Anjelica Huston on James Joyce: A Shout in the Street


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And after I was only a week in the comfort, he died.

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He was buried where his people came from.

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Oh, the day I heard that.

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That he was dead.

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The film of James Joyce's story

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The Dead has a special meaning for me.

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The role of Gretta Conroy was a wonderful part to play.

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The screenplay was written by my brother, Tony,

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and the movie was directed by my father, John Huston.

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It was his cherished ambition to

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film an adaptation of Joyce's story for many years,

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and this was the last of the many

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classic movies that he made during his lifetime.

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I'd heard of the book Ulysses, and I read it, and it was just

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an enormous influence it played on my life.

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Having read Ulysses, I proceeded to read everything else that

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he'd written. And among that material was The Dead,

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and of course, it's one of the most extraordinary

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short stories

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in the English language.

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One, two, three.

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My father was far from alone in his admiration of James Joyce

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and his belief in Joyce's greatness as a writer.

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Joyce questions everything.

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He wants to know more about everything.

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And in that respect, I think he is the poet of revelation.

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I think in Ireland he's viewed as an heroic figure.

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And I don't think anybody now in

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Ireland would take offence at anything he said.

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It all turned out to be true.

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You probably get to know Joyce most...

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You know, you see his image in pubs.

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This is one of the complications of Ireland's projection on the world

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is it's synonymous with good times and booze,

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and I suppose Joyce has been

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subsumed into that in quite a big way,

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which is probably quite appropriate.

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Growing up in Ireland, you just

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can't not be aware of Joyce as a figure, as a spectre.

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He's everywhere, right?

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I think he was cold

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in the way that many great artists are cold.

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I think he was entirely self absorbed.

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If you're too celebrated or celebrated early in Ireland,

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clearly you're doing something wrong and you're going nowhere.

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It's like you should be annoying Ireland in some way.

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He asked himself the question once - does a writer have to be ruthless?

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The answer is yes.

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James Augustine Aloysius Joyce was born in 1882 in Rathgar,

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a suburb on the south side of Dublin.

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He was the oldest of ten surviving

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children born to John Stanislaus Joyce and May Murray.

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His mother seems to have been a

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submissive and deeply religious woman.

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She must also have been very tolerant,

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since her husband was an alcoholic and a spendthrift.

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He managed to run through a large inheritance and did not hold down a

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regular job for the last 40 years of his life.

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As John Joyce's income fell,

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his family changed houses often to escape their creditors.

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In theory, this was a kind of

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Catholic middle class family who desperately wanted to

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be respectable, but they couldn't keep up that sort of pretence.

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You know, the tradesmen were always coming, looking to be paid,

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and were not being paid. They were hiding from the rent collectors.

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But John was determined that his son would be educated at Ireland's elite

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schools. Those run by Jesuits and not by the Christian Brothers.

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The Jesuits, in terms of Catholic education,

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were for the Catholic elite,

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and the Christian Brothers were for the lower middle classes,

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and the difference between one and the other was enormous.

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James first attended Clongowes Wood College,

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but had to leave when his father couldn't pay the school fees.

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However, he was soon offered free tuition at Belvedere College in the

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heart of Dublin.

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I think the Jesuit education gave him a sense of himself as different.

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Joyce grew up during a period of

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political uncertainty in Ireland that had

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developed in the decades that

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followed the fall and death of Charles Stewart Parnell,

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the uncrowned king of Ireland,

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who had brought the country to the verge of independence.

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But Parnell had been named as an adulterer

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in a sensational divorce case,

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and the political party he led had split in two.

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Joyce's own home was split by this division,

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which he wrote about in his first novel.

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Joyce's novel was dramatized by Hugh Leonard in his play, Stephen D.

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In one of its scenes, Stephen Dedalus is seven years old,

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and has been allowed to join the adults for Christmas dinner.

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Parnell's the only figure that Joyce doesn't mock.

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This sense of him as a martyr.

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The sense of him as a sexual martyr.

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The sense of him as someone who had suffered deeply at the hands of the

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worst elements in both Irish and English society.

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An argument breaks out about the

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role of the Catholic Church in the fall of Parnell.

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And were we to desert Parnell at the bidding of the English people?

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He was no longer worthy to lead.

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He was a public sinner.

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-Yeah.

-We are all sinners, Mrs Reardon, and black sinners.

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The row plants the first doubts in his mind

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about the authority of the Catholic Church.

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Joyce was a brilliant student

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who won awards and scholarships from an early age,

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and whose writing was first published

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when he was just nine years old.

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His family is living in abject poverty, but when he's 12,

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Joyce wins a top prize in Ireland's national exams,

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a windfall for the family,

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and his father says Joyce can spend it as he chooses.

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He thinks it will teach his son the value of money.

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But Joyce uses it to visit expensive restaurants and pay for trips to the

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theatre. Within a few weeks,

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the money is gone and the family is poverty stricken once again.

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Like his father, Joyce loved telling stories, singing and drinking.

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When he had money, he spent it with abandon.

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When he had none, he borrowed shamelessly from his friends.

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Joyce was not only precocious in his academic achievements,

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he also became sexually active while he was still very young.

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Respectability is such a powerful force in Victorian society that if

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you're going to follow your sexual desires,

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it means that you're going to place

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yourself outside of that society very,

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very fast and Joyce seems,

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from what we can tell from his own versions of himself,

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to be actually pretty comfortable

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early on with making that breach between

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himself and the society around him.

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He frequented the prostitutes who

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operated in the Monto district of Dublin,

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on the north side of the River Liffey, close to his school.

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Everything would begin to change for Joyce on the day he came across a

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young woman recently arrived in Dublin from Galway.

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Her name was Nora Barnacle.

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Nora caught Joyce's eye as he was walking in the centre of Dublin.

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Nora claimed she mistook him for a Swedish sailor,

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with his electric blue eyes, yachting cap, and plimsolls.

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But when he began to speak, she realised her mistake.

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"I knew him at once for just another

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"Dublin jackeen chatting up a country girl."

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She represented a part of Ireland that he, the Dubliner, did not know,

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and in fact feared.

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They met again six days later, on June 16, 1904.

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Nora and Joyce walked along the

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River Liffey until they reached a secluded

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spot, where they became intimate.

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Some years later, he recalled that day.

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"It was you who slid your hand down inside my trousers and frigged me

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"slowly until I came off through your fingers,

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"all the time bending over me and gazing at me out of your quiet,

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"saint-like eyes."

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She literally took him in hand and literally made a man of him.

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In many ways, this was most important day of his life,

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and it would become known as Bloomsday,

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the day on which he set all the

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action of his most famous novel, Ulysses.

