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When Porridge first hit our screens in the mid-'70s, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
it pulled in audiences of 20 million and was hailed as a British sitcom classic. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:31 | |
Our map of Comedy Connections takes us on a 40-year journey to see how writers, director and actors | 0:00:31 | 0:00:38 | |
created a series where the "sit" and "com" were in perfect harmony. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:44 | |
People say Porridge was the best thing I did. I think they're right. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
The reason it has endured well is it doesn't date. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven - EIGHT. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
Huh! Would you Adam and Eve it? "Go to jail"! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
At the time, none of us thought this would be going 25 years later! | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
It was just impossible to believe. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
-All right, Fletcher. Just don't let me catch you thieving! -I won't. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
-You won't what? -I won't let you catch me, Mr Mackay! | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
The recipe of Porridge's success is easy to see with hindsight. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
Two of TV's best writers gave great material to a talented director, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
who brought the best out of a gifted cast. How could it fail? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Especially when, at the heart of Porridge, in the part of Norman Stanley Fletcher, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:47 | |
was a comic giant - Ronnie Barker. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
To achieve that success, it needed Ronnie Barker, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
and the reason why is because you needed | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
an actor of consummate skill in acting | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
and a total knowledge of comedy. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-That's from me. Bit mundane after cigars - but -I -knitted them! | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Did you? Aren't they nice! Lovely! | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
I'll wear the other one when I get the bandage off, cos... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
-They're mittens! -Eh? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Oh, yeah - look at that! Oh, yeah! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
So how did it all begin? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
In the early '60s, the BBC gave two friends - | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
trainee TV director Dick Clement and insurance salesman Ian La Frenais - | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
the opportunity to write a comedy series called The Likely Lads. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
Two teas, love. One with, one without. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
Sugar's on the table. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Steady! Some's gone into the cups(!) | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Audiences appreciated The Likely Lads' grip on real life | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
and its lack of sitcom sofas. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
But sofas became part of the furniture in the follow-up success, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads? | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
It was an interesting time in TV - | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
people willing to try new things. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
So we were lucky to be in the right place at the right time. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Meanwhile, Ronnie Barker had been playing second fiddle to Jimmy Edwards in More Faces Of Jim. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:37 | |
Then he emerged from the shadow, appearing in The Frost Report | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
with Ronnie Corbett and a pre-Monty Python John Cleese. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
You stand before this court charged with arson, manslaughter, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
robbery with violence, rape, treason | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and three separate cases of murder. What have you to say for yourself? | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
I'm terribly sorry! | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
The success of The Frost Report marked Barker as a talent to watch and he was given his own show. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:09 | |
Hark At Barker saw the start of a long association with David Jason. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
But it was the collaboration with Ronnie Corbett | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
that launched the BBC on a hunt for a suitable starring vehicle. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
Seven Of One was designed to be pilots for possible series. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
It WAS to be Six Of One, so I could then do Half A Dozen Of The Other. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
But some wise executive added another script which put paid to that as a title. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:38 | |
I commissioned some writers I'd been working with. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Two from - cos there were seven programmes - so I got two from... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, cos I'd done Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads? with them. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:54 | |
The first of the two pilots by Clement and La Frenais introduced the public to Fletcher | 0:04:54 | 0:05:00 | |
and to prison officers Mackay and Barrowclough. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
I suggested one episode could be a prison episode | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
but mine was much more jokey - a sort of Bilko in prison. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
I talked to Dick and Ian and they wanted to do something deeper. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-A Happy New Year to you, Fletcher. > -Oh, yes - very witty, very droll(!) | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
Prisoner And Escort had a guy | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
who wanted to escape, so we knew that the character, mixed with Ronnie's kind of attitude, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:35 | |
was someone up to something, So that was the core comic thing. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
-Don't come it with me! -I wouldn't, Mr Mackay, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
or you'd wait till Hemel Hempstead and chuck me out the window. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
-He wouldn't do that! -I suppose not. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
He couldn't spell Hemel Hempstead - he'd wait till we got to Rugby. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
CLEMENT: It's fair to say that the fact that it had great performances | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
by Brian Wilde and Fulton Mackay | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
gave you a head start. One had already established the bones of a different relationship | 0:06:06 | 0:06:14 | |
