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The stage adaptation of Mark Haddon's bestselling novel | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night-time | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
opened here on the smallest stage of the National Theatre | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
on London's South Bank | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
in 2012. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
It went on to win seven Olivier Awards, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
transferred to the West End and then went on tour in Britain. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
And the Broadway production has recently taken New York by storm. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
The story in both the book and the play is told by a 15-year-old boy | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
who finds other people frightening and confusing. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
And it has helped transform our understanding | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
of a neurological condition that affects 1 in 100 children. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
That boy is called Christopher. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
And tonight on Imagine... we bring you | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
his very own documentary, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
with a little help from friends. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:55 | 0:01:01 | |
CITY NOISE | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
ELECTRONIC MUSIC | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Somebody that he's trusted all his life | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
has suddenly become untrustworthy. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Somebody who's not autistic would think, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
"Well, just cos you killed a dog | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
"doesn't mean you're going to kill a human being." | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
You killed a dog out of anger, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
but to a neuro-typical person, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
a dog is probably less significant to another human being. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
But somebody on the autistic spectrum wouldn't make that interpretation. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
They'd be just, like, "Well, you killed a dog, "so you could kill a person." | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Ah, great. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I found out I was on the spectrum when I was 12. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
And the reason I was told | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
was because I started asking my mum questions | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
about why I was different. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
In what way did you find yourself being different? | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Well, I got bullied, but also, I liked computers, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
and...I think that I struggled socially. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I never realised when I was at school that... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
And I think Christopher, if he was a real-life person, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
he'd properly learn this when he left school - | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
that there are many people who like many different things | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
that aren't necessarily mainstream. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
But I didn't know that when I was at school, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and I just thought I was always going to be lonely. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
KIDS SCREAMING | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
SCREAMING CONTINUES, CRASHING MUSIC | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
-WOMAN READS: -"It was seven minutes after midnight. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
"The dog was lying on the grass in the middle of the lawn | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
"in front of Mrs Shears' house. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
"Its eyes were closed. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
"It looked as if it was running on its side, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
"the way dogs run when they think they are chasing a cat in a dream. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
"But the dog was not running or asleep. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
"The dog was dead." | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
What the fuck have you done to my dog?! | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
"There was a garden fork sticking out of the dog. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
"The dog was called Wellington." | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
So I began with this picture of a dog with a fork through it. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
No real idea of where that came from | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
except that I have quite a black sense of humour, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
and I thought there was something absolutely hilarious about it. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
I mean, it's never funny - never funny - onstage, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
but in my mind, I thought there was something really blackly funny | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
about that. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
But to make it funny, you had to tell the story in a certain way. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
And that was the genesis of Christopher. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
-WOMAN READS: -"My name is Christopher John Francis Boone. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
"I live at 36 Randolph Street, Swindon, Wiltshire. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
"I know all the countries of the world and the capital cities, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
"and every prime number up to 7,507." | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Then we've got... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
We've got masses of these. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
These are... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
-Christopher's book. -Oh, right. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
And we have masses of them because they get really trashed. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
So, this is the beginning of the story. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
We're meant to be writing stories today, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
so why don't you write about what happened to Wellington last night? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
-OK, I will. -I can help you. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Will you help me with the spelling and the grammar and the footnotes? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
So, this is the book that Siobhan starts reading | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
at the top of the show. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
"I find people confusing. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
"This is for two main reasons. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
"The first main reason is that people do a lot of talking | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
"without using any words." | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
What was central to me in the adaptation was the notion | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
of making Siobhan, his teacher, the narrator of the piece. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
In the book, she's quite an ephemeral figure, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
or she's quite a marginal character in the book. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
She's the heart of the play. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
It struck me that I think everybody has a favourite teacher. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
English... No, we don't want to go to that one. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
We don't want to go there. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
We can go to Maths and we can go to Science. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
She reads Christopher's book | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
with exactly the same perspective as we read it. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
She's astonished by his imagination. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
She cares for him, she understands things | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
that he doesn't understand himself. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
The whole play is based around her | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
effectively falling in love with Christopher, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
and falling in love with his ambition to solve the mystery | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
of who killed Wellington - | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
to solve the case of the curious incident | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
of the dog in the night-time. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
-CHRISTOPHER: -I've decided I'm going to try | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
and find out who killed Wellington, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
because a good day is a day for projects and for planning things. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Who's Wellington? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Wellington is a dog that used to belong to my neighbour Mrs Shears, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
but he is dead now because somebody killed him | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
by putting a garden fork through him, and I found him. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Then a policeman came and thought I'd killed him, but I hadn't. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Then he tried to touch me, so I hit him. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-Then I had to go to the police station. -Gosh. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
I'm going to find out who really killed Wellington | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and make it a project. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
In school, we have 36 children. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Our smallest class is three | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and our largest class is six. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Well, actually, we've had a new body, so it's seven. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
But we try and keep about six. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
So, they're very small. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
But our kids are very complex young people. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
HE SQUEALS | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-Kids get breaks. -I like it when Adam and Martin come here. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-Do you? -Yeah. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
What are you doing at the moment, Ruben? No. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
-I'd just like to feel that. -Yeah, but you can't. -Why? -Ask. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-Can I feel that? -Yeah. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Aw, it feels like...cat fur, a bit. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-Doesn't it, Adam? -It's not cat. What do you think it is? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
What is that fur? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
I think it's fake fur. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
-Oh, but does it look like cat fur? -A little bit. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Ask... Do you know what it is? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Fake fur, he said. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
Reuben, do you know what that is? What it's for? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-What's that for? -It's a microphone. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Really? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
..Yes, that would be lovely. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
'Simon felt... When he was reading the book, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
'he felt what was exciting about it was that,' | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
as you were reading this book, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
you suddenly realised that Christopher had been told | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
to write a book | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
and that this was the book that he had written. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
So, you were reading his words. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