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Nora might have seemed an unlikely match for Joyce.

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She'd been born in a Galway workhouse to illiterate parents.

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Her father was a drunkard.

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Her upbringing was chaotic, and her education was rudimentary.

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She'd run away from home after a severe beating,

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and was working as a chambermaid when she met Joyce.

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He sees a woman who is not a prostitute,

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but who has sexual desires,

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and sexual desires that are probably as strong as his own.

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From the beginning, they trusted one another.

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Within a few weeks,

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they'd agreed to leave Ireland together and seek a new life abroad.

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They eventually settled in Trieste,

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at that time part of Austria-Hungary,

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where Joyce obtained a post teaching English,

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and where he believed he would become not just an Irish writer,

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but a world-famous writer.

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For the trams of Trieste,

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even they can only add to the appeal of a city caught in the varying

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fashions of various occupiers.

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Of course, the Romans were here, but later,

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Austrian rule must surely have given Trieste this taste of Vienna.

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Trieste at that time was the most

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important port in the Habsburg Empire.

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It was a cosmopolitan city, and had

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become a hub of languages, music, art, and literature.

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"They call it a ramshackle empire.

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"I wish to God there were more such empires."

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It's not Dublin.

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It's completely unlike Dublin,

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and yet there's something about it that immediately was Dublinesque.

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I can see why Joyce loved it.

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He would have loved it for the

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mixture of types and of races and of languages.

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Things really do change once he leaves Ireland.

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To get away from that world of craw thumping, of petty jealousy,

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into a world where he could begin to miss Dublin.

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That instead of resenting it, wanting to leave it,

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he could think about it in a way which was more sonorous and kinder.

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Almost exactly a year after they first met, Nora gave birth to a son,

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Giorgio. Two years later, she gave birth to a daughter, Lucia.

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It is clear from the erotic letters they exchanged

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that they enjoyed an intense physical relationship at that time.

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"My love for you allows me to pray to the spirit of eternal beauty and

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"tenderness mirrored in your eyes.

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"Or to fling you down on that soft

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"belly of yours and fuck you up behind

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"like a hog riding a sow,

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"glorying in the open shame of your upturned dress and white girlish

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"drawers and the confusion of your flushed cheeks and tangled hair."

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Nora seldom read Joyce's work and claimed she would rather he'd been a

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professional singer than a writer.

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But she gave him the support that he needed, and Joyce, in turn,

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remained committed to Nora for the rest of his life.

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You would never think seeing her separately, and seeing James Joyce,

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that these two would be a marriage, but they were.

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And a great one.

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Nora had much to endure during their years in Trieste.

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They were often penniless and had to move from one miserable apartment to

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another. Joyce was also subject to great physical pain,

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due to recurring eye and stomach problems.

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But this was a period of exceptional creativity for him.

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During these years, he completed his first collection of poems,

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his first novel, and his first and only play.

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He also published his first

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collection of short stories, Dubliners.

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You don't get Joyce's great work

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without the formation of a consciousness

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that is utterly free of two things.

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One is shame, and the other is snobbery.

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And Nora liberates him, finally, from both of those things.

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Dubliners, his collection of 15 stories,

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each of which represents a different aspect of Dublin life in the opening

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years of the 20th century.

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By the time we get to the end of that collection of short stories,

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you've been taught something about a place that is so visceral.

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You know, he caught it, you know.

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I never... When I read it, I'd never been to Dublin,

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and I certainly hadn't been to Dublin in that time, and never will,

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but I feel like I knew it.

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According to Joyce,

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Dubliners is written in a style of scrupulous meanness,

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to convey a sense of material hardship and emotional repression.

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When people in Dublin go on about our Jimmy Joyce,

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I never know the Jimmy Joyce they're talking about,

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because if you look at the work,

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he may have loved Dublin, but he disliked it intensely,

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and you can certainly see that in Dubliners, for instance.

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I mean, the portrait of Dublin in Dubliners is bleak,

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cold, grey, and grimy.

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The 15 stories are built around a

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series of what Joyce termed epiphanies,

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moments of profound insight and revelation.

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Well, it is the one I can understand.

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Just the stories are extraordinary.

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The Dead is the final and most accomplished story in Dubliners,

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and it takes place on the feast of the Epiphany.

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I don't think art is a competitive field,

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but there is a case to be put for

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The Dead as possibly the greatest short

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story ever written.

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Its inspiration came from Nora Barnacle.

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She told Joyce that as a girl in Galway,

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she'd fallen in love with a boy who died while still very young.

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I don't know why The Dead is so good.

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Everything about it is good.

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I thought it was the most devastatingly beautiful

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short story I'd ever read.

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The language is so poetic and at the same time so grounded.

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It just spoke to my soul.

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The Dead has been adapted as a one-act play, as an opera,

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as a Broadway musical, and of course,

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as the movie directed by my father,

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-John Huston.

-The movie of The Dead was so close to the original,

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it was so faithful, it is one of the few true kind of

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proper acts of homage that you see to Joyce.

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The lead character in Joyce's story is Gabriel Conroy,

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who leads a carefully measured life.

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Oops, you'll never guess what he has me wearing now.

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Galoshes. That's the latest.

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He and his wife Gretta attend a

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Christmas party given by two elderly aunts

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who are music teachers in Dublin.

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The next thing he'll buy me will be a diving suit.

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In the story, we realise, of course, he's falling apart.

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He doesn't know who he is as a person,

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he doesn't know who he is as an Irish person.

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To tell you the truth, I'm sick of my own country.

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-I'm sick of it.

-Why?

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Superb.

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Why?

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Of course you've no answer.

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He's challenged at every point and then as his...

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The only thing he really knows is

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his relationship with Gretta, his wife.

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What row had you with Molly Ivers?

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No, no row. Why, did she say we had?

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No, I noticed you carrying on, that's all.

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I'm trying to get that Mr Darcy to sing.

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He's full of conceit, isn't he?

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There was no row. She wanted me to

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go on a trip to the west of Ireland and I said I wouldn't.

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Oh, Gabriel, do go.

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I'd love to see Galway again.

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Well, you can go if you like.

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I think there our great things in John Houston's film.

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I think that the central performances of Donald McCann and

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Anjelica Huston are glorious.

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# Oh don't you remember. #

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At the end of the evening,

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Gabriel watches Gretta as she stands at the top of the stairs and listens

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to a haunting ballad,

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The Lass of Aughrim.

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It's remarkable how then it becomes

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a story about her, because you thought it was a story about him.

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And he's able to do that with great economy,

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but also with great sympathy.

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# When we both met together. #

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The real revolutionary in the story is Gretta.

