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The art world...where paintings change hands for fortunes. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
Selling at $95 million. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
But for every known masterpiece, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
there may be another still waiting to be discovered. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
That's it. That's it, isn't it? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
That is it. That is our painting. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
International art dealer Philip Mould and I have teamed up | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
to hunt for lost works by great artists. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
We use old-fashioned detective work | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
and state-of-the-art science to get to the truth. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Science can enable us to see beyond the human eye. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Da-dah! Oh, wow! | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
The problem is, not every painting is quite what it seems. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
You successfully faked Lowrys | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
even while you were at school, didn't you? Yes. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
It's a journey that can end in joy... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
Oh! Isn't that great? It's wonderful. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
..or bitter disappointment. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
I can't cope with this roller-coaster. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
What a nightmare. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
In this episode, we're on the trail of a work of art believed to be | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
by arguably the world's most famous sculptor, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Auguste Rodin. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Could the man who created The Kiss and The Thinker | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
also have given us this enchanting sketch of a woman dancing? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
The more time I spend with this drawing, the more I like it. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Our quest to find out the truth about a cherished possession | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
leads to Paris | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
and the little-known story of the sculptor's last great passion. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
I just didn't realise there was so much behind the scenes. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
I'm absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
It's an investigation that plunges us into a forgery scandal | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
that has stunned the art world. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Imagine, fakes at the heart of the French art establishment. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
The latest forensic techniques could help make our case. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
They say that one's stroke is like one's fingerprints. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
But the final decision rests on the opinion of an expert | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
with a keen eye for an impostor. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
What's for sure is that, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
whatever the outcome, this is a very close call. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Of all the requests for help we receive | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
from Fake Or Fortune viewers, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
it's the ones that mention big names that really get our pulses racing, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
like Picasso, Monet or van Gogh. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
And one concerning a particularly captivating picture | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
'by another giant of the art world has caught Philip's eye. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
'So I'm on my way to meet him at the gallery, to find out more.' | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Hi, Philip. What have you got? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
There's one that really intrigues me. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
A drawing by the great sculptor Auguste Rodin. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
When I was a student in Paris, I used to go to the Musee Rodin a lot, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
because I loved being around his sculptures, particularly The Kiss. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
And I would sort of hang around in front of it | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
trying to think French intellectual thoughts. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Did you ever get round to doing any real work at university? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
No, not a lot. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
But this is intriguing, because it's a drawing by Auguste Rodin. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
Have a read of this. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
"When my mother died in 2010, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
"I inherited a watercolour that she always insisted was a Rodin | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
"of a Cambodian dancer, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
"given to her as a thank you when my parents lived in Mexico." | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
Intriguing. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
"Knowing my mother, and her artistic life in Mexico, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
"I believe it to be a genuine Rodin. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
"Can you help?" Now, that's all very interesting, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
but actually it has nothing in there in the way of firm provenance. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
No, but there's a lot to play for, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
because anything by the great sculptor is interesting | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and to get a drawing or watercolour by him, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
that's a prize worth having. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
Born in Paris in 1840, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Auguste Rodin worked as an ornamental craftsman, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
until his genius for sculpture began to be recognised. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
By the 1880s, his daring, unconventional approach | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
established his reputation | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
as the most famous sculptor of the modern era. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
His most influential creations included The Kiss, The Thinker | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
and, in the heart of Westminster, The Burghers Of Calais. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
What defines much of Rodin's sculpture | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
is his extraordinary ability to impart human movement and gesture | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
in a single, dramatic moment. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
And this artistic style characterises his drawings, too. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
He was also a prolific draughtsman, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
making over 10,000 sketches and watercolours, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
including a series of a troupe of dancers from Cambodia, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
who toured Europe at the turn of the 20th century. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Today, these vibrant images of Cambodian dancers | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
are highly prized by collectors and rarely come on the market. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
So, we're eager to find out more | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
about a potentially exciting discovery. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Owner Alice Thoday has offered to bring her picture | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
to the gallery, for examination. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Although she now lives in Lincolnshire, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Alice was born in Mexico, to Belgian parents. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
When we see the drawing in the flesh, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
will it stand up to close scrutiny? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
On first inspection of this, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
I think there are characteristics of the drawing | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
that look rather encouraging. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
She looks like a Cambodian dancer | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
and, if it is by Auguste Rodin, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
we know that he did about 150 drawings of them. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Alice believes her picture was given to her mother, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
while they were living in Mexico in the 1940s. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
So, take us back, then, Alice. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
In the letter you sent us, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
this belonged to your mother and she was given it. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
She was given it when she and my father lived in Mexico. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
My mother had been an artist in Belgium. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
And somebody that worked with my father | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
owned or part-owned a restaurant called, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
my mother thought, La Vie Parisienne. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
And he asked her to paint some scenes of French life on these... | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
I think they were freestanding pillars. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
And this was in a restaurant in Mexico? In Mexico City, yes. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
And so she did that, and as a thank you, he then gave her the Rodin. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Where he got it from, I don't know. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
And what was the name of this chap? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Somebody called Jimmy Heineman. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
I mean, that would be an incredible payment, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
for painting a restaurant. With the greatest respect to your mother, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
who I'm sure was brilliant, but nonetheless, to be given a Rodin. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Yes. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
Since Alice was a child, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
her mother has always taken great care of the drawing. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
It clearly meant a lot to her. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
She said, obviously, with watercolours, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
they're very prone to being damaged by light. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
By sunlight, especially. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
So she always made sure, in the afternoon, when the sun came in, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
the curtains would be drawn, so that it was in the shade. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
I was going to say, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
