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There are strange types in Britain that follow you around | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
wherever you go... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
..telling you what to eat, what to drink... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
what to see and where to go. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
These types are so ubiquitous they're almost invisible. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
We don't even notice that they are there... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
..and yet they are alongside us... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
..in the background and foreground of everything we do, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
every single day... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
..creating a backdrop to Britain for the past century. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
They are, of course, typefaces - | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
the way in which we read a word - | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
on a shop front, a sign, a newspaper or a screen... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
and two types in particular are so fundamentally British, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
you're so used to them that you haven't even noticed them | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
all around you. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
They are Johnston... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
and Gill Sans. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
In this programme, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
we will reveal how these typefaces have been scripting | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
our lives for decades... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
..created by two unlikely and influential characters, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:40 | |
one of whom had his reputation overshadowed | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
by disturbing revelations about his personal life. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
This is the story of Edward Johnston and Eric Gill | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
and their two types of Britain. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Words are all around us, everywhere we turn, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
guiding us, informing us and tempting us. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
But every word surrounding us is in a typeface. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
I'm Mark Ovenden, and you might say I'm a bit of a typeface enthusiast. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
Yes, they really do exist - | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
and why not? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
Typefaces are so important and shape the way we see the world, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
something that I've always found fascinating. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Typefaces nowadays are usually - and wrongly - referred to as fonts. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
A font actually depicts the size and weight of letters. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Whereas the typeface is the important bit - letter design. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Choosing the right typeface for texts | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
is more important than you might think, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
because how lettering looks conveys the emotion of the word. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Imagine how differently we might perceive | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
all sorts of important messages and brands | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
if they were in the wrong typeface. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
As we rumble around on public transport, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
we're constantly bombarded by messages for products or services - | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
but how can we differentiate between the crucial signs | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
that tell us where to get off the train or where to go on holiday? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
We may think that we're quite sophisticated | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
but, actually, how we spot the difference | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
is the result of good design and really clever typography - | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
but it wasn't always like that. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
In the early 1900s, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
London and its traffic were growing at an alarming rate. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
To counter this problem, the Underground was expanding, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
with new tunnels deep below the West End... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
..and extended lines reaching further out to the suburbs. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Paid advertising on Tube station walls was nothing new, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and a useful source of additional income... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
..but it was all becoming a bit chaotic. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Enamel and hand-painted signs and flyposting | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
were the equivalent of today's website pop-ups | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
or endless advert breaks on the telly - | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and at railway stations, especially those of the Underground, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
these ads littered every available wall. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
The Underground was already in the midst of a redesign. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Architect Leslie Green had created | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
an arts and crafts inspired decorative feel | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
to many of the new stations in 1906... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
..but this had not solved the signage and advertising confusion. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Much of this work is still visible | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
and has also been preserved in pristine condition | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
in now unused parts of the Underground. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Well, Mike, it's great to be down in these abandoned tunnels | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
underneath Piccadilly Circus. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Can you tell us something about the signage we can still see here? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Indeed. What you're looking at here is signage that dates | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
from the opening of this station in 1906, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
when the Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines opened here, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and, of course, this is one of the traditional ceramic lettered tiling, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
in this slightly serif typeface design by Leslie Green, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
the architect who built these stations - | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
but, of course, it's really very contemporary of that period. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
It's a slightly soft arts and crafts typeface. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
These little arrows, particularly, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
are probably the giveaway in some respects. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
A serif is a small flourish at the end of a letter, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
rather like the stroke of a brush. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
The Underground was using this style of serif lettering | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
on much of the railway signage... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
..but a typeface which was different at every station | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
didn't make the network look unified. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
They were obviously trying a simple, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
similar style of lettering, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
but didn't quite manage, actually, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
to get consistency across their stations. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I think that was due to the fact | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
that several different manufacturers made these ceramic tiles, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
so I think there was a subtle variation - | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
but they're simple. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
The way they're laid out and the use of the lettering on them, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
that actually allows a consistency of approach and legibility | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
and at the same time subliminally delivering the brand. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Frank Pick was in charge of publicity | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
for the London Underground Group at this time. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
After years of signs being made in a variety of serifs and sans serifs | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
by the many companies running services, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
he realised that customers could not clearly differentiate | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
between the station signage and adverts for other companies, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
as it was all in this chaotic mix of styles. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Frank Pick intended to change this. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Pick began to commission scores of commercial artists, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
what we would now call graphic designers, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
to come up with posters to extol the virtues | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
of using the Tube in off-peak times | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
to explore London's edges | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
or to come into the West End for their shopping. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
But he knew that he wanted the lettering to be really distinctive, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
to stand out from the graphic noise of all the advertising, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
to be straightforward, clear and, in his words, manly. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
