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-Hello?

-Dave?

-Yes.

-It's Alan.

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-Hi, how are you, Alan?

-I'm fine.

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-So, is Mel in?

-Yes, he is, he's getting ready.

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What does that mean, he's getting ready?

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I think he was expecting you shortly.

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OK. What...? Is he expecting me at 2.00 or 2.30?

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Um...

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Probably two, but, um, maybe you're coming closer to two thirty?

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This programme contains some strong language.

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-Shelby?

-Yes?

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Where is he?

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I don't know.

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Hello? Hello?

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Hello!

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Peter! Where the hell is the thing on the screen?

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Right.

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Thank you, Peter!

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That's 20th Century Fox, in case you can't read,

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that's what it says.

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That's the best part of the picture, right there. I'm crazy about that guy.

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I love him! I can't get enough of him.

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Phil, raise the gate, for Christ's sake! Will you raise it up?

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Thank you, Phil. Agh!

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Julio, get me a half a dozen bagels!

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Julio! Pull up near the toilet, I have to pee.

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Julio!

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I'm going to take your licence away!

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Julio, hang on to that.

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-Mr Brooks?

-What?

-Do think we might get a chance to talk?

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-Who are you?

-The BBC.

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Oh, yes, that's right. The Bengal Broadcasting Company, right?

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-You're the Indian that was supposed to interview me?

-From London.

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-Oh, from London.

-Yes.

-Ah, what's your name?

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-Alan.

-Alan what?

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-Yentob.

-Are you a Jewish Indian? Ah, the best. All right, listen,

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-did you see Blazing Saddles?

-Oh, yes, I liked it a lot.

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I didn't get your money. I didn't get your ticket.

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-All right, look...

-Mr Brooks, how long will you be?

-I have to pee.

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Keep talking. Just keep talking.

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I'm a very busy man. Ask me questions, it's all right.

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Er...

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-Oh!

-Alan, Alan, Alan!

-Ah.

-Oh, Alan, I'm sorry.

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I may have some bad news for you. All right?

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Really, I mean it. I've been thinking.

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-I have been thinking.

-Thinking...

-I love you. I love what you do.

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I've always loved, you know...

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However, I've been thinking. I may not be able to do this.

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Listen, everybody you're close to...

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I'll be very honest about this, very honest. You know, you were very,

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very close to Orson Welles.

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Very close. And you saw him

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and you did a documentary on him, and then he died.

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And then Arthur Miller, the great... You know, Death Of A Salesman,

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the great View From The Bridge,

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one of the greatest playwrights of all time,

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and close to you, and then he died.

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Stanley Kubrick. Alan and Stanley. And then he died. So, I mean...

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You're just not good luck. I don't want to... I don't want

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-to take a chance on dying, you know?

-So, why didn't you tell me

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-before, before I came?

-It didn't occur to me!

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It occurred to me just as I walked in. I said, "This guy's

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"the kiss of death! Everybody, every time he gets close to somebody

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"and he...he does something with them, they die!"

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OK. I'm sorry, bye-bye.

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Eight, seven, six, five, four...

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-Can I help you?

-I got an appointment with the head of BBC Two. Yeah.

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Sir, well, have you got any sort of identification on yourself?

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-They're expecting me. They're expecting me inside.

-Sir, I'm afraid

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if you haven't got any identification, I can't let you in.

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All right. Look, I'm going to go out this way

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and then I'm just going to go here for a second.

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Fat guy!

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-Excuse me.

-Sorry?

-Excuse me. It's all right. Excuse me, excuse me.

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Innkeeper! I'm here. Mel Brooks, here to see the head of BBC Two.

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-Er, do you have an appointment?

-Call whoever the guy is, BBC Two,

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tell him Mel Brooks, here, waiting. Waiting to see the chief of BBC Two!

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I don't need an appointment. He'll be very thrilled to know I'm here.

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Hello, er, I have Mel Brooks in reception for you.

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-He'll probably want me in immediately!

-Er, yeah, hold on.

-OK.

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Er, would you like to take a seat, please?

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-Take a seat?

-Yeah, if you wouldn't mind waiting?

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Jesus! OK, I'll take a seat.

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SHOES SLAM DOWN ONTO TABLE

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This British television. Lakes, ponds, ducks, pigeons...weather.

