent Broadcasting Authority

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offered up the franchise of a new station

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that would broadcast on ITV -

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a tantalising challenge that attracted David Frost...

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Thank you very much indeed. Hello, good evening and welcome.

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..who immediately recruited an elite unit of broadcasting behemoths.

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King of the chat show Michael Parkinson...

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After 11 years I've decided to get a proper job.

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..ITN's Anna Ford...

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It's the highest security lab in this country

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working on genetic manipulation.

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..the BBC's first ever news anchorwoman Angela Rippon...

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Oil producing and exporting nations have begun a series of meetings

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to decide the price of oil in 1978.

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-..and grizzled news veteran Robert Kee.

-Good evening.

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Completing the line-up as chairman

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was former ambassador to Washington Peter Jay.

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Their brave new venture was to be known as TV-am.

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There's no doubt about who's walked off with the biggest prize.

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TV-am have got the breakfast television contract

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and they were all set to go on the air next January

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but a cautious IBA has told them to wait until sometime in 1983.

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It's, I think, the happiest day of my life

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I can recall professionally, you know,

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because this group came together,

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excited by the challenge

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of breakfast television

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and to have the opportunity of doing it as well,

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we hope we don't let the side down.

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But the celebrations of this glitzy new enterprise

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awoke a sleeping giant.

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The BBC was fiercely competitive.

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The BBC believed that it had the right to broadcast

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to the British people and these upstarts in commercial television.

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You know, if they got a toehold in the door well, fine,

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but this is our terrain.

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The BBC huffed and puffed until ITV said they were going to do it

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and announced a start date and then the BBC was very much in the market.

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There was no question that the BBC screens could be dark

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when the ITV screens were lit up in the morning.

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Of course, the moment when we announced we were going on air

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the BBC said, "We will do it two weeks earlier."

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I'd always known the BBC would do that

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and if I'd been the BBC that's what I would have done.

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The instruction was, get on the air first.

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They weren't supposed to start before TV-am.

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They snuck in.

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Auntie was behaving badly. That was a really big surprise.

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With the battle date set for early 1983,

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both sides established breakfast base camps.

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Egg Cup House was a fantastic statement

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of the fact that TV-am was going to do things differently.

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It was a beautiful space in which to work

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because it was on a canal, it had a tremendous amount of natural light.

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It was a big space, you know.

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Inside it felt like an aircraft hangar.

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So, that kind of open plan was very inspirational and very energising.

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Lime Grove was a pretty grim building.

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And we were in one of the grimmest rooms in that building.

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Our production office was a grotty, dark, windowless little room

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behind the Lime Grove canteen

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with the permanent smell of stale chips and Irish stew.

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But there was nothing stale

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about the brave and bright new world of TV-am.

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Central to the entire enterprise were the famous five

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who were not just the public face,

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they were also shareholders of the company.

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-Good morning.

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

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Good morning, Britain.

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We'll be live on the "ITV-1" button from February 1.

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With all these very famous personalities,

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there was a huge media appetite to come and interview them,

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come and talk to them about what breakfast television would be like.

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Frosty was being interviewed everywhere,

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talking about sexual chemistry. This lit a light under the tabloids.

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I think everybody thought, "How interesting.

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"TV-am has the serious newsy people. What will the BBC do?"

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Simple. The enlisted the safest hands in British broadcasting.

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I was approaching my 50th birthday.

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When I got wind of Ronald Neil starting this breakfast show,

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I must say I badgered him for a month or two saying,

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"Look, if you don't give me a job on this new programme I'll never speak to you again."

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About three or four months before we actually launched,

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I got a handwritten note from him which said,

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"My dear Frank. Last time we had dinner.

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"Can we now have lunch to talk about breakfast?"

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And I've kept that little bit of paper.

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I was delighted. Whoop-de-do! And I was on.

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He had a huge amount of experience in presenting long, live programmes.

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And I thought that experience was going to be crucial.

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Joining Brigadier Bough were ITN reporter Selina Scott...

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My name's Selina Scott and this, quite literally,

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is the most northern point of Britain.

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..and young newshound Nick Ross.

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This programme is about creating baby girls and baby boys to order.

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Winter 1983, and as a bleary-eyed British public

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went about their morning business, in the bunkers of Egg Cup Towers

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and Lime Grove, both production teams finalise their strategies

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for the impending visual onslaught.

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With the BBC going over the top first,

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their rehearsals seemed to be going smoothly.

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OK? Yeah.

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-NICK ROSS:

-Frank Bough was hugely reassuring.

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I'd never done anything like this before.

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Frank had done a lot of sports programming.

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And I remember about 30 seconds before we went on air

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on the first day, you could hear the chatter upstairs.

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There was nervousness. The crew were nervous.

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We were nervous on the sofa and Frank went...

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"Calm down, everyone.

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"It's going to be great."

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Well, I wasn't nervous.

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I had long since in my career stopped being nervous

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about being live on television.

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Run VT.

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-'This is BBC One. In a few moments, it'll be Breakfast Time.'

-Five, four, three, two, one, zero.

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We're on the air, everyone.

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We're on the air. Good luck.

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And so, on the morning of 17th January 1983, BBC Breakfast Time

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gently stormed the final frontier of British broadcasting.

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It's 6:30, Monday January 17th, 1983.

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You are watching the first edition of BBC Television's Breakfast Time,

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Britain's first ever regular early-morning television programme.

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A very good morning to you all.

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It was a brand-new world that we were going into.

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We didn't know whether it would work on air, whether it would fall apart,

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and we didn't know whether the audience would like it or hate it.

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It was very exciting. It really was. Because we'd been working at it for months.

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And now I'd like you to meet the other faces

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whom we hope will become regulars over your breakfast table.

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An intrigued British public turned on in the millions,

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witnessing the expected fare of news and sport...

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I've never had it so early in my life, all this sport.

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There's no answer to that, Frank, actually, is there?

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There was an unexpectedly casual approach to weather.

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Francis Wilson will be taking regular looks

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through his Window On The Weather. Hello, good morning.

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-Good morning.

-What's the view like this morning?

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Well, it's rather gloomy, rather monotonous.

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I decided we wanted our own weatherman because the Met Office

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weather people were slightly grey, I thought.

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We'll go on to the weather now. Francis.

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Sun up, sky is blue, not a cloud to spoil the view...

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If only that were true.

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But such meteorological innovations were as nothing when, at 6:50am,

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an unsuspecting public got their first glimpse of the Green Goddess.

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One, two.

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One, two.

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One, two.

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Anybody else like to join us?

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Anybody standing around there? Come on in and join us!

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Anybody over here? Come on, sir. Come and join us.

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With Frank at the helm and Selina exuding a dreamy

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early-morning charm, the British public expressed their approval.

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I've actually just got one I want to say,

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from Trevor Dixon from Penge,

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or Penge-sur-mer in that part of the world.

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He says, "A brilliant show but it's an unexpected choice of presenters."

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Good. I tell you what, we would like to hear from you

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if you think it's a complete waste of time as well.

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Do ring us up. Take your time.

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As the show got into its stride, so the novelty continued.

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Mr Russell Grant will be with us as the resident astrologer,

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meeting our guests and reading their signs.

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This was innovation.

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This was, you know, Auntie lifting up her skirts

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and showing us a little bit of petticoat.

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Or, in my case, a bit of an old mohair jumper.

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The thing is, for all Virgos watching and yourself,

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the next year is a very, very important year

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but I want you to take it easy.

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And so, as Britain acclimatised to such hearty breakfast fare,

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a jubilant and relieved cast celebrated a smooth,

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hitch-free first transmission.

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Oh, my giddy aunt!

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THEY LAUGH

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The programme took over.

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It just seemed to go really well and spontaneously,

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when the red lights went off at the end of the first show,

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we were all cheering.

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We just knew we'd got this. We knew it had worked.

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I watched Breakfast Time when it went on air and I thought, "Wow!

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"That's really nice programming." They got it dead right.

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It was a very ITV sort of programme on the BBC.

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You've been watching the first edition

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of BBC Television's Breakfast Time.

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I hope you'll join us again from time to time.

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God bless and good morning to you.

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We came off the air and we'd survived.

