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For 200 years, it's brought the world to Scotland | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and has spoken for Scotland to the world. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
The Scotsman is one of the most prestigious names in the world of | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
newspapers, in this or any other country. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Its editors have risked life and limb for its freedom. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Its reporters have been at the very centre of the country's great disputes. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Terrible, terrible arguments with each other. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Real blowouts. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Its writing has inspired and moved readers. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
We could have played anybody when it came to reporting. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
And the men and women behind the headlines have had some fun as | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
they've recorded history of Scotland. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Anybody who thinks that we exaggerate the drinking culture of | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
The Scotsman in the '80s wasn't there at the time. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Day by day, year by year, century by century, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
Scotland's stories have been written across its pages. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
But as it celebrates its 200th anniversary, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
the circulation is falling and the paper is struggling to survive. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Whether in the current climate, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
certain kinds of newspaper can survive as newspapers, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
I have my doubts. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Now, it's more pressing than ever to tell the biggest story in town, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
the story of The Paper Thistle. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
The story of The Scotsman. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
In terms of numbers, it will be just over... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Hello. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
Of a day, we are between 56, 64 pages. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
So although there are questions that you'll have as to how you're going | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
to fill the space, the first thing you'll do in the morning | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
is line things up and have an idea. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
OK, right, then, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
we'll just take a quick run through those placings... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
When big stories break it is... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
It is very exciting and that is great and the adrenaline runs. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
When it's at its worst, you're sitting there scratching your head saying, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
"OK, I've got 56 pages to fill tomorrow and I'm not sure how this is going | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
"to work." And that's when it starts getting... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
You want to start tearing your hair out. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Graham, do you want to tell us the sport? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Well, there's good stuff from Celtic today as well. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Brendan Rodgers... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
In The Scotsman newsroom, the pressure is to produce tomorrow's news today. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
It's the speed now more than any other ability. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
-Uh-huh, to be first. -That is the important thing. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
-Yeah. -To be first. -To get a story, to put it online, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
to put out on social media, that's really where the emphasis is. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
But five floors below today's fast moving newsroom sits two centuries' | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
worth of stories in The Scotsman's astonishing archive. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
200 years' worth of The Scotsman in this room... | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
..with a bit of light. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
So round here we have the bound | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
copies of The Scotsman. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
The most recent in this aisle, 1984 up to here. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
But if we go right down to the bottom, we will get to 1817, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
-the very start. -200 years, 53,000 editions, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
over one and a half million pages, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
headlines big and small, happy and sad. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I can get lost for days in here. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Some of my colleagues probably wish I would but you can really become | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
immersed in so much that was going on at that time in history and some | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
of the stories are interlinked. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
A glance through the bound editions reveals big stories that shook the | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
world, wee stories that didn't. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
A picture archive full of lost moments. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
First coloured policeman in Edinburgh. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Mr Laird Maclean, portrait of him, 1971. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
And reports that bear witness to Scotland's history and, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
if you read between the lines, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
you can sense the commitment of the men and women who've written for | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
The Paper Thistle. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
That's an important thing for the readers, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
they say to us that you have an obligation, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
you have a responsibility here to get this right because you're | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-actually recording history. -As editor, as custodian of that | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
heritage, you are very conscious of it and sometimes it's quite a | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
daunting responsibility. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Since 1817, the reporters, the readers, the printers, the pages, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
the country may have changed beyond recognition, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
but there are still essential elements of The Scotsman that | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
the readers expect in every edition. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And like all good newspaper stories, it begins on the front page. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
The front page is how The Scotsman announces itself to the world. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
You're always looking at the front page, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
you're trying to make that front page as dramatic as you can possibly make it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
You are on the stands along with 17 other newspapers, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
how do you make people - if they're reaching up for one - | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
how do you make them reach for yours? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:17 | |
The answer is that front page has got to have things on it that are | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
going to try and sell it. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Under that famous masthead, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
The Scotsman must splash the headlines in a distinctive way... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
..every single day. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Front pages need big stories, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
fantastic photos and attention-grabbing headlines. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
I think you want something that projects the character of the paper | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
as well as telling the main story you want to tell. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
I used to sit on the back bench | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
every night and look at the headline, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
look at the design, look at the projection, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
the picture on the front, and from time to time say, "Scrap that, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
"let's start again." And everybody would moan and shoulders would slump | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
and you start again. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
The Scotsman has had some stunning front pages over the years. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
But on the very first edition of The Scotsman on January 25, 1817, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
there was no splash. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
No headlines. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
Just a declaration of principles. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
It announces itself as an insurgent newspaper. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Its claims of firmness, independence, impartiality, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
are in a way intended to highlight how the other newspapers at the time | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
were not like that. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
If you go back and you read through the first ten or 15 years of | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
The Scotsman, it is a very idealistic, crusading newspaper. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
The paper was established by William Ritchie, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
a Fife solicitor, and Charles Maclaren, a Customs man. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And the front-page news was that Edinburgh now had a paper of principle. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
So much so that in 1829 when The Scotsman was slighted by a rival | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
publication, the Caledonian Mercury, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Charles Maclaren challenged its editor to a duel. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
He's defending the honour of his newspaper because he feels that the | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Caledonian Mercury have impugned that honour. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-Both men... -Fire! | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
