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This programme contains strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
To start this film, I'm taking you to where it started for me. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
The venue that I performed my first ever Edinburgh show at, in 2006. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
A venue that, nowadays, is this. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Since then, I've worked my way through the ranks, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
like so many other comedians. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Good evening, Edinburgh! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Many of them feel they owe their careers to Edinburgh. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Whenever I'm near-tah the theatre, I... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Shut up! | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
But the phenomenal rise of comedy | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
is a small part of an extraordinary story. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
This year, the Edinburgh International Festival | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
celebrates its 70th anniversary. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
It was conceived as a way to bring people together | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
and lift their spirits in the aftermath of the Second World War. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Together with the Festival Fringe, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
it has evolved into an eclectic mix of creativity and experimentation, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
and it still feels as innovative and surprising as it did in 1947. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
I was 21. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
It was certainly, I'd say, one of the most important | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
turning points in my career. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
So this fellow who's quite tall, and big blue eyes, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
came along and went, "Hullo," and I said, "Hello." | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
It was Hugh Laurie. And we just instantly hit it off. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-Hello, Hugh. -Hi. -Hi. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
It was everything that I had dreamed of as a child. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
It showed me the bigger picture. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
It showed me the world of entertainment. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
I'd never, never, at 17 years of age, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
had experienced an orchestra. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
But it was the world's top orchestra. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
And there was one night when, you know, nobody came, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
we just had no audience. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
Anyway, somebody came up and said, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
"Would you like to do TV? Your own show?" | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
That's what happened in Edinburgh. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
It was a dizzying dream, and it all happened because of Edinburgh. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
There's no doubt, I don't think. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
OPERATIC SINGING | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
After the war in 1947, the arts were seen as a way to heal the nation, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:14 | |
and this spirit of optimism was going to play out here, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
in the city of Edinburgh. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
These streets, theatres, walls, over the last 70 years, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
have witnessed a miraculous coming together | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
of artists, writers, musicians, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
and that strangest breed of all, comedians, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
in what was a triumph of idealism. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
But, like most young performers flocking up here, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
I never really thought about what lay behind it all, why it exists, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
why it was ever even thought of. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
What was the spirit of 1947? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
BELL CLANGS | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
In that year, some of the world's greatest musicians and actors | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
were making the difficult journey across war-torn Europe | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
to perform at what would be | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
the first ever Edinburgh International Festival. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
If you analyse the history of it, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
it was founded on the basis that the one language | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
which we human beings have, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
which can express our capacity to love - | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
the language of the arts. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
when we have shuffled off this mortal coil. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
-How old is God? -How old is God? God, how old is he? | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Oh, God, how is he? | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
The Festival had been the idea of a remarkable man. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
Rudolf Bing was an Austrian-born Jew who believed that art was the way | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
to return to the light in dark, unsettled times. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
I started working on the first Festival in 1945, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
when the war hadn't quite ended. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
So the challenge was manifold, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
and it comprised getting artists who had never heard of Edinburgh, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
plus getting curtain material for hotel rooms, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
and it was quite a formidable task. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
But he was attempting to do this at a time of hardship, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
and in a city that was known to be very conservative. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
It was just simply beyond one's belief. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
It wasn't in London, it wasn't in Paris, it wasn't in Berlin. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
Er... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
It was in... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
..Edinburgh. We didn't have an opera house. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
We didn't have a gallery of modern art. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
It was a mad idea in 1947. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Britain was still struggling after the war. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
People were grey with exhaustion, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
shops were empty, the food was awful, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
and to travel anywhere outside the UK was nearly impossible. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
Must have been a hard sell for the people of Edinburgh, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
to tell them that they were going to put on a party and invite the world. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
WHISTLE BLASTS | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
TRAIN WHISTLE TOOTS | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Food had to be brought into the city. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Flowers arrived by the truckload. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
A bigger problem was that there was nowhere for anyone to stay, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and the rumour that the Americans expected en-suite bathrooms, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
of which there were none. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
They even thought of chartering a cruise ship to berth in Leith, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
or a permanently parked sleeper train to house people. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
In the end, they just made a plea to the people of Edinburgh | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
to find 10,000 beds, and they did. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Across the city, people opened their homes and enough beds were found. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
Rudolf Bing's dream was becoming real - | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
that this would be a "bond of reunion in a disintegrated world". | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
OPERATIC SINGING | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
After the war, the fact that the arts became so important | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
is a real measure of what a civilised society we are. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
You can't underestimate how much art aids a healing process, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
because it's about communication, it's about... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
..understanding, it's about putting yourself in other people's shoes, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
and nothing does that like art. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
What a wonderful idea to call up on the arts. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
To summon the Muses as the immortals | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
who would be most likely to heal the world | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
after, you know, Ares and the war gods had ruined it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Edinburgh's aim is to be the Salzburg of the post-war world - | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
the new world centre for all art lovers. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
In '47, it must have been pretty startling | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
for people to meet people like themselves, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
with likeminded attitudes, who came from abroad. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
People who had travelled in the early '40s | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
had been travelling to destroy Europe, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
not to meet it on equal terms. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
In 1947, there was a lot going on in people's hearts, and in Parliament. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
You know, the establishment of the National Health Service and... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
..artists at the service of the public. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Even today, the sight of a great orchestra playing at the Usher Hall | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
is pretty impressive. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
In those years, it must have seemed incredible. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
WHISPERING: They're playing Haydn's Surprise Symphony | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
for the opening concert, which they played in 1947. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Ssh. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
ORCHESTRA STARTS | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
In '47, the great conductor Bruno Walter, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