A lot of the designs, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
specifically on the advertising posters | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
that were commissioned early on, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
were beginning to stand out in this style. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
One from 1908 highlights much of Frank Pick's vision - | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
a bright, confident poster | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
showcasing all the essential elements of taking the Underground. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
Here you have those red-brick tiles of Leslie Green, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
the Underground logo with the large U and the big D, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
there's even a silhouette of London in there | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
and the map and a couple of catchphrases - | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
but the problem was all the lettering was different. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
It just didn't look like a unified organisation. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
However, everything was about to change. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
Because a lot of the stations were styled by this | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
arts-and-crafts-based design, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
much of the typography used at the stations and by advertisers | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
of the day were in a serif. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Frank Pick had the idea to radically change the lettering | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
to a sans serif, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
which meant removing the decorative kicks from the characters. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
He wanted a typeface that would be instantly associated | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
with the Underground, wherever it appeared, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
so every time you saw it you knew where you were. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
Since the sans serif he envisaged did not exist at that time, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
he had no option - he would have to commission one for himself. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
Luckily for Pick, London was buzzing with creativity in the early 1900s, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
and a young man whose passion was the ancient art of calligraphy | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
was about to catch his eye. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
His name - Edward Johnston. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
At this time, Johnston was lecturing calligraphy | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
at Central School of Art and Design in London. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Catherine, what was Johnston's lecturing style like? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
By all accounts, he was a real showman. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
We have a set of photographs taken by one of his students, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
it just shows his blackboard absolutely packed full | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
of kind of letterforms and different styles of letters, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
some really quite flamboyant and exuberant ones. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
So you just kind of get a sense of the richness | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
of what it must have been to have been a part of those classes, yeah. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Edward Johnston was also known in the arts and crafts circuit, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and it was here where he met Frank Pick, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
who was fascinated by his work. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Given that he was a calligrapher, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
that was quite an odd choice for Frank Pick to choose him, really, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
wasn't it, for this modern sans serif he wanted. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
I do wonder whether or not Pick took a punt on Johnston. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
I mean, he was an odd choice. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
He was embarking on something new, he wasn't an expert, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
he was just opening out a territory, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
and I've always thought that was interesting, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
that he got a job as the head of something | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
and he wasn't known for it, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
he wasn't really established when he got that job. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
So I think it was more just maybe a sense of excitement | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
and buzz, and maybe Pick just thought, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
"Well, I wonder what he's going to bring to this job." | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Johnston's alphabet design for London Transport | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
was an anomaly - | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
a complete contradiction to much of his teachings. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Here was a calligrapher who taught his students by chalks, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
quill and ink | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
producing this particularly neat style of block letters | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
without serifs... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
..but he still managed to encapsulate | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
some sneakily-placed calligraphic touches to many of the letters. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
When you have a broad-edge pen and you go to draw a dot of an I, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and of course it ends up as a diamond shape. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
There's your comma. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
So the punctuation, the tittle, as we call them, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
was really formed from Johnston's background | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
as a calligrapher, really. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
His knowledge of a pen and the tool and actually how you | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
start to shape letters - | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
and it still is what gives Johnston Sans | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
a real distinctiveness. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
So the way Johnston was doing it - | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
with a couple of chalks glued together - | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
is still relevant to type designers today. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Yeah, absolutely - but not just type designers, I mean, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
I'd say anybody that's working with typefaces, and who isn't? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
We're all using fonts on our computers every day. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
It's just the most easy way to demonstrate the relationship | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
between tool and letter form. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Students can identify straightaway with it. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-Also, you can rub it out. -MARK CHUCKLES | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
From 1916, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Edward Johnston's new and very different lettering was adopted | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
for publicity material across the London Underground. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
It wasn't the first sans serif invented during this time, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
but it was the first to base its letters on Roman square proportions, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
focusing on the narrow width of the strokes. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
A feeling of progress was in the air, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
a desire to clear up the messes of the past | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and build a brave new world. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Unification of London's transport system was already well on the way. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
In 1916, a man named Frank Pick, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
on behalf of the new Underground Railway Group, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
had commissioned a new sans serif typeface | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
from one of Britain's leading typographers, Edward Johnston. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
The result is the clear, bold Johnston lettering | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
that graces London's transport system. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
A truly 20th-century achievement. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
The modern concept of intellectual property | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
did not exist during this period, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
but the design was fiercely guarded by London transport. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
So much so, printers who had access to the type blocks were forbidden | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
to use them on anything else. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
The typeface was a complete success - | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
but it wasn't exactly a life-changing experience | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
for Edward Johnston. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
After Johnston had delivered his first alphabets to Frank Pick, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
he just carried on working at Central School, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
he didn't really work on any other typefaces, did he? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I don't think he set out to be a great type designer | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
and I don't think he set out to be famous | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
or to achieve in that kind of way. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
He was just really happy with his ideas, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