And so that's what he wanted to do with the stage adaptation, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
that then it was a play. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
And, oh, we're watching the play | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
that he'd written from the book that he'd written. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Christopher, I want to ask you something. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
I was wondering | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
if you'd like to make a play out of your book. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
I think a lot of people would be really interested | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
in what would happen | 0:08:41 | 0:08:42 | |
if people took your book and started acting bits out of it. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
No. I don't like acting. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Because it is pretending that something is real | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
when it is not really real at all, so it's like a kind of lie. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
But people like stories, Christopher. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Some people find things which are kind of true | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
in things which are made up. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
You like your Sherlock Holmes stories | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
and you know Sherlock Holmes isn't a real person, don't you? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
I noticed a dog in the yard. Does he sleep out there at night? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
Yes, always. He's a very good watchdog. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
You didn't by any chance hear him barking during the night? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
No, I didn't. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
No. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
I was given the collection of Sherlock Holmes books | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and collection of Sherlock Holmes short stories... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
-The red one? -No. -Because I've got the red one. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
They were in two separate volumes - short stories and... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Oh, I've got the huge one... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
that I need a special bag... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
I need a special bag to carry it around. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
What do you like about Sherlock Holmes? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
He's a detective. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
He actually works very much like how I work. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
I don't leap to conclusions if I don't have enough evidence. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
Because, like, if I saw my shoe, I wouldn't automatically | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
jump to the conclusion that it was mine. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Because someone else could have lost exactly the same shoe. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
And also because loads of television versions of Sherlock | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
seem very autistic. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Do you think in the books that he seems a bit autistic? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Yes. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
Although, annoyingly, they hadn't actually discovered autism | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
by that point, so it's impossible to actually tell | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
if he would have been diagnosed as autistic. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Any other point to which you want to draw my attention? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Well, to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The dog was perfectly quiet in the night. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-No, that was the curious incident. -Oh. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
In the book, he describes himself as being a little bit | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
like Sherlock Holmes in that he can detach his mind at will, | 0:10:54 | 0:11:00 | |
and his brain... Well, it's a bit like a laboratory. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
So that was very much how we decided to design the show - | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
like a laboratory of his brain. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
The first half of the show is like a whodunnit | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
so we also wanted to make the design a bit like an incident board | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
in a crime room in a police station. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Can I help you? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Do you know who killed Wellington? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Who the fuck is Wellington?! | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
-Mrs Shears' dog. -Someone killed her dog? -With a fork. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I'm going to make this one like a whole block colour. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
Well, maybe Christopher wants to be a detective | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
to try and make the world make sense to him or to try | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and understand it or to try and solve the problems around him. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
But you'd probably like me to paint something specific, wouldn't you? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-Like something a bit more figurative? -Not necessarily. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Because these paintings aren't about anything in particular. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
I'm kind of like... It is a little bit weird, painting | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
when you know that you've got you and Martin | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
standing in the corner. It is a little bit weird! | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Christopher is making logical assumptions | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
about the world around him and the world is illogical, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
the world doesn't make sense, and that's a big problem for people | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
on the spectrum, understanding that the world doesn't make sense. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
In some ways, his world is quite straightforward | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
and quite...yes, literal, but in other sort of areas of his mind, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:55 | |
he is an incredibly gifted thinker. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Animals, maths, space, computers, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
there is a purity to them which is | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
the way that Christopher sees the world, really, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
and would like the world to be. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
I think it's the complexities of other people | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
and human behaviour which Christopher finds, really, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
a struggle to deal with. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
When I first wrote the script, what I was trying to do | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
was get as deeply as possible into Christopher's mind, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
and that, actually, was always one of the challenges of the whole | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
production - taking the audience inside Christopher's brain. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
I think it was key to Bunny's work, designing it, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and, really, the essence of Marianne's production. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
I suppose, for me, the play is about...isolation | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
and a lot of the prime characters feel isolated | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
and I think that probably Mark and Simon and I | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
have a strong connection to what that felt like | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
as we were growing up - in different ways for all of us. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
I like looking at the rain. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
I like it because it makes me think | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
-how all the water in the world is connected. -Is it? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
This water, this rain, has evaporated | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
actually from somewhere like maybe the Gulf of Mexico, maybe, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
or Baffin Bay, and now it is falling in front of the house | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
and then it will drain into the gutter and then it will flow | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
to a sewage station where it will be cleaned, and then | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
it will go into a river and then it will go back into the ocean again. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
He sees things that the rest of us do not see - he sees beauty, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
he experiences wonder in a way that no-one sitting in the audience | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
does about certain things. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
As a result of that outside point of view, he looks back at us, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and one of the experiences of reading the book | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
and hopefully one of the experiences of watching the play, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
you start to realise how odd we are and how odd our way of life is. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
And you only have to take a few steps outside the boundary | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
of normality to think, "We are very odd indeed, all of us." | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
Hello. Are you filming us? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Why?! | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
Hello! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
-'I don't always do what I'm told.' -'Why?' | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Because when people tell you what to do, it is usually confusing | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
and does not make sense. For example, people often say, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
"Be quiet," but they don't tell you how long to be quiet for. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Marianne tasked me | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
with becoming a sort of mini-expert in autism or Asperger's, so I bought | 0:15:45 | 0:15:53 | |
textbooks, I read blogs, I found out as much information as I could. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
I contacted schools and Marianne was really keen that we went | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
to meet some teachers and some pupils and some families | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
who have experience of autism or Asperger's syndrome. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
Hello. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-Your room? -Well, this is my room. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
This is a map of London. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
I've recently become very interested in London boroughs. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
It may seem quite stereotypically autistic to a lot of people, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
but it is very fascinating knowing which district is in which borough. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
What's that list? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Oh, stuff that I need to remember to pack when I went up to Liverpool. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:44 | |
Toothbrush and toothpaste and CD, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
because it was my backing track for a poem that I performed then. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
I would also like to... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Why did you need a list? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
To help me remember. Why else?! | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Do you make lots of lists? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Um, yes, quite a lot. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Well, actually, it is my mum that makes them, if I'm honest. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
I went to a lot of different schools for autistic pupils | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