that's what's quite encouraging about this drawing. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
At first glance, the colours are still there. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
And in the corner of the picture, there's a signature, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
which appears to read "A Rodin". | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
If Alice's picture is genuine, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
then it could be worth a considerable sum. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I mean, I can imagine a lot of collectors | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
wanting to get hold of this. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Really? I mean, it's a very attractive image. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Valuing it now is a little bit difficult, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
but I know something not dissimilar at auction recently | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
made about ?110,000. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Really? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
And what's your intention, if we do prove that it is a Rodin? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Do you want to sell it? I don't know. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
It would almost be nice for it to be appreciated | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
by more than just me and my cats, if you see what I mean! | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
And if we discovered it to be a fake, how would you feel about it? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
I would still love it, because I just think it's beautiful. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
You know, even if it's a fake. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
Whoever did it did a really good job. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Well, we'll give it a go. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
I mean, I think it's an exciting-looking thing. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
I think we've got everything to play for here. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
And with Alice's blessing, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
I'm keen to take a closer look at the picture | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
to get a better feel for its age and its quality. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
The more time I spend with this drawing, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
the more I'm getting to like it. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
I like the way that the artist has managed | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
to capture genuine movement. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
These hoops of thought - | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
it's not just from one angle, it's from another angle. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Although we know Rodin best as a sculptor, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
he was an equally accomplished artist on paper. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Whether he was shaping a model in clay | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
or using a pencil to capture a dancer in mid-flow, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
his intention was the same - | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
to record the essence of movement. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
And we know Rodin said that sculpture is just drawing | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
in all its dimensions. In other words, a three-dimensional drawing. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
So, in order to get a greater feel for this, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
we have to get to the drawing itself. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
The backboard is now... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
is now removed from the main frame and I can take it out, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
and now to get a look for the first time | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
for probably a very long time. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
It's hinged. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
It's certainly got an appearance of age. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
I can easily see this being a century old, possibly more. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
This swiftly executed drawing is made up of only a few lines | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
and a splash of watercolour on paper, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
but replicating it might prove very tempting to a faker. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
If you look at the painted areas, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
particularly at the top of her dress, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
around her cleavage, you can see that the watercolour has separated. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
In that way that it does when you have too much water. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
And it's added a sort of | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
feeling of texture, feeling of character, to the drawing. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
The distinctive use of a deftly confident wash of colour | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
is an encouraging clue. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
But is this from the brush of Rodin? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Or has a forger simply tried to fabricate his technique? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
And to establish whether Alice's picture is genuine, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
we need to call in our specialist researcher on provenance, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
Dr Bendor Grosvenor, to investigate the history of the drawing. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Can he find any evidence that it belongs to the genuine series | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
of Cambodian dancers by Rodin himself? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
It's thought that Rodin made about 150 drawings of Cambodian dancers | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and we know 120 are already in the Musee Rodin in Paris. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
I've had a check in other major museums of the world | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
and found 21 authentic works, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
which potentially leaves fewer than ten in private hands. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
In other words, if Alice's picture really is genuine, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
then it's an extremely rare thing indeed. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Now, early provenance is always extremely useful | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
when we are trying to establish the authenticity of pictures like this, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
so one of the first things we need to do | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
is have a look in the early sale records | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and exhibition history of Rodin's drawings | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and see if we can find anything at all | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
that might be a match for Alice's picture. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
'So I'm going to look in the online records | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
'of some of the leading galleries in Paris, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
'for any sales of Cambodian dancers. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
'And I think I might have spotted a potentially significant lead.' | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
The very first exhibition of Rodin's drawings was in Paris in 1907, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
at the well-established art dealership called Bernheim Jeune. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
And I'm hoping that, for such a major place, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
they would have produced a catalogue, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
so, if they did, we need to find it. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
'Typically, any art sales catalogues | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
'would contain descriptions and images of the pictures. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
'So, it's vital I find one of these catalogues, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
'to see if we can spot Alice's drawing.' | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Rather helpfully, there's a catalogue online here. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Dessins de Rodin, October 1907, Paris, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
chez Monsieur Bernheim Jeune. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Here we go. Right, number eight. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Cambodgienne. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
Number 14, Cambodgienne, number... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Oh, dear, there's 156 drawings listed here, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and I can see dozens and dozens of things just called "Cambodgienne". | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
I'm afraid this is a rather useless list, from our point of view, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
because there's absolutely no description here at all, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
it's not illustrated. In other words, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
there's nothing that we can firmly link to Alice's picture. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
This is a significant setback. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
This means we can't know which, if any, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
of the pictures in the sale are Alice's. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
And it is now extremely difficult to build any kind of paper trail. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
To find out more about the origins of the picture, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
I'm on my way to Lincolnshire, to visit Alice at her home. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
She's offered to show me some of the mementos she has | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
from the time her family spent in Mexico, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
when her mother was given the drawing. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Could there be a fresh lead among the family photos | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and cherished possessions? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
Alice, I want to find out more about your mother, first of all. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
This is her, I see. Yes, this is on their wedding day. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
What a beauty she was. My goodness. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
This was taken in Belgium, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
and that is my mother and her identical twin sister, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
and they both studied art at the Ecole des Beaux-Arts in Brussels. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Alice's mother, Suzanne Daco, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
married her father, Paul Genachte, in 1939. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
They then moved to Mexico City, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
where they joined a vibrant expat community. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
While Paul worked for a local power company, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Suzanne continued her artistic interests. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Is this something she did as a profession, then? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Basically, it was a hobby for her. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
