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MUSIC: Rebel Rebel by David Bowie. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:21 | |
Hello, and welcome to Books That Made Britain - | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
books that capture the essence of the places where we live. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
I am here in the glorious DH Lawrence country | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
and my home county, Nottinghamshire. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
I have chosen three excellent books. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Each of these authors could be described as a working-class rebel. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Furthermore, as a master storyteller. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
Here's what is coming up... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
A book that caused a sensation... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
"Don't let the BLEEP get you down." | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
..and put the backstreets of Nottingham on the map. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
A funny, subversive, teenage diary tapped out on an old | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
typewriter. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Neither Sue nor I thought it might be big but it just exploded. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It became an international multi-million bestseller. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
And a revolutionary story of life in the pits... | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
It depicts that industrial close-knit community. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
..now rated as one of the best novels of | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
all time. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Before the end of the show I have the impossible task of having | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
to pick a favourite from those three. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
We begin here in Nottingham with a novel that caused quite a | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
stir when it was first published in 1958. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:38 | |
Saturday Night And Sunday Morning by Alan Sillitoe. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
"I am me and nobody else. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Whatever people think I am or say I am, that is what I am not | 0:01:45 | 0:01:51 | |
because they don't know a bloody thing about me." | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
It's the story of rebellious factory worker Arthur Seaton. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
A drinker, a fighter and a lover determined to win at whatever cost. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:03 | |
Here, fighting the corner for Saturday Night And Sunday Morning, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
is local writer Nicky Monaghan. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
When I opened that book and read it for the first | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
time when I was about 15, it was the first time I saw | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
something in a book that I really recognised. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
It was a bit of a revolutionary moment | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
because I thought, I can be a writer. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
I think Arthur Seaton's refusal to be defined. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
He is rebellious but if you ever called | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
him a rebel, he would say, no, you do not know who I am. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
That is typical of a Nottingham mentality. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:43 | |
Like Arthur, Alan Sillitoe his creator, never liked being labelled. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
# Magic moments... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
He would say, I am no Arthur Seaton but he | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
certainly knew plenty of him. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Raised in Radford, a close-knit working-class community | 0:02:59 | 0:03:09 | |
in Nottingham, he simply called himself an observer. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
"It was my home ground that surrounded me with an | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
intensity and integrity that no other place has been able to gice." | 0:03:13 | 0:03:19 | |
On leaving school, he began working at | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Raleigh Bikes. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
"It was with a sense of wonder and adventure that I went to | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
work in a factory at 14. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I didn't want to go but I was resigned to it." | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
The shop floor spoke and the young Alan listened. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:39 | |
I should say repetition work without good mates around | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
you could be very, very boring. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
Roll on 4.30. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
One time I used to get satisfaction out of it but it becomes | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
a matter of routine now. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Best part of the week? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Friday, mostly. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
The idea of going to work in the factory | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
held no fears for me. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
Being given my own place to work at 17 was | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
a big step up. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:07 | |
On the playground and now in the factory I daydreamed | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
and fixed the faces, habits and histories | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
of the people around me in | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
my mind. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Almost without realising it. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Certainly not knowing the use I would one day put it to. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It would lead to the creation of a book that | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
caused a sensation and a character called Arthur Seaton. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
"Factories sweat you to death, labour exchanges | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
talk you to death. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Insurance and income tax officers milk money from | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
your wage packets and rob you to death. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
If you are still left with a | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
tiny bit of life in your guts after, the army calls you up | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
and you get shot to death." | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning was revolutionary. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
The stories of everyday people and their lives | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
had never been told before with such gritty realism. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
He wrote very honestly. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
It wasn't confected, it was from the heart. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
I think when we look back over 20, 30, 40,50 years | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
this is one of the peaks. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
This is one of the great British novels that, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
I think, obviously came at exactly the right time. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
It connected with people deeply and made difference. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Much of the city David's father new and captured on the | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
page has disappeared. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:29 | |
But the memories of factory workers who knew David's father and | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
lived in the real world of Saturday night and Sunday morning | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
remain as fresh as ever. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Work was hard and it was dull and it was boring and it was | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
repetitive and it was... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
It was a means. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
It was a means to the Friday night. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
You used to just have fun. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Rock 'n' roll music in the street. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
