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'Britain's major galleries house some of the finest collections | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
'of art to be found anywhere in the world. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
'But there are thousands of other artworks we know little about, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
'in the collections of smaller institutions, government offices, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
'local museums and country houses. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
'Many of them unrecorded and unknown. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
'But over 80% of this treasure trove remains locked away in storage. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
'Lost in this limbo, even works by the biggest names in art | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
'can fall into obscurity. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
'The Art UK website was created to shine a light into these shadows, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
'and now has over 200,000 paintings online.' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Using this database, we'll be travelling the country, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
seeking out potential lost masterpieces | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
lying unrecognised and unregarded in dusty corridors and storerooms. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
When we find a promising painting we'll attempt to uncover its hidden | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
history and true brilliance through a meticulous process of restoration, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
research and scientific analysis. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
We'll also investigate the stories of how these works made their way | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
into our public collections and what they tell us | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
about where we come from and who we are. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
But finding a painting is just the beginning of the trail. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
# Mae hen wlad fy nhadau | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
# Yn annwyl i mi... # | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
'Swansea was once a powerhouse of the Industrial Revolution, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
'when its smelting works earned it the nickname Copperopolis. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
'At one point in the 19th century, 90% of the world's copper ore | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
'was brought here to be processed. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
'And the remnants of this heritage are visible everywhere in the city.' | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
# Dros rhyddid collasant... # | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
'Today, this former rolling mill in Swansea Harbour | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
'serves as the storeroom of the Swansea Museum. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
'And what a storeroom. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
'The museum began life in 1841 as the Royal Institute of South Wales. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
'It's been accumulating items of local interest ever since. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
'Garethe El Tawab is the current custodian of this fascinating collection | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
'of flotsam and jetsam.' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Wow, this is the most bonkers museum store I think I've ever seen, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-anywhere in the world. -Well, I think we've got a bit of... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Well, definitely something for everyone. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
The collections go back to the 1830s, so we're the oldest museum in Wales. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
They come from private donations and things that have been bought | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
for the collections over the years. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
So, yes, a bit of everything. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
'Bendor is champing at the bit to explore the museum's picture store. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
'But to try and make sense of this colossal cornucopia of clutter, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
'I opt for a guided tour with Garethe.' | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
Tell me a bit more about how all of these weird and wonderful objects | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
came together in one collection. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
That's what's unusual, I think, isn't it? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Well, the sort of early collections were sort of | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
objects from all over the world that were just collected by private | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
individuals and donated to the Royal Institute of South Wales, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
so became part of their collection. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
And then, I suppose, collections policies came in | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
and since it's been in the ownership of the City and County of Swansea. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
But we also collect a lot of social history to do with people's lives today. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
So are you constantly on the lookout for things that might... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-Yes. -..build the collection? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
We get contacted by colleagues in other departments | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
within the Council. "Oh, we're just demolishing this, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
"would you like to come and take these things out before it hits the ground?" | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
It is truly the most eclectic collection I've ever seen. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Yes, and obviously things like this we wouldn't collect today. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
No, I imagine not. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
That came in Victorian times into the collection. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
It's a bit sad now because they were on open display for years, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
people stroked them, and they've gone bald, basically. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
'I'm really staggered by the sheer amount of local ephemera | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
'on the shelves. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
'Aladdin's Cave had nothing on this place.' | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Putting you through... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
Swansea is probably best known today as the place that issues our driving licences. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
But back in its industrial heyday it was a booming town | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
whose wealth came directly out of the ground. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
'Swansea became Copperopolis because of a simple equation. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
'It takes four tonnes of coal to smelt one tonne of copper. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
'So it was more efficient to bring the copper ore to the Swansea coalfields. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
'Initially the ore came from Cornwall, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
'but eventually from all over the world. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
'The practice of covering a ship's hull in copper - copper bottoming - | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
'was developed in Swansea. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
'It increased the vessel's manoeuvrability, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
'which Nelson claimed contributed to his victory at Trafalgar.' | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
The Victorian industrialists who founded the Royal Institute | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
were fired by a civic pride in their rapidly expanding town. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
They were avid collectors of curiosities from across the globe, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
things like these wonderful Roman mosaics | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
and this dervish sword from the deserts of East Africa. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
'But, today, everything means something to someone, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
'and it's a challenge to decide what to keep and what to display.' | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
That wasn't something that greatly troubled the founders of the Royal Institution, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
like Major George Grant Francis here. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
They had a sense of certainty in what people should find in a museum. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
And in 1841 they opened their doors to the public with something | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
which had never taken place in Wales before - | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
an exhibition of fine art. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
'The pictures in the Swansea stores today are, I'm sure, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
'all of some value as historical artefacts. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
'But there are not many you might describe as fine art. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
'There is, however, one I found on the Art UK website that might just | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
'fall into that category. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
'It's not that one. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
'And it's definitely not that one. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
'Ah, this is what we're looking for.' | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
When I saw a photograph of this picture online, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
it was described simply as a picture by an unknown artist. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
But I thought it reminded me of the work of one of the giants | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
of 17th-century Flemish painting, Jacob Jordaens. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
He was a pupil of Rubens and went on to dominate painting in Antwerp | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
in the mid-17th century. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
I have to say, looking at the painting now, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
in the flesh for the first time, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
I think, blimey, what was I thinking? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Because it's difficult not to be distracted by the sheer state of it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
It's on...one, two, three, four, five disjointed planks of wood. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
And there are some truly awful bits of painting. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
