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So this has never happened before in your career? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
No. Never anything this dramatic. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
Would it have impacted your sales, do you think? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I don't think it would have been | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
helpful to have two covers on the news stand | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
at the same time of the same person within the same market. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Which is the publication that is competing with you? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
I think it's Vogue in America. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
It's quite a sort of combative move, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
on her behalf, to bring her edition earlier. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Yeah, I suppose. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
I'm actually interviewing Anna Wintour tomorrow. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
She won't know about it. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Please don't say anything. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
We were not going to talk of that. You said we weren't | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
-going to talk about this any more. -Oh, OK. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
-Sorry. -No, but you did. -All right. Sorry. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
February the 23rd, 2016. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Sometimes, I wonder if a woman | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
might have been a better choice to make this series. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Alex phoned this morning in a furious mood, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
threatening to pull the whole project. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
She's angry that I might talk to | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
Anna Wintour is about the Rihanna cover when I | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
interview her today. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
She thinks I'm about to betray confidential information. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
But the last thing I want to do is get on the wrong side | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
of the editor in chief of British Vogue. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
So, you were at British Vogue for a while. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-What memories have you got? -Very short time! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
What memories have you got of that time? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Well, I had a lot of fun, you know. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
I came here very determined to bring an American spirit | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
and an American sensibility to the pages. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
At that time, there was no online. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
I look back on that time and think, how crazy was I? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
I mean, what's so wonderful about what Alexandra does | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
and what the editors before her have done | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
is they've really celebrated | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
the British spirit, and that's what each Vogue | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
should do, is represent the country that they | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
are being published in. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
You know, I always use a | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
quote that Ralph Lauren gave me many, many years ago. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
You can't be too hot and you can't be too cold. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
You just have to be part of the conversation. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Vogue is a worldwide name | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
and being steward of that name means just that, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
finding that balance between the future of fashion | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
and what's existing right now. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
And Alexandra does that with enormous intelligence | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and integrity. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
I think... I hope she stays forever. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
January the 25th. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
When you think of a fashion icon, you wouldn't automatically | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
think of a man who has a white ponytail and wears | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
fingerless leather gloves, would you? | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
But that's the thing about Karl Lagerfeld. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
He defies classification. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Alex has invited me to a private meeting with him. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
So what's happening with these guys? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
She's always having one-to-ones with the top designers. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
She gets to see their collections the night before a show. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
I've been told Chanel's haute couture | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
outfits cost over £10,000 each. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
This person has to be presented to Karl before doing anything. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
OK. Fine, fine, fine. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
-I've got to meet him personally? -Yes. With the camera down. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-Oh, right. OK. -It's more polite to be introduced before the show. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Oh, OK. Right, fine. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
-Really? -This one is a very good one. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-So beautiful, Karl. -Quite right. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
So it's a tribute to nature, yes? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
We've suddenly got very ecologically... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-That is so pride. -What is made of? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-They are like little bits of wood. -It's wood? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-Paper-thin, yeah. -It's wood? -I love it that | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
you've got the beads down, the golden beads down here. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
-It's incredible. -It's incredible. We are showing... -Oh, wow. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
That's like paper embroidery. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Can you walk until I see the length? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
It's incredible. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
Can I just ask you one quick question? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Have you known Alex a long time? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
I understand not one word with all the noise here. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Oh, sorry. Have you known Alex a long time? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-Quite a long time. -Since she was a baby. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-100 years! -Quite a long time but, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
you know, we are always about today, not about yesterday. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
Exactly. Karl's a great one for | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
-looking to the future, aren't you? -Yeah. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
In fashion, the future is six months, six months, six months. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
That's not created on the past. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
Because I didn't know if you liked cats. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
-I have a cat. I like my cat. -You want a Choupette? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
-I'd love a Choupette as well. -You want a Choupette? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-Yeah. -Good. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
-Oh, thank you very much. -Is that your cat? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-Yes. -Karl loves his cat. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
This is the hologram in a rock crystal. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Of Choupette? No! | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-Yes. -Can I see? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-It's here. -Oh, my God. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-It's your cat! -What's that picture of? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-His cat. -It's my cat. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Choupette. That's unbelievable. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-Alexandra. -Now, Karl, I've got to | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
get you to London for our birthday, one way or | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
another, otherwise I'll have to have Choupette instead. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
How's it going back at base? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
You seem a bit like you've got a lot on your mind. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I'm in a car with the film crew, late for a show. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
What's up? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
Yeah. Have you got any news? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
'Tonight, Alex left in quite a brusque way | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