..missed. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
The Mercury eventually went out of print but The Scotsman flourished. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
And over the decades, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
the front pages have changed from radical to respectable, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
from a clarion call to a commercial free-for-all. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Because from 1831, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
the front page of The Scotsman was dedicated to classified ads. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
Ads for operas, ads for caravans, ads for sets of false teeth. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
For over a century, the classifieds were given pride of place. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Even the sinking of the Titanic couldn't push small ads from the | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
front page. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
The Scotsman front page didn't change until the 1950s. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
By then, small ads were what the well-to-do readers of The Scotsman | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
expected to see under the masthead. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
And those readers didn't like change. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
They liked their Scotsman to be predictable, constant, unsurprising. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
The paper was actually dying on its feet and it was no wonder because it | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
was a boring newspaper. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Even worse, The Scotsman had accrued massive debts. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
Unpaid death duties and a fall in circulation meant by the 1950s | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
it found itself teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
Nobody in post-war Britain had the money to buy the publication and | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
there were palpitations on Princes Street when the traditional | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
patriotic Scotsman was sold to a foreigner! | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
There was this brash Canadian and he was the last man on | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
earth I would have thought that The Scotsman management and Edinburgh | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
would have wanted to own the paper. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
His name was Roy Thomson and his | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
main goal was to make a lot of money. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
What's your recipe for this success? | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
By complete concentration and effort, one can go anywhere at all. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
When Thomson first flew into Edinburgh in 1953, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
Auld Reekie's great and good were unimpressed by the rich little Canuck. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
He had a lot of money and no breeding! | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
He obviously hadn't gone to the right schools! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
He was persuaded with difficulty not to bring an American Cadillac to the | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
streets of Edinburgh. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
He just didn't understand the city. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
But he understood business and he had big changes planned for | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
-The Paper Thistle. -It's my pleasure. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
He said, "The first thing I'd like to change is the front page," | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
because it was full of small ads and he said, "Really, I mean, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
"who wants to pick up their newspaper in the morning | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
"and the first thing they see is something that tells them to drink | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
"Andrews Liver Salts?" | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
And everybody looked at each other and said, "Oh!" | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
It took four full years for Thomson to persuade the journalists this was | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
a good idea. But finally on the 17th of April 1957, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
Scotland's national newspaper put news across its front page. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
And The Scotsman's been splashing ever since. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
The news pages of The Scotsman were filled with the unglamorous business | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
of accurately and impartially reporting Scottish news. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
If journalism is the first draft of history, then on some of Scotland's | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
darkest days, The Scotsman was there in the front row. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
In 1828, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
readers were gripped by the accounts of the gruesome trial | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
of Burke and Hare. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
In 1916, it witnessed zeppelins dropping bombs on the Grassmarket. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
In 1960, it described a tragic whisky bond fire in Glasgow. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
When it came to street reporting, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
we had people around who could do the job all right and there was a | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
point made about how vivid The Scotsman's reporting was. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
And Scotsman reporters brought us one of the most earth-shattering | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
exclusives of all time. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Oh, I can't really think of anything of a scientific discovery that would | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
really change the whole way that you look on the globe and its history, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
which was revealed in a newspaper. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
This epic exclusive was unveiled in 1840. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
A brilliant young geologist called Louis Agassiz had come to Scotland | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
and the editor of The Scotsman sent a reporter to accompany him to | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
the Highlands. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
He was then reported at gigantic length in The Scotsman. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
These explosive reports, published BEFORE Darwin's theory of evolution, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
implied that the earth had not been created in seven days, because the | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
scarring on the landscape must have been caused by ancient ice. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
This really was very big shock to, you know, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
the pious readership of Edinburgh and the Lothians. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
There had been an Ice Age and this evidence in Scotland proves it. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
2.6 million years after the event, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
The Scotsman reporter was on the spot with breaking news... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
The Ice Age - and it was the first paper in the world to reveal that it | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
-had happened at all. -They're quite difficult to read now and it was | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
boring but nonetheless, they represent | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
what one would call a scoop of gigantic scale - | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
The Scotsman's biggest scoop, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
the Ice Age. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
But for most of its history, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
The Scotsman's news pages have been less mind-blowing, because the paper | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
prided itself on being Scotland's paper of record. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
Whenever there was a committee meeting, a public speech, a civic soiree, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
it would be entered into The Scotsman's desk diary. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
This great big red book, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
I remember, it was like a kind of Bible, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
you know, and the things that have to be covered. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Any Scottish MP who spoke in the House of Commons | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
would expect a paragraph | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
or two in The Scotsman the next day or would want to know why not. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Reporters were allocated stories from the desk diary and duly | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
recorded what happened. No matter if it was newsworthy or not. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
The first job I was given in | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
The Scotsman was to cover a cage-bird show. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time at Lothian Regional | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Council's Drainage Committee. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
I knew an awful lot about the drainage problems underlying the | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
City of Edinburgh. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
This commitment to cataloguing every spit and cough of every civic | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
committee meant the news pages could be uninspiring. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
I think some of the stories probably were quite boring but The Scotsman | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
felt it had a duty to cover certain things. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
By the 1970s, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
reporters began to rebel against the diktats of the desk diary. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
One of the subs got very drunk late on and wrote right across the next | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
day's diary page, "When are you..." - bad word - | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
"..c...s going | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
"to try and produce some real news for once?" | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
In the end, events overtook the events diary. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
As the 1970s and '80s progressed, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
the news agenda elsewhere pushed the utterings of Edinburgh blazers and | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