between Fletcher and each of those two prison officers. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
He'd bring back the birch, him. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-What's he on about? -Mr Mackay runs group activities. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Oh, yeah? Like rock-breaking and compulsory potholing. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
This is where another essential ingredient was added - the director Sydney Lotterby, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
whose record included Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em and The Liver Birds. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
His skill at getting performances from artistes | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
is demonstrated by Frankie Howerd in Up Pompeii. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-There, there, there, there! -Oh! | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-Oh, there, there, there, there! -Oh! | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-Ever so there, there, there! One for the road. -Oh! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Oh, there, there, there, there! | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
LOTTERBY: The thing about comedy - about ALL television - | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
is that the actor and the director - we are both, in fact, interpreters. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
The person who's got all the business, of course, is the writer. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
The creative team of writers, director and star that would make Porridge was now in place. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
They also did a second Seven Of One pilot - I'll Fly You For A Quid - | 0:07:19 | 0:07:25 | |
about a Welsh family of gamblers. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
That's all going at 13-2, plus his original stake, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
that's 1, carry...5...that's 7, that's... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
My God! £848.42! | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
Approximately. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Less tax. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
No - I've allowed for that! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
It was make-your-mind-up time, as they said in the '70s. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
How different the history of TV comedy might have been if the BBC had followed Barker's instincts. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
It wasn't my favourite episode. The Welsh one, I thought would make the best series but I was talked round. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:06 | |
The BBC agreed to a series based on Prisoner And Escort | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
but it would be 18 months before it started recording, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
and Clement and La Frenais tested the waters at ITV with a series called Thick As Thieves. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
It starred Bob Hoskins as an ex-con who returns home | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
to find best mate John Thaw has moved in with his wife. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Cut yourself shaving? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Every time you raised your voice! | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
-There's TCP in there. -No, we keep it in the bathroom. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Oh, DO we?! | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-ITV were... -It didn't quite work. -There's something about ITV, they didn't do that stuff as... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
The BBC always did the half-hour comedies better than ITV, but this SHOULD have worked. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:54 | |
We liked it. We were high on Thick As Thieves then. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Confronted by the reality of six Porridge half-hours, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
getting laughs from incarceration looked like being hard labour, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
though the setting had one big advantage. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
The best situation comedy has always been in a confined environment, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
and there's nothing more confined than prison, so all those were valid reasons, but we had to overcome... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:24 | |
the real horror of it, because prison is a deeply depressing place. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
The breakthrough came when they met former jailbird Jonathan Marshall | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
who'd written a book about his time inside. This gave Clement and La Frenais the key to their character | 0:09:36 | 0:09:43 | |
and how he could handle the daily, grinding tedium. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Fletcher would survive on little victories. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
I get a bit depressed at times... | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
We both remember that key phrase, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
that it was the kind of minutiae of everyday existence, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
the way that people like Fletcher, who are survivalists, look for an edge, or victory over "the man". | 0:10:02 | 0:10:09 | |
You see yourself as working-class, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-do you? -Yeah. At least, I used to until I went up to Glasgow once - now I see myself as MIDDLE-class. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:19 | |
Those victories were won against the man who embodied the system. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
Bringing the character of Prison Officer Mackay to life was his namesake, actor Fulton Mackay. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:34 | |
Mr Mackay's battles with Fletcher gave the series most of its conflict and plenty of big laughs. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:41 | |
Do everything by numbers? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
I refuse to rise to your bait, Fletcher. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
And it is naive of you to assume that I would. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
Even with your old lady - numbers? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
-IN SCOTTISH ACCENT: -I'm about to make passionate love to you. Stand by your bed! | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
Wait for it, wait for it! Two, three - knickers down! | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Before entering Slade Prison, Fulton Mackay had played a host of straighter roles, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
including one where the Doctor arrived a little too late. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Fulton Mackay was in the running to play Doctor Who | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
when Jon Pertwee hung up his hat. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
But the prison gates opened as the TARDIS door shut. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
On his release from Slade, Mackay was to play Local Hero's beach bum | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
and appear with the Muppets as the lighthouse-keeper in Fraggle Rock. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
Fulton's whole body language, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