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There was quite a large party and quite a lot of sherry was taken.

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For the last few months we've been thinking only of today, January 17th.

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We have to now think of tomorrow and Wednesday and next week

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and Easter and the summer and the winter and it goes on and on and on.

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The BBC's opening salvo proved to be a hit

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with a broad range of the Great British public.

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Can I ask you what you think of the idea of breakfast television?

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Marvellous. You can have a drink

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and watch the television and go back to bed when it's finished.

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-I thought it was good.

-What did you like about it?

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Well, it tells you sports, tells you the latest news, weather.

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So you can bring an umbrella out or what.

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But also keeping a close eye on proceedings were the TV-am big guns,

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knowing that in just two weeks' time,

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they would enter the fray.

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Breakfast Time got off to a very good start and quite clearly,

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the BBC was regarded as a strong if not overly strong competitor

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to this new, commercial child which TV-am was.

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But I think TV-am, in the first instance,

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had such a very, very strong team leading it

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that there was a great deal of confidence.

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We all knew that however good our programme was,

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we were going to be trounced by TV-am.

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I remember a journalist coming up to me and saying,

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"Look, you're a very steady, reliable broadcaster but look at them!

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"They've got David Frost, they've got Michael Parkinson,

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"they've got Anna Ford, they've got Rippon, they've got Kee.

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"They're going to bury you. Let's face it. They will bury you."

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For two whole weeks,

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Breakfast Time had sole occupancy of the battlefield,

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where they had not only honed and refined their machine,

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they had also acquired an audience.

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While the public had shown there was an appetite for breakfast telly,

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the famous five got ready to open fire.

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It's good fun getting up this time of day, isn't it?

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-AS DAVID FROST:

-Hello, good morning and welcome!

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And so, after two years of preparation,

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they were at last unleashed upon the world.

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OK, gentlemen.

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-Now, this time...

-20 seconds.

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Sh, sh, sh. OK, guys.

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In contrast to the BBC's modest opening, TV-am went big.

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An opening befitting the famous five.

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Hello, good morning and welcome to TV-am.

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New studios, a new news service and a new national network.

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We'd just like to say thanks very much for joining us

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this morning on what's obviously a very, very important day for us

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and we do hope that you are going to stay tuned to us

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not just for this morning's programmes but every morning,

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every day of the week at least for the next eight years.

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Good morning, Britain.

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Where the BBC presented an unashamedly magazine-driven format,

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TV-am kicked off with a hard news agenda,

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opening with the programme Daybreak.

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Hello. Good morning if you've just joined us.

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It's just after 6:00am on Tuesday, 1st February and this is Daybreak.

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I turned on at 6am to watch TV-am and there was Robert Kee

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as though he was presenting Panorama! At six in the morning!

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The Soviet Union has not reacted yet to President Reagan's offer

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to meet the Soviet leader, Mr Andropov, to sign an agreement

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banning all medium-range land-based nuclear weapons.

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However, after the unrelenting first hour of hard news,

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at 7am the fun began with magazine show Good Morning Britain.

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Good morning. Good morning.

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Welcome to Good Morning Britain for the very first time.

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First up, though, some more news.

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It's just after seven o'clock here, of course.

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It's just after ten o'clock in Moscow.

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There's still no reaction from the Soviet Union

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to President Reagan's offer to meet the Soviet leader, Mr Andropov.

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Then the weather with ex-Navy Commander Philpott.

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We're going to bring order to the weather today, David. Thank you.

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In spite of which, it is going to be extremely windy over most of

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the country and the wintry showers in the north are going to move southwards.

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The show seemed to be all right,

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although I certainly felt that it had been a bit heavy at times.

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Did you think, in that earlier story,

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that there is any hope in that Reagan initiative or more of the same?

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I think it's frightfully difficult to work out.

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I'll never forget that long interview - I think with Norman Tebbit.

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Yes, after an hour of hard news, at 7:12am, to brighten up the day,

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a short film about unemployment

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followed by a 12-minute-long interview

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with the man in charge of it.

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There was no point, for example, going on in British Steel,

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where it was taking 15 man hours per tonne of steel.

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It's under ten now.

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However, it wasn't all news. There were celebrity guests...

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It's a great pleasure to have you here, sharing this one.

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It's nice to be here on this relatively historic occasion.

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-HE LAUGHS

-..heart-warming animal stories...

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There's a very nice, mad story in the Mirror this morning,

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about a family watching their pet budgerigar levering open

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the bars of his cage with his beak and squeezing through.

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Unfortunately, he died the next day.

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Obviously, the effort from the daring escape affected his heart.

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-Isn't that sad?

-..and a live-action comic strip.

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Just imagine, ours is the only village in the country

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where under a royal dispensation from Edward VII,

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public executions are still officially allowed.

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From the very beginning, there was this tremendous mix of genres

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within the framework. So, for example, Through The Keyhole

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was one of the first elements to be broadcast on TV-am.

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This doesn't belong to a wimp at all, this room.

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It's very much a room that someone who read James Bond

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and took him seriously in the '60s would have.

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So, there was always an intention to mix things up

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yet to have a sort of serious and fairly robust approach

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to news and current affairs.

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And that seemed to work on day one.

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We'd just like to thank you for joining us this morning

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and if it's all right with you, we'd like to come again tomorrow.

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-Good morning.

-Good morning.

0:18:150:18:17

Show over, the famous five cracked open the bubbles.

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To our viewers. To our viewers.

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On the day of the launch,

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this is a bit like a Formula One victory parade, as it were.

0:18:330:18:36

There's a lot of excitement, there's a lot of self-congratulation,

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there's a log of pretty girls and lights and champagne

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and everybody is celebrating.

0:18:450:18:47

That's terrific. You've finally got on air.

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This is the day we've been working to for two or three years

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and things seem to be working.

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A view echoed by Grub Street's finest the next morning.

0:18:550:18:59

With both sides having launched their assaults,

0:18:590:19:02

the press declared the victor.

0:19:020:19:05

I remember being very surprised at the press reception

0:19:050:19:08

of the first TV-am programme.

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Because I thought it was rubbish.

0:19:100:19:12

I mean, I was so relieved when I saw it.

0:19:120:19:15

I thought, "They've just got this wrong."

0:19:150:19:17

But actually, the press gave them a pretty good write-up

0:19:170:19:20

and I thought, "Well, OK, fine. I've misjudged this."

0:19:200:19:23

I think one of the most surprising things about the launch

0:19:230:19:26

of breakfast television in this country was that the two stations

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seemed to be doing exactly the opposite to what you expected.

0:19:280:19:31

You expect from the BBC a very serious, heavy programme

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full of analysis et cetera, et cetera,

0:19:350:19:37

and you got fluffy jumpers, a stargazer and keep-fit classes.

0:19:370:19:41

And you expected from TV-am exactly that

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and what you got was this rather ponderous, arrogant sort of -

0:19:440:19:47

and, I have to say, rather boring at times - programme.

0:19:470:19:50

I think people thought, "First day. Of course it's going to be serious.

0:19:500:19:53

"Second day they'll do that for the reviewers

0:19:530:19:56

"and then they'll become something else."

0:19:560:19:58

When they didn't, that surprised us all

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and certainly surprised the tabloids,

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who thought it was going to be jokey and sexy and like us.

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And it wasn't.

0:20:090:20:10

Where once there had been nothing,

0:20:100:20:12

viewers of all ages were now confronted with a stark choice.

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To wake up to the frothy Breakfast Time...

0:20:150:20:18

Question. How do you get a pint of milk through a letter box?

0:20:180:20:21

Clearly not in a bottle or indeed one of these plastic containers,

0:20:210:20:25

which is, of course, the other way of containing milk these days.

0:20:250:20:27

But if you do that, that, that and that and spread it,

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then quite clearly, that would go through a letter box.

0:20:340:20:39

..or to pledge allegiance to the occasionally ponderous TV-am.

0:20:390:20:42

It was evidence of what a proletarian society Russia was

0:20:420:20:46

because he was the...

0:20:460:20:48

For him to become the boss of the party because he was the only

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former KGB man who didn't go to Oxford or Cambridge.

0:20:510:20:55

-A sort of good thing. Anna.

