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This is a programme about abstract art. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's a subject that can be as heavy or as light as you like. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
For me, it's just natural because I'm always doing it | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
so I'm thinking about it all the time. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
But I also think about basic questions that many people have: | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
How do we respond to abstract art? | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Is it supposed to be hard or easy? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Is it about something or does it exist entirely on its own? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
You see, abstract artists chucking paint around, why be so vague? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
But then when they're precise, how does that help? | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
These could seem unanswerable questions, but abstract art | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
has been around for 100 years now, and is an ongoing thing. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
By exploring the private world of living abstract artists, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
and looking at some key figures from abstract art's history, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm going to show you that in fact there are answers. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Amid complicated and potentially confusing works, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
there are hidden rules you might not expect. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Hey. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
-Hello, Matthew, lovely to see you. -Lovely to see you. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
No gap? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
-No gap, I'm going to get you to take some of it off. -Oh, OK. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
I work every day in a studio, paint abstract paintings | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
based on patterns together with my painting partner, Emma Biggs. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
-You know how sometimes you get scrapes into it? -Yes. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-Can you get some scrapes into it? -Yes, that kind of scrape. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
-Yes. -Like that? OK. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
But Emma's really the generator of the colours - she thinks them up, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:04 | |
she physically mixes them, she mixes up the paint and she places them. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
I'm the applier. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
It's a kind of double act which, most of the time, the main emphasis | 0:02:11 | 0:02:17 | |
is on what comes out of Emma's head. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
-Yeah, that's better. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
The history of abstract art is really | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
a history of experiment, so a lot of things come up in experimentation. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
You've got colour theory art. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
People do very honourable and serious types of art | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
based on scientific ideas of what makes colours zing together. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:49 | |
Then you've got abstract art which is all about accident, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
but all of them are trying to find some kind of visual metaphor | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
which will be rich enough for what one might call reality. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Art is partly ideas and theories | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
but it's really only anything at all because of how it looks. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Looking is something you have to get used to. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Here are some abstract squares. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
The kind of thing people often glance at | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
and then turn away from baffled. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The one on the left is by Mondrian, a famous figure, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
and the one on the right is by Liubov Popova who's less well | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
known - we'll be meeting both those artists later. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Each painting has shapes that echo the basic shape of the thing | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
they appear on, the square shape of the canvas. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
In hers you're seeing squares stretched out, fragmented, morphed | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
into triangles, tilted so they seem flying or full of movement. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
In his abstract squares the colour is stark, based on contrast. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
With hers the colour is continuous and sympathetic. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
The grey and the pink are a softer version of the harder | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
black-red-white relationships. The grey and pink take the eye | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
back gradually, making space throughout seem three-dimensional. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
So opening up to abstract values is an adventure | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
and you start by being willing to look. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
The dynamism of the way in which shapes are placed prevents | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
you from reading that white as if it were a hole that can seen through. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
It reads clearly as 'over' the other colours. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
That's not easy to pull off, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
it depends on the minor displacement of the angles everywhere. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Pink follows red and grey has a blue-green character that | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
also complements the red. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
It's the colour in Popova's painting that contributes more than anything | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
else to the difference between her squares and Mondrian's squares. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
If abstracts have got something to do with reality | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
but the artists aren't going to picture reality - why not? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
And what reality are we talking about? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Art had been expected to picture reality according to approaches | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
and styles that were acceptable to most people - | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
a lovely landscape by Rubens. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
But then, in the 19th century, new ideas about reality meant | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
Cezanne could picture reality as patterned shapes. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
In the early 20th century the Cubist painter Braque | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
responded to Cezanne by picturing reality as a flattened space. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:15 | |
A few years later abstract art responded to Cubism with shapes | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
and spaces only. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
People's sense of what was real was up for grabs | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
because everyday existence was full of rapid change caused my science. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Artists saw spirituality as both a challenge to the | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
power of science and a way of harnessing it. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
This counterintuitive idea came from the spiritual movement of | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Theosophy, which was founded in New York in 1875 by Helena Blavatsky. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
Blavatsky took aspects of eastern religion | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
and aspects of science, mostly evolution, and came up with | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
a spiritual movement based on evolution of the soul. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
Abstract art started at the very peak of Theosophy's popularity. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
People thought spirituality was like X rays or infrared radiation | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
or electricity. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
It could be revealed. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
There were a lot of different artistic takes on the spiritual, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
but the strangest was the earliest. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Hilma Af Klint who was born in 1862 and lived and worked in Sweden. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
These are paintings by her from 1907. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
For decades nobody knew about them, but recently they've emerged | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
and started to be exhibited all the over the world. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
From totally invisible she's become the main | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
excitement about historic abstract art. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
A woman doing abstraction, plus doing it so it's full of meaning. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
What kind of meaning? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Abstract artists were into spirituality | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
but Af Klint thought of herself as being in touch with actual spirits. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
She conducted seances in this room | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
and received messages from spirits who were called the High Masters. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
She produced 23,000 pages of notes, working out what the | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
High Masters were telling her to paint. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
It was all Theosophical meaning. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Theosophy says colours and shapes can symbolise the soul's journey. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
The tip of a coloured pyramid is the soul arriving within | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
the golden circle of pure spirit. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
And there's pure spirit, Theosophy claims, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
when dark is balanced with light, masculine with feminine. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
All Af Klint's painting are profoundly Theosophical. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
The not-Theosophical thing about them is the general look. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
This look doesn't come from spirits, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
because, to risk controversy for a moment, there's no such | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