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She has come from the working class, come from the peasant class.

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She has infiltrated the Dublin bourgeoisie

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at its deepest, at its hardest.

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# My babe lies cold within my arms. #

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And by the end of the movie, she's done a complete flip.

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He can't show vulnerability, and the moment that she shows vulnerability,

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she's the conqueror.

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Later, in their hotel,

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Gretta becomes upset and tells Gabriel

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that the ballad was one a young boy

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called Michael Furey used to sing to her.

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I used to go out walking with him when I was in Galway.

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And perhaps that was why you wanted

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-to go with Galway with that Ivers woman.

-What for?

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How do I know? To see him, perhaps.

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He's dead.

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All of his expectations of her have somehow reversed,

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and she's become like a wild creature.

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She's become a wild swan again.

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I suppose you were in love with this Michael Furey, Gretta.

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I was great with him at the time.

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What was it he died of so young?

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Consumption, was it?

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I think he died from me.

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She then articulates the truth about her life in the most

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perceptive and courageous way.

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Did you not tell him to go back?

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I implored of him to go home at once

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and told him he'd get his death in the rain.

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But he said did not want to live.

0:20:000:20:03

He realises that he can't... He can't control her.

0:20:030:20:07

He can only observe her as the free creature that she is.

0:20:070:20:12

So it's like he has to release her.

0:20:120:20:14

Then, of course, it ends with the most astonishing prose that I don't

0:20:170:20:22

think an Irish writer has ever come out with,

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in those concluding paragraphs,

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with this vision of Ireland as a

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place snowbound and possibly paralysed,

0:20:290:20:34

but also with this potential for life,

0:20:340:20:37

stirring brilliantly underneath this gorgeous,

0:20:370:20:40

teeming imagery that he presents to you at the end.

0:20:400:20:43

Snow is falling.

0:20:430:20:45

Falling in that lonely churchyard where Michael Furey lies buried.

0:20:470:20:51

Falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling

0:20:520:20:58

like the descent of their last end

0:20:580:21:02

upon all the living and the dead.

0:21:020:21:05

The story is about a man's being revealed to himself.

0:21:090:21:14

While we're watching that happen, I think, we're revealed to ourselves.

0:21:140:21:20

What we think we are and what we are, really, is...

0:21:200:21:24

Are two different things.

0:21:260:21:28

A total labour of love.

0:21:280:21:30

It was... There was nothing but love involved.

0:21:300:21:34

Love for Ireland, love for the life we'd led there,

0:21:340:21:38

love of Irish character.

0:21:380:21:41

Oof.

0:21:410:21:42

And then deep understanding of...

0:21:450:21:48

..the kind of humanity that Joyce writes about in The Dead.

0:21:520:21:56

And the best thing you can say about The Dead is that it is as great a

0:21:560:21:59

film as Joyce's story is a story.

0:21:590:22:01

Dubliners was accepted for publication in 1905.

0:22:030:22:07

However, the printer refused to set all of the stories.

0:22:070:22:11

Three years later, the book was

0:22:110:22:13

again due to be published, but once again,

0:22:130:22:16

the printers refused to set the type.

0:22:160:22:18

But you can't really find anything in the stories to say

0:22:240:22:27

"Well, that's actually not publishable,"

0:22:270:22:29

you know, because they're not filthy,

0:22:290:22:32

but there's a general sense that this way of writing about Ireland,

0:22:320:22:37

this way of writing about Dublin, is somehow offensive.

0:22:370:22:40

When Dubliners finally appeared, it received critical praise,

0:22:410:22:45

but failed to sell.

0:22:450:22:47

A pathetic number of Dubliners were sold.

0:22:480:22:51

After all the trouble of trying to get it done, then not a penny.

0:22:510:22:54

It did not make him the fortune he'd hoped, but by then,

0:22:560:23:00

Joyce had already completed his first novel.

0:23:000:23:03

He had written the first version of

0:23:060:23:08

A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

0:23:080:23:11

as a short essay for a literary journal in Dublin.

0:23:110:23:15

When it was rejected, he decided to develop the essay into a novel.

0:23:150:23:19

He began his final attempt at

0:23:220:23:25

writing this novel in September 1907,

0:23:250:23:28

but after the first three chapters, he found it impossible to continue.

0:23:280:23:33

He did not resume work on his book for the next six years.

0:23:330:23:37

At that point, he received an

0:23:370:23:40

unexpected letter from a total stranger.

0:23:400:23:43

It came from the American Ezra Pound,

0:23:430:23:46

who'd been told about Joyce by the poet WB Yeats.

0:23:460:23:49

It was Pound's enthusiasm that

0:23:500:23:52

convinced Joyce to complete his novel.

0:23:520:23:55

The complete novel was finally published in New York in 1916.

0:23:570:24:02

The Irish reviews were scathing.

0:24:020:24:05

One claimed that Joyce,

0:24:050:24:06

"Drags his readers after him into the slime of foul sewers."

0:24:060:24:11

"Out here, Dedalus.

0:24:150:24:18

"You are a lazy little schemer."

0:24:180:24:20

A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

0:24:200:24:22

charts the development of Stephen Dedalus

0:24:220:24:25

from a child into a gifted but self-absorbed young man,

0:24:250:24:29

who is about to leave Ireland.

0:24:290:24:31

It seems his character has much in common with Joyce.

0:24:310:24:35

In the course of the novel,

0:24:360:24:38

we witness the loss of Stephen's

0:24:380:24:40

religious faith as he comes to define God as,

0:24:400:24:44

"A shout in the street."

0:24:440:24:46

The portrait is built around a number of set pieces.

0:24:470:24:52

In one of these, Stephen takes part in a religious retreat.

0:24:520:24:55

When I was, say, seven or eight,

0:24:560:25:00

you would start going to the boys' confraternity,

0:25:000:25:02

and they would lower the lights in

0:25:020:25:04

the big cathedral and the booming voice

0:25:040:25:07

of the priest would say,

0:25:070:25:09

"Death comes soon and judgment will follow,

0:25:090:25:14

"so now, dear boys, examine your conscience and find out your sins."

0:25:140:25:20

And there would be silence.

0:25:200:25:22

In hell, all laws are overturned.

0:25:220:25:25

There is no thought of family, country, its ties or relationships.

0:25:260:25:31

On the third day of the retreat,

0:25:310:25:34

the priest's sermon focuses on the horrors of hell and describes its

0:25:340:25:38

torments in such relentless and visceral detail

0:25:380:25:42

that he terrifies Stephen into submission.

0:25:420:25:45

Why did you sin?

0:25:450:25:47

Why did you lend an ear to the temptings of friends?