committee men to the margins. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
I was at the graveside when the funeral of the Gibraltar Three, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
the IRA terrorists, was attacked by a loyalist gunmen throwing grenades. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
Jesus. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
They sent me to Glasgow. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
In Glasgow there was news, there was hard news, there was real events, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
there was murders, there was gang wars, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
there was disasters on a scale - | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
a hard news scale - that didn't happen in Edinburgh. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
It could get quite hairy. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
This was real seat-of-the-pants stuff. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
It was a notebook, a pen, no mobile phones and it was... It was great, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:24 | |
I mean, it was exciting. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
And the pressure to cover every aspect of Scottish Civic life was | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
put to rest in the late '80s, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
when Magnus Linklater was appointed editor. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
And one of the first questions he was asked by staff was if he | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
saw The Scotsman as a paper of record. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
My immediate answer was no, and I remember the intake of breath | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
from the assembled company. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I thought the newspaper ought to be a newspaper campaigning, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
investigating, reporting in depth. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
That was far more important than this long-standing tradition of | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
being a newspaper of record. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
It wasn't about quantity of news, it was about quality - the tone, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
the understanding, and what was expected, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
particularly in traumatic times for Scotland. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Someone interrupted the conference and poked his head round the door | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and said, "There's been a shooting in a school in Dunblane." | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Now, we had no idea, I had no idea, the magnitude of that story. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
It could have just been somebody was wounded. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
But as we began to realise what was happening, and we had to say first | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
of all to the staff, "Right, here are the rules. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
"Report the facts, keep everything as straight as possible, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
"be sympathetic to whoever is out there." | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
And then we had to find out who knew what and cover every base you | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
possibly could, as sensitively as you possibly could. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
No over-emotionalism. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
Readers expected The Scotsman to cover the big Scottish stories with | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
both understanding and hard-headed, in-depth analysis. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
But The Scotsman also had to be national and international. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
In the '90s, the paper recruited a network of correspondents in war zones. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
And they'd call Andrew McLeod on the foreign desk and provide eyewitness | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
accounts of wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and, on one harrowing occasion, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
in Bosnia. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
I do remember a call. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
He'd just see these things and he would run through them pretty | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
breathlessly, what he had just seen, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
and one time he phoned and he said "Andrew, I've just been in a house." | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
And I said, "Yeah." "And it was dark, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
"I walked into the room and, erm..." | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
He said, "...it's... I thought, 'Well, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
"'the water pipes must have burst,'" he said, 'in the battle,' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
"because it was all wet." | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
And he said, "But it wasn't water," he said, "It was... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
"It was squelching with blood, the floorboards," | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
"the blood was coming up through the floorboards." He said, "There'd been | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
"a massacre in there." And outside, he'd found the bodies of a father and son. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
At its best, the news pages of The Scotsman brought first-hand accounts | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
from a dangerous and increasingly complex world to the safety of | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
breakfast tables across Scotland. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
It's important to witness it. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
You're not a complete newspaper unless you're covering everything. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
That's my view. And if you're not covering foreign news, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
in my view, you're not a newspaper. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
But newspapers have never been just about the news. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
A friend of mine once said that a | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
newspaper is a formatted set of surprises. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
And I think it's a magnificent description. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
In its very first edition, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
The Scotsman declared itself a political and literary journal. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
And to be the newspaper of Scotland's chattering classes, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
The Scotsman must deliver provocative pages of artistic | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
and literary chatter. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
The arts pages were the throbbing heart of the paper and to have | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
good critics, good reviewers, was imperative. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
We run, I think, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
probably the most comprehensive Edinburgh Festival coverage | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
of any newspaper. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
I think there have probably been days when I've submitted 14 or 15 reviews. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
Whilst the arts pages celebrate what's in the spotlight, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Scotsman features try to get behind the facade, to reveal | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
hidden sides to familiar people and places. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Your dream Scotsman Magazine story might be At Home With JK Rowling, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
where she shows you all her latest work and tells you exclusively | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
what she's working on next and reveals how much she loves | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
the paper, that sort of thing! | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
But many features are longer stories that evoke a time and a place. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
For example, what was it like to get a job on The Scotsman in its heyday? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
Well, I was a student down in Cambridge and I heard that The Scotsman had | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
a last-minute vacancy, and in those days the best way up was the | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
night sleeper. I was in the cheap one, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
which meant that you shared a compartment. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
There were two bunks. I arrived on the bunk and there was a guy sitting | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
in his underpants, literally, and a string vest, and he had one of those | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
great big multipack cartons of Special Brew and a thick, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
thick fug of cigarette smoke. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
He looked up and he said, "Eh, sir, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
"I hope you're not one of they, 'Oh, I don't like to smoke, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
"'I don't like to drink,' or one of they kind of student poofs, are ye?" | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
I said, "No, no, of course not." | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
And so I sat there and smoked maybe 300 or 400 cigarettes and drank | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
maybe a dozen cans of Special Brew rather than sleeping. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
So I arrived in Waverley Station the following morning smelling like a | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
kipper, red-faced, bleary, blotchy, hair all over the place, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
eyes bright scarlet and I had an early-morning interview at The Scotsman. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
And I went down to the newsroom and opened the door | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
and there staring at me, about 20 or 30 people who looked worse than | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
I was. And I thought, "I've come home." | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Home for Scotsman journalists was the famous North Bridge offices. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
Purpose-built in 1905, it was a legendary place to work. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
The building was festooned with tubes. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
It was noisy, it could be quite sweaty at times. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
You have to think of a very, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
very strong smell of bodies and cigarette and pipe smoke. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
And there's lots of inky-fingered people wandering around in boiler suits. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Down at the bottom, opposite the back of the station, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