I mean, this dog here looks like it's been stuck on in a paper cutout | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
and painted in the most extraordinary sort of pinky-brown. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
There's a horse up here which has been sort of trimmed in pink. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
It looks like something out of My Little Pony. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Hardly the work of a great master, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
but if you spend some time with the picture and look more closely at it | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
then signs of artistic genius, I think, begin to emerge. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
Although this dog is terrible, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
the one next to it is absolutely marvellous. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
These two dogs here are painted very quickly and very confidently. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
They're looking up at their master, I presume, with that sort of | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
sense of loyal patience that you get in a dog. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
I think there are some extraordinary passages of painting in here. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
It feels to me that | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
there is a great painting fighting to come out. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
'We carry the panel into the central space to get a clearer view of it | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
'and I start to feel a little more optimistic, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
'despite its dilapidated condition.' | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-On the chair? -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
'We found an old bus seat to serve as an easel.' | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
So the subject is Atalanta and Meleager, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
but my classical mythology is rubbish, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
do you know what's going on in this? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Well, a little. They've just been involved in a hunt to kill | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
this wild boar that's been ravaging the countryside. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-Hence the hunting dogs, I guess. -Hence the hunting dogs. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
But actually, it's the woman, it's Atalanta who first... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
..gives him a mortal wound. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
And then Meleager comes in and finishes him off. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
A lot of the men get very, very annoyed | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
that a woman was involved in the hunt in the first place, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
and that then she is being presented with the prize of the boar. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
I think what happens next is that Meleager, to sort of defend | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
his lover, Atalanta, starts attacking people. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
He kills four or five people. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
This is Greek sexism in action. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
It certainly is, in a big way. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
I probably have chosen the most damaged picture in here to show you. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-Yes. -Not a picture in great condition, this. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
And I think what's really interesting about it is | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
there's so many... Do you see these really rubbish bits? | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
That sort of horrible pink that's just slapped on there. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Yeah, that doesn't look good. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Look at the background, you see that sort of solid blue slab of paint? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-So, why do you think we're seeing that? -I'm hoping... | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
I reckon and I'm hoping this is all a case of the restorer from hell. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
Someone has come along and thought they're helping this picture, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
but actually they're just covering it with rubbish layers of overpaint. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
Now, I can see why you might have picked this. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
There's a lot of interest here, it's just...it looks a mess. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
I know. The question is, can we fix it? | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
And here is a lovely label. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
"Copy with variations of Meleager and Atalanta by Jacob Jordaens | 0:10:23 | 0:10:30 | |
-"in the Prado, Madrid." -Ah. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Probably early 18th century. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Early 18th century? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Well, I don't think that's right. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
The copyist has followed the Flemish handling of the original | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
very faithfully and is so self-effacing | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
as to be impossible to identify. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Well... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
But you're not convinced by that? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
What's your hunch, then? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
I don't know. You may think I'm bonkers having seen this wreck, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
but I think this is not by an 18th-century copyist. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
I think it's... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
possibly by Jordaens himself. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
My suspicion is that this could be a study, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
so it could be his first working-out for that subject. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
For the picture in the Prado? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
Yeah, yeah. Which makes it tremendously important | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
and tremendously valuable. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
'This picture seems to be a very long way from home, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
'and it would be a terrific help to know when it arrived in the collection. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
'But Swansea Museum has had a chequered history | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
'and the records are incomplete. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
'But on the off chance that there is a mention, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
'I volunteer to do the first shift.' | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
'As investors in what were then hi-tech industries, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
'the businessmen and industrialists who founded the Swansea Museum | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
'were motivated by the latest developments in science | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
'and were granted a Royal Charter for their research. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
'It was the very first museum in Wales, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
'with exhibition rooms, a library and laboratory, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
'all contained in a fashionable neo-Egyptian building.' | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Originally there was a tennis court on the front lawn, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
but it had to be closed because of inebriated spectators. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
'It's interesting that the museum was primarily a scientific institution | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
'but its opening exhibition should have been of paintings. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
'There's a great piece of high-minded Victorianism | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
'from the founding proposal. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
'It would "foster a taste for a better knowledge of the fine arts | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
'"among all classes and administer direct gratification | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
'"to many cultivated minds".' | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Other highlights from the museum's history include a stuffed elephant, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
which died whilst a circus was in town. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
It was gifted to the museum, where, for a while, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
it became one of the most popular exhibits. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
MUSIC: Guide Me O Thou Great Redeemer | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
'"Direct gratification to cultivated minds" | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
'is still part of the purpose of the museum. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
'Although, today, as well as celebrating the great and good | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
'who founded the institution, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
'it also honours the muck and sweat on which the town's industrial success was built.' | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
'Bendor and I are getting a peek behind the scenes of an exhibition | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
'by one of the greatest painters of Welsh Valley life, who I feel | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
'is in danger of being overlooked by art history.' | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
So there's something that I wanted to show you, completely different, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
in a way, from what we've been looking at. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
'This is a sextych - | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
'a picture made up of six panels - by the Polish artist Josef Herman. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
'Due to its size, it's quite rare for it to be on display, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
'so this is a huge treat for me. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
'Knowing Bendor's love of old brown paintings, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
'I wonder if I can tickle his fancy with a modern brown painting?' | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
It's very brown, isn't it? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
It is very brown, but that's interesting. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
One of the things he did was that he underpainted in very, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
very light colours and then built up darker layers on top because he | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
wanted to get his figures, all of these big monolithic figures, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
to look as though the light was sort of emanating from within. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Of course, it's figurative, but it's incredibly abstracted. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