If somebody was playing it, you stood there and jived. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
You did not care who was watching. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
If you spoke from anybody from Radford at my age, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
they would all say they | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
the same thing. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
The story was exactly as we lived it, or wanted to live it. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
# Good golly, Miss Molly. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
You live for the weekend. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
You live for Friday and Saturday. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
You blew everything. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:30 | |
"The rowdy gang of singers who sat at the scattered tables, saw | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Arthur walk unsteadily to the head of the stairs. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
I know they must have known he was dead drunk and seen the | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
danger he would soon be in. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
No one attempted to talk to him and lead | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
him back to his seat." | 0:06:44 | 0:06:51 | |
He drank to excess. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:59 | |
He absolutely drank to excess. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
"With 11 pints of beer and seven small gins | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
playing hide and seek inside his stomach, he fell | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
from the topmost stair to the bottom." | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
# Good golly, Miss Molly. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
If they weren't at the pub, they were in the bookies. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
There were lots of Arthur Seatons. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
"Piled up passions were exploded on Saturday night and the | 0:07:23 | 0:07:32 | |
affect of a week's graft graft in the factory was swilled | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
out of your system in a burst of goodwill." | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
If you were at it, so to speak. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
You were found out, you could not say, that is it then, we are | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
separated now. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
I am going to live somewhere else. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
There was nowhere to go. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
Particularly the lady of the house. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
If she got caught, she had to live with the consequences. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:58 | |
There were quite a few fat lips, weren't there? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:07 | |
If you go back to the reviews and the response | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
of the critics at the time, they | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
were knocked out by the veracity and the authenticity of it. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
A lot of the writing at that time was almost | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
semidetached from the environment and the social context. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Alan was true to his word. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
I think that made it, not autobiographical, but | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
authentic. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
That was its power. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, it actually give us an identity | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
because it went national. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
It made us feel as though we were important | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
people to have lived around there. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
That's how it made us feel. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:48 | |
The book remains powerful and resonated with | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
the next generation of readers. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
There was a scene on the estate where my Grandma lived and all of | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
these places that I knew and I couldn't believe that someone had | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
written a book and put these places that I knew in a book. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
It just changed my whole view of what literature was. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Arthur's really interesting because he is not a socialist. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
He is anti-everything. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
He is, whoever you are, you're after doing me down and | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
I'm not going to be defined by you. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
He isn't into the union, but he hates the bosses. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
"Me, all I am out for is a good time. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
All the rest is propaganda." | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Author Seaton is the kind of person that my grandma would | 0:09:31 | 0:09:38 | |
have said got the cheek of the devil. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Nikki met her hero and even got to know him a little before he | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
died in 2010. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
She says he remained a defiant character. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
He was a man of quiet rebellion. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
I think it was definitely part of him. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
"Once a rebel, always a rebel." | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
I was at school here when I first read our next book. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
It made a real impression. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
I was a little bit older than our hero, he was 13 3/4. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:13 | |
The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole really struck a chord. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
It was funny, smart and subversive. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:22 | |
"I've realised I've never seen a dead body. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Or a real female nipple. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
This is what comes with living in a cul-de-sac." | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
A classic line there from Adrian Mole, which is set here | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
in Leicester. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
I am on Atley Way just, outside the library about to | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
meet local writer Bali Rai. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
It's a library Sue Townsend knew and loved. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
Choosing to voice her opinions and her thoughts through the eyes of | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Adrian, a narcissistic teenager, that was pretty clever. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
It is wonderful because you can say stuff | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
that you want to say and touch on things that aren't quite your | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
viewpoints. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
In a really, really easy and clever way. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Also, teenagers are so earnest about the world. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
When I fell in love for the first time, no one had | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
been in love like that before. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Adrian does that with Pandora and everything else is very earnest | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
and real. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
He feels it deeply. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:25 | |
Bali was aged around 10 3/4 when he first | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
read Secret Diary and it had a massive impact. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
The book was huge. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
It was the first time I ever considered that I could possibly | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
become an author. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
I had also was wanted to be one and dreamt of it because | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
of the likes of Roald Dahl, CS Lewis and stuff. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