-Thank you, David. You're so well educated.

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Television is about the content.

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You know, average presenters can make...

0:21:020:21:05

Can be fine if the content is good.

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Very good presenters die if the content is rubbish and in this case,

0:21:080:21:12

the content was rubbish.

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I don't know. The idea of donating your body to medical science...

0:21:140:21:17

-Have you thought of that?

-I don't know.

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We had that line when we were doing that promotion

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about Norman Tebbit had donated his body to medical science

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but that medical science was contesting the will.

0:21:260:21:29

Perhaps they might do the same in my case. I don't know.

0:21:290:21:32

The real problem started when the BARB ratings came in.

0:21:320:21:36

By the end of the second week, it became clear that Breakfast Time

0:21:360:21:41

was wiping the floor with us for audience.

0:21:410:21:43

As the weeks and days went by and the famous five tried to struggle on,

0:21:430:21:47

our ratings went up and up and up and theirs went down and down

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and down and that was a very, very happy time for Breakfast Time.

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One of the things I've enjoyed this week is the fashion spot

0:21:520:21:55

-and speaking to people outside, they too.

-I love fashion.

0:21:550:21:57

-I thought it's brightened up our whole programme, Frank.

-It has.

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What happened in the first weeks of battle

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can only be described as a morning massacre.

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Breakfast Time's dawn raids had seen them

0:22:070:22:10

completely overwhelm the forces of TV-am,

0:22:100:22:13

forcing the fledgling company into a hasty, disorganised retreat.

0:22:130:22:17

Very soon there was an element of fear and trepidation

0:22:200:22:24

within the building that ratings were bad

0:22:240:22:26

and therefore advertisers weren't exactly flocking in.

0:22:260:22:28

And therefore the money wasn't flocking in and there was a problem.

0:22:280:22:31

Advertising revenue had been projected to be

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at least 18 million, 20 million, and it was actually 3 million.

0:22:340:22:40

The viewing audience had been projected to be

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something like 6 million. It was 300,000.

0:22:420:22:46

Clearly, you know, for the shareholders

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who had put a lot of money up,

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to see ratings at that level was a worry.

0:22:500:22:53

The presenters were grossly overpaid by themselves, of course,

0:22:530:23:00

and costs were allowed to run away with themselves,

0:23:000:23:03

partly through managerial inexperience.

0:23:030:23:05

Peter Jay had many fine qualities

0:23:050:23:08

but being an executive was not one of them.

0:23:080:23:11

That took some time to dawn.

0:23:110:23:13

Up until the moment we went on air, there was great unity,

0:23:130:23:19

optimism and cohesion in the group.

0:23:190:23:24

And indeed, a few days before we went on air, the board,

0:23:240:23:29

on a motion proposed by Jonathan Aitken,

0:23:290:23:32

congratulated me on these achievements

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and bringing the thing to this point of fruition.

0:23:350:23:39

Things changed after we went on air because the programmes were very bad.

0:23:390:23:42

The board of TV-am, the company behind ITV's breakfast programmes,

0:23:420:23:46

meet this morning amid pressure for changes at the top.

0:23:460:23:49

Some of the big shareholders are said to want the chairman

0:23:490:23:52

and chief executive, Peter Jay, to give up one of these positions.

0:23:520:23:56

"TV-am chief Jay is facing the axe."

0:23:560:24:00

That's on the front page of the Sun.

0:24:000:24:03

But no crowing from you.

0:24:030:24:05

I haven't said a word!

0:24:050:24:07

At a meeting in the City of London, instigated by two key investors -

0:24:070:24:11

cousins Jonathan and Timothy Aitken -

0:24:110:24:14

Peter Jay was being asked

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to surrender his position and name Jonathan as his successor.

0:24:160:24:20

One of the stories in this morning's papers

0:24:200:24:22

is of course about intrigue at TV-am.

0:24:220:24:25

High dramas going on in the boardroom this morning.

0:24:250:24:27

We gather, apparently, that our chairman Peter Jay is going to be asked to resign.

0:24:270:24:31

We want to send him a message from everybody here this morning

0:24:310:24:33

simply saying, Peter, if you're watching, don't resign.

0:24:330:24:36

We like you very much and would much rather you stayed.

0:24:360:24:39

Despite presenter support,

0:24:390:24:41

in reality Jay was in a no-win situation.

0:24:410:24:43

He could stay and see investors pull the plug on the company

0:24:430:24:47

or leave and allow it a chance of survival.

0:24:470:24:50

I thought, "If Jonathan wants it that much - to be the top guy -

0:24:500:24:54

"that he is prepared to threaten the ruin of the company

0:24:540:24:58

"and all that we have worked to do,

0:24:580:25:01

"then it would be wholly irresponsible and wrong for me

0:25:010:25:07

"to fight him over this because what would we have

0:25:070:25:10

"but a sort of a playground squabble

0:25:100:25:13

"between two guys who wanted to be top chap?"

0:25:130:25:16

I hadn't the slightest wish to be top chap.

0:25:160:25:19

I didn't want to run a television company.

0:25:190:25:22

I was an emergency stand-in because I was the only person

0:25:220:25:26

on the board who had any previous television company experience.

0:25:260:25:32

Before news of any decision had filtered through,

0:25:320:25:35

Anna Ford and Angela Rippon took to the ramparts

0:25:350:25:38

to express their support for Peter Jay.

0:25:380:25:41

Little did they know they were marking their card

0:25:410:25:43

with the new regime.

0:25:430:25:45

We think the board is panicking and Peter is being made a scapegoat.

0:25:450:25:48

Peter has done magnificently with this company.

0:25:480:25:51

He's held it together under difficult times.

0:25:510:25:53

You referred to treachery earlier this morning in the interview.

0:25:530:25:55

-Yes, I did.

-Treachery by whom?

0:25:550:25:57

I can't say, I'm afraid, but I can say there have been

0:25:570:26:00

acts of enormous treachery behind the scenes.

0:26:000:26:03

It sounds as if this is the end of TV-am.

0:26:030:26:06

-Don't be silly!

-It's the beginning!

-THEY LAUGH

0:26:060:26:09

-Rubbish!

-Bye-bye!

0:26:090:26:12

Bye-bye!

0:26:120:26:14

I think Peter's departure was a shock because he was such

0:26:140:26:17

a significant figure, such a major and important figure.

0:26:170:26:22

But we soon got used to the revolving door.

0:26:220:26:25

Having ousted Peter Jay,

0:26:260:26:29

the Aitkens' plan was to relaunch the channel.

0:26:290:26:32

Their first move was to shunt the honeymooning David Frost

0:26:320:26:35

from the sofa, giving a battlefield promotion

0:26:350:26:38

for sports reporter Nick Owen.

0:26:380:26:40

But that was only the beginning of the changes,

0:26:400:26:43

as within a month, Jonathan's cousin Timothy was to take the reins.

0:26:430:26:47

I knew that Timothy, my cousin, was a rougher diamond than I was

0:26:470:26:53

and was likely to cut more sharply

0:26:530:26:56

and brutally than I ever would have done but he did the job.

0:26:560:27:00

We've got about 30 seconds left so we can both say goodbye

0:27:000:27:02

and all those people who've rung in all week and said,

0:27:020:27:05

"When are you going to get rid of Angela Rippon?"

0:27:050:27:07

Your dream has come true because I'm not going to be here next week.

0:27:070:27:10

But make the most of it cos I shall be back a week after.

0:27:100:27:13

But Angela was never to return to the field of battle.

0:27:130:27:16

I presented with Anna and Angela for a week each,

0:27:160:27:19

and then suddenly they were sacked.

0:27:190:27:21

It was so dramatic. I had no idea about...

0:27:210:27:23

I got a call from a friend of mine at ITN and he said,

0:27:230:27:26

"What's this about Anna and Angela being sacked?" I said, "What?"

0:27:260:27:29

Here were ITN telling me, and I was in the same booming building!

0:27:290:27:32

I've got nothing to say.

0:27:320:27:34

I've simply been given a letter saying I've been sacked

0:27:340:27:36

and I've given it to my lawyer so I can't say anything. He said, "Don't say anything."