with finding out and studying lettering. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Such was the success of the lettering for the Underground, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Johnston later went on to design a condensed version | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
of his typeface for the bus destination boards, as well... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
..but with this new unified brand spreading across London, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
Pick needed assurance that no-one would deviate from it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
What was needed was some kind of easy-to-follow instruction book | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
that everybody could copy, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
and that's accepting what London Transport did in 1938 | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
with the Standard Signs Manual - | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
the first time a corporate identity manual had ever been created | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
for any transport organisation in the world. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
And here we have all the elements of what should exist on a sign. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Here's the logo at the top. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Underneath, all the station names, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
even including what colour each of the lines would be in. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Thanks to Frank Pick's vision and Edward Johnston's style, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
transport in London now had its own brand. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
The signage stood out from the rest of the graphic noise | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
to form a clear and concise wayfinding system, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
making it a lot easier to get out. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Johnston's creation defined London Transport. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Everywhere you looked, Johnston was looking back at you. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
So no matter whether your journey was from Ongar to Kilburn, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
you would know that the whole way would be guided by this beautiful, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
aesthetically pleasing Johnston typeface. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
London Transport jealously guarded Johnston's creation in its entirety, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
which meant London was exactly where it would stay. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Johnston himself left the Big Smoke | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
to work out of the small East Sussex village of Ditchling, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
where there is a museum showcasing much of his work. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
I've seen London Transport posters my whole life | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
and admired the lettering, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
but this is the first time I've ever held | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
some of the lower case wooden letters - | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
and it's just fantastic to see the calligraphic influences that are | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
brought out by some of these letters. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
Just look at that big swish underneath the comma, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and the tittle, the dot, above the I - | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Johnston's absolutely famous diamond... | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
and this double-storey, or eyeglass, G. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
The attention to detail, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
the balance that he managed to eventually work | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
into the proportions of that G are just beautiful. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
This different and calligraphy-inspired design | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
changed the way London looked forever... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
..but where did Johnston's vision and ideas come from? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
To find out, I've come to meet his grandson, Andrew, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
to examine Edward Johnston's beginnings. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
He had a very strange start in life. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
He was born in 1872 on a ranch in Uruguay. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
It was quite an unconventional sort of childhood. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
His father was quite a strange figure. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
He was from this deeply religious family | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
but he corresponded with Darwin, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
he had quite sort of revolutionary ideas | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
that children should do what they want. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
The result was Edward was mainly brought up by his aunt, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
who was very sweet but terribly neurotic | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
and worried all the time about him catching cold, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
and so kept him basically indoors | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
and his father kept him uneducated | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
for most of his childhood life, really. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
You would not think that going to a calligrapher, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
sitting at this desk, using a quill pen - | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
how is he going to give you one of the world's best-known typefaces? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
A most unlikely figure to then become a modern graphic designer. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
-ARCHIVE: -The very way the word is written | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
is like the familiar voice of a friend. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
The look of London Transport is its personality. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
The triumphant, unified design that Johnston had transported | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
to tubes, trams and buses wasn't just in the typeface. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Frank Pick later asked him to redesign the Underground logo, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
known as the bull's-eye or roundel. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
After the success of the Underground type, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
I think Pick saw that he could do other work for him. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
One thing that he looked at was the bull's-eye, as it was called - | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
the solid red disc with some rather clunky sans serif lettering | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
across it on a bar. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Not an easy commission, and Pick was not an easy man to deal with, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
but he did succeed in producing something that Pick liked, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
which was to hollow out the solid disc into a ring, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
place the lettering on a very carefully proportioned bar, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
put ribbons above the lettering and below the lettering, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
with a big U and big D, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
and you've got a balanced logo that still survives to this day, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
really, in modified form, and was a runaway success. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Johnston's designs and masterful teaching methods | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
were inspirational to many of his students. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
It was in the classes at Central Saint Martins | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
where a young architect turned stonecutter | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
named Eric Gill first fell under Johnston's spell. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Eric Gill was well-known in art circles | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
for much of his sketches and stone carvings. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
His early works had gained a lot of attention | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
for the manner in which they contained | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
both religious and sexual connotations. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Gill attended evening classes at Central Saint Martins College | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
in London to learn another art form - calligraphy. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
He became transfixed by his lecturer, Edward Johnston, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
and had even assisted him on his commission for the Underground. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
Gill remained inspired by Johnston's success and began experimenting | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
to create his own sans serif alphabet. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
A friend asked him to paint a sign for a Bristol book shop. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
This would effectively be the first major exposure of a new style | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
that had never been seen outside of London. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Historically, printing words in books and newspapers | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
was a skilled craft. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Typesetters assembled texts by hand | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
from individual wooden or metal letters, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
but in the late 1800s, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
a mechanical method called casting was invented | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
that punched out the tiny letters from strips of metal. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
One of the key companies revolutionising this trade | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
was called Monotype, based in Redhill in Surrey. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
To make larger display-sized headlines for posters and adverts, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
they created the super-caster, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
which could automatically compile letters | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