0:25:480:25:52

Why did you not shun the occasion of sin?

0:25:530:25:56

Why did you not give up that lured habit,

0:25:580:26:03

that impure habit?

0:26:030:26:04

Stephen stops frequenting prostitutes,

0:26:060:26:08

makes a full confession,

0:26:080:26:10

and is granted absolution.

0:26:100:26:13

It seems that he has been reconciled with mother church.

0:26:130:26:16

And you will promise God now

0:26:170:26:20

that you will never offend him again by that wicked sin.

0:26:200:26:25

-Yes, Father.

-That wretched, wretched sin.

0:26:250:26:29

But the priest's sermon also focused on the rebellion of the

0:26:290:26:33

intellect, which Lucifer raised against God,

0:26:330:26:37

and the fallen angel's call of defiance

0:26:370:26:39

is the same as the young artist.

0:26:390:26:42

Non serviam.

0:26:420:26:43

I will not serve.

0:26:430:26:45

"Six years ago, I left the Catholic Church.

0:26:460:26:49

"By doing this, I made myself a beggar, but I retained my pride.

0:26:490:26:54

"Now I make open war upon the Church

0:26:540:26:57

"by what I write and say and do."

0:26:570:26:59

Despite that, Catholicism seeps into every aspect of Stephen's life.

0:26:590:27:05

Above all, it shapes his perception of himself as an artist.

0:27:050:27:10

"A priest of the eternal imagination,

0:27:100:27:13

"transmuting the daily bread of experience

0:27:130:27:15

"into the radiant body of ever living life."

0:27:150:27:18

I thought this is the way to lead one's life,

0:27:200:27:23

or in particular, my life.

0:27:230:27:25

I want to be... I want to be an artist like this.

0:27:250:27:28

The idea of the priestly idea of the modernist writer appealed to me.

0:27:280:27:33

By the end of the novel,

0:27:330:27:35

Stephen is ready to leave Ireland,

0:27:350:27:38

and embrace a life of silence, exile, and cunning.

0:27:380:27:42

He wants to spread his creative

0:27:420:27:44

wings and fly past the nets of family,

0:27:440:27:47

church, and nationality that hold back his soul.

0:27:470:27:51

Joyce completed the first draft of

0:28:040:28:06

the first episode of his new novel on

0:28:060:28:09

the same day that the school where he'd been teaching closed.

0:28:090:28:12

Trieste was part of the Habsburg Empire.

0:28:120:28:15

However, most of the inhabitants were Italian,

0:28:150:28:18

and Italy had just declared war on Austria-Hungary.

0:28:180:28:21

Ireland was still part of the British state,

0:28:230:28:26

and therefore was also at war.

0:28:260:28:28

Joyce was classified as an enemy alien,

0:28:290:28:32

but he managed to escape from Trieste

0:28:320:28:35

with the help of some well-connected friends.

0:28:350:28:38

He and his family arrived in Zurich at the end of June, 1915.

0:28:380:28:43

Zurich was kind of a non-place.

0:28:440:28:46

It was also safe.

0:28:460:28:48

Like all artists, you know, he spent his time fleeing danger.

0:28:480:28:52

He'd intended that Ulysses would be another short story,

0:28:520:28:56

but it grew in his imagination.

0:28:560:28:59

He mapped out a structure that would correspond to Homer's epic poem,

0:28:590:29:03

the Odyssey, and found parallels

0:29:030:29:05

between modern Dublin and ancient Greece.

0:29:050:29:09

I often wonder if you came into a publishing house to pitch Ulysses,

0:29:090:29:15

and say, "Well, it's going

0:29:150:29:18

"to be Homer, but it's going to be, you know, Dublin in a single day."

0:29:180:29:23

If people would have just said,

0:29:230:29:25

"Get him out of here. We're not publishing that."

0:29:250:29:29

You know, you have to... You sort of have to execute it

0:29:290:29:32

for anyone to believe in it.

0:29:320:29:33

The rest of Europe may have seemed hell-bent on

0:29:370:29:40

destruction, but Switzerland was not at war.

0:29:400:29:42

Joyce and his family lived in many different addresses in Zurich,

0:29:440:29:48

as was their habit.

0:29:480:29:50

But thanks to the influence of the WB Yeats,

0:29:500:29:53

Joyce now received a stipend from the British Council.

0:29:530:29:57

He also caught the attention of Harriet Shaw Weaver,

0:29:570:30:00

a wealthy English woman.

0:30:000:30:01

Over the next 25 years,

0:30:030:30:05

she would provide him with enough money to ensure that he could devote

0:30:050:30:08

himself to writing.

0:30:080:30:10

On the 10th of October, 1916,

0:30:120:30:15

Joyce wrote to Harriet Weaver to say he was busy writing a new book.

0:30:150:30:19

"I am working at it as well as I can.

0:30:190:30:22

"It is called Ulysses and the action takes place in Dublin in 1904.

0:30:220:30:27

"I've almost finished the first part,

0:30:270:30:29

"and have written out part of the middle and end.

0:30:290:30:32

"I hope to finish it in 1918."

0:30:320:30:34

Joyce fell far short of that deadline,

0:30:360:30:39

but he began to publish episodes from the book

0:30:390:30:42

before it had been completed.

0:30:420:30:43

It soon became clear that Joyce's ambitions and skills as a writer had

0:30:460:30:51

gone far beyond his previous work.

0:30:510:30:53

He invented a form of English for himself.

0:30:550:30:59

No sentence in Ulysses is straightforward unless he means it

0:30:590:31:02

to be, unless he means it to be cliche.

0:31:020:31:04

That was his great revolution.

0:31:040:31:06

In July of 1920, Joyce and his family moved to Paris.

0:31:090:31:14

It was meant to be a brief visit,

0:31:140:31:16

but he stayed there for the next 20 years.

0:31:160:31:19

It was in Paris that he completed Ulysses,

0:31:190:31:23

and it was there that his book was published by Sylvia Beach,

0:31:230:31:26

another of his female benefactors.

0:31:260:31:29

Some people asked me,

0:31:290:31:31

"Were you disappointed when you met James Joyce?"

0:31:310:31:34

And I always say, "Never at all, for he was anything but disappointing."

0:31:340:31:39

There were attempts to censor Joyce's book even before it had been

0:31:430:31:46

published. In 1920, The Little Review

0:31:460:31:50

had featured the Nausicaa episode,

0:31:500:31:53

which includes references to masturbation

0:31:530:31:55

and the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice

0:31:550:31:59

took legal action to keep the book out of the USA.