who'd been exiled by the Nazis, was making his way from New York | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
to be reunited with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
for the first time. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
The festival put together what was first | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
of its many bold collaborations. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
They had asked Walter to work with Kathleen Ferrier, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
a young English singer who had sung in munitions factories | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
and military camps during the war, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
becoming as popular with the wider public | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
as she was with the posh opera-goers. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
She was very well known. She was a down-to-earth Lancashire girl. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
She'd started off as a telephonist. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Everyone who'd met her said she was absolutely enchanting | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
and terribly funny and down-to-earth. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
And she could make these very, very simple songs | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
like Blow The Wind Southerly... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
You'd be in floods of tears. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
KATHLEEN FERRIER SINGS | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
Walter was not sure that she could manage Mahler's music... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
until he heard her. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
Bruno Walter just fell in love with her instantly, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
as absolutely everybody did. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
And I think one of the things that's most moving and most significant | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
was the fact that an English singer was suddenly singing in German, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
the language of the enemy, the language of the Nazis, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
the language of hatred. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
And this was a very, very healing moment, I think, for people. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
And that's a very noble thing, I think, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
for an international festival to do. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Even the Royal Family were there, and the reviews were rave. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
"Last night's elegant audience, some in evening dress, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
"a few in kilts and several in arty corduroys, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
"forgot their elegance and applauded for about five minutes | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
"with stamping of feet and cries for more." | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
It was a brilliant success. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
Bruno Walter said that there had been | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
two great influences on his life - Gustav Mahler and Kathleen Ferrier. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
That's the real story of the Edinburgh Festival, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
the meetings of people who couldn't possibly have met anywhere else. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
The Festival was to become a place of drawing together | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
different nationalities, classes and artistic disciplines. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
It would also bring the establishment | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
and the anti-establishment face-to-face. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Even that first year at the Festival, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
those that weren't officially invited | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
took things into their own hands and set up on the outskirts of the city. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
When a critic remarked that it was a pity they were on the FRINGE, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
a whole new phenomenon was born. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Thank you. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
Over the following years, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
these two events would at times battle and compete. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
They would influence each other and bring new audiences, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and fill up every corner of the city. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
# Baby, please come home... # | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
AUDIENCE CLAPS ALONG | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Edinburgh was becoming a magnet for youth, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
a generation emerging from the war, determined to live life to the full | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
and do their own thing. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
And as they flocked here for the arts, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
the setting added to the allure. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
The atmosphere of the city seeps into everything. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Edinburgh is not like the stage set, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
it's more like the lead character in the drama | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
that plays out here every summer. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Edinburgh was a very, kind of... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
It seemed like a faraway... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
..almost fairyland that had a castle, you know. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
But architecturally it is, of course, a dazzling place to spend... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
I mean just dazzling, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
because the division between old and new is so exciting, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
the levels going up and down the Grassmarket | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
and then up through the gardens. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
It was a bit, like, oppressive | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
because there is so much history in these old walls. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
I felt that there was... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
..a lot of old ghosts in the city. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Old spirits that went through difficult, dark times. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
Medieval... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
The castle, the walls, the horror stories of the past. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
This really strange kind of, you know, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
magical kind of city in a way, with all these spires. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
I think anybody who's done at least two Edinburgh festivals | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
will always have a very particular memory of Edinburgh the place. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
It's not incidental to the entire experience, I don't think. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
It's a kind of a metaphor for the city itself. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
There's all these surprising things down little lanes, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and underneath bridges and stuff like that, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and I think that really... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
..helps with the festival, because it's always full... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
There's always more to discover. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
One of the highlights of the festival was Fonteyn. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
The press and the public loved her. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Margot Fonteyn is the Firebird, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
fluttering and caught in the arms of her partner, Michael Somes. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Where ballet had been cool and remote, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
she was intense and full of emotion. Her power to tell a story | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
made ballet more accessible than ever before. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Fonteyn had sort of penetrated the popular consciousness. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
She had a film-star status, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and she was our Margot, she was our ballerina. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
And alongside the International Festival and the Fringe, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
the Film Festival was also growing. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-NEWSREEL: -..Walter Wainger. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
Sir Alexander King welcomes them to the Film Festival. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
The atmosphere of cross-pollination continued as the Film Festival drew | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
more stars, directors and writers, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
adding to the artistic mix that Edinburgh was becoming. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
This is the hour when the autograph-hunters strike. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
So Edinburgh stretches out her hands to you. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Edinburgh invites... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
Cinema newsreels were bringing culture to the masses, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
and the once-distant stars of ballet, opera and theatre | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
were becoming household names. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
This was the beginning of popularising the arts, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and led to the current mad diverse mix | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
that is the Festival today. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
That's the one that grandfather couldn't stand. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Now, anything goes. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Performance once considered high art might be found anywhere, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
even in the girls' toilet. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
WOMEN SING: Flower Duet | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
# Dome epais... # | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Hearing operatic voices in the acoustics of a small space | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
is actually rather amazing. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
Plus it's very handy if you need a wee halfway through. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
# Dome epais | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
# Le jasmin | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
# A la rose s'assemble... # | 0:14:09 | 0:14:16 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
But, in 1957, opera stars were arts royalty, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
and the greatest of them all, Maria Callas, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
was coming to perform at Edinburgh for the first and only time. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
The festival organisers were terrified. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
She was the biggest star on earth, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
and by that time she did have an enormous reputation | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