you had the printing presses. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
Above that you had the case room where the typesetting was done. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Above that you had the newsrooms. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Above street level it became, you know, accountants, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
advertising and the people running the place, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
managing director's office would be on the top floor. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
If the building was eccentric, so were the occupants. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
The building itself lent itself to people being able to disappear | 0:23:21 | 0:23:28 | |
and we had people, for example, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
who had separated from their partners, who were actually living | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
in the building. We had people who had retired but refused to be | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
retired and used to come into work every day. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
MUSIC: Just Can't Get Enough by Depeche Mode | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
And no wonder. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
As there was one journalistic stereotype that ran very true. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Anybody who thinks that we exaggerate the drinking culture of | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
The Scotsman in the '80s wasn't there at the time. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
It was pretty extreme. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Drinking in those days was, you know, a completely tolerated thing. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Nowadays, you know, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
the idea even that somebody might have a glass of wine would be seen | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
-as rather louche. -There was certainly no opprobrium attached to the idea | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
you've gone for a couple of pints during your break. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I was taken to lunch by an editor and, you know, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
there was a drink before lunch, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
there was two bottles of wine at lunch, and as we came up Cockburn Street | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
towards The Scotsman office, he said | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
"Well, we'll just pop into the Malt Shovel | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
"and see what the malt of the day is." | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
As a young reporter, I would expect to be in the Jinglin' Geordie | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
virtually every day by midday, and I would expect to drink, sort of, five or six pints | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
and then a fair amount of wine and possibly tequila, and then come back | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and do my afternoon's work. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
We would often go to the Doric and | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
consume a ridiculous amount of alcohol | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
over lunchtime, discussing the | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
paper and maybe entertaining contacts. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
And then go back and try to focus on | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
two fingers not getting stuck in the typewriter, as it was. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
And the first thing that you learned was to be able to produce apparently | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
lucid copy in a state of almost catatonic drunkenness. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Was it a good thing? Probably no. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
But is it a good thing to be sitting stuck in front of a computer screen | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
nonstop for ten hours, hardly ever speaking to another person, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
without going out and meeting people and making contacts? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
I think that's even worse. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
The Scotsman first launched a women's page in 1925, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
which was called Woman To Date. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Over the years, there have been various pages for the ladies, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
but precious few women in the building to write them. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
The women's page, well, there weren't very many women. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
The Scotsman was very much male-dominated. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Throughout the 1950s and '60s, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
male editors largely expected the woman's page to be a formulaic rote | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
of recipes, fashion and domestic delight. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
And on the rare occasions when they took any interest, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
it confirmed that Scotsmen were from Mars | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
and Scotswomen were from Venus. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Alastair Dunnett was asking what we had for the women's page that night and he said, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
"I like that but what I don't want... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
"I don't want simmets." | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
And I said, "Oh, I see." | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
So I went back to the girls on the women's page and said, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
"He says he doesn't want simmets!" | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
And I think he meant he didn't want parochialism. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
We thought that might be it but we weren't very sure! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
By the 1970s, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
female hacks began to escape from the good housekeeping ghetto of the | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
women's page and brought a very different sensibility to | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
The Scotsman reporting role. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Margaret Thatcher swept into the room, sat down... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
I seem to remember I was the only woman at that press conference, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
literally, the only woman there and eventually I put up my hand and | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
asked her, "Well, what do you think about the current movement for women's rights | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
"and should there be more women in the House of Commons?" blah, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
blah and she said, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
"I hate the expression women's lib," which I'd never used anyway, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
and she went on to denounce women's lib because it made women who stayed | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
at home bringing up their children feel inferior. And so the | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
conversation continued and then she kind of cut me short, saying, "But, you know, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
"enough of that, we'll bore the men." | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
By the 1990s, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
The Scotsman realised it was having trouble attracting Scotswomen. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
Radical thinking was required. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
The guys upstairs were noticing that women readers were peeling away from | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
The Scotsman and they concluded they needed to do something, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
but they didn't know what it was. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Sitting in an editorial board of 13 people, of which I was the only woman, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
it seemed kind of obvious to me. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
So finally one day I kind of cleared my throat and said, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
"What about this idea?" | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
The idea was The Scotsman would have a sex change for | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
International Women's Day, to rechristen the paper The Scotswoman. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
To my astonishment, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
at least half the guys on the board totally agreed with it straight off. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
The idea of it was to say that who edits a paper dictates, very largely, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
its agenda, its outlook, the stories it selects, all these things. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
The Scotswoman was published on the 8th of March, 1995. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
All the editorial decisions were taken by women. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
The splash focused on equality. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
It had a tokenistic men's page. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
And The Scotswoman made headlines all over the world. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I got phone calls with each time zone that woke up, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
so I stayed up all night. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
There was a bit of a feeling of triumph. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
It was the highest-selling edition of that decade. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
We, for donkey's years, have been buying The Scotsman. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
It should be more for women, why not? Why The Scotsman, eh? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
And then I appeared in The Scotsman, the meeting, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
the normal morning meeting, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
and I remember the editor of the day turned to me and said, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
"Well, yesterday was all right. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
"Henry, do you want to go through the sport?" | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
For 200 years, Scotsman readers have been writing of their disgust, joy, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
praise and delight to the editor of The Scotsman. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
I turn to the letters page, which is very important, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
where a great deal of steam emanates from that page. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
We do publish letters that we don't agree with - we always have. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Again, that's a founding principle of the newspaper. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