0:31:590:32:03

At a trial in 1921, the magazine was declared obscene,

0:32:030:32:08

and Ulysses was banned.

0:32:080:32:10

He used to tell me about what was going on in New York,

0:32:100:32:14

and he was following this case where Ulysses was being suppressed,

0:32:140:32:19

and finally he came one day, to show me this Little Review, and he said,

0:32:190:32:22

"You see, this is now being completely suppressed,

0:32:220:32:25

"and my boo-ook,"

0:32:250:32:27

as he pronounced it, "will never come out."

0:32:270:32:29

So he sat there with his head in his hands, and

0:32:290:32:33

I said to him, "Would you like me to publish Ulysses?"

0:32:330:32:38

And he said, "I would."

0:32:380:32:40

In the final months before publication,

0:32:420:32:45

Joyce exhausted himself by rewriting numerous passages in the book.

0:32:450:32:49

He was determined that every detail should be authentic.

0:32:490:32:53

In November, 1921, he writes to his aunt Josephine.

0:32:570:33:01

He wants to know if it's possible

0:33:020:33:05

for an ordinary person to climb over the

0:33:050:33:08

area railings of number seven Eccles Street,

0:33:080:33:11

whether from the path or steps,

0:33:110:33:13

lower himself from the lowest part of the railings,

0:33:130:33:15

till his feet are within two or three inches of the ground and drop

0:33:150:33:19

unhurt. He needs to know because he

0:33:190:33:22

is revising one of the episodes in his

0:33:220:33:24

novel, in which someone enters his

0:33:240:33:26

house in Eccles Street by this method,

0:33:260:33:29

and Joyce wants to make quite sure it is possible.

0:33:290:33:32

Finally, on the 2nd of February, 1922,

0:33:360:33:40

two copies of Ulysses were sent by

0:33:400:33:43

train from printers in Dijon to Paris.

0:33:430:33:46

Joyce received the books on the morning of his 40th birthday.

0:33:460:33:51

Those that could obtain a copy soon found that the novel posed something

0:33:510:33:55

of an existential challenge.

0:33:550:33:57

Ulysses is a difficult book,

0:33:570:34:00

and it's a challenge for many readers.

0:34:000:34:02

I think we don't usually get too far in a conversation before I say,

0:34:020:34:05

"I've read Ulysses," because I'm still quite proud of it.

0:34:050:34:09

Of having actually got through it.

0:34:090:34:12

I think reading Ulysses is a bit like, you know,

0:34:120:34:15

being punched in the head, repeatedly,

0:34:150:34:18

and then finding after a time that you quite enjoy that.

0:34:180:34:22

The novel begins at eight in the morning of June the 16th, 1904,

0:34:280:34:33

with three young men who are living in a Martello tower in Sandy Cove,

0:34:330:34:37

a small coastal village south of Dublin.

0:34:370:34:40

There's no plot.

0:34:440:34:46

Days don't have plots.

0:34:460:34:48

Life doesn't have a plot.

0:34:480:34:50

And all the better for it.

0:34:500:34:52

At the end of Joyce's first novel,

0:34:520:34:54

Stephen Dedalus was about to leave for Paris.

0:34:540:34:57

In this one, he's returned to Ireland.

0:34:570:35:00

The novel also follows the path of an older man, Leopold Bloom,

0:35:010:35:06

as he goes about his business on that June day.

0:35:060:35:10

Bloom is the son of a Hungarian Jew, and an Irish Protestant.

0:35:100:35:14

He converted to Catholicism to marry his wife, Molly.

0:35:140:35:18

In this TV production,

0:35:190:35:21

Milo O'Shea gave what some

0:35:210:35:23

consider to be a definitive reading of the character.

0:35:230:35:27

I think the fact that Bloom is Jewish

0:35:270:35:29

is at the very heart of Ulysses.

0:35:290:35:31

I think it's so important.

0:35:310:35:33

I think it was a very deliberate, very careful,

0:35:330:35:36

very clever choice on Joyce's part.

0:35:360:35:38

I belong to a race too that's hated and persecuted.

0:35:380:35:42

At this moment, this instant.

0:35:420:35:44

Robbed, plundered, insulted, persecuted.

0:35:440:35:47

Taking what belongs to us by right, at this moment.

0:35:480:35:52

Are you talking about the new Jerusalem?

0:35:520:35:55

I'm talking about injustice.

0:35:550:35:56

Stand up to it, then, with force, like men.

0:35:560:35:58

But that's no good.

0:35:580:36:00

Force, hatred.

0:36:000:36:02

History and all that.

0:36:020:36:03

No, that's not the life of men and women.

0:36:030:36:06

Hatred, insult.

0:36:060:36:07

Everybody knows that it's the very opposite of that that's really life.

0:36:070:36:11

-What is?

-Love.

0:36:110:36:13

Having this complex identity for Bloom

0:36:140:36:17

allows Joyce to really wrangle with

0:36:170:36:21

all the themes of nationalism and identity and belonging.

0:36:210:36:26

And the saviour was a Jew and his father was a Jew, your God.

0:36:260:36:29

-That'll do now.

-Whose God?

0:36:290:36:31

..was a Jew and

0:36:310:36:34

your God was a Jew. And Christ was a Jew, like me.

0:36:340:36:37

I'll brain that bloody Jew man for using the holy name.

0:36:370:36:41

Bejesus, I'll crucify him!

0:36:410:36:43

I think he's saying just because we

0:36:430:36:45

don't have a big Jewish community does

0:36:450:36:47

not mean that we are not anti-Semitic

0:36:470:36:50

or have not been in the past.

0:36:500:36:52

And also, that moment is kind of chilling as well,

0:36:520:36:55

when you read it in the light of everything that followed.

0:36:550:36:57

See now.

0:37:030:37:05

There all the time without you.

0:37:070:37:10

Ulysses may be based on a classical text,

0:37:100:37:14

but everything that happens to

0:37:140:37:15

Stephen and Bloom is rooted in the everyday

0:37:150:37:18

experiences that make up the lives of ordinary people.

0:37:180:37:21

And through his use of a stream of consciousness technique,

0:37:220:37:26

Joyce is not only able to tell us what the characters are doing,

0:37:260:37:31

but what they are thinking.

0:37:310:37:33

Funny, my watch stopped at half past four.

0:37:330:37:35

What's happened?

0:37:350:37:37

Such a bad headache now.

0:37:380:37:41

Oh, exhausted, that female has me.

0:37:410:37:44

But will she come here tomorrow?

0:37:440:37:46

Murderers do. Write a message for her?

0:37:460:37:49

For Joyce, language was a lens.

0:37:510:37:53

It distorted, it clarified, and it was very highly polished.

