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£18,500,000...

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The art world - where paintings change hands for fortunes.

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Selling at 95 million.

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But for every known masterpiece, there may be another waiting to be discovered.

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-Hello.

-Fiona. Nice to meet you. Oh, my word!

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They're known as sleepers. International art dealer

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Philip Mould hunts them down.

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In the past we looked AT pictures. Now, almost, you can look THROUGH them.

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Using cutting-edge science and investigative research, we've teamed

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up to find long-lost works by the great masters.

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Wow!

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The problem is, not every painting is quite what it seems.

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-When these paintings were thought to be genuine, how much were they worth?

-Millions.

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It's a journey that can end in joy...

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Isn't that great!

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..or bitter disappointment.

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I can't get my head round it, I really can't.

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In this episode,

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we meet a family from Leeds who seized the chance to invest

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in a painting that could be by a master of modern art - Marc Chagall.

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What did you pay for it?

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I paid about £100,000 for it.

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Gosh.

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But it comes with a warning. It's never been officially

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accepted as a genuine work.

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Our quest to prove that it's authentic plunges us into Chagall's Russian past

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and the most shadowy corners of the art market.

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How many fakes would you say are out there in the market?

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90%. Actually, I think it's more than that.

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Is this picture the bargain of a lifetime...

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If it's by Chagall, well, that could turn out to be rather cheap.

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..or a very expensive gamble on the notorious Russian art market?

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-Feeling confident?

-We've come this far. We're going to go to the bitter end.

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In the sleepy village of Tudeley in Kent,

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there is a little church with rather a special feature.

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-Hi there.

-Hi.

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A complete set of stained glass windows

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designed by one of the 20th century's greatest artists, Marc Chagall.

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-Wow.

-It's like an ocean of colours, isn't it?

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Picasso famously says that when Matisse dies, Chagall will be

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the only one left who truly understands colour

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and I have to say, it's quite extraordinary to encounter

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such an explosion of modern design in a country Kent church.

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These memorial windows were commissioned by a local family

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but Chagall's works, from stained glass and murals

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to oil paintings and watercolours, are more usually found

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in the world's great opera houses, cathedrals and art galleries.

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A pioneer of modern art, Chagall spent a large part of his life in France.

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His pictures have a childlike dream quality and a playful

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sense of the surreal, like this airborne depiction of his beloved wife Bella.

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His work is almost always inspired by memories of his Jewish upbringing

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in Russia, where he was born in 1887.

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So, a Russian Jew creating a window in an Anglican church

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in the Garden of England. It's incredible...contrast, isn't it?

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And actually, I've read about this window,

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though I've never seen it before, and it was commissioned because

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the daughter of a very wealthy local family, she died age 21 -

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tragically, she drowned - and that's her.

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See that floating in a swell of blue there?

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And her mother grieving up on the left.

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And then she is climbing up the ladder to Christ,

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heavenwards, presumably, and that's the story there.

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I mean, despite its modernity, it's a genuinely affecting image, isn't it?

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He was a really visionary artist.

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Chagall's colourful, emotional works are highly prized in the art market

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and we've received an intriguing e-mail from an English family in Leeds.

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-Have a look at this.

-Hang on.

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"Hi, I believe I have a Chagall in my possession.

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"From my research, it is known as

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"the Nude, 1909-1910, private collection, Moscow.

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"Please see attached picture of the painting." Which is that, I presume, is it?

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"Would your programme be interested in pursuing the authentication of this work by a popular artist?

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"Kind regards, Frazer Lang."

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I mean, as usual it's very difficult to tell just from a photograph

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but it's sort of got the appearance of a Chagall.

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These lovely blues as well - look.

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And there'd be a huge amount to play for.

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I mean, last year, I think, a Chagall made 13 million at auction

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in New York. If we could get this through, that would be thrilling.

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That WOULD be something.

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We're keen to find out more about the possible Chagall picture

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so Philip and I have travelled to the suburbs of Leeds to meet

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property developer Martin Lang, his wife, Jackie, and son, Frazer.

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-Hi, there.

-Hello, there.

-Pleased to meet you.

-We've come to see your Chagall.

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Please come in.

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Could they really have a major piece of modern art

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hanging in their hallway?

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I saw a documentary on Chagall,

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and I realised we've got one of those hanging on the wall.

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I looked in Dad's paperwork

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and I realised we haven't got a provenance on it,

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so I thought, "I'll phone Fake Or Fortune up. I'm sure they can help out!"

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Well, at first glance from where I'm standing, it looks like a Chagall, doesn't it?

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And you can't miss the boldness of that signature, can you - Chagall!

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And there's all sorts of symbolism going on in there with

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the faces on the left and the candelabra.

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Jackie, what do you make of it?

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Your eyes go straight to the picture and you see this lady

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but then as you look deeper into it, there's lots going on.

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It's almost like a mystery.

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And the way it all floats around in that dreamlike,

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discombobulated way. I mean, that's Chagall, and the colours as well.

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I mean, those very strident, quite almost shocking colours.

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The picture is one of several the family bought in the early '90s

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when they were putting the finishing touches on the decoration of their new home.

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Martin was interested in art that had begun to

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emerge from Russia after the fall of Communism

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and his interior designer knew how to get hold of it.

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We had an interior designer and she had a daughter, Debbie Hatchwell,

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a fine art consultant.

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And Debbie led us into Russian art.

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She explained to me what was happening with perestroika,

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that there was an opportunity to get hold of new art coming to the west from Russia

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that basically has never been on the market before - never been shown before.

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-Under the Communist regime.

-That's right.

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It was all pent up. All hidden away.

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I got a phone call from Debbie and she said, "Martin,

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"would you be interested in a Chagall?"

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That knocked me back a bit.

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As it would!

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Yeah, very much. And I said to her, I said, "Bring it along,

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"let's have a look at it," and I looked at it and I thought, wow!

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She said don't get too excited - it hasn't got a provenance at this stage that has been verified.

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Although Debbie Hatchwell had made clear that there was no proof that it was authentic,

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it did have a compelling piece of evidence in its favour.

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There's a book by a gentlemen called Kamensky,

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who wrote about this, who was a friend of Chagall.

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THAT Chagall painting was in this book by Kamensky?

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Yes, and also the interesting thing to see is that

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if you look very closely you'll notice there's a crease.

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That's in the painting and if you look at the book by Kamensky,

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the same crease is in that book.

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Actually, from time to time, I find damage on an old picture

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can be rather reassuring.

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What did you pay for it?

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I paid about £100,000 for it.

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-Gosh.

-That is a lot, if it's a fake.

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I mean, it's worth a fraction of that.

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But, of course, if it's by Chagall, well, that could turn out to

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be rather cheap cos it might be worth three, four, five times that.

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And if it's fake, how will you feel about it?

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We take it...we take it...we take it as it is.

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But hang on - it's a big loss!

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-I'll be singing on the streets of London!

-Yes.

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No, I think...we're prepared to take that risk.

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You take a risk in life on everything you do.