'after our filming with Karl Lagerfeld.' | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
No, but they can't hear what you are saying, and I'm | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
about to hang up. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
'Sometimes, I feel like I'm treading on eggshells.' | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Oh, OK. No, I'll ring you in a moment, then. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
I'm going to get out of the car in a second anyway, OK? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I'll ring you right back. OK. Bye. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
All right. Listen, I've got to go, all right? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
'Mind you, in just four months, the centenary | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
'issue of the magazine will be published, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
'there is an exhibition at the National Portrait Gallery | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
'and a huge gala dinner will take place in Hyde Park. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
'This must be the most intense six months of her career.' | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
January the 26th. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Today, I hung out with Sarah Harris. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Sarah is one of Vogue's rising stars. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
She attends all the shows and then she writes reviews | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
of the collections for the magazine. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
I was surprised how famous she is. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
She's got a huge Instagram following. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
If you look at her profile, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
you see the quintessential glamorous life, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
exotic sandy beaches, skiing in the Alps, sports cars. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
That was a bit crazy, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
being photographed by all those photographers, wasn't it? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Yes, it can get a bit intense, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
I suppose, when there's quite so many of them. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
Do you... Is there a part of you that quite | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-likes being noticed like that? -I don't mind it, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
like, in the afternoon, I don't mind it, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
because I feel like my face has woken up a bit, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
but I don't know, in the morning it's a bit intense, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
when you're kind of half asleep | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
and not so keen on having your picture taken. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
So that's a photograph that is already gone up on Twitter. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-On Instagram. -On Instagram? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Yeah. They posted it. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
I remember really loving shoes | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
from a really young age and being really excited to get, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
you know, new term school shoes | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
and going to Russell & Bromley | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and I used to obsess over keeping them clean | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
and pristine and I'd keep them in the box. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
I'd wear them for a day, clean them off. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
I was, like, five years old. Put them back in the box. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
And then, yeah, as soon as they got a grass stain on them, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
I'd be devastated. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
And I'm still a bit like that with my clothes and my shoes. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
I really like these Manolos. I love those. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
I'll have those forever, wear them forever. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
I really like these Celines... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
..with the gold toe cap. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
My uniform is really pretty much jeans and a shirt, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
more or less, every day at work. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Or jeans and a T-shirt or jeans and a cashmere jumper. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Have you got a lot of jeans? | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Yeah. I've got, um... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
More than ten pairs? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
80? 82? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
-82 pairs? -Yeah. -Of jeans? -Yeah. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-I've got a lot. -82 pairs of jeans? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Yeah, and I try to sort of | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
make a cull and throw lots out but they're | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
so kind of imbued with memories, you know, it's | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
hard to get rid of them. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
But I do fill up bin liners probably four times a year | 0:10:48 | 0:10:55 | |
and take them down to the charity shop. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
I'll bring you the Vogue thing. So let's start, then. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
February 10th. I bought the last ever copy of the men's | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
magazine FHM today. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
It has Holly Willoughby on the cover. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Like all publications, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Vogue can't just rely on the magazine any more. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
The website is key. The online team communicate | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
with a new generation of Vogue reader through Snapchat, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Instagram and Twitter. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
But they're banned from using modern social media parlance | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
like emojis and exclamation marks. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Then there's Vogue Video, the online channel. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Today, they're shooting a feature called Inside My Wardrobe. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
It felt a bit cannibalistic, me stood there filming them, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
filming themselves. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Hi, everyone. And, so, just to have a recap on | 0:11:49 | 0:11:57 | |
the state of play in all these centenary endeavours. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
Rather frighteningly, it's sort of becoming real. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
'It's funny being in a place | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
'where so much emphasis is on the future because, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
'ironically for Alex, her immediate future is being dominated | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
'by the past and the multitude of events lined up to celebrate it.' | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
Is there any thought, this being our centenary year, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
I think, have we not got a Vogue 100 T-shirt? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Is that right or not? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
-We are asking... -We've got a Vogue everything. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
What I'm doing is approaching four or five different | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
young British designers to see if they would all | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
do 100 limited-edition T-shirts. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-Right. -Couldn't Topshop do it? Just so that, I just | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
think the exclusive product is very high-end | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
and we need to speak to a wider audience, really, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
so maybe we have to have something from a... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
I think you get one brand to do one T-shirt. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Topshop, we've spoken to before. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I don't think it should be Topshop, actually, even if it's one brand. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-Or H&M? -Well, I don't know, I mean, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
if we're going to just do one T-shirt, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
we probably, although we want it to be at a lower price point, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
we probably want it to be quite a special T-shirt, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
so not just, you know, a sort of Fruit of the Loom | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
T-shirt with Vogue 100 written on it. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
That's why I thought the designer ones would be kind of special | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
because they could all do their own interpretation, you know. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
'This afternoon, I received a call out of | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
'the blue from the Vogue press office. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