factual thing as a spirit - they are mental projections. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
To have the ability to create such a mental projection without | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
suffering debilitating mental illness is a fantastic thing. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
But when it comes to creating a work of art, a mental projection | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
alone isn't sufficient because art isn't made just from visions. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
It's made from visual traditions, the other abstract artists, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
rooted in the visual traditions of painting, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
explained themselves only partly by spirituality. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
With her it's everything. It was beamed down to her | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
by a High Master on the astral plane who commissioned paintings from her. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
She knew what the reason was. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
So that those down on the earthly plane, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
if they've enlightened themselves enough, might benefit from them. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
That could be you, so keep an open mind. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
It was only recently, decades after her death in 1944, at 82, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
that Af Klint became known. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Now her work is categorised as the first abstract art | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
but there's very little evidence she thought of it as art at all. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Rather than abstraction, a type of art that didn't exist in 1907, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
she thought it was direct meaning. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
To us it looks like abstract art | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
but it's really diagrams explaining theosophical ideas. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
To see what else there is to abstraction | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
you have to look elsewhere. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
The Russian artist, Wassily Kandinsky, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
is the lord of abstraction. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
He said it was created from inner necessity | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and it didn't need nature to picture. It contained | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
all of nature anyway, just in abstract art's shapes and colours. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
He meant the artist's sensitivity, his feelings | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
and memories are full of nature's impressions. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
They can be got down onto the canvas in a completely abstracted way. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
This is a painting by Kandinsky from 1912. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Its title, Painting With Black Arch, encourages you to think about | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
only what you're actually seeing. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
That black arch is unmistakable | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
but Kandinsky knows that seeing art is a kind of heightened | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
seeing - it's made loaded by you being very visually alert, and | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
by your thoughts and expectations being primed by some kind of theory. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
The book of the Lord is called On The Spiritual In Art. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Kandinsky published it in 1911 and it was read throughout Europe. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
It was the first moment of abstract art becoming widely known. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Like Hilma Af Klint, Kandinsky was inspired by Theosophy's | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
notion of a coming New Age of the Great Spiritual. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Kandinsky's artistic approach was different | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
to Hilma Af Klint's though. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
She thought paintings were diagrams to be interpreted by study. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
He thought the actual materials of painting - colour, shape, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
line - could be manipulated to affect the soul. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
His line moves across the paper, it's captured on film in the 1920s. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
He's in his 60s and has been painting abstractly | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
since he was in his late 40s. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Making a mark, he doesn't know in advance what's going to happen, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
because he's not copying anything, but his instinct for making is | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
guided by his experience of making, judging what works what doesn't. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
That's a visual thing, not a spiritual thing. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
He had to get the spiritual to connect to the visual. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Madame Blavatsky was not Kandinsky's only spiritual mentor. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
This is a meditation centre built by one of Blavatsky's followers | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Rudolf Steiner. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
Kandinsky read Steiner's theories - he was drawn to Steiner's | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
proposal that we all inhabit not one but several bodies | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
and one of these, the astral body, is invisible. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
He began attending Steiner's lectures in 1908. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
By coincidence, this was the same year that Hilma Af Klint | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
first met Steiner. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Unknown to each other, these two pioneers of very different types | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
of abstract art, were each equally aware that Steiner's education | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
programme in Theosophy had the title "How To Know Higher Worlds." | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
Art could be higher than nature, Kandinsky concluded. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Theosophy was essential in the mix but he needed other elements too. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
They were the primitive, the musical and the way colour works. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
The surfaces of the place he painted in, in Bavaria, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
were covered in simple art, done by unknown artists - | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
anything outside the Western mainstream, he called it primitive. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
The primitive, he claimed, gets to the essence of the spiritual. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
His insight about music and art is that music affects us profoundly | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
but it doesn't represent anything. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
He said art could be like music. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
His paintings before abstraction were glowing landscapes, composing | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
them gave him a clue - working with colour was like playing the piano. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
He said colour is the keyboard, the eyes are the hammers | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
and the soul is the piano with its many strings. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
The artist is the hand that plays, touching one key and then | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
another key in order to make the soul vibrate. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
He was struck by Impressionist paintings by Monet | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
that could be imagined not even to be pictures, he thought, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
but just colours and by his own landscapes. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
One day he saw a painting that had really good colour. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
He didn't realise it was one of his own on its side. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Trivial accidents like not recognising your own painting | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
or not realising a picture is a picture were the jolts of absurdity | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
that Kandinsky needed in order to get his abstract experiment going. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
So the theory in action, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
the black arch in Painting With Black Arch is the means | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
by which the red shape dominates the blue shape, bearing down on it. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:56 | |
The black is the accent that animates everything. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
Let's take a major rhythmic organisational idea, like music. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
The painting goes diagonally there | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
and is countered by different a diagonal movement here. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
One movement counters another. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
The arch's blackness is continued elsewhere in other black lines, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
variations on a theme, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
pronounced or merged-in depending on their surrounding colour, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
like musical chords depend for their mood on what chord comes next. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Well, the visuals of Painting With Black Arch have a logic | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
that can be explained in musical terms - repetition | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
and surprise, movement countermovement. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
It's not just logic, it's sensual impact, and in my view it's great. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
Where does the idea that abstract art is difficult come from - | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
from the viewer or the artist? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
What would it mean if Fiona Rae said her abstracts were spiritual? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
If Kandinsky's rule was to transcend nature, her rule is | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
the rule of surprise move. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
At the moment, I'm experimenting with making a painting | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
just in black and white. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
I usually use colour. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
What's the reason to not use colour? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
I don't know how quite to express that in a positive way | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
