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At 42 million... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
The art world, where paintings change hands for fortunes. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Sold, thank you very much. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
But for every known masterpiece, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
there may be another still waiting to be discovered. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
This is it. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
International art dealer Philip Mould and I have teamed up | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
to hunt for lost works by great artists. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
We use old-fashioned detective work and state-of-the-art science | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
to get to the truth. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
Science can enable us to see beyond the human eye. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
-Ta-da! -Oh, wow! | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Every case is packed with surprise and intrigue... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
Is it or isn't it a Freud, then? | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
..but not every painting is quite what it seems. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
It's a journey that can end in joy... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
This is definitely by Paul Delaroche. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
..or bitter disappointment. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
I can't cope with this roller-coaster. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
What a nightmare! | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
In this episode, for the first time, we travel to Australia | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
where we're on the trail of a painting believed to be by | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
one of the country's most famous artists, Tom Roberts. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
Could the man responsible for these iconic works of life in the outback | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
also have given us this intriguing picture of a dejected artist? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
It's a story that's been put into paint. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
The stakes are high for the owners, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
who are recovering from a dramatic change in their own circumstances. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
I feel so responsible for our position. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
It's a quest that delves into the artist's close links to Britain. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
Could forensic tests provide crucial new evidence? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
Wow! That is our first link between Roberts and the painting. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
But Australia's top artist is also one of the most faked. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
The strokes in the sky, you know, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
particularly those flat-edged areas, looks a bit like yours. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
This is terrifying. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
It's a journey that could prove life-changing. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
In this envelope here we have the destiny of your picture. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-Are you ready for it? -Yeah. -Mm-hmm. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
We're often contacted by viewers from abroad | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
who think they've discovered a lost masterpiece. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
And very occasionally, one is promising enough for us | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
to bring the picture to the UK for a closer look. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
One such special delivery has travelled over 9,000 miles from Australia. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
It never fails to excite me when a picture comes. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
That sense of anticipation is, | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
it's one of the fun things about being an art dealer. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
And however much information you have before you see a painting, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
it's seeing it in the flesh that does it. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
It's the moment when either your fantasies come crashing | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
to the ground or new hopes and ambitions start arising. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
On first impressions, this looks like | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
one of those intriguingly evocative 19th-century paintings | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
and it's titled Rejected. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
This is exactly the sort of picture with which I'm familiar. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
It's a Victorian genre painting. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
This is a picture of the type you get a lot in the 19th century, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
that tells a story. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
So this is an artist, it appears, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
it's in a studio, you've got all the props. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
In the bottom right-hand corner is an easel. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
There he is, looking at something that's been rejected - | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
presumably his own work of art. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
That clearly is a painting that for some reason | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
has failed to get into an exhibition. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
They've thought about it and told him, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"Sorry, mate, you're not good enough, we don't like it." | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Then you've got that really poignant way that his wife is looking up, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
only just one eye, you can only just make it out, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
with a look of sympathy and empathy. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Feels to me like a proper painting, it feels to me high-quality, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
ambitious, and what's also very clear, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
is that this picture is signed - Tom Roberts, it says. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
Could it be that this is a work by THE Tom Roberts, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
a British-born painter who is now considered | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
one of the greatest artists to have worked in Australia? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Born in Dorset in 1856, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Roberts emigrated down under with his family in 1869. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
By the start of the 20th century, his ambitious depictions of | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
working life in the outback led to him being dubbed | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
the father of Australian Impressionism. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
He was also an accomplished painter of interior scenes, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
such as this picture, The Sculptor's Studio. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
Today, his works take pride of place in Australia's museums | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
and they are highly sought by collectors. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
And this engaging scene could be worth as much as £200,000. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
There's therefore a lot to gain if one can attach | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
with absolute certainty that clear name in the bottom left-hand corner | 0:05:44 | 0:05:50 | |
to this rather beguiling, rather moving painting. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
It's undoubtedly a beautiful work, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
but the owners have contacted us | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
because questions have been raised about its authenticity, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and they need our help. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
Joe and Rosanna Natoli live in Queensland, Australia. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
The former mayor of a local council, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Joe has always been a passionate art collector, but a dramatic downturn | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
in his fortunes means he now works at a fruit and veg market. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Hello, Rosanna Natoli. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
His wife, Rosanna, is a popular TV presenter on a local news show. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
A teenager who survived another croc attack | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
hasn't impressed the girl he was showing off to. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
She says the incident was traumatic. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Our shared background in television news provides an ideal way to get in touch. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
I've invited Philip to join me in Broadcasting House in London | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
for a late-night satellite link-up with Joe and Rosanna. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
-Hi, Philip. -Hello there. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Welcome to my domain. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
This makes a great change from the art world. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
It certainly does. I'm much more comfortable here, I can tell you! | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
While I've just finished reading the BBC News At Ten, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Joe and Rosanna have got up early to speak to us. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Ah, there you are. -Hello. -Hello! | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Oh! Well, Joe and Rosanna, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
we're speaking to you from the BBC studio and I gather, Rosanna, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-that you're a local presenter there. -That's right, that's right. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
So I'm sitting, of course, in our studio here on the Sunshine Coast | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
in Queensland, Australia, talking to you. It's amazing, isn't it? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
