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So this has never happened before in your career?

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No. Never anything this dramatic.

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Would it have impacted your sales, do you think?

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I don't think it would have been

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helpful to have two covers on the news stand

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at the same time of the same person within the same market.

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Which is the publication that is competing with you?

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I think it's Vogue in America.

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It's quite a sort of combative move,

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on her behalf, to bring her edition earlier.

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Yeah, I suppose.

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I'm actually interviewing Anna Wintour tomorrow.

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She won't know about it.

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Please don't say anything.

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We were not going to talk of that. You said we weren't

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-going to talk about this any more.

-Oh, OK.

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-Sorry.

-No, but you did.

-All right. Sorry.

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February the 23rd, 2016.

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Sometimes, I wonder if a woman

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might have been a better choice to make this series.

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Alex phoned this morning in a furious mood,

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threatening to pull the whole project.

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She's angry that I might talk to

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Anna Wintour is about the Rihanna cover when I

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interview her today.

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She thinks I'm about to betray confidential information.

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But the last thing I want to do is get on the wrong side

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of the editor in chief of British Vogue.

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So, you were at British Vogue for a while.

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-What memories have you got?

-Very short time!

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What memories have you got of that time?

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Well, I had a lot of fun, you know.

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I came here very determined to bring an American spirit

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and an American sensibility to the pages.

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At that time, there was no online.

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I look back on that time and think, how crazy was I?

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I mean, what's so wonderful about what Alexandra does

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and what the editors before her have done

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is they've really celebrated

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the British spirit, and that's what each Vogue

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should do, is represent the country that they

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are being published in.

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You know, I always use a

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quote that Ralph Lauren gave me many, many years ago.

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You can't be too hot and you can't be too cold.

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You just have to be part of the conversation.

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Vogue is a worldwide name

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and being steward of that name means just that,

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finding that balance between the future of fashion

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and what's existing right now.

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And Alexandra does that with enormous intelligence

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and integrity.

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I think... I hope she stays forever.

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January the 25th.

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When you think of a fashion icon, you wouldn't automatically

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think of a man who has a white ponytail and wears

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fingerless leather gloves, would you?

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But that's the thing about Karl Lagerfeld.

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He defies classification.

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Alex has invited me to a private meeting with him.

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So what's happening with these guys?

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She's always having one-to-ones with the top designers.

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She gets to see their collections the night before a show.

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I've been told Chanel's haute couture

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outfits cost over £10,000 each.

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This person has to be presented to Karl before doing anything.

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OK. Fine, fine, fine.

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-I've got to meet him personally?

-Yes. With the camera down.

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-Oh, right. OK.

-It's more polite to be introduced before the show.

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Oh, OK. Right, fine.

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-Really?

-This one is a very good one.

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-So beautiful, Karl.

-Quite right.

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So it's a tribute to nature, yes?

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We've suddenly got very ecologically...

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-That is so pride.

-What is made of?

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-They are like little bits of wood.

-It's wood?

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-Paper-thin, yeah.

-It's wood?

-I love it that

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you've got the beads down, the golden beads down here.

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-It's incredible.

-It's incredible. We are showing...

-Oh, wow.

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That's like paper embroidery.

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Can you walk until I see the length?

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It's incredible.

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Can I just ask you one quick question?

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Have you known Alex a long time?

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I understand not one word with all the noise here.

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Oh, sorry. Have you known Alex a long time?

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-Quite a long time.

-Since she was a baby.

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-100 years!

-Quite a long time but,

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you know, we are always about today, not about yesterday.

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Exactly. Karl's a great one for

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-looking to the future, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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In fashion, the future is six months, six months, six months.

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That's not created on the past.

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Because I didn't know if you liked cats.

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-I have a cat. I like my cat.

-You want a Choupette?

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-I'd love a Choupette as well.

-You want a Choupette?

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-Yeah.

-Good.

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-Oh, thank you very much.

-Is that your cat?

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-Yes.

-Karl loves his cat.

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This is the hologram in a rock crystal.

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Of Choupette? No!

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-Yes.

-Can I see?

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-It's here.

-Oh, my God.

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-It's your cat!

-What's that picture of?

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-His cat.

-It's my cat.

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Choupette. That's unbelievable.

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-Alexandra.

-Now, Karl, I've got to

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get you to London for our birthday, one way or

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another, otherwise I'll have to have Choupette instead.

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How's it going back at base?

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You seem a bit like you've got a lot on your mind.

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I'm in a car with the film crew, late for a show.

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What's up?

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Yeah. Have you got any news?

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'Tonight, Alex left in quite a brusque way

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'after our filming with Karl Lagerfeld.'

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No, but they can't hear what you are saying, and I'm

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about to hang up.

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'Sometimes, I feel like I'm treading on eggshells.'

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Oh, OK. No, I'll ring you in a moment, then.

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I'm going to get out of the car in a second anyway, OK?

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I'll ring you right back. OK. Bye.

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All right. Listen, I've got to go, all right?

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'Mind you, in just four months, the centenary

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'issue of the magazine will be published,

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'there is an exhibition at the National Portrait Gallery

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'and a huge gala dinner will take place in Hyde Park.

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'This must be the most intense six months of her career.'

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January the 26th.

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Today, I hung out with Sarah Harris.

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Sarah is one of Vogue's rising stars.

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She attends all the shows and then she writes reviews

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of the collections for the magazine.

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I was surprised how famous she is.

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She's got a huge Instagram following.

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If you look at her profile,

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you see the quintessential glamorous life,

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exotic sandy beaches, skiing in the Alps, sports cars.

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That was a bit crazy,

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being photographed by all those photographers, wasn't it?

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Yes, it can get a bit intense,

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I suppose, when there's quite so many of them.

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Do you... Is there a part of you that quite

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-likes being noticed like that?

-I don't mind it,

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like, in the afternoon, I don't mind it,

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because I feel like my face has woken up a bit,

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but I don't know, in the morning it's a bit intense,

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when you're kind of half asleep

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and not so keen on having your picture taken.

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So that's a photograph that is already gone up on Twitter.

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-On Instagram.

-On Instagram?

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Yeah. They posted it.

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I remember really loving shoes

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from a really young age and being really excited to get,

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you know, new term school shoes

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and going to Russell & Bromley

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and I used to obsess over keeping them clean

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and pristine and I'd keep them in the box.