but I suddenly felt incredibly fed up with colour, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
and I wanted to start again by clearing everything out | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and go back to a very basic black and white beginning. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
I've seen a really nice sort of loopy gesture | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
that I think I can put down here. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
It really, the process... I know that it's quite strange being filmed | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
doing this but the process really is like this. It's like, "Shall I?" | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
"No, I won't. "Yeah." "No, I won't." "What about?" "No, actually." | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
And then suddenly you do something like that quite casually | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
without even thinking about it. So I'm just going to... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I also think it's important not to take the same size brush | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
or the same bit of colour | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
and repeat it all over a canvas like a sort of pattern or something. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
So although a finished painting needs to have its own rhythm | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
and its own structural integrity, I like the idea of somehow | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
getting different bits of paint language to join up | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
and do that and not to do with little repetitions. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-So you don't literally join up by doing the same thing? -No. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-There are differences, different zones of energy. -Yeah. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
Like kind of, I want the viewer to not be entirely sure | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
what the focus is or what the most important thing is. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
That the whole thing overall is the experience. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
I suppose that, in a way, maybe that's what makes me | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
an abstract painter. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
In that I think that the marks all exist as themselves, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
in themselves, and by themselves, as well as going together | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
to make some image you might read in one way or another. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
Yeah, you're aware that there are component parts | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
but there is also an energy running through them all that unifies them. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
Yes, and I'm also trying to make a picture of something | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
that doesn't exist, which is an impossibility of course, but... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
..I'll just keep trying. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Maybe that's a good definition of abstraction? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
I think so, yeah. Yeah, it is, it's an impossible task | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
but it's a very interesting one. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
When colours are related together by abstract art, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
it's not just colours artists like or they hope the public will like. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
They're noticing something | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
that colour does - how it can be wrong or right, in or out of key. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:54 | |
How the colour of light in the real world filters out all | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
differences and creates a single visual register within which | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
all differences are unified. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
In 1914, Sonia Delaunay, one of the great founders of abstract art, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:23 | |
created this colour painting. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
It's called Electric Prisms. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Delaunay invented a whole new way of compressing | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
arrangement in art down to colour and form. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
What are colour and form? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
Form in art means arrangement or structure, but it also means | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
the individual elements that the structure is made up from. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
Think of music. A piece of music is an arrangement, or a composition. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
But it is made up of smaller musical events that are all related | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
together so there is a single unity, which is what composition is. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
The composition is a form | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
and the individual musical events are forms too. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Colour isn't something that exists and light reveals it to us. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
Colour IS light. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
And Delaunay's abstract rule was to create light by scientific laws. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:44 | |
In the 1910s, abstract artists were awed by the power of science. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
If it could cause people to get round the world at high speed, and | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
communicate with each other across vast distances, as well as explore | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
the depths of the unconscious as psychoanalysis was doing - | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
the modern science of the mind - maybe science could also radically | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
transform art, so art could be a cosmic vision of everything. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
Throughout history, artists had played | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
with our perception of colour intuitively, but in the 19th century | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
science began codifying new laws about how we perceive colour. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:39 | |
Colours go from red to mauve to blue, through all the spectrum, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
and round back again to red. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
For a long time this had been visualised as a colour wheel. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
But in 1855 the colour chemist, Eugene Chevreul, said colours | 0:26:56 | 0:27:02 | |
opposite each other on the wheel have the same intensity | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
and placing them side by side causes what he calls an optical vibration. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
Delaunay absorbed that scientific rule and took it over to serve | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
her own rule of painterly evocation of the emotional lift of light. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:24 | |
Softened colour is subjected to a rigorous but wavering grid, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
that circular layout. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
The grid is the form she's using. She's unafraid of breaking it. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
Colour overlaps the borders onto adjacent colours | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
following a colour need. Where there is a chance that the | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
relationship between the colours threatens to be the visual | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
equivalent of out of tune, she changes the colour logic. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Bringing light green over purple so primrose will sing out. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
Or intensifying yellow red to darker red so it will connect to | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
a rhythmic pulse of dark and light accents everywhere. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Delaunay was married to another colourist, Robert Delaunay. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
They were impressed that their friend Kandinsky liberated | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
colour from having to picture anything. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
But the Delaunays had a very different approach to Kandinsky. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Think of them in Paris over there | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
and him working in Germany over there. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
Colour in Kandinsky is emotion - emotion events. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
They're interwoven to create a dynamic drama. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
He doesn't use the full range of colours. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
With Delaunay it's just a simple design - radiating bands. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
But she uses a vast range of colour | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
and it's a real enquiry into what colour can do. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Every single element of the painting is about a fusing or | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
clarifying of form through subtle adjustments of colour | 0:29:14 | 0:29:20 | |
so that the overall form, or composition, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
celebrates light as a sheer, overwhelming, spirit-lifting force. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:30 | |
The Delaunays got that radiating circles layout from the glow | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
of colour around the electric lights by night in Paris. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
The old gaslights had only just been replaced by electricity. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Sonia Delaunay recorded in her memoirs at night on walks, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
arm in arm, we enter the era of light. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
The halos made the colours and shadows swirl and vibrate like | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
unidentified objects falling from the sky and beckoning our madness. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
In 1912, when Kandinsky's On The Spiritual In Art was spreading | 0:30:28 | 0:30:34 | |
its message, Robert Delaunay wrote a manifesto called, simply, Light. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
The manifesto had a climactic last sentence, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
like the words of a colour prophet, "Let us attempt to see." | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
The rule John McLean obeys is the rule to keep | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
looking for the infinitesimal adjustments that will give | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
simple shapes a convincing subtlety, like light in the world. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
Let's go on and get rid of that iridescence. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Oh, look, I really like the way that red's differentiating | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
-itself from the rest. -Yeah. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