You know, these faces look very totemic and masklike. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I love these huge hands as well, look at that. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Those enormous sausagey fingers of labour. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
These are not pretty hands. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
You're making a very good case for this picture. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I'm nearly sold. SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
But, actually, he was really interested in the old masters. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Flemish artists, Dutch artists, northern Italian artists, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
so actually, the leap from our possible Jordaens | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
is not as far as you might imagine. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
I feel a bit more comfortable now, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
admiring this great masterpiece of post-war Welsh-Polish painting. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-Is that what we call it? -Maybe Polish-Welsh? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Polish-Welsh, OK. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
'Whichever way round you join these two nations, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
'I can't help feeling puzzled by what it was that drew Josef Herman | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
'from Warsaw all the way to the Welsh Valleys. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
'Herman was a Polish Jew who left his homeland in 1938 | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
'to escape rising anti-Semitism, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
'but also to pursue his ambitions as an artist. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
'As his train left Warsaw, his mother leaned against the window | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
'and told him, "Never, never come back." | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
'He wandered through Belgium, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
'visiting art galleries and discovering modern painting. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
'This opened a world of creative possibilities to him. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
'But as a refugee on the run, he was unable to explore his new ideas. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
'When he reached Britain he received the terrible news from the Red Cross | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
'that his family had been murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
'The 11 years he was to spend in Wales became a period of healing, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
'and these panels - | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
'commissioned for the Welsh pavilion at the Festival of Britain - | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
'were his masterpiece.' | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
For me, this is the flipside of the story of the Valleys, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
because the men who built this institution had great ideas, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
but their ideas were only possible to put into practice | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
because of the incredibly hard graft of men like this. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
The men who actually went down the pits and dug the coal, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
on the basis of which the wealth of Swansea was built. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
So, for me, this is a really heroic picture. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
These are heroic men who should be celebrated every bit as much as | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
the patrons and the benefactors. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
'The big question is how a Warsaw art student | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
'finally found recognition painting miners in the Welsh Valleys. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
'But we have an even older mystery to unpick. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
'The dilapidated panel of Meleager and Atalanta doesn't seem to fit | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
'any of the known facts about Jacob Jordaens. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
'But before we can begin to work out who painted it, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
'we need to get a proper look under the grime and overpaint. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
'Bond Street - the heartbeat of London's art market. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
'Swansea Museum have kindly allowed us to bring their panel | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
'to the studio of picture restoration wizard Simon Gillespie, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
'who is helping us unlock the puzzles hidden in all our pictures. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
'With a battery of modern scientific tools, but most importantly | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
'an expert eye and a forensic touch, Simon will help find the evidence | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
'that will tell us what our paintings really are.' | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
This is an enormous amount of overpaint. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
It's rather alarming because if that is really necessary, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
then there's a problem. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
But we should have a look. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
There we go. Look at that. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
The original's colour here | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
is very well worth looking at. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
That little bit in there is the original. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
That is the ghastly, horrible overpaint. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Oh, I see. So under the horse's mouth, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
that very pale blue is the original sky colour and then we've got | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-horrid, lurid blue there... -Which is overpaint. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Which is all over that background. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
-So, in other words... -And also, there's dirt as well. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Lots of dirt. But in other words it looks like all this overpaint | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
could possibly just be cosmetic, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-where someone has tried to make a sketch... -Yeah. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-..look... -More substantial, yeah. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
-..more like a finished picture. -Yeah. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
What is this sort of, like, treacly dribble here? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Treacl... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
It's sort of a thick varnish that's been applied on the top. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-And just left to run down? -Just left to run down, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
it's a ridiculous thing to have done. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
-God. -Well, if the same man who did this overpaint has done that, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
it's a very silly thing. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
He should be had up for crimes against conservation. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Yes, I don't know what we'd do with him, really. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
We'd probably overpaint him. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Murder by overpainting! Death by overpaint. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
'So to recap, it's filthy, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
'there are thick layers of clumsily applied varnish | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
'and there are significant areas of heavy overpainting. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
'Fortunately, Simon enjoys a challenge.' | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Immediately you can see the overpaint fluorescing. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
'This is where the real magic of our detection takes place. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
'Even removing a simple layer of dust can reveal new clues. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
'Gradually, as the dust comes away, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
'it's as if we're able to travel back hundreds of years | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
'and look over the shoulder of the artist as he painted.' | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
This is like wetting a pebble on the beach, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
you suddenly get all the colours and depth inside the stone. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
So, for the first time now... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-Yes, look. -..we can see the body of the dog. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Very nice. Look, these little flashes of colour are hidden away | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
in there. I mean, this is somebody... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
You can see through here, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
look, these wonderful confident brushstrokes. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
And it's in really lovely condition as well. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
That's really exciting to see that. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
I think we should give our overpainting friend a name. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
And in honour of Swansea's other most famous son, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
I'm going to call him Dylan. Dylan Thomas. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Dylan the overpainter. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
Dylan the overpainter. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-Dastardly Dylan. -Dastardly Dylan, yes. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
'The various bottles on Simon's trolley | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
'are bespoke mixtures of alchemical solutions. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
'A watery concoction to remove dust, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
'or a more powerful one to attack the overpaint. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
'It seems there's hardly an area of the picture | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
'that hasn't suffered from Dylan's attentions. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
'The horseman's sword is completely different to the original. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
'Atalanta has been given a new red frock | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
'and even her rosy nipple is a later embellishment. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
'Simon's first efforts have confirmed that under the dust, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'dirt and overpaint, we can see the hand of a very fine painter. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