for violent outbursts. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And I think even by prima donna standards, you know, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
she was very, very defensive, she was a tigress. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
Callas now seemed reluctant to sing | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
all five of her scheduled performances. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
She'd famously become obsessed with film star Audrey Hepburn, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and had transformed herself into a mirror image of the film star | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
by losing several stone. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
It was said this had weakened her voice. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
She was a figure of enormous glamour in the 1950s, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
of sort of the Victoria Beckham level. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Everybody was interested in her every move. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Callas was a huge hit with the festival audience, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
but she walked out on the last night, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
leaving hundreds of disappointed fans. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
And where did she go? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
A party in Venice, where she met a shipping tycoon | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
called Aristotle Onassis. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
The status of opera and its stars, and the expense of staging it, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
would be a challenge to the festival over the years. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
But the Fringe would bring new approaches to the genre | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
that made it more accessible. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
One of the most genre-busting was a show that combined operatic voices | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
and TV's filthiest chat show. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
# Jerry, Jerry... # | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
# Put your fucking clothes on, you stupid bitch | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
# Don't you touch me | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
# Put your fucking clothes on, you stupid bitch | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
# Or I'll kill you in your sleep | 0:16:03 | 0:16:04 | |
# Put your fucking clothes on, you stupid bitch | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
# Cocksucker! Talk to the ass... # | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
The Fringe was, as ever, a place to take big chances. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
And the first preview, we had 80 people. I mean, and that's... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
That is a small amount of people in a room that size. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
And I could just hear these two in front of me going, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
"Eh, it's a good idea, didn't quite do it, what a waste of an idea." | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
And you know... "Oh!" But then the day after - packed out, 750. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
And that day was amazing. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
# I've been seeing... # | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Jerry Springer: The Opera transferred to | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
London's National Theatre, as high-status as it gets. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
# ..someone else | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
# What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fucking, fucking fuck?! # | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Now opera could be about anything, and performed anywhere. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
I think you can chart the course of Edinburgh from... | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
from this Arts Festival, which was Arts with a capital A - | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
of ballet and classical music and Shakespeare | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
and other such theatre, which still exists and is still there - | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
and it's little under-things, Fringe. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
This little Fringe of demotic, you know, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
the people's arts of slightly more vulgar... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
..so-called "low" as opposed to high art, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
and you could watch how that just takes over. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
And low art becomes the main artistic discourse of the nation | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
in the way that pop music has overtaken classical music, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
or jazz even. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
CLOCK CHIMES | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
The Government was aware that the arts had a new importance, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
reminding people what they'd fought the war for - | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
the idea of civilisation. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
The Old Vic had toured Welsh mining villages with this in mind, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
but no-one yet had quite worked out how to appeal to working people | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
or the youth. But now young actors began pouring into Edinburgh | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
as a place to explore new ideas. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Edinburgh was a magnet. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
It was saying, "Come to us, come to us," | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
because the English theatre was tremendously hidebound, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
and so Edinburgh was opening things up. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
When the opportunity came to start a play in Edinburgh, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
all of us thought, "How wonderful! | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
"How courageous of Edinburgh to do this so soon after the war." | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
I was 20, and I was about to play Juliet at the Assembly Rooms. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
And then I met a whole wonderful circle of poets, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and a circle of young men. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
I just thought, "This is the kind of milieu that I want to be in." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
Pardon me, but, er... have you a flyswatter? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
I beg your pardon? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
The following year, Claire arrived back as a hot ticket | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
from starring in Charlie Chaplin's Limelight, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
and now she was on the arm of the most sizzling male star of 1953. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The Classics were extremely unpopular. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
So getting a young rising superstar | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
to front an entire season, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
and with Claire Bloom, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
who'd just been in Limelight for Charlie Chaplin as, you know... | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
was a genuine coup. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
And it did bring all kinds of people into that theatre | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
that would never have come. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
-NEWSREEL: -This is the hour when the autograph-hunters strike, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
and I don't think Richard Burton and Claire Bloom will escape. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Ah, not the first time it's happened to them, evidently. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
They're on their way to play in Hamlet at the Assembly Hall. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
He was probably the last actor to be a genuine theatre star, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
where people queued up all the way around the Old Vic. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
He'd never been on television or in the movies at all, Burton. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
He was he was a star because of his theatre acting. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
To be or not to be, that is the question. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
and by opposing...end them? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
To die... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
My image of Richard Burton | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
is standing in front of me with Claire Bloom. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
He was 24, she was 21. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
They obviously were attracted to each other. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
He was very wonderful. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
I'd known Richard Burton for a long time. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Boy from Wales. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
And, erm... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
we were friends. Great friends. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Richard used to read to me wonderful poetry. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
They were very heady days for all of us. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
They were young, gorgeous, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
and had a more natural and relaxed acting style. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
There was the last vestiges of the grand manner. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
So the man was playing Claudius was still... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
"O let no noble eye profane a tear for me." | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
There's the rub, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
for in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
when we have shuffled off this mortal coil. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Burton was a different matter because he was Welsh. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
His first language had not been English anyway - | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
till he was seven or eight he didn't even speak it. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
And he had a completely different delivery to everybody else. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
So he had this wonderful voice. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
He had this wonderful appearance. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
His "mmmmm". | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
And he was... I learned very quickly... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
..the sex did it because the gods were absolutely jammed with girls. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
This was made even more exciting by the so-called thrust stage | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
which brought Burton right into the midst of the audience. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
This hall was the HQ for the Church of Scotland | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
and designed for their meetings. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Because the city had so few theatres, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
it had been requisitioned by the festival | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and its very particular shape was now creating a new form of staging. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Theatre in the round. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