0:27:360:27:40

I was called in and told I was sacked.

0:27:400:27:42

-What did they say to you?

-I can't tell you that.

0:27:420:27:45

-Were you given any kind of reason?

-No.

0:27:450:27:49

Unfortunately, both Angela Rippon and Anna Ford technically

0:27:490:27:53

breached their contracts by speaking out

0:27:530:27:55

at the time of Peter Jay's departure.

0:27:550:27:58

My problem was that I didn't have time to do anything

0:27:580:28:01

except reduce the costs in the company if it was going to survive.

0:28:010:28:05

It was not a personal...

0:28:050:28:06

..involvement on my part.

0:28:080:28:10

I didn't realise that Anna

0:28:100:28:12

and Angela would have taken this very wonderful

0:28:120:28:16

but very risky action in demonstrating

0:28:160:28:19

against the Aitken takeover,

0:28:190:28:21

which then very considerably damaged their careers.

0:28:210:28:25

And I regret bitterly for the rest of my life

0:28:250:28:29

that I didn't foresee that danger and didn't forestall it

0:28:290:28:32

by calling Anna and Angela and saying,

0:28:320:28:37

"Look, I have decided to stand down for these reasons."

0:28:370:28:40

For the famous five, the dream of breakfast telly domination lay in ruins.

0:28:400:28:45

I remember one moment we were standing on the third floor

0:28:450:28:48

of this building in Camden Town and there was a canal beneath us

0:28:480:28:53

and I was standing there, looking out the window.

0:28:530:28:55

I turned around and David was looking at me and he said,

0:28:550:28:58

"Who jumps first?" I think if we'd gone together it'd have been about right.

0:28:580:29:02

From the very beginning, the famous five had been headline news.

0:29:020:29:06

But even after their exit from the battlefield,

0:29:060:29:08

they were still able to hold the front page.

0:29:080:29:11

For those who haven't yet gone down to the newsagent's

0:29:110:29:13

and seen the papers, Anna Ford went up to her former boss

0:29:130:29:15

when she met him at a party for the first time since she was sacked

0:29:150:29:19

and threw a glass of wine in his face.

0:29:190:29:22

I was enjoying the cocktail party and then from some distance away,

0:29:220:29:25

some wine was thrown.

0:29:250:29:28

And it seemed at the time a rather trivial incident

0:29:280:29:31

but it was then written up two or three days later

0:29:310:29:35

in a hugely dramatic way.

0:29:350:29:37

The whole of the front page of the Daily Mail was,

0:29:370:29:40

"Anna's Grapes Of Wrath."

0:29:400:29:42

# I can feel it coming in the air tonight... #

0:29:440:29:48

I had my wine glass filled up and walked over

0:29:490:29:53

and threw it at him because that's how I was feeling.

0:29:530:29:56

And I don't regret it at all.

0:29:560:29:58

How many people have congratulated you on your actions over the years?

0:29:580:30:01

Quite a lot. Quite a lot.

0:30:010:30:04

Is it really vital to us

0:30:040:30:06

when civilisation's on the razor's edge that we know about Anna Ford?

0:30:060:30:10

She's everywhere.

0:30:100:30:12

-It's quite an amazing story!

-Is it?

0:30:120:30:14

Well, isn't it?

0:30:140:30:15

Even as a freelance,

0:30:150:30:17

I just felt that I was in the middle of this insanity.

0:30:170:30:21

And what was kind of destabilising, I guess,

0:30:210:30:26

is the fact that as someone who knew nothing about television,

0:30:260:30:30

I looked around me and there was absolute pandemonium.

0:30:300:30:33

And when I glanced at the people who should have known something about

0:30:330:30:36

television, I could see that they thought it was pandemonium as well.

0:30:360:30:41

As the ship was sinking at Camden Lock,

0:30:410:30:43

-the BBC wallowed in their surprising victory.

-Lovely. Will you excuse me?

0:30:430:30:46

-Certainly.

-I've got an engagement on the other side of the studio. Nice to meet you.

0:30:460:30:50

The fact is that we began to realise that we were going to bury them

0:30:500:30:54

and we did bury them.

0:30:540:30:55

Good morning. How are you?

0:30:550:30:57

'We obviously won the ratings battle'

0:30:570:30:59

and there was big explosions coming from the other side.

0:30:590:31:03

I mean, red wine was thrown.

0:31:030:31:04

Presenters disappeared into the far distance,

0:31:040:31:07

or the near distance, or were never seen again.

0:31:070:31:09

We were very chirpy and cheerful and, dare I say,

0:31:090:31:12

a little bit pleased with ourselves for the first six months because

0:31:120:31:16

we couldn't believe just how strong the audience was in our favour.

0:31:160:31:19

But, you know, you've got to be careful about that.

0:31:190:31:22

Anyway, I've now got to learn how to reverse.

0:31:220:31:25

-I think I'll just pull out and leave you to the weather.

-OK.

0:31:250:31:27

By mid-May, the battle for Britain's breakfast

0:31:270:31:31

had reduced TV-am to tatters.

0:31:310:31:34

Having lost two of their presenters and their general, who had

0:31:340:31:37

guided them from inception to the battlefield, all seemed lost.

0:31:370:31:41

In what had been nothing short of a breakfast blitzkrieg,

0:31:410:31:44

the BBC revelled in the 90% share of the audience.

0:31:440:31:49

As a last-ditch measure, TV-am appointed a new general

0:31:490:31:53

to lead the fight back - LWT producer Greg Dyke.

0:31:530:31:57

Well, the day I arrived...

0:31:570:31:59

I arrived on the Monday and that was the same day that

0:31:590:32:02

Timothy Aitken sacked Anna and Angela.

0:32:020:32:07

I went in, a happy bloke, smiling a lot...

0:32:070:32:09

People would come in my office and cry.

0:32:090:32:12

I've never come across anything like it.

0:32:120:32:14

People were literally crying around the office

0:32:140:32:17

because they'd worked themselves to death to get this thing on air,

0:32:170:32:20

it was then a disaster and of course, it was known as "ailing TV-am",

0:32:200:32:24

and my job was to pick it up and turn it around.

0:32:240:32:28

How do we get an audience for this thing and make some money?

0:32:280:32:31

From the beginning of Breakfast Time, the on-screen

0:32:310:32:34

relationship between Frank Bough and Selina Scott had blossomed.

0:32:340:32:38

Selina Scott, if you're smiling at me, I will never speak to you again! I did get one bubble.

0:32:380:32:42

-One bubble!

-One big bubble!

-I didn't see it.

0:32:420:32:45

I'll come over there and check later.

0:32:450:32:47

I said to Ron Neil, "Why have you put Selina and me together?"

0:32:470:32:51

He said, "With you and Selina, I regard you as beauty and the beast.

0:32:510:32:55

"She's so beautiful and you're so bloody ugly," he said. And that worked!

0:32:550:32:59

Quite simply, you are a beautiful woman. Everybody knows that.

0:32:590:33:02

You're making me blush, Frank! Honestly!

0:33:020:33:04

Over at TV-am, Field Marshal Dyke's first move was to find replacements

0:33:040:33:09

for the decommissioned big guns of Anna Ford and Angela Rippon.

0:33:090:33:13

Feet.

0:33:130:33:15

After your head, they're probably the most important part of your body.

0:33:150:33:18

But they're prone to all sorts of ailments and disorders

0:33:180:33:22

and we all know, when your feet hurt, life can be hell.

0:33:220:33:24

So you go to a chiropodist,

0:33:240:33:26

but what sort of treatment can you expect when you get there?

0:33:260:33:29

Greg Dyke called me and said,

0:33:290:33:31

"Tell me about this Anne Diamond." And I said how good she was

0:33:310:33:35

and how close we were

0:33:350:33:36

and what a great relationship we'd had on regional television.

0:33:360:33:40

And he said, "Can you arrange for me to meet her?"

0:33:400:33:42

They met in a pub that night and six weeks later, she was on the sofa.

0:33:420:33:46

Greg sat down and just explained to us his philosophy

0:33:460:33:49

and he said that he thought it was about a mission to entertain.

0:33:490:33:53

And he said, "This isn't going to be a champagne building any more,"

0:33:530:33:56

because that's what they used to do.