into whole sentences from molten metal. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Monotype commissioned type designers | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
to make alphabets for their machines, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
then licensed the rights to use them. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
So every time a company used one of their typefaces | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
on adverts or signs, Monotype would be paid a fee... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
..but they were on the lookout for something new and exciting | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
with a slightly Art Deco feel - | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
and they were about to find it. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Gill's new lettering was spotted on the book shop sign | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
by a consultant called Stanley Morison, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
who was working for Monotype. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
He was keen to commission something in this style | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
that the corporation could license. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
It was the dawn of Gill's new typeface | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
that would alter the way Britain looked forever. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Not bad. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
When working on early designs for London Underground, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Johnston was aided by his student Eric Gill, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
famously handing him 10% of the fee for his assistance. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Gill's experimental design on the Cleverdon book store | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
adopted a Johnston-inspired sans serif. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
He worked fast on his new commission, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
and transposed the letters he had prepared for the shop, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
turning them into a fully formed alphabet... | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
..but he didn't give Johnston a penny. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Here it is. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
This delicate piece of brown paper lives here | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
in London's St Bride Printing Library, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
hand-inked by Gill himself, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
which shows just how revolutionary, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
radically clean and light his typeface was going to be, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
compared to the old, fussy serifs of the past. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
All Gill and Monotype needed now was a customer, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
a big customer. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
By chance, the London North Eastern Railway, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
who were then the second largest train company in Britain, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
were looking to rebrand. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Cecil Dandridge, the LNER advertising manager, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
had seen how the radical sans serif design | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
had brought clarity and authority to the London transport system. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
He quickly ordered the Johnston-inspired lettering | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
of Gill Sans from Monotype | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
to use across the entire LNER network... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
..including one of their most iconic locomotives... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
..the Mallard. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
By the middle of the 1930s, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
the LNER had used Gill Sans typeface on every conceivable surface, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
and when this magnificent blue beast | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
broke the world speed record in 1938, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
pictures of its nameplate in Gill Sans lettering | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
went around the world. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Gill must have been thrilled | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
that his typeface now donned the Mallard locomotive. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
As a reward for the success of his work, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Cecil Dandridge invited Gill aboard one of their other famous trains - | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
the Flying Scotsman. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
Unlike Johnston, who had inspired his design, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Gill's lettering escaped the confines of London. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
It's thanks to the railways | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
that this beautifully balanced sans serif typeface | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
got transported to every single corner of Britain - | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
from Land's End to John O'Groats. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Well, more accurately, from Penzance to Wick, where the railways ran. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
It wasn't just the station signs that extolled this new design, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
timetables, information posters, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
even the dining car menu were all printed in Gill's radical typeface. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
The LNER effectively popularised Gill Sans in Britain, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
forcing all the printing companies | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
who worked for them to buy the typeface in - | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
and once they had it, they used it for everything else. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Gill Sans was sleek, modern, streamlined - | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
just like the record-breaking Mallard. They were a perfect match. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Other mainline train companies attempted to emulate the success | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
of the LNER's brave and smart new look, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
adopting Gill Sans for some of their advertising too. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
This made it the go-to typeface for many printing companies | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
across the country. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Turned out not too bad, really. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
Just look at this. It really shows the clarity of Gill's thinking | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
in the design of this typeface. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Look at that perfectly circular letter O - | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
and the sloping edge of the T, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
a very distinctive feature of Gill Sans. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
A clearness and clarity of a sans serif like this | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
had never really been seen outside of London. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
But how exactly did Gill's new countrywide design differ | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
from Johnston's London-based one? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Gill famously said that he thought that his alphabet | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
improved upon his master's, so it's interesting to compare the two. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
This is Johnston's capital R, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
supported by a completely straight leg, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
almost like a piece of furniture holding up the bowl. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
On Gill's R, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
it's propped up by this wonderfully graceful sprung tail, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
inspired by Roman and Trojan lettering. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
I wonder whether maybe Gill has the edge on this letter. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Looking at the Gill Sans alphabet next to the Johnston one, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
the untrained eye could easily mistake them as the same typeface. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
However, they are anything but. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Gill used a lot of symmetry in his letters and numerals, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
like this perfectly balanced 3, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
which could almost be an 8 chopped in half. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Johnston's capital Es and Fs have a much shorter middle crossbar, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
whereas Gill has them parallel with the top of the letter. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
It was exactly the straightforward clarity Monotype were looking for. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
They were so pleased with Gill's design, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
they ordered alternate weights and improvements to it. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
He went on to create several other typefaces too, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
although they weren't anywhere near as successful as Gill Sans. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Thanks to Gill's success, Monotype wanted him on a retainer - | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
and here's the contract. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
"Gill shall deliver one new typeface, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
"comprising both Roman and italic characters", | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
for the princely sum of £200 a year. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Doesn't sound a lot, but in today's money, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
that would be more like £10,000. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
But by the late 1930s, Britain was at war. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
With the threat of Nazi invasion, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
rationing and austerity were starting to bite. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
In an attempt to boost morale, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