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I'd wear them for a day, clean them off.

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I was, like, five years old. Put them back in the box.

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And then, yeah, as soon as they got a grass stain on them,

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I'd be devastated.

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And I'm still a bit like that with my clothes and my shoes.

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I really like these Manolos. I love those.

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I'll have those forever, wear them forever.

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I really like these Celines...

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..with the gold toe cap.

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My uniform is really pretty much jeans and a shirt,

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more or less, every day at work.

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Or jeans and a T-shirt or jeans and a cashmere jumper.

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Have you got a lot of jeans?

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Yeah. I've got, um...

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More than ten pairs?

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80? 82?

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-82 pairs?

-Yeah.

-Of jeans?

-Yeah.

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-I've got a lot.

-82 pairs of jeans?

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Yeah, and I try to sort of

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make a cull and throw lots out but they're

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so kind of imbued with memories, you know, it's

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hard to get rid of them.

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But I do fill up bin liners probably four times a year

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and take them down to the charity shop.

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I'll bring you the Vogue thing. So let's start, then.

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February 10th. I bought the last ever copy of the men's

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magazine FHM today.

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It has Holly Willoughby on the cover.

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Like all publications,

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Vogue can't just rely on the magazine any more.

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The website is key. The online team communicate

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with a new generation of Vogue reader through Snapchat,

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Instagram and Twitter.

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But they're banned from using modern social media parlance

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like emojis and exclamation marks.

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Then there's Vogue Video, the online channel.

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Today, they're shooting a feature called Inside My Wardrobe.

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It felt a bit cannibalistic, me stood there filming them,

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filming themselves.

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Hi, everyone. And, so, just to have a recap on

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the state of play in all these centenary endeavours.

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Rather frighteningly, it's sort of becoming real.

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'It's funny being in a place

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'where so much emphasis is on the future because,

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'ironically for Alex, her immediate future is being dominated

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'by the past and the multitude of events lined up to celebrate it.'

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Is there any thought, this being our centenary year,

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I think, have we not got a Vogue 100 T-shirt?

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Is that right or not?

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-We are asking...

-We've got a Vogue everything.

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What I'm doing is approaching four or five different

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young British designers to see if they would all

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do 100 limited-edition T-shirts.

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-Right.

-Couldn't Topshop do it? Just so that, I just

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think the exclusive product is very high-end

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and we need to speak to a wider audience, really,

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so maybe we have to have something from a...

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I think you get one brand to do one T-shirt.

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Topshop, we've spoken to before.

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I don't think it should be Topshop, actually, even if it's one brand.

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-Or H&M?

-Well, I don't know, I mean,

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if we're going to just do one T-shirt,

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we probably, although we want it to be at a lower price point,

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we probably want it to be quite a special T-shirt,

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so not just, you know, a sort of Fruit of the Loom

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T-shirt with Vogue 100 written on it.

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That's why I thought the designer ones would be kind of special

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because they could all do their own interpretation, you know.

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'This afternoon, I received a call out of

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'the blue from the Vogue press office.

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'They've asked me to film an event at the end of

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'April but they won't tell me what it is.

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'All I know is that Alex is going to be making an announcement.

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'They've told me I mustn't

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'discuss this with anyone, not even Alex.'

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The fashion director, Lucinda, has been at

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Vogue even longer than Alex and she's invited me

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on what I've calculated to be her 422nd shoot.

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It is with the next big thing, a teenager from the

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Dominican Republic called Lenazy.

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Since it began 100 years ago,

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only a handful of black models have appeared on

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the cover of British Vogue.

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You know, you'll have a show season that everybody will be from

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Holland or everybody will be from Brazil,

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but in the last few seasons, there's been an

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incredible mix and for us,

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it's a blessing, because we're not

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limiting ourselves.

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So, it's brilliant to have that diversity.

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How are you?

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'Patrick Demarchelier has been

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'photographing for Vogue since the 1970s.'

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-How are you, Patrick?

-Good, good.

-Are you?

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Yeah, fantastic. You look fantastic. You look younger.

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That's such shit, Patrick, cos I've just got off a flight.

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-So are we doing Lego, a Lego story?

-We are doing a Lego story.

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-I'm going to sort out the clothes and then I'll show you.

-OK.

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So, that's great.

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-It's amazing how much stuff you need for one shoot.

-Fabulous.

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This is quite little.

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Most people would have double this.

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It's just great.

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They've all got to hang like soldiers,

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like a beautiful army...

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a beautiful army of a story.

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I love those pants.

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OK, well, before I do anything...

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If we like the length, the height, the width.

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It's amazing. You look incredible.

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-I mean, I think it really brings out your beauty.

-OK, let's go for this.

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I'm not even going to try the little one on because...

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No. And you know what I love, Sam?

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-I love this texture in here with this texture.

-OK.

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-Oh, my God, I think you look incredible.

-Great.

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Nice, sexy, nice. And down, something like that.

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-Very easy.

-Eyes to the side. Don't move your face.

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Turn this way. Turn to face me a bit more.

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Too much. Now straight. Very straight.

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Don't move any of that. That? Just like that?

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Beautiful.

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That's beautiful.

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Don't move too much. Easy, easy.

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'In my time, when I started,

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'there were these supermodels and they

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'were really huge personalities.

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'Super glamorous - Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell.

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'And then after that came more of a fragile,

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'less healthy beauty, in a way.

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'Less obviously healthy.

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'So, your eye kind of changes as these girls come through

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'and I think what's difficult about right now

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'is that they come and they go.'

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What's wonderful about, say, five years ago, ten years ago,

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there was a longevity to girls and you could watch them develop

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and flourish and grow, and hate modelling

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and then come back to modelling, and they'd do something else

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and return to it and now what you see is a much faster pace.

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Watch the hand on the leg, Patrick.

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Just so it's more relaxed. Just...

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'It's almost as if the industry isn't

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'giving them a chance to grow into their own skin.'

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I think it's all... It's not, it feels...

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I'm not sure of it.

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Patrick, I'm just going to put her foot in the shoe more.

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-I still think it was better before.

-This one?

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Lenazy, I think if you can make this foot not tilt up, if possible.

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She could even pull it forward a bit.

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-No, not that far forward.

-No.

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Or just like point it down. Bring it back up and point it down.

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Bring this leg back up.

