Nina Conti's Edinburgh Festival 2017


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Every August, the Edinburgh Festival

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attracts performers from around the globe.

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There's comedy...art...

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theatre...dance...

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music...and monkeys.

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I'm here to perform my show

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and to see as much of the festival as I can.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage Nina Conti!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Hi!

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Hello, everybody. Welcome. Thank you for coming.

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-You OK?

-Yep.

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Can I...? No, forget it, I'll never get them on again.

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NINA LAUGHS

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What shall I do with my glasses now?

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-Whatever you like.

-I'll just...nah, hold on to them.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-OK, Lorna.

-OK.

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Why are you doing this to me?

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I've been coming to this festival all my working life.

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I want to die, Nina.

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It's a really important place

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to learn your craft as a comedian

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and have your mini breakdowns and...

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..win your awards, if you're someone else.

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But...70 years ago, when this festival began,

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comedy as we now know it didn't even exist.

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Sounds like a halcyon time.

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But now, it's everywhere,

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and you can't walk down any road in Edinburgh

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without seeing thousands of comedy posters.

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Comedians looking quirky and covered in stars.

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But how is it developing as an art form?

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-I don't think it is.

-I mean, it is hugely.

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It's using theatre and performance art and storytelling now.

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You're just talking it up, Nina.

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I think it's all narcissism.

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We're going to have to disagree.

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Can't we go to Hawaii one year?

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One of my favourite comics, Sarah Kendall,

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is challenging what can be expected from stand-up

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by crafting a deeply personal family story into her show.

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Do you think there's too much comedy at the Fringe?

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I think most people see comedy as being the most accessible form of...

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-theatre, like, the most populist form.

-Yeah.

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So I would say that there would be more people sort of looking to

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the comedy guide, possibly, for that reason.

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I think that the way comedy is at the Fringe for the month of August

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is not the way comedy is for the rest of the year,

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and I think that...this, the Fringe allows it to be something else

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and allows comedy to start pushing those boundaries

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and bleed into different genres and...

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I think people don't have that same sort of creative freedom

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for the other 11 months of the year.

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You know, when people come to a Fringe Festival,

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most people want to see something a little bit different.

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My dad had woken the whole family up at 4:30 in the morning

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to see Haley's Comet.

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Mum and Dad had been fighting all night.

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And my dad was just filling the silence

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with these facts about Haley's Comet

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that he had been looking up all week.

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And he said...

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"To many ancient civilisations,

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"comets were seen as a sign of bad luck.

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"But in 1066, it burnt so brightly

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"that William the Conqueror thought it was a sign of good luck."

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He said, "I like that positivity."

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And my mum said,

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"Well, maybe you should have married William the Conqueror!"

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And how on earth do you write a story like that?

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I mean, that feels to me a bit like you've written a novel,

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or something as difficult as I think a novel would be.

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I'm a storyteller, and I think that stories...

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for me are like these little roadmaps that we're given

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and we turn to stories as roadmaps for experiences

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and how to deal with things and who to be,

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and I think that there was this story that I had

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that was really resonant for me,

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and I thought, "That's got to be resonant for other human beings."

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In her show, Sarah talks about her friend's battle with cancer.

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"..And Sally's cancer is back, and it's in her kidneys."

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And my dad says, "What stars can you see?"

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He always asks, "What stars can you see?"

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And I look up, and, uh, it's a really cloudy night,

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and I say to my dad, "There are no stars."

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And he says, "There are."

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"You just can't see them right now."

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And he said, "Things can change in an instant.

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"There's always tomorrow."

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And then I say to my dad...

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"I didn't see Haley's Comet."

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And my dad says,

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"Neither did I."

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I think I relax more when I'm telling a story.

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I think if I'm telling a gag,

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I always sort of felt like I would live or die by each gag

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and I could never build anything up.

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But with a story, you invest more, the audience invests more,

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you reveal more of yourself. I think it's that thing where

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-you've sort of got to leave a chunk of yourself on the stage.

-Yeah.

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I think that there is a trust that you develop with your audience

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and it's a very sort of... It feels like a very personal relationship.

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Each show, bizarrely, feels incredibly personal.

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Joseph Morpurgo's show Hammerhead

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playfully questions what the very idea of a stand-up show is,

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mixing audience interaction with technology

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to create something tricksy and hard to define.