She didn't have a job, as such. She was just an artist. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Is this in Mexico? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
That's when I was born, yes, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
so that's my mother showing me to my sister. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
My sister was four years older. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
And what about the work your mum did? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
This, I'm assuming, is one of hers, is it? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Yes, that's one of hers. This woodcut. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Suzanne Daco. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Yes, D-A-C-O. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Well, she clearly had talent, didn't she? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Yes. Did she exhibit at all, do you know? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
She did do a one-woman show. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
There's an article in this magazine. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
In this? In Hoy. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
"Today" in Spanish. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
One of the top magazines | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
across the whole of the South American continent. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
If you were going to compare it to something now, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
it's not quite Time magazine, but it's not far off. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Yes. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Look at this, there's a whole page on her in here. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
"Exposicion Daco." | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
So, Daco Exhibition. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
This sheds new light on Alice's mother in Mexico. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
She established herself as an artist of high calibre | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and significant reputation. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Could this explain why Jimmy Heineman, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
a colleague of Alice's father, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
would have given her a valuable Rodin drawing, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
in return for her work at the restaurant La Vie Parisienne? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
We've got a number of options, haven't we? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Either Heineman gave it to your mother | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
because he knew she was an artist | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
and she was the kind of woman who would appreciate it. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Yes. Or it's not a genuine Rodin. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Oh, I do think it is. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
And so he just gave it to her as a lovely drawing | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
and the family folklore has become that it's a Rodin. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Whichever of those options it is, the answer is in there somewhere. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Yes. And where we need to look first is at Jimmy Heineman | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
and find out more about him, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
because at the moment, he is the big mystery. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
I've learned something potentially very significant today. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Alice's mother was clearly a much more serious artist | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
than it first appeared. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
She had at least one exhibition - I would assume more than one - | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and was an artist of some renown. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
But who was Jimmy Heineman? I haven't learned much about him. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
And he is the key to unlocking this mystery. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Encouraged by what I've discovered at Alice's house, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
I'm heading back, to catch up with Bendor and Philip, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
who thinks he's discovered some significant stylistic similarities | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
between Alice's drawing and one of Rodin's most famous works. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
The more I think about it, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
there's a real chance that we can connect Alice's drawing to Rodin, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
to the great artist himself. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
And it may not be obvious, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
but I can see a real link between Alice's drawing, a watercolour, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
and one of the great works by Rodin, The Thinker. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
You see, they both have that single idea of crystallising a gesture | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
in an original and dynamic way, in order to say more about the subject, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
about the happening. In the case of the drawing, it's about dance, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
it's about whirling movement. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
In the case of The Thinker, of course, it's about contemplation. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
It's about thought. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
The thing that's worried me from the beginning, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
I have to admit, is the idea that | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Alice's mother would be given a genuine Rodin | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
as a casual gift, in return for, you know, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
doing a bit of painting in a restaurant. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
It doesn't feel quite right to me. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
We have to be careful with Rodin, because he was massively faked, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
not just his drawings, but his sculptures, as well. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
Rodin's drawings were faked almost as soon as he was dead. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
Here's one which is by Odilon Roche, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
who was a contemporary of Rodin's and an amateur artist. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
And he was getting fake Rodin drawings | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
into really quite well-respected exhibitions | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
just months after Rodin died. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Roche's drawings were stamped with a little gallery stamp, OR, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
at the bottom right-hand corner. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
And actually, for years afterwards, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
that stamp was taken as a sign of authenticity, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
even though they were on fake drawings. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Although one of the earliest-known fakers of Rodin's work, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Odilon Roche concentrated on forging a different aspect | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
of the French artist's output. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
His studies of nudes. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
So, I believe, as far as Alice's picture is concerned, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
we can rule out Roche as a suspect. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
But we need to be very wary of other fakers who specialised in drawings | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
of the Cambodian dancers. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
I mean, it just shows what paramount importance it is to actually get | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
a provenance for this, to link this drawing, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
to link Alice's mother, back to Rodin. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Well, key also is finding out who was Jimmy Heineman? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
The man who, as far as Alice is concerned, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
gave the drawing to her mother. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
And I came across this photograph of Jimmy Heineman. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
There he is with his wife in the 1940s, in Mexico. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
So, it places him certainly, at least, in the right country. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
And he was a very successful | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
and very influential businessman in Mexico City. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
So, is he the kind of man who could have afforded a Rodin? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
I would say yes. And I've done a bit of work, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
trying to find out more about the restaurant, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
La Vie Parisienne, and of all things, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I've found a reference to it in a novel by Jack Kerouac, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
the famous beat author. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
And he writes, "La Vie Parisienne, I picture it, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
"a restaurant in Mexico City. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
"I go in, order a good white Bordeaux and a filet mignon. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
"For dessert, pastries and strong coffee and a cigar." | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Lovely. Well, I think I can very conveniently confirm the restaurant | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
did a good line in steaks, because I've got a menu here. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Wow! Have a look at that, see if anything grabs your fancy. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
I like the artistic front cover. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:42 | |
And in fact, it seems that this was quite an artistic restaurant, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
because we've got an advert here from an exhibition they put on | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
of the leading Mexican artist Maria Izquierdo. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
It's a very romantic thought, isn't it? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
This bubble of artistic chic in Mexico. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
And could it be that, in that milieu, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
this drawing passed from one pair of hands to another? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
To gather vital information for the investigation, we've come to Paris, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
where there is a museum dedicated entirely to Auguste Rodin. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Could Alice's picture be part of one of his most | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
remarkable sequences of work? It was here in Paris, in 1906, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
that Rodin first encountered the Cambodian dancers. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
They travelled to the French capital with their king, Sisowath. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
This was a celebrated royal visit, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
an historic cultural event, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
and commemorated ties between the two countries. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