So they're very simple shapes but it's the treatment of them | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
as well as the placement of them that's important. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Yes. I do quite a lot of landscapes. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
I don't feel any... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
I feel a complete continuity between figuratively painting | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
and abstract painting. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
I don't see any difference | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
and I realise perhaps I'm not really a purist. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:19 | |
Yes, you don't think it's about the purity of the abstract forms, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
you think there's a continuity between abstraction and reality. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
-Absolutely. -The visual world. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Yes, absolutely, absolutely. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
It's interesting that already I'm feeling, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
"No, maybe I was being too... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
"..impetuous", | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
but it's a very beautiful passage | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
that now with the nacreous stuff coming through the very thin | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
-glaze of red. -Indeed. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
And so maybe there's scope in this for something | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
with sheer beauty like the wing of a moth, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-or something fleeting like that. -Yeah. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
In fact that could be the redeeming bit of the whole painting. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Maybe I've won it after all. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
So the approach is partly to pick out the forms | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
and partly to allow the forms to seem to emerge from the ground. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
Yeah, and make sure the atmospheric | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
-and, I guess, just not atmospheric. -Yeah | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
I'd be loathed to touch that right away, it may be finished now. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:45 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
But I feel with my own work that the simpler I can make it, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:54 | |
in a strange way, the more profound I feel it is. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
For the Swizz artist, Paul Klee, whose abstracts were often nothing | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
but squares, nevertheless the rule was always to observe nature. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
In order to make something abstract seem true to the world around us | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Klee uses tonally graded colour. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Tone is different to colour. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Colour is colour but tone is the alteration of colour's vivid | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
bright vibrating impact by making that colour lighter or darker. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:46 | |
Tone here is mostly dark, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
but with a number of high spots where colour seems to sing out | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
like sunshine hitting a hill or light seen through the trees. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
In 1914, when Klee was 35, he went on a trip to Tunisia. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:21 | |
The trip was to alter him | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
from being one kind of artist to a completely different kind. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
And the big moment was an evening visit | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
to the Kairouan mosque in Tunis. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
You never really see the mosque in the dozens | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
of watercolours that he produced following this visit. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And of course it isn't Islamic culture or Islamic decorative art | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
that interests Klee in this moment. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
You see carefully controlled different degrees of | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
transparency and colour that tells you | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
about constantly shifting light. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
You get the feeling not that he saw something that was different | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
to anything he'd ever seen, like a colour miracle, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
but more that he came to the realisation that there was something | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
in him that he could work with | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
and that he hadn't attended to before and that he could now define. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
The power of his visual experiments from that trip | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
is in one thing affecting another - | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
as if everything is perception | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
nothing is anything in itself. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Everything is perception. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
The light on some glass or concrete, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
the organisation of shapes in the city, the look of the Earth, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
the shapes of clouds and their relationship to the horizon. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
We organise this sensual input just as we organise our minds about | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
who we are and where we fit in the world and how society is made up. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
Klee tried to do something about society. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
He was part of the Bavarian uprising in 1919. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
Within months this socialist revolution, inspired by events | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
in Russia, was crushed, the leaders murdered, and Klee's dreams | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
of a communist society sympathetic to his kind of art were ended. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
For the next 20 years, until his death in 1940, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Klee divided his time painting and teaching - most influentially in | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
the Bauhaus, the school of art and design set up in Germany in 1919. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
The first thing you have to do as a visual artist, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
he would tell his students there, is pay attention to the infinite | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
subtlety of tonal shades in nature. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
The Nazis had different ideas to Klee's about nature | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
and his art was publicly mocked, along with Kandinsky | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
and Mondrian, in the notorious 1937 exhibition called Degenerate Art. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
They called Klee a Jew even though he actually | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
came from a Catholic family and they said he distorted reality. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
We all hate the Nazis of course, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
but did they have a point about distortion? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
After all, what's the difference between Klee controlling colour | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
so there's a feeling of reality and him just distorting reality? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
Well, I agree with Klee - I think there is no single correct | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
interpretation of what's out there. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
We each organise what we perceive and create our own version of it. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Klee is trying to pick that process apart. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
He's offering proposals about what perception is. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
In our studio the rule is to think about what's really seen | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
when anyone sees anything. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
We can only see any kind of form because of the way light reveals it. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:02 | |
It's through light and dark | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
that you sort of understand the shape of something. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
So that's a fundamental aspect of seeing, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
that we're abstracting in our works. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
I mean, if you were to look at, for example, here. This area, which is | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
lighter or one side and brighter on the other, so that in a sense | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
you read as lighter, and those two areas you read as darker and that is | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
contrasted with lighter tones behind it and a darker tone behind that. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:35 | |
So it sort of gives some kind of a sense of the image occupying | 0:40:35 | 0:40:42 | |
space a bit like... As if it had some sculptural form I suppose. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
-Like a haystack in the field or a pyramid. -Yeah. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
So you've got light, dark and then you've got light, light, dark, dark. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
Yes, exactly. And when that is adjacent to something which does | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
immediately the opposite. Where you have light here, you have | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
dark there. Where you have dark here, you have light there. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Where that happens, consistently across the whole canvas, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
it gives you a kind of pulsing feel. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Yeah, so there is a rigid adherence to a system of light and dark. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
Like there is in life. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Light and dark, light and dark, wherever you look. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
The relationship between colour in abstract art | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
and what might loosely be called reality | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
doesn't always stay the same. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
It depends how colour is used. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
The next artist is the toughest as far as giving reality a break goes. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
