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When Porridge first hit our screens in the mid-'70s,

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it pulled in audiences of 20 million and was hailed as a British sitcom classic.

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Our map of Comedy Connections takes us on a 40-year journey to see how writers, director and actors

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created a series where the "sit" and "com" were in perfect harmony.

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People say Porridge was the best thing I did. I think they're right.

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The reason it has endured well is it doesn't date.

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven - EIGHT.

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Huh! Would you Adam and Eve it? "Go to jail"!

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At the time, none of us thought this would be going 25 years later!

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It was just impossible to believe.

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-All right, Fletcher. Just don't let me catch you thieving!

-I won't.

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-You won't what?

-I won't let you catch me, Mr Mackay!

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The recipe of Porridge's success is easy to see with hindsight.

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Two of TV's best writers gave great material to a talented director,

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who brought the best out of a gifted cast. How could it fail?

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Especially when, at the heart of Porridge, in the part of Norman Stanley Fletcher,

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was a comic giant - Ronnie Barker.

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To achieve that success, it needed Ronnie Barker,

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and the reason why is because you needed

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an actor of consummate skill in acting

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and a total knowledge of comedy.

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-That's from me. Bit mundane after cigars - but

-I

-knitted them!

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Did you? Aren't they nice! Lovely!

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I'll wear the other one when I get the bandage off, cos...

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-They're mittens!

-Eh?

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Oh, yeah - look at that! Oh, yeah!

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So how did it all begin?

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In the early '60s, the BBC gave two friends -

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trainee TV director Dick Clement and insurance salesman Ian La Frenais -

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the opportunity to write a comedy series called The Likely Lads.

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Two teas, love. One with, one without.

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Sugar's on the table.

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Steady! Some's gone into the cups(!)

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Audiences appreciated The Likely Lads' grip on real life

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and its lack of sitcom sofas.

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But sofas became part of the furniture in the follow-up success,

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Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads?

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It was an interesting time in TV -

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people willing to try new things.

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So we were lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

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Meanwhile, Ronnie Barker had been playing second fiddle to Jimmy Edwards in More Faces Of Jim.

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Then he emerged from the shadow, appearing in The Frost Report

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with Ronnie Corbett and a pre-Monty Python John Cleese.

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You stand before this court charged with arson, manslaughter,

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robbery with violence, rape, treason

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and three separate cases of murder. What have you to say for yourself?

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I'm terribly sorry!

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The success of The Frost Report marked Barker as a talent to watch and he was given his own show.

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Hark At Barker saw the start of a long association with David Jason.

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But it was the collaboration with Ronnie Corbett

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that launched the BBC on a hunt for a suitable starring vehicle.

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Seven Of One was designed to be pilots for possible series.

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It WAS to be Six Of One, so I could then do Half A Dozen Of The Other.

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But some wise executive added another script which put paid to that as a title.

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I commissioned some writers I'd been working with.

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Two from - cos there were seven programmes - so I got two from...

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Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, cos I'd done Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads? with them.

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The first of the two pilots by Clement and La Frenais introduced the public to Fletcher

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and to prison officers Mackay and Barrowclough.

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I suggested one episode could be a prison episode

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but mine was much more jokey - a sort of Bilko in prison.

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I talked to Dick and Ian and they wanted to do something deeper.

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-A Happy New Year to you, Fletcher. >

-Oh, yes - very witty, very droll(!)

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Prisoner And Escort had a guy

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who wanted to escape, so we knew that the character, mixed with Ronnie's kind of attitude,

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was someone up to something, So that was the core comic thing.

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-Don't come it with me!

-I wouldn't, Mr Mackay,

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or you'd wait till Hemel Hempstead and chuck me out the window.

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-He wouldn't do that!

-I suppose not.

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He couldn't spell Hemel Hempstead - he'd wait till we got to Rugby.

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CLEMENT: It's fair to say that the fact that it had great performances

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by Brian Wilde and Fulton Mackay

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gave you a head start. One had already established the bones of a different relationship

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between Fletcher and each of those two prison officers.

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He'd bring back the birch, him.