'They've asked me to film an event at the end of | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
'April but they won't tell me what it is. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
'All I know is that Alex is going to be making an announcement. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
'They've told me I mustn't | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
'discuss this with anyone, not even Alex.' | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
The fashion director, Lucinda, has been at | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Vogue even longer than Alex and she's invited me | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
on what I've calculated to be her 422nd shoot. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
It is with the next big thing, a teenager from the | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Dominican Republic called Lenazy. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Since it began 100 years ago, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
only a handful of black models have appeared on | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
the cover of British Vogue. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
You know, you'll have a show season that everybody will be from | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Holland or everybody will be from Brazil, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
but in the last few seasons, there's been an | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
incredible mix and for us, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
it's a blessing, because we're not | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
limiting ourselves. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
So, it's brilliant to have that diversity. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
How are you? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
'Patrick Demarchelier has been | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
'photographing for Vogue since the 1970s.' | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
-How are you, Patrick? -Good, good. -Are you? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Yeah, fantastic. You look fantastic. You look younger. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
That's such shit, Patrick, cos I've just got off a flight. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-So are we doing Lego, a Lego story? -We are doing a Lego story. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-I'm going to sort out the clothes and then I'll show you. -OK. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
So, that's great. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
-It's amazing how much stuff you need for one shoot. -Fabulous. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
This is quite little. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Most people would have double this. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
It's just great. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
They've all got to hang like soldiers, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
like a beautiful army... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
a beautiful army of a story. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
I love those pants. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
OK, well, before I do anything... | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
If we like the length, the height, the width. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
It's amazing. You look incredible. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
-I mean, I think it really brings out your beauty. -OK, let's go for this. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
I'm not even going to try the little one on because... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
No. And you know what I love, Sam? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
-I love this texture in here with this texture. -OK. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
-Oh, my God, I think you look incredible. -Great. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Nice, sexy, nice. And down, something like that. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-Very easy. -Eyes to the side. Don't move your face. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Turn this way. Turn to face me a bit more. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Too much. Now straight. Very straight. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Don't move any of that. That? Just like that? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
Beautiful. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
That's beautiful. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
Don't move too much. Easy, easy. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
'In my time, when I started, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
'there were these supermodels and they | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
'were really huge personalities. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
'Super glamorous - Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
'And then after that came more of a fragile, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
'less healthy beauty, in a way. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
'Less obviously healthy. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
'So, your eye kind of changes as these girls come through | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
'and I think what's difficult about right now | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
'is that they come and they go.' | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
What's wonderful about, say, five years ago, ten years ago, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
there was a longevity to girls and you could watch them develop | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
and flourish and grow, and hate modelling | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
and then come back to modelling, and they'd do something else | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
and return to it and now what you see is a much faster pace. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Watch the hand on the leg, Patrick. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Just so it's more relaxed. Just... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
'It's almost as if the industry isn't | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
'giving them a chance to grow into their own skin.' | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I think it's all... It's not, it feels... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I'm not sure of it. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Patrick, I'm just going to put her foot in the shoe more. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-I still think it was better before. -This one? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Lenazy, I think if you can make this foot not tilt up, if possible. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
She could even pull it forward a bit. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
-No, not that far forward. -No. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Or just like point it down. Bring it back up and point it down. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
Bring this leg back up. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
-And then point the toe down. -No, this one. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-I think you've got to feel... -You've got to go the other way. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
You've got to lean on that hand, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
like you are there and then that hand stays there. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Richard, sorry, can we just sort of, give us a moment. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
We could be a while. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
That's beautiful. I love that. And I love that. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
To me, it's too busy and, I suppose, for me, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
a picture without emotion, without some sense of | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
emotion of the girl is not a very successful picture | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
and so what I think is happening here | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
is that it's like all this is taking over from | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
Lenazy's emotional qualities. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
So you're just getting jazziness and you're not getting | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
a sense of her character | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
and here, you get a sense of her. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
And here. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
And here. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
It's too distracting. Thank God we've got two days | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
and everybody's really good-natured, so it's good. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
So, just explain to me where you're off to now? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
So, it's really exciting. I'm going to the National Portrait Gallery | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
to see, for the first time, the centenary exhibition | 0:20:53 | 0:20:59 | |
being installed. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-Hi. -Hi. -Come on in. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
I love that. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
-Oh, hello. -Oh, hi, Alex. How are you? -Hi. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
I feel very, very excited | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
and...live about being part | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
of this year of celebrating 100 years of Vogue. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
I mean, the quality is incredible. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
It looks better than I was expecting. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-And I was expecting a lot. -Oh, good, I'm really pleased. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
I mean, I had very high expectations but it's exceeded them. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
I mean, it's great to be in this position but, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