everything he did, the way he moved | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and his little twitches - you can't WRITE that. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
That's when an actor takes over a role and says, "This is now mine. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
"This is my suit of clothes and I'm wearing it." Fantastic! | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-Never turn your back on them! -I've always thought the way to encourage trust was to SHOW trust. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:18 | |
Mackay's cohort, Barrowclough, was a whole boxful of soft centres | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
and a gift for Brian Wilde who had worked with Barker in the 1964 film The Bargee. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
Then he played Foggy in Last Of The Summer Wine. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
I'm all right. It's just that I get these murderous tempers! | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
No, on the whole, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
you really shouldn't say anything to me that you couldn't safely say to John Wayne. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
Meanwhile, back in the clink, cast members were still being recruited. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
An important piece of the jigsaw - finding Fletcher's cellmate. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
We wanted to create a character who had never been to prison before. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
That way, the audience could learn about...the routine things | 0:13:04 | 0:13:10 | |
that prison life involves. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
So cast as Fletcher's cellmate - | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
step forward Lennie Godber, played by Richard Beckinsale. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
You WAS expecting me? They informed you? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-They informed me. -Only temporary. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-You're too right, only temporary! Single cell, this is - it's mine. -It's not MY fault. -I'm just saying. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:33 | |
Richard Beckinsale first starred on TV as Geoffrey Scrimshaw, the boyfriend of Paula Wilcox, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
in two series of The Lovers. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
He then played student Alan Moore in the bedsit sitcom Rising Damp and took on Leonard Rossiter. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
-Shake hands. -Get him out of here! -Why? -It's morbid. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
I have to study anatomy, or how can I set bones? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
-If they make you a doctor, I'll write to the Medical Council! -It's someone to talk to, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
and it's musical. # Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones... # | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
That's not funny! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
Godber started prison life working in the kitchens but rose rapidly to be Fletcher's sidekick | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
and perfect bottom-bunk occupant. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
How different it might have been if the BBC followed Barker's instinct. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
I didn't know his work. Indeed, I'd suggested a guy called Paul Henry | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
as Godber to the director. He's a chap I'd worked with a year before. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
But the director said no. He thought that Richard had such warmth and charm and...innocence. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
Keep your nose clean, do your porridge. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-I'm only here due to tragic circumstances. -What? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I got caught. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
He and Ronnie hit it off immediately | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
and there was a father-son thing which worked extremely well. And Lennie was enormously sympathetic. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
-You stop that! -What! -That! Drawing attention to other people's peculiarities. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:11 | |
I was saying to Jackie, too many youngsters poke fun at people cos they got short legs or long legs. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
Who's Jackie? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Jackie - him in the hobby shop. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Little fat poof with the ears like jug handles. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
-LA FRENAIS: -Fletcher became the reluctant mentor of this guy | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
who he didn't want in his cell but was put in his cell | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
and who also didn't know anything. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
So the audience got a sense of the rules, what you do or don't do. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
It's the one place where you can get freedom. Dreams is your escape. No locked doors, no barriers. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:47 | |
Dreams is freedom. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-Freedom? -Yeah. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
No locked doors, is there? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Hey, yeah. ..Hey, yeah - you're right, Fletch! | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
The Porridge team now had to find a cast of supporting characters to ensure this prison worked. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
Out came the form book and the names selected were... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Sam Kelly as Bunny Warren... | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
I'd read books if I could read. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
'Never knew what his real first name was.' | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And he was in for burglary | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
because he couldn't read the sign that said "Burglar Alarm"! | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Christopher Biggins as Lukewarm... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Reading a book? -Oh, don't YOU start! | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Go on knitting your balaclava - there might be another war. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
BIGGINS: Lukewarm was the iron hoof, in the Cockney slang - the poof. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
This character - an extension of myself - was always knitting. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
Tony Osoba as Mad Dog McLaren... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Never knew my father, ma that didn't want me, orphanage, and I'm black with a Scots accent. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
What d'you want - happy-go-lucky(?) | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
-It could be worse, son. -Could it? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
No, I don't suppose it could, really. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
OSABA: The scripts were just easy - | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
easy to learn, easy to do. You felt, "This just works beautifully." | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