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OK, so. "How did you structure the show?"

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OK. So. Most shows, as you know,

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have a beginning, a middle and an end.

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And our show, of course, has a beginning,

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but as well as moving forwards in time,

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we're also moving backwards in flashback

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which means the beginning is technically a middle.

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You see what I mean? Yeah, she does.

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And then, as well as an end,

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there's also a vice-end, a co-end and a deputy end.

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The latter of which is a traversable wormhole

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back to the beginning of the start,

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which is actually a middle sheathed in an ending.

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Now it gets interesting.

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Act one, act two, act three, act pi...

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..and then act four, which is a real-time flashback

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of everything you've just seen, so same thing again.

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Were you deliberately

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trying to break the form of a comedy show?

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You start with a premise, you set yourself its limitations,

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and then you just try and explore as deep as you can go within that.

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Hopefully through that process

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you discover something that's, um, like, unusual, or unexpected.

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I've been undone.

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Truly undone by vanity.

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In the candent heat of intellectual urgency,

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I have misconstrued all...

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-GERMAN ACCENT:

-Did somebody say strudel?

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Do you think that there's too much comedy at the Fringe this year?

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I think it's easy, personally, to become an aficionado

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and then a connoisseur and then to become a bit jaded

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-because you've seen so much stuff.

-Yeah.

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But I remember what it was like when I first came,

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and just to step into this, like, amazing realm...

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If you've never seen a clown show or a sketch show or a stand-up show,

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I think the fact there is, like, an endless, like, smorgasbord

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of stuff to see is a good thing.

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-# Tim!

-Oh, oh, oh, oh

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-# Chartered surveyor, Tim!

-Oh, oh, oh, oh

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# Surveying solo!

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# Sound, sound, structurally sound

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# Too much pebbledash, structurally sound

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# Issues with the party wall This one's been condemned

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# Five pounds! #

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Confounding our expectations further is Wild Bore,

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an absurd theatre piece where an international trio of performers

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take reviews from their previous works to create a show

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that has a laugh at the critics' expense.

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One reviewer said it was the worst theatrical experienced of his life.

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Another said, "Kill me. Kill me now."

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And it was also pegged as

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"a startlingly early frontrunner for worst show of the year."

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It opened on 7th January.

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The show is a montage of real quotes from real critics,

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taken...real reviews of real shows.

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We frame it as though it's about the show you're watching right now,

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but obviously it's from our past reviews,

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other people's past reviews, etc.

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For no apparent reason

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we have come into a darkened room to watch a theatre show.

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You may as well have written that for no apparent reason

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Hamlet holds the skull of Yorick in his hand for no apparent reason.

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You may as well have written that for no apparent reason

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she doth speak in iambic pentameter for no apparent...

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Yeah, there's no reason for that.

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So the show seems to mix, like,

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performance art and theatre with comedy.

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Is it consciously one or the other, or are you making a mixture?

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I think we're making a mixture.

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Although I consider myself a theatre-maker,

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there's, you know, comedy runs through all the work that I do.

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If you want to make people laugh

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and you're in a theatre context or you're in a...comedy context

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you do have to understand sort of like the form...

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The expectation, different tropes, different rules to that form.

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But I think it's funny that...

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In certain settings, like in Edinburgh,

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if you say, "I'm going to see comedy,"

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you picture one person on stage standing up with a microphone.

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-And that's silly.

-I think the show could sit just as well, you know,

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at a theatre festival as it could at a comedy festival.

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So while comedy is really ballooning,

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there are so many kind of subheadings to it now.

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We've seen storytelling and performance art

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and then this very hi-tech and audience-experience-involved thing.

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I mean, there is a lot of comedy, but it's always evolving,

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and I would say that at this time of social divide,

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the laughter and the unity that that brings is more important than ever.

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This year is the 70th anniversary of the International Festival.

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The programme celebrates the courage and ambition

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of the original gathering of artists.

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One of the highlights is Benjamin Clementine

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who brings his soulful and uncompromising musical style

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to Edinburgh.

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# Your cup is full Your cup is full

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# What have you not yet achieved?

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# It is obvious that you're trying

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# Dubious stop or you will die here

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# You're pretending but no-one is buying...