But I love the idea of being close to the audience and, yes, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
I think it added to the excitement of that production | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
that we were all so... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
close to the audience. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
You could see modern theatre groping its way to become something | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
with these new people | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
and that's the sort of thing I think that was the seed | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
that led to the classics becoming as popular as they... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
You know, you can do any classic now. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
But this was the beginning of groping towards modernity, I think. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
AS RICHARD BURTON: To be or not to be. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
You want to go quite deep and only quite subtly Welsh. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
To sleep perchance to dream. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Points for effort. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
# La, la-la-la-la | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
# La-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la... # | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Now Shakespeare's done everywhere and in so many inventive ways. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
At this festival alone, you can have breakfast with Shakespeare, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
death by Shakespeare, or even go and see Shit-Faced Shakespeare, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
where one of the cast performs entirely shit-faced each night. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
I like the sound of that one. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
But if modernity was creeping into Edinburgh in the early '60s, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
it was still the old favourites that were getting top billing. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
# You could do such a lot with a wompom | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
# You can use every part of it too... # | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
CEILIDH MUSIC PLAYS | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
-Let me hear you yeehaw! -ALL: -Yeehaw! | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
They say that the '60s only really arrived halfway through the decade, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
with traditional country dancing a popular favourite, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
along with Flanders and Swann singing The Wompom song. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
But all of that was about to change, as the hippy era drifted in. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
It was a great divide. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
As polite Edinburgh society chuckled over comic songs, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
the young were plotting to blow things apart | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
with the new avant-garde. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
The happening is somewhere between... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
theatre, performing arts, and, if you like, visual arts. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
It's, er... At its best, it's quite thrilling. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
During a long and fairly solemn speech by, I think, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
a Czechoslovakian novelist, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
a young woman, a naked young woman, was wheeled across the gallery | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
and it created a massive uproar and this was the event of the festival, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
the great happening. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
I stood on the trolley with my bottom to the audience. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
And they... The audience were just looking in stunned silence, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
You know? What's Edinburgh come to now? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Dear God, look at her bum. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
And that was called the happening. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
A happening being something that has no sense, no refuge, no, erm... | 0:24:28 | 0:24:35 | |
history. It's just something that happens and that's... | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
that's what was explained to me. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
At the time, I was... | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
How old was I? I was 20 and I just thought it was a miraculous event | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
that a, erm, rather lovely nude woman could be seen in public. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:56 | |
And when I came off, it... | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
..it was like the place had blown up. People were just... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Couldn't believe it. They were sort of, erm... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I had a red plastic coat and I do remember several people saying, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
"She's over there. She's over there." | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
And it was almost like being... | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
..an animal trapped and I don't remember very clearly... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
Well, I don't remember at all the business of being arrested. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:28 | |
Anna Kesselaar was an 18-year-old single mother | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
whose parents had both died. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
She had no idea of the anger and outrage | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
that her appearance would provoke. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Edinburgh itself was contained and difficult and unforgiving. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:46 | |
It was a savage place to live in, to be honest, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
if you were on the wrong side of it. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
I do remember this awful man coming to... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
"Give me the baby, give me the baby." | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
You know, really, really... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
I was not going to part with my baby. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Anna Kesselaar was acquitted at trial | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
and retained custody of her child. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
But what was known as the Lady MacChatterley trial | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
divided Edinburgh society. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
This was the moment when the Edinburgh Festival | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
could have been non-acceptable. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
But it did test the idea of the Edinburgh Festival | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
to the breaking point. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
I must have been to about 30 festivals for my sins. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
I first went in 1967 and you can see in front of me | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
a pile of all the programmes... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Extracts from all the programmes from everything. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
The festival in those days was very, very different, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
in the '60s and early '70s, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
because there was very, very little Fringe. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
It hardly impinged at all. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
And when you walked down Princes Street, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
all the shop windows had photographs in them | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
of the great classical stars. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
It was all quite dignified and quite genteel. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
But in the back rooms and dusty church halls, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
the Fringe was quietly growing and growing. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
The festival has been defined by the geography of the city. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
The grand old buildings of the official festival at its heart, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and then these winding alleyways. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
A maze leading to hundreds of small rooms, halls, churches, and, yes, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
even toilets, that each year people will move their productions into. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
From here, young people were taking up the mission | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
to shock and challenge. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
It made Edinburgh the place to discover the new. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And everyone is still out in search of it today. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
A container wedged into a small bit of available ground | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
is one of hundreds of small events that might deliver the unexpected. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
-Beloved. -BELL RINGS | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Join with us and move among us. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
-ALL: -Join with us. Join with us. Join with us. Join with us. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
CREAKING | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-Join with us. -CREAKING | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
And it all began back in the '60s, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
where Edinburgh had become a focus for the avant-garde | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
and experimental, which was spilling out all over the city. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
This was at the time when the Fringe was threatening to steal the thunder | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
of the main festival. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
Pop culture was on the rise all over Britain | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
and the International Festival decided to fight back. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
They did this by putting together a group of comedians | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
that were funnier, bolder, riskier | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
than anything the Fringe was producing. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
They called them Beyond The Fringe. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
The festival director pulled together some Oxbridge talent. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
Jonathan Miller was working as a doctor | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
and took two weeks off to perform at the festival. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
He suggested Peter Cook, another recent graduate. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
And they were joined by Alan Bennett | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
and a jazz musician called Dudley Moore. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
And now, Dudley Moore continues his recital | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
with a setting by Kurt Weill of the ballad of Gangster Joe | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