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-And then point the toe down.

-No, this one.

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-I think you've got to feel...

-You've got to go the other way.

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You've got to lean on that hand,

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like you are there and then that hand stays there.

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Richard, sorry, can we just sort of, give us a moment.

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We could be a while.

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That's beautiful. I love that. And I love that.

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To me, it's too busy and, I suppose, for me,

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a picture without emotion, without some sense of

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emotion of the girl is not a very successful picture

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and so what I think is happening here

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is that it's like all this is taking over from

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Lenazy's emotional qualities.

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So you're just getting jazziness and you're not getting

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a sense of her character

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and here, you get a sense of her.

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And here.

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And here.

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It's too distracting. Thank God we've got two days

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and everybody's really good-natured, so it's good.

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So, just explain to me where you're off to now?

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So, it's really exciting. I'm going to the National Portrait Gallery

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to see, for the first time, the centenary exhibition

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being installed.

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-Hi.

-Hi.

-Come on in.

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I love that.

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-Oh, hello.

-Oh, hi, Alex. How are you?

-Hi.

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I feel very, very excited

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and...live about being part

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of this year of celebrating 100 years of Vogue.

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I mean, the quality is incredible.

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It looks better than I was expecting.

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-And I was expecting a lot.

-Oh, good, I'm really pleased.

0:21:410:21:44

I mean, I had very high expectations but it's exceeded them.

0:21:440:21:48

I mean, it's great to be in this position but,

0:21:480:21:51

you know, I'm having sleepless nights.

0:21:510:21:54

What time of night do you wake up?

0:21:550:21:57

About three normally.

0:21:580:22:00

You don't seem like someone who

0:22:000:22:02

-would carry much stress with you, though.

-No, I know.

0:22:020:22:04

It's amazing, that, isn't it?

0:22:040:22:07

I've never seemed like somebody who carries stress with me.

0:22:070:22:10

-But you do?

-Yeah.

0:22:100:22:12

And is that part of what makes you good at what you do,

0:22:150:22:17

-do you think?

-Oh, I don't know. How could I know?

0:22:170:22:21

You know, if somebody asked you that

0:22:210:22:24

question, you wouldn't know.

0:22:240:22:26

I don't think you have to be stressed to be good at something...

0:22:260:22:29

..at all. And stress is such a kind of annoying word anyway.

0:22:310:22:34

Now everybody is stressed, even though I use it, it's overused.

0:22:340:22:39

Is it anxiety then?

0:22:390:22:41

No, I feel a huge sense of responsibility to deliver,

0:22:420:22:48

that's what it is.

0:22:480:22:50

I just want to do what I think should be done.

0:22:500:22:54

March 15th. I've been in Vogue for seven months now

0:23:060:23:11

and what I've learned is this -

0:23:110:23:13

it's not really about the fashion for Alex.

0:23:130:23:16

It's about the competitive nature of journalism.

0:23:160:23:19

She pushed back the issue with Kate Moss on

0:23:190:23:21

the cover at the last

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minute and replaced it with Rihanna because

0:23:230:23:25

American Vogue had the singer on their cover the same month.

0:23:250:23:30

This seemed like a big thing at the time.

0:23:300:23:33

But now Alex says it was just a storm in a teacup.

0:23:330:23:36

Even so, it shows in this world, the magazine cover is everything.

0:23:360:23:41

OK, this is what I've been working on for

0:23:430:23:46

the centenary cover based on, like, a graphic idea.

0:23:460:23:48

-So we have these mocked up.

-Beautiful.

0:23:480:23:53

Yeah, that's my favourite one,

0:23:530:23:54

I think. I think that's really special.

0:23:540:23:57

And if we do this, if we do the white in like a matte...

0:23:580:24:01

This one's interesting. It's maybe not as good as that?

0:24:030:24:07

No, I think the white's the problem.

0:24:070:24:10

I mean, that's quite nice because it is, well,

0:24:100:24:14

it's very direct, isn't it?

0:24:140:24:16

That 100, you can see it's 100.

0:24:160:24:18

The only thing I'm not sure about this is

0:24:180:24:21

whether it's just a bit too understated.

0:24:210:24:24

I mean, it's very beautiful but are we...

0:24:240:24:27

Do we need to do something a bit more kind of...

0:24:290:24:33

Maybe celebrating a century of style isn't enough?

0:24:330:24:36

No, exactly. Maybe it should be sort of style,

0:24:360:24:38

fashion, fame and something or other.

0:24:380:24:41

You know, we should slightly oomph the words up a bit.

0:24:410:24:46

Quite a big decision, isn't it, the front cover of such an anniversary?

0:24:460:24:51

-Was it always your idea to have it as a graphic?

-Yeah.

0:24:510:24:53

How did one come to that decision?

0:24:530:24:56

Well, I just feel that it's very hard to pick a person who can

0:24:560:25:03

encapsulate 100 years of Vogue.

0:25:030:25:06

And we've done very well with sort of... Celebration issues

0:25:080:25:14

actually have historically not had a single figure on them,

0:25:140:25:21

so, in a way,

0:25:210:25:23

I'm continuing with a trend that we've already...

0:25:230:25:26

..that's a familiar one.

0:25:270:25:29

So is the decision that we'll continue working

0:25:300:25:32

on these two designs and I'll get the paper stock?

0:25:320:25:35

'I can't stop thinking about this announcement Alex is going to make.

0:25:350:25:39

'The first thought that came into my head

0:25:390:25:42

'was that she'll be throwing a surprise party

0:25:420:25:45

'for all her staff to say thanks for all their hard work.

0:25:450:25:48

'But I suppose it could be any number of things.

0:25:480:25:52

'Maybe she's going to tell everyone she's leaving.'

0:25:520:25:55

I think I'm going to

0:25:550:25:57

prefer what you've originally done but it might be good to...

0:25:570:26:01

'I wonder if anyone else in

0:26:010:26:02

'the office knows about this surprise announcement.

0:26:020:26:06

'For a moment today, I was

0:26:060:26:08

'going to ask one of the women on the features desk,

0:26:080:26:11

'but bottled it at the last minute.

0:26:110:26:14

'Instead, we talked at length about Cher's

0:26:140:26:16

'denim collection from the 1980s.'

0:26:160:26:20

That's Cher on a bed of feathers. Fake fraying that isn't

0:26:200:26:24

-quite on the knees.