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After meeting the Lang family, Philip and I head back to London on

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the train. It's a chance to compare notes on what we've seen and heard.

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So what do you think?

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I...you know, I really like Martin and I really like the family

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and I want to make it work for them

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but there's a few issues with this picture.

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I mean, I'm not quite sure about the age of the picture, I'm not

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a Chagall specialist, but it needs to be, what, 100 years or more old.

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If I spent that kind of money on a painting with next to no provenance,

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it would keep me awake at night, but then, you know, I love his style!

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Risk taker. Seize the day.

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But then, you know, the Russian art market is...well, it's not too much of an exaggeration

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to say it is awash with fakes - and there was a big London

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auction house not very long ago got sued for £2 million, I think it was,

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because they sold a Russian painting that turned out to be a fake.

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If we're going to progress this picture, we've got to find out as much as we can about its history.

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We need to get our head of research on the case, Dr Bendor Grosvenor.

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First port of call - the Courtauld Institute Library, a vast collection

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of art-related documents, including many books on Marc Chagall.

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I've got here a copy of the book that Martin said his picture is in,

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and it's published in 1989, so it's three years before he bought it.

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It's called Chagall - The Russian Years, and it's by a chap called

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Aleksandr Kamensky, who's a pretty eminent Soviet art critic and art historian.

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In fact, there's rather a nice little photo here of Chagall

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with Kamensky and apparently they were quite close - so on the surface

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it would seem that this Kamensky book is a very good authority.

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And here on page 28 is Martin's picture.

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And we can even see the crease that is still visible in Martin's painting today.

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So it's definitely one and the same thing.

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"Nude, 1909-10, private collection, Moscow."

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So that would appear to be pretty conclusive.

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So it would be really nice to know how this picture

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got into Kamensky's very respected book.

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Someone must have given him a photograph, or perhaps he even saw it.

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And Kamensky was convinced we were dealing with a genuine Chagall.

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Chagall's Russian years spanned some of the most dramatic

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events of the early 20th century,

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from the First World War to the Russian Revolution.

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He learned his craft in his hometown of Vitebsk in Russia, depicted

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here with the figure of a beggar from Jewish folklore floating above

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the rooftops, but I'm intrigued by the years he spent in Paris

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between 1910 and 1914, when he created a rather familiar-looking picture.

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I've also got an exhibition catalogue of Chagall's works

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from an exhibition in Germany in 1921 in Potsdam

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and that includes this very similar watercolour of a reclining nude.

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Painted in 1911, its stark lines and geometric patterns reveal the

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influence of the Cubist artists that Chagall was rubbing shoulders with.

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But how does it relate to Martin's picture?

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The one we're dealing with here in the exhibition in Germany is totally genuine.

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It's got a provenance that goes all the way back.

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We can be certain about this being by Chagall.

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So is Martin's picture a preparatory study, is it a second version,

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did Chagall do two versions of the same subject?

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Or is it something that came after the event?

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Is it a copy of this genuine work?

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Bendor's been busy, and we're all meeting up in Philip's gallery.

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Martin has been digging up all the paperwork relating to his painting,

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and he's got one rather interesting letter - it's from Debbie Hatchwell,

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who was the fine art agent who brokered the sale of the painting

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in the first place - and I quite like the look of this paragraph here.

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"This painting has been in the hands of a private collector

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"for the last 20 years.

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"Before this, it was owned by a lady dancer called Kavarska..." Kavarska!

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"..who was a very good friend of Chagall's first wife in Russia."

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Chagall's first wife was called Bella Rosenfeld - I've got

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rather a nice photograph of him painting her here. They were married

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in 1915 and she came from Vitebsk, which was Chagall's home town.

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This Kavarska sounds interesting, though,

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because if that is true, she was the first owner

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of the painting and that's a really good lead in terms of provenance.

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Kavarska gets another mention in this letter a bit further on here.

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"This painting was given to Kavarska before the Revolution

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"and before Chagall emigrated to the West."

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That's actually very helpful, isn't it?

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Because we know the painting is purported to have been

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done 1909-1910 and this gives us a provenance to back it up.

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It was owned prior to 1917, the date of the Revolution.

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We've been in touch with this Debbie Hatchwell

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and she has said that the painting originally

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came from a Russian art dealer, a guy called Alexander Shlepyanov,

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who was working in London for an auction house called Phillips.

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Ah, Phillips, I remember it well. Together with the two main

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auction houses, Sotheby's and Christie's, they were major

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players until they were taken over by Bonhams in 2001.

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The only auctioneers, I gather, who actually managed to hold

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a sale within Buckingham Palace.

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But this is reassuring, because that auction house had status.

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Someone who worked for them thus had it as well

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and it lends a bit more credence to the attribution.

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Well, let's take stock for a minute. The painting is owned my Martin Lang at present.

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He bought it from the art consultant Debbie Hatchwell.

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SHE got the painting from this Russian Alexander Shlepyanov,

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who worked for Phillips at the time.

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He obtained the painting from a private collector,

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we don't know who, in Moscow.

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Before that, we think it was owned by this Russian dancer, Kavarska,

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and presumably before that, if all this is true,

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it was in the hands of Chagall himself.

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If we can make all this add up, then we can take the picture to

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the only people who can authenticate a Chagall painting - the Chagall Committee,

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which is run in Paris by the artist's two granddaughters.

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But as we know, those academic committees are no pushover.

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And we've also got this other problem with this picture.

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It comes from a dark period in Russian history.

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Anything so associated with the Russian art world,

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I have to say, does come with a health warning.

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But what I want to do more than anything else is have a good look at those pigments,

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work out what the paint is.

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What I'd like to do is dig a bit more into the painting's history and see what I can find there.

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The hunt for evidence starts in the former Russian Republic of Belarus,

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where Chagall was born and raised at the turn of the 20th century.

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I've brought Martin here in search of information about his picture

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and how it might fit into the story of the artist's life.

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One of the most important leads we can follow up lies in the very

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title of Martin's painting -

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Nude, 1909-10.

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That very specific set of dates places the picture at a key moment

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in Chagall's life, when he left art school in St Petersburg

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and returned to his hometown of Vitebsk.

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We've joined up with local journalist Ilya Kuzniatsou.

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He's brought us to the outskirts of town

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for a glimpse of the world Chagall grew up in.

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So, we've stopped here on the outskirts of Vitebsk

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because I wanted to show you the houses.

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Um, this is the shape of houses they would have in Vitebsk in the end of 19th century.

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Back then it was mainly a Jewish town.

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More than half of the people were Jewish.

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And they were traders.

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Yes, because Chagall's father was in the herring trade, wasn't he?

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-Right.

-He was a labourer.

-Yes.

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And Chagall talked about his father coming home with his clothes

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glistening with herring brine, which is quite an image.

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And then his mother ran a grocery shop.

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-Right.

-I mean, this, I imagine, is a bit more picturesque

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than the poor side of town that Chagall lived in

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with all the houses crowded together,

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everyone living on top of each other.

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In fact he described his paintings...he said,

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every painting is the spirit and reflection of Vitebsk.