by Bertolt Brecht. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
HE SINGS IN MIMICKED GERMAN | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
# Oh... # | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
The group aimed their humour at the last bastions of the establishment - | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
the army, the church, and even the royal family. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
It was one of those iconic moments in comedy history. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
There is no royal personage actually gracing the Royal box. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
Unless, of course, they're crouching. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
It's hard to imagine now just how much this changed the rules. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
It wasn't just changing what we could laugh at, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
but it was the end of doffing your cap to authority | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
and the beginning of our modern age. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
As the great critic of the time, Ken Tynan, said, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
"English comedy had taken its first decisive step | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
"into the second half of the 20th century." | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
-Perkins? -Sir. -I want you to lay down your life. -Yes, sir. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
We need a futile gesture at this stage. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
It will raise the whole turn of the war. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
-Get up in a crate, Perkins. -Yes, sir. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
-Pop over to Bremen. -Yes, sir. -Take a shufti. -Sir. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
-Don't come back. -Right you are. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
Goodbye, Perkins. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
-God, I wish I was going, too. -Goodbye, sir. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Or is it au revoir? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
No, Perkins. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
Beyond The Fringe had killed a lot of sacred cows | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and that had happened, well, I think, three years before, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
so that was perhaps the great seminal sort of comedy production. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:08 | |
The shock had worn off by the time we did our Edinburgh revue, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
which is why I think we concentrated on doing slightly more silly, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
surreal stuff to make people laugh. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
MUSIC: The Liberty Bell | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
We stayed in the Masonic Lodge in Johnston Terrace. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
We were boys all on one floor, girls on the top floor | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
and some strange winking eye in the ceiling, looking down | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and odd suits of Masonic gear in glass cases in the hallway, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
and us writing comedy material. It seemed perfect. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
So, Michael Palin stayed in this room in a sleeping bag on the floor. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
The Edinburgh Festival was a meeting point for various of the Pythons. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
John Cleese and Graham Chapman had toured | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
and had success at the festival. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
And now Eric Idle, Terry Jones and Michael Palin were in town, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
learning to be comedians. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
I wish to register a complaint. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
At the time... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
satire was the big thing, That Was The Week That Was. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
And yet, certainly Terry and myself | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
were looking more for the sort of surreal, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I suppose what would become Python, really. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
Not depending entirely on the week's news or the day's news, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
but on strange characters and strange contrast | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
and people coming together to do odd things. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
So there was a great deal of freedom at that Edinburgh Festival and | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
we did develop, I think, as writers, probably more than performers. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
This was the point when TV star-maker | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
David Frost was on the prowl | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
and the start of the festival as a real hunting ground | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
for future TV talent. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
I realised suddenly that everything leading up to this | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
had been sort of schoolboy mucking around, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
undergraduate mucking around, but here, suddenly, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
there was a chance that someone might sort of see me and give me | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
a job later on. I could do what I always wanted to do, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
my father would never let me, which was become an actor, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
and to do comedy. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
# You're | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
# The cream | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
-# In my coffee -APPLAUSE | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
# You're the salt in my stew... # | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Edinburgh closed at 10pm. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
Most people were in bed with their Ovaltine, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
but the festival decided to try out a late-night slot. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Their mission was to challenge the status quo | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
and remain truly international. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
And to bring in somebody like Dietrich | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
was like suddenly, you know, parachuting in, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I don't know, the Foo Fighters or something into the programme. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
And I think people, especially in Edinburgh, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
were very, very shocked by it, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
because she had quite a reputation, Dietrich. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
A crowd waits at the Turnhouse Airport to welcome Marlene Dietrich. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
I loved Edinburgh. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I want to say this again and again and again. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
I loved Edinburgh. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Dietrich had obviously a very special reputation... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
to come back to Europe after the war, she had, you know, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
left Germany behind and sung for the American soldiers in the war. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
# Where have all the flowers gone? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
# Long time passing... # | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
And to the Germans, she was a traitor | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
and to the Europeans and the Allies, obviously, she was a hero. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
It must have been wonderful for her to be at this festival | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
and to be, you know, telling her story to the British. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
# Where have all the soldiers gone? # | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
She sent out a big message, anti-war. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
# Every one! When... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
# Will they ever learn? # | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Dietrich's version is so raw and edgy | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
and full of pain and melancholy and remorse. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
I mean, it's remarkable from that point of view | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
and quite indelible. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
She certainly had an aura about her. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I think her biggest achievement was her androgynous way | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
of messing with the image of a woman. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
And so she put the suit on, she had a masculinity | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
and a courage about herself that was ground-breaking at the time. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
You know, she wasn't entirely respectable | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
and also the fact that it was a late-night show, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
in a city that basically closed down entirely at ten o'clock. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
The festival was also challenging the sexual politics of the time. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
Gallop a-pace, bright Phoebus, through the sky | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
and dusky night in rusty iron car, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
between you both shorten the time, I pray, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
that I may see that much desired day, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
when we shall meet these rebels in the field. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
SHOUTING | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
We were not altogether welcome. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Because Edward II is, I think, the first play ever written | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
in the English language about... with a gay character at its centre. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
Of course, Ed was rather despised in Scotland because he was the man | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
who Robert the Bruce beat at the Battle of Bannockburn. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
But that was not the theme that was offensive to the Church of Scotland. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
But the fact that two men in the process of telling the story kissed, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
showed their affection for each other, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
this was against the law. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
There was a councillor, John Kidd I think was his name, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
who reported the production to the local watch committee... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
..on the grounds that it was offensive, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
not just in the church premises but anywhere. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
And it was decided by the watch committee and a few policemen, | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
I remember, arrived in their uniforms, sat in the front row. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