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# London, London London is calling you

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# What are you waiting for?

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# What you searching for? #

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Clementine's first tour de force won the Mercury Prize in 2015.

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Always a songwriter to defy characterisation,

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his new self-produced second album, I Tell A Fly,

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is no exception.

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I've just listened to your album twice through,

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and I think it's incredible. Where did it come from?

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My inspiration, my influences,

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which is what's going on around me.

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-In the world?

-Yeah, yeah.

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And that's what inspired me to write that second album.

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For example, you know, writing the song about...

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..Aleppo - I've seen people getting bombed, children crying,

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running away from, you know, a catastrophe.

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I was bullied in school, so if I was bullied in school

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and that trauma has stayed with me for over ten years,

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I could use that to talk about Aleppo,

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because of course what I experienced is

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nowhere near what the children of Aleppo are experiencing,

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but if it's that small, then imagine Aleppo, the children of Aleppo.

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# Oh, leave me, leave me Oh, leave me, leave me

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# Oh, love me, oh, love me

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# Leave me alone... #

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And, as a kid, did you escape to music?

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Certainly. I think music was...

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..my only, erm...

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way just to forget everything

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and to pretend nothing happened.

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And, you know, when I played music, when I played the piano,

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I always cried, because it was a feeling of...

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I felt peaceful, you know, and it brought so much emotion...

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-..out of me.

-I wanted to ask you about your voice, as well.

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So, your voice...

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I hated...

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..singing, because I felt that...

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The people that I listened to...

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-were, you know, Pavarotti, Maria Callas...

-Right.

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..you know, Andrea Bocelli, Lucio Dalla.

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It was Italian music, you know.

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There were times that I would just really try to sing along a little

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bit, but, you know, I got troubles with my neighbours always, yeah?

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I always did it when my parents were not around.

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But, again, you know, my neighbours would come and bang the door

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and tell me to shut up.

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# So, Billy

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# It's forgiven

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# Billy bully, bully Billy, it's all right

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# Oh, it's fine... #

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So, then, your own style of singing, that just came along with the music?

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Yeah, it came along as a consequence

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when I had to, you know, find a way to survive.

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-You don't really want to sing, as a normal human being.

-Why not?!

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-You know, you just want to listen to music, I think.

-Really?

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-People love singing.

-If it was left...

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The reason why I'm singing is because of consequences,

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it's not because I want to sing.

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Of course, I like singing, but it's not...

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..it's not what I'd hoped for as a kid.

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-I have to sing because I have something to say.

-Mm.

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It's the reason why I'm doing it.

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-I use music to communicate with people.

-Mm-hm.

-You know?

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When things were dire, you know, I had to open up to people,

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-and I couldn't do that without music.

-Mm-hm.

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And I don't think I can still do that without music.

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Do you think you'd do music without...pain?

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I think it would be impossible.

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I think that as soon as I'm done with what I want to say,

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I would stop.

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# Can you feel the thunder that Aleppo feels?

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# Billy

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# Oh, I believe

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# I believe, I believe

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# Can you feel the thunder that Aleppo feels?

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# Can you feel the thunder that Aleppo feels?

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# Can you feel the thunder that Aleppo feels?

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# Can you feel the thunder that Aleppo feels? #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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One of Edinburgh's most famous sons

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has come back to the festival this year.

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Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh has teamed up with actor and

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director Nick Moran to bring us a play that examines what happens

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when real-life gangsters come face-to-face with the art world.

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Performers is the story of two East End villains auditioning for

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parts in the classic arthouse film Performance,

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starring Mick Jagger and James Fox.

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Oi! We're not here to talk about art and bacon.

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We're supposed to be here to talk about pictures.

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And we're definitely not here to talk about naked pictures.

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Banned immediately upon release,

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Donald Cammell's cult classic challenged social norms

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and is widely considered to be a seminal piece of British cinema.

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Me!

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Me.

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Do you call that equitable?

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It's probably, along with Lindsay Anderson's If...,

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which was round about the same time, and Kubrick's Clockwork Orange...

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I mean, I think these are the three films

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that kind of staked out a pretty unique kind of

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territory in British cinema, because they're not trying to be

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Hollywood, or they're not even trying to be European arthouse.