It's Mondrian, who follows a rule of always using very few colours. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
Here's a painting by Mondrian in his famous style, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
severely minimal lines and rectangles. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
It's from 1922 and it's made up only of black lines and white, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:22 | |
or a sort of bluish off-white, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
and a few strong primaries - | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
blue, yellow, red. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Even these few elements are reduced down even more | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
in that the whole of the surface, or almost | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
the entirety of the surface, is just that white, or off-white. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
And the stronger colours are confined to accents | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
along the perimeters of the square - blue, yellow, red. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
The centre is opened out, so there's nothing there but a square. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
And that square seems to tell | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
you about nothing except the square of the outer edges of the painting. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:07 | |
In fact, every shape tells you about every other shape, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
in that it is either a variation on it or repetition of it. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
What else are you seeing in it? Nothing. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Except you could see more in what you're already seeing. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
You're seeing shapes talking to shapes, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
they're telling each other about themselves, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
they're defining themselves by their slight differences. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
He said the masculine is manifested vertically | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
the feminine, horizontally. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
It's the mysticism of Theosophy. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
Theosophy says in the future, all social imbalance will be | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
balanced out in a new societal shape. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
Mondrian says his art visualises that new shape. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
Here's Mondrian in his theosophical pose. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
He actually mixed Theosophy with the philosophy of Hegel. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
Hegel said the universe is governed by rules of tension | 0:44:15 | 0:44:20 | |
and contradiction. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:21 | |
In Mondrian's painterly version of Hegel's philosophical rule | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
that every element is determined by its contrary, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
Mondrian offers a line, but also a gap. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
There's a black bar that looks as though it will repeat to fill | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
that space, but it doesn't. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
In the first case, you're forced to see that line. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
Also the edge of the painting that the line stops short of. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
You're forced to consider that edge. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
And in the other case, you're forced to see that whole horizontal | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
empty rectangle he's started dividing | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
because he deliberately doesn't continue dividing it. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
Mondrian influenced modern architecture, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
but it had no interest for him. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
He thought architects were hopeless materialists. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
He envisaged a new-shape architecture environment | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
all over the world | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
that would be pure flat planes, lacking solidity of any kind. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:29 | |
I don't know how that would work and I suspect Mondrian didn't either. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
He's tough on what he thinks of as deception, he wants to get to truth. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
He's dealing all the time with ideas, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
but the main one is visual order. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
He provides a visual organisation so elegant and complex, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
that it's capable of endless reinterpretation, | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
but you've got to recognise in the first place that it is visual. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
And if the particular nature of that organisation - | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
pure abstraction - | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
accords with Mondrian's theosophical beliefs, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
namely that everything we see around us is only an illusion - | 0:46:13 | 0:46:19 | |
maya is the Indian word for that illusion adopted by Theosophy as | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
Theosophy adopts terms from all religions - | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
so a purely abstract painting is more true to the real reality that | 0:46:27 | 0:46:33 | |
lies behind everything than a painting that attempts to | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
capture aspects of the illusion version of that higher reality. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
That is a mind twist as well as a sentence twist. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
Nevertheless, the painting is a visual work of art that | 0:46:46 | 0:46:51 | |
demands to be seen on its own visual terms. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Nature doesn't disappear in abstract art - nature's laws | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
are condensed into a visual form, that's the rule Tess Jaray follows. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
Paintings that combine all sorts of processes including printing | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
instead of painting. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
I have to clean that up pretty fast. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
I see you're doing something that has to be quite precise, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
but precision isn't the meaning of what you're doing. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Absolutely not, precision is only ever a tool. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
It should look as though there is an ambiguity between what | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
is in front and what is behind. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
You can't quite tell | 0:47:34 | 0:47:35 | |
and that is a way of engaging people with the object. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
As you say, there is an ambiguity about the front and behind. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
There's a sort of flicker between the two colours. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
Exactly that, so you're not just being presented with something, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
you are being asked to participate. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
Yes, so in looking, you're kind of part of the process | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
-of what's happening. -Yes. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
But you're doing small things here that one could almost pick up | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
and hold like an icon or timeless objects. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
You're doing things that are very, very resolutely abstract | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
with only a couple of colours. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
There's a certain type of surface, very much | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
a physical thing as well as an optical thing. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
I think that is incredibly important. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
I mean, in a way, this is how we see the world. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Everything is surface. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
You know, when I talk to you, that's all I'm seeing. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Because I want the colour to be as intense as possible, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
I get it screen printed with oil-based ink. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
If I use paint, it's almost impossible to get a completely | 0:48:29 | 0:48:35 | |
smooth surface. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
The more evidence you have on a surface of the way it's done, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:44 | |
the less you're going to understand or feel the intensity of the colour. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:51 | |
Right. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
I mean, I would like to reduce everything down to its essentials. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
In that way, it's kind of following nature. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
So you're very, very concentrated visual events, in a way. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:05 | |
They're a concentrated, honed, condensed version | 0:49:05 | 0:49:10 | |
-of reality of the world. -Yes, exactly that. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
-Very simplified shapes. -Yes, and I try to say it with as little added, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
as little pretension as directly... I mean, this whole very | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
complicated system is really set up in order to produce something that | 0:49:23 | 0:49:29 | |
looks as though it's totally simple and it's just popped into the world. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
Jesus inside geometric shapes. This is an icon in the Byzantine style | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
from the 15th century. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
The Russian abstract artist, Malevich, respected this look. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
Byzantine art stripped down the realistic style that existed | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
in Greek and Roman times. Art that shows in detail how reality looks. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:10 | |
So a higher reality can be contemplated, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
Byzantine art ditched the detailed look in favour of simple signs. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
And for the same reason, Malevich displayed his abstract | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
paintings as if they were icons in a Russian church. He's offering | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
a modern proposal about simple signs serving a higher reality. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:37 | |
The rule that form is feeling, Kandinsky stated it, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
but Malevich took it to the furthest extreme. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