They were untouchable. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Sue Townsend was a woman from my city whose kids had come | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
from my school and others. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
They were people who were every day and she was | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
writing about the neighbours. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
There were even Asian characters in the book. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Something quite extraordinary at that time. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
"At the end of the tea, Mr Singh | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
made a speech about how great it was to be British. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Everyone cheered and sang Land of Hope and Glory. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:17 | |
But only Mr Singh knew all of the words." | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Leicester is the most multi-racial city in the UK. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
The idea that there was a Mr Singh character, especially | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
for me from a Sikh background, was a massive factor. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
In the clip he is the only person in that room that | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
knows all the world to Land of Hope and Glory. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
There was no other faces like Mr Singh. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
He was a revelation. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:43 | |
It was like seeing a member of my own | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
family in the book. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
Today, he is fulfilling a lifelong ambition. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
He has come to the University of | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
Leicester library's special collections department. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
Here they look after the entire Sue Townsend archive. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
This is the original manuscript of the Secret Diary of | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Adrian Mole. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
This is... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:04 | |
It is stunning. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
It is stunning to be able to see this. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
For this book, there is | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
just one draft manuscript and this is it. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
It is astonishing. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:17 | |
It is like our Magna Carta or Shakespeare's | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
first folio. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
There are a couple of things that you might notice on that | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
front page. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
He is called Nigel Mole and he is 14 and three quarters. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
He is indeed. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
It is hard to describe because when I was 11, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
12, I used to | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
sit and reading the books and I used to wonder how Sue wrote them. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
What did they look like? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
What did they actually do? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I have just been | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
smiling since I saw it. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
The name was changed on the advice of the BBC and | 0:13:48 | 0:13:55 | |
her publisher to avoid comparison with Nigel Molesworth, a fictional | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
schoolboy. | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
It is a real snapshot of a particular time | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and this idea that you are | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
almost hovering over her shoulder and I can almost imagine her sitting | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
there doing it, maybe listening to the radio telling the kids to be | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
quiet or whatever. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
It is an astonishing feeling. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
If we go on through the manuscript, it starts to get a | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
little bit scrappy and this is very typical of how she wrote during this | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
part of her career. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
These block capital letters, lots of crossing | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
out, revisions. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Lots of notes and revisions. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:35 | |
This man, Sue Townsend's husband, was actually in the kitchen | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
trying to read that manuscript and prepare | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
it for the publisher. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
She couldn't type. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
I had to type it. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I can't type either, but I can type with one hand. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
It was done on a really old type-writer, not a computer, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
and when you made a mistake you had to Tipp-Ex it out. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
That was a slow process, wasn't it? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
I read it for the first time as a whole book as I was typing it. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Neither Sue nor I thought it would be big, but the publisher | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
was quite happy with it. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
And it just exploded. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
It became a huge bestseller, all over the world, translated | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
into 30 different languages. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
The book also spawned a radio show, a TV series and even, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
most recently, a musical. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:36 | |
# Everyone will know the tap, it'll put me on the map. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
# What a piece of poetry. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
The vanity and self obsession of Adrian was a gift | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
for illustrator Caroline Holden. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
One of the things I thought of initially was to have a mirror | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
where the writing was done in the steam, so I think I stood | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
in the flat where I was living, steaming up the window | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
and writing on it. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
I never wanted to draw Adrian. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Cos I had him in my head and I know with books, when you're reading | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
them, and it's a character that's quite strong, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I don't necessarily want to have that person drawn. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
My skin's dead good. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
I think it must be a combination of being in love and...Lucozade. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:22 | |
It was a dream job to have, really. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
It was just so full of fun, laughter, but also very serious, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
serious issues as well. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
It was a lovely job to have. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Sue Townsend once said, "No amount of balsamic vinegar | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
or Prada handbags will make me forget what it was like to be poor" | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
and while the Secret Diary of Adrian Mole is achingly funny, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
it's also intensely political. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
MUSIC: Two Tribes by Frankie Goes To Hollywood. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:58 | |
People sat on the fence, waiting to see which way this battle | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
is going to go. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
It's very political. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:11 | |