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-What's he on about?

-Mr Mackay runs group activities.

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Oh, yeah? Like rock-breaking and compulsory potholing.

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This is where another essential ingredient was added - the director Sydney Lotterby,

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whose record included Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em and The Liver Birds.

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His skill at getting performances from artistes

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is demonstrated by Frankie Howerd in Up Pompeii.

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-There, there, there, there!

-Oh!

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-Oh, there, there, there, there!

-Oh!

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-Ever so there, there, there! One for the road.

-Oh!

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Oh, there, there, there, there!

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LOTTERBY: The thing about comedy - about ALL television -

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is that the actor and the director - we are both, in fact, interpreters.

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The person who's got all the business, of course, is the writer.

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The creative team of writers, director and star that would make Porridge was now in place.

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They also did a second Seven Of One pilot - I'll Fly You For A Quid -

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about a Welsh family of gamblers.

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That's all going at 13-2, plus his original stake,

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that's 1, carry...5...that's 7, that's...

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My God! £848.42!

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Approximately.

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Less tax.

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No - I've allowed for that!

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It was make-your-mind-up time, as they said in the '70s.

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How different the history of TV comedy might have been if the BBC had followed Barker's instincts.

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It wasn't my favourite episode. The Welsh one, I thought would make the best series but I was talked round.

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The BBC agreed to a series based on Prisoner And Escort

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but it would be 18 months before it started recording,

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and Clement and La Frenais tested the waters at ITV with a series called Thick As Thieves.

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It starred Bob Hoskins as an ex-con who returns home

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to find best mate John Thaw has moved in with his wife.

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Cut yourself shaving?

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Every time you raised your voice!

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-There's TCP in there.

-No, we keep it in the bathroom.

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Oh, DO we?!

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-ITV were...

-It didn't quite work.

-There's something about ITV, they didn't do that stuff as...

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The BBC always did the half-hour comedies better than ITV, but this SHOULD have worked.

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We liked it. We were high on Thick As Thieves then.

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Confronted by the reality of six Porridge half-hours,

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getting laughs from incarceration looked like being hard labour,

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though the setting had one big advantage.

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The best situation comedy has always been in a confined environment,

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and there's nothing more confined than prison, so all those were valid reasons, but we had to overcome...

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the real horror of it, because prison is a deeply depressing place.

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The breakthrough came when they met former jailbird Jonathan Marshall

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who'd written a book about his time inside. This gave Clement and La Frenais the key to their character

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and how he could handle the daily, grinding tedium.

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Fletcher would survive on little victories.

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I get a bit depressed at times...

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We both remember that key phrase,

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that it was the kind of minutiae of everyday existence,

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the way that people like Fletcher, who are survivalists, look for an edge, or victory over "the man".

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You see yourself as working-class,

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-do you?

-Yeah. At least, I used to until I went up to Glasgow once - now I see myself as MIDDLE-class.

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Those victories were won against the man who embodied the system.

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Bringing the character of Prison Officer Mackay to life was his namesake, actor Fulton Mackay.

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Mr Mackay's battles with Fletcher gave the series most of its conflict and plenty of big laughs.

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Do everything by numbers?

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I refuse to rise to your bait, Fletcher.

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And it is naive of you to assume that I would.

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Even with your old lady - numbers?

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-IN SCOTTISH ACCENT:

-I'm about to make passionate love to you. Stand by your bed!

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Wait for it, wait for it! Two, three - knickers down!

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Before entering Slade Prison, Fulton Mackay had played a host of straighter roles,

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including one where the Doctor arrived a little too late.

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Fulton Mackay was in the running to play Doctor Who

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when Jon Pertwee hung up his hat.

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But the prison gates opened as the TARDIS door shut.

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On his release from Slade, Mackay was to play Local Hero's beach bum

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and appear with the Muppets as the lighthouse-keeper in Fraggle Rock.

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Fulton's whole body language,

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everything he did, the way he moved

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and his little twitches - you can't WRITE that.

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That's when an actor takes over a role and says, "This is now mine.