When Malevich created his pure geometric abstract art style, which | 0:51:02 | 0:51:07 | |
he called Suprematism, in 1915, the First World War was under way. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
There were food shortages, collapsing morale, there was | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
despair at brutality and death. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
The following year, Malevich was a soldier in the army himself. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
You're looking at squares again, what are these ones doing? | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
Two of them - one black, one red, one large, one small, one tilted, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:51 | |
suggesting movement. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
Paint is capable of so much more than this, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
so you know we're being told about extreme limitation. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
Two squares surrounded by white. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
There is a set of mathematical relationships there where | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
shapes and spaces are made to seem visually equivalent. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
So the black shape is the same as the white space underneath it. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
The white space to the right of the red shape is somewhat | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
the same as the red shape. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
There is a sense throughout of - this is this, this is this, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
this is the same as this. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
Movement implied by something very, very small. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:35 | |
You'd think you couldn't get much more reduced than that. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
But this painting was done very shortly after he created | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
a work called the Black Square. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
The most famous abstract painting in history. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
He redid the original several times | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
because its surface cracked. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
This 1923 version is a delight of | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
velvety-rich, granulated brushy blackness. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
The creation of something out of nothing, a painted something. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
There's something absurd about it, as if with Suprematism there's | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
a rightness of shapes, but insanity about how he got to that rightness. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:40 | |
He said the logical consequence of no-one ever being able to put | 0:53:41 | 0:53:47 | |
back together all the fragmented bits of reality in Cubism, is that | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
art should take the next step and abandon logic, embrace its absence. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
Malevich was offered a word for no-logic creativity | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
by the poets he knew, the word was "zaum". | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
The poets wrote manifestos for a changed | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
future in which the food shortages would be solved by transforming soil | 0:54:10 | 0:54:17 | |
into bread, horses would be free and there'd be equal rights for cows. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:22 | |
Where you might make out a table with a violin on it | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
in a Picasso Cubist painting, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
a Malevich Cubist painting would have a violin with a cow on it. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
His friends called themselves Futurists. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
He put on an opera with them in 1913. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
He provided sketches for costumes and sets | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
and two years later he elaborated this sketch into the black square. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
He painted it in a kind of ecstasy, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
he couldn't sleep or eat he was so jangled, it all seemed clear. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
He wrote that the black square equals feeling, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
the white field equals the void beyond feeling. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
Supreme in the word Suprematism - the name that Malevich gave | 0:55:21 | 0:55:27 | |
to his geometric style - means supreme over reality. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:32 | |
He said that the objects that make up this world are not reality. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
They might call forth feeling, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
but feeling separated from reality is the only true reality. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
He means the objects out there that we assume to make up | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
objective reality don't really. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
In fact, it's only by abstracting objects that we can get to reality. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
This has a long title but part of it is the term "fourth dimension". | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
It was fascinating to artists. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
Time warped by space or the other way round. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
Ordinary existence warps into higher existence in the fourth dimension. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:24 | |
That was the claim of the Russian Theosophist P.D. Ouspensky. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:29 | |
Malevich absorbed the Theosophical lesson like | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
so many abstract artist then and built it into his paintings, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
abstraction soaring into the beyond. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
He explained to his students, "we've come to the rejection of reason, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
"but only because there's a new form of reason now." | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
Some of Malevich's students would become the new Russian | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
avant-garde that would make him seem old-fashioned. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
They were called Constructivists. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
One of them was Liubov Popova. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
This is a design by her for the cover of a magazine from 1922. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:16 | |
The fact that it is abstraction turned to a functional use | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
tells you about the turn taken in the early '20s | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
by abstract art in Russia. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
Clarity, powerful, look-at-ability, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
but it's not about contemplating the ineffable. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
It's about making a magazine attractive and looking at new | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
things, because it's a magazine of new kino, new cinema. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
To appreciate that as a jump just as radical as abstraction being | 0:57:47 | 0:57:53 | |
invented in the first place, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
you have to look once again at what abstraction is. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
Abstraction strips everything down to form. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
But form can be radically different from instants to instants. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
Even though it looks like it's just more form. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
This painting by Popova from 1917 was influenced by Malevich's | 0:58:17 | 0:58:23 | |
teaching. The difference between it | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
and her magazine cover from a few years later when she'd become | 0:58:25 | 0:58:29 | |
a Constructivist is that form isn't a feeling for the Constructivists. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:34 | |
Form is useful. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
There'd been world war and civil war. Now there was extreme poverty, | 0:58:44 | 0:58:50 | |
violence, hunger, a breakdown of communication and transport. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:55 | |
And out of all that not just a new society had to be built, | 0:58:55 | 0:58:59 | |
but a type that had never existed before on Earth. | 0:58:59 | 0:59:03 | |
The Constructivists identified the factories as the centre | 0:59:07 | 0:59:11 | |
of production. Art should move there. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:15 | |
They even changed the name of art to production. | 0:59:15 | 0:59:17 | |
This is a Productivist sculpture by one of Popova's colleagues, | 0:59:22 | 0:59:27 | |
Vladimir Stenberg. | 0:59:27 | 0:59:30 | |
This form could be a prototype for what a socialist society | 0:59:30 | 0:59:34 | |
would actually look and feel and be like, as opposed to how such | 0:59:34 | 0:59:39 | |
a society had been theorised and dreamed of before the revolution. | 0:59:39 | 0:59:43 | |
Popova's shapes and spaces were for definite things. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:57 | |
These ones were for a banner for a revolutionary poets' club. | 0:59:57 | 1:00:01 | |
This was the cover of a catalogue for a Constructivist exhibition. | 1:00:03 | 1:00:07 | |
The controllers of the new revolutionary state were sceptical. | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
And eventually they did crush Constructivism and Productionism. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:21 | |
Well, "how are you really going to connect art to politics?", | 1:00:21 | 1:00:24 | |
Lenin said to the Constructivists when he visited them | 1:00:24 | 1:00:27 | |
in the new art schools his government set up | 1:00:27 | 1:00:31 | |
and paid for, when there was very little money for anything. | 1:00:31 | 1:00:34 | |
Popova taught Constructivists and she exhibited with them. They saw | 1:00:46 | 1:00:52 | |
no reason to drop abstract form just because no-one could understand it. | 1:00:52 | 1:00:56 | |
She died at 35 from scarlet fever after only a few months of success | 1:00:58 | 1:01:03 | |
in the factories with clothing designs based on geometric form. | 1:01:03 | 1:01:07 | |
And the whole | 1:01:14 | 1:01:15 | |
Constructivist/Productionist movement | 1:01:15 | 1:01:17 | |
was destroyed by Politburo decrees about form. | 1:01:17 | 1:01:22 | |
Abstraction relating to reality was out. | 1:01:22 | 1:01:26 | |
Reality had to be conveyed from now on by picturing instead. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:33 | |
By propaganda. | 1:01:33 | 1:01:35 | |
Constructivism failed, | 1:01:58 | 1:02:00 | |
abstract form would never again automatically mean Left politics. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:05 | |
It turns out when you make something, | 1:02:08 | 1:02:11 | |
you can't necessarily control its meaning. | 1:02:11 | 1:02:14 | |
Abstraction in Europe went quiet in the 1930s with | 1:02:20 | 1:02:25 | |
the rise of fascism in the West and totalitarian communism in Russia. | 1:02:25 | 1:02:31 | |
The end of the Second World War in 1945 saw | 1:02:38 | 1:02:43 | |
a revival of abstraction in lonely studios in New York. | 1:02:43 | 1:02:47 | |
Changing the world by cosmic visions, by spirituality, | 1:02:51 | 1:02:55 | |