To read a newspaper is to participate in the conversation. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
This is part of our national conversation, that's why it's so important. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
History has been made on The Scotsman's letters pages. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
In 1870, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
correspondents arranged the world's first international rugby match. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
And during the First World War, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
The Scotsman published letters from the trenches that gave eyewitness | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
accounts of the Christmas truce of 1914. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Some letters are more critical. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
And some never made it to the editor's desk. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
The letters were put in this wire basket behind the back bench and I | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
certainly know of at least two occasions when a journalist went through | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
that day's letters and saw somebody complaining about him, you know, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
one of the reporters, or one of the specialists, just took the letter out, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
crumpled it up, and threw it away. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
That was, in a way, how things worked, you know! | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Sometimes complaining letters did get through but were banished | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
for other reasons. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
One of the letter writers that I had to keep at bay was my mother, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
who was the SNP agent in Orkney and used to write | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
ferocious letters criticising The Scotsman's stance and I had to put a | 0:31:17 | 0:31:24 | |
moratorium on that - | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
I thought it would not actually look very good if I had my mother writing | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
to the paper. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
Some readers have spent their lives writing to The Scotsman, and in one | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
case beyond a lifetime. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
In 2015, David Fiddimore, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
a regular correspondent facing a terminal diagnosis, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
wrote a final missive to The Scotsman, requesting that it be held | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
until after his death. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
When he passed away, his last love letter to the paper was published. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
But when you send a letter to the editor of The Scotsman, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
just who are you writing to? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
There have been 26 editors of The Scotsman in the past two centuries. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Ten in the past 20 years. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
Whenever I do go out to anything and meet people, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
everybody knows The Scotsman, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
everybody has a view as to what I do right and what I do wrong. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
Many of them are not slow in coming forward in telling me what I'm doing wrong. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
In two centuries of The Scotsman, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
there have been two editors who have changed the readers' relationship | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
with the paper. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
The first was an old-school newspaperman who almost nobody outside the | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
North Bridge building has ever heard of, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
but was a legend amongst journalists. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
His name was Eric MacKay. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Eric Mackay was the journalists' favourite editor. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Eric Mackay came from the North East and I always thought of him as being | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
hewn from a granite quarry somewhere in the North East because he had a | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
solidity and a kind of immovability that was remarkable. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
He was pretty monosyllabic. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Occasionally, if he heard an interesting piece of gossip, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
he'd say, "Ah, get away!" | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
You know, "What happened?" | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
My goodness, he cared about that paper and he knew every word that | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
-appeared in it. -Mackay became editor in 1972 and for 13 years he cajoled | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
and supported his journalists. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
He said a lot of great things, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
the sort of things you wanted an editor to say to you. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
When the miners' strike really kicked off, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
he called me in and said, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
"Look, the coverage over the next few months is bound to be dominated, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
"the news coverage, by the coal board setting the agenda and we'll | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
"be going to the NUM for reaction. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
"What I want you to do is to go out to the mining communities and the pits | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
"and get the miners' stories and make the coal board react, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
"so we get a bit of balance." | 0:34:26 | 0:34:27 | |
Throughout the 1970s and into the early '80s, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Eric Mackay was at the helm in what was seen as the golden age of | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
The Scotsman. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
And the readers appreciated it. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Under Mackay's leadership during that political period, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
the paper put on a vast amount of circulation. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
It peaked at one point at just over 100,000, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
because it was so tuned in to | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
what was happening with Scottish society. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
And even when a journalist dared to disagree with the legendary editor, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Mackay handled it with delicacy. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
I sort of felt that I was due a little more money, so I would go in | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
on a number of times and have a chat with Eric about money, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
and he had this way | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
of looking at you - "I hear what you're saying, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
"leave it with me." And at that your shoulders sagged and you realised | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
there's not a hope in hell of getting another brass farthing out | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
of the organisation, you know. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
He did it beautifully and I didn't lose trust in him. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
After nearly 13 years in the editor's chair, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
Eric Mackay retired in 1985. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
Chris Baur took over, but it was a difficult moment to be the editor, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
because the management were determined to change pay and conditions, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
even if that meant a conflict with their journalists. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
MUSIC: Chance by Big Country | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
We turned up for work one day and the doors were barricaded, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
we were locked out, it was an old-fashioned Victorian lock-out. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
I had a choice to make because I was technically editorial management but | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
I couldn't bring myself to support the management management of that paper | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
and I guess I thought there was a better class of people in the picket line. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
We could go across the close, Fleshmarket Close, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
up to the offices of the agency, United News Service, and peer across | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
through the windows and see, in what had been my room, the features room, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
a makeshift newsroom being operated by people we didn't recognise, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
bringing the paper out day after day, while we were locked out. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
I remember I was standing outside the staff entrance of The Scotsman | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
the first time that I had been designated to be one of that day's pickets and | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
up these steps from Waverley Station came a number of people who worked | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
for The Herald who | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
were coming home - they lived in Edinburgh, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
worked for The Herald in Glasgow, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
and they were coming home off the train and as they passed, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
they pressed bottles of drink into our hands as a nice gesture | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
of solidarity. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
To the dismay of striking journalists, The Scotsman, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
albeit thin and of a poor standard, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
was hitting the streets every day and eventually, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
the hacks had to concede. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
And we went back with our tail between our legs. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Our conditions were quite savagely attacked. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Longer hours, changes to the working week, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