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The thriving Jewish community

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Chagall depicted in I And The Village

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was almost was almost completely destroyed in the Second World War.

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But you can easily picture the mournful fiddlers

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and toiling peasants he drew inspiration from

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and immortalised in works such as The Green Donkey.

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Could Martin's picture be another of Chagall's scenes of Vitebsk?

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If you look at the houses and the roofs...

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Now, look at this place in particular,

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and then look at his picture here. Let's turn it upside down.

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The roofs, there. And the shapes of those roofs.

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-You get a real sense of that, don't you? What d'you think?

-Very much.

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I do as well. It's... The colours stand out as well.

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You look at the colours as we walk past these properties.

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-These blues.

-They're vibrant. Just vibrant colours.

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And these churches here are very much typical of the area.

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Back then in Vitebsk, there was, I think, 30 Orthodox churches,

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and 60 synagogues.

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So this looks like one of the Orthodox churches,

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maybe Uspensky Cathedral.

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Because they have these kind of shapes in the domes and architecture.

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And these are what Chagall talks about

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when he was in his attic room that he shared with his brother

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-and he would look out of the window...

-Yes, yes.

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..and he would see the stars and the roofs and the fences and the beams and the courtyards,

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and he would wonder what was going on in the world within.

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Does this make a bit more sense to you?

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-It does.

-Seeing it here in situ?

-Oh, very much.

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Before I came here, I wouldn't have got the picture in my mind

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with how he lived his life.

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But since I came here, I've looked around,

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I've seen the properties, I've seen the people themselves,

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everything's coming together.

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Martin, I've brought along the letter that you were given

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when you bought this painting, which talks about the provenance of it.

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And it mentions in particular that it was owned by a lady dancer called Kavarska...

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-That's right.

-..who was a good friend of Chagall's first wife.

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Ilya, you've been doing a bit of work into it, into Kavarska.

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What have you found out?

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In this spelling, this doesn't seem right.

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It could be slightly different.

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It could be misspelt.

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Because if it was "Kovarskaya", then it sounds more or less...

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-"Kovarskaya."

-Kovarskaya. It sounds more or less correct.

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-So we need to cast our net a bit wider, Martin.

-I think so.

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-Because in Belarus, it's clearly not a name that belongs here.

-Yes.

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At the end of our day in Vitebsk, Martin and I head for a cafe to take stock.

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I've been researching Chagall's life

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and I've got a theory about the possible identity of the mysterious nude.

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I've been having a little think about who this woman could be,

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if this is by Chagall.

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Now, 1909-1910, when Chagall was here in Vitebsk,

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he had girlfriend called Thea Brachmann.

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Her house was full of congeniality and music and laughter.

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Now, he painted her nude a number of times.

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I guess, well, it's an artistic tradition but also

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if you're a young man and you can get away with it, I'm sure you would!

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-Yes!

-So you've got Chagall, Red Nude, 1909.

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And this is Thea Brachmann here and she's...

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she's the colour of borscht, isn't she?

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A nice bit of beetroot soup!

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And she's always described, Thea Brachmann, as broad-shouldered and big-boned.

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She is there.

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She is there. Now it's possible that this could be her.

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Since the dates of Martin's picture coincide with Chagall's relationship

0:21:070:21:10

with Thea Brachmann - could this be a lost portrait of her?

0:21:100:21:14

While Fiona and Martin spend more time exploring Vitebsk,

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his son Frazer and I are on our way to the University College, London,

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to meet Dr Libby Sheldon, an art historian

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who specialises in the forensic analysis of fine art.

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She's going to examine our possible Chagall to see how it was created.

0:21:340:21:38

-Hi. This is Frazer.

-Hello.

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Ah, and here is the picture.

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OK, Libby, so, what do you make of it?

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It seems to me fairly confident and the colours are rather beautiful,

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and rather well harmonised.

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Whoever put this together has made changes of mind

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about what colour to use.

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Looking at it more closely under the microscope,

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I can see that there are quite a lot of differences in texture,

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and that's quite a good thing.

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Around the left-hand edge there's a red, bright red underneath

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-one of the greens, so...entirely covered...

-That's fascinating.

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..so that that's not really the sort of thing you might expect of a copyist or a pasticher.

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OK. So nothing stands out that could be an obvious problem.

0:22:320:22:37

No, no, and there's a confidence about it that's rather charming.

0:22:370:22:42

Um, so if it is wrong, then it's a very clever, um...later pastiche.

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Libby's initial impressions are encouraging

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but I'm keen to know more about the medium - the paint itself.

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It looks like gouache, a kind of watercolour thickened with

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gum arabic that Chagall frequently used - but is it?

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What is this - what is it made from?

0:23:040:23:06

My impression of it is that it's a gouache, which is water soluble.

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OK, so it might be a watercolour but not watercolour that we're

0:23:110:23:16

used to - the transparent look - but a more pasty version of it.

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Exactly.

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On the surface, Martin's picture looks to have been painted

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with the same materials Chagall used in other works of this period

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but Libby wants to test a sample to check that it's old enough to

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have been done between 1909 and 1910.

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OK, you've got a lot of bottles there.

0:23:370:23:39

What's the first test you're going to do?

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The first test we could do is for acrylic,

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because that's critical in terms of date.

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And if it is an acrylic paint?

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Then that would be wrong, because it would be later,

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because such acrylic paints were only manufactured after the Second World War.

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-I see.

-So it would be a fake.

-Yes.

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If acrylic paint IS present, it will dissolve when rubbed

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with a solvent called xylene - and we'll see paint on the swab.

0:24:020:24:07

OK, Frazer, so we really don't want this to dissolve.

0:24:070:24:11

Right, so I'll just do a test on the very edge

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at this damaged corner.

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And now I'm just rolling it very gently on the edge of the painting

0:24:200:24:25

so that I can see whether the paint is being taken up by this solvent.

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And it isn't.

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And I don't know if you can see that there's no pigment on there.

0:24:370:24:41

It's having no effect at the moment.

0:24:410:24:43

Yeah. I mean, we're looking anxiously at your swab.

0:24:430:24:46

It's still white, it hasn't turned blue - which is presumably

0:24:460:24:49

what would happen if it was acrylic.

0:24:490:24:51

Er, yes.

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The absence of acrylic is a relief. Next, a swab with saliva.

0:24:530:24:57

It's an art-world trick to confirm the presence of watercolour

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without dissolving and spreading the paint, but it also reveals

0:25:010:25:04

tiny particles of blue pigment that Libby is concerned about.

0:25:040:25:08

Now, the problem is that the blue

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looks a very stainy sort of blue.

0:25:120:25:15

Sorry - stainy blue?

0:25:150:25:17

It doesn't have individual particles,

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so it's either Prussian Blue, which would be fine for this period,

0:25:200:25:27

or it's Phthalocyanine Blue, which is a new blue that came in in the 1930s.

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Which we so don't want it to be.

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No, so we'd have to do further tests on that to find out what it was.