you know, I'm having sleepless nights. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
What time of night do you wake up? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
About three normally. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
You don't seem like someone who | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
-would carry much stress with you, though. -No, I know. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
It's amazing, that, isn't it? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
I've never seemed like somebody who carries stress with me. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
-But you do? -Yeah. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
And is that part of what makes you good at what you do, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-do you think? -Oh, I don't know. How could I know? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
You know, if somebody asked you that | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
question, you wouldn't know. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
I don't think you have to be stressed to be good at something... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
..at all. And stress is such a kind of annoying word anyway. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Now everybody is stressed, even though I use it, it's overused. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
Is it anxiety then? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
No, I feel a huge sense of responsibility to deliver, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
that's what it is. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
I just want to do what I think should be done. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
March 15th. I've been in Vogue for seven months now | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
and what I've learned is this - | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
it's not really about the fashion for Alex. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
It's about the competitive nature of journalism. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
She pushed back the issue with Kate Moss on | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
the cover at the last | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
minute and replaced it with Rihanna because | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
American Vogue had the singer on their cover the same month. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
This seemed like a big thing at the time. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
But now Alex says it was just a storm in a teacup. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Even so, it shows in this world, the magazine cover is everything. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
OK, this is what I've been working on for | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
the centenary cover based on, like, a graphic idea. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
-So we have these mocked up. -Beautiful. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Yeah, that's my favourite one, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
I think. I think that's really special. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
And if we do this, if we do the white in like a matte... | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
This one's interesting. It's maybe not as good as that? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
No, I think the white's the problem. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
I mean, that's quite nice because it is, well, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
it's very direct, isn't it? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
That 100, you can see it's 100. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
The only thing I'm not sure about this is | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
whether it's just a bit too understated. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
I mean, it's very beautiful but are we... | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Do we need to do something a bit more kind of... | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Maybe celebrating a century of style isn't enough? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
No, exactly. Maybe it should be sort of style, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
fashion, fame and something or other. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
You know, we should slightly oomph the words up a bit. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
Quite a big decision, isn't it, the front cover of such an anniversary? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
-Was it always your idea to have it as a graphic? -Yeah. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
How did one come to that decision? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Well, I just feel that it's very hard to pick a person who can | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
encapsulate 100 years of Vogue. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
And we've done very well with sort of... Celebration issues | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
actually have historically not had a single figure on them, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:21 | |
so, in a way, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
I'm continuing with a trend that we've already... | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
..that's a familiar one. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
So is the decision that we'll continue working | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
on these two designs and I'll get the paper stock? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
'I can't stop thinking about this announcement Alex is going to make. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
'The first thought that came into my head | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
'was that she'll be throwing a surprise party | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
'for all her staff to say thanks for all their hard work. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
'But I suppose it could be any number of things. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
'Maybe she's going to tell everyone she's leaving.' | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I think I'm going to | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
prefer what you've originally done but it might be good to... | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
'I wonder if anyone else in | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
'the office knows about this surprise announcement. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
'For a moment today, I was | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
'going to ask one of the women on the features desk, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
'but bottled it at the last minute. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
'Instead, we talked at length about Cher's | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
'denim collection from the 1980s.' | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
That's Cher on a bed of feathers. Fake fraying that isn't | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
-quite on the knees. -Is that a good look? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
No, but it's a good throwback look, which is | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
a different thing. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
I mean, this, if you squint, it could be Vetements, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
which is a hot new brand. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
-Could be what? -Vetements. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Everyone's loving it right now. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Oh, right. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
It's a good one. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
They do really stiff denim and they do really great kind of oversized, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
quite surreal streetwear. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-Right. -Yeah. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
-It's good. It's very expensive. -Mmm. -Yeah. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
-Their jeans are about £750. -Oh. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
I know. But they're very... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
You see them and you know that they are Vetements | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
because they've got this sort of funny, asymmetric finish. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
'Julia has been here for five years and was recently promoted. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
'She's part of Sarah's team and she writes articles for both | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
'the magazine and the website.' | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
What was the most expensive thing you ever bought? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
My Prada red shearling coat. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
It was the price of a second-hand Mini. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I wear it a lot. It's really warm. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-It's got big pockets. -Do you love it? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
I do quite love it. It's very red, though. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
'I guess people like Julia and Sarah represent the future of Vogue. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
'When Alex and Lucinda are gone, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
'these two might well be in charge.' | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
'I wonder what Vogue would be like then. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
'Would the magazine even exist in a few years' time?' | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
It's so beautiful. Very well done. And the light is great. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
Mario Testino is doing a special shoot | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
for the centenary issue, which is a celebration | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