and one of the things which always stayed with me, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
which I think one of the teachers told me, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
was that it's like the water in the bath is always spilling, it's always about to spill | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
in someone like Christopher, and so, at any moment, you are | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
desperately trying to hold on to the bathwater and it is always about | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
to spill out because the world is so random to him and everything that is | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
not planned and everything that is not expected for him is scary. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
-Here we are. -Here we are. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
When we first did the workshop in here, that was four years ago. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
-This is in this room, isn't it? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Chris was being picked up in that. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
It looked much better when I saw it in the play. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
I kind of can understand why they left the bath bit out. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
I nicked little things off you, you know this, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
I have told you this before. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-Borrowed is how I would rather put it. -You what? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
-Borrowed. -Borrowed, yes, I didn't steal yours. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
But I borrowed some of the little things which I thought... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-That thing. -This. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
Can you explain that to us? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
-Flick this round... -I can, yes. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Basically, I am in my own world, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
I am playing a counting game in my head. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
I am making somebody older or making them younger, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
or, basically, I am counting from one extreme to another | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
like thinking of a word that is not offensive | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
and thinking of the worst word, or vice versa - | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
making it cleaner or dirtier or, you know... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Does it make you feel calmer? What's it called? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
It is called daydreaming, really. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
It is something that I do when I'm daydreaming. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
In the play, I think, for me, it became | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
something when I was very anxious or stressed. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-When I am anxious or stressed, I usually make noises, I do. -Right. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Well, Christopher makes noises. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
The noises were great, I could totally see myself in you | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
when you were performing. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
We had read about it in books, we had seen documentaries, but... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
-Well, you're hearing it from the horse's mouth. -Exactly. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-And, you know, I am using a... -Using a metaphor. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-I am using a metaphor there! -I know. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
When I was young, if you had said this... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
If I heard somebody say that about 20 or 15 years ago, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I would have said, "A horse's mouth? Horses don't talk! Neigh?! | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
"What does that mean to be people?!" | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
The second main reason I find people confusing is that people | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
often talk using metaphors. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
The word metaphor means carrying something from one place to another. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:07 | |
And it is when you describe something by using | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
a word for something that it isn't. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
This means that the word metaphor is a metaphor. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
When we look at Christopher, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
we could say that he is at the high functioning end | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
of the autism spectrum, and it is a very broad spectrum. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Intellectually, he is very gifted, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
he is even precocious in some subjects, like mathematics. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
But if you analysed his communication, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
even then you would realise that despite the presence of language, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
he still has communication difficulties. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
One example of that is taking language very literally. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
So assuming that what people say is what they mean, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
whereas a typical child, very early on, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
understands that what people say isn't always true. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
They might be joking, they might be using language in a figurative way, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
idioms or metaphor. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Christopher is taking words as literal | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
and that's very common in people with Asperger's syndrome. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
They don't see the point of some kind of gap between what you say | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
and what you mean. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Mother died two years ago. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
I came home from school one day and no-one answered the door, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
so I went and found the secret key that we keep under | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
a flowerpot outside the kitchen window. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
'It is all a metaphor. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
'I think that the death of Wellington the dog' | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
and the way that Christopher feels about that and then obsesses | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
about it and decides to become a detective to work out who killed | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
the dog is all a metaphor for how he feels about the loss of his mum. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
What was your mother like? Do you remember much about her? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
I remember 20th July 2008. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
I was nine years old. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
It was a Saturday. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
We were on holiday in Cornwall on the beach in a place called Polperro. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
-PA: -The next Manhattan-bound local train | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
will arrive in approximately two minutes. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
I grew up in England from when I was 7 until I was 18. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
I went to school there in Devon. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
But the rest of my life, I've been travelling. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
First seven years of my life, I grew up in a caravan | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
travelling around the United States and Canada and Europe with my family, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
obviously, not on my own, that would be impressive! | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
This is my first job. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
-How does it feel? -Awesome! | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
I'm sorry. Your mother's died. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
She's had a heart attack. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:49 | |
It wasn't expected. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
What kind of heart attack? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
I don't know what kind of heart attack. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Now isn't the moment, Christopher, to be asking questions like that. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
It was probably an aneurysm. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
The death of the dog is connected somehow, possibly... | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
well, definitely subconsciously | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
in Christopher's head to the death of his mum. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
If he discovers who killed Wellington, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
he will then discover the truth about his mum. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
It is a transference of grief, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
so his mum has died, he hasn't been able to grieve | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
because he doesn't know how to, he doesn't talk about it. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
The dog is dead and he starts to really properly investigate | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
and mourn that. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
My situation was an absolute nightmare. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Because when he got about two or three, I knew there was | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
something wrong because he couldn't communicate good. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
I mean, like, when you go on the street, we would see neighbours | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
and they would say, "Hi, how are you today?" | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
He would just stand there and look at them. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
You know, I've always been intuitive with my son | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
and I would tell him what to say, and just looking at him, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
I could tell he just did not know how to have a conversation. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
So I told his doctor, and the problem I had was, he looked normal | 0:25:36 | 0:25:44 | |
so the doctor didn't think anything was wrong. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
His teachers didn't think anything was wrong, they thought | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
he will grow out of it once he starts school, he will be fine. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
No, that did not happen. I was not able to get a diagnosis until | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
-he was 11. -What was his life like in school prior to the diagnosis? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
Nightmare. It was an absolute nightmare. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
Accused of poor behaviour? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Yes, the teacher locked him out of the classroom, he was bullied, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
his life was threatened and I fought, I fought the board of ed | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
and I fought and fought and finally I was able to get him | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
in private school, but it is still a struggle, every day is a struggle. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
I am not going to say it's easy. It's not. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
What can I say? He is my son. I'll do the best I can. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
What was your mother like? Can you remember much about her? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
I remember 20th July 2008. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
I was nine years old. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
It was a Saturday. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
We were on holiday in Cornwall. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
We were on a beach in a place called Polperro. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
The routine of having a mother figure is broken. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