an accessible and straightforward typeface | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
was required to use on much of the spirit-lifting propaganda | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
and information posters... | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
..a type that most of the printing companies | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
already had easy access to - | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Gill Sans. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
Edward Johnston and Eric Gill both passed away having witnessed | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
their creations dominate the British landscape. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Gill, who had remained in the public eye for most of his working life, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
died of lung cancer in 1939. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Johnston, who had largely retired from public view, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
died in his home in Ditchling in 1944... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
..but the fruits of their work were very much still alive, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
turning them both into cult figures in the arts and crafts world. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
However, Johnston and Gill, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
although close friends and clearly inspirational to each other, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
could not have been more different. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
The contrasts are evident when examining some of the sculpture | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
and drawings created by Gill throughout his life. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
He was, on the surface, | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
a deeply creative and highly respected figure | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
in religious and artistic circles. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
But behind closed doors, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
Gill lived a life of sexual obsession | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
that mirrored much of his art. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
Gill wasn't a straightforwardly moralistic person. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
I believe he was genuinely religious, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
but his personal life was extremely complex. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
Cultural historian Fiona MacCarthy began researching | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Eric Gill in the 1980s for a biography on his intricate artworks, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
and uncovered details of his morally destructive life. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
A lot of the work is religious in content, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
but then there's this underlying sense of the erotic, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
because Gill was passionately interested in sex, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
and one gets this sort of curious balance in his work. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
He was a very bizarre person, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
a very extreme person - | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
but fascinating to study. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
He was working on Prospero and Ariel in the 1930s, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
the great well-known carving outside the BBC building, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
and he was by then really very much in the public eye. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
People were seeing him up there on the scaffold, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
because he was a hand carver. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Gill couldn't decide whether he wanted to be this humble workman | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
or a superstar. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
He was against commerce, but then took lucrative contracts. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:38 | |
He was profoundly religious, but deeply immoral. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
So he is quite a hard character to get to grips with. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
I think Gill couldn't resist being a celebrity. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
He had this longing for public adulation, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
but he also couldn't resist shocking people. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
He'd make wild statements about politics and sex | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
and man's most precious, ornament, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
which was of course his penis. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
He couldn't resist the controversy. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Fiona gained access to the archive of Gill's personal effects, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
including his diary... | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
..and the disturbing self-confessed entries | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
she found there were to shock the public | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
and tarnish much of his work thereafter. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
I found a lot about the private Gill, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
because he was very uninhabited in what he wrote down in his diaries, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:39 | |
and I found a whole history of love affairs, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
of incestuous relationships with his sisters, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
incestuous relationships with his children, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
sexual experiments with the family dog, even, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
because Gill was very, very obsessed with sex, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
and the functioning of the body, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
and these experiments were all noted down | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
in this extraordinary, meticulous way in his diaries. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
He was, as one of his friends once said, mad about sex. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
He could never resist the opportunity. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Even though the diaries were written 50 years prior, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
the criminal and amoral details listed throughout | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
have led many to believe you cannot separate Gill's art | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
from his depravities, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
and that knowledge of his terrible misdeeds | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
undermines the aesthetic value of his work. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
I knew when I unearthed this material | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
that if I wrote the biography that I felt I needed to write, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
bringing out all these aberrations of behaviour, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
his sexual behaviour, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
I was going to upset deeply a lot of the people who revered Gill most. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
The revelations of Gill's private life led to many critics | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
calling for his work to be removed from public view. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
It was, they argued, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
impossible to appreciate his art | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
knowing it was produced by the same hands that abused his children. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Art creations such as the 1923 print titled Girl In The Bath | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
were viewed in a very different light | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
when learning that it was in fact modelled | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
on his 13-year-old daughter. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
We're now more and more aware of the problems of child abuse, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:41 | |
the terrible problems that affect so many people in such desperate ways. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
There is a resistance to looking at Gill's art with any seriousness | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
once you know the details of his personal life, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
particularly the incest with his children, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
and I understand where these people are coming from, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
but I certainly don't think that one can write off the wonderful work | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
that he did because of the things | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
that one has to disapprove of in Gill's personal life. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
Despite campaigners wanting Gill's sculptures removed, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
his typeface has not been spurned in quite the same way - | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
possibly because it's a less emotive or suggestive art form. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
It remains ubiquitous on modern word processing software, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
and is still used by brands and businesses the world over. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
It is instead the flaws within the design of the lettering | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
that's been the subject of modern scrutiny and criticism, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
arguing that the sizing and shape of the typeface is not user friendly. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
I've come to meet senior lecturer Ben Archer | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
at the Leicester Print Workshop, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
who finds Gill's work slightly, well, mismatched. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
Ben, Gill described his work as foolproof. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
What's your take on it? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
Not quite foolproof. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
It's a less than ideal typeface made by an idealist. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Johnston, as a calligrapher, was used to working two-dimensionally, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
on the flat. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
Gill's got a more organic feel about the whole thing. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