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So far, so good. I mean, we've established that it's painted

0:25:430:25:47

in gouache, we've established that it's painted

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in layers, so whoever the artist is, is thinking carefully how to do it.

0:25:500:25:57

But there are pigments which if they prove to be wrong,

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if they prove to be later than they should be,

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it would shoot the Chagall attribution out of the sky.

0:26:030:26:07

Back in Belarus, Martin and I have arrived in the capital,

0:26:110:26:14

Minsk, for our return flight, but journalist Ilya has turned up

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an old article he felt he had to share with us before we leave.

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I was doing my research and the first thing that popped out,

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a story in 2006. There's an English version of it.

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-You might be interested.

-Pravda, the old Soviet news agency, there's a name to conjure with.

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"Marc Chagall's painting auctioned for 650,000 is a fake."

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So, this is back in 2005.

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"A scandal broke out in the capital of Belarus following the sale

0:26:440:26:47

"of a previously unknown painting by Marc Chagall at auction in Minsk.

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"The painting was purchased for 650,000 by an individual

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"who remained anonymous.

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"The painting had been kept in Russia for the last 80 years."

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How long has your painting been kept in Russia for?

0:27:040:27:06

I would say the same. 80 years.

0:27:060:27:08

About 80 years. "The auction house representatives are reluctant to give away

0:27:080:27:12

"any details as to the painting's previous owner.

0:27:120:27:15

"They just say the painting is an heirloom.

0:27:150:27:17

"They claim the authenticity of the painting was verified by a private expert.

0:27:170:27:21

"It was allegedly painted by Marc Chagall

0:27:210:27:23

"while he was in the town of Vitebsk, sometime during 1915 and 1920.

0:27:230:27:29

"Although Marc Chagall's paintings are not forged as frequently

0:27:290:27:33

"as other famous Russian artists, art crooks are no stranger to his works."

0:27:330:27:38

It's a worry, isn't it, when you see that?

0:27:380:27:41

Only for the faint-hearted.

0:27:410:27:45

I like your style!

0:27:450:27:47

Nothing's going to deter you, is it?

0:27:470:27:49

No.

0:27:490:27:51

We've come this far, we're going to go to the bitter end.

0:27:510:27:54

When you're in Vitebsk, it's easy to get caught up

0:27:540:27:57

in the romance of Marc Chagall's life story.

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The atmosphere of the town, the streets in which he lived,

0:28:000:28:04

and just begin perhaps to imagine the story of Martin's painting.

0:28:040:28:08

I know as well as anybody that Chagalls are faked many times over,

0:28:080:28:12

but that report is a reality check.

0:28:120:28:15

It certainly gives you pause for thought.

0:28:150:28:18

I mean, hopefully, that's where the similarities end.

0:28:180:28:21

Back in Philip's gallery, we all meet up to take stock.

0:28:260:28:31

Looking at Martin's picture in Vitebsk, it was very interesting,

0:28:310:28:34

it all began to make a lot more sense, but we drew a complete

0:28:340:28:37

blank with the dancer, Kavarska, didn't get anywhere with her.

0:28:370:28:40

Well, I've been having a look at the other end of the evidence trail,

0:28:400:28:43

trying to find out more about this Russian art dealer

0:28:430:28:46

who's supposed to have had Martin's painting before he bought it, Alexander Shlepyanov.

0:28:460:28:51

Now, I've got some video footage of him here which was shot quite recently in April 2012.

0:28:510:28:56

It's a programme about Russian expatriates living in London, called Moscow On Thames.

0:28:560:29:00

Anyway, here he is talking about his passion for Russian art

0:29:000:29:03

and collecting Russian art.

0:29:030:29:05

Schlepyanov still lives in London, but he can't talk to us

0:29:050:29:08

about Martin's picture because he's been rather unwell

0:29:080:29:13

but he does remember something about a dancer called Kovarskaya.

0:29:130:29:17

That's interesting, because Kavarska doesn't appear to be

0:29:170:29:19

a genuine name in Belarus according to our researcher,

0:29:190:29:22

but Kovarskaya is a genuine Russian name, he thought.

0:29:220:29:27

So did you get anywhere with trying to find out

0:29:270:29:29

-if anyone actually has that name?

-We have a researcher in Russia who's looking into both

0:29:290:29:33

variants of Kovarskaya and Kavarska as the name of a dancer,

0:29:330:29:36

and so far we've got nothing.

0:29:360:29:38

-So you've drawn a blank?

-Drawn a blank.

0:29:380:29:40

Hmm, I wonder if that's a bit ominous.

0:29:400:29:42

Because when I was in Belarus I came across this article in Pravda

0:29:420:29:47

and that was a very expensive fake and its provenance was

0:29:470:29:51

scarily similar to that of Martin's painting.

0:29:510:29:54

I agree with you but let's not forget the scientific tests

0:29:540:29:59

have not disproved it yet, in fact there's still hope

0:29:590:30:02

that they could prove positive.

0:30:020:30:05

But we are definitely moving into darker, less charted waters,

0:30:050:30:09

and there are experts out there who I think might be able to help us.

0:30:090:30:13

While Martin's picture awaits further tests,

0:30:150:30:17

I've arranged to meet a London art dealer

0:30:170:30:19

who specialises in the Russian market, James Butterwick.

0:30:190:30:23

I first went to the Soviet Union in 1985.

0:30:230:30:27

He was buying art from Russia at the time Martin's picture

0:30:270:30:31

came on the market, but after 30 years in the business

0:30:310:30:33

he's learned to be exceedingly cautious.

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When it comes to Russian modern art, or avant-garde art, as it's sometimes called,

0:30:360:30:41

how many fakes are there out in the market compared to genuine works of art, would you say?

0:30:410:30:45

In a week's work, I will be sent quite a lot of pictures

0:30:450:30:50

for my expert opinion

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and I would say that during a month,

0:30:520:30:57

I will be sent maybe 30-35, you know, photographs, of which,

0:30:570:31:04

34.5 are worthless.

0:31:040:31:06

After the fall of Communism, art from Russia flooded onto

0:31:060:31:10

the market, with collectors snapping up works by famous

0:31:100:31:14

names like Chagall and artists previously unknown in the West.

0:31:140:31:17

As demand grew and prices rose,

0:31:170:31:19

forgers infiltrated the market on an unprecedented scale.

0:31:190:31:23

How come there are so many out there and so many people are taken in?

0:31:230:31:27

They are convinced that they can buy a picture for half a million pounds

0:31:270:31:31

and then sell it tomorrow for 20. They can't.

0:31:310:31:34

It just doesn't happen, so that's number one - greed.

0:31:340:31:38

Secondly, people want to believe it's genuine, and they

0:31:380:31:43

sort of convince themselves in every way, shape or form that it is genuine, without taking

0:31:430:31:49

a huge step back and analysing why it's genuine.

0:31:490:31:53

We're looking at a painting that purports to be by Chagall.

0:31:530:31:57

And it comes with some kind of provenance. What would sound

0:31:570:32:03

alarm bells for you?