And Christopher lives in patterns, in a world of patterns, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
so he knows he comes home at this time | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
and he does this at this time, and once the mother figure | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
has disappeared from his life, his routine is shattered. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
So if he can reconnect to that and form some sort of routine, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
waking up at this time, going to school | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
and doing these things at this time, then life is perfect. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Life is fine because it fits into nice compartmentalised boxes. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
Sunday, you are going to wake up. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
You are going to do... What next? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Wee-wee, brush your teeth. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Get dressed. Have breakfast. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-What do you want for breakfast? -Um... Cream toast. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
For breakfast?! | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
-And honey toast. -OK. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
When you are on the autistic spectrum, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
routines can be very important, because if you have difficulties | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
with social imagination, if you find it difficult to know | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
what is going to happen next, then having a routine is really | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
comforting because you don't have to worry about anything unexpected. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
-Let's do three more, Mummy, and then we will be done. -OK. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
People on the autistic spectrum often have difficulties with | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
flexibility of thought. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
It is as if you are a train on a train track | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and going along a single train track, and suddenly a huge | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
brick wall has appeared in front of you and you can't go backwards. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
All you can do is smash into this wall and you can't go any further. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Whereas a nearer typical person would see lots of different routes | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
that one could take instead, so that you could go around the wall | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and you could carry on, but that isn't the way that many | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
autistic people are able to think. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
-How do you like it? -Just white, thanks. No sugar. -Yeah, same, please. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
Routine, the basics of what is happening when, how, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
with whom, are kind of... | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
It is at the centre of his everything. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
It is the fear of the unknown. It's terrifying for him. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
At two and a half - two and a half - when I would pick him up | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
from nursery, it was a ten-minute drive home | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
and one day I turned left, I went on a different route | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
instead of turning right, and he started screaming. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
From a quiet car to screaming his little heart out | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
and I worked out quite soon after, once I knew about... | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
that's what it was, because he must have been taking a photographic | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
image of the roads and memorising it to comfort himself | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
and I didn't go that way, and he just...couldn't handle it. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
He eventually got diagnosed when he was three and four months or something. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
There was a relief that there is a specific condition this boy | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
has got and a reason for all the behaviours. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
It wasn't me not weaning him properly. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
He was fussy with food, there was a lot of guilt, why is he like...? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
Did I not engage with him properly? Did I not...? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Constantly going on websites about what is meant to happen next. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
Oh, God, I didn't do that. Is it my fault? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
-What would he like, then? -Oh, he would like to go on a bus. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
If I say, "Let's go on a bus," he will be great. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
"Let's go on the 82 to Victoria." He will know every stop from Finchley. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
-It takes three hours. -What do you mean, he knows everything? | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
He knows the name of the stop? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Of each stop and the number and the sounds. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
You will hear him at bedtime reciting back, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
"The next stop is Victoria Park." | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
Buses and trains are everything because he can control | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
the stimulation of the sound of the roads. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
He loves... Lampposts is his current passion. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-FATHER: -Christopher... Do you understand that I love you? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
The thing that comes out so strongly with you two and I think in the play | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
is that the love is never in question, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
but it is how you deal with that. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
-Presumably, you give love but you don't get it back. -No, you don't. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
It is not love in the way that you've expected it, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
whatever expectations you've got as a parent. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
It is certainly not what I expected. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
But that tiny, tiny little thing will happen... | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
A little bit of progress or... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
It's funny, that in the play, when he puts his hand up. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
We naturally do that with Isaac. It is massive. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
I asked my parents whether they felt that I didn't love them | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
like other children did and whether they felt unloved | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
or if they felt having an autistic child was bad in some way. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:14 | |
And they said that they felt that people, when they have kids, that maybe | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
they have different expectations, but they just had an expectation | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
they would have a live baby and that was all that was important | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
so whatever I did didn't really matter. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Taste? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
Orange juice. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
-Daddy. -Yeah. -I love you. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
I love you, too. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
Nice. I love you. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Do you know what? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
When we saw the chicken, was it a daddy or mummy? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
When we were on holiday. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
When we were on holiday, Mummy, when these boys were not here. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
Well, when we were on holiday, there was a daddy chicken | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
and he is called cockerel and he had all the red, all that red skin. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
-Was he a grown-up chicken? -He was a grown-up chicken. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
Which station is near the chicken's house? | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
You definitely know. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Maybe it's Falmouth. -Falmouth. That's right. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
We're on the train to Connecticut, Milford. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Connecticut to visit the set where that's being built. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
They've been painting all the panels | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
so today I need to check some of the paint finish on the panels, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
because last time I was there, it was a little bit shiny. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
And then they are raising them up | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
because they will start all the wiring into the back of them | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
so that all the LEDs and pixels | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
and everything get put into all of that, so the whole kit can come into | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
the theatre ready wired and finished, and that is the idea, anyway! | 0:34:14 | 0:34:22 | |
Do you like computers? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
Yes, I like computers. I have a computer in my room. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
And I like maths and looking after Toby and I like outer space | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
and being on my own. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
-I bet you're very good at maths, aren't you? -Yes, I am. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
I'm ready to take my A-level maths next month | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
and I am going to get an A*. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
Now, that looks great. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
'It had to be a piece of imagination. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
'The more realistic you made it, the more domestic and clunky | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
'and heavy it felt...' | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
And as Christopher says in the play, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
he doesn't really like acting or plays because it is like a form | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
of lie, so we never wanted to make it seem like a form of a lie. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
It was clearly what it was, the props clearly displayed, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
the actors clearly displayed, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
and they're hopefully taking the audience with them on this highly | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
imaginative, suggestive, stylised way of telling Christopher's story. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
All of these lines have been routed out, so that's done by a computer, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
so it's really, really crisp and accurate, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
so it makes it look like graph paper. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Mr Boone, nobody has ever taken an A-level examination in the school before. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:55 | |
He can be the first, then. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
I don't know if we have the facilities at the school to allow him to do that. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Then get the facilities. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
Christopher could always do his A-levels later, when he is 18, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
which is, after all, the age everyone else takes their A-levels. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:09 | |
Christopher is getting a crap enough deal already - | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
don't you think? - without you shitting on him | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
from a great height as well. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