0:33:560:33:58

They'd spent a lot of money on champagne launches

0:33:580:34:00

and things like that. He said, "This is a beer-and-skittles company now.

0:34:000:34:04

"This is the sort of television we're going to produce.

0:34:040:34:07

"It's going to be fast and furious and, by the way,

0:34:070:34:10

"do you mind reading the bingo numbers out?"

0:34:100:34:13

Now, another lovely face. Annie with the bingo numbers.

0:34:130:34:16

It's about time I had a compliment! Right, it's bingo time.

0:34:160:34:18

For all you newspaper bingo addicts, we're going to give you the numbers

0:34:180:34:22

in today's Sun, Daily Star and Daily Mirror, so here goes.

0:34:220:34:24

And first of all, it's the Sun numbers.

0:34:240:34:27

The great advantage of having a television show where there's

0:34:270:34:30

nobody watching is you can try all sorts of things.

0:34:300:34:33

And some work and some don't. And if you think they work, keep them in. If they don't work, don't bother.

0:34:330:34:38

No-one's going to know cos there was no audience anyway.

0:34:380:34:41

We just started trying things.

0:34:410:34:43

It was pretty populist stuff. We had to get an audience quickly.

0:34:430:34:47

Now, for all Popeye fans,

0:34:470:34:48

we'll be joining the muscle-bound mariner in a few minutes, but first,

0:34:480:34:52

did you know that today is the start of National Brownie Tea Making Week?

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With a new presenting team in place,

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the axe next fell on the programme content.

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Battlefield casualties included the hard news agenda and Robert Kee,

0:35:010:35:05

the comic strip soap opera The Secret Life of Melanie Parker,

0:35:050:35:09

and Commander Philpott, who was banished to the weekends.

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Greg's recipe was to bring in just people who weren't stars.

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All the people he brought in were sidekicks.

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-You're taking this very seriously.

-I am indeed, Nick.

0:35:210:35:24

I've got a clipper board.

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I said, "I don't need you to do sport. What do you know about?" He said, "I don't know."

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I said, "What do you do with your time?" He said, "I watch telly." I said, "That's it!

0:35:290:35:33

"You're going to do television every week!"

0:35:330:35:35

Tonight, The Golden Girls. Actually, it's very funny. I like it.

0:35:350:35:40

Some of the ladies watching the programme, Greg discovered,

0:35:400:35:43

were a little bit overweight, so let's get Diana Dors in.

0:35:430:35:46

Let's lose weight with Double D Diana Dors!

0:35:460:35:49

Something for the dads there with Diana, something for the grandparents,

0:35:490:35:53

and something for the lady who wants to lose weight.

0:35:530:35:55

-Peggy, step forward.

-I think we should have a drum roll.

0:35:550:35:58

-She is beautiful, isn't she?

-Hello, Peggy.

-Hello.

0:35:580:36:01

You started at 11 stone 13.

0:36:010:36:04

-Yes, something like that. Nearly 12 stones.

-How do you feel now?

0:36:040:36:08

-Fantastic.

-Has it made any difference to your life?

-Oh, yeah.

0:36:080:36:11

-I've got a great sex life.

-A great sex life?

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We've got to move on to the scales now.

0:36:140:36:16

I think it's a bit early in the morning for that.

0:36:160:36:19

I'm very pleased for you! I'm very pleased for everybody!

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Wincey Willis was... We just liked her because of her name.

0:36:210:36:25

How can you have a weather person called Wincey Willis?!

0:36:250:36:28

Down in the south-western corner,

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into the Channel Islands, one or two showers coming in, some heavy,

0:36:300:36:33

and one or two thundery showers about as well.

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By midday today, temperatures scorching again.

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Every presenter had to have some sort of strange trademark.

0:36:380:36:41

Ready? Here we go!

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Bounce!

0:36:430:36:45

'She was my PA's fitness teacher, so I got her in'

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and her name was Lizzie.

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I said, "That's boring, isn't it? We'll call you Mad Lizzie. You go and do this," and she did that.

0:36:500:36:54

The recipes were done by a retired vicar called the Cooking Canon.

0:36:540:36:59

Who cares about figures? I don't! I'm working on mine - it's getting better every week.

0:36:590:37:03

There was a fishing correspondent called the Codfather.

0:37:030:37:07

Oh, my God!

0:37:070:37:08

Who loves skate and chips?

0:37:080:37:10

'Greg was devil may care. He just wanted to be Snap, Crackle and Pop.'

0:37:100:37:15

Can you spot the new look? Yes, you've got it. No woolly jumper.

0:37:150:37:19

Instead, a suit, a tie

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and an altogether more sophisticated approach.

0:37:210:37:25

'It was done by the seat of the pants, day in, day out.'

0:37:250:37:28

Trying to get things that would work.

0:37:280:37:30

Competition time.

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While the innovations of TV-am kept pouring in...

0:37:320:37:36

One slices a bagel in a transverse way to the axis.

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..over at Breakfast Time,

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it was very much a case of "carry on as you were".

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But with one crucial difference - no Frank and no Selina.

0:37:430:37:47

-Beautifully dressed this morning.

-Thank you very much. Good morning.

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While Selina is away on hols, Sue Cook is here with us again.

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And with the BBC big guns on leave, for the first time,

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TV-am sensed a chink in their opponents' armour.

0:37:580:38:01

# Get a great big blanket and a cool pair of shades... #

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Having noticed that TV-am's viewing figures went up during half-term,

0:38:040:38:09

General Dyke literally fought the Battle of Breakfast

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on the beaches, with new recruit Chris Tarrant.

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Good morning. Are you all right?

0:38:150:38:17

CROWD: Yes!

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'What we couldn't believe was that the first time'

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we crossed live to Chris Tarrant on the beach in Blackpool,

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which was like at about 6:20 in the morning...

0:38:280:38:31

Don't forget at 8:15, we shall be talking to Keith Harris and Orville.

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We crossed there live and there was a big crowd there already.

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So the audience was hungry for what we were trying to sell them.

0:38:400:38:44

Look at the state of this!

0:38:440:38:46

Chris Tarrant, the Lebanon, News At Ten.

0:38:460:38:49

What a sight! Still looking out for the ferret!

0:38:490:38:52

If this battle of the beach bulge was helping TV-am to find

0:38:520:38:56

an audience, one of its surviving presenters was helping to

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lead the resurgence.

0:38:590:39:01

Ha-ha-ha!

0:39:010:39:03

Hello, good morning and welcome. Ha-ha-ha!

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'Not only did I like Roland Rat,

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I liked the guy behind Roland Rat,'

0:39:080:39:10

who said to me almost on the first day when we met in make-up,

0:39:100:39:14

I said, "Why does it work so well, Roland Rat?" He said,

0:39:140:39:16

"Because Roland Rat's heart and soul are there, in the palm of my hand."

0:39:160:39:21

I thought, "Here is a puppeteer who actually believes in it."

0:39:210:39:24

He was a strange man because he was the most boring man in the world

0:39:240:39:28

until he put his arm up this rat's arse, in which case he became funny.

0:39:280:39:32

Can you tell us exactly when we're going to see you again on this television programme?

0:39:320:39:36

All the time! Non-stop! Yeah!

0:39:360:39:38

'He was just so irreverent, so rude, so unusual in those days.'

0:39:380:39:42

Sort of quite arsey with people.

0:39:420:39:45

And very arrogant. Very cheeky.

0:39:450:39:47

And absolutely brilliant. Called me "Nic-oh-lars"!

0:39:470:39:50

-Morning, Nic-oh-lars!

-Good morning, Roland. What are you wearing this lot for?

0:39:500:39:54

He called John Stapleton "Staple Gun" the whole time he was on

0:39:540:39:56

and poor old John is trying to be a news presenter and having a

0:39:560:39:59

puppet calling you Staple Gun is not the best means of giving gravitas.

0:39:590:40:04

-Give it to old Staple Gun there.

-Thank you, Roland.

-Morning, John.

0:40:040:40:07

I'm most impressed. That's very kind. Good morning, Roland.

0:40:070:40:10

'Roland Rat... Yeah.'