0:32:030:32:05

First of all, if it had been purported to have been

0:32:050:32:09

a gift from Chagall to somebody, for example, in Vitebsk.

0:32:090:32:14

It's awfully difficult to prove that.

0:32:140:32:16

What if the painting had appeared in a book by a Russian art historian?

0:32:160:32:21

This is an extremely moot point,

0:32:210:32:24

because the incidences of works by Russian painters appearing

0:32:240:32:30

in books that are purported to be genuine are, regrettably, legion.

0:32:300:32:36

-And these works then turn out to be fake?

-Oh, yes.

0:32:360:32:39

They were faked before they were even put in the book, it's

0:32:390:32:43

a really moot point, it's a big, big problem.

0:32:430:32:48

What's going on there? Is that because the art historians

0:32:480:32:51

don't know, are they complicit in some way?

0:32:510:32:53

They are complicit sometimes, on other occasions I think

0:32:530:32:57

they're just simply extremely bad at their jobs.

0:32:570:33:00

How naive would you have been, then, to buy a Russian work of art,

0:33:000:33:06

in the early 1990s?

0:33:060:33:09

A lot of people looked upon Russia and Russia's culture,

0:33:090:33:12

slightly through rose-tinted spectacles,

0:33:120:33:15

because it was glasnost, it was perestroika, it was a time

0:33:150:33:19

of enormous optimism, so I don't think it's necessarily that naive.

0:33:190:33:23

From the way James describes the quantity of fakes out

0:33:240:33:27

there in the market, and the difficulties of buying a genuine

0:33:270:33:31

work, it's clear that if you're even thinking of buying a Russian

0:33:310:33:35

art work without its full provenance, you might as well just plunge

0:33:350:33:38

your hand into a tank of piranhas - it's that difficult and it's that risky.

0:33:380:33:42

And even now there's an investigation going on,

0:33:420:33:45

that stretches from Germany to Israel, where there is faking

0:33:450:33:49

going on on an industrial scale of modern Russian artists.

0:33:490:33:53

James doesn't know about Martin's painting in particular,

0:33:530:33:56

and we've still got a lot of work to do on it

0:33:560:33:58

and tests to come back, but it does give you a bit of a sinking feeling.

0:33:580:34:05

Those words of warning make our quest

0:34:090:34:13

for evidence in support of Martin's painting more urgent than ever.

0:34:130:34:16

So Bendor is researching the important art collector who

0:34:160:34:20

helped to arrange the sale.

0:34:200:34:22

I've been trying to find out a little bit more

0:34:250:34:27

about Alexander Shlepyanov.

0:34:270:34:29

And I've got an article here written in 1989.

0:34:290:34:31

He was quite a famous scriptwriter

0:34:310:34:34

and film-maker in the Soviet Union and then came to live in London,

0:34:340:34:37

and he brought with him his quite important collection of Russian art,

0:34:370:34:40

and in fact he lent some pictures to the first significant exhibition of

0:34:400:34:44

Russian art held in London in 1989 at the Barbican. There's one here

0:34:440:34:48

by an artist called Bogomazov, and the picture is listed as

0:34:480:34:51

Portrait Of The Artist's Wife from the collection of AI Shlepyanov.

0:34:510:34:57

Anyway, I think the most significant thing is that he says in this

0:34:570:35:01

article that his passion now, as before, is Russian art of the 1910s

0:35:010:35:05

and 1920s, so this is exactly the period

0:35:050:35:08

that Martin's painting is supposed to have been painted.

0:35:080:35:11

And then he goes on to say, "There are still many fine pieces to

0:35:110:35:14

"be had in Britain." So this sounds like it's his area of expertise,

0:35:140:35:17

and I think we need to get in touch with him to find out what else

0:35:170:35:19

he can tell us about Martin's painting, in particular

0:35:190:35:23

the name of the private collector who owned it before it came to England.

0:35:230:35:27

I'm also getting in touch with our Russian researcher,

0:35:270:35:30

Elena, to see if she's found any references to a dancer called

0:35:300:35:33

Kavarska or Kovarskaya.

0:35:330:35:37

'Zdravstvujte...'

0:35:380:35:40

Elena? Hello, it's Bendor in London.

0:35:400:35:43

'Oh, hi, how are you?'

0:35:430:35:45

I'm all right, thank you for all your help.

0:35:450:35:47

I wonder if you had any news about our mysterious dancer?

0:35:470:35:50

-Thank you so much, Elena.

-'Cheery.'

-Cheerio, bye.

-'Take care, bye.'

0:36:110:36:16

I think that's a "nyet" on the dancer, isn't it?

0:36:160:36:20

While Bendor continues his research,

0:36:250:36:27

I've arrived in America on business,

0:36:270:36:30

and whilst here I've managed to secure a meeting with one of

0:36:300:36:34

the art world's most infamous characters, a forger called Tony Tetro.

0:36:340:36:40

A highly skilled painter in his own right,

0:36:400:36:43

he made a fast buck in the '70s and '80s by faking Rembrandts, Miros

0:36:430:36:47

and Dalis to order, until he was jailed in the early '90s.

0:36:470:36:52

I've come to seek his unique perspective on the work

0:36:520:36:55

of an artist he faked scores of times in every medium - Chagall.

0:36:550:37:00

Tony, good to meet you. Great cars.

0:37:020:37:04

You have impeccable taste!

0:37:040:37:06

You have history with Chagall, and you were at one point in

0:37:090:37:14

the courts with Chagall,

0:37:140:37:17

and you faked his work, or you created works...

0:37:170:37:22

I faked his work. That was over 22 years ago.

0:37:220:37:27

1989 - longer - I'm losing track myself.

0:37:270:37:31

So, you then had to get into the mind of Chagall...

0:37:310:37:36

To do it properly, yes.

0:37:360:37:38

How do you get the technique right to begin with?

0:37:380:37:41

How do you go about painting a Chagall?

0:37:410:37:44

People who know Chagall, even art dealers, they can see

0:37:440:37:48

there's something wrong when the colours aren't just right. I did a Chagall one time, a gouache,

0:37:480:37:53

and the red was wrong, and a guy picked up on it, an art dealer

0:37:530:37:56

not an expert, and he said, "That red is wrong," and he was right,

0:37:560:38:01

and from that point on, I made sure my colours were correct, they have to be correct.

0:38:010:38:06

So, how many works by Chagall that actually you did are out there

0:38:060:38:11

in museums and collections?

0:38:110:38:13

Hundreds, and that's including lithographs and etchings, of course.

0:38:130:38:18

So your hand is on all of these works

0:38:180:38:21

and where do you think they are now - museums...?

0:38:210:38:24

I have idea and I don't want to know.

0:38:240:38:27

Of the hundreds of fake Chagall's

0:38:270:38:29

that Tony produced in Los Angeles, few have ever been found.

0:38:290:38:33

So, I have to ask a pressing question about Martin's picture.

0:38:330:38:38

So this purports, and may indeed well be,

0:38:380:38:43

a Chagall of 1909-1910.