Jesus! This is the one thing he is really good at. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Christopher does have probably different relationships | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
to your typical 15-year-old, so he has a good relationship with his rat, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:29 | |
Toby, but also he thinks about maths a lot | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
and in some ways I would have said he has a relationship with maths. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
It is what he finds comforting, it is what he turns to when he is stressed. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
I suppose a bit like a comforting blanket, or perhaps you would go | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
to your parents more often. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
128, 256, 512, 1024... | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
We also see in Christopher that he loves patterns, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
being able to recite prime numbers, because the sequence never changes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
A prime number will always be a prime number | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
and there must be something quite reassuring for people with autism | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
that they want to find their solid anchors in the world. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:14 | |
And what seems to be the case is that a lot of that circuitry | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
for making sense of the social world, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
the brain-based circuitry for being able to anticipate | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
another person's reactions, being able to read someone else's emotions, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
seems to not be functioning in the very intuitive or natural way. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
So the social world becomes a world of confusion | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
and unpredictability, whereas the world of repetition, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
the world of objects, the world of numbers, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
becomes the much safer, more predictable world. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
I think I would make a very good astronaut. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
To be a good astronaut, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
you have to be intelligent, and I'm intelligent. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
You also have to understand how machines work, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
and I'm good at understanding how machines work. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
You also have to be someone who would like being on their own | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
in a tiny spacecraft thousands and thousands of miles from the surface | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
of the Earth and not panic or get claustrophobia | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
or homesick or insane, and I really like little spaces, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:25 | |
so long as there is no-one else in there with me. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
And I would be able to look out of the little window | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
in the spacecraft and know that there was no-one else | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
near me for thousands and thousands of... | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
-Christopher! -What? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
Could you please just... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
give it a bit of a break, mate? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
MUSIC: Astroboy by Adrian Sutton | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
When I'm in the middle of my thing, I get absolutely livid | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
when my mother calls me and interrupts me. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I always snap at her and say, "What?!" But... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
When they're in their zone. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
But I need to remember she's not trying to be a pain, either, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
the same way. Parents are trying to think the same way about us. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
It goes hand in hand. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Yeah, and that's probably just families, right? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
He can tell you any way you want to get... | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
He's memorised every bus stop in Manhattan. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
I mean, if you want to know if there's a stop on the north side | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
-or which side or in-between, he can tell you. -Wow. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
And I call that superhuman powers. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-I don't think that's... -I would like that. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
I don't think that's weird, I don't think it's a quirk, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
-I think it's awesome. -Yeah. -And that separates them from your typicals. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
I think it's awesome. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
If you want to get from here to, let's say, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
to Inwood - 207th Street, take the... Well, the 20. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
God knows when it'll come, but the train, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
I strongly suggest take the A train cos it's express. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
-Just take that straight up. -Really? -Straight up. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
See, the way I've been able to cope with him | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
and to help him is to try to always look through his eyes, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
even though I can't, but I know my son better than anyone | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
and when I get frustrated with him, I must always remember how | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
he sees things and that helps me to have patience with him. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
So do you guys know when we're going to see Curious Incident? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
It's, what, next week? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
-Yep, a week from today, so how do you think we're getting there? -Tube. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
So here's the theatre, OK? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
We're going to take the Northern Line to Leicester Square. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
So we take the Northern Line by Charing Cross, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
get off at Leicester Square | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
and then it's probably about a ten-minute walk from there. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
When you meet people with autism, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I think one thing you're struck by is how individual they are, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
that they're thinking in a very fresh way | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
and that they know what matters to them | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
and they pursue their interests with enormous passion. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
And one possibility is that for a typical child, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
they're trying to align their beliefs and their thoughts with other people, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
that part of being a typical child is conformism. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
Someone with autism, that might not be important. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
They have their own curiosity about what intrigues them. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
They like to pursue it in enormous detail and depth, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
so-called obsessions, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
but it also means that they're spotting things that other people | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
are missing, so they're asking very refreshing, very novel questions. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:28 | |
It gives them, if you like, an originality in how they think | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
and how they see the world. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
In some ways, people with autism are the ultimate anarchists. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
Good! | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
BOY CHEERS | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-Where is heaven?! -Sorry, Christopher? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
In our universe, whereabouts is it exactly? | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
It isn't in our universe, it's another kind of place altogether. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
There isn't anything outside our universe, Reverend Peters. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
There isn't another kind of place altogether. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
One of the first lines in the play, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
one of the first things he says is, "I do not tell lies." | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Actually, he does, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
he really does and he has the naughtiness of a 15-year-old. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
You know, he has the transgressive spirit of a 15-year-old, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
he's a little bit punk. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
Another thing he says is, "I don't always do what I'm told," | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
and I think in his quest for finding out the truth | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
of what's happened to his family, the determination to not always do | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
what he is told is tremendously attractive. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
And that's when I saw the envelope. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
It was an envelope addressed to me. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
I picked it up. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
It had never been opened. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
It said "Christopher Bloom, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
"36 Randolph Street, Swindon, Wiltshire." | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
And then I saw there were lots of envelopes and they were | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
all addressed to me and this was interesting and confusing and then | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
I saw how the words "Christopher" and "Swindon" were written. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
I only know three people who do little circles instead of dots | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
over the letter "I" and one of them is Siobhan | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
and one of them is Mr Loxley who used to teach at the school | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
and one of them... | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
was Mother. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:30 | |
Have either of you guys read the book? | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
You have, Alex? Oh, really? | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
Did you like it? | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
Do you remember what the story was about? | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
A 15-year-old boy who got tricked by his dad, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:53 | |
whose mother was dead, but she wasn't. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
And then I looked at the front of the envelope | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
and I saw there was a postmark and there was a date on the postmark | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
which meant the letter had been posted | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
on 16th October 2011... | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
..which was... | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
18 months after Mother had died. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
When I started writing my book, there was one mystery to solve. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:23 | |
Now, there were two. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
-OK, whenever you want... -OK. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
..come into the kitchen. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
-So, do you want to make the tea, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