And playing Fletcher's daughter, Ingrid, with a voice that could strip paint, Patricia Brake... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:25 | |
..Are you wearing a bra? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-I don't need to. -What d'you mean? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Haven't for ages. My breasts are firm and pliant. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
Please, Ingrid! | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
This isn't St Tropez - it's Slade bleedin' Prison! | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
There's 600 men in here who'd go berserk at the sight of a shin, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
never mind unfettered knockers! | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
I knew it was special in rehearsal. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
If something makes YOU laugh that you're in, you know it's good. | 0:17:52 | 0:18:00 | |
Paul Henry might've missed the boat as Godber, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
but national acclaim came his way as Benny in Crossroads. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
A casting idea of Barker's that did pay dividends | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
was a young actor who played characters much older than he was. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
As the geriatric lifer Blanco Webb, shuffle forward David Jason. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:23 | |
We all know you didn't kill your old lady, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
so some other bloke did and you've paid the penance for it, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
but I don't want you going out harbouring any thoughts of revenge. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
No. I know him what did it. It were the wife's lover. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-But I shan't look for him. He died years ago. -That's all right, then. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
That I do know. I killed him. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
I had no idea who David was. Ronnie said, "I know who can do this part." | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
So I looked at David Jason and thought, "He's so young! | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
"He can't do this." He said, "HE can do it." | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
David Jason had a glorious comedy future ahead of him. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
He had form and most of it was linked to Ronnie Barker. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
As well as appearing in Porridge, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
he appeared with Ronnie in Hark At Barker as a 100-year-old gardener | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
and as a hitman in The Odd Job, hired by a suicidal Barker to bump him off. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:26 | |
Leave it to me. When you're least expecting it... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-Y-Yes, that sounds reasonable. -Think nowt of it. -Thanks. -Right. -Well, I suppose... | 0:19:33 | 0:19:40 | |
The relationship continued when Jason appeared again with Barker | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
as Granville in Open All Hours. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Porridge, meanwhile, went from strength to strength. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Its smooth running meant everyone got time off for good behaviour. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
It was an incredibly smooth process. It doesn't happen that way. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
-It was too easy. -Nothing went wrong. -We'd record the programmes... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
-What time? -Eight o'clock. -We'd be in the bar by 9.15. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
Mr Mackay is a strict Glasgow Presbyterian, you know. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
Sex is only allowed up there when Rangers beat Celtic! | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
'I found Fletcher a very appealing character to play. He was crooked,' | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
always looking for a swindle and trying to trick the authorities, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
but he respected fairness, I think. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
A cheeky character - he made me laugh. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
7.30 - slop-out, supper, 7.45 - lights out. Any questions? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
-Any point? -None whatsoever. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Clement and La Frenais' writing was always very, very funny. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
Very little alteration required. I would add the odd gag, | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
but it was practically the finished article on the first read-through. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Their scripts are always so good there's not much to do, which is great for a director. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:12 | |
And if you've got good actors, all you do is let them get on with it, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
make sure you don't get in the way. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
And as you'd expect from a prison comedy, Clement and La Frenais liked to give themselves a stretch. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
The episode, A Night In, was set entirely in one cell. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
Dear God, thank you for getting me through another day. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
Thank you for the letter from Denise and the liquorice allsorts. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Please look after Denise, and the same applies to me mam, dad - | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
-wherever he is - Auntie Vi, Uncle Donald, Uncle Les and Auntie... -Here! | 0:21:47 | 0:21:53 | |
Is this a prayer or a dedication on the Jimmy Young Show?! | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
It was a great challenge to have just two people talking in a cell. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
It was lit very dark - it was at night. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
It was just very atmospheric and very good | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
and it was the first BAFTA it won, so that's a reason why it was my favourite too! | 0:22:10 | 0:22:16 | |
Despite its huge audiences, Porridge came to an abrupt stop after a mere 21 episodes, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:23 | |
bringing to an end if not Her Majesty's, then everybody else's pleasure. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:29 | |
We only did three series. That was my fault. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
I didn't want to get stuck with being identified as Fletcher. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
I've seen actors stay too long in one character. Harry H Corbett as Steptoe - it happened to him. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:45 | |
After Porridge, Barker returned to another of the Seven Of One pilots, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
corner shop sitcom Open All Hours. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
He teamed up once again with Sydney Lott and his protege David Jason. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
David Jason was, as always, a delight to work with. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
His timing and sense of comedy are superb, and a riot off camera. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