-Is that a good look?

0:26:240:26:27

No, but it's a good throwback look, which is

0:26:270:26:31

a different thing.

0:26:310:26:32

I mean, this, if you squint, it could be Vetements,

0:26:340:26:39

which is a hot new brand.

0:26:390:26:42

-Could be what?

-Vetements.

0:26:420:26:44

Everyone's loving it right now.

0:26:440:26:46

Oh, right.

0:26:460:26:47

It's a good one.

0:26:470:26:49

They do really stiff denim and they do really great kind of oversized,

0:26:490:26:54

quite surreal streetwear.

0:26:540:26:57

-Right.

-Yeah.

0:26:570:26:58

-It's good. It's very expensive.

-Mmm.

-Yeah.

0:26:580:27:04

-Their jeans are about £750.

-Oh.

0:27:040:27:09

I know. But they're very...

0:27:090:27:12

You see them and you know that they are Vetements

0:27:120:27:15

because they've got this sort of funny, asymmetric finish.

0:27:150:27:19

'Julia has been here for five years and was recently promoted.

0:27:190:27:23

'She's part of Sarah's team and she writes articles for both

0:27:230:27:26

'the magazine and the website.'

0:27:260:27:28

What was the most expensive thing you ever bought?

0:27:280:27:31

My Prada red shearling coat.

0:27:330:27:36

It was the price of a second-hand Mini.

0:27:370:27:41

I wear it a lot. It's really warm.

0:27:450:27:48

-It's got big pockets.

-Do you love it?

0:27:480:27:51

I do quite love it. It's very red, though.

0:27:510:27:54

'I guess people like Julia and Sarah represent the future of Vogue.

0:27:540:27:59

'When Alex and Lucinda are gone,

0:27:590:28:01

'these two might well be in charge.'

0:28:010:28:03

'I wonder what Vogue would be like then.

0:28:100:28:12

'Would the magazine even exist in a few years' time?'

0:28:120:28:16

It's so beautiful. Very well done. And the light is great.

0:28:240:28:29

Mario Testino is doing a special shoot

0:28:290:28:32

for the centenary issue, which is a celebration

0:28:320:28:35

of each decade of the magazine's history.

0:28:350:28:38

This is 1910.

0:28:380:28:40

Another big shoot is a collection of

0:28:470:28:49

portraits of people Alex thinks are important

0:28:490:28:52

figures in British culture.

0:28:520:28:54

But as each new celebrity gets booked,

0:28:550:28:58

my heart sinks a little bit more.

0:28:580:29:01

Eddie Redmayne was a no.

0:29:020:29:05

Keira Knightley was a no.

0:29:050:29:07

Charlotte Rampling, posing with a chimp, was a no.

0:29:090:29:13

The photographer does not want me on set.

0:29:150:29:18

So you said you'd had a couple of hiccups?

0:29:200:29:22

Yes, unfortunately we were going to be shooting on Friday

0:29:220:29:26

and the model did not, er, turn up, which was a shame.

0:29:260:29:30

-So which was the model?

-I'm not sure if I should really say.

0:29:320:29:35

Why can't you say? SHE LAUGHS

0:29:380:29:40

I'm not sure that that would be appropriate to say, probably.

0:29:420:29:46

Um, who was being shot on Friday?

0:29:480:29:50

Who were the choices?

0:29:500:29:51

We were hoping to shoot Naomi Campbell on Friday,

0:29:510:29:54

-but, unfortunately, she did not make it.

-Oh.

0:29:540:29:56

And, um...

0:29:580:29:59

did she, did she give a good...good...good reason why?

0:29:590:30:02

Erm... I've yet to hear that reason, but I'm sure there will be one.

0:30:040:30:10

Oh, so it was just like... Well, she wasn't ill or anything,

0:30:100:30:12

-she just didn't turn up?

-I don't know. I don't know the...

0:30:120:30:15

I don't know the answer to that yet.

0:30:150:30:16

I'm sure we'll find out, but we're moving on to, you know,

0:30:160:30:21

other pictures.

0:30:210:30:22

Later, Rosie told me the reason why Naomi didn't make it

0:30:250:30:29

was because she got held up.

0:30:290:30:30

But she said the shoot was rescheduled

0:30:320:30:35

and the pictures were fabulous.

0:30:350:30:36

March 15.

0:30:420:30:43

Hooray(!)

0:30:430:30:45

We've finally been given access to a big celebrity shoot

0:30:450:30:49

and it's one everyone in the office is very excited about.

0:30:490:30:53

Patsy and Edina from the sitcom Ab Fab are doing a photoshoot

0:30:530:30:58

with Georgia May Jagger, daughter of Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall.

0:30:580:31:02

They're being shot by David Bailey,

0:31:040:31:07

but he's laid down some strict guidelines -

0:31:070:31:10

I mustn't shoot him and I mustn't shoot the shoot,

0:31:100:31:14

which actually makes things kind of impossible.

0:31:140:31:17

We're not allowed...

0:31:220:31:24

We're not being allowed to film any of the actual photos...

0:31:240:31:28

..so there's not much we can get from this.

0:31:300:31:33

No, I know.

0:31:330:31:35

What about the Mulberry all in white cream?

0:31:350:31:38

-Yeah, let's do that.

-Yeah?

-That would look nice.

0:31:380:31:40

Yeah, that's lovely.

0:31:400:31:41

That's a strong look.

0:31:440:31:45

Today, we are doing Vogue's 100-year anniversary photoshoot

0:31:450:31:50

for Absolutely Fabulous and it's a very exciting moment for me.

0:31:500:31:54

I'm sort of the model for Edina and Patsy, and they're styling me.

0:31:540:31:59

-They're styling you, are they?

-Yes.

-Oh, I see.

0:31:590:32:01

Right, so everything that you've been wearing,

0:32:010:32:04

they've chosen for you?

0:32:040:32:05

Yeah, they're styling me.

0:32:050:32:06

Oh, I don't know. We'll see.

0:32:080:32:10

-If I'm white, anything would go with that.

-Yep.

-Good.

0:32:100:32:13

'Did you watch it when you were growing up with your mum?

0:32:130:32:16

'Yeah, I used to watch it with my mum and my sister.'

0:32:160:32:18

We had it on VHS and sort of watched it over and over again.