0:37:530:37:57

What emerges as a portrayal of

0:37:580:38:00

Dublin that is both comprehensive and

0:38:000:38:03

precise. Joyce claimed that

0:38:030:38:06

if Dublin one day suddenly disappeared from the Earth,

0:38:060:38:09

"It could be reconstructed out of my book."

0:38:090:38:11

Joyce had originally intended that there would be 17 episodes in his

0:38:140:38:19

novel, all of them devoted to Bloom and Stephen.

0:38:190:38:23

But he added an 18th and final episode,

0:38:230:38:26

in which the only voice we hear is that of Bloom's wife, Molly.

0:38:260:38:31

She's waited for her husband's return

0:38:310:38:33

like Penelope in the Odyssey.

0:38:330:38:36

But unlike Homer's faithful wife,

0:38:360:38:38

she has committed adultery that afternoon.

0:38:380:38:41

Breakfast in bed.

0:38:410:38:44

He has an idea about me and Boylan.

0:38:440:38:47

Molly's final speech is written in eight paragraphs,

0:38:470:38:51

without any dialogue, and without any punctuation.

0:38:510:38:55

Men. I'd rather die 20 time over than marry another of their sex.

0:38:550:38:59

As we follow her speeding train of thought, sometimes bawdy,

0:38:590:39:03

sometimes fastidious,

0:39:030:39:05

we gather that she's both a sensuous and an intelligent woman.

0:39:050:39:10

Joyce had no problem getting into the minds of whoever,

0:39:100:39:13

because the book was the world and the world was his mind,

0:39:130:39:16

that he could do whatever he wanted,

0:39:160:39:18

including getting into the mind of Molly.

0:39:180:39:20

The day I got him to propose to me.

0:39:200:39:23

Yes, I said, I was a flower of the mountain, yes.

0:39:230:39:26

Every writer

0:39:260:39:28

needs one governing thing, one

0:39:280:39:31

governing emotion in their sensibility,

0:39:310:39:35

that no matter what, you can see it

0:39:350:39:37

appearing in their work, and for Joyce, that idea

0:39:370:39:42

of adultery, of unfaithfulness, of being a man,

0:39:420:39:46

and being weakened by the fact that

0:39:460:39:49

the woman who you desire, who you want,

0:39:490:39:52

is actually with somebody else, really animates him,

0:39:520:39:55

really gets him going.

0:39:550:39:57

Much of Molly's thoughts are related to her personal sexual history,

0:39:580:40:02

impulses and fantasies.

0:40:020:40:05

The explicit detail of her words

0:40:050:40:07

greatly contributed to the novel's shock

0:40:070:40:10

impact when it was first published.

0:40:100:40:12

"It begins and ends with the female word yes.

0:40:130:40:17

"It turns like the huge Earth ball, slowly, surely, and evenly,

0:40:170:40:21

"round and round, spinning,

0:40:210:40:23

"its four cardinal points being the

0:40:230:40:26

"female breasts, arse, womb, and cunt."

0:40:260:40:29

To say yes, my mountain flower.

0:40:290:40:31

First I put my hands around him. Yes.

0:40:310:40:34

I find the language itself tremendously sensual.

0:40:340:40:37

I drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts so perfumed, yes.

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And physical and funny and overwhelming.

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His heart was going like mad.

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And yes, I said, yes, I will. Yes!

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TS Eliot described the publication of Joyce's book as having the

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importance of a scientific discovery.

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It's incredible. You would look at the whole and think the certitude,

0:41:020:41:07

that he absolutely knew where he was going, which is hard, you know.

0:41:070:41:12

It's hard to see the end before you begin.

0:41:120:41:16

It may be the hardest thing for a writer,

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and I don't think anyone did it better.

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But not everyone has appreciated Joyce's novel.

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By 1922, Ireland had achieved political independence,

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but the new Irish state was imbued with a deeply conservative Catholic

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ethos. Ulysses was never banned in Ireland,

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but Joyce was often portrayed as a pornographer.

0:41:420:41:44

His aunt Josephine in Dublin steadfastly

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refused to read Ulysses because

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she believed it to be a dirty book.

0:41:510:41:54

"If Ulysses isn't fit to read," Joyce said,

0:41:540:41:57

"then life isn't fit to live."

0:41:570:41:59

In 1931, Joyce's father died.

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"No man could be worthy of such

0:42:050:42:07

"intense love as my father had for me."

0:42:070:42:09

Soon afterwards, his first and only grandchild was born.

0:42:120:42:16

Joyce wrote a poem to mark the occasion of Stephen Joyce's birth.

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A child is sleeping.

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An old man gone.

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Oh, father forsaken.

0:42:270:42:29

Forgive your son.

0:42:290:42:31

Joyce's reputation as a banned writer

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made him a literary celebrity.

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He became a leader of the avant-garde,

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and he enjoyed to the full the cafe society of Paris.

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There were few royalties from Ulysses,

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because it was banned for many years.

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But Joyce continued to enjoy the patronage of Harriet Weaver.

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He has enormously powerful, wealthy, and patient allies.

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I mean, this was a golden time in the life of Paris,

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and he was at the very centre of this and, I mean,

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I think this gave him great pleasure.

0:43:140:43:17

Within a few years,

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Joyce had gone from being an impoverished language teacher in a

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backwater of Europe to becoming a

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respected writer with an international reputation.

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When Joyce goes to the restaurant, it's, you know, the full canonicals.

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He lives a sort of,

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you know, grand bourgeois life for a lot of the time,

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and when he's not doing that, it's because he's spent all the money.

0:43:390:43:42

He has his father's improvidence.

0:43:420:43:44

The young Irishman Samuel Beckett will wait another 30 years for fame

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as author of the controversial drama Waiting for Godot.

0:43:480:43:52

At the moment, he is serving as secretary to his renowned and still

0:43:520:43:56

more controversial compatriot, James Joyce.

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Joyce's novel Ulysses is damned by

0:43:590:44:01

censors on both sides of the Atlantic,

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but finds an enthusiastic publisher and public in Paris.

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In 1933,

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Random House arranged for a copy of

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the book they'd imported to be seized by customs.

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The publisher then contested the seizure.

0:44:150:44:18

The US court of appeals ruled that the book was not pornographic.

0:44:180:44:23

It was a landmark decision that

0:44:230:44:25

would help to change attitudes on the

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censorship of art throughout the world.

0:44:270:44:29

Joyce's celebrity could not protect him from his worsening health.

0:44:360:44:40

He suffered from a constant stream of eye problems,

0:44:400:44:44

went through a number of complex surgeries,

0:44:440:44:46

and spent long stretches when he was virtually blind.