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As one wag said at the time, "I've heard of a rat deserting

0:40:120:40:16

"a sinking ship, I've never heard of a rat joining one."

0:40:160:40:19

And we'll come back after the break to meet our new presenter,

0:40:190:40:22

who is called Roland Rat, would you believe?

0:40:220:40:25

What we'll do to stem the ratings.

0:40:250:40:27

-What?

-Roland Rat.

-And that's going to be a presenter, is it?

0:40:270:40:30

Nick and I didn't have to feel threatened by Roland Rat

0:40:300:40:32

cos we'd all come in at the same time

0:40:320:40:34

and we were all just trying to build an audience.

0:40:340:40:36

I can see that the original famous five might have thought that

0:40:360:40:38

Roland Rat did not belong because he didn't belong in their master plan.

0:40:380:40:42

But the master plan had completely changed by the time I arrived

0:40:420:40:45

and Roland Rat was a very important part of it.

0:40:450:40:47

-I am a fan. I've got one of your T-shirts.

-Have you?

-Yeah.

0:40:470:40:50

Do you wear it all the time?

0:40:500:40:51

-Not quite all the time.

-Why haven't you got it on today?

-Well, you know.

0:40:510:40:54

She wanted to look smart.

0:40:540:40:55

I mean, that looks a right mess you got on there. What's that, then?

0:40:550:40:58

Some cheap thing, innit, eh?

0:40:580:40:59

'I like to think I did my bit.'

0:40:590:41:01

I like to think we all did our bit conveying a more sort of

0:41:010:41:04

serious news edge.

0:41:040:41:06

At the end of the day, we were probably saved by the rat.

0:41:060:41:09

HE LAUGHS

0:41:090:41:10

When you start from a base of nil, you move up.

0:41:100:41:14

Oh, we've hit 30,000 viewers.

0:41:140:41:15

50, 100, half a million, a million.

0:41:150:41:18

And I suddenly get a phone call from Clive Jones saying,

0:41:180:41:21

"We've overtaken the BBC."

0:41:210:41:22

With Frank and Selina

0:41:240:41:25

having been granted leave for the summer holidays,

0:41:250:41:27

TV-am's end-of-the-pier-show counteroffensive had

0:41:270:41:31

re-established them in the battle for breakfast.

0:41:310:41:34

TV-am started to recover.

0:41:350:41:37

They began to claw back the ratings and do rather better

0:41:370:41:40

and, well, it was a question of, will their station survive?

0:41:400:41:44

And it did survive.

0:41:440:41:46

The war for an audience for TV-am suddenly seemed winnable.

0:41:470:41:51

But it didn't have the certainty of the BBC's licence fee

0:41:510:41:54

and it was wracked by advertising disputes.

0:41:540:41:57

So many doubted its ability to last what would be a long campaign.

0:41:570:42:01

It was a shambles. Absolute financial shambles.

0:42:010:42:05

There were times when we didn't get paid

0:42:050:42:07

and Anne and I used to go to the accounts department or wherever

0:42:070:42:09

and say, "Our money hasn't gone in."

0:42:090:42:11

They'd say, "Sorry, it's the computers."

0:42:110:42:13

You'd have to go to the head of finance every month

0:42:130:42:15

and plead for your paycheque.

0:42:150:42:17

No-one was paid and they came up with the usual fib about it

0:42:170:42:21

being a computer problem, you know. Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

0:42:210:42:24

They'd no money.

0:42:240:42:25

Nobody in television had ever come across this.

0:42:250:42:27

Television had always been well paid with lots of money flashing around.

0:42:270:42:31

Suddenly, there was a whole station that had no money at all.

0:42:310:42:35

So it was...different. As I say, I enjoyed it.

0:42:350:42:39

I thought it was very stimulating to see what you could do without money.

0:42:390:42:44

There was one day Anne and I were actually on air,

0:42:440:42:48

chatting away to camera, and I went into a film report or something.

0:42:480:42:51

The director came into our ears and said, "Don't be alarmed but you

0:42:510:42:54

"might find all the lights go out in a minute and the whole place comes to a standstill."

0:42:540:42:58

I said, "Why?" He said, "We haven't paid the electricity bill

0:42:580:43:00

"and they're in reception now, about to turn the power off."

0:43:000:43:03

And that was true.

0:43:030:43:05

And I think Greg came in and paid a whacking great cheque,

0:43:050:43:07

which later bounced, but it just staved off the problem immediately.

0:43:070:43:10

There was an advertising agency working for us who phoned me up

0:43:100:43:13

one day and said, "If we don't get paid...

0:43:130:43:16

"..we're not going to do any more work."

0:43:180:43:20

And I said, "I wouldn't do that."

0:43:200:43:22

They said, "Why?" I said, "There's two piles here.

0:43:220:43:24

"There is the ones who still work for us.

0:43:240:43:26

"They've got a chance of being paid.

0:43:260:43:28

"The other lot have got no chance at all."

0:43:280:43:31

And they carried on working and in the end they got paid.

0:43:310:43:34

While TV-am remained in the financial mire, the BBC,

0:43:340:43:38

despite losing some ratings,

0:43:380:43:39

still had cause to celebrate what had been a momentous year.

0:43:390:43:43

# Mornings used to be oh, so boring

0:43:440:43:48

# Nothing to do except stretching and yawning

0:43:480:43:51

# But then a year ago

0:43:510:43:54

# Came the birth of a brand-new show

0:43:540:43:57

# So happy birthday, Breakfast Time

0:43:570:44:00

# You're one year old and you're looking fine

0:44:000:44:04

# A new institution A small revolution

0:44:040:44:07

# Happy birthday, Breakfast Time. #

0:44:070:44:14

But as the BBC machine rumbled on relentlessly

0:44:140:44:17

despite the occasional mishap...

0:44:170:44:19

I had an encounter with the M4 this morning.

0:44:190:44:21

-I hope my wife's not up.

-What do you mean an encounter?

0:44:210:44:23

Well, there was nobody about but I hit a patch of ice

0:44:230:44:26

and I spent 200 yards trying to decide

0:44:260:44:28

whether the car was going into the central reservation or the ditch.

0:44:280:44:31

Oh, heavens.

0:44:310:44:32

..things were even more accident prone over on the other side.

0:44:320:44:36

TV-am kind of felt like being a citizen of a banana republic

0:44:360:44:39

at one stage because every time you

0:44:390:44:41

looked around there was someone new in the presidential palace.

0:44:410:44:44

With losses of over £1 million a month threatening TV-am

0:44:440:44:48

with financial oblivion, they turned to Australian tycoon Kerry Packer.

0:44:480:44:53

He, in turn, ensured that one of his own was there

0:44:530:44:56

to oversee the investment.

0:44:560:44:58

Step forward Bruce Gyngell.

0:44:580:44:59

Bruce was walking testosterone. Bruce was walking ambition.

0:45:010:45:05

Bruce was not a little wallaby, he was a kangaroo.

0:45:050:45:09

He leapt into our world, he led from the front,

0:45:090:45:12

he was wanting to achieve and he was wanting to...the opposition.

0:45:120:45:16

While Greg Dyke had turned round the viewing figures for TV-am,

0:45:160:45:20

Packer's appointment was charged

0:45:200:45:22

with making the operation financially viable.

0:45:220:45:24

Now, the first week he was there, he took me out for lunch.

0:45:240:45:27

We did numerology.

0:45:270:45:29

I didn't know what was but basically it's about coins and numbers

0:45:290:45:31

and all this. Cos he was a bit cranky.

0:45:310:45:34

And we did all this and he said,

0:45:340:45:36

"Boy, this tells me wonderful things. We're going to get along so well."

0:45:360:45:41

And I'd gone within a month.

0:45:410:45:43

You have two enormously successful TV guys

0:45:430:45:47

with two reasonably sized egos

0:45:470:45:51

and Greg did, I think, feel,

0:45:510:45:54

"They're kicking me out of my own house and home,"

0:45:540:45:58

but sensibly didn't think,

0:45:580:45:59

"Would this work? Wouldn't this work?" He just went.

0:45:590:46:03

Bruce thought about things so carefully.

0:46:030:46:05

It was always a philosophy for him.