'But they also throw up some knotty questions - | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
'what exactly are we dealing with here?' | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
According to the note on the back of this picture, Simon, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
it's supposed to be a copy of this painting in the Prado. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
A much bigger oil-on-canvas version of Meleager and Atalanta. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
If the artist was making a copy of this, they would have applied a much | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
thicker paint. This is actually painted rather like a watercolour. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-Yes. -Very thinly applied washes, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
-very confidently blocking out or sketching in... -Yeah. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-..the idea. -It looks as if it's not intended to be seen as a finished | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
-painting. -Absolutely. Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
But there is a problem here, because according to this catalogue entry, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
the Prado picture was made in two stages. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
First one circa 1620-1623 | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
but then it was enlarged with the addition of this other half | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
in about 1640. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
'The experts claim the left-hand half of the painting | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
'was an addition made 20 years later. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
'But - and this is a big but -' | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
'..if the Swansea panel was made before the Prado picture, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
'then it must surely be a sketch by Jordaens himself, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
'and the Prado picture must have been painted in one go. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
'I think it's time to plunge into the world Jordaens was painting in. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
'We need to find out more about his technique | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
'and whether sketches like our panel | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
'were part of his normal working practice. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
'In the early years of the 17th century, Antwerp was experiencing | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
'an economic and cultural boom. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
'Jordaens was born in the city in 1593 | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
'and became a pupil of Peter Paul Rubens. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
'And, for a time, worked alongside Anthony van Dyck. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
'The city became one of the most creative in the world | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
'and could comfortably support these three giants of the Flemish Baroque.' | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
'Rubens' house and workshop, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
'which were an inspiration for Jordaens' similar set-up, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
'have survived pretty much intact.' | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
This is Rubens' studio. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
For me, it's the birthplace of some of the greatest works of art | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
the world has ever seen. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
You might think it's quite a large space for one artist to work in, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
but in the early 17th century it would have been packed full | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
of pupils and assistants working on a whole number of different pictures | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
under the guidance of the master himself. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
And it's very likely that one of those was Jordaens. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
'Today, Rubens' house is a museum, and it contains self-portraits | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
'of both Rubens and Jordaens. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
'They tell us a lot about how each man saw himself.' | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Here's Rubens, international jet-set painter and diplomat. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Friend of royalty. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Looking suave and confident with his whiskers waxed | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
and his hat cocked at a jaunty angle. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
And here's our man, Jordaens. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
The local lad who looks like he's had a few beers | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
and thinks we'd all like to hear just how clever he is on the bagpipes. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Well, that's certainly how the history books | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
have described the two men, but are they right? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Well, it's the inevitable fate of everyone working in Antwerp | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
in the first part of the 17th century. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
I mean, Rubens was a giant, a genius. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Van Dyck came close, but he was, at the end of the day, the lesser genius, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
and then there was Jordaens, you know, the bronze medal, so to speak. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
But I can see Jordaens, certainly the Jordaens...the early Jordaens, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
working between, say, 1615-1645 roughly, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
as really a great, great master. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
'If our panel was a preliminary sketch, or a modello, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
'as the art jargon has it, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
'I wondered if this was common working practice in Antwerp | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
'at the time.' | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
They were used as models - "modelli" in Italian -... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
..to be presented to the patron, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
the person who commissioned the painting, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
but also they could be, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
or can be considered as tryouts in which the artist seeks to find | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
a proper... the most exciting compositions. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
They played a vital part in Flemish studio practice. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
So when someone presents a possible Jordaens picture to you, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
what are you looking for? What do you see that makes you think, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
"Aha! This is by Jordaens"? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
The sketching, the fluidity of the brushwork, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
the colour, all that is... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
all those elements make it into a Jordaens. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
'Jordaens' reputation has never been as high as that of Rubens. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
'He was not from the city's elite | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
'and is felt to have been much more comfortable depicting the rougher | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
'pleasures of life, because he understood them himself. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
'His talent for finely observed detail is evident | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
'in the rough-and-tumble drunken fun of The King Drinks, here. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
'And we see the same skill in the way he captures the behaviour | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
'of the dogs in the Swansea panel. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
'But this was not the limit of his artistic abilities. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
'He was also a careful craftsman | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
'whose pictures show a great amount of thought. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
'And if the Swansea panel is a preparatory sketch, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
'it would confirm how much planning he put into his compositions. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
'Jordaens was certainly a popular success, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
'and kept himself in fine style. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
'This was his home and studio.' | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
When he was 25, he was earning enough to buy this house, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
and with a few additions and extensions | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
it would remain his home for the rest of his life. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
'Unlike his more famous contemporaries, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
'Jordaens never felt any urge to leave Antwerp. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
'And this may have contributed to his reputation | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
'as a less sophisticated painter. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
'While van Dyck was a bit of an Anglophile and ended up in London, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
'and Rubens toured the royal courts of Europe as a diplomat - | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
'some might even say spy - | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
'Jordaens, it seems, was happy in his hometown. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
'But though he was less well travelled, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
'I think his mythological pictures are every bit | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
'as intellectually considered as Rubens'. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
'There's a popular tradition in Flemish painting | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
'of busy genre scenes, showing the everyday lives of people | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
'going about their daily chores. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
'And Jordaens' boozy pictures show he loved this kind of painting. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
'But grander mythological subjects | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
'not only sold like hot cakes to the city's bourgeoisie, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
'they were also an opportunity for a painter to advertise his own learning. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
'Antwerp was a progressive city, the cradle of the Northern Renaissance, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
'and its wealthy merchants wanted to feel part of the intellectual life | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
'of the city. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