0:38:430:38:45

I never did anything in 1910, that old.

0:38:460:38:49

Well, that's a relief.

0:38:490:38:51

You know, I thought maybe I did it when they were telling me about this.

0:38:510:38:55

One of my questions to you was...

0:38:550:38:57

No, I didn't!

0:38:570:38:58

HE LAUGHS

0:38:580:38:59

You can anticipate my question, can't you?

0:38:590:39:02

Tell me your thoughts about this.

0:39:020:39:03

It lacks some Chagall-ness, and the perimeter lines around the body seem to be

0:39:030:39:09

too thick, he would have done them thinner and more sporadic - see they're all connected,

0:39:090:39:16

it's one flow. He would have done shorter, jerky movements

0:39:160:39:22

The candelabra is nice, this is actually a nice piece.

0:39:220:39:26

He developed his colour sense as time went by.

0:39:260:39:29

In 1910, he didn't really have it. The colours he put together,

0:39:290:39:33

the greens with purples and blues and everything...

0:39:330:39:36

Here, he hasn't developed it yet, so this could be on par.

0:39:360:39:40

'When Tony was faking Chagall's work,

0:39:400:39:43

'he spent hours practising one key element, the signature.

0:39:430:39:47

'Chagall would change the way he signed his name

0:39:470:39:50

'depending on the type of work he was up to,

0:39:500:39:52

'so what does Tony make of the signature on Martin's painting?'

0:39:520:39:56

It's a gouache, it's a gouache signature,

0:39:560:39:58

it's a different medium, so we'd have a different signature.

0:39:580:40:01

The 'A's do not look correct to me, the 'L' Chagall could have

0:40:010:40:05

done that way, too. I wouldn't be happy with those 'L's.

0:40:050:40:08

Chagall would sometimes do a capital 'A' rather than a letter 'A' or handwritten A.

0:40:080:40:16

And, because it's gouache, you can only get it right once?

0:40:160:40:19

If I were to do this, to do a Chagall gouache, I would sit for hours

0:40:190:40:23

and hours practising the signature and sometimes I would choke.

0:40:230:40:28

What we've just seen has been a real revelation. I mean, we're no nearer

0:40:280:40:34

knowing whether Martin's picture is real or fake, but what it has shown,

0:40:340:40:39

in a rather worrying way, is just how easy it is to fake a Chagall.

0:40:390:40:45

Tony makes it look like karaoke, he stands up there

0:40:450:40:49

gets into the zone, into the spirit of the artist.

0:40:490:40:53

Now, obviously, he's proficient, knows exactly how to paint and draw,

0:40:530:40:56

but it makes you think.

0:40:560:40:59

When Philip arrives home from America, we get together

0:41:020:41:05

and head to the Chemistry Department in University College, London.

0:41:050:41:09

It was really fascinating going to LA and meeting Tony Tetro,

0:41:090:41:13

but it was also worrying because this is a man who knows what a fake

0:41:130:41:17

looks like - he was after all doing them till the late 1980s.

0:41:170:41:21

And he definitely had his doubts about the picture.

0:41:210:41:25

Did he?

0:41:250:41:26

Well, I met a chap, James Butterwick, who's an art

0:41:260:41:30

dealer specialising in Russian art and he claims that 90%

0:41:300:41:33

of the work out there in the Russian art market is fake.

0:41:330:41:36

90%!

0:41:360:41:37

So there is a lot riding on these scientific tests, that's for sure.

0:41:370:41:41

We're meeting with Dr Tracey Chaplin. She's going

0:41:440:41:48

to analyse Martin's picture with a brilliantly incisive tool

0:41:480:41:52

that can pinpoint the exact pigments in a painting - a Raman laser microscope.

0:41:520:41:57

Martin and Fraser are joining us to witness the results.

0:41:570:42:02

When Libby looked at your picture, she homed in on that

0:42:020:42:05

incredibly useful colour, blue.

0:42:050:42:08

And she managed to establish that it was likely to be either

0:42:080:42:12

Prussian Blue, invented in 1704, or Phthalocyanine, which is a slightly

0:42:120:42:17

more problematic pigment because it was invented in the 1930s.

0:42:170:42:25

Now, if we think about what we know about the history

0:42:250:42:27

of your painting, you understand from the documentation you were given with your picture

0:42:270:42:32

that it was painted by Chagall,

0:42:320:42:35

probably in Vitebsk between 1909 and 1910, and then given to this

0:42:350:42:40

mysterious dancer, Kavarska, before the Russian revolution in 1917,

0:42:400:42:45

so if it is

0:42:450:42:47

Phthalocyanine Blue, invented in the 1930s, then that's very problematic.

0:42:470:42:52

Absolutely.

0:42:520:42:54

So that's what we're not hoping to find.

0:42:540:42:57

-Let's keep our fingers crossed, then.

-Let's find out.

0:42:570:43:01

Tracey, you're going to be doing the tests for us, thank you.

0:43:010:43:04

How does this work?

0:43:040:43:06

We shine a very low-powered laser light onto the surface of the

0:43:060:43:09

painting, and we look at the light that's scattered back, and that

0:43:090:43:12

scattering will tell us exactly what material is present in the painting.

0:43:120:43:15

Each pigment produces a unique spectrum of light,

0:43:150:43:19

a Raman spectrum, that can be plotted on a graph.

0:43:190:43:22

The blue pigments we're testing might look similar to the eye,

0:43:220:43:27

but their Raman spectra are strikingly different when displayed on a graph.

0:43:270:43:31

If it's Prussian Blue, we'll see a single sharp peak.

0:43:310:43:36

If it's Phthaolcyanine Blue, we'll see many smaller peaks.

0:43:360:43:40

So we definitely don't want the mountain.

0:43:400:43:43

Not really.

0:43:430:43:45

Shall we start?

0:43:450:43:46

This is it - a single test that might mean

0:43:490:43:52

the difference between £500,000 and nothing at all.

0:43:520:43:57

Now, what are we seeing there?

0:44:230:44:26

What we're seeing is a series of very sharp peaks

0:44:260:44:29

which are indicative...

0:44:290:44:32

..of Phthalocyanine Blue.

0:44:340:44:37

Ah.

0:44:380:44:40

So that means, doesn't it, that this can only have been

0:44:400:44:44

painted after Phthalocyanine Blue was invented, effectively, which is the 1930s.

0:44:440:44:51

1930s, this is paint from the 1930s.

0:44:510:44:54

So, Martin, I suspect that probably wasn't what you wanted to see.

0:44:540:44:59

Not at all, no.

0:44:590:45:01

How do you feel about that?

0:45:010:45:03

Well, obviously I feel a bit knocked back on that.

0:45:030:45:08

It wasn't what we were expecting or hoping for.

0:45:080:45:10

That paint could not have been put on in Vetebsk between 1909, 1910.

0:45:100:45:16

I'm in a turmoil at the moment. I keep thinking about Kamensky

0:45:160:45:22

and his book, and the date on that.

0:45:220:45:26

"Has he made a mistake?" I keep thinking.