Could Alice's pictures show one of the magical dancers | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
that captured Rodin's imagination? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
To find out more, I've arranged to meet Veronique Mattiussi, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
archivist at the Musee Rodin. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Let's look at these pictures here. This is from a magazine of the time. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
And this is Rodin, drawing the dancers here. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
On 10 July 1906, Rodin went to the Pre Catelan Theatre, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
where he watched the dancers perform live for the first time. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
The very next day, he began drawing them. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Was he drawing them as they were dancing, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
or did he ask them to stop and pose? Ah, non. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
Rodin's fascination with the Cambodian dancers | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
has been dubbed his final passion, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
just a decade before the French master died. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
He was interviewed a lot in the papers, so this is from Le Figaro. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
This is 1906. This is at the time. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
"So, for me, I feel that by looking at them, my vision has expanded, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
"I look higher and further and, finally, I have learned." | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
When the dancers went to perform in Marseille, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Rodin was in such a rush to follow them | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
that he forgot his drawing paper. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
This could be an intriguing lead, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
so I'm keen to find out exactly what type of paper | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
was used for Alice's picture. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
So this frantic concentration of activity | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
to produce 150 sketches and drawings was probably in two cities. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
And he must have just drawn and drawn and drawn | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
and, of course, so quickly. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
What we've got is evidence of the impact of the Cambodian dancers | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
on Rodin in his twilight years. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
I mean, there was a thunderbolt, but nonetheless, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
it created this lasting emotion in him. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
He'd never seen anything like these dancers before. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
And he suddenly felt this was something new for him, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
something new that he could learn, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
and produce this incredibly intense bout of activity. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
It's clear to me now that Rodin was mesmerised by the Cambodian dancers | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
and that's why he produced so many drawings in such a short time. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Meanwhile, I have a rare opportunity to take a closer look | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
at a prized collection of genuine Rodin sketches of Cambodian dancers, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
with curator Sophie Biass-Fabiani. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Can I spot any stylistic clues | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
that could help prove that Alice's picture | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
was created by the same hand? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
What do you think of Rodin's Cambodian works? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
All the Cambodian are outstanding. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
This is a special, divine moment, I would say. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
He's gifted, and he's using it and... | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
it's just a pleasure to see it. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
One of the things I notice, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
and it reminds me of the drawing we're researching, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
is these very diluted watercolours. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
They're almost like blots, aren't they, rather than strokes? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Yes, and he's using it to have accidents in some way. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
He's trying to cause accidents. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
I mean, this is what's so fascinating | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
about this whole process, these drawings. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Here you have too much water. That's using the accident. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
He's just doing the same thing in sculpture, also. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
This is really encouraging. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Sophie has confirmed that this particular use of watercolour, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
which I'd spotted on Alice's drawing, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
is, in fact, a recognised technique of Rodin's. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
But because these pictures are so simply constructed, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
with only a few strokes of paint and pencil, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
we need to be sure we fully understand his overall style. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
What are the characteristics of these Cambodian dancers? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
Well, it's a lightness, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
making figures completely floating, without gravity. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
That's really what dance is about, you know, defying gravity, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and he's defying gravity in his drawing. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
And you can see that there's no ground. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
He's not interested in the details. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
The faces are always very simply done. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:19 | |
Here, you don't even have a nose or the eyes, you know. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
And one of the other characteristics is the slightly contorted way | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
in which the hands are expressed | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and these rather attenuated, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
elongated arms. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Well, that's what I guess caught him, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
interested him. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
This way of being round, whatever happens. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
It is a little exaggerated, maybe. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
I'm encouraged by what I've seen of these Cambodian dancers | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
and what I've learned about Rodin's distinctive way | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
of using watercolour. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
If Alice's picture isn't genuine, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
then we would have to be dealing with | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
an exceptionally skilful forger. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Meanwhile, Bendor is finding the provenance trail | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
particularly difficult. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
There's no sign of the picture in any art sales in Europe, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
so if the drawing was given to Alice's mother by Jimmy Heineman | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
sometime in the 1940s, just when and where did he buy it? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
Alice has told us her mother was given this drawing | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
by someone called Jimmy Heineman, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
so the question is | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
whether we can link Heineman to any Rodin sales or exhibitions | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
in the first half of the 20th century. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
By the outbreak of the Second World War, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Jimmy Heineman's family had properties and businesses | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
on the east coast of the United States. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
So, I'm going to see if there's any record of a Heineman | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
buying Alice's picture at a sale there, in this timeframe. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
There's a series of exhibitions and sales | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
on the East Coast of the United States in the 1930s. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
There's a notice in the Washington Post. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
"Collection of Rodin drawings has been loaned | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
"by the distinguished sculptor Professor Ernest Durig, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
"Rodin's last pupil," | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
"to whom the drawings were given in 1911, as a token of friendship. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
"Professor Durig will be present at the exhibition, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
"and will explain the artistic value of the collection." | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
There's a reference here, in the New Yorker magazine, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
to another exhibition of Rodin drawings. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
In fact, they're also from Professor Ernest Durig. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
That's in 1937. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Four of those drawings are sold at auction in 1937 in New York. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
This could be an important new lead for the investigation. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
Ernest Durig claimed to have been a pupil of Rodin's | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
and was selling his works in the States. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
So, could Alice's drawing have been bought from Durig | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
at one of these sales? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Back in Paris, I've arranged a surprise for Alice. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
We're watching a traditional Cambodian dancer in a tiny theatre, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
to see if we can find any evidence that Alice's picture was drawn | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
directly from a live performance. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
We've been in touch with the prestigious Royal Cambodian Ballet, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
a celebrated group that still performs | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
this centuries-old tradition today. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
And their top dancer has agreed to put on a special display for us. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:31 | |