'Commissioning art showing scenes from classical myths and legends | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
'was one way to do this. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:46 | |
'Typical of Antwerp's chattering classes was a lawyer | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
'called Nicolaas Rockox, whose home survives as a museum. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
'This was the sort of place where the city's intelligentsia | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
'would have met to discuss the classics, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
'like the Roman poet Ovid, whose Metamorphoses | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
'was the source of the myth of Meleager and Atalanta. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
'Their imaginations would have been fired by the paintings on the walls, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
'showing scenes from the legends. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
'The story of Atalanta and Meleager hunting the boar | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
'was a staple subject of these works. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
'This example by Rubens from 1616 is just one of many.' | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
They were mad for Ovid in early-17th-century Antwerp. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
And this version by Jordaens was painted around 1617, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
a year or so after Rubens' picture and just as Jordaens was starting | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
to find success as an independent artist. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
'Several new translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses were published | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
'at this time. Each one inspiring painters to pick a different moment | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
'in the story to ramp up the action.' | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
The myth tells of a rampaging boar | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
that had been destroying the vineyards of the King. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
His son, Meleager, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
is tasked with rounding up the greatest hunters in the kingdom | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
to catch the boar. Including the fearsome female warrior, Atalanta, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
with whom he's in love. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
And it's she, rather than any of the men, who strikes the first blow. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
To honour her, Meleager presents her with the boar's head as a trophy. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
'Some of the other hunters were jealous | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
'that a woman would be honoured in this way, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
'and try to take the boar's head back. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
'Meleager draws his sword, and in the bloodbath that ensues | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
'our hero and several of his close relatives end up dead. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
'So, what's the moral we're supposed to take away here? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
'Not to act on impulsive anger. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
'But is there something else Jordaens has in mind?' | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
This is the battle between reason and passion. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Between a vigorous youth and his aged forefathers. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
In that sense, it might even be a vision of Jordaens himself. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
Carving a new, independent voice in the face of the older, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
more experienced Rubens. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
'So, what have we found out about Jordaens from our Antwerp visit? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
'And where does our Swansea picture fit into the story?' | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
It seems to me you can make a case for him actually being a really | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
intellectual thinker about how to put classical subjects | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
in paint form. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
He's evolving Rubens' very consciously classical figures | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
into something a little bit more interesting | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
in terms of the story of the subject matter. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
I love the way in Jordaens' version, our Atalanta is not this gorgeous | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
elevated goddess of mythology, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
she's a kind of ruddy-faced Antwerp woman... | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
-Yes. -..who might have been wandering the streets outside his house | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-that very morning. -Yes. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
You get that sense of real life colliding with high art. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
I love that mix of high and low. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
That seems to be really uniquely Jordaens. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Yes, that's very interesting. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
And he was obviously someone who wanted to explore the story | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
of Atalanta and Meleager a great deal more, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
because then a few years later, with this picture in the Prado, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
he completely reinvents the whole scene. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
I'm hoping and I think that our picture from Swansea | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
is the bridge between Jordaens' early efforts | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
of Atalanta and Meleager in the Rockox house, and then... | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
..you come to the finished picture in the Prado. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
The more famous one. I think our picture is actually going to be | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
quite crucial in helping us to sort of | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
cast a new light on Jordaens' early career. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
But the problem we have is that according to all the Jordaens scholars | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
from about the last century, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
they are convinced that that picture in the Prado was painted | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
in two halves, 20 years apart. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
That would undermine our idea that Jordaens was someone | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
who was thinking quite deeply about these classical subjects. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
So it is our mission | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
to rehabilitate Jordaens through this painting in Swansea. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
So I want to go and have a look at it in person, actually, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
and try and get to the bottom of what's going on there. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
So off to Madrid you go. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Off to Madrid. -In the meantime, I've got a slightly different sort of | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
journey and discovery in mind. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
-So I'm heading back to the Valleys of Wales. -Right. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
It's thrilling to think that our panel might be a lost masterpiece, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
but it's important not to forget where we found the picture | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
and what it might mean to Swansea. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
'I'm taking the bus into the Valleys to recreate a journey | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
'that was made by Josef Herman, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
'whose monumental mining painting we saw at the museum. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
'His destination, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
'at the foot of the mountain Craig y Farteg, was the mining village | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
'of Ystradgynlais. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
'When Josef Herman arrived here in 1944 | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
'he was still deeply traumatised by the loss of his family in the Holocaust. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
'He later described feeling a void of inner emptiness. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
'He'd planned to visit for a few days, but he stayed for 11 years.' | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
What was it about a small mining village in the Brecons | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
that had such a profound appeal to a Polish-Jewish refugee? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
'For me, this is something of a personal pilgrimage. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
'I've always loved Herman's work, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
'but until now I've never visited the Welsh Valleys that inspired him. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
'The main street of Ystradgynlais, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
'with its stone cottages regularly interspersed with Nonconformist chapels, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
'isn't noticeably different from many other pit villages, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
'but something happened here that afternoon that made him decide to stay.' | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
As he took in the local scene from this bridge, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
a group of miners suddenly appeared. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
They stopped and chatted | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
and their bodies were silhouetted against the setting sun. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
In that instant - the seminal moment of Herman's creative life - | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
he knew that he'd found a fresh subject, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
and a renewed sense of purpose for his art. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
'Ystradgynlais, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
'set in a fold in the Brecon Beacons and surrounded by coal mines, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
'became his adopted home. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
'And the miners his inspiration. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
'At first he stayed here, at the Penybont Inn, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
'in a large room above the bar known as the ballroom. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
'This was his window. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