effectively pay cut, and quite a lot of recriminations. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
It was a horrible time. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
In 1987, dispute about budget, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
pay and conditions went to the very core of the paper. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
Thomson Regional News specialised in regional papers, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
but The Scotsman saw itself as a national paper. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
Thomson Regional Newspapers never got it at all, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
they never got Scotland in the least. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
They just kept saying, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
"Well, why can't you just share Parliamentary services with the | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
"Middlesbrough Evening News, for example?" | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
Presenting The Scotsman as Scotland's national newspaper has | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
always had one flaw - the West has traditionally favoured the Herald. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Dundee has the Courier and there's the Press and Journal in the | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
North East. But when Magnus Linklater became editor in 1988, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
he thought he could tackle that head-on. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
I remember once trying to build our Glasgow circulation by sending out | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
invitations to all the leading businesses in Glasgow to take | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
six weeks' free subscription to | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
The Scotsman and there was nil take up. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
I mean, the Glasgow businessmen, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
some of them not only refused to take up the free offer, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
some of them took the trouble to write back saying, "I wouldn't have | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
"The Scotsman in my office if you paid me." | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
So, there was a complete division, really, but we didn't recognise that, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
we regarded ourselves as a Scottish national paper. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
But even the management weren't convinced that The Scotsman was | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
indeed the country's national paper. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
When I was fired - | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
and I think it's a bit of a badge of honour to be fired as an editor - | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
I fell out with the management, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
I think, largely because I still regarded | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
The Scotsman as a national paper | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
and I think they felt that that was an expensive item and it should be a | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
regional paper, which would be much cheaper. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
MUSIC: Movin' On Up by Primal Scream | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
In 1995, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
Thomson Regional News sold The Scotsman to the Barclay brothers. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
Frederick and David Barclay were twin-brother billionaires who lived | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
as tax exiles in the Channel Islands and had a burning desire to own a | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
national paper. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:42 | |
And they invested in The Scotsman, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
buying a brand-new home and providing extra resources. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
They were determined to give it the power to fight on that stage and to | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
win on that stage. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
We had the money to do international affairs properly, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
to expand The Scotsman's coverage of Scotland. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
It was a tremendous time to be there. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
But the Barclay brothers were also notoriously publicity-shy and so | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
needed someone experienced, who was comfortable in the spotlight, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
to steer The Scotsman. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
And they made possibly the most controversial appointment in the | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
history of the paper, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
making Andrew Neil editor in chief. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
I'm here to spend money, I'm here to invest in the journalism, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
I'm here to invest in the marketing of our papers. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
Andrew Neil was a former editor of the Sunday Times, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
a devout Thatcherite, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
whose autobiography described the Scottish media as | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
"largely old-fashioned, left wing". | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
He claimed that Tony Blair hoped his appointment would help bring | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
Scottish political opinion into the last decade of the 20th century. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
I mean, it's going to be a wonderful, feisty time, you know, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
here's a dynamic guy, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:58 | |
coming back to Scotland at a time where three papers | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
are doing remarkably well, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
and we want to take them forward and upward, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
and what better guy to do that? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
By the 1990s, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
tartan editions of the big English dailies were impacting on the | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
circulation of Scottish newspapers. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
The new editor in chief had a fight on his hands. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Working for Andrew is a tough experience. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
He had these huge ambitions for the newspaper and he didn't see why we | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
couldn't be better than Fleet Street. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
If you had him in a newsroom, you know, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
you could see why he had such a formidable reputation. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
He basically asks his staff to jump to the moon and you kind of think, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:41 | |
"That's crazy, we can't jump to the moon." | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
But you end up jumping higher than you ever thought you could jump. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
In an interview, he compared old Scotsman journalists to carthorses | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
and declared they would be replaced with, "frisky young stallions and mares." | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
He didn't mind offending people like that or challenging shibboleths. | 0:41:55 | 0:42:01 | |
He cut the cover price. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Star columnists were appointed. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
By August 2000, circulation had | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
risen beyond the magical 100,000 mark. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Andrew Neil, who remained in London, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
held a champagne reception at The Dorchester. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
But not everyone was inclined to raise a glass to the editor in chief | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
and his bold, new vision. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
I was spiked for three months. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
That is, everything you write is not published. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
I had a weekly column, it was spiked every week. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
I came under a lot of pressure to | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
publish everything that George Bush said, no matter how irrelevant. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
And it wasn't just staff. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Andrew Neil seemed to relish winding up civic Scotland. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
If he thought the schools weren't good enough, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
he would really criticise the teachers' unions and the sort of, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
the consensus which still governed Scottish education, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
even if that annoyed a lot of the teachers, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
who were obviously a big part of The Scotsman's readership. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
He started writing about why the Educational Institute of Scotland | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
was all wrong to be going on strike, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
they were a bunch of big girls' blouses and | 0:43:09 | 0:43:10 | |
should get back to work and do what they were told. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
And when you alienate a constituency like that, it lets you know. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
He was right about a lot of things, you know - | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
he was right that the education system wasn't as good as we thought | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
it was, for example. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
The problem was that if you wanted to persuade people, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
bring them onto your side, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
that wasn't going to happen overnight. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Andrew didn't have the patience for that evolving. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
He wanted to say, "Listen to me, wake up, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
"you know, get a grip, get involved in this." | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
Eventually, the regular readers in Edinburgh began to get the sense | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
that under Andrew Neil, their paper didn't love them any more. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
I remember the phrase being used, you know, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
"We must tackle the Scottish establishment." | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