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The weather in Lisbon. I've got to know if it's raining in Lisbon

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-in Portugal.

-Oh, Mr Yentob, there's a Mr Mel Brooks waiting for you.

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Is that the guy? Is that the guy?

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Hey! Hey! Hey, no, it's all right, they know me, they know me!

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MEL WHISTLES Hey, excuse me!

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-Are you the head of BBC Two?

-Yes.

-I'm Mel Brooks, I'm supposed to...

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You're supposed to do a documentary for The Late Show on me,

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-on Life Stinks.

-Yes, that's right.

-Wait a minute, don't I know you?

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-I don't think so.

-I've seen you before.

-No.

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-I seen this guy before!

-I just have to go in...

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Didn't you come to 20th Century Fox to do a documentary on me

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-about ten years ago?

-No, I don't think so.

-Yes!

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-Mel Brooks.

-No. Can I just go in here?

-I mean, you were nothing then!

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And now you're the head of BBC Two?

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I'm having a deja vu.

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VOICE ECHOES, HARP PLAYS Am I having a deja vu?

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What is all this shit?

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What have you done to my hallway?

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-Who are you?

-Electrician.

-Electrician?

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-Nobody behind here. What's going on here? I have things to do.

-You said

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to come back at three o'clock.

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I know! But you're not supposed to put all this shit in the hallway.

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I have big meetings with important Gentiles!

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I mean, this is a film studio! What is this crap doing here?

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-It's supposed to be neat and clean!

-This is supposed to be

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a special. I just thought we would just wait for you.

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A sp... All right. But how about a clean special?

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This is a filthy special. Is this the way you do things

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in England, just junk all over the halls? I'm surprised.

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Now, look. Are you...? He's taking pictures... There's a mic?

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All right, do me a favour. Cut out all the...

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You know, all the times I've said "shit", take that out,

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right? And, look, let me make another entrance, all right?

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Hello, hello!

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Oh! What the fuck, I'll risk it.

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I'll risk it. But remember, I'm doing this, um,

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because I would, you know...

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You know the Latin phrase "quid pro quo"? I do this for you.

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I do this for you, maybe you do a little something for me?

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A little something?

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You mention that I've got a show at the Garrick Theatre in the West End?

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-No, I...

-I know, I know! BBC.

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-Yeah, you can't really do that.

-I know, I'm not allowed to...

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All right. I won't say... I won't mention Young Frankenstein

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at the Garrick Theatre in the West End in London.

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-I won't mention it, I promise.

-No, just if you don't repeat

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-the name all the time.

-You can bleep it! You can bleep it.

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It'll be like... Look at me, it'll be like...

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HE MOUTHS

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-HARP PLAYS

-No, Mel, no, no. Mel!

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-It's such a bargain.

-Mel!

-It's the best show in town.

-Mel!

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-Please, I urge you, if there's a little old lady in your way...

-Mel!

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..throw her aside. Kick her in the ass,

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-get those tickets, they're very tough to get.

-Mel!

-What?

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-Alan? Alan Yentob is here.

-That's not right. That's not right!

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-Can you just...?

-What?

-It's not right.

-What's not right?

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You can't... It's the BBC, you can't plug the show like that.

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It's not the BBC plugging the show, I'm plugging the show!

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-I happen to be on the BBC.

-No, I know, I appreciate that.

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But you're not... We're not allowed to do commercials for...

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You're afraid it's going to become the Brooks Broadcasting Company,

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right? You're afraid that the BBC is going to segue into

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-the shit house because I'm taking over?

-No, no... Not at all, not at all.

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We're very respectful. But the other thing is that we need

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to do a promotion for BBC.... This is on BBC Four.

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You're doing a promotion for BBC, right?

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I'm doing a promotion for The Producers. Why do you think

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-I would do this junk?

-You haven't put the cards up.

-What?

-The cards,

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-Mel.

-There's something on the other side, right? Sorry about that.

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-That's it.

-Why do you give me these cheap cardboard...?

-Could you place them...?

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You mean like this? You want me to do the whole show

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like this, so that I'm plugging you ad infinitum?

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No, I will put it on the table in front of me, and every once in

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a while, I'll do this. OK? OK?

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So, all right, quid pro quo, you do something for me,

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I do something for you. All right.

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Kevin, I'm going to do this thing. I'm not pushing, I'm

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-not pushing anything. It's Kevin. He's busy.