of each decade of the magazine's history. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
This is 1910. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Another big shoot is a collection of | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
portraits of people Alex thinks are important | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
figures in British culture. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
But as each new celebrity gets booked, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
my heart sinks a little bit more. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Eddie Redmayne was a no. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Keira Knightley was a no. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
Charlotte Rampling, posing with a chimp, was a no. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
The photographer does not want me on set. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
So you said you'd had a couple of hiccups? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Yes, unfortunately we were going to be shooting on Friday | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
and the model did not, er, turn up, which was a shame. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
-So which was the model? -I'm not sure if I should really say. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Why can't you say? SHE LAUGHS | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
I'm not sure that that would be appropriate to say, probably. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Um, who was being shot on Friday? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Who were the choices? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
We were hoping to shoot Naomi Campbell on Friday, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
-but, unfortunately, she did not make it. -Oh. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
And, um... | 0:29:58 | 0:29:59 | |
did she, did she give a good...good...good reason why? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Erm... I've yet to hear that reason, but I'm sure there will be one. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
Oh, so it was just like... Well, she wasn't ill or anything, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
-she just didn't turn up? -I don't know. I don't know the... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I don't know the answer to that yet. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
I'm sure we'll find out, but we're moving on to, you know, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
other pictures. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
Later, Rosie told me the reason why Naomi didn't make it | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
was because she got held up. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
But she said the shoot was rescheduled | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and the pictures were fabulous. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
March 15. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Hooray(!) | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
We've finally been given access to a big celebrity shoot | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
and it's one everyone in the office is very excited about. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
Patsy and Edina from the sitcom Ab Fab are doing a photoshoot | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
with Georgia May Jagger, daughter of Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
They're being shot by David Bailey, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
but he's laid down some strict guidelines - | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
I mustn't shoot him and I mustn't shoot the shoot, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
which actually makes things kind of impossible. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
We're not allowed... | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
We're not being allowed to film any of the actual photos... | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
..so there's not much we can get from this. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
No, I know. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
What about the Mulberry all in white cream? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-Yeah, let's do that. -Yeah? -That would look nice. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Yeah, that's lovely. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
That's a strong look. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
Today, we are doing Vogue's 100-year anniversary photoshoot | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
for Absolutely Fabulous and it's a very exciting moment for me. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
I'm sort of the model for Edina and Patsy, and they're styling me. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
-They're styling you, are they? -Yes. -Oh, I see. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Right, so everything that you've been wearing, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
they've chosen for you? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
Yeah, they're styling me. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
Oh, I don't know. We'll see. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
-If I'm white, anything would go with that. -Yep. -Good. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
'Did you watch it when you were growing up with your mum? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
'Yeah, I used to watch it with my mum and my sister.' | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
We had it on VHS and sort of watched it over and over again. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
I've seen every episode. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
What was your mum's view about it? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
I mean, my mum's always loved it. I mean, she loves both of them. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
I mean, and I think...always Patsy's style, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
the sort of chignon, always sort of reminded me of my mum, you know, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
my mum's always smoked and stuff, so that kind of element of it. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
But it is funny, because, you know, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
fashion is ridiculous sometimes and that's the best part about it, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
is it's, you know, making fun of something that is really funny. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
And, also, both Patsy and your mum | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
share a romantic connection with the Stones. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-I can't talk about that. -Oh, right. Sorry. -No. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Erm... Erm... | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Can I see in the mirror? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
-I think she looks cool. -Right, there you are. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
I think I look cool. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-You look amazing. -I think I look amazing. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
-Have you got your shot? -Yes, great. Thank you. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
I think I look amazing. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
'Do you know, it's everybody's idea of what fashion people are like, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
'and they're larger than life and hilariously funny and, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
'you know, falling out of cabs and doing all that malarkey,' | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
and, of course, we're, you know, very well-behaved in comparison, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
but they, you know, they make it fun. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
You must have fallen out of some cabs in your time. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Oh, I've fallen out of some cabs, yeah. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I've definitely fallen out of some cabs! | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Is their portrayal of fashion, is it ludicrous | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
or is it rooted in reality? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
It's probably a bit of both. I mean, I think those days of... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
I think there were those days in the '80s, for sure, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
and mad, you know, up all night and partying, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
and we did have those days, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
and I think it's very different now. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
Everybody is incredibly professional now. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
I think there's a lot of money at stake. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
I think people's careers are taken very seriously, but for sure, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
you know, like all good comedy, it's rooted in the truth. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
-It's 100 years of Vogue this year. -Yeah. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I mean, what a fantastic legacy. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-It's fantastic. -It's fantastic. -I mean, I remember when it started. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-Do you? -Do I? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
-No. -No, I don't. I don't remember when it started, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
but it just seems always to have been there, doesn't it? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
-Vogue. -Always just sort of been in our...in our zeitgeist. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
Yeah. Always here, always in Vogue. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
You two would remember the heyday of Vogue, I suppose, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
the '60s and the '70s, is that right? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Well, yah, yah. I was pretty much, you know, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