It's kind of surreal actually. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Well, listen, let's talk about your picture, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
how did you come to acquire it in the first place? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Yeah, well, I was just scrolling through different auction sites and, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
all of a sudden, I saw this name Tom Roberts come up. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Joe was looking at the website of a provincial English auction house back in 2013, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
selling a painting listed as being by Tom Roberts, Australian, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
with a suggested title Contemplation | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
and an initial estimate of just £60 to £100. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
We could tell from the photographs that it was something special, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
that there was something special about it and the subject matter | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
spoke to us, and I guess we just thought it was worth a chance. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
So what happened in the end? What did you end up paying for it? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Well, it started off obviously at £60 and just kept going on and on. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
Obviously, we weren't the only ones who thought this might be something special. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
No, it was very frantic and the bidding kept going up | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
and it got to a point where we knew that our limit was £7,500. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
When that bid came in for £7,000, I took a deep breath and thought, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:40 | |
"I have one more bid and this is it," | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I waited patiently and it seemed like forever, but eventually, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
the hammer came down, we acquired the work. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
It was 2.10, 2.15 in the morning, I couldn't sleep, waiting to tell | 0:08:49 | 0:08:55 | |
Rosanna in the morning that we owned this Tom Roberts. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
It's quite an act of faith. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Have you actually shown it to... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Absolutely! A big leap of faith! | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Well, good on you, good on you. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
But have you actually shown it to anybody out there, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
to any academics or scholars and got an opinion? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Yes. That's where it didn't go so well for us. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
No. I ended up getting this expert opinion. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Unfortunately, the opinion came back negative. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
They basically didn't believe there was any element of the work, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
in terms of style, subject and brushstrokes | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
that resembled that of Tom Roberts. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
The expert who examined the painting felt that there were | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
no elements that related to Tom Roberts' work of the period, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
and that therefore it was not likely to be authentic. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
After gambling £7,500 on what they thought was a dead cert, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
Joe and Rosanna were distraught. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
For a leading expert to say no means that you've given us | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
a bit of a challenge, we're starting on a downer. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
We are so hopeful that you can discover some of the truth | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
behind this fascinating painting. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-Lovely people. -Weren't they just? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
But what a gamble, my goodness. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
But, you know, just to have taken that risk alone makes me want | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
to help them. I don't know whether it's by Tom Roberts, but | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
I think there's enough there for us to start on a project for this. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Our first step is to track the work back to the point of sale. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
The auction house who handled the painting agreed to pass a letter | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
to the seller, but we've received no further contact | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
from the last owner, leaving us with no information | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
about the picture's origins. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
We need to start our investigation much earlier, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
in late 19th-century London, where Tom Roberts lived and worked. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
I want to find out how this city shaped the early part of the artist's career. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
And across town, I'm on my way to the National Gallery. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
As luck would have it, the gallery is staging a special exhibition | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
devoted to Australia's impressionists, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
which includes some of Tom Roberts' most famous works. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
If we're to prove that Joe and Rosanna's picture is a genuine work | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
by Roberts, it is vital that we get to grips with what it is | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
that characterises his paintings and makes them so distinctive, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
so I've arranged to meet Anthea Callen, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
one of the world's leading experts on impressionism, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
with a passion for Australian art. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
We've got a rare opportunity to admire one of Roberts' masterpieces, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
A Break Away! | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Look at this picture. I have to say, it's... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-..it's deeply dramatic. -Oh, absolutely. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Absolutely. The focus of the painting | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
is the pioneering colonial Australian man. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
The whole composition is circling around him, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
attempting to control this crazy flock of sheep, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
so thirsty from drought that they're rushing to the dam, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
knocking the dogs for six in the process. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Roberts composed this painting in 1891, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
only a decade before Australia became an independent country. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
And this work is celebrated for | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
capturing a sense of this newly emerging nation. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
What it shows us is not only what the outback looked like, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
but actually what went on there and this was visualising a new national | 0:12:39 | 0:12:45 | |
identity, which was in the process, at this period, of formation. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
And in the skilful lightness of the brushstrokes, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Roberts was pioneering the same style employed by some of | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
the most famous impressionist painters of the period. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
What I love is the way that the forms of the sheep go from clarity | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
to these shorthand blobs, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
just like one might see in someone like Monet. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Absolutely, yeah. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Some of the mark making here is remarkably like Monet. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
So we're talking about a new country that's hatching | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
and a new style of art. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Modern techniques, modern compositions, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
contemporary subjects, and Tom Roberts is out there in front. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
It's evident from seeing this that we're dealing with a storyteller, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
an artist who delights in the narration of emotion and drama. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
Could it be, with a different story in mind, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
we see those same skills in our picture? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Meanwhile, we've received an e-mail from Joe in Australia, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
which unexpectedly raises the stakes for our investigation. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Joe explains that he feels a strong connection to the image | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
of a rejected artist, because of recent events in his own life. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
In 2016, three years after he bought the painting, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Joe's business went bust. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
He was forced to sell their home and the family was left bankrupt. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
This dramatic fall in fortunes | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
has had a big impact on Joe's mental health | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
and he's since suffered from depression. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I feel I placed my family, my wife, my children in that situation. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
It was something that I felt | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
totally responsible and... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and felt terrible about. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