Sue was a socialist. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
And she makes that point loads of times. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
Didn't like Margaret Thatcher. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
None of us did. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:26 | |
I'm not sure how I'll vote. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Sometimes, I think Mrs Thatcher is a nice, kind sort of woman. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
Then, the next day, I see her on television | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
and she frightens me rigid. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
She's got eyes like a psychotic killer, but a voice | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
like a gentle person. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
It is a bit confusing. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
She was able to make very, very sharp commentary | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and observations about British society under Thatcher, | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
during the 1980s, but in a warm-hearted and humorous way | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
and I think the readership really connected to that. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Start fighting and let's all get together. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:13 | |
When she passed away, I think a lot of the coverage | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
and certainly a lot of the articles about her kind of glossed over | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
the fact that she was a rebel. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
And I loved that about her. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
# My name up in lights, what an intellectual man. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
# I'll be. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
It will endure forever. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
Absolutely. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:43 | |
I can't imagine it not. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
Yours faithfully, Adrian Albert Mole. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
It's a classic, isn't it? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
It a modern classic. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
I think that's the way people see it. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
What is the book you'd recommend? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Share your suggestion using the hashtag #LoveToRead | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and see what other books people have been talking about. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Set here in North Nottinghamshire, our final book, Sons And Lovers, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
takes us back 100 years but it's still as fresh and vibrant | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
and relevant today. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
It's a true literary classic. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
Sons And Lovers was written by DH Lawrence, the son of a miner born | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
in a back-to-back terrace house just over there in Eastwood. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Said to be his most autobiographical work, it describes life in the pits, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
a mother's love for her son and a quest to rise | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
above working-class roots. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
"On Sunday mornings, he would get up and prepare breakfast. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
The fire was never let to go out. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
He toasted his bacon on a fork, and caught the drops of fat | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
on his bread. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Then he put the rasher on a thick slice of bread and cut off | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
chunks with a clasp knife, poured tea into his | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
saucer and was happy." | 0:19:55 | 0:20:02 | |
Sons and Lovers is that rare thing. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
It's a working-class novel written by somebody | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
who grew up working class. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
It's full of authentic detail about the way | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
of life in this community. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
It reproduces speech patterns, habits and routines of life, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
so it's very authentic in that sense. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
There were seven in the Lawrence family and David Herbert Lawrence | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
was born in the back streets of Eastwood in a miner's | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
cottage, now a museum. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
The kitchen is a very kind of small place. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
It's a place where the family gathered, because it was the warmest | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
place in the house, it always had the fire going. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
And often there's a feeling of claustrophobia in the way that | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Lawrence uses the kitchen. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
A lot of the things that happen in Sons And Lovers happen | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
in the kitchen. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Particularly the arguments in the kitchen, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
the blazing rows. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
A fine mess. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Dos't think I'm goin' to sit wi' my arms danglin', | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
cos tha's got a parson for tea wi' thee? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
SHOUTING. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Whinnying! | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
Just like in Sons And Lovers, the Lawrence home was cramped, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
noisy and lacked privacy. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
We think that they shared those facilities with three | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
or four families who lived along the same row. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
There's no garden. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
It is just a shared yard which was probably beaten earth | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
and there'd be children out there playing, it | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
would be smelly, dirty, very busy, no privacy whatsoever. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
But the deprivations at home where nothing compared | 0:21:43 | 0:21:51 | |
-- But the deprivations at home were nothing compared | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
to the brutal life underground. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Sons And Lovers was published in 1913 and for the first time, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
middle-class readers discovered just how hard and back-breaking | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
the life of the miner was. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Mining and pit life is the framework of the whole novel because it | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
depicts that industrial, close-knit community. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Very hard living and that, you don't know where the next | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
penny is coming from. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Just like in the novel, Lawrence's father was a butty, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
a sort of self-employed foreman. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
I mean to have it out. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:42 | |
Catch me up. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
What he does, he's a middleman between the coal | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
company and the men. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
He actually employs teams of colliers to get the coal | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
out and he takes a cut. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
What I've always loved about the novel is just how | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
graphically realistic, how intimate the portrayals | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
of working-class life, the mining community are in it. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
That's the thing that strikes anybody who reads the novel. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
It commemorates working-class life and it presents working class life | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