'In Josef's diary, he relates how he would wake up to the sound of | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
'the miners' hobnailed boots on the cobbles | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
'as they walked to work in the dark. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
'When he lifted the curtain aside to watch, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
'they would give him a friendly wave.' | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
He quickly developed a fluent style, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
working with charcoal and black ink | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
and creating a palette and texture for his work | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
that perfectly mirrored that thick layer of coal dust | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
that coated his subjects. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
Eventually, after two years of sketching, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
he at last felt confident enough to paint. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
'In order to better understand the lives of these men, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
'Herman began to go down the mines to sketch the backbreaking work | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
'in progress, sharing the discomfort and the risk.' | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
My painting, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
which is something I enjoy more than anything else in life... | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
..is, at heart, serious. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:16 | |
When all is said and done, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
I am more interested in moral than in aesthetic values. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
'His moral values were moulded by a strongly left-wing political outlook, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
'and he certainly found a kindred spirit in the mining communities. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
'But at the same time as he became established as a painter, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
'he began to make contact with galleries in London. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
'After six years of wandering Europe with a bad case of creative block, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
'Wales became a place of healing. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
'At this point, with the help of new friend Dai Williams, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
'he converted a small factory building into a place to live and work. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
'Today, it's home to Dai's niece, Betty.' | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
He referred often to the ease of the acceptance, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:10 | |
how easily and quickly he was accepted by the people. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Within a few days, they had affectionately called him Joe Bach. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
He was known as Joe Bach forever. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
What does "bach" mean in Welsh? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
"Bach" is really small. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
But it is an affectionate term. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
You know, when we say "bach", we mean it in a friendly way. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
Yes. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
I think that he saw some similarities with his... | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
..with his homeland as well. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
With working-class... | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
..the devout chapel-goers | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
with his devout grandparents to the synagogue, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
the two languages of Yiddish and Polish and English and Welsh. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
He loved, when he stayed at the Penybont, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
just to come down to the bar and to discuss politics and economics | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
with the miners in the bar at the Penybont. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
'Josef Herman is still remembered fondly in the bar of the Penybont Inn.' | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
That's a fantastic photograph, isn't it? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Let's have a look. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
'Former miner Viv has a photograph of the villagers as they prepared | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
'for the 1951 Festival of Britain.' | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
-Joe Bach is there. -There he is, at the edge. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
Why do you think he was so interested in the miners? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Well, put it this way, it wasn't easy work, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
and he had a lot of respect for the miners, you know. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
He went through a lot himself to get here, you know. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
I think he appreciated... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
..what we were doing for Britain, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
relatively speaking. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
It sounds like his politics were very similar to a lot of people here | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
-as well. -Oh, yes. The working class. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
-And very radical and left-wing. -He was very close to the working class, you know. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
He went up to London and... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
..hobnobbing about with the bigwigs, like, you know! | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
But, still, I think his heart remained with the working class. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
'The mining industry that was such an inspiration to Herman has gone. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
'There were six pits surrounding the village, all of which have closed. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
'But some of the machinery from Cefn Coed Colliery | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
'is preserved as a museum. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
'Impressive as it is, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
'it wasn't the mechanisation that inspired Josef Herman. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
'His art is solely focused on the human toil | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
'in this most challenging environment.' | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
He was a refugee, an orphan from the storms of the 20th century, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
but he did find peace here in the end, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
as well as acceptance by the Welsh people. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
So much so that his huge miners mural represented Wales | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
at the Festival of Britain in 1951. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
'It was this painting that cemented his reputation in Britain. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
'His work now hangs in many collections, including the Tate, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
'and he received an OBE in 1981 for services to British art. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
'Yet he never forgot his ties to the people of the Valleys. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
'For Herman, the mountain Craig y Farteg loomed large, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
'a physical manifestation of the work of the miners | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
'and the life of the community. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
'He, perhaps, put it best himself. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
'"I don't have to explain myself to these people, they already know." | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
'Today is a big day for our Jordaens investigation. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
'I'm going to see the full-sized painting | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
'for which we think our panel is a study. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
'It has had an interesting life since it left his studio. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
'For a while, it hung over the bed of the Queen of Spain, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
'in the Royal Palace of La Granja de San Ildefonso. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
'But these days, it's in the collection of the Prado Museum | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
'in Madrid. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
'There's no doubt that the picture has been painted on two strips | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
'of canvas joined together. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
'You can see the seam quite clearly. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
'It's when they were painted that's the key question in our investigation.' | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
So the theory is that Jordaens painted this picture in two halves. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
He painted the half on the right in about 1620 | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
and then 20 years later he painted these figures here. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
But I just don't buy it. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
'Accepted wisdom says that these characters on the left | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
'are painted in a later style, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
'softer and more muted than Meleager and Atalanta. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
'But I think this is entirely intentional | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
'and is done to accentuate the drama of the picture.' | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
Here, Jordaens has turned himself into a stage director, | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
and in order to make sure your eye - the viewer's eye - | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
goes straight to the important bit of the story, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
he's lit them more strongly and there's less light on these people. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
So your eye goes to the heart of the action. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
And you're drawn | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
to not only the gaze between Atalanta and Meleager, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
but also her hand here, which is the key part of the story. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
Where she's trying to stop him from drawing his sword | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
and causing further bloodshed and violence. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
If I'm right, if this picture was painted all at once, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
then suddenly that allows the possibility | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
that the painting in Swansea is not a copy, but a preparatory study. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