It's clear now that this painting could be life-changing for Joe and Rosanna. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
This painting is hope, it represents the hope that | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
we'll be able to have a home of our own again, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
a place to bring up our family, a place that is ours, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
and also, it's a chance for us to put the past behind us | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
and move forward, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
so it really is so very, very important. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
With so much riding on this picture, I'm eager to find new evidence. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Our research shows that Tom Roberts left Australia in 1881, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
aged 25, and travelled to London to enrol at the Royal Academy of Arts. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:40 | |
So I've come to investigate his time as a young student artist. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Little is known about him in this period | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
so I've asked the Academy's chief archivist, Mark Pomeroy, to help me. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
Can we find any evidence here that links Tom Roberts | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
to Joe and Rosanna's painting? | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
We know that Tom Roberts was a student here at the Royal Academy. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
What have you got in this wonderful archive here | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
that can tell us a bit about that? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
We have student records for everyone who ever attended the schools, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
all the way from 1769 to now, so we're in the fortunate position of | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
being able to check basic details for every artist who ever trained here. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
If we just go to the entry for the Rs | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
and if we look at the top of the page here... | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Yes, Robert Tom William, painting. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
December 6th, 1881. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
So that's the date he was formally admitted as a student at the Royal Academy. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
For Tom Roberts to come here, all the way from Australia... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
..here, to the Royal Academy, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
that must have been an incredible thing for him. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
It was a hugely ambitious step. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
I mean, even in the 1880s, that journey wasn't undertaken lightly. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
London was the capital of the world, to all intents and purposes, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
and the Royal Academy was regarded as the greatest art school. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
There were no more than 20 people a year being | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
admitted to the schools and so it was incredibly exclusive. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
And looking at the painting that we've got here, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
I've got it on this tablet here, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
would he have done a painting like this as part of his curriculum here? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-How did it work? -No, I suspect not. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
The curriculum was incredibly formal, and so you'd start off | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
copying from antique casts of sculpture. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Once you'd achieved proficiency in that, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
you'd be allowed into the life school, where you'd draw from the living model, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and the painting schools where you would have to do several things, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
including copying old masters. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
And so at no point would you have been producing | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-original compositions. -A work of your own? -Yes, that's right. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-I find that extraordinary. -I know. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
So you'd come here to learn to paint, in Tom Roberts' case, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
but you couldn't actually paint any of your own compositions. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-No, that's right. -In the whole three years? -Yeah. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
So is there anything in here that gives you any clues | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
that might link it to the Academy in any way? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Well... | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
I suppose one could point at the Venus de Milo there, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
in that that was exactly the sort of classical cast | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
that students would be expected to draw from | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
and it's actually singled out in the laws of the schools | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
as being one of the few so-called mutilated sculptures | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
that students could submit a drawing of, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
as long as they also submitted drawings of the missing parts. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So he would have submitted the arms, essentially, with the Venus de Milo | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
-in order to gain admission. -How extraordinary! | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
He'd draw the Venus de Milo | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
and then submit drawings of her arms to complete it. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Could the Venus de Milo seen in our painting hint at Roberts' time here? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
Sadly, it appears that the painting itself could not have been | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
a part of the syllabus. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
But student artists did create work in their own time | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
and submit them for the Academy's prestigious annual exhibition. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
It's a new line of inquiry. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Is it possible to find out if he ever exhibited it | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
in any of the Royal Academy exhibitions here? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Certainly, we've got the records, we've got the catalogues, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
-I could check now. -Would you? -Certainly. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
While Mark searches the archives, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
I'm on my way to the Courtauld Institute Of Art. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
In style and composition, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
I think Joe and Rosanna's picture has all the hallmarks | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
of a late 19th-century painting. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Scientific evidence could help back this up, and rule out a later hand. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
So I've arranged for head of conservation | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Aviva Burnstock to analyse the picture. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Can she find any forensic clues | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
that can accurately date when it was painted? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
So, what have you been able to deduce about the period of the painting? | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
It looks like it's painted using a fairly traditional | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
middle 19th-century painting technique. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
You've got a white commercial priming on the stretcher. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-So that's the layer upon which it's painted. -Yes. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
And then he's used things like vermillion and a good range of | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
earth pigments, some green earth, and some yellow ochre, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
some Prussian blue for the drapery of the woman, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and mixed in with yellow ochre for the curtains. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
So you're saying this is the traditional recipe | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
for an artist working in the late 19th century? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Yeah, from the middle of the 19th century, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
perhaps in the late 19th century, too, for a conventional painter. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
But there's nothing you've found that would suggest that it's later | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-than that period, either. -Well, there are some areas of restoration, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
as you would expect of a picture of this age, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
and apart from those areas, I have not found in the original paint | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
anything that would suggest it was a 20th-century painting. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Aviva has found clear indications | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
that the painting is a mid-to-late 19th-century work. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
So, if it is by Tom Roberts, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
it would have to be in the early part of his career, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
perhaps when he was living in London between 1881 and 1885. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Aviva has also employed infrared photography to look beneath | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
the surface and she has spotted some surprising details | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
around the edges of the painting. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
So, you can see, | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
in the infrared image a lot more detail in the background. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Yes, because I've always thought it was hazy and dark up there, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