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"This is my suit of clothes and I'm wearing it." Fantastic!

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-Never turn your back on them!

-I've always thought the way to encourage trust was to SHOW trust.

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Mackay's cohort, Barrowclough, was a whole boxful of soft centres

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and a gift for Brian Wilde who had worked with Barker in the 1964 film The Bargee.

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Then he played Foggy in Last Of The Summer Wine.

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I'm all right. It's just that I get these murderous tempers!

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No, on the whole,

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you really shouldn't say anything to me that you couldn't safely say to John Wayne.

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Meanwhile, back in the clink, cast members were still being recruited.

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An important piece of the jigsaw - finding Fletcher's cellmate.

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We wanted to create a character who had never been to prison before.

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That way, the audience could learn about...the routine things

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that prison life involves.

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So cast as Fletcher's cellmate -

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step forward Lennie Godber, played by Richard Beckinsale.

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You WAS expecting me? They informed you?

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-They informed me.

-Only temporary.

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-You're too right, only temporary! Single cell, this is - it's mine.

-It's not MY fault.

-I'm just saying.

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Richard Beckinsale first starred on TV as Geoffrey Scrimshaw, the boyfriend of Paula Wilcox,

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in two series of The Lovers.

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He then played student Alan Moore in the bedsit sitcom Rising Damp and took on Leonard Rossiter.

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-Shake hands.

-Get him out of here!

-Why?

-It's morbid.

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I have to study anatomy, or how can I set bones?

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-If they make you a doctor, I'll write to the Medical Council!

-It's someone to talk to,

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and it's musical. # Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones... #

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That's not funny!

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Godber started prison life working in the kitchens but rose rapidly to be Fletcher's sidekick

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and perfect bottom-bunk occupant.

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How different it might have been if the BBC followed Barker's instinct.

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I didn't know his work. Indeed, I'd suggested a guy called Paul Henry

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as Godber to the director. He's a chap I'd worked with a year before.

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But the director said no. He thought that Richard had such warmth and charm and...innocence.

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Keep your nose clean, do your porridge.

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-I'm only here due to tragic circumstances.

-What?

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I got caught.

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He and Ronnie hit it off immediately

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and there was a father-son thing which worked extremely well. And Lennie was enormously sympathetic.

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-You stop that!

-What!

-That! Drawing attention to other people's peculiarities.

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I was saying to Jackie, too many youngsters poke fun at people cos they got short legs or long legs.

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Who's Jackie?

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Jackie - him in the hobby shop.

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Little fat poof with the ears like jug handles.

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-LA FRENAIS:

-Fletcher became the reluctant mentor of this guy

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who he didn't want in his cell but was put in his cell

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and who also didn't know anything.

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So the audience got a sense of the rules, what you do or don't do.

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It's the one place where you can get freedom. Dreams is your escape. No locked doors, no barriers.

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Dreams is freedom.

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-Freedom?

-Yeah.

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No locked doors, is there?

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Hey, yeah. ..Hey, yeah - you're right, Fletch!

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The Porridge team now had to find a cast of supporting characters to ensure this prison worked.

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Out came the form book and the names selected were...

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Sam Kelly as Bunny Warren...

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I'd read books if I could read.

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'Never knew what his real first name was.'

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And he was in for burglary

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because he couldn't read the sign that said "Burglar Alarm"!

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Christopher Biggins as Lukewarm...

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-Reading a book?

-Oh, don't YOU start!

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Go on knitting your balaclava - there might be another war.

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BIGGINS: Lukewarm was the iron hoof, in the Cockney slang - the poof.

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This character - an extension of myself - was always knitting.

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Tony Osoba as Mad Dog McLaren...

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Never knew my father, ma that didn't want me, orphanage, and I'm black with a Scots accent.

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What d'you want - happy-go-lucky(?)

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-It could be worse, son.

-Could it?

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No, I don't suppose it could, really.

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OSABA: The scripts were just easy -

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easy to learn, easy to do. You felt, "This just works beautifully."

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And playing Fletcher's daughter, Ingrid, with a voice that could strip paint, Patricia Brake...