Because it doesn't make much sense for a copyist to see a picture | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
by Jordaens and then decide, "I'm going to add in some extra figures." | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
But if you accept the painting in Swansea as a study for this picture, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
then it all begins to fall into place and you can see why | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
some of the figures might have been taken out in order to fit | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
the subject onto the composition we have here. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
And it's interesting to notice some of the differences. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
The most important one, I think, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:37 | |
is we no longer have that mad-looking horseman | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
in the centre of the canvas | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
who was about to chop off Meleager's head. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
He's gone. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
And then my favourites change, actually, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
is up here at the boar's head. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
In the painting in Swansea, the boar is very dead, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
and his eye is closed. But here, it's open, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
and it's almost as if he's been brought back to life a bit. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
'He's staring down on the action with a knowing look, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
'as if to say, "You may have killed me, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
'"but the game's up for you lot in a minute." | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
'Having got up close and personal with this picture, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
'I now feel more certain than ever that Jordaens painted it in one go. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
'I can't see anything here to support the idea that he added | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
'the left-hand section at a later date. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
'But, if that is the case, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
'then how do we explain the join down the middle of the canvas? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
'I think I may have found something to help us out on that point.' | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
I've been doing a bit of digging here about the artist's materials | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
that would have been available in Antwerp | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
at the beginning of the 17th century. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
And it looks like one of the standard widths for canvas | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
was 120 centimetres. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
'This is from the inventory of a shop in Rotterdam | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
'that dealt with suppliers in Antwerp in the 17th century. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
'You can see the width they were supplying was 7/4 ells wide, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
'and in today's money that's 120 centimetres. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
'The Prado picture is double that - 240 centimetres wide.' | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
So what that means is that Jordaens, in order to make a bigger picture, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
would have had to stitch together two standard widths of canvas. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
'Could that account for the seam running down the centre of the Prado painting? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
'This new information is very convincing. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
'But can we actually prove it? | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
'If Jordaens did make paintings from two sections of canvas | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
'simply because that was what a dealer sold, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
'then we should see the same phenomena on other large paintings | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
'from the same period. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
'The Brussels Museum of Fine Art | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
'has a Jordaens painting of an identical width | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
'to the Prado picture, and made shortly afterwards. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
'Most significantly, it too is made of two strips of canvas.' | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
You can very clearly see the seam down the middle of this picture | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
where the two bits of canvas were joined together. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
But no-one has ever suggested that this composition was made | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
in two halves at two different times. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
It simply wouldn't make any sense if it had been, because the line goes | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
straight through the middle of the lady's head up here, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
and it would also chop this lady's fingers off. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
She would have a mutilated hand. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
So, clearly, this painting was conceived all at once. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
And the reason that this picture is so crucial to our case is because | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
we have a preparatory drawing that relates to it | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
and it shows exactly what Jordaens was thinking | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
when he was making pictures like this. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
This drawing shows us Jordaens' first idea for the painting | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
behind me. You can see that there were originally more figures | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
in the picture, and also it was wider - there was more space. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
And Jordaens, in the finished picture, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
has taken away this space here, the figures are closer together. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
And he's deleted this character and this character, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
which you don't see in the middle of the painting. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
It feels like he's sort of | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
tightened the focus on the composition a little bit more. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
And I think you can see exactly the same creative process | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
in the relationship between our study from Swansea | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
and the finished picture in the Prado. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
The focus has been tightened again | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
and the composition has been narrowed and squeezed in a bit. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
Suddenly we can see how all of Jordaens' Atalanta and Meleager | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
pictures fit together. I think they were all painted | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
in a fairly condensed period from about 1616 to 1620. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
'In each iteration of the myth, he subtly plays with the action. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
'Refining his ideas to present the most intense, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
'emotional moment in the story.' | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
So, Jordaens wasn't the slapdash painter of classical scenes | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
that he's been made out to be. He really thought things through. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
He was meticulous. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:05 | |
'Back in Bond Street, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:10 | |
'restoration proceeds apace on our Swansea painting. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
'Simon and his team are coaxing the warped cedar planks of the panel | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
'back into one harmonious whole, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
'using a series of techniques that are centuries old. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
'It involves some delicate clamping | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
'and the use of an old glue recipe made from rabbit hide. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
'Having not seen any of the restoration work until now, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
'I would have to say the results look pretty spectacular | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
'and a world away from the grubby set of planks | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
'you could shine a torch through back in the Swansea warehouse.' | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
I'm very pleased about the panel and the way it's come together. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
It's got this natural bow to it, which is what happens with wood | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
when it dries. It dries a lot on the back and it doesn't dry so much | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
on the front where the paint is, because the paint is holding it firm. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
And so it shrinks on the back and therefore you get this curve. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
'Even the back of the panel is looking good. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
'And it's here that Simon's made a fresh discovery.' | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
So this shows it up very clearly. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
So, now, what's that? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
This is undoubtedly a panel maker's mark. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
So that's a specific maker. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
Wow. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
'But that's not all. There are some more barely legible impressions | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
'on the back of the panel.' | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
I've got to be honest, it looks like a slight blob, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
-a slight blemish in the wood, to me. -Somebody's dropped the panel! | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
It's not a particularly good example, but this is very exciting to see. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
So all of this together, actually, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
very specifically helps place this panel in time and space. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
-Yes, it is extraordinary. -That's a huge piece of evidence. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
A massive amount. It's really good news to see that. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