but what have you been able to make out? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
You can see a violin on the top shelf here. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-Do you see the violin there? -Oh, how extraordinary! | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
And you can see a mirror, or it might even be a canvas, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
back to front and then a drawer which is pulled out | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
with more materials on it. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
This type of detail is a characteristic | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
of a formally-trained 19th-century Academy artist. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
And Aviva's infrared analysis of the back of the painting | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
has also revealed something very promising. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Next to the title Rejected, we can now see "No 1", and | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
alongside that, what would appear to be several indistinct words. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
There is an inscription, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
which is, you can see quite clearly in infrared... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-What is it? -That says... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
It's an address, it says 10 James St, Haymarket, SW... | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
-Mmm ..something. -A postcode as well. How extraordinary! | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
So we haven't just got the title of the picture | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and the proposed artist's name, Tom Roberts, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
but we have an address to go with it. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
We must find out about that. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Can we establish a solid link between Tom Roberts and this address? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
Fiona is investigating his time as a student in London, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
so I need to update her on this new discovery. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
You have one new message. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Fiona, hi, this is Philip speaking. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
On the back of the picture we've found an address. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Now, this could be a lead and I'm wondering whether you could | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
possibly look into it. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
Hi, Mark. We're looking for two things now, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
not only was this painting exhibited here at the Royal Academy, but also, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
is there anything you can find that would link the address | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
10 James St, Haymarket, to Tom Roberts? | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
Well, we'll see, because the address was something that | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
-all artists had to submit. -Right. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-That's encouraging. -Here we've got the original exhibition catalogues | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
covering the 1880s. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
And if we go to the index for '83. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-So he'd have been in his second year by then. -That's right. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
There's the Rs, can you find it? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
Roberts, T. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
10 James St, Haymarket! | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
-There we go. -Wow! | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
This is a real breakthrough. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
We've found the same address that is written on the back of the picture. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
That is our first link between Roberts himself... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
..and the painting. And this places him living | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
at 10 James St in 1883. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
That's right. And submitting paintings. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Successfully in this case. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
-Was it this painting? -Do you want to see? -Can we find out? -Yeah. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
It's called Brought Back. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
OK, so it's not that one. Did he exhibit successfully any other year? | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Well, luckily enough, we've got another shot at this. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
The very next year, 1884... | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Here we are. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
T Roberts, Basking: A Corner In The Alhambra. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
Well, it's definitely not that one, is it? | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
-No, it's not even close. -Not remotely! | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Gosh, how frustrating. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
Brought Back was the first work Roberts had exhibited | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
at the Royal Academy in 1883. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
While Basking: A Corner In The Alhambra was displayed the following year. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Although we've discovered that the address on the back of Joe's picture | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
is where Roberts lived while studying here, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
we can find no record of it being exhibited in the UK. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
We've exhausted all the avenues of research here. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Now there's only one place we can go to hunt for new evidence - | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Australia. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Tom Roberts returned down under in 1885, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
building his career and reputation here until his death in 1931. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Australia's now home to important collections of his early paintings | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and archives, which could help us in our investigation. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
But first we're on our way to meet Joe and Rosanna on the Sunshine Coast. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
It's so wonderful to be in Australia for the first time. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
You know, I used to dream about this place as a kid, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
I used to dig holes in the garden just hoping to pop up here. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
I last came here 20 years ago, when I was a baby, obviously. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
-Naturally. -And how's your Aussie accent? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I love the accent out here, don't you? Sort of g'day, welcome. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
-I haven't quite cracked it. -No, that's terrible. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
We're about to meet Joe and Rosanna so definitely don't try it in front of them! | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
Being here, we really get a sense of the landscape that inspired Roberts | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
- the incredible light, the sun-drenched colours | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
and the vast, almost never-ending sense of space. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
It was here that Roberts became an artist of great maturity and vision. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
If we do manage to prove this picture, we'll be filling in | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
a missing part of the biography | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
of one of Australia's most important artists. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
I know, but there are so many missing facts at this stage. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
I just hope Rosanna and Joe know what they are in for. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
As Joe and Rosanna no longer have a permanent home of their own, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
we've arranged to meet them at Rosanna's sister's house. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
And after updating them about our progress so far, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
the chance to talk face-to-face helps us understand | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
just how difficult things have been. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
You've had quite a time of it in recent years. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
We have. We definitely have. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
So you started up a food business, Joe. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Yeah. But unfortunately, the venture didn't go so well. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
We had to sell our house to try and keep our business afloat. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
We were selling art to try and keep our business afloat | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
and then in February, on Valentine's Day, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
we had to close the business. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
You know, when your house is on the line, you do what you can, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
to hope that things can turn around, and I almost lost my health. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
I mean, my feet are still numb | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
from the amount of hours that I worked in that business. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
I still see a psychologist once a month to help me. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
-My goodness! -And this woman here has been so strong. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
She has been the woman in that picture who has been consoling me. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
If this does turn out to be a picture by Tom Roberts, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
what would it mean to you? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Well, it means so much | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
to me in particular, because I feel so responsible for our position. | 0:27:54 | 0:28:00 | |
Oh, honey! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