0:32:180:32:20

I've seen every episode.

0:32:200:32:22

What was your mum's view about it?

0:32:220:32:24

I mean, my mum's always loved it. I mean, she loves both of them.

0:32:260:32:29

I mean, and I think...always Patsy's style,

0:32:290:32:33

the sort of chignon, always sort of reminded me of my mum, you know,

0:32:330:32:37

my mum's always smoked and stuff, so that kind of element of it.

0:32:370:32:42

But it is funny, because, you know,

0:32:420:32:44

fashion is ridiculous sometimes and that's the best part about it,

0:32:440:32:48

is it's, you know, making fun of something that is really funny.

0:32:480:32:51

And, also, both Patsy and your mum

0:32:510:32:53

share a romantic connection with the Stones.

0:32:530:32:55

-I can't talk about that.

-Oh, right. Sorry.

-No.

0:32:550:32:58

Erm... Erm...

0:32:580:33:00

Can I see in the mirror?

0:33:010:33:02

-I think she looks cool.

-Right, there you are.

0:33:050:33:08

I think I look cool.

0:33:080:33:10

-You look amazing.

-I think I look amazing.

0:33:100:33:12

-Have you got your shot?

-Yes, great. Thank you.

0:33:120:33:15

I think I look amazing.

0:33:150:33:17

'Do you know, it's everybody's idea of what fashion people are like,

0:33:200:33:23

'and they're larger than life and hilariously funny and,

0:33:230:33:26

'you know, falling out of cabs and doing all that malarkey,'

0:33:260:33:30

and, of course, we're, you know, very well-behaved in comparison,

0:33:300:33:34

but they, you know, they make it fun.

0:33:340:33:36

You must have fallen out of some cabs in your time.

0:33:360:33:38

Oh, I've fallen out of some cabs, yeah.

0:33:380:33:40

I've definitely fallen out of some cabs!

0:33:400:33:42

Is their portrayal of fashion, is it ludicrous

0:33:420:33:45

or is it rooted in reality?

0:33:450:33:47

It's probably a bit of both. I mean, I think those days of...

0:33:470:33:52

I think there were those days in the '80s, for sure,

0:33:520:33:55

and mad, you know, up all night and partying,

0:33:550:33:58

and we did have those days,

0:33:580:34:00

and I think it's very different now.

0:34:000:34:02

Everybody is incredibly professional now.

0:34:020:34:05

I think there's a lot of money at stake.

0:34:050:34:07

I think people's careers are taken very seriously, but for sure,

0:34:070:34:12

you know, like all good comedy, it's rooted in the truth.

0:34:120:34:16

-It's 100 years of Vogue this year.

-Yeah.

0:34:220:34:24

I mean, what a fantastic legacy.

0:34:240:34:26

-It's fantastic.

-It's fantastic.

-I mean, I remember when it started.

0:34:260:34:29

-Do you?

-Do I?

0:34:290:34:31

-No.

-No, I don't. I don't remember when it started,

0:34:310:34:33

but it just seems always to have been there, doesn't it?

0:34:330:34:36

-Vogue.

-Always just sort of been in our...in our zeitgeist.

0:34:360:34:41

Yeah. Always here, always in Vogue.

0:34:410:34:43

You two would remember the heyday of Vogue, I suppose,

0:34:430:34:46

the '60s and the '70s, is that right?

0:34:460:34:49

Well, yah, yah. I was pretty much, you know,

0:34:490:34:52

on every cover in those days.

0:34:520:34:54

I think...I think it was Vogue.

0:34:540:34:55

I'm probably too young to actually remember it,

0:34:550:34:57

-but I remember the idea of it.

-Yah.

-Hmm.

0:34:570:35:01

-Mainly.

-Yah.

0:35:010:35:02

Cos, you know, the great thing about Vogue,

0:35:020:35:04

especially American Vogue, is even if it's summer, it's always winter.

0:35:040:35:07

British Vogue, not American Vogue.

0:35:070:35:09

British Vogue isn't the same, it's always... It doesn't work.

0:35:090:35:12

-Spring when it's autumn.

-It doesn't work. Ho-ho, ho-ho!

0:35:120:35:15

And will Vogue be here in 100 years' time?

0:35:170:35:20

-Yah.

-Yes.

0:35:220:35:24

-And we'll be here to see it.

-But it's going to be online.

0:35:240:35:27

Online Vogue, yes. It'll be Vogue online.

0:35:270:35:30

Do you know what that means?

0:35:310:35:33

No, I don't.

0:35:330:35:34

At the Ab Fab shoot, for a while,

0:35:370:35:39

I couldn't decide what was real and what was fake.

0:35:390:35:43

I think what makes Patsy and Edina so likeable...

0:35:430:35:46

-BOTH:

-Happy birthday to Vogue!

0:35:460:35:49

-Yay!

-..is they both seem so out of kilter with the times.

0:35:490:35:52

-Why did she go, "Yay"?

-Hello?

0:35:520:35:53

LAUGHTER

0:35:530:35:55

'When you think about Vogue in, say, ten years' time, do you think

0:35:570:36:01

'there's a chance it might just be online or something like that?

0:36:010:36:04

'I don't know. I doubt it. I very much doubt it.'

0:36:040:36:08

You know, I know one has to change and I'm very, you know...

0:36:100:36:14

..you know, I can Google-ise with the rest of them

0:36:150:36:17

and I do realise ten years ago,

0:36:170:36:19

my assistant was having to print out e-mails.

0:36:190:36:22

What a bloody waste of paper that was, you know?

0:36:220:36:24

It's just embarrassing.

0:36:240:36:26

-This is lovely. This is a good place to start.

-Yeah.

0:36:330:36:36

When I was really young and when I was a secretary for

0:36:380:36:41

Beatrix Miller, one day she asked me if I would go and do

0:36:410:36:44

a little, tiny interview, like a tiny thing -

0:36:440:36:46

I think it was maybe my first thing for Vogue -

0:36:460:36:49

to interview Marcel Marceau, you know, the mime artist?

0:36:490:36:53

His character was called Bip and when I was leaving,

0:36:530:36:56

he drew me this cartoon.

0:36:560:36:58

And I found it in the scrapbook the other day and I framed it.

0:36:580:37:01

What does the card say?

0:37:010:37:03

It says, "To Lucinda, with love always, from Bip.