But actually, The Scotsman WAS, in a sense, the Scottish establishment in, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
I think, the best, best sense, you know, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
it represented the majority view of its readers. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
I remember hearing somebody saying, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
"I'm stopping reading The Scotsman now, it's The Herald from now on." | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
By 2002, more and more readers were deserting The Scotsman. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
And in The Scotsman newsroom, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
it was a chaotic and confusing time as the paper went through eight | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
editors in nine years. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
We've had very shouty editors, we've had less shouty editors, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
we've had calmer ones, we've had mad ones. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
It changed quite a lot and it didn't matter as much because Andrew Neil | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
was effectively editor in chief, but it's a sign of turbulence for any | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
publication if it loses so many editors. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
The journalists were unhappy. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
The circulation began to fall. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
The Scotsman changed from broadsheet to tabloid - I mean, compact. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:59 | |
Then, in 2005, ten years after they'd arrived, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
the Barclay brothers and Andrew Neil left town, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
selling The Scotsman to its current owners, Johnston Press. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
When the Barclays bought that company for 90-odd million, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
including the building, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
they sold it for 160 million without the building. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
It was a phenomenal success. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
The Andrew Neil years were over, but his legacy remains contested. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
Critics feel that the once-loyal readers lost faith in their paper | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
and it was the beginning of the end of The Scotsman... | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
I think Andrew killed The Scotsman. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
..whilst believers point out that all Scottish papers declined and | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
The Scotsman's market share went up. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
Did this kind of abrasive tone served to undermine The Scotsman? | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
And I think the answer there is, just look at the figures - I mean, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
this is a paper which while he was overseeing it broke the 100,000 mark, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
and after he left, the sales really started to go down. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
He was just a guy in a hurry and that wasn't going to work, actually, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
in Edinburgh, which has a fantastically... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
A fantastic ability to be resistant to anything somebody wants them to | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
do, if they don't want to do it. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
He attempted to take The Scotsman and twist it politically right round | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
towards a fiercely Unionist and Conservative point of view and while | 0:46:21 | 0:46:26 | |
twisting it round, he just broke its neck. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
For over a century, The Scotsman's news, arts, editorial, letters, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
features have been coloured by the question of Home Rule. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
It's not a new question. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
Independence, here we come! | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
The national question is one that has dominated coverage over | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
100 years at least. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
If you go back to the 1940s, the 1920s, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
it's there as well and The Scotsman was there in the thick of that and | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
you have to be - you've got to be - | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
because it's about Scotland's future and if The Scotsman newspaper isn't | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
about Scotland's future then what's the point in the newspaper? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
In the 1979 referendum for a devolved administration, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
The Scotsman was the Scottish paper who took up the cause with gusto. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
Its position in the '70s was very different. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
It was seen as being bold. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
It gave the paper a purpose, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
which is in many ways very good, you know, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
we had something we were fighting for and we believed in. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
And from the Unionist side of the argument, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
or those who didn't want an assembly in Edinburgh, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
The Scotsman was seen as the enemy. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
But when the results came in... | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
and Scotland was denied an assembly, the paper was heartbroken. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
People were pretty dispirited. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
We maybe got it wrong and maybe we were out of touch with the mood | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
elsewhere in Scotland. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
The morale at the paper just collapsed. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
I remember on the day of the referendum, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
talking to Tory MP Teddy Taylor and he said, "I was thinking of | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
"coming to North Bridge and standing outside | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
"and waving a Union Jack outside the office, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
"what do you think would happen?" | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
And I said, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
"Teddy, I think Eric Mackay himself might come and throw you off the bridge." | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
For the next 18 years, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:28 | |
political power was concentrated in London, and civic Scotland | 0:48:28 | 0:48:33 | |
vented its political frustration on the pages of The Paper Thistle. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
I think there was a sense, you might say, we had a conceit of ourselves, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
that we had almost a constitutional role at that time. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
There was no parliament and particularly after the 1979 referendum, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
Scotland was kind of off the agenda. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Thatcherism was in full flow and I think we all kind of felt that we | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
were the guardians of Scottish debate. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
It wasn't until 1997, when New Labour were elected, that Scotland | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
was granted another referendum to re-establish a parliament in Edinburgh. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
And this time the people of Scotland and the national paper of Scotland | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
spoke with one voice. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
The Scotsman said yes to both questions. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
It was most eloquently for it. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
After a long history of arguing for a parliament, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
when it was reconvened in 1999, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
the Andrew Neil-era Scotsman was relentlessly scathing. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
It's certainly the case that there was no cosying up to the Labour guys | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
who were in power at the time. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
And the biggest scandal of devolution, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
the saga of the Scottish Parliament building, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
was unfolding right in front of their noses. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
You could argue that The Scotsman didn't go hard enough on that debacle. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
They let it go far too long without getting stuck into it and it was | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
actually happening on their doorstep. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
You just had to walk across the road and look at the building site and | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
there it was. And you could see things were going wrong. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
In the new millennium, the parliament found its feet. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
Moderate political power in Edinburgh had been secured, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
something The Scotsman had been advocating for over a century. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
But now it was the paper itself that was looking vulnerable. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
By the time the 2014 independence referendum came around, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
The Scotsman had lost about half its readership. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
At a time when the paper couldn't afford to lose more readers, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
it was required to choose a side in a passionate debate. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
Would the self-proclaimed national paper of Scotland join the chorus of | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
voices calling for Scotland to become an independent nation? | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
I gave it a lot of thought and I decided that I had to be the one who | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
wrote the leader, and to get peace I got up at five in the morning and | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
came into the office at five in the morning and sat in the empty office, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
with a blank screen, for three or four days and hammered it out. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