or art giving a concrete form to socialism were not | 1:02:55 | 1:03:01 | |
the ideas context for abstraction any more. | 1:03:01 | 1:03:04 | |
Being an individual, being an outsider, | 1:03:04 | 1:03:08 | |
making those on the inside, the conformists, | 1:03:08 | 1:03:12 | |
see what freedom could be. These were the new ideas. | 1:03:12 | 1:03:15 | |
Many people think the rule of this artist is no rules at all. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:25 | |
In fact, you're seeing a rigidly architectural structure | 1:03:28 | 1:03:33 | |
achieved by nothing but free, loose flowing open marks. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:38 | |
It's an amazing balancing act, once you start to see it | 1:03:38 | 1:03:41 | |
and it shows that the standard criticism of Jackson Pollock, | 1:03:41 | 1:03:45 | |
that anyone could do it, is unfair. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:48 | |
Paint, very liquefied. Only black, no other colour, | 1:03:51 | 1:03:56 | |
thrown onto the canvas, and very briefly titled, Number 32. | 1:03:56 | 1:04:02 | |
The painting was done one day in 1950, with the canvas | 1:04:02 | 1:04:08 | |
rolled out on the wooden floorboards in his studio in New York, | 1:04:08 | 1:04:13 | |
in a rural part of the state a few hours' drive from the city. | 1:04:13 | 1:04:16 | |
Ten years before he'd been in therapy with a Jungian | 1:04:18 | 1:04:22 | |
analyst, trying to deal with the alcoholism that defined | 1:04:22 | 1:04:25 | |
Pollock's life as much as being an artist defined it. | 1:04:25 | 1:04:29 | |
He brought his drawings to the sessions. | 1:04:30 | 1:04:33 | |
Later their lines and spaces would be exploded | 1:04:33 | 1:04:37 | |
to become paintings on a vast architectural scale. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:40 | |
He said he was painting the aims of the age, | 1:04:51 | 1:04:54 | |
and he didn't need to paint nature because he was nature. | 1:04:54 | 1:04:59 | |
It looks pretty free. | 1:05:10 | 1:05:12 | |
There's something outrageously free about an artist throwing paint | 1:05:12 | 1:05:15 | |
and stepping on the painting. | 1:05:15 | 1:05:17 | |
But freedom is a meaning he wants to get across. | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
It comes from the climate of the times. | 1:05:22 | 1:05:25 | |
It's not the visual end result that his outlandish process | 1:05:25 | 1:05:29 | |
will actually create. | 1:05:29 | 1:05:31 | |
However he gets there, | 1:05:37 | 1:05:38 | |
he ends up with a tightly controlled rhythmic structure. | 1:05:38 | 1:05:42 | |
The canvas is regularly and rhythmically occupied. | 1:05:53 | 1:05:59 | |
Imagine the lighter lines without the heavier blobs. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:03 | |
Never mind how they're created, they contribute to the visual | 1:06:03 | 1:06:07 | |
complexity, it would be a very different effect. | 1:06:07 | 1:06:11 | |
The web of lines | 1:06:13 | 1:06:14 | |
and angles goes out to meet the outer edges of the painting, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:18 | |
pulling back, flowing out all round those edges, so what happens on the | 1:06:18 | 1:06:23 | |
perimeter is a controlled version of what's happening in the centre. | 1:06:23 | 1:06:29 | |
You read the meaning through what is impossible to miss - | 1:06:29 | 1:06:33 | |
the materials and how they're treated. | 1:06:33 | 1:06:35 | |
You're forced to see that the paint is paint, with its dried | 1:06:37 | 1:06:40 | |
lumpy bits and delicate stained bits, its range of textures, | 1:06:40 | 1:06:45 | |
reflective paint contrasted with paint that has been absorbed | 1:06:45 | 1:06:49 | |
by the canvas. Those textures are the things he's composing. | 1:06:49 | 1:06:53 | |
Their differences are what he makes a visual symphony out of. | 1:06:53 | 1:06:57 | |
An artist today in Deptford making something harmonious. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:11 | |
Paul Tonkin. Like Jackson Pollock, his rule is that harmony can | 1:07:11 | 1:07:16 | |
come from a surprisingly wild process. | 1:07:16 | 1:07:19 | |
This is just...what I do really. I just make these... | 1:07:20 | 1:07:25 | |
It's just a question of covering it with paint, basically! | 1:07:26 | 1:07:30 | |
But I like making these curvy shapes. | 1:07:30 | 1:07:35 | |
I suppose someone looking at it now might think, "Oh, landscape, | 1:07:35 | 1:07:39 | |
"hills, lakes." Is anything like that in your mind? | 1:07:39 | 1:07:43 | |
No, I'm just trying to get the stuff on there. | 1:07:43 | 1:07:46 | |
But, yeah, I can see what you mean! Of course. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:49 | |
It could look like the Loch Ness monster as well, couldn't it? | 1:07:50 | 1:07:54 | |
Except if something starts looking too much like something very | 1:07:54 | 1:08:02 | |
-specific, then I might... -Alter it? -..try and change it. | 1:08:02 | 1:08:06 | |
Yes, yes, yes. | 1:08:06 | 1:08:08 | |
Where shall I put the red? | 1:08:08 | 1:08:09 | |
How did you know where to put the blue and the yellow? | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
That's a good point, but now it's getting more complicated, you see. | 1:08:13 | 1:08:17 | |
But I'm treating it like a painting, which I do, you see, and it's not. | 1:08:17 | 1:08:21 | |
So we're looking at the creation of an under-painting | 1:08:21 | 1:08:25 | |
and this is part of a stage that you always go through. | 1:08:25 | 1:08:28 | |
It's the first stage, yeah. | 1:08:28 | 1:08:31 | |
And the under-painting has a certain life of its own | 1:08:31 | 1:08:34 | |
-and a certain rhythm. -Yes. -But it isn't the painting as such. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:38 | |
Well, when it's dry I'll look at it | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
and cut it into rectangles of different sizes | 1:08:40 | 1:08:47 | |
and then pin them to the floor | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
and then work on top of them. | 1:08:50 | 1:08:53 | |
And will those different rectangles be a separate painting? | 1:08:53 | 1:08:57 | |
Yes. | 1:08:57 | 1:08:59 | |
It's got a fantastic energetic movement. | 1:08:59 | 1:09:02 | |
Yeah, well, that's the thing, that's what I want to get - | 1:09:02 | 1:09:06 | |
the movement and... | 1:09:06 | 1:09:07 | |
..but then I'm going to mess it up, you see. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:12 | |
That's the fun bit. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
Oh, shit. | 1:09:17 | 1:09:18 | |
THEY LAUGH | 1:09:18 | 1:09:21 | |
I don't usually waste quite as much paint as that! | 1:09:21 | 1:09:24 | |
That was fantastic. | 1:09:24 | 1:09:25 | |
Yeah, but it wasn't kind of what I wanted. | 1:09:25 | 1:09:27 | |
And it looks great as well, but I'm going to move back. | 1:09:27 | 1:09:31 | |
-You'd better move back, Matthew. -Yeah. | 1:09:31 | 1:09:33 | |
You better get out of the way, man, | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
because I'm chucking the stuff around. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:37 | |
It's fantastic. | 1:09:37 | 1:09:39 | |
But it's like destroying and creating at the same time. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:45 | |
Yeah. It's amazing how beautiful those veils of colour can be. | 1:09:45 | 1:09:49 | |
Yeah, well, it is, but unfortunately | 1:09:49 | 1:09:51 | |
when it dries out, it doesn't stay like that. | 1:09:51 | 1:09:54 | |
It doesn't... It's not... | 1:09:54 | 1:09:56 | |
HE LAUGHS It's going... | 1:09:58 | 1:10:01 | |
It's going everywhere! | 1:10:01 | 1:10:02 | |
That's quite good, yeah. | 1:10:05 | 1:10:08 | |
Where do you think the precision is in what you do? | 1:10:10 | 1:10:14 | |
Well, it gets more precise. | 1:10:14 | 1:10:16 | |
I'd have to show you the later stages | 1:10:16 | 1:10:20 | |
to show that it gets very, very precise near the end. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:25 | |
It's to do with the drawing, I suppose. | 1:10:26 | 1:10:28 | |
And, to me, drawing is movement | 1:10:28 | 1:10:32 | |
and colour is the most important thing | 1:10:32 | 1:10:36 | |
and trying to get colours working together. | 1:10:36 | 1:10:39 | |
So that they actually combine to make something that, actually, | 1:10:39 | 1:10:45 | |
when you come into the studio, | 1:10:45 | 1:10:48 | |
and you've seen that painting, having had a night's sleep, | 1:10:48 | 1:10:52 | |
and you're coming in again to see it fresh the next morning, | 1:10:52 | 1:10:56 | |
it will actually make a statement back to you, | 1:10:56 | 1:11:00 | |
and then you feel actually this is now a painting. | 1:11:00 | 1:11:03 | |
It's actually telling me something. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
The next artist is the other side of the same coin of freedom | 1:11:12 | 1:11:17 | |
that is controlled in some way. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:19 | |
With Dan Parfitt, I think his rule is to have totally controlled, | 1:11:19 | 1:11:24 | |
calculated stages that result in a look of flowing freedom. | 1:11:24 | 1:11:28 | |
I've got a plan, I like a plan. | 1:11:33 | 1:11:35 | |
The improvisation happens in the drawing. | 1:11:35 | 1:11:39 | |
The previous stages to the one we're looking at right now. | 1:11:39 | 1:11:43 | |
And that's a print out of one of your drawings? | 1:11:43 | 1:11:47 | |
Yeah, here is where it gets scaled up onto a large scale canvas. | 1:11:47 | 1:11:52 | |
So these little drawings are like scores. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:05 | |
The drawings that you work from. | 1:12:06 | 1:12:08 | |
Yeah, well, this little print out is like a score that I'm | 1:12:08 | 1:12:12 | |
performing, like if I were a musician performing. | 1:12:12 | 1:12:15 | |
So it gives me the structure, | 1:12:15 | 1:12:18 | |
but these marks have got to be made in real-time. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:21 | |
It doesn't really matter if there's a bit of... | 1:12:21 | 1:12:27 | |
splashing because we're just going for the... | 1:12:27 | 1:12:30 | |
..trying to make the mark as expressive as possible, | 1:12:33 | 1:12:38 | |
really get a sense of its speed, | 1:12:38 | 1:12:40 | |
its proper real-time quickness. | 1:12:40 | 1:12:43 | |
This is the fastest stage of the whole painting. | 1:12:43 | 1:12:45 | |
This is the fastest stage, maybe the funnest stage as well. | 1:12:45 | 1:12:49 | |
Because out of nothing comes something. Suddenly, there's | 1:12:51 | 1:12:54 | |
a whole bunch of black marks that begin to indicate something. | 1:12:54 | 1:12:58 | |
I mean, even though my work is very non-representational, | 1:12:58 | 1:13:02 | |
nevertheless it should be evocative. | 1:13:02 | 1:13:04 | |
I suggest a sort of natural world without at all depicting | 1:13:04 | 1:13:08 | |
anything in particular. | 1:13:08 | 1:13:10 | |
Well, yes, it does want to feel like part of our natural world. | 1:13:10 | 1:13:14 | |
But maybe an imagined correlation of it. | 1:13:14 | 1:13:19 | |
Somehow. How we pull it inside of ourselves and build little models. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:25 | |
So it's an introvert experience of an extrovert world. | 1:13:25 | 1:13:30 | |
Very good. So things come and go in this process? | 1:13:30 | 1:13:34 | |
They really do, yes. | 1:13:34 | 1:13:35 | |
To begin with there's what looks like an armour chair, | 1:13:35 | 1:13:37 | |
Once that's done, | 1:13:37 | 1:13:39 | |
there will never be anything else like that, it comes and goes. | 1:13:39 | 1:13:41 | |
No, it won't look like this and, in fact, much of this painting | 1:13:41 | 1:13:45 | |
I'm doing right now is redundant or will become redundant. | 1:13:45 | 1:13:49 | |
Much of it will be obscured. | 1:13:49 | 1:13:53 | |
OK, that's enough of that one. | 1:13:53 | 1:13:56 | |
So this has got to dry now? | 1:13:56 | 1:13:57 | |
This has got to dry, yeah, we can't have any drips | 1:13:57 | 1:14:00 | |
-because a drip would indicate gravity. -Yeah. | 1:14:00 | 1:14:02 | |
So really we want this to be floating. | 1:14:02 | 1:14:05 | |
Like all these things, I want them to feel like a bunch of stuff | 1:14:05 | 1:14:09 | |
-thrown up in the air and then you've taken a photograph of it. -I see. | 1:14:09 | 1:14:12 | |
As it just reaches its zenith. | 1:14:12 | 1:14:15 | |
In abstract art, since Jackson Pollock, there is often a sense | 1:14:44 | 1:14:48 | |
that meaning might be as simple as just the way paint is put on. | 1:14:48 | 1:14:52 | |