-What's he doing?

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Kevin Salter works with me. He's busy. He works around the office

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and I don't...I really don't understand exactly what he's doing.

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But I'm sure it's tidying up a bit.

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He's making sure the office... That everything is hung

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correctly and we're doing... Done?

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-Thank you, Kevin!

-My pleasure.

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-So...

-So, questions and answers.

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Yeah, well, I'd like to ask you about Young Frankenstein anyway,

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-the musical.

-You mean...?

-Yeah.

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I had done The Producers on Broadway and there was, uh,

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there was an army of Jews that wanted to invest in another

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hit musical comedy.

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So I was thinking, what is my next musical comedy on Broadway?

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ELECTRICITY CRACKLES

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From that fateful day when stinking bits of slime first crawled

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from the sea and shouted to the cold stars, "I am man!"...

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..our greatest dread has always been the knowledge of our own mortality.

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Young Frankenstein had a lot of theatricality,

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a lot of footlights.

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Life!

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Life, do you hear me?

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Give my creation life!

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If a monster puts on a top hat and sings Puttin' On The Ritz,

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you're not going to do better than that.

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# Different types who wear a day coat

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# Pants with stripes or cutaway coat Perfect fits

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# PUTTIN' ON THE RITZ!

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# Dressed up like a million-dollar trouper

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# Tryin' mighty hard to look like Gary Cooper

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# SUPER-DUPER!

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# Come, let's mix where Rockefellers walk with sticks

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# Or umbrellas in their mitts

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# PUTTIN' ON THE RITZ!... #

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One night, I had a kind of epiphany.

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I, you know, I sprang up from my bed like Scrooge, you know,

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and said, "Oh, what have I done?"

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So, I decided to write a musical called Young Frankenstein,

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use the skeleton, the bones of Young Frankenstein

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and add songs that were funny, touching, appropriate

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and, you know, would knock them out, knock the audience out.

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THUNDER CRASHES, ELECTRICITY CRACKLES

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-You must be Igor?

-Nope.

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It's pronounced "eye-gor".

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Welcome.

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Sorry, I don't wish to embarrass you,

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but I am a rather brilliant surgeon.

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Perhaps I could help you with that hump.

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What hump?

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Your track record with reviewers has been not good. Blazing Saddles got

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bad reviews, didn't it? The Producers got bad reviews.

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-Yeah.

-Are you a bit disappointed that this has got such good reviews?

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Yeah!

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Yeah, I mean, I wonder, have I done something wrong?

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I mean, the five-star reviews...

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I've never gotten good reviews before, you know?

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He's alive!

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When I did The Producers, they said, "Springtime For Hitler?

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"How dare you!" You know? "Shame on you!"

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# Springtime for Hitler and Germany

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# Deutschland is happy and gay... #

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You know, I watched this in North London with a lot of Jews.

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# Look out, here comes the master race... #

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And I don't think they could believe what they were seeing.

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# Come on, Germans, go into your dance

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# I was born in Dusseldorf Und that is why they call me Rolf... #

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How did you get this made?

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# Don't be stupid, be a smarty Come and join the Nazi Party... #

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I came to him, and he was wanting to make a major motion picture,

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and he said, "Tell me the story." I told him the story and I said,

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"'And then # Springtime for Hitler... #'

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And he was drinking coffee, and the coffee went up his nose,

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and he fell, he went and fell on the floor, gasping.

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I mean, the coffee went up his nose and out of his mouth.

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Well! Talk about bad taste!

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# Springtime for Hitler and Germany

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# Means that soon we'll be going

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# We've got to be going

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# You know we'll

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# Be going to war! #

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James, could you come back, please? James, I want to talk to you.

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If you don't mind, I'd like to talk to you without Alan Yentob around.

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Listen, he's been a friend of mine for a long time and I'm...

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Honestly, just between us, I want you to know I'm getting fed up,

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because every time we go to lunch or we go to dinner, he never

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sticks his hand in his pocket.

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Oh! What a pleasant surprise! What are you people doing in the hallway?

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Oh, this is nice, this is wonderful. Isn't this? Watch your hands.

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This is terrific. Isn't this nice?

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Every... All of this beautiful stuff all around here.

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Oh, you're the fella from the BBC? And you're the cameraman filming it.

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Hello. Hello, England. Hello, how's everything going?