Her hands. It does. And the feet. And the feet. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
By watching her dance, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
can Alice and I identify whether her picture resembles the elegant moves | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
that inspired the artist? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
THEY APPLAUD | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Watching you, the thing we were so drawn to | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
was the movement of your hands, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
especially because you bend your hands, my goodness, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
I can't believe how you do that. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
What we were thinking is, if this is a genuine Rodin, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
we would hope that the movement | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
bears a strong resemblance to a dance, to reality. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Do you look at that and think, "Yes, I recognise that"? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Yes, I recognise. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
We can see that's a classical dance. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
If you were going to recreate this pose here, the top half anyway, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
what would that look like? It would look like this. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Brilliant bit of foreshortening. Head just slightly tilted. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
This would have been done so quickly. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Yes. If you think about it. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:35 | |
You're dancing, Rodin is drawing. I mean, this is a matter of seconds. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
And I suppose by the time he's finished putting pencil on paper, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
the dance will have changed. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
So perhaps he's combining several movements. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Does this position... does it have a name? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
We tell, "Khbat". | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
Khbat. Khbat. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
And how many different positions are there? | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
There are lots. I don't remember exactly, but maybe more than 2,000. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:06 | |
Really? Yes. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
I mean, this Khbat, as you call it, does it have a meaning? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Yes, some Khbat have meaning. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Like this is... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
smile. How lovely. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
It's just... It's so graceful. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
It's so elegant to see you do that. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
I mean, I'm encouraged. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
And certainly having seen you dance and seeing this, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
it just makes us realise so much what Rodin, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
if this is indeed by Rodin... Why he was so enthralled. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Why he was so enthralled and what he was seeing. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
This is really encouraging. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
The dancer believes the hands in Alice's picture | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
do indeed match the traditional Cambodian dance, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
which she's studied all her life. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Meanwhile, Bendor has been attempting to find evidence | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
that Jimmy Heineman, who gave Alice's mother her drawing, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
bought pictures at art sales in the States. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
And he's made a surprising discovery about the man | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
who hosted some of them. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
I've been trying to make a link between Jimmy Heineman | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
and these exhibitions of Rodin drawings | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
on the east coast of the United States in the 1930s. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
I'm afraid I can't, because no catalogue was published. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
However, I have found out a few rather alarming things | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
about the host of those sales. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
It turns out he was, basically, a bit of a fantasist. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
Born Ernst Durig, in Switzerland in 1894, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
Durig was an aspiring sculptor and, throughout his life, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
he claimed to have been Rodin's last-ever student. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
But we can find no evidence to back this up. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
And I've discovered that Durig would frequently show this photograph | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
of him and Rodin together as proof of their friendship. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Taken in Rome in 1915, it's the only record of the two men ever meeting. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
Durig, perhaps trading on that claim, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
secured some important portrait commissions. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
I've got here, for example, a rather nice photo of him | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
standing next to his bust of the then-President, Harry S Truman. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Durig was a well-regarded sculptor in his own right. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
But after his death in 1962, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
it was found he had also been | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
a highly accomplished, and prolific, forger. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
After he died, they discovered a cache of fake Rodin drawings, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:27 | |
including a large number of Cambodian dancers. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
This is obviously extremely alarming | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
and I think the first thing we have to do | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
is go and see some of these Durig fakes | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
and see if they bear any resemblance to Alice's picture. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
This is a worrying development. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Ernst Durig duped many in the art world. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Could he also be responsible for Alice's picture? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
But I'm still on the trail of Jimmy Heineman, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
the man who gave the picture to Alice's mother. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
I've made contact with one of his relatives, his daughter, Marilyn, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
in New York. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
'Can I find any evidence that he was a serious art collector, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
'the type of man who would have bought a genuine Rodin?' | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
I wanted to hear more about your father, Marilyn. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Was he a collector of any kind? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
Yes, we had quite a bit of art in the apartment, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
in the house where I was a child growing up, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
but I can't say for certain who the artists were. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
There was rather an eclectic mix. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
He owned what my parents used to refer to as a fake Bruegel, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
because it wasn't really, but it looked very Bruegel-ish. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
And he at one point... There were, um, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
monkeys who were painting pictures at the Central Park Zoo, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
and so my father owned some monkey art. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Hang on a minute! | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
So he owned a fake Bruegel, I'm not massively encouraged by that, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I've got to be honest. And then he owned monkey art? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
Yes. Monkey art. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
And then, he might have owned a Rodin. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
It's a pretty eclectic mixture, if he did. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Yes, I'm quite sure he was very eclectic in his tastes. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
'This doesn't sound too promising. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
'But I wonder if Marilyn has any evidence which connects her father | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
'directly to Alice's family.' | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
After you all contacted me, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
I went into a cabinet and found an old photo album of my father's. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
There were photographs taken of friends in Mexico City, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
and one of them was my father and Paul, so... | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Oh, Alice's father. Yes. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
So this is the first visual evidence | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
that connects Jimmy Heineman to Alice's family. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
And here he is with her father, Paul Genachte, in Mexico. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Well, that was interesting. That was very interesting. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Marilyn has confirmed certain things for us, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
which has been really useful, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
so her dad, Jimmy, was in Mexico City at the right time, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
he did know Alice's father. There's a photograph of them together. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
When it comes to his art collection, that's not quite so promising. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:03 | |
I mean, I'm wondering if, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
as well as his fake Bruegel, did he have a fake Rodin | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
and that's what he gave to Alice's mum? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Meanwhile, back in Paris, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
I'm taking Alice's picture for some forensic analysis. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
Having spent 25 years restoring Rodin's drawings, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
can conservator Claude Laroque identify any clues from the paper | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
which could prove that the drawing is genuine? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
When you look at Rodin drawings, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
how do you analyse a piece of paper like this? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