0:37:030:37:05

"Marcel Marceau, 1980."

0:37:050:37:07

God.

0:37:080:37:09

That's my mother.

0:37:120:37:13

She loved clothes.

0:37:140:37:16

I mean, when I was growing up, we'd go to Harrods and she'd have

0:37:160:37:19

a tape measure in her pocket and we used to try on

0:37:190:37:21

all the kids' clothes and then she used to sort of sketch them

0:37:210:37:25

and measure them, and then we'd go home and we'd buy the fabric

0:37:250:37:29

and we'd sort of make copies of them.

0:37:290:37:32

And... You know, she used to make me...

0:37:320:37:35

I remember every outfit I had.

0:37:350:37:37

I had, like, a snakeskin pinafore and I had a red patent leather

0:37:370:37:41

with a huge zip.

0:37:410:37:43

She put a huge zip in with a black turtleneck

0:37:430:37:45

and black patent shoes with a big buckle and, erm...

0:37:450:37:50

Yeah, I had a red patent one,

0:37:500:37:52

I had a black snakeskin one, I had another snakeskin one. Erm...

0:37:520:37:56

She used to make me amazing clothes.

0:37:560:37:59

And we made lots of things together, actually,

0:37:590:38:02

-and, and when, when...

-SHE CLEARS HER THROAT

0:38:020:38:06

I remember when she was...

0:38:060:38:08

Just before she died, I remember I was making a sort of mosaic table

0:38:080:38:12

in France and I made it out of all the plates that the boys

0:38:120:38:16

had, sort of, broken over the years, and I was grouting it,

0:38:160:38:19

and I suppose that really came from her.

0:38:190:38:22

She was so... You know, there was always a cornflake packet

0:38:220:38:26

cut up and made into a theatre,

0:38:260:38:27

there was always dolls' clothes made.

0:38:270:38:29

I mean, I played with dolls until a very inappropriate age.

0:38:290:38:33

Poppy's still doing that, actually,

0:38:330:38:34

you know, cutting their hair and making clothes for them.

0:38:340:38:37

So I guess, you know, that's a really...

0:38:370:38:39

You know, it's what we're still doing, really.

0:38:400:38:43

CHATTER

0:38:560:38:58

As I stood there, wondering if it would be all right

0:39:440:39:47

to have a glass of champagne and a canape,

0:39:470:39:50

I sensed I was in the middle of a very privileged world.

0:39:500:39:54

Everyone here was part of that exclusive club, the fashion crowd.

0:39:550:40:00

Elitism lies at the very heart of this world.

0:40:030:40:06

It's what makes fashion tick.

0:40:070:40:09

That's not to say people here haven't earned the privilege.

0:40:120:40:16

Many of them have.

0:40:160:40:17

But I wonder if they know when it's their time to go...

0:40:180:40:21

..when they've outstayed their welcome.

0:40:230:40:25

I'm very emotional about it, because it's not just the time

0:40:280:40:33

I've been editing Vogue, but it's kind of...

0:40:330:40:36

I feel like my childhood was on the walls and being here tonight

0:40:360:40:40

and seeing all the people that came from many years of Vogue life

0:40:400:40:44

coming into that room was, um...

0:40:440:40:46

..really something quite...quite extraordinary.

0:40:470:40:50

Alex and I always talk about, "How do you leave well?"

0:40:530:40:57

-And I don't think there's such a thing. Sadly, I don't.

-Really?

0:40:580:41:03

No, I think it's really hard.

0:41:030:41:05

I think if you're on top of your game,

0:41:050:41:07

you don't want to leave and there's no reason to, for leaving.

0:41:070:41:10

And then, you know, if you're slightly, sort of,

0:41:100:41:14

going down, you don't want to leave.

0:41:140:41:16

I mean, I hope...

0:41:160:41:18

I think there are other things in life that you think...

0:41:180:41:23

I don't know how you'd think, "That was my last shoot."

0:41:230:41:26

That's the bugger about fashion, is you just see more stuff that

0:41:260:41:29

you can do stuff with, so you're like, you know,

0:41:290:41:32

permanently excited, you know, to do the next shoot.

0:41:320:41:35

I think I will have to be told to leave, I'm sure.

0:41:360:41:39

-Have you worked out your exit strategy?

-No! I wish I had.

0:41:390:41:43

I'd love it if somebody could work out my exit strategy for me.

0:41:430:41:46

Well, they will, actually. That's a really stupid thing to say!

0:41:460:41:49

They will and I'll have to take it. That's fine. That's fine.

0:41:490:41:53

April.

0:42:110:42:13

The 250-page centenary issue of the magazine is complete.

0:42:130:42:19

What about we move the illustration?

0:42:190:42:21

The last thing before it's sent to the printers

0:42:210:42:24

is to finalise its running order.

0:42:240:42:26

Beckham before Ab Fab?

0:42:260:42:28

Yeah, I think, cos then it's another long, then Ab Fab.

0:42:280:42:31

Then the lifestyle. Quite like that.

0:42:360:42:39

Yeah.

0:42:430:42:44

-Yeah, that looks fine, actually. That's nice.

-Mmm. Doesn't it?

0:42:470:42:50

Cos you feel like it's really solid all the way through.

0:42:500:42:54

Let's do that.

0:42:560:42:57

OK.

0:42:590:43:00

How are you feeling, looking at your centenary edition

0:43:020:43:06

up there on the wall?

0:43:060:43:07

Yeah, it's amazing. I'm thrilled with it, actually.

0:43:070:43:09

I think it looks really great.

0:43:090:43:11

Erm...

0:43:110:43:13

It's amazing.

0:43:130:43:14

Everything in it is good.

0:43:170:43:19

And...I'm very proud of it. I think it's fantastic.

0:43:230:43:27

It's such a great...

0:43:310:43:32

This one edition is like a fantastic body of work.

0:43:320:43:34

It seems sad that it should be, sort of, a piece of ephemera, in a way.

0:43:340:43:38

It's not a piece of ephemera. Everyone's going to keep it.

0:43:380:43:41

It's a historical document.

0:43:430:43:45

There's nothing ephemeral about it.

0:43:470:43:50

It's a collector's item.

0:43:520:43:53

It'll be worth hundreds of thousands of pounds at some point.

0:43:540:43:58

I'm thrilled.