His curves are very sensuous. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
That, I guess, is about him being a letter carver and a sculptor, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
working with his hands, moulding shapes, I think. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
But when examining similar-shaped letters in Gill's alphabet, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
it highlights what some see as weaker elements to the design. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
Here we have a lower case L, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
a numeral 1 and an upper case I. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
They're just all identical, aren't they? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
It must have been very confusing. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
The three Is, as we're now calling them. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
So, you could have something that looks like it's "ill", | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
or it's a Roman three, you're not really to know. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Although greatly inspired by Johnston, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Gill did a lot of simplifying and refining to his letters. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Johnston's numeral 1, here, with its shaved, sloping top, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
is a lot more distinguishable from the flat top version of Gill's 1, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
or upper-case letter I and lower-case L. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
To critics like Ben, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
many of the issues he has with Gill's alphabet | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
stem from how difficult they are to distinguish between each other. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Take these lower case letters of P, Q, D and B. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
When thrown together in a box of type... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
..they are quite easy to mix up when they look pretty much the same | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
upside down and back to front. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
For a typeface, to a nation of shopkeepers, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
it's quite a serious problem. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
For all that we know that one was | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
taking the other as the inspiration, you know, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
they are very different things - | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
and, of course, their histories lead in entirely different directions. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
Gill Sans became this utilitarian, quotidian sort of super face - | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
The Helvetica of England - | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
and Johnston was literally locked up and left underground | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
for nearly a century, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
you know, protected and not freely available. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Even after their deaths, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Johnston and Gill's creations were still subtly encapsulating Britain. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
By the middle of the 20th-century, it was hard to miss | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
either Johnston or Gill's typefaces. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Johnston was entirely synonymous with London, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
from the tickets to the signage, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
the train liveries to the bus stops - | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
but as the country approached the late '50s, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
the first cracks began to surface. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Johnston's typeface, in particular, had a flaw. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
As London Transport demanded more from the text on their publicity, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
it forced printers and designers to push the boundaries. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
The Johnston typeface, designed for wood in the age of steam, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
was becoming unfit for purpose in the white heat of technology. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
London Transport needed it available in a much greater range of sizes. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
Because it was so inflexible, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
London Transport began using other typefaces | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
for much of its printed material. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
For the first time in 30 years, timetables, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
adverts and posters were not set in Johnston. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
Printing technology was advancing rapidly, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
and the old stalwarts of wartime and austerity | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
were beginning to look a bit jaded - | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
and, even worse, for Gill Sans, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
it was becoming a victim of its own success. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
Designers of the day were looking for something fresh. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Gill Sans and Johnston were being shunned by the country. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
Now replaced by more modern and chic designs. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Typefaces like Helvetica became far more popular. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
Its letters were easier for printers to resize and for Britain, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
entering its summer of love, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
it didn't have the connotations of wartime. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Johnston and Gill Sans were now becoming just a little bit uncool. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
Associated with officialdom, bossing people around, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
telling them where to go - | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
but they weren't entirely dead. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
One London-born designer was about to create an album cover for the | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
biggest pop group in the world - | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
and he was kind of inspired these big, red beauties. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
OK, so the front cover of Abbey Road had no typography at all, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
but the back featured the road name in ceramic letters, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
and the track listing was deliberately chosen by the designer | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
John Kosh to be Gill Sans. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
I'm a Londoner. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
I guess I was influenced without knowing it by Johnston, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
because it's all around me, surrounding me, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
on buses that would go by, on the Tube trains. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
Barred from using Johnston, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
which was exclusively owned and protected by London transport, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
Kosh turned to Gill Sans. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
As a display face I thought it was perfect, free of use, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
but I guess I didn't realise that until I got to art school | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
and we just started experimenting, and my favourite font was Gill. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
I didn't realise that it had fallen out of fashion, to be honest, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
I just thought it was a great, legible typeface. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
John Kosh worked for Apple Records in the 1960s, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
where he was responsible for design and publicity. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
He was renowned for not letting the modern typeface trends of the day | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
dominate his work. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
To be honest, I just started playing with... | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
Helvetica, in my early days in design, seemed to be too bland - | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
but Gill somehow just was a great display face. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Large, you can make it very stark - | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
but for text, with those ascenders and descenders, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
you could just really read it without eyestrain. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
And on Abbey Road, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
it wasn't just the choice of an outdated typeface that | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
gave it an unusual look. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
My claim to fame with Abbey Road was the fact that I did not display type | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
of The Beatles on the cover, or Abbey Road, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
which caused a lot of consternation at the record company at the time - | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
but, if you notice that the lyrics and all the typography, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
they're all in Gill because it's very legible, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
and when we got round to Let It Be, Let It Be was just all Gill. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
Right from the start. The Beatles didn't know I was using Gill Sans, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
or probably even really care. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
They didn't notice, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
they were totally oblivious to what fonts I was using | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
and I just was, you know, my homage, I think, to my background - | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
and the Beatles, you know. Who came from Liverpool! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
The Electric Light Orchestra... | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Aerosmith... | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
the Eagles... | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
all Kosh designs, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