First of all, you have to look | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
if it's a machine-made paper or handmade paper. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
So, for example, this paper is a machine-made paper. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
How can you tell that? How it looks like. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
In the second part of the 19th century and in the 20th century, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
most of the paper is machine-made. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
And Claude has confirmed that Alice's drawing | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
was produced on machine-made paper, too. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
But is there anything distinctive that could link it to Rodin himself? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
Sometimes, do you get watermarks on Rodin watercolours? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
Yes, yes. Some imprint of the papermaker. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
A watermark is an indication from the manufacturer. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
Unfortunately on this paper, we don't have anything. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
That's frustrating. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
With no watermark, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
there's no way of proving exactly where this paper came from. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
It seems that, for once, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
forensic science can't help us in this investigation. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
But can Claude, from her years of experience, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
spot anything that would suggest Alice's drawing is a fake? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
As far as the research we've done, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:50 | |
I can't find anything specifically about this drawing | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
that we would not expect to find in a Rodin drawing. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
No. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
Well, sometimes I have seen some fakes. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Well, just look at it and say, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
"No, it's absolutely not from Rodin's hands." | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
But some fakes can be done in a very good way. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
I was hoping that, with the help of Claude, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
we could find some clues in Alice's drawing | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
that could link us firmly to the great master. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
But it seems that we can't. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Although she did leave us with an interesting thought. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
If it is a fake, it's a good one. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
I'm worried that the lack of any solid forensic evidence | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
for Alice's picture | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
makes it harder to prove it's a genuine work and not a clever fake. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
And what's worse, I've received a worrying tip-off | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
about a forgery scandal | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
which has recently shaken the French art world. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
In 2014, France's premier national art gallery, the Musee d'Orsay, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
invited a leading expert to study their collection of Rodin drawings. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
And she concluded that many were fakes. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
You can't really overstate the impact of this discovery. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
Imagine, fakes at the heart of the French art establishment. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:22 | |
Not just anywhere, but in there, in the Musee d'Orsay, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
one of the best-known museums, not just in France, but in the world. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
Imagine what they felt when they read this document, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
which I've managed to get hold of. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
This is what lifted the lid on the scandal | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
and the Musee d'Orsay has given me three fakes from their collection. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
I'm going to break the news to Alice, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
show her the fakes and see if they bear any resemblance to her drawing. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
The forgeries duped experts for generations. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
And a number of the fakers have been identified. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
What's particularly concerning is that one of the known culprits | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
is Ernst Durig, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
the man Bendor discovered selling Rodin fakes in America | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
before Alice's mother was given her picture. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
How does Alice's drawing compare to his forgeries? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
So, here we have the rogues' gallery. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Let's start with this one. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Now this is a work by the man who claimed to be | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
Rodin's last pupil, Ernest Durig. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
And he has done a copy here of a Cambodian dancer. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
He was producing these drawings primarily in the 1920s, 1930s. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
This picture by Ernst Durig | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
is the first fake Cambodian dancer we've discovered. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And it's alarming that it lay undetected in the Musee d'Orsay | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
until so recently. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
So, what do you think, in terms of making a comparison between the two? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
That seems much more static, much more contrived. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
But they took that as being genuine. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
This was thought to be genuine. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
Durig copied Rodin's drawings across the spectrum, if you like. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
These were all in the Musee d'Orsay | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and, until 2014, they were thought to be genuine. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
The art establishment has known about Durig | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
since he was first exposed in the 1960s. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
But no-one imagined his fakes would still be conning people today. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
So now, when you look at your drawing, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
and you realise the extent of the fakery, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
and also how recently this has come to light... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
If I had come with my drawing a year ago, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
I'd have been very different. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
You could have snuck it in under the wire. Snuck it in! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
"Hello! Here's my genuine Rodin." | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I was utterly amazed, I didn't realise he was so faked | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
and that there was such a story behind the Rodin watercolours, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
the works of art. And it's just like, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
where do you start to separate what's true | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
from what's not true, what's a fake? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
I just didn't realise there was so much behind the scenes. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
I'm absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
The emergence of Ernst Durig, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
whose forgeries duped the Musee d'Orsay for so long, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
is a major concern for Alice. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
The drawing her mother cherished for so many years, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
could it be a Durig fake? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Meanwhile, I've come to New York, for the annual Old Master sales, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and, while I'm in town on business, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
I want to follow up a new lead on the forger, Ernst Durig. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
At the prestigious Museum of Modern Art, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
there are over 150 drawings by Durig. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
These were donated to this respected institution after he died, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
and this collection contains several images of fake Cambodian dancers. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:53 | |
This is the most important series of Durig works in existence. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
And if Alice's picture is by Durig, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
then we really need to compare it to this cache of fakes at MoMA. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:08 | |
We've been negotiating with the museum, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
trying to get access to that unique file of information | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
that proves that Durig was a faker of Rodin | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
and also of his Cambodian drawings. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Now, if we CAN get access to that, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
we may be able to prove what Alice's drawing is. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Is it a work by the faker? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
In which case, it's worth, I don't know, a couple of hundred pounds. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
But could we, though, prove it was by Rodin? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
?100,000. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
But after several discussions, MoMA turned our approaches down. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
They said they would be happy to talk about Rodin, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
but not about Durig. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
MoMA's refusal to let us study their Durig collection is a setback. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
But there's one final piece of evidence we can investigate. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Back in London, Alice and I are taking her picture | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
to the country's leading signature analyst. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Adam Brand is often called as an expert witness in court cases, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
to assess whether a document has been faked. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Can he identify whether it was the French master himself | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
who signed Alice's drawing? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
He's been studying Rodin's genuine signature | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