0:44:000:44:01

All I meant by that was fashion is ephemeral, isn't it? That's all.

0:44:030:44:06

No. But this is not about that.

0:44:060:44:10

This is about a continuum and that's the whole point of it -

0:44:100:44:14

that you have got this arc... Well, not even an arc, actually.

0:44:140:44:18

It's just soaring off into the future.

0:44:180:44:21

It's a bit like a sort of time capsule, isn't it?

0:44:210:44:23

That people can come back to in 200 years' time.

0:44:230:44:27

Hope so. Do you think they will?

0:44:270:44:29

They might not know what a magazine is, I suppose, in 200 years' time.

0:44:300:44:34

April 30th.

0:44:520:44:54

It's the day of Alex's surprise announcement.

0:44:540:44:57

I've been told to arrive at a secret location in central London

0:44:570:45:01

at six in the evening.

0:45:010:45:03

Thanks.

0:45:040:45:05

-Hello!

-Hi, Richard.

-How are you?

-Nice to see you again.

0:45:080:45:10

Hello. Hi. Good to see you.

0:45:100:45:13

Do you want to come through this way? There's been a slight change.

0:45:130:45:15

-Come through?

-Just through here, yes.

0:45:150:45:18

It's all very intriguing, this.

0:45:210:45:23

-Sorry?

-It is, isn't it?

0:45:230:45:25

'I had been speculating quite a lot about what Alex was going to say.

0:45:250:45:30

'But as I was escorted down this long corridor,

0:45:310:45:34

'I have to admit I had no real clue.

0:45:340:45:36

'The corridor led right to the heart of the National Portrait Gallery.

0:45:420:45:47

'But there was still no sign of Alex.'

0:45:520:45:54

-NEWS REPORTER:

-'It was announced today that the Duchess of Cambridge

0:46:080:46:11

'will feature on the front cover of British Vogue

0:46:110:46:13

'to mark the magazine's centenary.

0:46:130:46:14

'In her first sitting for a magazine,

0:46:140:46:16

'the Duchess is seen looking relaxed and wearing casual clothes.

0:46:160:46:20

'Alexandra Shulman, the editor in chief of British Vogue,

0:46:200:46:22

'said, "To be able to publish a photographic shoot

0:46:220:46:25

' "with the Duchess of Cambridge

0:46:250:46:26

' "has been one of my greatest ambitions for the magazine."

0:46:260:46:29

'The collaboration for the June edition had resulted in

0:46:290:46:32

' "a true celebration of our centenary..." '

0:46:320:46:35

Trust.

0:46:450:46:46

It's a critical ingredient in any successful documentary.

0:46:470:46:51

As a director, my job is to make the people I film feel they can

0:46:530:46:56

speak openly and honestly in an unfettered way.

0:46:560:46:59

But for some reason,

0:47:010:47:02

Alex felt she couldn't tell me about the royal photoshoot.

0:47:020:47:06

It wasn't just a case of withholding information.

0:47:080:47:11

She actively lied.

0:47:110:47:12

More than that, she developed an elaborate ruse.

0:47:130:47:17

This was filmed one month after the shoot with the Duchess of Cambridge.

0:47:200:47:24

-Yeah?

-Was it always your idea to have it as a graphic?

0:47:280:47:30

-Yeah.

-How did one come to that decision?

0:47:300:47:32

Well, I just feel that it's very hard to, erm...

0:47:320:47:36

..to pick a person who can encapsulate 100 years of Vogue.

0:47:390:47:43

Celebration issues actually have historically not had

0:47:450:47:50

a single figure on them, so, erm...

0:47:500:47:52

..in a way, I'm continuing with a trend that we've already...

0:47:560:48:00

..that's a familiar one.

0:48:010:48:03

My managing editor, Fran, knew about it...

0:48:290:48:33

..and Rosie, because she had to organise

0:48:350:48:39

all the logistics on the shoot,

0:48:390:48:42

and Lucinda, who was styling the shoot.

0:48:420:48:45

So, for a long time, only...only them.

0:48:450:48:50

Well, I filmed you and Jamie talking about a cover with a graphic.

0:48:500:48:52

Yeah, yeah, the cover that we produced.

0:48:520:48:55

I've watched the rushes back of that particular scene.

0:48:550:48:57

I have to say, you're quite convincing.

0:48:570:48:59

-Good. Good liar, right?

-Yeah.

0:48:590:49:02

Did you feel a bit awkward about that at the time?

0:49:040:49:07

No... I didn't.

0:49:070:49:09

'The centenary issue of the magazine has hit the shelves

0:49:120:49:15

'and it's selling like hot cakes.

0:49:150:49:17

'It's made me aware that Alex is still at the top of her game.

0:49:170:49:21

'Far from announcing her retirement,

0:49:220:49:24

'she's pulled off a major journalistic coup.

0:49:240:49:27

'I asked Alex if it would be all right to film her doing

0:49:310:49:34

'something that wasn't related to her work, something personal.

0:49:340:49:38

'She came back to me and said she'd like to take me to Hyde Park.'

0:49:390:49:42

When I was a very small child, every afternoon, we'd come to the park.

0:49:470:49:52

This tree here is the tree that we'd play around.

0:49:520:49:57

I remember being so small that...

0:49:570:50:00

..you could kind of get inside the hollows of the tree.

0:50:020:50:05

So this is the hole, is it? HE CHUCKLES

0:50:060:50:08

No, it's down here. This.

0:50:080:50:11

It's that you were small enough that you could stand in, like,

0:50:110:50:16

here, and it would feel like you were in a cave.

0:50:160:50:20

I mean, I know I wanted to get married and have kids

0:50:320:50:35

and I do clearly remember, at some point in my life, not wanting a life

0:50:350:50:39

like my mother, not wanting to be working, rushing out the door in

0:50:390:50:43

the morning, trying to get the food organised for the evening, rushing

0:50:430:50:46

home at night, cooking dinner, and I did exactly the same thing as her.

0:50:460:50:50

I mean, you know, exactly the same as her,

0:50:500:50:53

and I actually remember walking round this park with her,

0:50:530:50:57

walking round the lake and just kind of giving her a really hard time,

0:50:570:51:00

you know, "I don't know why you make your life so hard.

0:51:000:51:02

"Why do you try and do so much?" you know?

0:51:020:51:05

"I'm not going to be like you."