They showed no objection to it all and we continued and just guaranteed | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
there wasn't a single ticket to be had and... | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
..that could be another feather in Edinburgh Festival's cap. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
In 1968, as festival-goers sat listening to | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Benjamin Britten's War Requiem, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
the Soviet-led troops rolled into Czechoslovakia. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
Nearby, the Citizens Theatre Company was performing | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
The Resistible Rise Of Arturo Ui by Bertolt Brecht. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
I was in the production of Arturo Ui and we performed in Edinburgh | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
at the time of the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
The theme of Ui is "I'm here to protect you from force and violence | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
"with force and violence if necessary", | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
and there was a line spoken by a Russian soldier from his tank, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
saying, "We're here to protect you." | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
And it was decided to put that on at the end of our production. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
It was going on like on a ticker tape. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
There's always been a sense that Edinburgh represents | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
a chance to really open up with comparatively few holds barred | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
on the big issues of the time. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
The invasion of Czechoslovakia also happened as | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
the Soviet State Orchestra played to the Festival, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
provoking angry criticism. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
But the Festival's original mission of 1947 was to use the arts | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
to set aside differences, and they continued to invite performers, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
even if defying public opinion. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
These visits to the West allowed crucial new relationships - | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Shostakovich and Benjamin Britten became close friends | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and influenced each other's work. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
And there were also dissident artists | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
not able to make these official visits. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Ricky Demarco made over 15 trips behind the Iron Curtain | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
to bring artists to Edinburgh | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
whose work we would otherwise not have seen. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
The Cold War was a reality and | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
Europe was suffering from the obscenity of it, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
the nonsense of it. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
I just felt compelled to care. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
It was a prison. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
The Edinburgh Festival was very important because it allowed them | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
to be welcome here. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
They brought with them highly experimental avant-garde work, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
much of which was performed at the Traverse, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
which has been called Britain's first-ever fringe theatre. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I think it's undeniable that the Festival did show us things | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
we otherwise would not have seen. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
The thing that touches me about that era in the '70s | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
was our belief in theatre. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
This is Dead Class, performed by a Polish theatre company | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
led by Tadeusz Kantor. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
One of the most exciting shows ever seen on the Fringe. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
The Polish theatre that occurred... that was brought over in '76, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
it was so stylised, they were like automata. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
And being automata was part of the point they were making, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
and you really had to just not decide you knew what was going on. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
You had to agree to be mystified. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
THEY CHANT IN POLISH | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
And they put us through it. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
You know, we'd sit there in the audience | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
while they ran around and spat at us. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
And I would say, "Why don't we spit back?" | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
And this was as avant-garde as it got. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
And you went in and you had to take most of your clothes off | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
and put them in a box. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
And about halfway through this performance, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
which was conducted in Polish and was complete gibberish, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
they wheeled in this sort of chicken coop | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
in which a naked lady was sitting, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
and she was sort of making chicken noises. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
And then they opened the door of the chicken coop | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
and I was pushed into the chicken coop with this lady, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
who asked me in very heavily-accented English | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
whether I wanted to make love to her. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
And I said, in my best schoolboy, prim way, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
"No, I don't think so." | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
As the Fringe spread out its tendrils across the city, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
more and more space opened up. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Last year, this was just basement storage. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Now it's been transformed into Guantanamo Bay, the holiday camp. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
Hello, welcome, come on in. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Find yourselves a lovely deck chair to sit in. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Make yourselves comfortable. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
And as you're doing so, put your bags down, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
take a moment to take off your shoes and socks. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
You have your own private beach to enjoy, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
so get your toes into the sand, wiggle them around. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Do you believe it? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
Immersive experiences are now just part of the theatre landscape. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Being sat with your feet in the sand, cocktail in hand, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
being exposed to enhanced interrogation techniques. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
VOICEOVER: Edinburgh is now established as the place where | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
difficult political issues can be tackled in experimental ways. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
It doesn't seem odd at all to be sat in a basement | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
at 1.30 in the afternoon, playing an interactive game show | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
in which one of the cast members gets water boarded. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
One more drink! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:43 | |
So if you could please pour an entire bottle down | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
into the funnel into the jerry can. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
This year is apparently one of the most political Fringes ever, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
with a huge number of powerful and provocative productions | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
going on all over town. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
MAN SPLUTTERS AND GASPS | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Got to feel for this guy. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
And for the production that are in this venue next. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
-NEWSREADER: -6,000 Upper Clyde shipbuilding employees | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
are threatened with redundancy and... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
Back in the '70s, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
the issue of the day was the Clyde shipyard closures. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
It was all about political theatre, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:20 | |
but how did you get the working man to turn up? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
A group of young actors and musicians decided to form a co-op, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
as you did in the 1970s. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
They staged a parody of the Upper Clyde shipyard work-in. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
It was set in an old welly-boot factory | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
and staged here by the old covered market. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
It did two things that the Festival was hoping to achieve - | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
enticing a new audience to the theatre | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
and introducing a comic genius. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
# If it wasnae for your wellies where would you be? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
# You'd be in the hospital or infirmary... # | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
They're legendary now. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
Because the Waverley Market, it had a glass roof, and for some reason | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
we had to put the time earlier, and then nobody realised or noticed | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
in September, seven o'clock, it's still very light, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
so simple lighting effects were just hopeless. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
So, Billy looked up and he said, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:15 | |
"Well, I'll just go on until it gets dark." | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
We watched that with our mouths open. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
We watched possibly, I think, maybe the funniest stand-up I had seen. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
And comedy at the Fringe was getting a more political message. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
And I wear finger picks, do you see that? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
Do you know why that is? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
It's because I used to work in the shipyards. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