Paint can be applied any way, sometimes frankly and flatly, | 1:14:53 | 1:14:57 | |
as if the surface didn't mean anything or, which is what | 1:14:57 | 1:15:01 | |
these paintings by Mark Rothko are doing, | 1:15:01 | 1:15:05 | |
so a sort of breathing surface is the main theme, the main | 1:15:05 | 1:15:09 | |
effect by which the painting is able to convey its message. | 1:15:09 | 1:15:13 | |
Rothko was a New Yorker whose family immigrated from Russia | 1:15:32 | 1:15:35 | |
when he was a child. | 1:15:35 | 1:15:37 | |
Until middle-age he was unsuccessful and poor. | 1:15:40 | 1:15:43 | |
He sympathised with the revolutionary, | 1:15:43 | 1:15:46 | |
political movements in the USA in those times. | 1:15:46 | 1:15:49 | |
He lived an isolated existence. He was unstable and so | 1:15:54 | 1:15:58 | |
when success came in the 1950s, its suddenness was overwhelming. | 1:15:58 | 1:16:03 | |
The paintings we were just looking at were done by him | 1:16:05 | 1:16:07 | |
in the late '50s as a commission for the new Seagram building | 1:16:07 | 1:16:12 | |
for the exclusive restaurant on the top floor called the Four Seasons. | 1:16:12 | 1:16:18 | |
But having painted them, he became furious at the idea of | 1:16:18 | 1:16:22 | |
"rich bastards", as he called them, eating in front of his work. | 1:16:22 | 1:16:26 | |
Ten years later he gave the paintings away free to what | 1:16:29 | 1:16:32 | |
was then the Tate Gallery. | 1:16:32 | 1:16:35 | |
He was fanatic about how they should be displayed. The lighting | 1:16:35 | 1:16:38 | |
and spacing, even today, is exactly as Rothko wanted. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:42 | |
By grim coincidence, he died on the day they arrived in Britain. | 1:16:46 | 1:16:51 | |
Rothko committed suicide | 1:16:53 | 1:16:55 | |
and his paintings don't depict anything so it's only natural in | 1:16:55 | 1:16:59 | |
a way that we should wish that death might be what they're communicating. | 1:16:59 | 1:17:05 | |
I don't personally think that. | 1:17:05 | 1:17:08 | |
That's a human tragedy, but the meaning | 1:17:08 | 1:17:12 | |
of the paintings is different to that profound visual lift. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:17 | |
That's the same meaning that a cathedral has, | 1:17:18 | 1:17:22 | |
or the inside of an Egyptian tomb, or a Greek temple. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:25 | |
Death is part of those things as well, | 1:17:25 | 1:17:28 | |
but in such a universal sense that it's as if the marvel | 1:17:28 | 1:17:32 | |
of the whole of existence, not just its termination point, | 1:17:32 | 1:17:36 | |
is being celebrated. | 1:17:36 | 1:17:39 | |
Death as part of some kind of gigantic cosmic unity. | 1:17:39 | 1:17:42 | |
Rather than getting carried away with what's become over the years a | 1:17:44 | 1:17:49 | |
sort of rhetoric of heavy-breathing emotion, let's try instead | 1:17:49 | 1:17:54 | |
to understand what these paintings actually are and how they work. | 1:17:54 | 1:17:59 | |
That sense of a surface that is active | 1:18:08 | 1:18:10 | |
and expressive gets more and more insistent as you look. | 1:18:10 | 1:18:13 | |
The grey is applied lightly like a mist, diffused, | 1:18:16 | 1:18:20 | |
so the surface becomes cloudy not sheer, animated not still or inert. | 1:18:20 | 1:18:26 | |
The painting as a whole is created in terms of misty breakups | 1:18:31 | 1:18:35 | |
and stuttering breakups, | 1:18:35 | 1:18:38 | |
and then passages that are all about merging and flowing. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:41 | |
So if the feeling is, "Well, it's all dark" or "It's all red", | 1:18:47 | 1:18:52 | |
the experience of darkness and redness is a nuanced one. | 1:18:52 | 1:18:57 | |
A simple colour theme of blackish red is elaborated | 1:19:02 | 1:19:07 | |
and celebrated so that the whole of existence is celebrated. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:11 | |
The room is a sort of Pharaoh's tomb. | 1:19:14 | 1:19:17 | |
In his control-freakery he's a megalomaniac like the pharaohs. | 1:19:17 | 1:19:22 | |
He's the pharaoh and the pharaoh decorator in a Rothko | 1:19:22 | 1:19:27 | |
centric-universe. He's the architect, the painter, | 1:19:27 | 1:19:31 | |
and the philosopher priest. | 1:19:31 | 1:19:32 | |
All that pretentiousness would be off-putting | 1:19:36 | 1:19:38 | |
if it weren't for the rule of painterly | 1:19:38 | 1:19:41 | |
transformation that is the true interest of this abstract art. | 1:19:41 | 1:19:45 | |
The quality of surprise in the treatment of a surface | 1:19:45 | 1:19:49 | |
so that looming darkness is alive with energy. | 1:19:49 | 1:19:54 | |
The rule that colours placed next to each other will always | 1:19:57 | 1:20:01 | |
suggest depth, different positions in space, | 1:20:01 | 1:20:04 | |
was exciting to artists like Paul Klee and Mark Rothko, | 1:20:04 | 1:20:08 | |
and has been followed by Albert Irvin, who's now 92, for 50 years. | 1:20:08 | 1:20:13 | |
Put it down in front of those tins. | 1:20:22 | 1:20:24 | |
Yeah, that's it. | 1:20:24 | 1:20:26 | |
And drop it onto its back, too. | 1:20:26 | 1:20:30 | |
OK, and put those under. | 1:20:30 | 1:20:33 | |
Oh, God, it's nice to have somebody helping. | 1:20:33 | 1:20:37 | |
-I'd better come and be your assistant. -It's a real luxury. | 1:20:37 | 1:20:39 | |
They're abstract paintings | 1:20:46 | 1:20:48 | |
but they are informed by my movement through the world. | 1:20:48 | 1:20:53 | |
Those marks seem sort of structural and they have their own life... | 1:20:55 | 1:20:59 | |
-Yes. -..as events. | 1:20:59 | 1:21:01 | |
Structural in terms of the whole unity | 1:21:01 | 1:21:03 | |
and they have their own personality. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
Yes, I'd like to think so. | 1:21:05 | 1:21:11 | |
You know, in so far as painting is a language, I think the brush | 1:21:11 | 1:21:16 | |
marks are the verbs. | 1:21:16 | 1:21:18 | |
Although you can probably analyse that out of extinction | 1:21:19 | 1:21:23 | |
if you wanted to. | 1:21:23 | 1:21:25 | |
No, I think painting as a language is a good idea, | 1:21:25 | 1:21:27 | |
and the brush marks as verbs is a good idea. | 1:21:27 | 1:21:31 | |
There are things behind things, you know? | 1:21:31 | 1:21:35 | |
Like in the space of this studio now, | 1:21:35 | 1:21:38 | |
if I look across the room, | 1:21:38 | 1:21:42 | |
you're standing in front | 1:21:42 | 1:21:45 | |
of the wall, so it's those sorts of perceptions. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:50 | |
I understand completely what you are saying | 1:21:50 | 1:21:53 | |
-but it's as if reality itself is layered. -Yeah. | 1:21:53 | 1:21:56 | |
And that's the kind of thing you are looking for in the painting? | 1:21:56 | 1:22:00 | |
-Yes. -But you're doing it through colour? | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
-Yes. -Through a rather pure colour. | 1:22:02 | 1:22:04 | |
When I first started painting abstract paintings | 1:22:04 | 1:22:08 | |
I usually use very sombre colours. | 1:22:08 | 1:22:10 | |
I had the idea that an important painting | 1:22:10 | 1:22:17 | |
had to be dark, earth colours. | 1:22:17 | 1:22:20 | |
-The horrible thing is washing all these brushes. -I bet. | 1:22:24 | 1:22:27 | |
The visual impressiveness of abstract art from the 1950s | 1:22:37 | 1:22:41 | |
and 1910s is carried on by abstract art now, | 1:22:41 | 1:22:45 | |
but often not with the old sense of abstract purity. | 1:22:45 | 1:22:49 | |
Here's an abstract art that's full of glinting | 1:22:53 | 1:22:56 | |
reflections by the Ghanaian artist El Anatsui. | 1:22:56 | 1:23:01 | |
Unlike artists who work on a flat canvas and create patterns, | 1:23:04 | 1:23:09 | |
the visual complexity of which must be structured into the object, | 1:23:09 | 1:23:14 | |
El Anatsui allows his work to behave like textiles and the shadow | 1:23:14 | 1:23:20 | |
and light created by the drapery creates an additional | 1:23:20 | 1:23:24 | |
focus for what you're looking at and is part of the thought | 1:23:24 | 1:23:28 | |
process involved in the making. | 1:23:28 | 1:23:30 | |
It's a lesson in setting up meaning. | 1:23:40 | 1:23:43 | |
Meaning of a simpler less philosophical kind that the | 1:23:43 | 1:23:46 | |
early abstract artists went in for - he offers a jigsaw of meanings | 1:23:46 | 1:23:51 | |
that are abstract but easily readable. | 1:23:51 | 1:23:54 | |
Its structure imitates a traditional Ghanaian fabric called Kente | 1:23:56 | 1:24:01 | |
cloth, woven for centuries by labour intensive processes so the | 1:24:01 | 1:24:06 | |
visual effect is very rich. Kente cloth is a source of national pride. | 1:24:06 | 1:24:11 | |
If history is in the picture then the history of colonialism | 1:24:17 | 1:24:21 | |
must be in there too with all its human wretchedness. | 1:24:21 | 1:24:25 | |
And the materials El Anatsui uses suggest waste and squalor. | 1:24:25 | 1:24:30 | |
A work of abstract art made of bottleneck wrappers. | 1:24:39 | 1:24:43 | |
The bits of metal foil that go round the neck of a whiskey bottle | 1:24:43 | 1:24:46 | |
or a gin bottle. | 1:24:46 | 1:24:48 | |
Rubbish, really, scavenged from the street. | 1:24:48 | 1:24:51 | |
He makes it look like gold but it's old bits of foil. | 1:24:51 | 1:24:55 | |
It's rubbish that reads as gold. | 1:24:55 | 1:24:58 | |
There's an ambiguity or double meaning. | 1:24:58 | 1:25:01 | |
Baseness that can be transformed into gold, with gold | 1:25:01 | 1:25:05 | |
as the good thing, but also baseness might be indistinguishable | 1:25:05 | 1:25:10 | |
from or interchangeable with gold. | 1:25:10 | 1:25:13 | |
So gold's shimmer, its attractiveness, is untrustworthy. | 1:25:13 | 1:25:18 | |
It always depends where you stand in relation to it as to | 1:25:24 | 1:25:27 | |
whether or not gold DOES shimmer. | 1:25:27 | 1:25:29 | |
So maybe the impression of gold here is a metaphor for delusion? | 1:25:29 | 1:25:35 | |
The pioneer abstract artists 100 years ago thought | 1:25:35 | 1:25:39 | |
abstract values were the path to truth. | 1:25:39 | 1:25:42 | |
They took out any meanings to do with history, society, nationhood. | 1:25:42 | 1:25:47 | |
Those are the meanings El Anatsui built in. | 1:25:47 | 1:25:51 | |
He presents you with a powerful visual blast, | 1:25:52 | 1:25:56 | |
accompanied by questions about what power might mean. | 1:25:56 | 1:25:59 | |
Today all art competes in market | 1:26:12 | 1:26:14 | |
and purely abstract art is relatively rare. | 1:26:14 | 1:26:17 | |
Abstract art that has clues about easily gettable meaning | 1:26:19 | 1:26:23 | |
is preferred. | 1:26:23 | 1:26:24 | |
29 million, 30 million, 31 million. | 1:26:24 | 1:26:28 | |
Abstract art of the past gets huge prices today. | 1:26:28 | 1:26:31 | |
77 million and selling. | 1:26:31 | 1:26:34 | |
That much for a Rothko. | 1:26:34 | 1:26:36 | |
Not because he's subtle about red and black, | 1:26:38 | 1:26:41 | |
but because his high status name is synonymous with fabulous success. | 1:26:41 | 1:26:46 | |
Money is never really the point. | 1:26:50 | 1:26:52 | |
Rothko's predecessor, Hilma Af Klint, said, | 1:26:54 | 1:26:58 | |
"W is material, U is spiritual." | 1:26:58 | 1:27:02 | |
She really did believe what she was doing could alter the world. | 1:27:02 | 1:27:07 | |
If there's a rule of early abstract art as a whole it is that it | 1:27:07 | 1:27:11 | |
was incredibly optimistic. | 1:27:11 | 1:27:13 | |
So the rule of optimism passing on is the rule I'm now going to | 1:27:13 | 1:27:17 | |
sign off with, with a work by an artist who was born the same | 1:27:17 | 1:27:22 | |
year that Hilma Af Klint went up to the spirits in the sky. | 1:27:22 | 1:27:25 | |
Here's a kind of abstract art that's unequivocally visually amazing | 1:27:36 | 1:27:41 | |
but opened ended as to whom that amazement is for | 1:27:41 | 1:27:46 | |
and where it's coming from. | 1:27:46 | 1:27:48 | |
It's partly sinister because it's about wealth and we live in a | 1:27:48 | 1:27:51 | |
time where wealth is sinister and it's partly optimistic because | 1:27:51 | 1:27:56 | |
wealth is referred to by rubbish, old bits of thrown away metal foil. | 1:27:56 | 1:28:02 | |
So wealth's mystic is removed, its intimation is removed, | 1:28:02 | 1:28:07 | |
we can see through it. | 1:28:07 | 1:28:09 | |
But we're still getting the pleasure | 1:28:09 | 1:28:11 | |
and with that pleasure, a sense of a different kind of wealth, | 1:28:11 | 1:28:15 | |
the wealth of ideas as art processes contradictions. | 1:28:15 | 1:28:21 | |
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