I guess what it's going to mean for us | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
is that we might have a home again | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
of our own. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
And for us and for our children, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
that's going to be truly amazing. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Joe is clearly broken | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
by what he's been through. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
The pressure, my goodness. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
I can't imagine what it would be like coming back and telling them | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
that this picture is NOT by Tom Roberts. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
I can't even bear to think about that. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
I just fervently hope, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
almost more than any programme we've done... | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
..that we come back with good news. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
We just have to. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
With a fresh sense of purpose, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
we're leaving the Sunshine Coast in search of new leads. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
First, we've all come to Melbourne to search for any evidence | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
that could prove the painting is a genuine work by Tom Roberts. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
It was here that Roberts lived and worked for long periods | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
after he returned from London in 1885. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
He led a new movement, now dubbed Australian Impressionism, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
exhibiting works alongside acclaimed contemporaries, such as Arthur Streeton. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
Melbourne is home to some of the country's most important | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
art collections, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
including some rare examples of Roberts' early paintings. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
Rosanna and I are on our way to the National Gallery of Victoria. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
There's one particular work here | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
that Roberts composed in the same period | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
we think our painting was made, and I'm hoping it might display | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
some very similar stylistic traits to Joe and Rosanna's picture. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
It's a portrait of one Mrs Abrahams, the wife of a friend of Tom Roberts, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
painted here in Melbourne in 1888. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Every artist has their own way of approaching a composition, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
their own way of telling a story and what we're seeing here is | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
a really specific way of doing so, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
using all sorts of objects, hints and props. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
This woman is a fashionable lady, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
what Roberts wanted to do was show, with the plants, with the reeds, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
on the table next to her, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
look at that beautiful piece of blossom and then an Oriental pot | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
next to it, and the chair upon which she's sitting, that wicker chair - | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
all references to the subject's sophistication and cultivation. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
You can begin to work out what type of woman she was on the basis of | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
everything that's around her. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:54 | |
And I think we find that in your picture. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
You have the central figure - in your case it's two figures - | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
and around and about, these satellite objects | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
that tell you more, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
that give you hints, give you clues about what's going on. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Bottom right-hand corner, three cups on the table, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
-what do you think those are about? -Coming to tea. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
Three people. A reference to the friendship of the subject, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
the subject's husband and the artist - | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
it's possibly given as a wedding present. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
Now, in your picture, it's a bunch of paints, it's brushes, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
its references to the artist at work, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
-put almost exactly in the same place. -The same spot. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Both these pictures are stage sets | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
in which the props are telling you a story. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
They're different stories, but the means, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
the manner by which the story is told is the same. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
What also strikes me is the invisible line that Roberts has used | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
to help order the scene. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
This quirk is also visible in our painting, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
an artistic device to help the viewer navigate | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
a picture rich in detail. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
So, do you get a sense that your picture could be by the same hand? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
I do. The structure seems to be similar, and that technique, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
of all those little curiosities. Once you see this work, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
you can see that storytelling technique. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-VOICEOVER: -This is really encouraging. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
There are significant stylistic similarities | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
between this genuine work and Joe and Rosanna's painting. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
While Philip continues his enquiries, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
Joe and I are following up a new lead. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Our research has revealed that while Tom Roberts was living | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
in London, he continued to be a member of an Australian art society | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
and sent several paintings back to Melbourne to be exhibited. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
Could it be that the back of Joe's painting was marked up with a title | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
and address for it to be sent back here to Melbourne for an exhibition? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
The State Library of Victoria holds records of the exhibitions | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
that were held in Melbourne between 1881 and 1885 - | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
the years Roberts was in London - | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
so Joe and I are taking a closer look. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
This is interesting, "special notice to artist", so these are the rules. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
At the back of each frame must be written the name of the artist | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
and the number. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Do you remember the number on the back of your picture? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
-Number one. -Yeah. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
Could this explain why "No 1" was spotted | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
under the infrared, written on the back? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
The records detail each artist who was accepted for exhibition by name | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
and title of work. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
No, sculpture, so he's not in this one. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
It's a painstaking search. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Might later catalogues contain any reference to Tom Roberts | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
or Joe and Rosanna's picture? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
-Robertson. -Yeah. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
-Close. -Frustratingly, yeah, but not Roberts. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
OK, that's the end. Right, let's look at the next one. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
-There it is. -Tom Roberts. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
-OK. -Yeah. -This is exciting. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Now we need the title. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
Chillington Churchyard. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
Spanish Water-Carrier. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
The Thames by Westminster. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
-So this was painted in London and sent back here for exhibition. -Yeah. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
-And that's it. -Nothing else. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-How frustrating. -I can't believe that. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
I was so hoping that we would find it here. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
It's such a mystery. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:49 | |
Why is there a number, and yet it's not listed here? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
He's obviously not brought it back to Australia. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
With no record of a Tom Roberts painting called No 1 Rejected | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
in the archives of the State Library of Victoria, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
we're faced with two options. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Either the painting remained undiscovered in the UK | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
for over 100 years or it's not quite what it appears to be, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