Really. And the reason I wear finger picks is because of the shipyards | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
was these wee timekeepers, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
and they used to come clattering along | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
with the sandwiches flying into the air, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
trying to get in in time. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
Imagine running into a shipyard, you know? | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
Trying to get in. My God! | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
And he'd wait till you were three yards from it and go... | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
"Chhh!" | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
Argh! | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
It's time we had shows for ordinary punters in Edinburgh | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
to come and see. And then they charged us 1,800 quid for the... | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
It's an annual cry here, "Let's get the working class in." | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
They talk about them as if they were gnus or giraffes or something. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
And they did get people in. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
By using comedy in entertainment, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
the Fringe was creating political theatre for everyone. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
The London headlines. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
The fact that the Edinburgh Festival gave spaces for young people | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
to be involved in this big explosion of artistic endeavour | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
was huge. Really important. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
And cut through a lot of the snobbery and pomposity | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
surrounding theatre. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Because theatre in its earliest forms wasn't for the rich. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
It was for everybody, especially for the poor, you know. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
Storytelling in societies where most people were illiterate, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:57 | |
storytelling became the way that they learned about themselves | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
and their past, and that was performance. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
But class was becoming an issue. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
Not just an issue, but a theme for the next generation of comedians. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
I do think that if you look at the composition of a theatre company, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
you will find the answer. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
We have with us the creme de la creme, I think, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
of the various university acting groups in Cambridge - | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
the Marlowe Society, the Footlights, well-known in their own right. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
# I once loved a rhinoceros | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
# Preposterous as that may sound | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
# Sweet little, neat little noceros | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
# All the joy of the love we've found... # | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
But this was about to change | 0:46:37 | 0:46:38 | |
and Edinburgh was about to see a new tide sweeping in. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
Some time before we went to Edinburgh, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
the BBC showed a programme called Boom Boom.... Out Go The Lights. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
And it was an astonishing... | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
..revelation, an expose of this new form of comedy. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Don't wind me up, John, all right? | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
Yeah. Legs do break, my son, they do break. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Basically, people were saying what punk did three or four years ago | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
to glam rock and disco, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
this comedy is doing to variety and typical comedy. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
It's the new, young explosion. It's irreverent, it's... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
What are you, theatre? | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Whenever I'm near-tah the theatre, I... | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
Shut up! | 0:47:27 | 0:47:28 | |
And Hugh and I in my rooms at Queen's, my college in Cambridge, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
I had a television and we were looking at it and we were thinking, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
"Well, it's just all over. We are from another era." | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
We're sketch comedy. You know, we are... | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
HE KNOCKS | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
"Ah, Perkins, come in. Sit down." | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
You know, I mean, it's just, really, so dated. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
It goes back to Peter Cook and Dudley Moore and before that | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
to Jonathan Miller. And it's, you know... | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
bits of Pythons, obviously. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
But it's all basically, "Ah, Perkins, come in." | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Or, "Hello, I'd like to buy something completely ridiculous, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
"please, that you won't obviously have in this shop." | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
Last week, if you remember, we were concentrating largely on the body. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
Well, tonight, it's the turn of the voice | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
and we'll be doing some vocal work. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
Well, here's our space. Where's our actor? | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
Well, we're very lucky to have with us in the studio this evening Hugh. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
-Hello, Hugh. -Hi. -Hi. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:22 | |
We were students, we didn't know what we were going to do. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
None of us had a job lined up. Only Emma Thompson had an agent. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Hugh always claimed he wanted to go into the Hong Kong police force | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
because he had read they were corrupt and he fancied himself | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
as some sort of a Serpico figure. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
I think he just fancied the idea of himself in ironed white shorts. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
But I thought I'd go into teaching. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
The show won the Perrier Award | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
and offers for television and film soon followed. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
It was a dizzying dream and it all happened because of Edinburgh. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
There's no doubt, I don't think. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
Oh, I hated all them Oxbridge people. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Despised, loathed. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
Couldn't stand them. Wanted them to be, you know, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
eradicated from the face of the earth. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
Going into the Fringe Club bar, which was the place everybody went | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
during the day and after shows in the evening... | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
-HE MUMBLES: -And you were just like this, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:21 | |
talked like this all the time, just in case anybody heard me | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
and would go, "Oh! Oh! I bet you're at Cambridge, aren't you?" | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
I'd go, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be at Cambridge! | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
"It's not my fault. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
I was angry with the audience for making me perform in front of them. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
I was angry with, you know... | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
..the left for being so shit. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
I was angry with the right for being so evil. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
I was angry with people for buying Habitat furniture. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
I was in the Cambridge Footlights and there was a real backlash | 0:49:50 | 0:49:55 | |
against Oxbridge comedy. And in all honesty, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
this is probably the first time I've ever mentioned that I did that | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
professionally because it was a massive negative. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:05 | |
I remember that there was... | 0:50:05 | 0:50:06 | |
I think The Oxford Revue one year, all the alternative comics | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
just turned up just to heckle them offstage. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
The fact, I bombed on the first night | 0:50:12 | 0:50:13 | |
is so painful, especially when you're, you know, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
you're young and you're ambitious. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
And... | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
So just kind of impelled by that, I took the whole act and I was just | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
so angry that I kind of blew it apart, really. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
A one, two, a one, two, three, four... | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
Hello, John. Got a new motor? | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
And I just started swearing kind of at random, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
and that's really the night that my performance style | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
finally kind of achieved its apotheosis. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
I was a hit then. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
A new act had hit town - stand-up alternative comedy. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
What started out as a couple of comedians became an explosion | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
that would transform Edinburgh over the coming decades. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
I'd just done Girls On Top and they had, you know, a time-out tent. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
And they wanted me to talk about Girls On Top but it was two o'clock | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
in the morning and Michael Grade and I were still not on. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
So now at about one o'clock they had a Zulu band. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
I mean, a full, full... | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
And everybody's on their chairs doing Zulu and then these two people | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
are supposed to go out after that to follow that act. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
So Michael and I got drunk underneath the tent. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