-Do you want a sandwich? -Yes, please. Yes, I would like a sandwich. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
When Cian was very young, was he very different to other children? | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
What made you think...? | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
Cian talked a lot, talked a lot, and it wouldn't have occurred to me | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
that he was autistic because he was really good with words. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
He used to just seem very bright until he went to school | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
and then he didn't kind of fit in too well, did you? | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
-What was it like? -Oh, school was a nightmare. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
It was a very difficult period for me on so many levels. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
He was quite... | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
I wouldn't say normal, but I didn't really have any worries at home. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
It seemed to be at school that all these problems were coming up | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
because at home, Cian was pretty OK and a bit more relaxed. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Well, I remember being difficult at home, I do. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
Yeah, a little bit, but when they're your first child, you don't | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
know what to expect, anyway, so... | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
No, I didn't think there was anything wrong with Cian. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
I actually thought he was particularly bright. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
So it was a little bit of a shock when we did get the diagnosis. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
Yeah, but I would like to say there is nothing wrong with having autism, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
it's just an alternative way of being, as I like to say, you know. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:18 | |
Just something different rather than something wrong, would be | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
-a better way of putting it, I think. -Yeah, different, not wrong. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
Different, yeah. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
We know that autism isn't 100% genetic | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
so that means that there's room for environmental | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
or non-genetic factors | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
influencing why a person develops autism | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
and so that does mean there might be scope for environmental | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
interventions, too, and the question about intervention is actually | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
also a very ethical issue. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
Do we want to intervene to try to normalise the child's development | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
or do we want to respect that this is an individual, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
for neurological reasons, who's wired very differently | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
and we should let them be who they are? | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Not trying to change their development | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
but respect that they are different. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
I was expecting Conor when Cian was diagnosed. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
I thought that it was highly unlikely | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
that I'd have two children with autism | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
but they're like chalk and cheese | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
because Cian loves to talk, as you can tell... | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
-Oh, yeah, yeah. My brother is non-verbal. -So very, very different. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:33 | |
-Yeah. -They do some things the same, like when you get upset, you both... | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
-Self-harming, unfortunately. -And bite your hands. -Oh, God, yeah. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
-Show us your... -This is evidence, you know. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
Conor's got one of them as well, they both do it, like that. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Why do you do it? | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
-Oh, I can't really explain why, it's not really that simple. -Frustration? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
Frustration and anger and hating being different to other people. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:04 | |
451C Chapter Road, London, NW2 5NG. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:23 | |
"Dear Christopher... | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
"I said that I wanted to explain why I went away | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
"when I had the time to do it properly. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
"And now I have lots of time." | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
When Christopher's mother is reading the letters, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
Christopher is playing with trains. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
Christopher's using the trains to feel calm and relaxed | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
and also centred, you know, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
because trains are logical, cos they go on a track, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
but what he's hearing from his mother is not logical | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
cos he thinks that she's dead and so it's understandable | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
why Christopher would turn to something that's so logical. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
"I was not a very good mother, Christopher. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
"Maybe if things had been different, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
"maybe if you had been different, then I'd have been better at it, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
"but that's just the way things turned out." | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
Julie, Christopher's mother, before the play begins, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
has become completely overwhelmed with her circumstances and I think | 0:50:24 | 0:50:30 | |
it's mainly to do with the lack of any support or help and, you know, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:35 | |
the socioeconomic place that they live in, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
and so she's left struggling alone and becomes very overwhelmed. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
..London, NW2... | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
I know, as a parent, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | |
even without children with those kinds of challenges, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
there are definitely times when it's completely overwhelming | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
and so I don't judge her at all, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
I think she was in a life-or-death situation for herself. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
And after a while, we stopped talking to each other very much | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
because we knew it would always end up in an argument. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
And I felt...really lonely. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
It adds a dimension that he has this disability | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
but I don't think that that is really what the play is about. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
No, it just heightens the relationships | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
and makes the stakes much higher, but it ultimately is about family. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:29 | |
Yes. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
Christopher, what on earth has happened to you? | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
Would you look after Toby for me? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Why do you need somebody to look after Toby, Christopher? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
-I'm going to London. -So, are you and your father moving house? -No. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
-So why are you going to London? -I'm going to live with Mother. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
I thought you told me your mother was dead. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
I thought she was dead, but she was still alive | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
-and Father lied to me and... -So are you going to London on your own? | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
I think I am going to do that, yes. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
He's never been outside of his street on his own, ever. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
He's very in love with his train set | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
but it's what he imagines a train to be, it's not reality, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
so when he actually does go on his journey, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
everything he encounters is new and frightening and confusing. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:23 | |
It's about all of us encountering things that we find overwhelming | 0:52:23 | 0:52:28 | |
and confusing and feeling that fear, but driving through anyway. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:35 | |
ANNOUNCER: ..Western service to London Paddington. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
What are you doing at the railway station? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
Oh, I'm going to see Mother. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
-I want to go to London. -Single or return? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
What does single or return mean? | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
For Christopher, getting the train to London was the biggest event | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
of his life up to then, really, I think. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
SOUND EFFECT OF TRAIN DOORS OPENING PLAYS | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Is this train going to London? | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
Yeah, it's a huge odyssey. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
It takes a huge amount of bravery and bottle for him | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
to get on that train | 0:53:17 | 0:53:18 | |
and survive the train ride hiding in the toilets and the luggage racks. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
Because just lots of loud noises on the trains and, you know, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
the sound of the engine starting and the voices on the trains... | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
Cos I used to be very scared of a man's voice on the train | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
when I was young. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:37 | |
I used to think it sounded like a robot. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
It's an important part, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
because, you know, he's going all the way from Swindon to London | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
to meet his mother. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:50 | |
Even though he has a slight fear of going on trains, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
he's willing to do that because he loves his mother so much. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
Most other people are lazy. They never look at everything. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
They do what's called glancing, which is the same word | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
for bumping off something | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
and carrying on in almost the same direction. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
But if I am standing | 0:54:09 | 0:54:10 | |
and looking out of a window of a train into the countryside, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
I notice everything, like, one, there are 19 cows in the field, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
five of which are black and white | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
and four of which are brown and white. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
Two, there is a verge in the distance with 31 visible houses | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
and a square tower, not a spire. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
Three, there are ridges in the field, which means, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
in medieval times, it was called a ridge and furrow field | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