as the expert who first examined it seemed to suspect. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
Could it be a clever fake? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
To investigate the murky side of the market for Tom Roberts' work, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
Rosanna and I are visiting the University of Melbourne. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
We've arranged to meet Professor Robyn Sloggett, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
an art conservator who has helped to identify several fake Tom Roberts | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
paintings sold in Australia. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Robyn, I'm aware that, as a result of your studies, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
you're known as the Queen Of Fakery out here. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
Thank you. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
So, in the case of Tom Roberts, can you give me sort of some sense of... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
..the scale, the type of fakery that's out there? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
Interesting artist, important artist, worth a lot of money, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
so, clearly, forgers are going to be interested in Tom Roberts. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Did you know that you had entered such shark-infested waters? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Finding it hard to breathe right now. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
We knew of course that Tom Roberts is a reputable | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
and well-loved Australian artist, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
and it would make sense that, therefore, the forgers would take on his name. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
But that's in hindsight, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
it's very sensible to see and hear that now, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
and not when we were making the decision to buy. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
I know that you've got two here from your sort of chamber of horrors. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Let's look at this one. This looks to me | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
like a reasonably competent picture, very much in the Roberts style. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
And that's what it's been created for - | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
to look like a reasonably competent picture, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
not only in the Roberts style, but by Roberts. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
I can't help noticing those little flat-edged, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
impasto-filled brushstrokes in the sky. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
It looks a bit like yours. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
This is, this is terrifying. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
The frightening thing is how clinical it is and how | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
malicious some people might have been along the way. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
That's what's frightening. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
This one is made by someone who's studied the techniques | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
of Tom Roberts, and then tried to make a work | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
that someone would pay money for, as if it were a Tom Roberts. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
Let's look at the back. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
Actually, yeah, it's a bit of a giveaway, isn't it? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
What's interesting is this label which has clearly been | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
added on afterwards, so it screams tricked-up at you. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
Although the brushstrokes look seductive, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Robyn confidently identified this as a later fake. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
But we know from our own scientific tests at the Courtauld Institute | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
that our painting seems to be from the late 19th century. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
But what about this picture? | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
It also seems to be from the right period. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
But it, too, is a fake. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
I mean, it looks quite old. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Let's have a look at the back. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
I mean, look, this is a 1900 stretcher. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
And written on the back of this picture, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
we also see the name Tom Roberts. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
So this is an example of one that's been repurposed. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Sorry, "re-purposed"? I learned a new word here today. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Started off as something else and now it's been made into | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
a Tom Roberts for the purposes of selling it. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Everything about it is of the period, so if you do tests on this, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
you're not going to find something that you couldn't expect to find | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
in an 1890 painting. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
Goodness gracious me! | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Maybe the expert who viewed Joe and Rosanna's painting | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
believed it, too, had been repurposed - | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
a nightmare scenario that we're keen to rule out. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
How would you feel for your husband, if it's a fake? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
I'd be devastated, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
because I know he would be devastated, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
and no-one wants that news. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
This case is now at a crucial stage for everyone involved. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
So we've come to Sydney, where there are some final leads | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
we need to investigate if we're to have any chance | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
of overturning the original verdict that the painting is not genuine. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
I hope we're going to find here the evidence that will authenticate this | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
painting for Joe, cos having spent all this time with him, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
I worry about his emotional fragility. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Everything is riding on this picture for him and I can't bear to think | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
what will happen if we don't prove it's genuine. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Yeah, I felt that very strongly with Rosanna as well, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
but what we're lacking is any physical, solid evidence, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
anything on paper that testifies to the existence of this. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
I just really hope somewhere here we can lay our hands on it because, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
without it, we're not going to be able to authenticate this picture. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
In Australia's largest city, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
we found a unique personal connection to Tom Roberts, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
which we hope can help provide the new evidence we need. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Joe and I are taking the painting to a direct descendant of Tom Roberts - | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
his great-granddaughter. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
Lisa Roberts is an accomplished artist herself, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
and a keen student of her great-grandfather's work. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
And here it is. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-Wow. -What do you think? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:42 | |
-It is a tense moment. -It's beautiful. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Good! I was wondering what you were going to say! | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Oh, Joe... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
It's so moving. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
As a family member, you are the closest we can get to Tom Roberts. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
Does this speak to you of the man? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
It certainly does. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
It screams Tom Roberts. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-Does it? Why? -It does! -Why does it scream that to you? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
On many levels - the subject, the story, the feelings. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
But also, I've just noticed these brushstrokes, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
these wide strokes that you get when you use a flat chisel-shaped brush, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:27 | |
which Tom has been noted to be using before he came to London. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
And these are the strokes that he then further developed | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
in his later times in Australia, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
and I can see the beginnings of that in this picture, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
so these are the really familiar marks to me. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
VOICEOVER: This is encouraging. Lisa is convinced | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
the painting is a genuine work by her great-grandfather. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
And she also has a fascinating theory about the unhappy artist in the picture. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
And this is clearly Tom. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
You think this is a self-portrait? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
I do. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
That's so clearly his body. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
That hand, I've seen in that position in photographs. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
He had big hands. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
And they're his ears and his long legs. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