all draped in Gill Sans, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
a typeface that was dying out in the '50s and '60s was now back. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:26 | |
America seemed to be stuck on Futura, you know, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Rod Stewart's coming over and ELO's coming over and a lot of my clients | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
are coming over. Ringo. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
And I just wanted to make them feel at home somehow. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
They might not have known why, but this... | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
These are the fonts that they've grown up with or seen around them. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
When I see Gill Sans in other people's work and in my work, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
I just feel that there is a little thrill there | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
that they've chosen the right font, the right face. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
So it goes without saying that it has spread round the world. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
Gill Sans was slowly creeping back into British designs, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
now digitised by photo typesetting technology. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
By the 1980s, it was being used by many designers of the day. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
It was, of course, a decade where style was everything. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
The '80s was an interesting period. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
It was an amazing period to be in the middle | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
of this huge explosion of new music, new fashion, new art, new design. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
And some of it was technologically driven - | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
there was stuff we could do in the '80s | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
that you just couldn't do in the '70s or the '60s. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
In the '80s, it became easier | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
to change the size of type and graphics, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
thanks to the benefits of computer-aided design. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Neville Brody spent much of the 1980s as the graphic designer | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
for many of the cult magazines of the day, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
such as The Face and City Limits. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
Both of these adopted the clean elements of Gill Sans, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
but with a contemporary twist. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
We were able now to experiment with this on a regular level. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
We didn't need to be kind of highly-trained type designers, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
we could instruct something to be 10% width, for instance. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
We brought this in The Face magazine - | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
particularly with City Limits, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
it was Gill we were experimenting with. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
We felt we could just be exuberant and joyful | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
and there was absolutely nothing to lose. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
I think Gill Sans became again representative | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
of that kind of utopian idealism, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
almost an optimistic belief in what culture could bring | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
and society could bring. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:47 | |
MUSIC: TRUE FAITH by New Order | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
It bought that romantic hope for the future | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
that was so absent in the rest of society. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
This is a really good example | 0:46:02 | 0:46:03 | |
of your punching out your headline in Gill. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
The idea, really, was how many variations | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
could you get out of the same typeface | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
without having to jump fonts? | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
So you were wanting to stick with just the one typeface, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
but use it in as many different ways as possible. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
Absolutely. So here you have it kind of bold, wide spaced. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
Here you have it bold condensed. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
Upper, lower case here, you have it bold condensed, but wide spaced. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
So we're using it for so many different levels | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
of articulation and information. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
Neville's typeface inspiration started from quite a young age. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
I came across this, a book from my childhood. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
It's an encyclopaedia - | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
and then realised that this was all Gill, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
and it's Gill at a kind of super-sized setting here. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
You wouldn't normally do this. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
So what they've done is they've recognised in Gill | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
the ability to punch out and articulate content, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
and I think that must have sat somewhere in the back of my mind. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
A typeface that once had | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
unfashionable and authoritarian undertones | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
was now being used against the establishment. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
It was even at the typeface of choice | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
on many of the anti-poll tax leaflets. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
It's interesting, isn't it, that Gill's used quite a lot | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
by generally left-wing or campaigning groups, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
but you don't see a lot of it used by anybody else. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
No, the hard right tend to avoid it completely for some strange reason. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
Maybe because it has slightly softer | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
or slightly more romantic connotations. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
Whilst Gill Sans was invading the country again, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
Johnston was being virtually annihilated in London. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
London transport were using more contemporary-looking typefaces. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
Johnston's range of sizes was limited, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
and not digitised for photo typesetting, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
making it impossible to use on a computer. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
What was once the go-to choice for a clear and concise design | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
was now being substituted by other types - | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
including Gill Sans. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
Fearful for Johnston's future, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
London transport turned to design agencies | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
to try and save it from a cruel death. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
It was a job that was entrusted to a young graphic designer | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
called Eiichi Kono, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
who needed a plan to digitise it for a computerised industry. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
Johnston was originally designed by Edward Johnston | 0:48:45 | 0:48:51 | |
for just display purpose, station names, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
but London transport couldn't use for many different purposes. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:00 | |
When it's small in size, then it's not legible enough. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:07 | |
Readable enough. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Eiichi began painstakingly redesigning the typeface by hand. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
Every day, I was drawing and then scratching it | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
with a scalpel and attaching it. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
This process took Eiichi around 18 months to complete. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
For the first time ever, Johnston was digitised for use on a computer. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
A typeface that was originally only available in a couple of weights | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
now came in many more. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
So, altogether I made eight different variations. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
Light, medium, bold. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
Then when the typeface is reduced, in a 6-point or 4-point, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:55 | |
in a small size, it works much better - | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
and after the digitisation was done, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
Johnston survived again. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
New Johnston was born. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
It meant London Transport could continue to use it on Tubes, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
buses and signs. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
Also, Mayor of London started using it as official typeface, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
so I'm very pleased and proud of it, and I feel lucky. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:27 | |
Still I feel, Johnston and Gill Sans | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
both are absolutely fantastic | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
humanist sans-serif, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
and many other similar ones already come out, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
that not really kind of, you know, surpass their popularity. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:50 | |