0:45:270:45:31

Where is the journey leading us to?

0:45:310:45:33

What we do know is that Chagall is one of those target artists for fakers.

0:45:330:45:37

I met this guy Tony Tetro who specialises in creating,

0:45:370:45:42

in duping people with Chagalls, was doing it right up till the late '80s.

0:45:420:45:47

So we have entered a very murky area of the art world.

0:45:470:45:52

Back in Philip's gallery,

0:45:570:45:59

we're coming to terms with the results of our scientific tests.

0:45:590:46:02

I've had a more detailed breakdown of Tracy's pigment analysis

0:46:030:46:07

of Martin's painting, and I'm afraid it doesn't look very good.

0:46:070:46:10

Not only is the blue a modern pigment,

0:46:100:46:13

but the green is a modern pigment as well, so out of period

0:46:130:46:15

for the painting, and there's even dodgy pigments in the signature.

0:46:150:46:20

This is getting worse and worse.

0:46:210:46:23

We've hit the buffers on the actual materials used, and it

0:46:230:46:28

looks as though we've got nowhere to go on the provenance as well.

0:46:280:46:31

And neither Debbie Hatchwell nor Alexander Shlepyanov can recall

0:46:310:46:35

the name of the private collector from whom Martin bought the picture

0:46:350:46:38

so the provenance trail is finished.

0:46:380:46:42

What about this book, though?

0:46:420:46:43

Because we know that Martin's painting,

0:46:430:46:45

complete with crease, was in this book by the Soviet art critic

0:46:450:46:48

Alexander Kamensky, and Martin set enormous store by the fact

0:46:480:46:52

that his painting is reproduced in this book.

0:46:520:46:54

That was the key thing.

0:46:540:46:57

I feel bad ruling out all this evidence

0:46:570:46:59

but if you look in this later edition,

0:46:590:47:02

published in 2005...

0:47:020:47:04

So it's not here.

0:47:090:47:11

I'm afraid it's entirely disappeared from the book.

0:47:110:47:14

Which is deeply worrying.

0:47:140:47:17

I've never come across that before, in the edition of one but not the other.

0:47:170:47:21

And why would anyone do that, other than having doubts

0:47:210:47:24

about the painting? Would there be other reasons why you'd take it out?

0:47:240:47:28

I mean, Alexander Kamensky's dead so we can't ask him.

0:47:280:47:31

We're at the point now where it seems we've got very few avenues

0:47:310:47:35

to go down except there's the committee - let's see what they say.

0:47:350:47:39

The Chagall Committee.

0:47:390:47:41

The evidence against Martin's picture is stacking up. His last

0:47:440:47:49

hope is that a mistake has been made in the provenance

0:47:490:47:52

and Chagall actually painted it much later than we thought.

0:47:520:47:57

And the only people who might have some answers

0:47:590:48:02

are the Chagall Committee in Paris,

0:48:020:48:04

led by his two granddaughters, Meret and Bella Meyer.

0:48:040:48:07

They have asked us to submit the painting to them for examination

0:48:090:48:13

and, with Martin's permission, Nude, 1909-10 makes the journey to France.

0:48:130:48:20

But just days after it arrives, we receive a response

0:48:200:48:23

from the Committee, and it's more shocking than we had ever imagined.

0:48:230:48:28

It's vital that we speak to Martin immediately, but he's on holiday in

0:48:330:48:37

a remote corner of Canada, so we'll have to contact him on-line.

0:48:370:48:41

Martin, hi, this is Fiona

0:48:440:48:47

and Philip. I'm sorry to disturb you on holiday. We've had some news,

0:48:470:48:50

it's here in black and white from the Chagall Committee.

0:48:500:48:53

We've only just had a cursory look but we need to give you now

0:48:530:48:57

-the details cos there's some decisions we need to make.

-'OK.'

0:48:570:49:01

Yes, Martin, I've got the letter here from the Chagall Committee.

0:49:010:49:04

Having looked at your work, and they go into details about it, Nude, 1909-1910.

0:49:040:49:11

And they are declaring that your painting is fake. I'm really sorry.

0:49:110:49:18

'It's a shame, absolutely. That's a shock, actually.

0:49:190:49:23

'I wasn't expecting that.

0:49:230:49:24

'We've obviously been fooled same as everyone else but, you know,

0:49:270:49:30

'it's very, very sad.'

0:49:300:49:33

I'm really sorry, Martin. I mean, this is the conclusion they've

0:49:340:49:39

come to and they go into details in this letter which, of course,

0:49:390:49:42

we will share with you, but we've just had this in. I've literally just seen it.

0:49:420:49:46

The Committee state that Martin's picture is an imitation

0:49:460:49:50

of a genuine work done in 1911 called Reclining Nude.

0:49:500:49:54

Their detailed analysis argues how a forger could have copied many of its elements.

0:49:540:50:00

But this new information comes at a terrible price.

0:50:000:50:03

The letter contains some truly devastating news.

0:50:030:50:07

The Committee proposes to invoke an extraordinary measure under

0:50:070:50:11

French law.

0:50:110:50:12

Part of the reason why we wanted to get hold of you

0:50:120:50:15

so urgently is there's a bit of a bombshell at the end of the letter.

0:50:150:50:19

On the basis, they say, that your painting is

0:50:190:50:22

fake in their opinion, "The heirs of Marc Chagall

0:50:220:50:28

"request that it - your painting - be seized and then destroyed."

0:50:280:50:34

'Right, we should talk about that further, in due course.'

0:50:360:50:40

We weren't expecting that.

0:50:400:50:43

'No.'

0:50:430:50:44

Well, Martin, you've heard what they've said.

0:50:440:50:47

There are options out there.

0:50:470:50:50

We need to regroup, we all need to think about it,

0:50:500:50:52

and you particularly,

0:50:520:50:53

where we go from here.

0:50:530:50:55

God, I feel sick about that, actually.

0:50:590:51:01

I mean, poor Martin... I had no idea that that could happen,

0:51:020:51:08

did you?

0:51:080:51:09

I mean, you hear about it. It's one of those

0:51:090:51:11

things you know that it exists in the art world,

0:51:110:51:14

the power of certain individuals, particularly if you're contracted

0:51:140:51:17

to be able to destroy a picture. But the reality is it's so rare.

0:51:170:51:21

I've never known it personally, I don't know any colleagues

0:51:210:51:24

of mine who've encountered this. I mean, the response is so extreme!

0:51:240:51:30

You know, I keep thinking how Martin must be feeling.

0:51:300:51:32

He looked devastated.

0:51:320:51:35

Martin, whether it's fake or not,

0:51:370:51:39

has spent £100,000 on this picture, and they're in a sort of cavalier

0:51:390:51:44

way saying, '"We do not think it's right, we shall therefore

0:51:440:51:49

"destroy the picture that you've just spent so much money on."

0:51:490:51:52

I mean, what sort of system, what sort of justice is that?!