on some of his authentic pictures. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
Adam, tell us what we're looking at here. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
You're trying to find unique peculiarities that, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
in combination, are likely to be only found with one author. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
The key thing about Rodin is the fact his writing is very connected | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
and the beginning tends to taper in. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Then it goes to a covering stroke there. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
Do you see the fact he could've stopped there? | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
Well, he doesn't. And it pushes down into the lower zone. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
He starts his R with an up stroke, rather than a down stroke. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
He has a slight loop in the O. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
He opens up his D, he gives a loop here. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
And it's very connected. And the finish is clear. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
And then he has an underlining paraph. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
So can Adam spot any of these distinct characteristics | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
in the signature on Alice's picture? | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
The beginnings of signatures, and the ends of signatures, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
are very important. Now, you're not getting that smooth entry, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
you're getting a nick. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
And you get to this O. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
The difficulty with this O is the fact it doesn't give you a loop. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
It hasn't got the clarity that you get from Rodin, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
which is going round like that | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
and the little open top going off to that direction. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
It's very odd. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
And this, what worries me about this, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
is that the D has totally disappeared. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
But at the end, you have an issue here. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
What you've got is quite a weak finish. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
Most of Rodin's known signatures have quite a strong finish. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
They finish with a certain amount of definiteness. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
With gusto. With gusto. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:01 | |
Interestingly, this signature is not weak all the way through, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
because then suddenly you get a finishing paraph, this underlining, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
which, again, becomes very strong. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
So one can't say, "Oh, well, he was feeling tired," | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
because suddenly he picks up the energy again. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
Now, that energy should be in there - and it isn't. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
On your assessment, Adam, could that signature be by Rodin? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:24 | |
I would be slightly doubtful that it is a Rodin signature, I'm sorry. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:30 | |
No. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:31 | |
Interesting. Are you ever wrong? Yeah. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
Could you be? Yeah. Oh, am...? Am I ever wrong? Yes. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
With Adam doubting the authenticity of the signature on Alice's drawing, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
it's now time to regroup and catch up with Bendor, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
who has some news on the forger, Ernst Durig. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
I've been having another look into Ernst Durig's life | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
and I found some newspaper reports and photographs | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
that shed some more light on his rather eccentric career. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
Here he is on the left at the White House, next to Herbert Hoover, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
and they're unveiling this really rather extraordinary | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
giant bust of George Washington. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
I mean, that is a monster. Nasty thing. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
Quite how Durig ever thought he could get away with his claim | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
he was a pupil of Rodin's and then make sculptures quite that bad, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
I don't know. He was evicted from his home rather brutally, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
which is rather tragic. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:26 | |
Eventually, he ended up, rather sadly, in an asylum. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
He died in 1962. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
But it was only after his death that he was revealed to be | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
a prolific forger of Rodin's drawings. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Talking of forgers, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
I was a bit disheartened with the signature analysis we did | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
of Alice's picture. So I rang the Musee Rodin, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
to see what else I could find to try and bolster our case | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
and they told me, when he gave drawings to his friends, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
he didn't generally bother to sign them. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
If they wanted them signed, and asked him to do so, he would say, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
you know, he couldn't be bothered, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
and get them to copy a signature themselves. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
So, we're left with a situation, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
which I can hardly bear to contemplate, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
where you might have a genuine Rodin and a fake signature. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
With this news about Rodin's signatures, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
how do Durig's fake Cambodian dancers compare, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
when held up against Alice's picture? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Obviously, there is so much to play for here, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
but I've managed to dig out from Baltimore Museum Of Art two fakes, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
two proper fakes, established works by Durig. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
And I think it's fascinating, when you look at these | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and you keep Alice's drawing in mind, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
there's a sort of boneless, flaccid quality in the way they're done. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
I mean, look at that arm there on the left, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
with those sort of banana leaf-like fingers. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
There's a sort of lack of anatomical authority. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
And look at the woman on the right. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
Look at the characterisation. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
She's overly sexualised. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
She doesn't look like a Cambodian dancer. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
And then, when you put both of them next to Alice's drawing, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
I don't know what you feel, but there's a dynamism. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
When Alice's drawing popped up in between those two there, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
it felt immediately like someone had turned the music on, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
because that feels to me more convincingly | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
like someone who is actually doing a dance, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
whereas the two Durigs on the left and right feel terribly forced, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
composed like little sort of stiff mannequins | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
that someone has tried to bring to life, but failed. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
Philip and Bendor | 0:48:20 | 0:48:21 | |
don't think Alice's picture looks like a Durig forgery. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
But having exhausted the scientific and provenance research, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
there's only one course of action left. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
There is no other way to judge this picture now, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
other than stylistically. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
And there's one woman who has spent more time | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
studying Rodin drawings than anybody else. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
But not only those. The fakes, as well. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
The dark, as well as the light. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
We need her to examine Alice's picture and give us her views. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
It was Christina Buley who uncovered the recent | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
fake scandal at the Musee d'Orsay | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
and it's her verdict that the art market will look to. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
It's vital she studies Alice's picture, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
to determine if, indeed, it is a genuine and undiscovered work | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
by Rodin. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
She could be our last hope in cracking this case. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Before she examines the picture in the flesh, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
can she tell us what clues will sway her decision? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
Usually when we get to this stage, where we have someone like you | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
look at the drawing, we would have built a strong case for | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
our painting or drawing with the provenance | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
and we just haven't been able to do it with this one. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
So, it all comes down to you | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
and your stylistic assessment of the drawing. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
How confident can you be that you'll be right? | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
There are more than 7,000 drawings and I have had the chance to study | 0:49:49 | 0:49:55 | |
those drawings for nine years, when I was working at the Musee Rodin. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
And I have come across many, many fakes. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
So, when you are trying to determine | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
whether a Rodin drawing is authentic, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