0:44:460:44:50

At times, he had to write with large

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red crayons so that he could read his own words.

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There was something else that weighed on his mind during these

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years. And that was the mental health of his daughter, Lucia.

0:45:000:45:04

Lucia had been a sickly child,

0:45:050:45:08

and her earliest memories were of domestic chaos.

0:45:080:45:11

Her relationship with her father was intense, and sometimes tortured.

0:45:120:45:17

Do you know an author who isn't manipulative?

0:45:180:45:21

That's what we do. We sit in our rooms and we manipulate language,

0:45:210:45:24

we manipulate character, we manipulate the material we're given,

0:45:240:45:28

we manipulate our families and friends.

0:45:280:45:31

We're cannibals, essentially.

0:45:310:45:32

Lucia had a strained relationship with Nora,

0:45:340:45:37

and on Joyce's 50th birthday,

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she attacked her mother.

0:45:390:45:42

Lucia was admitted to a clinic and for the next few years,

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moved between hospitals and home.

0:45:450:45:48

Carl Jung diagnosed schizophrenia,

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but Joyce did not want to accept this verdict.

0:45:510:45:53

"I am in a minority of one, in my opinion,

0:45:550:45:57

"as everybody else apparently thinks Lucia is crazy.

0:45:570:46:01

"But her mind is as clear and as unsparing as lightning.

0:46:010:46:05

"She is a fantastic being, speaking a curious language of her own.

0:46:050:46:09

"I understand it.

0:46:090:46:11

"Or most of it."

0:46:110:46:13

He came to love Lucia, probably more than anyone.

0:46:140:46:18

And he felt

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that his madness,

0:46:200:46:22

that he had somehow escaped the worst of,

0:46:220:46:26

and in some etheric way,

0:46:260:46:29

he had transmitted it to his daughter.

0:46:290:46:32

When she was 28, Lucia entered an asylum in France.

0:46:340:46:39

She would never live outside an institution again.

0:46:390:46:42

Joyce was so exhausted by the time he finished Ulysses

0:46:440:46:49

that he was unable to write prose for over a year.

0:46:490:46:52

However, in March, 1923,

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he wrote to Harriet Weaver that he'd just completed two pages of a new

0:46:550:46:59

book. This would eventually become Finnigan's Wake.

0:46:590:47:03

Joyce, after Ulysses,

0:47:030:47:05

has gone into a certain zone where

0:47:050:47:07

he does what a shaman does in society,

0:47:070:47:10

which is sort of a shaman makes himself crazy.

0:47:100:47:13

He goes out onto the extreme, has visions and talks in tongues,

0:47:130:47:18

and deranges himself.

0:47:180:47:20

The Wake was his final book,

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and it took Joyce 17 years to complete.

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The novel is often considered to be one of the most difficult books to

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read in any language.

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Like a lot of people, I got a

0:47:340:47:35

hundred pages into Finnegan's Wake and

0:47:350:47:37

couldn't find my way out.

0:47:370:47:39

The opening line of the book is a

0:47:390:47:41

fragment of the sentence which is left

0:47:410:47:43

unfinished in the book's closing line,

0:47:430:47:45

making the work a never ending cycle.

0:47:450:47:48

You can't really read it.

0:47:480:47:50

It has to be spoken and has to be spoken by someone Irish and someone

0:47:500:47:53

probably a Dubliner.

0:47:530:47:55

The book concerns the Earwicker family,

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but there is no conventional plot.

0:48:140:48:16

Joyce builds layer upon layer of multilingual puns, wordplays,

0:48:160:48:21

and literary allusions upon a

0:48:210:48:23

foundation of standard or Hiberno English.

0:48:230:48:26

I still don't know how to read it.

0:48:280:48:31

The critical reaction, when the book appeared, was largely negative.

0:48:310:48:36

Ulysses may have been a demanding read, but for many,

0:48:360:48:39

Finnigan's Wake was a step too far.

0:48:390:48:42

I consider Finnigan's Wake to be a great disaster,

0:48:420:48:45

with equal emphasis on both words.

0:48:450:48:47

It is great but it's also disastrous.

0:48:470:48:50

As TS Eliot in his gnomic way said,

0:48:500:48:52

"One book like this is enough."

0:48:520:48:54

"I might easily have written the story in the traditional manner.

0:48:560:48:59

"Every novelist knows the recipe.

0:48:590:49:01

"It's not very difficult to follow a

0:49:010:49:03

"simple chronological scheme which the critics will understand.

0:49:030:49:07

"But I, after all, am trying to tell a story in a new way."

0:49:070:49:10

Perhaps Finnigan's Wake disappointed some readers

0:49:120:49:16

because they felt it was not the book Joyce should have written.

0:49:160:49:19

People are slightly moral about what writers should or shouldn't do,

0:49:190:49:22

and you can see the progression in Joyce

0:49:220:49:24

so simply from Dubliners through to Finnigan's Wake.

0:49:240:49:27

You say, "Oh, should he have done that now?"

0:49:270:49:30

So, should he have done Finnigan's Wake?

0:49:300:49:32

It's really, really hard to read and you say,

0:49:320:49:34

"Well the connection with the readership is obviously broken there

0:49:340:49:37

"or he didn't need to sell a book."

0:49:370:49:39

He had plenty of money. But I think that he was going so far out on the

0:49:390:49:44

limb that was nowhere else for him to go.

0:49:440:49:48

But the reason that he's so good was that he was following his

0:49:480:49:52

own preoccupation with such integrity.

0:49:520:49:56

The Wake maybe more often written about than read,

0:49:560:50:00

but it has come to assume an iconic role in English literature.

0:50:000:50:03

The book has bequeathed new words to the English language,

0:50:050:50:09

and nuclear physicists have even found that its linguistic patterning

0:50:090:50:13

corresponds to complex fractals,

0:50:130:50:16

the geometric figures that that

0:50:160:50:17

feature in the structures of everything

0:50:170:50:21

from snowflakes to the galaxies of stars.

0:50:210:50:24

I love that it exists, you know. It had to exist.

0:50:240:50:28

It's incredibly important that it exists.

0:50:280:50:31

Someone had to do it and there's no-one else except for Joyce who

0:50:310:50:34

could have pulled it off and had the, you know,

0:50:340:50:37

persistence and the intelligence and the vision to do it.

0:50:370:50:42

Some things need to be done just because they need to be done.

0:50:420:50:45

By the time he finished the Wake, Joyce had,

0:50:470:50:50

in the words of one friend,

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"Consumed almost all of his substance, physical and spiritual,

0:50:520:50:56

"moral and material."