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..Are you wearing a bra?

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-I don't need to.

-What d'you mean?

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Haven't for ages. My breasts are firm and pliant.

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Please, Ingrid!

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This isn't St Tropez - it's Slade bleedin' Prison!

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There's 600 men in here who'd go berserk at the sight of a shin,

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never mind unfettered knockers!

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I knew it was special in rehearsal.

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If something makes YOU laugh that you're in, you know it's good.

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Paul Henry might've missed the boat as Godber,

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but national acclaim came his way as Benny in Crossroads.

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A casting idea of Barker's that did pay dividends

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was a young actor who played characters much older than he was.

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As the geriatric lifer Blanco Webb, shuffle forward David Jason.

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We all know you didn't kill your old lady,

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so some other bloke did and you've paid the penance for it,

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but I don't want you going out harbouring any thoughts of revenge.

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No. I know him what did it. It were the wife's lover.

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-But I shan't look for him. He died years ago.

-That's all right, then.

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That I do know. I killed him.

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I had no idea who David was. Ronnie said, "I know who can do this part."

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So I looked at David Jason and thought, "He's so young!

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"He can't do this." He said, "HE can do it."

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David Jason had a glorious comedy future ahead of him.

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He had form and most of it was linked to Ronnie Barker.

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As well as appearing in Porridge,

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he appeared with Ronnie in Hark At Barker as a 100-year-old gardener

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and as a hitman in The Odd Job, hired by a suicidal Barker to bump him off.

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Leave it to me. When you're least expecting it...

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-Y-Yes, that sounds reasonable.

-Think nowt of it.

-Thanks.

-Right.

-Well, I suppose...

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The relationship continued when Jason appeared again with Barker

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as Granville in Open All Hours.

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Porridge, meanwhile, went from strength to strength.

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Its smooth running meant everyone got time off for good behaviour.

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It was an incredibly smooth process. It doesn't happen that way.

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-It was too easy.

-Nothing went wrong.

-We'd record the programmes...

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-What time?

-Eight o'clock.

-We'd be in the bar by 9.15.

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Mr Mackay is a strict Glasgow Presbyterian, you know.

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Sex is only allowed up there when Rangers beat Celtic!

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'I found Fletcher a very appealing character to play. He was crooked,'

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always looking for a swindle and trying to trick the authorities,

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but he respected fairness, I think.

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A cheeky character - he made me laugh.

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7.30 - slop-out, supper, 7.45 - lights out. Any questions?

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-Any point?

-None whatsoever.

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Clement and La Frenais' writing was always very, very funny.

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Very little alteration required. I would add the odd gag,

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but it was practically the finished article on the first read-through.

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Their scripts are always so good there's not much to do, which is great for a director.

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And if you've got good actors, all you do is let them get on with it,

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make sure you don't get in the way.

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And as you'd expect from a prison comedy, Clement and La Frenais liked to give themselves a stretch.

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The episode, A Night In, was set entirely in one cell.

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Dear God, thank you for getting me through another day.

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Thank you for the letter from Denise and the liquorice allsorts.

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Please look after Denise, and the same applies to me mam, dad -

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-wherever he is - Auntie Vi, Uncle Donald, Uncle Les and Auntie...

-Here!

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Is this a prayer or a dedication on the Jimmy Young Show?!

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It was a great challenge to have just two people talking in a cell.

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It was lit very dark - it was at night.

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It was just very atmospheric and very good

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and it was the first BAFTA it won, so that's a reason why it was my favourite too!

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Despite its huge audiences, Porridge came to an abrupt stop after a mere 21 episodes,

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bringing to an end if not Her Majesty's, then everybody else's pleasure.

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We only did three series. That was my fault.

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I didn't want to get stuck with being identified as Fletcher.

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I've seen actors stay too long in one character. Harry H Corbett as Steptoe - it happened to him.

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After Porridge, Barker returned to another of the Seven Of One pilots,

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corner shop sitcom Open All Hours.

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He teamed up once again with Sydney Lott and his protege David Jason.

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David Jason was, as always, a delight to work with.