0:51:050:51:07

But now, you know, if you ask me about careers

0:51:090:51:15

and having a job and everything or...

0:51:150:51:17

not a career, but having something that you're engaged in,

0:51:170:51:21

something that means something to you,

0:51:210:51:24

that's sort of, that you're doing...

0:51:240:51:27

You know, I increasingly realise how important that is.

0:51:270:51:30

I was sitting on a plane yesterday and I was looking at a woman,

0:51:300:51:36

a young woman, sort of in the...

0:51:360:51:38

across the aisle, and she was very, very pretty and, erm...

0:51:380:51:43

..and she was with a sort of, a guy, I don't know what he was.

0:51:470:51:51

He was hugely tall.

0:51:510:51:52

I mean, he could have been, like, a baseball player

0:51:520:51:54

or something or other, you know, American footballer

0:51:540:51:57

or something or other.

0:51:570:51:58

And I was kind of, in my mind, you know, I was making

0:51:580:52:01

a story up about her and I was thinking,

0:52:010:52:03

well, she doesn't work.

0:52:030:52:04

She's his girlfriend or his wife, but she's travelling around with him

0:52:040:52:10

and she's very, very pretty, but...

0:52:100:52:13

she's not going to be able to keep those looks,

0:52:130:52:15

you know, her looks will go,

0:52:150:52:18

and I hope she's doing something else

0:52:180:52:21

and not just being his companion,

0:52:210:52:24

because, you know, that must be so brutal for people

0:52:240:52:29

who rely upon how they look to define themselves.

0:52:290:52:33

You know, when you age, you just...

0:52:350:52:38

that just goes, and then what have you got left?

0:52:380:52:41

And I was just thinking, "Well, you know, I'm very lucky.

0:52:410:52:43

"I've never defined myself by how I look."

0:52:430:52:46

Erm...

0:52:460:52:47

So, there hasn't been that much to go,

0:52:470:52:50

and, erm...I've done something else.

0:52:500:52:54

So I guess I did feel a sort of achievement at that strange moment

0:52:540:52:59

on the flight from Geneva.

0:52:590:53:01

I just want to see how small she is,

0:53:360:53:38

cos they're always much smaller than I think.

0:53:380:53:40

-(She's coming now.)

-Charlotte.

0:53:400:53:41

I know, I was...

0:53:480:53:50

I don't think I went to bed until 3am.

0:53:500:53:54

Hi, how are you? So nice to see you.

0:53:540:53:57

-Can I get a quick picture for Instagram?

-Yeah.

0:53:570:54:01

May 21st.

0:54:020:54:04

We need the flash.

0:54:040:54:05

When I first started filming with Alex nine months ago,

0:54:050:54:09

I asked her what she thought of the reality TV star Kim Kardashian.

0:54:090:54:13

She said she didn't think she was particularly interesting.

0:54:140:54:18

But Alex also told me she changes her mind quite a bit.

0:54:220:54:26

Kim has been invited to speak at the Vogue Festival,

0:54:270:54:31

which has been organised by Alex.

0:54:310:54:33

It's part of the final weekend of celebrations.

0:54:340:54:38

I'm changing this one around here, actually.

0:54:430:54:46

-In a situation like this...

-Yeah?

-..is there, like, a top table?

0:54:480:54:52

-Well, sometimes there is. I'm trying to avoid that...

-Right.

0:54:520:54:57

..because then you have a problem with people feeling, if they're not

0:54:570:55:00

on the top table, why aren't they on the top table?

0:55:000:55:03

And there's that thing of "that much closer to God"

0:55:030:55:05

that I'm trying to avoid as well.

0:55:050:55:06

It was one of those things that they said in Sardinia

0:55:060:55:10

when the Aga Khan's yacht was...

0:55:100:55:12

And then there was this pecking order as to

0:55:120:55:14

who was more next to the Aga Khan's yacht and, you know,

0:55:140:55:17

the less important you were, the further down the harbour you went.

0:55:170:55:20

That much closer to God you've got to get.

0:55:200:55:23

So I'm trying to avoid the "that much closer to God" situation

0:55:230:55:28

by distributing people who are, sort of,

0:55:280:55:32

well-known throughout the tables,

0:55:320:55:34

but also distributing the tables themselves

0:55:340:55:38

so that you don't have a kind of cluster.

0:55:380:55:41

I noticed you've put, on one of the tables,

0:55:410:55:44

Samantha Cameron with Kim Kardashian.

0:55:440:55:46

That'll be an interesting combo.

0:55:460:55:48

Interesting is also good!

0:55:490:55:51

-What was your thinking behind that?

-That it would be interesting.

0:55:510:55:54

Also, more to the point there,

0:55:540:55:56

actually, that Samantha would be with Jonathan,

0:55:560:55:59

and Jonathan is the head of Conde Nast,

0:55:590:56:01

so she would be with the person that's, you know,

0:56:010:56:06

the head of the whole thing,

0:56:060:56:08

which would be appropriate for the wife of the Prime Minister.

0:56:080:56:13

We've got Marie Helvin...

0:56:130:56:14

I thought we sat her.

0:56:160:56:17

Not yet, I think I moved her,

0:56:170:56:19

because I thought maybe she should be...

0:56:190:56:21

'Welcome to British Vogue's centenary dinner.

0:56:340:56:40

'I'm Nicholas Coleridge, president of Conde Nast International,

0:56:400:56:44

'and we are thrilled that you are here at our 100th birthday party.

0:56:440:56:49

'Very few magazines make it to 100 years and even fewer

0:56:510:56:58

'as stronger today than at any earlier time in their history,

0:56:580:57:03

'but that is the case with Vogue.'

0:57:030:57:06

Obviously and undeniably, how incredibly lucky we have been

0:57:080:57:14

in the editor of Vogue over the past quarter-century, Alexandra Shulman.

0:57:140:57:19

APPLAUSE

0:57:200:57:22

She has edited the magazine for exactly one quarter

0:57:370:57:41

of the magazine's life and it is no coincidence that

0:57:410:57:45

the past 25 years have been the most successful in Vogue's history -

0:57:450:57:50

creatively, financially, in circulation and in reputation.

0:57:500:57:56

It is my pleasure to introduce

0:57:560:57:58

the editor in chief of British Vogue, Alex Shulman.

0:57:580:58:02

APPLAUSE

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