0:46:050:46:07

He believed that if you were going to switch on

0:46:070:46:09

the breakfast television set,

0:46:090:46:10

it had to have this lovely, warm glow to it.

0:46:100:46:13

'So he made sure that the set was oranges and pinks

0:46:130:46:17

'and that my wardrobe had to be pink, frankly. Pink or red.'

0:46:170:46:22

Or maybe yellow and orange but never blue.

0:46:220:46:26

And he made it very clear to me that he would sack me if I wore blue.

0:46:260:46:29

He insisted, absolutely insisted, that we were bright.

0:46:290:46:33

He went into the make-up room and said, "These kids,

0:46:330:46:36

"they're looking pasty-faced. Brighter. More orange."

0:46:360:46:40

Bruce had this wonderful kind of

0:46:400:46:41

post-hippie guru type of aura about him.

0:46:410:46:45

You know, the whole thing, his whole belief in pink,

0:46:450:46:48

the way he had a trampoline in his office.

0:46:480:46:51

He used to bounce on the trampoline every morning

0:46:510:46:53

and make other people bounce on the trampoline

0:46:530:46:56

cos it got rid of stress levels.

0:46:560:46:58

There was a lot of sort of funny,

0:46:580:47:00

quite humorous goings-on.

0:47:000:47:04

He was the first man I ever met who saw me wearing one

0:47:040:47:07

of my ludicrous jumpers and said to me, meaning it, "I like your style."

0:47:070:47:12

With the colour contrast now turned up to 11,

0:47:120:47:15

TV-am continued to close the ratings gap.

0:47:150:47:18

Do you like it? It's fabulous, isn't it?

0:47:180:47:20

-I'm not going to say no, am I?

-No.

0:47:200:47:22

And while historians would declare

0:47:220:47:24

the years of 1984-86 as a golden age for breakfast television,

0:47:240:47:29

in reality, the battle was to become like trench warfare,

0:47:290:47:33

with neither side able to achieve dominance.

0:47:330:47:36

During this stalemate, viewers could turn on the TV

0:47:380:47:41

and be forgiven for thinking they were watching the same show.

0:47:410:47:45

-It really does look dreadful.

-Well, it looks dreadful, it does.

0:47:470:47:50

SHE STUTTERS AND CHUCKLES Hello.

0:47:500:47:53

And then shrugging up the shoulders to the ears.

0:47:530:47:56

Amid this deluge of daily features,

0:47:560:47:58

the stalemate continued through to the very fibre of each programme.

0:47:580:48:03

We had jumpers for every day of the year. There was an Easter jumper.

0:48:030:48:06

Not just one Easter jumper but a host of them with bunnies, Easter eggs.

0:48:060:48:09

Christmas jumpers, Valentine's Day jumper.

0:48:090:48:12

Whatever the time of year, whatever the season, there was a jumper.

0:48:120:48:14

I could've sold jumpers, you know.

0:48:140:48:16

I could have made a million selling jumpers.

0:48:160:48:19

BBC Wardrobe were looking everywhere for sweaters.

0:48:190:48:24

'The great British public started to knit for me.'

0:48:240:48:27

But not just sweaters. You would get willy warmers that were knitted.

0:48:270:48:31

It was perceived as a battle of the sofas

0:48:310:48:33

and of course that's what it was.

0:48:330:48:35

I mean, outrageously, I suppose, when we'd come in, we had said,

0:48:350:48:38

"Right, we're not going to do what the famous five initially did.

0:48:380:48:42

"We're going to out-sofa Breakfast Time."

0:48:420:48:44

They were doing us.

0:48:440:48:46

TV-am was doing us.

0:48:470:48:48

TV-am were BBC Breakfast Time.

0:48:480:48:52

They were doing us.

0:48:520:48:54

They were being us.

0:48:540:48:55

By 1986, with their constant bombardment of fun and frivolity,

0:48:570:49:01

TV-am were consistently achieving 60% of the breakfast audience.

0:49:010:49:06

In the face of this assault, the BBC retreated.

0:49:060:49:08

The BBC decided to relaunch Breakfast Time with a desk.

0:49:130:49:17

Good morning and a very warm welcome to BBC Breakfast Time.

0:49:240:49:27

It's Monday, November the 10th and today we start a new look

0:49:270:49:30

but I hope you'll find us as welcoming as ever.

0:49:300:49:33

It was a sort of round, curved wooden affair

0:49:330:49:37

with the hint of a pot plant.

0:49:370:49:39

Frank was there with his sports jacket on and his tie

0:49:390:49:42

and I had shoulder pads that almost filled the screen.

0:49:420:49:47

As you can see, we've got a splendid new desk here,

0:49:470:49:49

from which we'll be giving you all the news of the day

0:49:490:49:51

and comment on the important stories of the morning.

0:49:510:49:53

And very smart you look, too, in your jacket.

0:49:530:49:56

Somebody up above said,

0:49:560:49:58

"I think Breakfast Time should be a bit more cerebral than it is.

0:49:580:50:01

"You know, let's have a bit more news."

0:50:010:50:03

And in today's programme...

0:50:030:50:05

The teachers' dispute - is an end in sight?

0:50:050:50:07

And beating the terrorists -

0:50:070:50:08

can the Europeans come up with a common approach?

0:50:080:50:11

So, what happened was you got terrific success on your hands

0:50:110:50:15

and somebody comes and punches it.

0:50:150:50:17

A lot of people in the BBC are much more comfortable

0:50:170:50:19

if you're behind a desk and you've got a suit and tie on.

0:50:190:50:23

And that is not what I think breakfast television was ever about.

0:50:230:50:28

But it's a tendency in the BBC - just toughen it up, old boy.

0:50:280:50:31

It was I think what the BBC secretly wanted.

0:50:330:50:35

It bored the pants off the nation

0:50:350:50:37

but it was what the BBC hierarchy secretly wanted.

0:50:370:50:41

The general public, who had come to love the woolly jumper approach,

0:50:410:50:44

vented their fury.

0:50:440:50:46

I'm afraid it's not Breakfast Time. It's not.

0:50:460:50:49

The mood isn't the same. It's gone.

0:50:490:50:51

I felt, if I ate my breakfast while I was watching,

0:50:510:50:54

I'd end up in detention.

0:50:540:50:55

I'd like to see something that makes me feel relaxed and watching

0:50:550:50:59

Sally Magnusson and Frank Bough behind a desk

0:50:590:51:01

does not put me at ease.

0:51:010:51:03

You've got a great success on your hands,

0:51:030:51:05

like Ronald Neil produced for the BBC,

0:51:050:51:07

it seems to me a terrible thing to change, to want to change it.

0:51:070:51:11

But they did.

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Bruce Gyngell said to us, "This is a gift." And it was, of course, a gift.

0:51:130:51:17

I can see why people at the BBC might have said,

0:51:170:51:19

"They've out-sofaed us so therefore

0:51:190:51:21

"we go back to what the BBC is good at and there will always be

0:51:210:51:25

"an audience for that."

0:51:250:51:26

But it was a gift to us and we ran and ran with it. Of course we did.

0:51:260:51:30

For the next 12 months, the morning breakfast battle

0:51:300:51:34

saw the bright-eyed and bushy tailed TV-am firmly

0:51:340:51:37

in the ascendancy, often hitting audience figures of 2.7 million -

0:51:370:51:42

double that of the BBC.

0:51:420:51:44

For one man who'd overseen the early BBC triumphs,

0:51:440:51:47

the breakfast war was over.

0:51:470:51:49

I just thought the management moved the goalposts a little early

0:51:500:51:53

after the first version.

0:51:530:51:54

I think it had a lot more life in it and could've been adapted.

0:51:540:51:57

But there you go. I mean, the BBC calls the shots

0:51:570:52:00

and they have the right to make the decision.

0:52:000:52:02

I decided I would leave and, indeed, of course,

0:52:020:52:06

I didn't leave the programme that I'd started.

0:52:060:52:08

It was an entirely different programme so the departure wasn't

0:52:080:52:11

particularly painful.

0:52:110:52:13

I had three heroes in broadcasting.