As new Johnston returned to the safety of its home, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
at the same time, Gill Sans was being re-popularised as well. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
In fact, Gill was about to be the trusted typeface of choice | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
for Britain's newest channel. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Good afternoon. It's a pleasure to be able to say to you, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
welcome to Channel 4. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
The look of Channel 4 was created by designer Martin Lambie-Nairn. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
All of the channel's on-screen text | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
and many of their printed adverts were all in Gill Sans. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
An ironic choice, given that the logo | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
was very much of a serif design - | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
and yet they worked so well together... | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
..and it appeared a contagious choice. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
Much of the television media also started switching to Gill Sans. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
It was concise and easy to read. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
In 1997, the BBC followed suit. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
They wanted a logo and a typeface style | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
that would unify the entire corporation. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
Sound familiar? | 0:52:11 | 0:52:12 | |
At this time, the BBC had a different logo | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
for almost every TV and radio channel. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
A real mishmash of different designs. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
Something needed to be done. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
So, they turned to the same man who helped stylise Channel 4. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
The BBC logo had got out of control. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
Just about anybody who had a budget in the BBC | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
would commission a new logo. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
The main logo itself was made up of the four-colour printing process. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:48 | |
And so, it didn't work in black-and-white. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
So, not only did we have that problem, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
we had 180 different logo types that the BBC was sort of using, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:58 | |
so the entire identity of the BBC was being fragmented, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
rather than strengthened. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
The old, tired BBC logo, set in an italic typeface, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
was becoming slightly hard to read at an angle. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Martin Lambie-Nairn and his team were tasked with redesigning it, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:26 | |
moving from a slant... | 0:53:26 | 0:53:27 | |
..to a square. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
Quite frankly, the old logo just simply didn't work on television, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
because it was...it was sloping, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
and the engineering of television is that! | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
So, it broke up. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
So, we needed to create a logo type | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
that was going to be technically better and simpler, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
and I looked at Gill | 0:53:50 | 0:53:51 | |
because of the association that Gill had with the BBC, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
and, of course, all the sculptures around the building are his. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
I think the typeface brought a kind of simplicity to the channel. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
We were always aiming to keep things simple and clear... | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
..and it is a very unfussy typeface, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
so it probably did emphasise that clarity. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
But this evolution of design continues today. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:24 | |
Soon, there will be a new type on the block. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
After 20 years, the process is happening all over again. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
The BBC plan to phase out Gill Sans and replace it with a new, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
in-house typeface - one that has used Gill as an inspiration. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:43 | |
So, for me, it begs just one question - | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
why do they want to change it? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
Gill Sans was designed in the 1920s for the printed page. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Online, it sort of falls down somewhat. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
It's not digitally optimised, | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
it doesn't have great legibility | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
when you look at long-form journalism, for instance. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
So, we needed to improve that area. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
We currently license a number of fonts - we'd reduce that spend, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
we would own a typeface of our own. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
For the past two years, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:15 | |
David and his team have been working on a new style of BBC lettering, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
a typeface designed for the digital age. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
-So, shall we take a look at it? -I'm very excited. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
It's still work in progress, but I'm desperate to show you. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
This is the new typographic look of the BBC. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
You're getting a first glimpse at it now. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
It's still in production, but it's very exciting. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
That is absolutely beautiful, isn't it? | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
It's so lovely to see these echoes of Gill Sans | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
as well, on the S, for example. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
This Q and the B, without that little corner on them. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
One of the things that our typographers talk about | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
is the sort of Spartan elegance of Gill Sans. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
We've removed the spurs from these, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
which give it a real sort of friendly character. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
When you put the B opposite the P, they're not identical. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
There's definite echoes of where we've come from, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
from the heritage of Gill. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:11 | |
On closer inspection of the new BBC design, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
there are several obvious changes | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
that jump out when comparing it against Gill Sans. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
Gone are the perfectly circular Os | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
and Roman-style, quirky flourishes on the Ts and Gs... | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
..now replaced with lettering that uses far greater spacing on screen. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
And no-one's worried about the fact that it actually takes up more real | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
-estate on-screen? -Yeah - but to tick all those legibility boxes, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
you have to make it breathe a bit wider... | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
-Right. -For it to work in, say, a wearable, or on tiny screens, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
or whatever the future might hold. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
The spacing's wider, it's bringing a better legibility, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
giving it a little more breathing space. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
It must feel quite exciting | 0:56:56 | 0:56:57 | |
to be looking at all these wonderful new typeface ranges. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
It's incredibly exciting. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
It is so interesting to see this new BBC typeface in the flesh... | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
..but I can't help but wonder whether we've slightly lost | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
some of the panache that Gill Sans brought to it. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
Who knows? Maybe it'll be back in the future. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
After all, Gill Sans is the comeback king of all typefaces. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
For self-confessed design geeks like me, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
it is truly inspirational that these two classic British typefaces | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
are still influential, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
still evolving and still appropriate for modern times. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:44 | |
Whether it's the past glories of the Underground, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
cult album covers or brand-new designs, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
these two timeless British types | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
are as important and relevant now | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
as they were a century ago. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
Johnston and Gill Sans convey that sense of trust and tradition, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:12 | |
quintessential British values, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
that no matter how turbulent the times, you'll get home - safely. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:20 | |
Just follow the signs. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
MUSIC: Silk by Wolf Alice | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 |