0:51:530:51:56

The outcome is particularly shocking as the Chagall Committee's terms and

0:51:560:52:01

conditions made no specific mention that the picture could be destroyed.

0:52:010:52:05

They have issued Martin with an ultimatum. Either

0:52:050:52:08

he agrees to the destruction or they fight him in the French courts.

0:52:080:52:13

We need some expert advice, so we're meeting Pierre Valentin,

0:52:130:52:17

a lawyer who specialises in art litigation.

0:52:170:52:20

Pierre, in my experience and that of colleagues I've spoken to,

0:52:200:52:24

this has not happened before, so what are the precedents?

0:52:240:52:28

There were a couple of recent instances involving Joan Miro.

0:52:280:52:32

On both occasions, these were two different owners,

0:52:320:52:35

the Miro Committee decided these works were fakes, and they proceeded

0:52:350:52:41

to have these works seized with a view to having them destroyed.

0:52:410:52:45

The owners, as you can imagine, were not amused and they sued,

0:52:450:52:50

but on those two occasions they lost.

0:52:500:52:54

But it's a complete catch 22, isn't it?

0:52:540:52:57

Because if you have a painting that you think might be by Chagall,

0:52:570:53:00

the way to get it authenticated, or not, is by submitting

0:53:000:53:03

it to the Chagall Committee, but then you run risk that they

0:53:030:53:06

might destroy it - it's just an impossible situation there, surely?

0:53:060:53:10

The problem, Fiona, is you don't really have a choice

0:53:100:53:13

because the market will look to the Chagall Committee. They'll tell you

0:53:130:53:20

if it's by Chagall or not, so if the Committee does not agree

0:53:200:53:26

that it's by Chagall, what you have is virtually worthless.

0:53:260:53:31

This power of destruction seems absolutely wrong on every level!

0:53:310:53:36

I mean, they will say, of course, that they have a duty to protect

0:53:360:53:42

to make sure that as few fakes circulate in the market as possible.

0:53:420:53:48

Assuming the Committee are right and

0:53:480:53:50

Martin's painting is a fake, what are his chances of getting it back?

0:53:500:53:55

Almost none. In terms of the Chagall Committee,

0:53:550:53:58

they will go ahead and destroy the painting,

0:53:580:54:00

they have the right to do that, and not to do it would set a precedent

0:54:000:54:04

which from their perspective would be very dangerous,

0:54:040:54:06

so I fully expect that they will destroy it.

0:54:060:54:10

And I think he would be losing his time, wasting his time, going to the French courts.

0:54:100:54:16

I hardly dare ask, but how would they destroy Martin's painting?

0:54:160:54:21

I think they would probably burn it.

0:54:210:54:23

Goodness me.

0:54:250:54:27

When Martin gets back from his holiday, we meet up with him and his son, Fraser,

0:54:310:54:35

to discuss Pierre Valentin's advice, and their options.

0:54:350:54:40

Martin, I was just wondering what's

0:54:440:54:46

happened in the interim between us having that terrible conversation with you on Skype and giving you

0:54:460:54:51

the awful news about your painting. What are your feelings now?

0:54:510:54:56

We've written to the Committee asking them

0:54:560:54:59

if they would please allow us to keep the painting.

0:54:590:55:02

We don't even mind if they mark the back of the painting that

0:55:020:55:05

it's been turned down by the Committee.

0:55:050:55:07

But what we do want, you know, is to keep it as a memento.

0:55:070:55:11

So, worst case scenario, the painting is destroyed,

0:55:110:55:16

you've got nothing left, what next?

0:55:160:55:19

I don't particularly want to bear grudges against committees

0:55:190:55:22

or individuals, that's not my way of doing things.

0:55:220:55:25

I wish to remain positive. I wish to look upon this as an experience.

0:55:250:55:31

I mean, Fraser, what are your feelings towards it now,

0:55:310:55:35

as a piece of art?

0:55:350:55:37

I grew up with the painting on the wall.

0:55:370:55:40

I might not have realised who it was at the time but...

0:55:400:55:43

Do you still like it?

0:55:430:55:45

Oh, yeah, I like it. Now, to me, it has a better story.

0:55:450:55:48

You are remarkably sanguine about a hundred-grand loss...

0:55:480:55:55

Yes, but what would it have been if it had been a success?

0:55:560:56:00

You've got to weigh up. In life, you can't be negative all the time.

0:56:000:56:05

It doesn't pay. Life is too short to be destructive. You want

0:56:050:56:10

to be constructive, you want to say, "We've lost that,

0:56:100:56:14

"let's move on to something else."

0:56:140:56:15

The Chagall Committee won't decide

0:56:160:56:18

on Martin's appeal until their next meeting, so Martin

0:56:180:56:22

has a tense wait ahead of him... but it's time for us to say goodbye.

0:56:220:56:26

This hasn't turned out how any of us would have wanted,

0:56:260:56:29

but I hope it hasn't put you off paintings for life.

0:56:290:56:31

No, not at all. I think we have to be more careful in future!

0:56:310:56:35

So, you'll still buy a picture again?

0:56:350:56:38

Oh, yes, of course.

0:56:380:56:39

I salute your positive attitude!

0:56:390:56:41

It's been so lovely getting to know you and working with you.

0:56:410:56:44

-Thank you.

-All the very best.

0:56:440:56:46

Just before we are due to hear the final verdict from the Chagall Committee,

0:56:490:56:52

we receive a letter from Debbie Hatchwell and Alexander Shlepyanov,

0:56:520:56:56

who arranged the sale of the painting to Martin in 1992.

0:56:560:57:00

They reaffirmed that the painting was sold in good faith

0:57:030:57:06

and in the belief that it was genuine,

0:57:060:57:09

and that Martin understood that the price paid was low, reflecting

0:57:090:57:11

the fact that it had not been verified by the Chagall Committee.

0:57:110:57:15

They say they spoke to Alexander Kamensky about its appearance

0:57:170:57:20

in his book and they name two other Russian art dealers who helped

0:57:200:57:23

to source the painting - information we passed on to the Committee.

0:57:230:57:28

After examining this new information,

0:57:280:57:30

and Martin's appeal for the return of the work, the Chagall Committee

0:57:300:57:33

have reiterated their verdict that the picture is a fake and should be destroyed.

0:57:330:57:37

They also reveal that a member of the Chagall family expressed

0:57:400:57:43

extremely serious doubts about the painting to

0:57:430:57:46

Alexander Kamensky as soon as his book was published,

0:57:460:57:50

which led to it being removed from subsequent editions.

0:57:500:57:53

Martin has chosen not to contest the case in the courts

0:57:530:57:57

but has launched a last-ditch appeal and asked for a full refund

0:57:570:58:02

if it should ever be proven that the picture is in fact genuine.

0:58:020:58:06

He awaits the committee's answer in two days from now.

0:58:060:58:11

This has been the most extreme outcome in four years

0:58:130:58:16

of our Fake Or Fortune investigations.

0:58:160:58:19

Martin and his family have encountered the international

0:58:190:58:22

art world at its most ruthless.

0:58:220:58:24

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