'Simon makes a tracing of these marks for further investigation. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
'I'm hoping a trip to the Witt Library at the Courtauld Institute | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
'in London, armed with Simon's tracing, will prove conclusively | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
'that our panel is not a later copy. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
'This is a compelling piece of evidence for the painting. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
'Panel makers' marks are exactly like hallmarks on a piece of gold, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
'recording when, where and by whom the panel was made.' | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
This is one of those fantastic art history books where someone | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
has done all the hard work and people like me can just come along | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
and pluck their conclusions. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
An art historian called Professor Juergen Wadham has spent decades | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
cataloguing all of these panel marks that one finds on the back | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
of panel paintings. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
And he's worked out what they mean, and particularly, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
what dates they relate to. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
There are two key marks on the back of our picture. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
The first is the brand of the City of Antwerp, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
which panel makers were compelled, by law, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
to apply to the back of their panels. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
And on the back of our picture we have what's catalogued here as brand | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
number one, which was only in use between 1617 and 1626. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
And the second was the year stamp. In our case, the letter A. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
And according to this research, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
the conjunction between that City of Antwerp brand and the letter A | 0:52:20 | 0:52:25 | |
means the panel almost certainly was made between 1619 and 1622. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:31 | |
In other words, that is exactly the right date for when we think | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
Jordaens painted our picture. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
'The dating from the panel marks is conclusive proof | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
'that the painting is not a later copy, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
'but it also puts to the sword the notion that the Prado picture | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
'was made in two stages, 20 years apart. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
'Our panel has been on quite a journey since it left Swansea. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
'After Simon's initial surface clean, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
'it has been scanned with ultraviolet light to reveal | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
'the overpaint, which was then painstakingly removed. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
'We have said goodbye to the disastrous dog...' | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
'..the slapdash sky... | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
'..and the embarrassing embellishments to My Little Pony.' | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
-Dylan the overpainter. -Dylan the overpainter. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
He couldn't have painted over a cafe wall! | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
'The planks were rejoined and the damaged areas have been retouched. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
'It's now looking transformed and is ready to take its bow. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
'We've invited our Jordaens expert - | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
'Ben van Beneden from Antwerp - to give it the once-over.' | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
We're very pleased with how it's come up, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
but we're in that stage where we've all spent so much time | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
with the painting, we're biased. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
To have a fresh perspective's very useful. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
I understand why. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
Um... | 0:54:09 | 0:54:10 | |
It's a great find. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
It astonishes me. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
I didn't quite expect this. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
In all fairness. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that we are looking at | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
a quintessential painting by... | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
well, a modello, by Jacob Jordaens. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Splendid. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
That's very, very good news. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
-Very exciting. -And, Ben, if we're right about the dating of this, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
then it seems to me that that slightly means we have to look again | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
at his working practice as it's been told to us in recent art history, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
the idea that he went around with the painting in the Prado | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
just adding bits on. He didn't. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
He was thinking deeply about the subject. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Well, yes, that is a consequence of what we see here. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
We will have to... | 0:55:06 | 0:55:07 | |
..reconsider... | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
um... | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
..and you will have to go and talk to... | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
..colleagues in the Prado Museum... | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
..and all the people working on Jordaens, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
because this tells us... | 0:55:23 | 0:55:24 | |
This gives us information that we didn't have before. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
Quite important information. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
How common are these large-scale... | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
..modellos in Jordaens'...? | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
I would say this is pretty rare a picture. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:43 | |
Not a lot of examples spring to mind. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
It is also a very detailed thing in many respects, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
although it is a sketch. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
It is almost like, you know, a full-bodied composition. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
I know it's always very subjective to try and see elements | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
of a character in the artist, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
someone who's been dead for hundreds of years, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
but I do think Jordaens had a great sense of humour. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
And I love the fact that this little dog is staring out at us, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
like he's completely lost in the composition. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
I sort of think Jordaens puts these humorous touches in | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
every now and then, doesn't he? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
It's a humorous touch, and at the same time it shows his understanding | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
of those elements. He must have had dogs... | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
..of his own. I mean, that is actually what would happen. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
-Yes. -And then you also have the odd dog... | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
..who is just not interested. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
He just doesn't care about the excitement. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
That adds to the picture. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
You look at it, you understand the story, you see what's going on, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
but then there are almost... I wouldn't call it layers, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
but there's much more to see... | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
..when you start looking closely. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
We've got another museum label to change, then! | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
-Yeah. -The story continues. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
The story continues. Again, it's a wonderful find | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
and I am absolutely sure that many, many people... | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
..will be... | 0:57:14 | 0:57:15 | |
-..over the moon with it. -Good. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
Well, hopefully, none more so than the people in Swansea. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
'Swansea Museum has been ticking over just fine | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
'while the panel by an unknown artist has been absent | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
'from the storeroom picture racks. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
'But I'm pretty sure Garethe, the curator, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
'will remember the day it came home for quite a while.' | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
We've had the picture cleaned and restored, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
and I think it now looks pretty...pretty exciting. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
So I hope you like it. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
Here it is. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:53 | |
THEY GASP | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
'When we uncovered the restored painting, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
'there was a satisfying intake of breath around the room. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
'And another one when Bendor revealed some recent prices | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
'for Jordaens' work.' | 0:58:07 | 0:58:08 | |
The market particularly values sketches by Jordaens. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
In fact, the record for a Jordaens price is a sketch about this size, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:17 | |
from about this period, which was sold just earlier this year | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
in New York for 5 million. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
'And now the cat is out of the bag, | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
'it's time to get on the phone to the Prado.' | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 |