And it took a long time to write, it took a long time to agonise over, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
it took a long time | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
because there were many different things, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
many different parts of it that you had to think about. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
Because I was really conscious that it had to appear right, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
that I had to maintain the authority, because it wasn't my position, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
it was The Scotsman's position, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
so you're trying to maintain the authority and the credibility and, yeah, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
I've never felt that more than I did that night. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Scotland's national paper, based in Scotland's capital, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
said... | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
no. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
And with the debate so passionate and the country so split, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
it was inevitable that many of those who were sympathetic to | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
The Paper Thistle felt betrayed. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
The Scotsman seemed to be standing against the tide, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
and I think it was a great shame, you know, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
for The Scotsman of all papers to find itself on the "No" side of the | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
argument, albeit some columnists within it were not, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
but it just seemed to me crazy. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
I would see it as a great sign of weakness if The Scotsman were to say | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
"Public opinion has shifted, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
"therefore we're going to shift our position on the national question." | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
I think the readers expect integrity and honesty. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
I think it would be a complete betrayal of its history and its | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
principles and of its values. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
Perhaps the most worrying aspect for the paper was that its opinion | 0:52:21 | 0:52:26 | |
didn't seem to matter. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
My overwhelming sense, as much as a citizen as an analyst, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
was that | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
during the referendum, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
possibly the most exciting social experience any of us will have, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
you know, in a lifetime, nothing happened. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
You can say to me, "Oh, well, The Scotsman came out on the side of unionism." | 0:52:45 | 0:52:52 | |
Really? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
But it didn't really... | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
..have any impact. You know, at one point, one of the websites - | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
Wings Over Scotland, I think... | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
They... Their online audience for a very short period was higher than | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
The Scotsman's. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
For centuries, The Scotsman was one of the few voices arguing that | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
Scotland deserved more Home Rule. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
But it is now, rightly or wrongly, seen as a bastion of unionism. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
The final chapter of The Scotsman's 200-year tale is the toughest to tell. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
At the end of the 1990s, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
The Scotsman was selling over 80,000 copies a day. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
In 2005, it sold on average 65,000 copies per day. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
By 2010, its average circulation went down to 45,000 per day. | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
Last year, circulation was hovering at just over 20,000 copies per day. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:08 | |
You used to say that when a newspaper's circulation was falling, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
it would bottom out and there would be a point at which, you know, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
people will take this newspaper come what may and those would be the | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
readers who, you know, would buy it just for the obituaries, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
the TV schedules and the crossword. And so you'd have a base readership. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
But there doesn't seem to be any bottoming out at the moment. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
Since 2005, The Scotsman has been owned by Johnston Press. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
They moved out of their purpose-built office in 2013, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
staff and resources have been cut... | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
..and the paper has suffered. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Whether in the current climate | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
certain kinds of newspaper can survive as newspapers, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
I have my doubts. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
It's difficult to see the paper in its current form, under its current | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
ownership, surviving for five years. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
I suspect it might even be a lot less than that. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
Faced with declining circulation, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
the great hope of all newspapers is to make money by selling adverts to | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
those getting their news online. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
What we do hasn't changed - we tell people stories, we report events, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:26 | |
we analyse things, we have comment - that hasn't altered. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
The only thing that's altered is how people access that and how they pay | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
for the access to it. We do have bigger digital audiences, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
we've got a great digital audience, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
our audience now is bigger than it's been for a long time. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
I think I'm right in saying that consumption of news on the internet, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
it accounts for about 1% of the time spent on the internet, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
across all news channels. It might be one and a half, but it's certainly not two. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
So what we have to do is we have to find an economic model that | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
understands that we have to deliver things slightly differently. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
I'm quite confident, quite optimistic. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
For 200 years, The Scotsman has told Scotland's stories. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:11 | |
It's captured our greatest moments, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
sympathised in times of national sadness. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
It has provoked, charmed and reported stories big and small. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:23 | |
For every historic headline there are thousands of wee stories - | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
daily slices of Scotland that would otherwise be unrecorded. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
On its pages, Scotland has had a passionate debate about who we are | 0:56:31 | 0:56:36 | |
and what kind of country we hope to be. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
And the paper's survival has now become part of that national story. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
If The Times of London was in dire straits or The Guardian was facing | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
closure or facing potentially mortal times, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:54 | |
it would be a matter of great interest to the UK political establishment. | 0:56:54 | 0:57:00 | |
I think that the viability and continued survival of The Scotsman | 0:57:00 | 0:57:06 | |
is of that magnitude. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:07 | |
There is a view of the world in Scotland | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
which is different from the view of the world in Manchester or London or | 0:57:10 | 0:57:15 | |
Paris. Scots look out for the world... We've got a Scottish culture, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
which is different from other people's culture. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
It's incredibly important that Scotland has voices in print | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
which represent the best of Scottish thinking, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
the best of the Scottish worldview, and that, in my view, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
ought to be The Scotsman. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
The words... The Scotsman... It's got this wonderful kind of romantic majesty | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
to it and I think there will always be a future for this newspaper, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
no matter. Financial fortunes may come and go, but it's not going to | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
be a newspaper that disappears, no way. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
Can The Paper Thistle sail on for another century? | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
The future of The Scotsman remains to be written. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
I'm really confident The Scotsman will make its 300th anniversary. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
So the Thistle will go on and the Thistle will stay and the Thistle will | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
be there for at least another 100 years. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
The Scotsman was a big part of my life. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
And...I was sad to leave. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
It was like a divorce. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
And it's still like a divorce. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:23 | |
I would weep if it wasn't there. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
MUSIC: Something To Believe In by King Creosote | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
# Promised me a feeling | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
# Something to believe in | 0:58:37 | 0:58:43 | |
# Promised me a feeling | 0:58:43 | 0:58:50 | |
# And I promise to be real. # | 0:58:52 | 0:58:56 |