on every cover in those days. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I think...I think it was Vogue. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
I'm probably too young to actually remember it, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
-but I remember the idea of it. -Yah. -Hmm. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
-Mainly. -Yah. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
Cos, you know, the great thing about Vogue, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
especially American Vogue, is even if it's summer, it's always winter. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
British Vogue, not American Vogue. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
British Vogue isn't the same, it's always... It doesn't work. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-Spring when it's autumn. -It doesn't work. Ho-ho, ho-ho! | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
And will Vogue be here in 100 years' time? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-Yah. -Yes. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
-And we'll be here to see it. -But it's going to be online. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Online Vogue, yes. It'll be Vogue online. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Do you know what that means? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
No, I don't. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
At the Ab Fab shoot, for a while, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I couldn't decide what was real and what was fake. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
I think what makes Patsy and Edina so likeable... | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
-BOTH: -Happy birthday to Vogue! | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
-Yay! -..is they both seem so out of kilter with the times. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
-Why did she go, "Yay"? -Hello? | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
'When you think about Vogue in, say, ten years' time, do you think | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
'there's a chance it might just be online or something like that? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
'I don't know. I doubt it. I very much doubt it.' | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
You know, I know one has to change and I'm very, you know... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
..you know, I can Google-ise with the rest of them | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
and I do realise ten years ago, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
my assistant was having to print out e-mails. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
What a bloody waste of paper that was, you know? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
It's just embarrassing. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
-This is lovely. This is a good place to start. -Yeah. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
When I was really young and when I was a secretary for | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Beatrix Miller, one day she asked me if I would go and do | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
a little, tiny interview, like a tiny thing - | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
I think it was maybe my first thing for Vogue - | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
to interview Marcel Marceau, you know, the mime artist? | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
His character was called Bip and when I was leaving, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
he drew me this cartoon. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
And I found it in the scrapbook the other day and I framed it. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
What does the card say? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
It says, "To Lucinda, with love always, from Bip. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
"Marcel Marceau, 1980." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
God. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
That's my mother. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
She loved clothes. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
I mean, when I was growing up, we'd go to Harrods and she'd have | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
a tape measure in her pocket and we used to try on | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
all the kids' clothes and then she used to sort of sketch them | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
and measure them, and then we'd go home and we'd buy the fabric | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
and we'd sort of make copies of them. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
And... You know, she used to make me... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
I remember every outfit I had. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
I had, like, a snakeskin pinafore and I had a red patent leather | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
with a huge zip. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
She put a huge zip in with a black turtleneck | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
and black patent shoes with a big buckle and, erm... | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
Yeah, I had a red patent one, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
I had a black snakeskin one, I had another snakeskin one. Erm... | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
She used to make me amazing clothes. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
And we made lots of things together, actually, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
-and, and when, when... -SHE CLEARS HER THROAT | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
I remember when she was... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Just before she died, I remember I was making a sort of mosaic table | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
in France and I made it out of all the plates that the boys | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
had, sort of, broken over the years, and I was grouting it, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
and I suppose that really came from her. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
She was so... You know, there was always a cornflake packet | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
cut up and made into a theatre, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
there was always dolls' clothes made. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
I mean, I played with dolls until a very inappropriate age. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
Poppy's still doing that, actually, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
you know, cutting their hair and making clothes for them. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
So I guess, you know, that's a really... | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
You know, it's what we're still doing, really. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
CHATTER | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
As I stood there, wondering if it would be all right | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
to have a glass of champagne and a canape, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
I sensed I was in the middle of a very privileged world. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Everyone here was part of that exclusive club, the fashion crowd. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
Elitism lies at the very heart of this world. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
It's what makes fashion tick. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
That's not to say people here haven't earned the privilege. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Many of them have. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
But I wonder if they know when it's their time to go... | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
..when they've outstayed their welcome. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
I'm very emotional about it, because it's not just the time | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
I've been editing Vogue, but it's kind of... | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
I feel like my childhood was on the walls and being here tonight | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
and seeing all the people that came from many years of Vogue life | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
coming into that room was, um... | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
..really something quite...quite extraordinary. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Alex and I always talk about, "How do you leave well?" | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
-And I don't think there's such a thing. Sadly, I don't. -Really? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
No, I think it's really hard. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
I think if you're on top of your game, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
you don't want to leave and there's no reason to, for leaving. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
And then, you know, if you're slightly, sort of, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
going down, you don't want to leave. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
I mean, I hope... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
I think there are other things in life that you think... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
I don't know how you'd think, "That was my last shoot." | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
That's the bugger about fashion, is you just see more stuff that | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
you can do stuff with, so you're like, you know, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
permanently excited, you know, to do the next shoot. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
I think I will have to be told to leave, I'm sure. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
-Have you worked out your exit strategy? -No! I wish I had. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
I'd love it if somebody could work out my exit strategy for me. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Well, they will, actually. That's a really stupid thing to say! | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