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You know, and they had that mixture of kind of, you know,

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the kitchen-sink realism with the fantastical and the trippy,

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and that whole stylisation has gone

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right through from Quadrophenia to Trainspotting.

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And it's a film that deserves to be seen a lot more than

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it has been seen.

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I don't want any invalid, washed-up

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cabaret artistes in my beautiful basement.

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It's Donald Cammell trying to get authenticity in his film

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but being completely unaware that just by doing that,

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by having that as a thought, it's not inventive.

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It's patronising to try and think, "We'll get the real thing in."

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And the joy about the play is it's sort of revealed.

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Everybody's playing something that they can't ever really be or

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they can't completely maintain.

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The way that time period, the sixties,

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when you had the sexual revolution, the class barriers breaking down,

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people were kind of thinking about their identity and split

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identities and the management of their identity in everyday life

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to an extent for the first time,

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to an extent that they really weren't after the war.

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You could forge your own identity and just sort of...

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with a bit of conviction convince people that's who you really were,

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and that's why the play works so well.

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These guys can suddenly be famous, they can be in a film.

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It's only a bit of acting. No-one's going to get hurt.

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I don't believe you, Alf. You surprise me, you do.

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You really surprise me.

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I'm...

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Well...

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I'm surprised.

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In the '60s, so much British art was about class,

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but today it's much more complex than that.

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And perhaps it's not surprising that shows about identity

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and belonging and the breaking down of borders

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and boundaries are the big themes of this year's festival.

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Border Tales examines multiculturalism in Britain

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through dance, music and stories.

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It is a show about identity and multicultural living.

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It's quite remarkable to be bringing your actual personal

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stories to the work,

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and it means also digging into your own background,

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maybe things that you've even taken for granted,

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things that you don't notice any more, and really mining that,

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and I think that's incredibly powerful.

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From east London, visceral dance piece Blak Whyte Gray is

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based on conversations about identity and heritage

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the choreographer Michael Asante had with his Nigerian father

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and explores the struggle for liberation from colonialism.

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I've been struck by all these shows exploring our myriad British

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identities, but there's one artist shining a particularly personal

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and political light on this theme.

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Selina Thompson's powerful evocation of slavery and its dreadful

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legacy are explored in her extraordinary one-woman show Salt.

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Preparation for this show began with a real-life gruelling

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journey retracing the transatlantic slave trade

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route below the deck of a cargo ship.

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We are all descended from enslaved people.

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On a form, I tick "Black British".

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If you ask me where I'm from, I'll say, "Birmingham."

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If you ask me where I'm really from, I'll think, "Me mum."

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There's loads of really extraordinary

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work at the festival this year that's kind of looking at race

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and identity, lots of work from black women.

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It's really awesome to feel like part of...

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part of a moment in time where lots of people have kind of wanted to...

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speak honestly and frankly about...

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..this history but also the present and to imagine the future.

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And what were your current motivations for making this piece?

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It's been really eerie being up here with this show this week

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while everything's been happening in the States.

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It's felt... It's very eerie to be working on this show while something

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like Grenfell, that had massive racial implications, was happening.

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It feels like a very potent moment.

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But I think it would have felt potent for me last year.

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He tells me that the continent will never progress.

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He tells me that the people are feral children.

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He tells me to be wary of Africans, who, he tells me,

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will hate me worst of all.

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He finishes up by telling me that racism is ancient history.

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He knows I will say nothing.

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It is cartoon racism, brutish, impolite racism,

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not the smooth, slick, confused racism of my nice liberal friends.

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What was the journey like for you?

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-Whoo! Erm, great material for a show.

-Yeah.

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-A very difficult time in my own life.

-How long did it take?

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So, the whole thing took about two months, just over two months.

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And I think it's the kind of thing which...

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It would have been difficult even if everything had worked

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out perfectly, because I think to retrace...

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..the physical locations of the middle passage whilst

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thinking about all the things that took place there historically

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was always going to be extremely painful.

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But we were then dealing with a ship full of officers

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and crew members who were racist and very hostile.

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This is the master.

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I despise calling him master.

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His power is maintained by aggression and intimidation.

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He bullies his officers...

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who alienate his crew...