what sort of traits, what sort of characteristics are you looking for? | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
Well, you're looking for a very fluid line. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
From the top to the bottom. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
And even, in the Cambodian series, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
you would find the "ligne du nu", as Rodin would say. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
The line of the nude, yeah. The line of the nude through the costume. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:29 | |
This is encouraging. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
But has Christina spotted any of these distinctive traits | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
in Alice's picture? | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
Christina, I know you've not seen the drawing in the flesh, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
but you've seen some images of it. What are your first impressions? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Well, I would say there are some very good elements in this drawing, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
for example the costume, the watercolour, the monochrome. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
That is very typical of Rodin. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
And the simplification and also the black crayon on the costume. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:59 | |
That is quite Rodin-esque. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
Is there anything that struck you in these images that you thought, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
"Hmm, not so sure"? Well, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
I find that the general aspect of the Cambodian dancer is a bit clumsy | 0:51:06 | 0:51:13 | |
and, in many fakes, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
the feet and the arms and the head | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
seem to be combined around a general body and the costume. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:26 | |
Now, for the first time, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Christina will carefully study the original picture itself. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
It's hard to know which way Christina is going to go. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
But, for Alice, it's hugely important | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
that this drawing is genuine. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
It's such an important part of her family history. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Her mother painstakingly and carefully looked after this picture | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
for years. Alice knows all about that. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
And so, if the drawing isn't genuine, it means that | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
that was all for nothing | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
and that story doesn't really have any meaning any more. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
And I think that would be really disappointing. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
Christina has got a really tricky job. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
There's no science to fall back upon. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
There's no provenance either. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
She's just got to use one thing and one thing only - her eye. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
What's for sure is that, whatever the outcome, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
this is a very close call. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
To make her decision, Christina needs to return to France, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
to compare her notes on Alice's picture | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
with her previous investigations into Rodin's Cambodian dancers. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
Four weeks later, Christina sends a letter to the gallery, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
so we've called Alice back to hear the official verdict on her picture. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
Hi, Alice. Hello, Alice. Hello. Are you ready for this? | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
Yes. As ready as I'll ever be. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
We've received a letter from Christina Buley, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
who is the world authority on Rodin drawings and who's looked at yours. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
And her verdict is in this envelope. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
How exciting. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
And, Alice, it's... | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
it's really worth considering what we could be dealing with here, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
if your drawing is proved to be right. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
It would be a very important addition | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
to the known body of works by Rodin on paper. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
And, should it be proved conclusively right | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
to the satisfaction of the art world, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
we could be talking about ?100,000. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
Shall I open it? Please do. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
OK. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
Let's see what she has to say. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
It starts... "After thoroughly studying the graphite | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
"and watercolour drawing of a Cambodian dancer | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
"you presented today, I am sorry to inform you... | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
"I do not recognise the hand of Auguste Rodin." | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
Oh, my goodness. Sorry, Alice. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
No, that's fair enough. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
We... | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
As you know, it came down to the stylistic analysis of it. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
Yes, yeah. And she clearly doesn't feel that it is by him. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
Could it be...? Well, I suppose, then, it must be a fake. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
Christina does believe she can identify the artist | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
responsible for Alice's picture. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
She does say who she thinks it is by. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
A renowned faker of Rodin's drawings - | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
Ernst Durig. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:42 | |
The man who claimed to be Rodin's last pupil | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
and who fooled the art world for decades. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
I have to say, I am surprised by the assertion that it is Durig. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
It still strikes me as too good, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:54 | |
too confident, to be by someone who was faking, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
someone who didn't really feel that they were naturally doing | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
a depiction of a Cambodian dancer. I still really like it. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
Well, the only thing I would say is | 0:55:04 | 0:55:05 | |
Christina has made it her life's work | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
studying all of Rodin's drawings and the fakes by Durig. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
And she goes into some detail about why she thinks it isn't by Rodin. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
And she feels that it has more of the distinctive... | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
what she calls the distinctive stylistic marks of Durig | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
and far fewer of those of Rodin. How interesting. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:26 | |
This is closure, in art world terms, I am afraid. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
She is the person we go to. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
Therefore, we have to live by her verdict. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
So, the official verdict is the picture is by Durig. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
This means that Jimmy Heineman bought a clever forgery, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
which he would later give to Alice's mother. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
I'm sure it was given to my mother in good faith, but the... | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
It could well have been, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:49 | |
because Durig was not outed as a faker at that time. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
Yeah. So, Jimmy Heineman could have thought that | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
this was a genuine Rodin. Yeah. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
I shall look at it slightly differently from now on. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
But treasure it nonetheless, I hope. Oh, yes. And thank you so much. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
It's just... I did want to know, so now I know. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
Well, I'm sorry it wasn't the verdict we all would have wanted. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
That's all right. It was never for the money. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
It was just to find out... | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
where it came from. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
It will still go on my wall, though. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:17 | |
Sometimes, regrettably, on Fake Or Fortune, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
we have to overturn, rather than prove, family legends. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
And with Alice's picture, the faker, Ernst Durig, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
had us guessing till the last minute. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
Well, I think Alice took that very well, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
with her typical generosity of spirit. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
And I hope it's of some comfort to her that we have, at least, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
shed a light on an area of Rodin's work that is less known - | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
his drawings and, in particular, his drawings of Cambodian dancers. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
It's just unfortunate that they have been so hugely faked and those fakes | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
have worked their way all around the world, even as far as Mexico City. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
And, of course, it's a reminder, isn't it, how, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
when one is dealing with a great international artist, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
when the stakes are really high, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
how quickly the world of fakery can follow? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
And then when you're dealing with a really great faker, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
someone who has studied their subject from the inside, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
how soon the waters can then become muddied. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
And how truth and deception can then be so difficult to tell apart. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
If you think you have an undiscovered masterpiece, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
we'd love to hear from you, at... | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 |