and people from the village would have a ridge each to do farming. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
We can now look at the structure and the function of the brain in someone | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
with autism compared to a typical person | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
and there are many differences that emerge. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
The brain in autism is developing faster than a typical brain. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:48 | |
It's ending up larger than a typical brain. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
You can see more neurons or nerve cells | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
and more connections between those nerve cells | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
so one interesting view is that the nerves are kind of over-connected | 0:54:58 | 0:55:04 | |
which may lead to a sort of information overload... | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
Six, there's a white Reebok trainer in one corner of the field. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
There's a public footwalk sign with graffiti on it. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
There's a gate, hedge, telephone poles... | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
..and that could be advantageous, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
it could be that that means that the autistic brain is picking up | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
more detail so that when it's looking at a problem, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
trying to understand, for example, a mathematics problem, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
it can pick up more information, more variables, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
to really try to understand that system. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
But it could also mean that as you're just going on your normal day, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
you're picking up too much information - | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
every blade of grass, every leaf in the tree. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
You're not necessarily seeing the big picture. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
You're zooming in on tiny details and that that could interfere with being | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
able to make an ordinary decision, like what to say in a conversation. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:56:05 | 0:56:06 | |
I waited for nine more minutes, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:09 | |
but no-one else came past and the train was really quiet | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
and I did not move again, so I realised the train had stopped. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
And I knew the last stop on the train was London, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
so I got off the train. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
CHRISTOPHER YELLS | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Where is 451C Chapter Road, London, NW2 5NG? | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
Take the Tube to Willesden Junction or Willesden Green. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
Got to be near there somewhere. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
In a few minutes, we're going to be leaving. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
The show starts at 2.30 and we all know how to behave on the Tube. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
Stay close by to staff members, don't talk to strangers. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
So we're going to be taking the Northern Line to Leicester Square. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
You all know how to act in a theatre, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
there should be no talking, not even whispering | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
because it's really disruptive to other audience members. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
No standing up, sitting properly on your seats. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
-Yes, because the world is your oyster. -Did you bring me my snacks? | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
-CHRISTOPHER: -Train coming. Train stopped. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
Doors open. Train going. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
HE HUMS LOUDLY | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
Train going. Train stopped. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
Doors open. Train going. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
HE HUMS | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
Train coming. Train stopped. Doors open. Train coming. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
Train stopped. Doors open. Train going. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
MAN SHOUTS, TRAIN SHRIEKS PAST | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
Let's go. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:56 | |
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
-It's beautiful. -This way. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
They're going that way. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
I'm confused. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
Right, let's go this way. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
-Stuffy in here. -Yeah. -I think it's going to give me a headache. -OK. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
LOUD RHYTHMIC MUSIC AND CHATTER | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
THUDDING MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:58:25 | 0:58:26 | |
BOOM! SHRIEKING | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
THUDDING AND PIERCING MUSIC | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
QUIET ELECTRONIC HUMMING | 0:58:42 | 0:58:44 | |
-I suppose this means Ed's here. -Where's your father, Christopher? | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
-I think he's in Swindon. -Thank God for that. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:03 | |
But how did you get here? | 0:59:03 | 0:59:05 | |
-I came on the train. -Oh, my God, Christopher! | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
I didn't... I didn't think I'd ever... | 0:59:10 | 0:59:14 | |
Come on, Christopher. Let's get you inside and get you dried off. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:17 | |
TRAIN WHISTLES, APPLAUSE | 0:59:17 | 0:59:20 | |
-Hi. -Hello. | 0:59:26 | 0:59:28 | |
-Amazing. -How did that go? -Well, that was amazing. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:32 | |
-Was it? -Yeah, really good. Wasn't it? | 0:59:32 | 0:59:36 | |
And what I didn't like about it was his dad telling a lie about his mum. | 0:59:36 | 0:59:42 | |
It was like pretending like she's dead, but she was not. | 0:59:42 | 0:59:46 | |
But his dad said she had a heart attack. | 0:59:46 | 0:59:48 | |
That was a lie and a fib. I wouldn't say that. | 0:59:48 | 0:59:53 | |
-What did you guys think of Christopher? -I saw a lot of James. | 0:59:53 | 0:59:57 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
How could you think that, Tom(?) | 1:00:00 | 1:00:02 | |
THEY TALK AT ONCE | 1:00:02 | 1:00:04 | |
It... Basically, because James is brilliant at maths. And... | 1:00:04 | 1:00:09 | |
But I also saw... | 1:00:09 | 1:00:10 | |
He has a calculator with him everywhere he goes. | 1:00:10 | 1:00:13 | |
-WOMAN: -In his head. | 1:00:13 | 1:00:14 | |
-Also... -In his bag. -And in my head! | 1:00:14 | 1:00:17 | |
I only use the one in my bag for backup. | 1:00:17 | 1:00:20 | |
Now, the exam is going to last for 90 minutes, Christopher. OK? | 1:00:28 | 1:00:34 | |
First thing you do, pop your name on the front, OK, young man? | 1:00:34 | 1:00:38 | |
Did you see similarities between yourself and him? | 1:00:40 | 1:00:42 | |
Loads. | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
Absolutely loads. | 1:00:44 | 1:00:46 | |
-As Tom said, it's basically me. -Yeah. -It's basically just me. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:51 | |
Should a triangle with sides that can be written | 1:00:51 | 1:00:54 | |
in the form "n squared + 1..."? | 1:00:54 | 1:00:57 | |
GIRL: I am good at maths myself, though. | 1:00:57 | 1:00:59 | |
I think I'm quite good at maths. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:01 | |
-I'm OK at maths. -You're tolerable. | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
-No, no, you're good. You're also very good. -You are very good, Tom. | 1:01:04 | 1:01:09 | |
-Thank you. -It's just I don't really know, | 1:01:09 | 1:01:11 | |
because you're doing much easier stuff. | 1:01:11 | 1:01:13 | |
So, to...from my perspective - I don't mean to be rude or anything - | 1:01:13 | 1:01:16 | |
-but from my perspective, it's looking like you're really stupid. -Yeah. | 1:01:16 | 1:01:19 | |
-But that's only because I am so much... -Cos you're doing... | 1:01:19 | 1:01:22 | |
-..I am so much further advanced. -..the higher... -Papers... | 1:01:22 | 1:01:24 | |
-Yeah. -..and stuff. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:26 | |
-You're doing basic algebra. -Yeah. | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
I am doing simultaneous and quadratic equations. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
AMBIENT ELECTRONIC MUSIC | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
-DAD: -I wanted to ask you how the exam went. | 1:01:38 | 1:01:41 | |
Tell him, Christopher. Please. | 1:01:43 | 1:01:46 | |
I don't know if I got all the questions right, | 1:01:51 | 1:01:53 | |
because I was very tired and I hadn't eaten | 1:01:53 | 1:01:55 | |
and I couldn't think properly. | 1:01:55 | 1:01:57 | |
Thank you. | 1:02:05 | 1:02:06 | |
-What for? -Just... | 1:02:09 | 1:02:11 | |
Thank you. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:14 | |
I'm very proud of you, Christopher. | 1:02:14 | 1:02:17 | |
Very proud. I'm sure you did really well. | 1:02:17 | 1:02:22 | |
DOORBELL | 1:02:22 | 1:02:24 | |
All right, Alex, come on in. | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
So, yeah, if you sit there, that's great. | 1:02:32 | 1:02:35 | |
DOOR SHUTS I'll come and sit next to you. | 1:02:35 | 1:02:37 | |
I wanted to ask you... You've seen the play? | 1:02:39 | 1:02:41 | |
I have seen the play. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
And I wondered whether you identified with any aspect | 1:02:43 | 1:02:46 | |
of Christopher's experiences? | 1:02:46 | 1:02:48 | |
For example, he loved maths, and that he was talented at maths. | 1:02:48 | 1:02:52 | |
Can you say something a bit about, you know, your...? | 1:02:52 | 1:02:55 | |
-It was something of a sanctuary with me for school, actually. -Right. | 1:02:55 | 1:02:58 | |
And what is it about numbers for you? | 1:02:58 | 1:03:01 | |
Well, it isn't numbers for me. | 1:03:01 | 1:03:02 | |
I mean, I'm not good at mental arithmetic. | 1:03:02 | 1:03:04 | |
I think, for me, it's algebraic structure. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:08 | |
-And certain proofs can appear beautiful to me. -Yeah. | 1:03:08 | 1:03:13 | |
And I... I've done supervisions at Cambridge, | 1:03:13 | 1:03:16 | |
and this came up one time. | 1:03:16 | 1:03:18 | |
And I was proving some theorem, | 1:03:18 | 1:03:21 | |
I mean, a standard proof for the student. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:25 | |
And I was sort of getting enthusiastic, | 1:03:25 | 1:03:28 | |
and... Because it does look really beautiful to me. | 1:03:28 | 1:03:31 | |
And the student said, "I don't think I can appreciate it | 1:03:31 | 1:03:33 | |
"the way you do." | 1:03:33 | 1:03:35 | |
How are you getting on with your father? | 1:03:42 | 1:03:44 | |
He brought me a book which is called Further Maths For A-Level. | 1:03:44 | 1:03:48 | |
He told Mrs Gascoyne I was going to take Further Maths next year. | 1:03:48 | 1:03:51 | |
She said, "OK." | 1:03:51 | 1:03:53 | |
THEY LAUGH | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
I'm going to pass it and get an A*, | 1:03:55 | 1:03:57 | |
and then in two years' time, I'll take A-level Physics and get an A*. | 1:03:57 | 1:04:00 | |
And then I'll go to university in another town and... | 1:04:00 | 1:04:03 | |
It doesn't have to be in London, because...I don't like London. | 1:04:03 | 1:04:06 | |
And I can have my own flat with a garden and a proper toilet. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:10 | |
And I can take Sandy and my books and my computer. | 1:04:10 | 1:04:13 | |
And then I will get a First Class Honours Degree, | 1:04:13 | 1:04:16 | |
and then I will be a scientist. | 1:04:16 | 1:04:18 | |
What has the experience been like? Have you enjoyed the PhD? | 1:04:27 | 1:04:30 | |
Er, yes and no. | 1:04:30 | 1:04:33 | |
I think that there's been a lot of challenges along the way. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:37 | |
I feel privileged to have been given that opportunity. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:40 | |
Did you have any success in...? | 1:04:40 | 1:04:43 | |
Well, I've never published any papers, so the answer, I guess, is no. | 1:04:43 | 1:04:46 | |
-Um... -But... -I have submitted my thesis, so I got through it somehow. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:50 | |
Will you try and publish parts of your thesis? | 1:04:50 | 1:04:53 | |
Well, if-if I am given the help and encouragement. | 1:04:53 | 1:04:57 | |
If I'm left to my own devices, nothing is going to happen. | 1:04:57 | 1:05:01 | |
-Because? -Because I wouldn't know what to do. | 1:05:01 | 1:05:04 | |
I wouldn't know the first thing about it. | 1:05:04 | 1:05:07 | |
It would be like... | 1:05:07 | 1:05:08 | |