They will and I'll have to take it. That's fine. That's fine. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
April. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
The 250-page centenary issue of the magazine is complete. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:19 | |
What about we move the illustration? | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
The last thing before it's sent to the printers | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
is to finalise its running order. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Beckham before Ab Fab? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Yeah, I think, cos then it's another long, then Ab Fab. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Then the lifestyle. Quite like that. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Yeah. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
-Yeah, that looks fine, actually. That's nice. -Mmm. Doesn't it? | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Cos you feel like it's really solid all the way through. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Let's do that. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
OK. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
How are you feeling, looking at your centenary edition | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
up there on the wall? | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
Yeah, it's amazing. I'm thrilled with it, actually. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
I think it looks really great. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
Erm... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
It's amazing. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
Everything in it is good. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
And...I'm very proud of it. I think it's fantastic. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
It's such a great... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
This one edition is like a fantastic body of work. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
It seems sad that it should be, sort of, a piece of ephemera, in a way. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
It's not a piece of ephemera. Everyone's going to keep it. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
It's a historical document. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
There's nothing ephemeral about it. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
It's a collector's item. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:53 | |
It'll be worth hundreds of thousands of pounds at some point. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
I'm thrilled. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
All I meant by that was fashion is ephemeral, isn't it? That's all. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
No. But this is not about that. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
This is about a continuum and that's the whole point of it - | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
that you have got this arc... Well, not even an arc, actually. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
It's just soaring off into the future. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
It's a bit like a sort of time capsule, isn't it? | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
That people can come back to in 200 years' time. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
Hope so. Do you think they will? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
They might not know what a magazine is, I suppose, in 200 years' time. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
April 30th. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
It's the day of Alex's surprise announcement. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
I've been told to arrive at a secret location in central London | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
at six in the evening. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Thanks. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
-Hello! -Hi, Richard. -How are you? -Nice to see you again. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
Hello. Hi. Good to see you. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
Do you want to come through this way? There's been a slight change. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
-Come through? -Just through here, yes. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
It's all very intriguing, this. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
-Sorry? -It is, isn't it? | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
'I had been speculating quite a lot about what Alex was going to say. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
'But as I was escorted down this long corridor, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
'I have to admit I had no real clue. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
'The corridor led right to the heart of the National Portrait Gallery. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
'But there was still no sign of Alex.' | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
-NEWS REPORTER: -'It was announced today that the Duchess of Cambridge | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
'will feature on the front cover of British Vogue | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
'to mark the magazine's centenary. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:14 | |
'In her first sitting for a magazine, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
'the Duchess is seen looking relaxed and wearing casual clothes. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
'Alexandra Shulman, the editor in chief of British Vogue, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
'said, "To be able to publish a photographic shoot | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
' "with the Duchess of Cambridge | 0:46:25 | 0:46:26 | |
' "has been one of my greatest ambitions for the magazine." | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
'The collaboration for the June edition had resulted in | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
' "a true celebration of our centenary..." ' | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
Trust. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:46 | |
It's a critical ingredient in any successful documentary. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
As a director, my job is to make the people I film feel they can | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
speak openly and honestly in an unfettered way. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
But for some reason, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
Alex felt she couldn't tell me about the royal photoshoot. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
It wasn't just a case of withholding information. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
She actively lied. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:12 | |
More than that, she developed an elaborate ruse. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
This was filmed one month after the shoot with the Duchess of Cambridge. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
-Yeah? -Was it always your idea to have it as a graphic? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
-Yeah. -How did one come to that decision? | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
Well, I just feel that it's very hard to, erm... | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
..to pick a person who can encapsulate 100 years of Vogue. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
Celebration issues actually have historically not had | 0:47:45 | 0:47:50 | |
a single figure on them, so, erm... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
..in a way, I'm continuing with a trend that we've already... | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
..that's a familiar one. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
My managing editor, Fran, knew about it... | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
..and Rosie, because she had to organise | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
all the logistics on the shoot, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
and Lucinda, who was styling the shoot. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
So, for a long time, only...only them. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:50 | |
Well, I filmed you and Jamie talking about a cover with a graphic. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Yeah, yeah, the cover that we produced. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
I've watched the rushes back of that particular scene. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
I have to say, you're quite convincing. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
-Good. Good liar, right? -Yeah. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
Did you feel a bit awkward about that at the time? | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
No... I didn't. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
'The centenary issue of the magazine has hit the shelves | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
'and it's selling like hot cakes. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
'It's made me aware that Alex is still at the top of her game. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
'Far from announcing her retirement, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
'she's pulled off a major journalistic coup. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
'I asked Alex if it would be all right to film her doing | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
'something that wasn't related to her work, something personal. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
'She came back to me and said she'd like to take me to Hyde Park.' | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
When I was a very small child, every afternoon, we'd come to the park. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
This tree here is the tree that we'd play around. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
I remember being so small that... | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
..you could kind of get inside the hollows of the tree. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
So this is the hole, is it? HE CHUCKLES | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
No, it's down here. This. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
It's that you were small enough that you could stand in, like, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:16 | |