-And the face? -The face... | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
-Yes. -So, if this IS a self-portrait, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
this is a completely new theory for us. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
So, if true, hugely important. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
Academically, in terms of contributing to the knowledge | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
about his work - his first self-portrait. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
I mean, who would have ever thought that it could have been that. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
Lisa also believes she can shed some light on what motivated Tom Roberts | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
to paint this mournful, emotional scene. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
His mother had remarried a man who Tom didn't approve of, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
and so, they...they were estranged for a period of time. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
So he went to London and he got into the Royal Academy, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
so he was proud and he wanted to tell his mother, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
so he wrote her a letter. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:11 | |
And obviously in those days it had to come by ship. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
It never reached her. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
She'd died in the meantime. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
So, to me, this painting could be maybe representing "Mother", | 0:43:19 | 0:43:25 | |
the love of his mother that he... | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
..probably wanted, particularly at this time. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
These are universal themes. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
Maybe that's why this painting resonates so much with me | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
because that's me all over. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
Lisa's belief that this is a self-portrait | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
has provided the investigation with a tantalising new theory. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
And in Sydney's State Library, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
I've secured a rare opportunity to look through Tom Roberts' original sketchbooks. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:07 | |
They contain the artist's preparatory drawings. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:12 | |
The process of moving from sketch to finished painting | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
was a technique Roberts was taught at the Royal Academy. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Can I find any sketches here | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
which could directly relate to Joe and Rosanna's picture? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
These are incredible things, you know. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
It is like an X-ray into Tom Roberts's mind. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
You can see the way he's thinking, the way he's developing ideas. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
You can just imagine that girl looking away in a painting, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
possibly a street scene. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
One of the things that really struck me about your painting | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
when I first saw it was that gesture of the hand on the face, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
like a philosopher, a thinker. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
Here is a man leaning on his hand. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
Now, OK, it's from another direction, but it gets better. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
-Here...it's now stronger, it's more graphic. -Mmm. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:12 | |
We're getting warmer. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
Two sketches of a man with head in hand, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
just like the figure in our picture. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
There's one here... | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
that I'd like you to look at in particular. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
-Does that give you... -Oh, my goodness! | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
Not bad, eh? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Here we have a drawing of a man and a woman consoling each other, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
just like the central characters in Joe and Rosanna's picture. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
The point is, we're looking into the head of Tom Roberts here. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
He's up to something, and what he's up to... | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
..can be found deeper into the book. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
And here... | 0:45:59 | 0:46:00 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
And now, the most compelling evidence of all, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
a simple sketch of an artist in his studio | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
with the edge of a painting in the corner. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
It's emotionally slightly different. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
I mean, this guy is tearing his hair out, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
he's having a sort of artistic nervous breakdown. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-Yeah, there's despair. -But the point is, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
look at the composition, look at the whole concept, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
an artist, picture, you know, deep agitation, in need of consolation. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:34 | |
-He's thought about that, hasn't he? He's done that earlier. -Yes, yes. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
And look here. The curiosities on the wall behind. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
Well, of course, that's a really good point. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
These are props around him, very much like your picture. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
What you've got here shows he was heading in the direction of your painting. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
I can't even believe that this exists and that you could find it. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
It is a miracle. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:57 | |
They have come to us at a wonderful moment. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
I mean, we didn't have provenance. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
There's a great gap. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
We needed something. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
And I think we're looking at an astonishingly transformative piece of evidence. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:47:10 | 0:47:11 | |
That's extraordinary! | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
These sketches, made by Roberts | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
while he was studying at the Royal Academy, appear to connect | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
the artist directly to Joe and Rosanna's painting. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
Could this be the final evidence that we need? | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
We've arranged to meet Joe and Rosanna at a Sydney restaurant. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
Our investigation is almost complete... | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
..but with Joe now up to speed on the latest discoveries, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
emotions are running high. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
We wanted to have this moment together to celebrate | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
what is a fantastic day, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
incredible progress. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
The only thing I would say... | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
I hate even saying this, is that Philip and I over the years, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
making this series, we have been here before, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
where all the evidence has been so strong, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
and we have made such good progress, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
but then the painting has not been authenticated. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
You know, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
all the news that we're discovering | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
is moving forward. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
To hear all of this | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
gives us so much hope. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
Oh, Joe! | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
Well, we have done as much as we can. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
So, what is now crucial | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
is that we marshal all the evidence - stylistic, forensic, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
add the drawings, and put that case to the scholars. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
Well, you have our blessing. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
I've come to the Art Gallery of New South Wales to present | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
the painting to one of the leading authorities on Tom Roberts. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
Mary Eagle is a former curator and a scholar of his work. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
The leading auction houses in Australia now look to her judgment | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
to determine if a work is genuine. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
Before she assesses our case, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
what are her first impressions of Joe's painting? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
I like the still life painting down in the lower right. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
-So, down here? -That is exquisite. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
The painting of the lamp, there, is very beautiful. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
It is really like the later work of Tom Roberts. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
I also like, particularly like, the composition. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
I dislike the painting of the figure. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
I think he dominates the scene, in an almost troubling way, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