0:50:560:50:58

Perhaps the years of illness coupled with excessive drinking and

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creative struggle had taken their toll,

0:51:020:51:05

and there were other urgent issues to be addressed.

0:51:050:51:08

Germany's wild attack becomes more savage every hour.

0:51:100:51:13

Down swoop their bombers on undefended towns,

0:51:130:51:15

down upon women and children.

0:51:150:51:17

On May the 10th, 1940,

0:51:170:51:20

the German Wehrmacht launched a blitzkrieg across a wide front.

0:51:200:51:24

The armies of France, Belgium, and the Netherlands were soon defeated,

0:51:240:51:29

and German forces were able to enter Paris.

0:51:290:51:32

Joyce was still a British citizen,

0:51:350:51:37

and Great Britain was at war with Nazi Germany.

0:51:370:51:41

He also represented everything in art that the Nazis despised.

0:51:410:51:45

Beyond that, his daughter Lucia was in a psychiatric hospital,

0:51:450:51:49

while his grandson Stephen was half Jewish,

0:51:490:51:53

and Joyce knew how the Nazis dealt with mental patients and with Jews.

0:51:530:51:57

Joyce decided to seek refuge once again in Switzerland.

0:52:030:52:08

But crossing the Swiss border this time proved more difficult.

0:52:080:52:11

By the end of his life, Joyce was once again short of money.

0:52:250:52:29

Eventually, he managed to cross the Swiss border with Nora,

0:52:330:52:37

Giorgio and Stephen.

0:52:370:52:39

Joyce arrived in Geneva in December 1940,

0:52:400:52:44

travelling on to Zurich a few days later.

0:52:440:52:46

He arrived there broken and sick,

0:52:480:52:50

and wrote with relief to thank the mayor of Zurich for his help in

0:52:500:52:54

facilitating his family's entry.

0:52:540:52:56

Less than a month after he arrived in Switzerland,

0:53:270:53:31

Joyce was overcome with stomach pains.

0:53:310:53:34

He was admitted to hospital, and an X-ray revealed a perforated ulcer.

0:53:340:53:38

At first, it seemed that an operation had been successful,

0:53:400:53:44

and he worried who would pay for it.

0:53:440:53:46

The next day, he lapsed into a coma.

0:53:480:53:51

At one o'clock in the morning of January the 13th, 1941, he woke,

0:53:520:53:58

and asked a nurse to call Nora at once.

0:53:580:54:00

But before she could arrive at the hospital, Joyce was dead.

0:54:010:54:05

Joyce was the great escapologist.

0:54:150:54:17

In the Portrait of the Artist,

0:54:170:54:20

he said, "I've got to fly the nets

0:54:200:54:22

"of nationality, religion, of family."

0:54:220:54:25

He gets away.

0:54:250:54:27

He gets away from Ireland, he gets away from Dublin,

0:54:280:54:31

he gets away from his family, he gets away from Catholicism,

0:54:310:54:34

he gets away from the First World War,

0:54:340:54:37

but he doesn't really get away from the second.

0:54:370:54:40

In the end, history catches up with him.

0:54:400:54:42

I mean, it's a very sad idea that

0:54:440:54:46

this great man who was taken from us so

0:54:460:54:49

young had achieved so much.

0:54:490:54:52

I mean, it is really, really almost

0:54:520:54:54

sickening to think that he published Ulysses when he was 40.

0:54:540:54:57

Joyce was still regarded by many in Ireland as a pornographer

0:54:580:55:02

and religious apostate.

0:55:020:55:05

Nora's request to repatriate the

0:55:050:55:06

body to Ireland was refused by the Irish government.

0:55:060:55:10

When Joyce was buried in Zurich,

0:55:100:55:13

the Irish Consul was instructed not to attend the funeral.

0:55:130:55:17

A Catholic priest had approached Nora,

0:55:170:55:19

offering to provide a religious service, but she refused.

0:55:190:55:23

"I couldn't do that to Jim," she said.

0:55:230:55:25

When his daughter Lucia heard of his death, she said,

0:55:280:55:32

"What's he doing under the ground, that idiot?

0:55:320:55:34

"When will he decide to come out?

0:55:340:55:37

"He's watching us all the time."

0:55:370:55:39

Perhaps Lucia's instincts were right, because since his death,

0:55:470:55:52

Joyce's presence has continued to be felt.

0:55:520:55:55

Not just in works of literature, but

0:55:550:55:58

also in art, in music, and in cinema.

0:55:580:56:01

When I think of his reputation in the 1970s in Dublin,

0:56:010:56:04

and how his own family were ashamed that they were related to him,

0:56:040:56:08

you cannot imagine what it would have been like 50, 70,

0:56:080:56:12

80 years ago previously to that.

0:56:120:56:14

I mean, it was just impossible for

0:56:140:56:16

someone to have lived in that Dublin.

0:56:160:56:17

What amazed me about Joyce is how much he changed over the

0:56:220:56:26

span of his career.

0:56:260:56:27

To me, it's like the Beatles going from their first album through the

0:56:270:56:31

White album. Like a relatively short span of time where every possibility

0:56:310:56:35

is used, exhausted,

0:56:350:56:37

and then chucked away, and something else has taken its place.

0:56:370:56:42

He was someone who could look deep into the human mind,

0:56:420:56:47

into all our nasty little secrets, and still find us wonderful.

0:56:470:56:52

Bloomsday, the day on which he first walked out with Norma Barnacle and

0:56:530:56:58

the day on which he set Ulysses,

0:56:580:57:01

is celebrated wherever Joyce's work is read,

0:57:010:57:04

which means all over the world.

0:57:040:57:07

In Ireland, the country that once abhorred Joyce and his works,

0:57:070:57:11

the day has become something of a national festival.

0:57:110:57:15

With an Irish writer, if she or he is any good,

0:57:160:57:22

make no mistake, he's also a European writer.

0:57:220:57:25

There is an opinion that the

0:57:270:57:29

presence of Joyce especially cast a dark

0:57:290:57:33

shadow on all other fiction that

0:57:330:57:35

came after him in Ireland, but you know,

0:57:350:57:38

my response is, you know, look what happens in the shadows.

0:57:380:57:42

Badness.

0:57:420:57:44

Wonderful, wicked badness.

0:57:440:57:46

Without Joyce's work, no modern literary canon can be complete.

0:57:470:57:53

He's read everywhere, taught everywhere,

0:57:530:57:55

and his influence is felt everywhere,

0:57:550:57:58

even by those who've never read his books.

0:57:580:58:01

The Irish provenance of his work is indisputable,

0:58:010:58:05

but its compass is the world.

0:58:050:58:06

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