here, and it would feel like you were in a cave. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
I mean, I know I wanted to get married and have kids | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
and I do clearly remember, at some point in my life, not wanting a life | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
like my mother, not wanting to be working, rushing out the door in | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
the morning, trying to get the food organised for the evening, rushing | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
home at night, cooking dinner, and I did exactly the same thing as her. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
I mean, you know, exactly the same as her, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
and I actually remember walking round this park with her, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
walking round the lake and just kind of giving her a really hard time, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
you know, "I don't know why you make your life so hard. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
"Why do you try and do so much?" you know? | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
"I'm not going to be like you." | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
But now, you know, if you ask me about careers | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
and having a job and everything or... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
not a career, but having something that you're engaged in, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
something that means something to you, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
that's sort of, that you're doing... | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
You know, I increasingly realise how important that is. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
I was sitting on a plane yesterday and I was looking at a woman, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:36 | |
a young woman, sort of in the... | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
across the aisle, and she was very, very pretty and, erm... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
..and she was with a sort of, a guy, I don't know what he was. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
He was hugely tall. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:52 | |
I mean, he could have been, like, a baseball player | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
or something or other, you know, American footballer | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
or something or other. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:58 | |
And I was kind of, in my mind, you know, I was making | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
a story up about her and I was thinking, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
well, she doesn't work. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:04 | |
She's his girlfriend or his wife, but she's travelling around with him | 0:52:04 | 0:52:10 | |
and she's very, very pretty, but... | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
she's not going to be able to keep those looks, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
you know, her looks will go, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
and I hope she's doing something else | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
and not just being his companion, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
because, you know, that must be so brutal for people | 0:52:24 | 0:52:29 | |
who rely upon how they look to define themselves. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
You know, when you age, you just... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
that just goes, and then what have you got left? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
And I was just thinking, "Well, you know, I'm very lucky. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
"I've never defined myself by how I look." | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
Erm... | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
So, there hasn't been that much to go, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
and, erm...I've done something else. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
So I guess I did feel a sort of achievement at that strange moment | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
on the flight from Geneva. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
I just want to see how small she is, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
cos they're always much smaller than I think. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
-(She's coming now.) -Charlotte. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:41 | |
I know, I was... | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
I don't think I went to bed until 3am. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
Hi, how are you? So nice to see you. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
-Can I get a quick picture for Instagram? -Yeah. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
May 21st. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
We need the flash. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
When I first started filming with Alex nine months ago, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
I asked her what she thought of the reality TV star Kim Kardashian. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
She said she didn't think she was particularly interesting. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
But Alex also told me she changes her mind quite a bit. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
Kim has been invited to speak at the Vogue Festival, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
which has been organised by Alex. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
It's part of the final weekend of celebrations. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
I'm changing this one around here, actually. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
-In a situation like this... -Yeah? -..is there, like, a top table? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
-Well, sometimes there is. I'm trying to avoid that... -Right. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
..because then you have a problem with people feeling, if they're not | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
on the top table, why aren't they on the top table? | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
And there's that thing of "that much closer to God" | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
that I'm trying to avoid as well. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:06 | |
It was one of those things that they said in Sardinia | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
when the Aga Khan's yacht was... | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
And then there was this pecking order as to | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
who was more next to the Aga Khan's yacht and, you know, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
the less important you were, the further down the harbour you went. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
That much closer to God you've got to get. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
So I'm trying to avoid the "that much closer to God" situation | 0:55:23 | 0:55:28 | |
by distributing people who are, sort of, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
well-known throughout the tables, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
but also distributing the tables themselves | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
so that you don't have a kind of cluster. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
I noticed you've put, on one of the tables, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
Samantha Cameron with Kim Kardashian. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
That'll be an interesting combo. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
Interesting is also good! | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
-What was your thinking behind that? -That it would be interesting. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
Also, more to the point there, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
actually, that Samantha would be with Jonathan, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
and Jonathan is the head of Conde Nast, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
so she would be with the person that's, you know, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
the head of the whole thing, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
which would be appropriate for the wife of the Prime Minister. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
We've got Marie Helvin... | 0:56:13 | 0:56:14 | |
I thought we sat her. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:17 | |
Not yet, I think I moved her, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
because I thought maybe she should be... | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
'Welcome to British Vogue's centenary dinner. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:40 | |
'I'm Nicholas Coleridge, president of Conde Nast International, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
'and we are thrilled that you are here at our 100th birthday party. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
'Very few magazines make it to 100 years and even fewer | 0:56:51 | 0:56:58 | |
'as stronger today than at any earlier time in their history, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
'but that is the case with Vogue.' | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
Obviously and undeniably, how incredibly lucky we have been | 0:57:08 | 0:57:14 | |
in the editor of Vogue over the past quarter-century, Alexandra Shulman. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
She has edited the magazine for exactly one quarter | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
of the magazine's life and it is no coincidence that | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
the past 25 years have been the most successful in Vogue's history - | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
creatively, financially, in circulation and in reputation. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:56 | |
It is my pleasure to introduce | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
the editor in chief of British Vogue, Alex Shulman. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 |