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and terrorise the woman, shouting at her, so she shouted at me,

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and we're still at sea in the morning.

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Where does the salt come from?

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I wanted salt because it has so many gorgeous connotations.

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So, firstly on a really bread-and-butter kind of thing,

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salt as in tears, salt as in sweat, salt as in the sea.

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But also the role that salt plays in healing, the fact that, like,

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salt is one of the quickest healing things that there is, but it hurts.

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But also, I wanted a physically difficult task.

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Like, I wanted something where...

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..you would sit and it would feel...

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There would be a very visceral sense of somebody working in front of you.

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-VOICEOVER:

-Modernity as we understand it is, like, founded

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on colonialism and founded on the slave trade.

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And it's going to sound really big and over the top, but the only way

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that you change any of that is like a complete overhaul of the world.

7:52:497:52:52

So it's a cheerful show and everybody skips

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-out of the theatre at the end...

-NINA LAUGHS

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..feeling optimistic and happy about life!

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The art festival is also exploring this issue by looking

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at Scotland's historical role in the transportation of slaves.

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Inspired by Robert Burns' poem The Slave's Lament,

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artists Douglas Gordon

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and Graham Fagen are exploring surprising links between Burns,

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the famous champion of egalitarianism, and the slave trade.

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Gordon's work Black Burns is a response to a white marble

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statue of Robert Burns present in the National Portrait Gallery

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and aims to humanise the bard by making

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the truth of his character more explicit.

7:53:317:53:34

No matter whether it would be a big abstract piece,

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I like to know what things are made of.

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A lot of Robert Burns himself was about being honest and open

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and trying to pull himself apart as a man in order to...

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you know, the everyman idea that "a man's a man for a' that".

7:53:517:53:56

It's quite a brutal piece of work. Is he shattered? Is he broken?

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Or has he just been opened up?

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It's highly polished on the outside,

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and then we see what's underneath the surface.

7:54:077:54:10

Where's the real figure? Where is the real fellow?

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# It was in sweet Senegal That my foes did me enthral... #

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In the adjacent gallery to Black Burns is Graham Fagen's

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work The Slave's Lament.

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Fagan has created a version of the poem with a haunting melody

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sung by reggae artist Ghetto Priest.

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# And must never see it more

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# And alas! I am weary, weary, O

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# Torn from that lovely shore

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# And must never see it more

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# And alas! I am weary, weary, O... #

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The poignant poem charts the journey of a slave aboard a ship

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from Africa to Virginia.

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And yet Burns, legendary man of the people,

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almost went to work on a slave plantation.

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I discovered that Burns had booked a passage to go to Jamaica to

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work on a plantation.

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So I felt I had to deal with that as an artist,

7:55:147:55:18

I had to start a conversation.

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And I suppose that's when I met up with Ghetto Priest.

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And what has your experience of this work been like?

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Deep. Profound, to say the least,

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because I really believe, in my crazy head,

7:55:327:55:37

that it's viable with all this

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that that 17th-century man called upon me to do this for Graham.

7:55:407:55:46

-Yeah. Crazy.

-But he's stripped the flesh from one man.

-Mm.

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Burns, Black Burns. I'm the black Burns!

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Graham's work was made before I did mine, so I'm just copying him!

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I hope nobody falls on it and gets impaled.

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But, you know, there could be worse ways to go.

7:56:047:56:07

Getting impaled by Robert Burns beyond the grave. Not bad.

7:56:077:56:10

I don't think that anybody could ever point to anything in Burns

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and say it's pretentious.

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As opposed to me!

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I always feel like in Edinburgh the first week of the festival

7:56:237:56:27

is in a different city from the final week,

7:56:277:56:28

because you've been on such a journey.

7:56:287:56:30

I've seen such a huge array of stuff.

7:56:307:56:32

It's definitely exhausting, but I'm never going to get tired of it.

7:56:327:56:36

And then always at the last minute

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you find something else completely different...

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How you feeling out there?

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..such as one of this year's top-rated Fringe hits, Acelere,

7:56:457:56:48

the latest gravity-defying show from Circolombia,

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mixing Latin-American dance, soulful singing

7:56:517:56:54

and jaw-dropping acrobatic stunts.

7:56:547:56:57

It's a nonstop circus party to warm your heart.

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