for a middle-class readership. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
"The sun was going down. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Every open evening, the hills of Derbyshire were blazed | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
over with red sunset. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
Mrs Morrell watched the sun sink from the glistening sky, leaving | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
a soft, flower blue overhead. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
While the western space went red, several of the fire | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
had swung down there." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
There's a real feeling, not only for the gritty reality | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
of working life but also of the beautiful surrounding | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
countryside around here. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Of the way that the agricultural world was so close to the industrial | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
world, of how one could escape from this world | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
into another world beyond. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
The Lawrence family escaped by moving up the housing | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
ladder within Eastwood, something else reflected | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
in Sons And Lovers, with homes like this. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
It's called The Bottoms in the opening to Sons and lovers. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
It's an end terrace with a plot of garden to the side of it and it's | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
a sign that the Lawrence family was moving up in the world. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Lawrence of course would eventually leave Eastwood for good. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
He travelled and lived all over the world and died in France. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:46 | |
For quite a whil, Eastwood resented the way their town had been depicted | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
in Sons And Lovers and Lawrence retaliated by saying | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
he hated the damn place. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
But these days Eastwood relishes and even raises | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
a glass to DH Lawrence. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
Yes, here you can get yourself a pint of Mellors named | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
after the lusty gamekeeper in Lady Chatterley's Lover. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
But I'm not just here for a drink. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
I'm also here to learn about the language of Lawrence. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Round here you'll hear lots of words from Lawrence's work. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
But what about the more obscure phrases, like scraightin? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
Did you know that meant to weep uncontrollably or slive, to creep up | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
behind someone stealthily, or perhaps my favourite, clat-fart. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
Not what you think. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
In fact, it just means gossip. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
THEY READ FROM LAWRENCE. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:40 | |
Drama students at the town's Hall Park Academy have been | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
discovering their own personal connections with the | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
language of Lawrence. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
Were there any specific words that you relate to, that you actually say | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and you actually use in your own everyday language? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Owt. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
What do you use owt for? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
What does it mean? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
Instead of anything. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
If somebody offers you food, you'd say, I don't want owt. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:13 | |
Yes, brilliant and we say that all the time. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
The language is so rich, it's very much how they speak now, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
even if the students won't admit that. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
They'll say, oh, no, I don't really understand, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
don't really talk like that, but once they start actually reading | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
it and looking deeper into it, they realise that that is actually | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
how they speak, they use a lot of the language, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
they use a lot of the words. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:39 | |
You have to pick up all the old phrases and it's very hard. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:46 | |
My mum grew up in Eastwood so she shortens words | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
a lot of the time. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
And these students share something else with Lawrence | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
and Sons And Lovers - a burning desire to leave Eastwood. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
When I'm older I want to act, so I want to get somewhere | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
where it's easier for me to pursue my dreams. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
There's not a lot here to do, so maybe we'll move away and explore | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
the country or the world or go to university or | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
something like that. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
I think Sons And Lovers recreates and reproduces a very | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
intimate, glimpse of a world that is now lost to us. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
Now, this is the really tricky bit. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
I need to decide which of the three brilliant books that we've featured | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
in the programme is my favourite. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
My head is spinning. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
Alice should pick Saturday Night And Sunday Morning because it | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
encapsulates almost a moment in British history. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:42 | |
I think Sons And Lovers should be picked because it's | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
just a wonderful story. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
Alice should pick The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole because it | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
essentially was a revolution. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Plenty of advice there but in the end I have | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
to make the decision, so what is it going to be? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Saturday Night And Sunday Morning? | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
Arthur Seaton, I think we've all met one. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Sons And Lovers, perhaps. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
It is still taught in schools today. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
And let's not forget Adrian Mole. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
Reading that again I realised how much I'd missed | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
the first time around. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:08 | |
But I can only pick one. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
It's got to be Saturday Night And Sunday Morning. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
In Arthur Seaton, Alan Sillitoe has created a character that still feels | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
completely relevant even today. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
He is fighting against authority he's pushing against older | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
generations, he doesn't want to give up on that hedonistic | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
lifestyle and in 2016, that is definitely something | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I recognise. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
So this is my favourite but what is yours? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
From me and Books That Made Britain, goodbye. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:47 |