Well, like Christopher at Paddington or wherever he is. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:11 | |
-Just... -Right. -And even not that. | 1:05:11 | 1:05:13 | |
Because at least when he's at Paddington he knows... | 1:05:13 | 1:05:15 | |
He has some objective. He has... He has a battle to fight, whereas... | 1:05:15 | 1:05:19 | |
-Sure. -..for me it would be... | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
-I'd just drift. I'd just drift away. -OK. | 1:05:22 | 1:05:25 | |
But what about your life as a student in Cambridge? | 1:05:25 | 1:05:29 | |
Um, well, socialising has been very challenging. | 1:05:29 | 1:05:33 | |
I just feel out of place. | 1:05:33 | 1:05:35 | |
-And I feel alienated. -Hm. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:38 | |
And I do sometimes think that there's - | 1:05:38 | 1:05:40 | |
I mean, it'll sound perhaps self-pitying to say this, | 1:05:40 | 1:05:44 | |
but it's how I sometimes feel - | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
that there's not really a place for me in this society. | 1:05:46 | 1:05:50 | |
Yeah. | 1:05:50 | 1:05:51 | |
So it's not because I want to be like that, | 1:05:51 | 1:05:54 | |
it's not because I want to live only in the immediate present. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:57 | |
It's because I think I'm struggling as best I can | 1:05:57 | 1:06:00 | |
-and that's where I find myself. -Yeah. | 1:06:00 | 1:06:02 | |
Again, maybe paradoxically, | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
getting the diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome... | 1:06:05 | 1:06:07 | |
-It may help. -It may help, because it puts you into a community. | 1:06:07 | 1:06:11 | |
Very much so. I've already experienced a little bit of that. | 1:06:11 | 1:06:14 | |
Yeah. And that although you've had your own unique history, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:18 | |
you know, the feelings that you're describing of being | 1:06:18 | 1:06:23 | |
something of an outsider to society | 1:06:23 | 1:06:27 | |
is something that most people with Asperger's describe, | 1:06:27 | 1:06:30 | |
and that actually meeting other people | 1:06:30 | 1:06:32 | |
who've got that same sense, | 1:06:32 | 1:06:33 | |
it might actually allow you to connect. | 1:06:33 | 1:06:36 | |
-Well, it's already helped. -Good. | 1:06:36 | 1:06:38 | |
-I mean, I think... It gives me hope... -Yeah. | 1:06:38 | 1:06:40 | |
..I think is the way to put it. | 1:06:40 | 1:06:42 | |
You want to go to university? | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
-JAMES: -Yeah. -What do you want to do? | 1:06:47 | 1:06:49 | |
I'm... I'm hoping to go to Oxford... | 1:06:49 | 1:06:52 | |
..to... probably to do Spanish, maths and... | 1:06:54 | 1:06:59 | |
um... | 1:06:59 | 1:07:00 | |
something I'm not entirely sure if it exists. But... | 1:07:00 | 1:07:04 | |
-What? -I know. I think lots of things that don't really exist. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:08 | |
Like, editing or something. | 1:07:08 | 1:07:10 | |
-THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER -The decisions of English language. | 1:07:10 | 1:07:14 | |
James is a real pedant. | 1:07:14 | 1:07:16 | |
He can spot, like, a mistake in, like, a teacher's slide show. | 1:07:16 | 1:07:22 | |
If you go to Oxford, what would you want to do after that, do you think? | 1:07:22 | 1:07:26 | |
-Get a job, probably. -Doing what? | 1:07:26 | 1:07:28 | |
I want to be either a spy or an editor. | 1:07:28 | 1:07:32 | |
-I know! -Two... -Very different jobs. -Very different... -Exactly. | 1:07:32 | 1:07:36 | |
-..ends of the spectrum. -One is the fallback. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:38 | |
But then I can't work out which one is going to be the fallback. | 1:07:38 | 1:07:40 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTER | 1:07:42 | 1:07:45 | |
-Have you ever seen Gravity? -I have. -Is it any good? | 1:07:46 | 1:07:50 | |
It's excellent. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:51 | |
I've heard it's basically won acclaim for its visual effects | 1:07:51 | 1:07:53 | |
and the performances and the special effects, the music. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:57 | |
-So go and see it. It's really good. -Really? | 1:07:57 | 1:07:59 | |
-You've got quite high-achieving kids here, some of them. -I have. | 1:08:03 | 1:08:06 | |
So, kids who are taking exams... | 1:08:06 | 1:08:09 | |
Do you think they might go on to have careers of some kind, | 1:08:09 | 1:08:12 | |
-or might go to college? -I think we can find a career for all of them. | 1:08:12 | 1:08:15 | |
We just have to find the right career. | 1:08:15 | 1:08:17 | |
For some of them, it will be a less sociable career. | 1:08:19 | 1:08:23 | |
That doesn't mean they won't contribute and give their 100%. | 1:08:23 | 1:08:26 | |
I mean, particularly for our students, | 1:08:26 | 1:08:28 | |
when they're motivated by something, | 1:08:28 | 1:08:30 | |
they're really motivated by something. | 1:08:30 | 1:08:32 | |
So they usually do an incredibly thorough job. | 1:08:32 | 1:08:35 | |
-CHRISTOPHER: -And I can have my own flat with a garden | 1:08:43 | 1:08:45 | |
and a proper toilet. | 1:08:45 | 1:08:46 | |
And I can take Sandy and my books and my computer. | 1:08:46 | 1:08:49 | |
And then I'll get a First Class Honours Degree | 1:08:49 | 1:08:52 | |
and then I will be a scientist. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:54 | |
-I can do these things. -I hope so. | 1:08:56 | 1:08:59 | |
So now what are your ambitions, do you think? | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
Do you want to be an actor? Do you want...? What sort of thing...? | 1:09:03 | 1:09:06 | |
I want to be a performer. I do. | 1:09:06 | 1:09:07 | |
-Would you like to live on your own, for instance? -Of course. | 1:09:07 | 1:09:10 | |
And my mum... | 1:09:10 | 1:09:12 | |
You'd love me to live on my own! | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
But that's the trouble. You see, it's hard for people | 1:09:14 | 1:09:16 | |
with learning difficulties to live... | 1:09:16 | 1:09:18 | |
to live independent lives. | 1:09:18 | 1:09:21 | |
I find it hard to kind of understand about | 1:09:21 | 1:09:24 | |
how to pay, when... | 1:09:24 | 1:09:26 | |
Basically, problems with money. | 1:09:26 | 1:09:28 | |
And also, you know, | 1:09:28 | 1:09:30 | |
I need to seriously get better at cooking if I want to live on my own. | 1:09:30 | 1:09:33 | |
Seriously. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:34 | |
You have a bit of trouble sort of focusing on tasks. | 1:09:34 | 1:09:37 | |
Oh, yes. I do, I do. Cos I've got all kinds of rubbish | 1:09:37 | 1:09:41 | |
-flowing through my mind. -You want to talk all the time. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
I want to talk about some really...some pretty dark stuff | 1:09:44 | 1:09:47 | |
-and it's not very... -Sometimes you need to, you know, | 1:09:47 | 1:09:49 | |
if you're going to cook, | 1:09:49 | 1:09:51 | |
you need to focus on what you're doing. You really need to... | 1:09:51 | 1:09:53 | |
Talking about the kind of stuff | 1:09:53 | 1:09:55 | |
that most people would not dream of talking to their mum. Yeah. | 1:09:55 | 1:09:59 | |
But it's all about being alienated, really, at the end of the day. | 1:09:59 | 1:10:03 | |
How do you mean? | 1:10:03 | 1:10:05 | |
Oh... Um, just seeing other people | 1:10:05 | 1:10:08 | |
with nice, normal lives, living independently, | 1:10:08 | 1:10:11 | |
and getting really angry cos I'm not having that. | 1:10:11 | 1:10:14 | |
Seeing other people have nice, romantic relationships, | 1:10:14 | 1:10:18 | |
and me struggling to have one. Me, basically, not having one. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:21 | |
That's one thing that makes me angry. Yeah. | 1:10:21 | 1:10:25 | |
-CHRISTOPHER: -I can do these things. I can. | 1:10:29 | 1:10:32 | |
Cos I went to London on my own. | 1:10:32 | 1:10:35 | |
And I found my mother. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:37 | |
I was brave. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:39 | |
-SIOBHAN: -You were. | 1:10:39 | 1:10:41 | |
-And I wrote a book. -I know. I read it. | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
We turned it into a play. | 1:10:45 | 1:10:48 | |
Yes. | 1:10:48 | 1:10:49 | |
Does that mean I can do anything, do you think? | 1:10:51 | 1:10:54 | |
-EXCITEDLY: -Does that mean I can do anything, Siobhan? | 1:10:57 | 1:11:00 | |
-SOBERLY: -Does that mean I can do anything, Siobhan? | 1:11:02 | 1:11:04 | |
Does that mean I can do anything? | 1:11:06 | 1:11:08 | |
'Christopher is so brave. He's incredibly intelligent | 1:11:14 | 1:11:18 | |
'and really resourceful, and highly instinctive, | 1:11:18 | 1:11:21 | |
'and he does all these extraordinary things,' | 1:11:21 | 1:11:23 | |
and he gets to the bottom of... | 1:11:23 | 1:11:26 | |
the lies that have been spun around him for his own protection. | 1:11:26 | 1:11:29 | |
And yet when he says at the end, "I can do anything, can't I, | 1:11:31 | 1:11:35 | |
"cos I did this?" and, "Wasn't that brilliant that I did this?" | 1:11:35 | 1:11:38 | |
you know that, actually, he can't do anything. | 1:11:38 | 1:11:41 | |
And the piece has shown you quite clearly that | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
he can get himself in quite serious scrapes just on one encounter | 1:11:44 | 1:11:48 | |
with one person, and it all goes horribly wrong. | 1:11:48 | 1:11:51 | |
-Is this your first play on Broadway? -Yeah. | 1:12:13 | 1:12:16 | |
How does that feel? | 1:12:16 | 1:12:17 | |
Broadway can be savage. | 1:12:17 | 1:12:19 | |
There are apocryphal stories of plays closing within 48 hours, | 1:12:19 | 1:12:23 | |
and you just don't know, you just don't know. | 1:12:23 | 1:12:27 | |
But I kind of love that element of risk. | 1:12:27 | 1:12:31 | |
If I'm really honest, I think that is kind of exciting. | 1:12:31 | 1:12:35 | |
-PA SYSTEM: -'Good evening, everybody.' | 1:12:35 | 1:12:37 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Hello. | 1:12:37 | 1:12:39 | |
How's it been going? | 1:12:39 | 1:12:42 | |
Good. Really good. | 1:12:42 | 1:12:43 | |
This is the last push. Get through this, get through the gala... | 1:12:45 | 1:12:49 | |
-Yeah. -..and life will be a bit more normal. -Yeah. | 1:12:49 | 1:12:52 | |
-How are you guys? -Fine. | 1:12:52 | 1:12:54 | |
-Welcome back. -Thank you very much. -Nice to see you. I'll see you soon. | 1:12:54 | 1:12:58 | |
Does that mean I can do anything, Siobhan? | 1:13:02 | 1:13:05 | |
Does that mean I can do anything, Siobhan? | 1:13:09 | 1:13:12 | |
Does that mean I can do anything? | 1:13:16 | 1:13:19 | |
-ALEX SHARP: -This play is about a young person who is different | 1:13:35 | 1:13:40 | |
and who is misunderstood, | 1:13:40 | 1:13:43 | |
and I just want to dedicate this | 1:13:43 | 1:13:45 | |
to any young person out there | 1:13:45 | 1:13:47 | |
who feels misunderstood, or who feels different | 1:13:47 | 1:13:50 | |
and answer that question at the end of the play for you. | 1:13:50 | 1:13:53 | |
"Does that mean that I can do anything?" Yes, it does. | 1:13:53 | 1:13:57 | |
# Somewhere over the rainbow | 1:13:58 | 1:14:04 | |
# Way up high | 1:14:06 | 1:14:09 | |
# And the dreams that you dream of | 1:14:09 | 1:14:15 | |
# Once in a lullaby...by... | 1:14:15 | 1:14:23 | |
# Somewhere over the rainbow | 1:14:23 | 1:14:28 | |
# Bluebirds... # | 1:14:30 | 1:14:32 | |
I think one of the reasons why quite a lot of people | 1:14:32 | 1:14:34 | |
empathise with Christopher is because they share | 1:14:34 | 1:14:38 | |
one or more parts of his character, | 1:14:38 | 1:14:40 | |
although in a large part they're not like him at all. | 1:14:40 | 1:14:42 | |
And I think that's because nearly all the individual aspects | 1:14:42 | 1:14:47 | |
of his character, of his behaviour, his beliefs, his principles, | 1:14:47 | 1:14:51 | |
I have shamelessly stolen from people I know or people I've met. | 1:14:51 | 1:14:56 | |
He's not that different from everyone else. | 1:14:56 | 1:15:00 | |
I always say that choose any other human being | 1:15:00 | 1:15:04 | |
at random in the world | 1:15:04 | 1:15:07 | |
and you will have 99% of your humanity in common with them. | 1:15:07 | 1:15:11 | |
# ..Over the rainbow | 1:15:11 | 1:15:17 | |
# Bluebirds fly | 1:15:17 | 1:15:20 | |
# And the dreams that you dare to | 1:15:20 | 1:15:25 | |
# Oh, why, oh, why can't I? # | 1:15:25 | 1:15:30 | |
I think that Christopher potentially | 1:15:30 | 1:15:33 | |
could have a really exciting life. | 1:15:33 | 1:15:35 | |
And certainly at the end when he shows how he worked out | 1:15:35 | 1:15:37 | |
his maths formula, | 1:15:37 | 1:15:39 | |
he looks so happy that he is sharing what's so important to him. | 1:15:39 | 1:15:44 | |
And it's nice from the audience perspective to think, | 1:15:46 | 1:15:48 | |
"Well, maybe the neuro-typical people, non-autistic people, | 1:15:48 | 1:15:52 | |
"are going to understand now | 1:15:52 | 1:15:53 | |
"why things are so important to people on the autistic spectrum." | 1:15:53 | 1:15:57 | |
And rather than sort of mock people, which sometimes happens, | 1:15:57 | 1:16:00 | |
and bully people, actually, they've got something to offer in the world. | 1:16:00 | 1:16:03 | |
And I think that, you know, at the end | 1:16:03 | 1:16:05 | |
when Christopher says that he can do anything, I think that really... | 1:16:05 | 1:16:09 | |
I think that sums it up really well, because he could do anything. | 1:16:09 | 1:16:12 | |
And it's just about the people around him supporting him. | 1:16:12 | 1:16:15 | |
# ..Find me... | 1:16:15 | 1:16:17 | |
# Somewhere over the rainbow | 1:16:17 | 1:16:22 | |
# Bluebirds fly | 1:16:24 | 1:16:27 | |
# And the dreams that you dream of | 1:16:27 | 1:16:33 | |
# Oh, why, oh, why can't I...I...? | 1:16:33 | 1:16:41 | |
# Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh | 1:16:42 | 1:16:48 | |
# Ooh | 1:16:48 | 1:16:50 | |
# Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh... # | 1:16:51 | 1:16:55 |