0:52:130:52:16

One was David Frost,

0:52:160:52:18

another was Michael Parkinson, who I ended up working with,

0:52:180:52:21

and a third was Frank Bough, who was on the other side.

0:52:210:52:25

I thought Frank Bough was the ultimate broadcaster. And still do.

0:52:250:52:29

Frank Bough's retirement from the battlefield saw the BBC become

0:52:290:52:32

even more entrenched behind their desks, enlisting such

0:52:320:52:35

hard-hitting journalists as Kirsty Wark and Jeremy Paxman.

0:52:350:52:39

Good morning. It's seven o'clock on Tuesday the 1st of November.

0:52:390:52:43

This is the BBC's Breakfast Time

0:52:430:52:44

and these are the main news stories overnight.

0:52:440:52:47

Meanwhile, TV-am continued as a lean, mean sunshine machine,

0:52:500:52:54

which, despite the departure of breakfast veteran Nick Owen,

0:52:540:52:57

was not only winning the ratings war,

0:52:570:53:00

with audiences of nearly 3 million, it was also properly making money.

0:53:000:53:04

But it then picked a fight with itself.

0:53:060:53:09

With most unions now on their knees,

0:53:090:53:11

Margaret Thatcher saw TV as the last bastion of restrictive practices

0:53:110:53:15

and, when the technical union ACTT called a strike,

0:53:150:53:19

Bruce Gyngell retaliated by locking them out.

0:53:190:53:22

Bruce had clearly pledged to himself and to Margaret Thatcher, I think,

0:53:220:53:25

that he would beat the unions even if it took locking them out and using

0:53:250:53:30

non-union labour to man the cameras and work all the gizmos and gadgets

0:53:300:53:34

that a television studio has and, ultimately, he kept his word.

0:53:340:53:38

He led from the front. He was in there behind the cameras.

0:53:380:53:41

You know, the management took over.

0:53:410:53:43

There we were, professional presenters sitting on the sofa

0:53:430:53:47

but behind that camera was a lady who, last week, was head of accounts

0:53:470:53:51

and behind the camera over there was somebody who was advertising manager.

0:53:510:53:55

And working all the buttons in the background was somebody else

0:53:550:53:58

who, you know, was a management figure.

0:53:580:54:01

We are prepared to keep manning the cameras

0:54:010:54:03

and operating the studios and VTs

0:54:030:54:05

until such time as they accept the ten-point plan we've put forward.

0:54:050:54:08

Start off on camera two.

0:54:080:54:09

The latest national and international news from Sam Hall in Washington

0:54:110:54:15

and Gordon Honeycombe here in London. Gordon.

0:54:150:54:17

Hello. I'm still here.

0:54:220:54:25

On to the newspapers this morning.

0:54:250:54:27

We did have Gordon Honeycombe a moment or so ago.

0:54:270:54:29

We thought it would damage the franchise but it didn't at all,

0:54:340:54:38

actually. It just shows what the audience want, doesn't it?

0:54:380:54:40

Thank you, David, and good morning.

0:54:400:54:42

The news headlines on Sunday, March the 20th.

0:54:420:54:45

The Army has named the two soldiers...

0:54:450:54:48

Even amid the chaos,

0:54:480:54:50

TV-am could do no wrong,

0:54:500:54:52

with audience figures during the strike actually going up.

0:54:520:54:55

For the BBC, languishing with 30% of the audience share,

0:54:570:55:00

the darkest hour was before and just after the dawn.

0:55:000:55:04

Where is this man, whatever his name is, who's talking about seals?

0:55:040:55:07

Where's Dr John Harwood? Quick, quick, quick, quick.

0:55:070:55:09

-Where is Dr Harwood, please?

-Somebody get him in there.

0:55:090:55:12

Is he here? Or is he in a studio somewhere?

0:55:120:55:14

Somebody talk to me, for Christ's sake!

0:55:140:55:17

With Breakfast Time having become

0:55:170:55:18

an uneasy mix of hard news and fluff,

0:55:180:55:22

in 1989, the BBC ditched the breakfast magazine show experiment

0:55:220:55:26

for some unrelenting hard news.

0:55:260:55:28

A very good morning to you and welcome from Jill and me.

0:55:320:55:34

The time is eight o'clock.

0:55:340:55:36

You're watching the first edition of the BBC's Breakfast News.

0:55:360:55:40

He'd triumphed in the ratings and defeated the union.

0:55:410:55:45

Now, counting Margaret Thatcher as a personal friend,

0:55:450:55:47

Bruce Gyngell's technicolor TV-am just had to secure the renewal

0:55:470:55:52

of the original franchise to ensure another glorious eight years.

0:55:520:55:56

The first seven years of TV-am were quite extraordinary.

0:55:560:55:58

From nothing, it went to something huge and, under Bruce Gyngell,

0:55:580:56:02

the rocket really took off

0:56:020:56:04

and I think Bruce thought that he was unbeatable.

0:56:040:56:07

He'd beaten the unions, he'd beaten the BBC, he was the golden boy.

0:56:070:56:12

And he assumed that he was going to have the franchise renewed.

0:56:120:56:15

Good evening. Mrs Thatcher has told TV-am

0:56:190:56:22

she's heartbroken that it will lose

0:56:220:56:24

its licence to broadcast breakfast television.

0:56:240:56:26

In 1990, the Conservative government had revised the rules

0:56:260:56:30

on bidding for independent television franchises.

0:56:300:56:33

Despite Gyngell turning TV-am into the very model of Thatcherism,

0:56:330:56:37

well, rules are rules.

0:56:370:56:40

"I'm only too painfully aware that I was responsible for the legislation.

0:56:400:56:45

"Yours sincerely, Margaret Thatcher."

0:56:450:56:48

And in the "all's fair in love and war" world of breakfast telly,

0:56:480:56:51

it was Sunrise Television, led by a TV-am exile, who took the spoils.

0:56:510:56:57

When we won it...

0:56:570:56:59

..there's always a degree of revenge is a dish best delivered cold.

0:57:010:57:06

And there's a few people in your life

0:57:080:57:10

you'd like to get your own back on and Bruce was one of them and we did.

0:57:100:57:14

The battle for Britain's breakfast of 1983-91

0:57:170:57:20

was a unique chapter in British broadcasting,

0:57:200:57:23

with the upstart commercial venture of TV-am giving the mighty BBC

0:57:230:57:28

a run for its money before fading from the battlefield.

0:57:280:57:32

We now have to say it finally. Thank you and goodbye.

0:57:320:57:35

ALL: Goodbye.

0:57:350:57:37

In this war of the sofas, there were many casualties but both

0:57:370:57:40

the victors and the losers had changed the TV landscape for ever.

0:57:400:57:45

If you look back now at Britain before breakfast television,

0:57:450:57:47

it was fairly stiff and starchy and formulaic.

0:57:470:57:50

Breakfast Time worked because you couldn't quite

0:57:500:57:53

predict as a viewer what you were going to see next.

0:57:530:57:55

SHE GIGGLES AND SHRIEKS

0:57:550:57:58

It was the unexpectedness of it, you know.

0:57:580:58:00

It made television more accessible to people.

0:58:000:58:03

It was cosy, it was chatty,

0:58:030:58:04

we invited viewers to give us their opinion.

0:58:040:58:07

"Nick is not boring," says Francis of London.

0:58:070:58:09

Thank you, Francis.

0:58:090:58:11

And they felt a part of it and I think that was a big, big difference it made.

0:58:110:58:14

You can have a really, really personal relationship with your audience.

0:58:140:58:18

Even more so now they can tweet and text in and things like that.

0:58:180:58:21

I think it's brilliant.

0:58:210:58:23

I think breakfast television has done us all a power of good.

0:58:230:58:25

I think, certainly, breakfast television did introduce

0:58:250:58:29

a much greater degree of informality to the media.

0:58:290:58:35

Was that a good thing or not? I don't know.

0:58:350:58:39

Ladies and gentlemen, live, all the way from George Square, Glasgow,

0:58:390:58:44

Mr Tony Ferrelli singing Memories

0:58:440:58:46

inside a washing machine.

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# Memories

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# Like the corners of my mind

0:58:530:58:57

# Misty, watercolour memories

0:58:580:59:05

# Of the way we were. #

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