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His timing and sense of comedy are superb, and a riot off camera.

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I've never laughed so much as I did with David.

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-Who's it for?

-11.

-You wrote 111.

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I've started st-stuttering in writing now!

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Even though Ronnie Barker wanted to move on, that didn't cut much ice with the BBC,

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and in their efforts to revive Fletcher, they resorted to drink.

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The BBC invited us to a thank-you lunch which went on till 5 o'clock,

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and after the seventh or second - I lost count - large brandy,

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we walked out having agreed to do a sequel called Going Straight.

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# I'm going straight, I am

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# Straight as an arrow... #

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I'd agreed to do one series of Going Straight,

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but it didn't seem to please the public. They missed the threat and discipline of prison.

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When I decided to work, I worked out all my qualifications.

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Know what they boiled down to?

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One driving licence. 45 years on this earth, that's all I got! One driving licence.

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Even that's got two endorsements.

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Fletcher was always a winner inside.

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When he went outside, for Going Straight, he was a bit of a loser.

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-They're all right.

-They don't go in this room.

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They will do when they're personalised.

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All you need's a family photo.

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That's all you need. Just a little ornament, like that. Perhaps a...

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Going Straight marked the first sitcom role for Nicholas Lyndhurst

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as Fletcher's gormless son Raymond.

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The series had an impeccable pedigree. All the collaborators from Porridge were involved again,

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but despite a plot which saw Godber marrying Fletcher's daughter,

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it showed the public thought Fletcher belonged behind bars.

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I think the reason it didn't work was the public wanted more Porridge and it wasn't the same.

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But there was more. In 1979,

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Porridge followed in the footsteps of many '70s sitcoms, making the transition to the big screen,

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although it never measured up to the original.

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For the American market, they had to reintroduce characters that were already well-known in this country.

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So, in a way, for me, 20 minutes of the film was...wasted,

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because they had to reintroduce Mr Mackay and Mr Barrowclough, which was a shame, really.

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Luckily, there was more to life after Porridge than repeat fees, though they're still coming in.

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Sam Kelly made a good impression, appearing in The Two Ronnies,

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and starred as Hans Geering in 'Allo 'Allo.

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CUCKOO! CUCKOO!

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Tony Osoba kept Charlotte Coleman in line in Educating Marmalade.

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Patricia Brake recreated June Whitfield's part of Eth in the TV version of The Glums

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before become really glum, after appearing in the doomed Eldorado.

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Christopher Biggins became successful in panto, playing...

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Christopher Biggins.

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What about the stars of Porridge?

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Richard Beckinsale never fulfilled his glorious early promise.

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In 1979, he died during the filming of the sitcom Bloomers, at the age of 31.

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His daughters Kate and Samantha carry on the Beckinsale acting tradition.

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# For he's a jolly good fellow For he's a jolly good fellow... #

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Fulton Mackay continued to deliver meticulous performances up to his death in 1987.

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But it's for his creation of Mackay, the scourge of Slade, that he's most fondly remembered.

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# For he's a jolly good fellow For he's a jolly good fellow... #

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Sydney Lotterby retired from TV in January 2003,

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after an association with the BBC that lasted over 60 years.

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He rounded off his career directing As Time Goes By, which ran for 10 years.

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Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais moved to Hollywood after Porridge -

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something that suits them. Auf Wiedersehen, Pet and The Commitments were written in LA.

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But for them, Porridge remains an enduring highlight.

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Now and again, everything goes, "Click, click, click." I don't think it's happened since!

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It was just extraordinary.

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And what of Ronnie Barker? Playing Fletcher made him king of comedy,

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a title he held on to until his last series Clarence in 1988,

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when he decided to retire.

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In the last couple of years, I've appeared in films, just for fun.

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But I'm still definitely retired again now.

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You see a difference in Fletcher.

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Sending him home has made him realise what he's been missing.

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He's been on a mug's game all these years.

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He's had the cockiness knocked out of him. We've seen the last of him.

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You can't beat the system, Mr Barrowclough.

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Oh, sorry.

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