I've never laughed so much as I did with David. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Who's it for? -11. -You wrote 111. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
I've started st-stuttering in writing now! | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Even though Ronnie Barker wanted to move on, that didn't cut much ice with the BBC, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:25 | |
and in their efforts to revive Fletcher, they resorted to drink. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
The BBC invited us to a thank-you lunch which went on till 5 o'clock, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
and after the seventh or second - I lost count - large brandy, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
we walked out having agreed to do a sequel called Going Straight. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
# I'm going straight, I am | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
# Straight as an arrow... # | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
I'd agreed to do one series of Going Straight, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
but it didn't seem to please the public. They missed the threat and discipline of prison. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:05 | |
When I decided to work, I worked out all my qualifications. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
Know what they boiled down to? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
One driving licence. 45 years on this earth, that's all I got! One driving licence. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
Even that's got two endorsements. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Fletcher was always a winner inside. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
When he went outside, for Going Straight, he was a bit of a loser. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:32 | |
-They're all right. -They don't go in this room. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
They will do when they're personalised. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
All you need's a family photo. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
That's all you need. Just a little ornament, like that. Perhaps a... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
Going Straight marked the first sitcom role for Nicholas Lyndhurst | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
as Fletcher's gormless son Raymond. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
The series had an impeccable pedigree. All the collaborators from Porridge were involved again, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:05 | |
but despite a plot which saw Godber marrying Fletcher's daughter, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
it showed the public thought Fletcher belonged behind bars. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
I think the reason it didn't work was the public wanted more Porridge and it wasn't the same. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:21 | |
But there was more. In 1979, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Porridge followed in the footsteps of many '70s sitcoms, making the transition to the big screen, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:30 | |
although it never measured up to the original. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
For the American market, they had to reintroduce characters that were already well-known in this country. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:41 | |
So, in a way, for me, 20 minutes of the film was...wasted, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
because they had to reintroduce Mr Mackay and Mr Barrowclough, which was a shame, really. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
Luckily, there was more to life after Porridge than repeat fees, though they're still coming in. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
Sam Kelly made a good impression, appearing in The Two Ronnies, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
and starred as Hans Geering in 'Allo 'Allo. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
CUCKOO! CUCKOO! | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
Tony Osoba kept Charlotte Coleman in line in Educating Marmalade. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:20 | |
Patricia Brake recreated June Whitfield's part of Eth in the TV version of The Glums | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
before become really glum, after appearing in the doomed Eldorado. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
Christopher Biggins became successful in panto, playing... | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
Christopher Biggins. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
What about the stars of Porridge? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Richard Beckinsale never fulfilled his glorious early promise. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
In 1979, he died during the filming of the sitcom Bloomers, at the age of 31. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:53 | |
His daughters Kate and Samantha carry on the Beckinsale acting tradition. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
# For he's a jolly good fellow For he's a jolly good fellow... # | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
Fulton Mackay continued to deliver meticulous performances up to his death in 1987. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:12 | |
But it's for his creation of Mackay, the scourge of Slade, that he's most fondly remembered. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:19 | |
# For he's a jolly good fellow For he's a jolly good fellow... # | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
Sydney Lotterby retired from TV in January 2003, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
after an association with the BBC that lasted over 60 years. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
He rounded off his career directing As Time Goes By, which ran for 10 years. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:42 | |
Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais moved to Hollywood after Porridge - | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
something that suits them. Auf Wiedersehen, Pet and The Commitments were written in LA. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
But for them, Porridge remains an enduring highlight. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
Now and again, everything goes, "Click, click, click." I don't think it's happened since! | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
It was just extraordinary. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
And what of Ronnie Barker? Playing Fletcher made him king of comedy, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:14 | |
a title he held on to until his last series Clarence in 1988, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
when he decided to retire. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
In the last couple of years, I've appeared in films, just for fun. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
But I'm still definitely retired again now. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
You see a difference in Fletcher. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Sending him home has made him realise what he's been missing. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
He's been on a mug's game all these years. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
He's had the cockiness knocked out of him. We've seen the last of him. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
You can't beat the system, Mr Barrowclough. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
Oh, sorry. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 |