We were just drinking from the bottle | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
and by the time I was called out I said, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
"I would like to introduce my next guest, Michael Grade." | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
He comes out... Michael Grade ran Channel 4. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
I do not remember what I did with Michael Grade | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
but that night I got a 12-show series. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
To this day I do not... People go, "You and Michael Grade!" | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
and I go, "Yeah..." I don't know what we did. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
I think it was something about wearing a horse's head | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
but I can go no further. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
One major impact the Festival was having on British culture | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
was forcing comedians to create a new show every year. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
Anyone go running? Exactly. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
Why would you go running if you're not being chased? | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
I think the Edinburgh Fringe is the thing that has most led to a culture | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
where comedians in this country turn over new shows year on year. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:16 | |
I think it drives them. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
How that goes in August in Edinburgh | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
sets the tone for the next two years of my life. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
I'm going to start by moving the microphone stand because you won't | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
be able to see me otherwise, will you? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
All the comics that have "made it" that I know of | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
have all done shows in Edinburgh. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
I always pictured that Marc Almond, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:38 | |
he didn't have much money so he got his dad to play keyboards. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
The pressure to create new material, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
and with a show that is an hour long with a beginning, middle and end, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
has played a huge part in making Britain | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
this incredibly fertile place for new writing. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
Starsky And Hutch is my favourite show. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
Then they re-run in last year. Turns out, pile of old cack. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
KEYBOARD PLAYS | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
Edinburgh is a great place to reinvent yourself because | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
the whole industry's there and you're laying your stall out, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
saying, "This is what I've got this year." | 0:53:05 | 0:53:06 | |
I don't want to show off but I'm actually quite charitable. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
Yes. A couple of years ago I actually bought one of those | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
anti-bullying charity wristbands. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
I say bought - I stole it off a fat ginger kid. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
Risky joke to do in Scotland, that one. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
VOICEOVER: This guy's never going to make it. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
It produced Stephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Clive Anderson, Griff Rhys Jones, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
Sacha Baron Cohen, David Mitchell. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
There's just been an extraordinary wealth of people from there. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
And then when you look at the stand-up circuit, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
literally the great names have nearly all been there at some point. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:44 | |
It's definitely a teething ground for the world's entertainment | 0:53:44 | 0:53:50 | |
and without it, your TV screens would be a lot poorer. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
Some people see comedy as a monster, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
swallowing up the rest of the Fringe, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
but it does seem to have brought more and more people here each year | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
desperate to experience something new. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
The festival continues to support hundreds of new acts | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
and even new genres. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
I feel like I'm being followed. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
Of course, now it seems so professional - | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
television and the internet, and the stakes are so high for fame, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:29 | |
but that's one corner of it. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
If you actually visit it and you talk to families of young people | 0:54:31 | 0:54:37 | |
who are going up to Edinburgh this year, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
they're not going there in order to try and get spotted for Channel 4 | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
or something, they have this show they want to do and it is... | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
It's done in a bright hope of entertaining, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:53 | |
alarming, beguiling, seducing, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
delighting, shocking, all the things that art can do. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
The most exciting time was going up there as a complete unknown | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
with four other unknowns and a little team putting on this show | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
which really, really caught people's imagination. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
# Edinburgh Festival | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
# It's the one that's best of all | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
# If you're an actor rest and call your agent... # | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
And Scotland was also producing its own big hits, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
and the locals were now pouring in. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
The festival's early aims at getting a broader audience into theatres | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
had been achieved. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
The festival has a certain... | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
..function for Scottish people as well. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
It's this thing where our country is... | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
The spotlight is on it, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
of the world. And it's this month where we... | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
The city may be a bit different to how we know it | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
for the rest of the time, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
but it's definitely this place where all eyes are on us and | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
the welcome we give, the landscape that we present to people is very, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
very important to how Scotland in general is seen. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
The National Theatre Of Scotland's Black Watch, about their own | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
Scottish regiment in the Iraq War, seemed to pull together | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
everything the Festival had been aiming towards since the War. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
It didn't really seem like a big fucking deal at the time, eh? | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
BANGING | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
The energy, the humour, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
the political fierceness and theatre that was genuinely for the people. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
..Uniform 3362. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
P4. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
Mother Alpha 5502... | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
What began as paternal at a time when the government | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
felt like they knew what was good for the nation | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
has developed into something incredibly diverse | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
that offers us almost anything we can think of. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
I think what's better now is there's this sense that | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
it's a huge bran tub, Edinburgh. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
For a whole month you can just put your hand in | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
and pull out anything you like. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
And people take chances on things in a very good way. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
I think they're less selective about what they go and hear. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
Even in 1947, there were people who came uninvited to create | 0:57:05 | 0:57:11 | |
the first Festival because that's what moves art on. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
It's people who go against the status quo | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
and want to explore human thought, human ideas, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
human emotion, and that's what creates this iceberg | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
that's constantly moving, and I feel that the festival is that. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:32 | |
When you remember the festival was started to kind of... | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
..give people some cultural | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
sense of community and celebration after the Second World War... | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
..it serves that purpose every year and it brings people... | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
I think the most important thing, it certainly did for me, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
it exposed me to so many people and things from different cultures. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:58 | |
You know, a kind of smorgasbord, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
an intense smorgasbord of difference. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
I think... Do you know? | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
One of the things that Brits are shocking at | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
is whenever we have a huge success, we downplay it. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
You go anywhere in the world, the Edinburgh Festival has... | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
Just everybody's in awe of it. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
And it has... | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
Incalculable artistic riches have come out of it. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
I mean, one of the reasons why Britain punches above its weight | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
on the global screen and TV stage is because of Edinburgh. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:34 | |
I don't think people realise what a treasure they have here. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 |