at least to me it's troubling because I think, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
not well-painted. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
Tom Roberts became a very, very good painter of faces, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:58 | |
but this face is slabby. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
It looks like moulded cottage cheese rather than... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:05 | |
-Oh, gosh. Oh, Mary! -Well, it does! | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
We showed this to Tom Roberts' great-granddaughter, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
and she felt very strongly that it's a self-portrait, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
that this is actually Tom Roberts himself. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
It certainly looks like him. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
Well, it strikes me as being 80% of young men at his time, at that time. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:29 | |
I'd be disappointed if Tom painted himself. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
It would make this a confessional painting, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
and I don't think he was so self-indulgent. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Does it trouble you that we have over a century | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
of missing provenance when it comes to this painting? | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
We have not managed to establish a paper trail | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
that goes from our current owner back to the brush of Tom Roberts? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
-There's just a big gap there. -It's very disappointing because... | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
..let's say someone has faked it, let's say they used his sketchbooks, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
used early paintings, knew exactly what women wore at that time. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:09 | |
The scientific analysis is very useful. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Provenance would be... | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
..it'd really cement the picture, wouldn't it? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
And we don't have that provenance to give you, I'm afraid. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
Well, I'm sorry about that. What a pity. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
Well, I've left Mary with the painting and our file of evidence, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
and she's going to consider it before she gives us her verdict. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
There are some things about the painting she clearly liked | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
very much, others that she really didn't, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
and I was a bit taken aback by how much she didn't like the figure, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
the artist himself, particularly the face. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
I mean, it's called Rejected, and I can only hope... | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
..that she doesn't reject it and she delivers the verdict | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
that Joe so desperately wants. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
Over the course of this investigation, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
we've found some compelling new evidence. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Scientific tests confirming the painting is a late 19th-century work. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:13 | |
An address on the back of the painting matching a place | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
where Tom Roberts lived in London. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Convincing stylistic similarities to genuine works. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
We've also compared the signature on Joe's painting to genuine examples, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
and found several that bear striking similarities. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
And most convincing of all, Tom Roberts' sketchbooks, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
which we believe show his preparatory drawings | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
for Joe and Rosanna's picture. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
One day later, we receive Mary Eagle's judgment. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
We need to deliver the verdict to Joe and Rosanna. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
It's a decision which could change their lives, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
so we've all arranged to meet at Sydney's State Library. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
I only wish that Joe and Rosanna's picture had not been turned down. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
It's so much more difficult in the art world to reverse an opinion | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
that's already been stated. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
Do I think we've done enough research? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Have we made the case on paper? | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
Yes, I think we have. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:18 | |
Will it be enough, though, to reverse that view, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
to make it authentic? | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
Well, we're about to find out. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
I'm feeling very apprehensive at this moment. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
It's difficult to contain all of those emotions, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
but I think we're ready to find out, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
we are at a point in our life now that, you know, we need to move on, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
and really discover what this painting is all about. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
OK, Joe and Rosanna, we've now got to the endgame, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
and, in this envelope here, we have the answer. | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
-Are you ready for it? -We're ready. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
-Yes. -Mm-hmm. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
OK. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:06 | |
"On looking at the painting itself... | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
"..there is enough evidence, particularly... | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
SHE CHOKES | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
"..particularly the composition and the painting of the still life..." | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
Stop it, you're getting me going! | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
"..to support the conclusion that it IS by Tom Roberts!" | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
Well done! Oh, my goodness, I'm so thrilled for you. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
I can read the rest of it now. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
"It fills a gap in what we know about Tom Roberts, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
"and I think it might be the first of his paintings | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
"that show signs of his greatest traits, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
"the expression of feeling - that trait may be overstated here - | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
"but he was to achieve some of Australia's greatest paintings." | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Oh, Joe, look at you! | 0:55:00 | 0:55:01 | |
Say something, Joe. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
I mean, that's just amazing to hear that. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
I mean, I've wanted to hear that for so long. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
He has felt responsible and he has felt that he was the one | 0:55:13 | 0:55:19 | |
who put us in this situation, so this, for him, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
is just about realising that he has done good. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:28 | |
-He's done good. -It's redemption. It's redemption, Joe. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
I wanted to contain, I've said it's time | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
for me to put all those feelings into a box and put it away. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
And I think I can do that now. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
-This will help you do that. -Yes, let us do that. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
So, this brings up the subject of the valuation. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
What are we dealing with here? | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Well, a pivotal, early work | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
by a man who went on to become the father of Australian Impressionism. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:57 | |
There are Australian collectors who would love this, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
and also museums. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
We must be talking about a price in excess of £200,000. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
That's just amazing. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
That is wonderful. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
-And this is yours. -Thank you. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
I'm so relieved! | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
My overwhelming feeling at the end of all that, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
having come to the other side of the world, is relief! | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Relief for Joe, relief that this painting he believed in for so long | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
has come good. And as I read that verdict out to him, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
I could almost see him stand taller and his back grow straighter. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
And he is now proud, proud of what he's achieved. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
Which is a great result. And there is another aspect to all of this. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
It's only by spending time here in Australia that I realise | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
how important Tom Roberts is to the history of art out here, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
and in a sense we've put back a missing building block, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
or put it another way, a painting called Rejected is now accepted. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:13 | |
If you think you have an undiscovered masterpiece | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
or other precious object, contact us at... | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 |