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Ever been to Harrods? I gave it back.

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What, are you going to come in and talk to me this afternoon?

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-Yeah, we want to do this story.

-Oh, wonderful, wonderful. What are you

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-going to talk about?

-About, you know, Melvyn Kaminsky,

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-your childhood, and....

-Melvyn Kaminsky? Are you crazy?

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Let's... I've been Mel Brooks for the past 22 years. I make a living

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as Mel Brooks. Nobody knows Melvyn Kaminsky!

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It's a picture of me as a baby, yes, yes.

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I don't like this picture. I don't want to use this photo.

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Well, if you find... If you've got a better one,

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-you know, that's fine by me.

-Wait a minute.

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I have something a little...I think that's a little better...in my desk.

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Here. Use this.

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-It's very nice, but this says Robert Redford on this.

-Robert Redford?

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Cut out the Robert Redford on the bottom of it and, uh.... Look,

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a three- or four-year-old kid, what difference does it make

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if it's me or Robert Redford? Nobody will know.

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-It's a nice blond-haired kid.

-That's fine.

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I mean, if that's what you want, you know, that's fine.

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Can you tell me what kind of baby you were, what kind of child you were?

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I was, mmm...

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I was a baby, I was the fourth child born to my mother.

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I was a 10lb baby.

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I was the fourth son born to her.

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She tells me that she said to the doctor, "I don't want him.

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"Would you like him?" The doctor said no

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and asked around the building, and everyone came to look and said,

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nicely, you know, in a nice way, "No, no."

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So my mother kept me, and she's been happy ever since,

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because I'm the one - not Irving,

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not Lenny, not Bernie - but Melvyn is the one

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that sends her the 16 and 93 cents a month.

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They don't send her the cheque, I send her the cheque.

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In the interview later, say it's 116, all right?

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-Promise? Good boy. OK.

-You were born in Brooklyn.

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I was born in Brooklyn, yes, which is a province of New York.

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Was there something special about being Jewish in Brooklyn

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-at that time in New York?

-No, everybody was.

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Every single human being in Brooklyn was a Jew at that point,

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so there was nothing special about it. It was quite ordinary.

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It was a pedestrian thing to be. I mean, I went to Manhattan

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and I met all these Gentiles and it was a little frightening.

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That was frightening. I said, "My God,

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"you mean there are other people besides Jews in the world?"

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So we never felt any anti-Semitism or any strangeness.

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Had we been transported to Nebraska or Kansas or Abilene, Texas,

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yes, we would have felt... They would have said...

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SOUTHERN DRAWL: .."What the hell is that thing there,

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"talking in that Jew talk? What the hell?

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"They're so little, itty-bitty people. They're so short. So funny.

0:19:510:19:54

"And they can count.

0:19:540:19:56

"I got myself a Jew.

0:19:560:19:58

"I wanted an Airedale, but I got myself a Jew instead.

0:19:580:20:02

"And it do everything.

0:20:020:20:04

"Ostensibly, it's my accountant,

0:20:060:20:07

"but it's cuter than an accountant. It can count.

0:20:070:20:11

"It don't even need a pencil. It can count. You just... All you do...

0:20:110:20:14

"Every night, you just take a little matzos. That's what they eat,

0:20:140:20:17

"unleavened bread. You put that in their dish,

0:20:170:20:20

"in a little water to soften up, because it cut their gums.

0:20:200:20:23

"You don't want a little Jew bleeding all over your carpet.

0:20:230:20:27

"You give them the matzos, the little Jews, and they love you for it.

0:20:270:20:31

"They love you for it. They're wonderful people.

0:20:310:20:33

"And I'm trying... I'm going to get another one.

0:20:330:20:36

"I'm going to get a female, and I'm going to breed them.

0:20:360:20:38

"I'm going to breed these little Jews, and I'm going to sell them

0:20:380:20:41

"as little Jew accountants to everybody in Texas."

0:20:410:20:43

Your career in comedy started in the mountains.

0:20:460:20:49

Would you please bring...? Mrs Poldenfarm, other people would like

0:20:490:20:54

to use that rowboat.

0:20:540:20:56

Please bring in rowboat 101.

0:20:560:20:59

The real name of the rowboat is 11.

0:20:590:21:02

That's a hole in the middle. You're sinking.

0:21:020:21:05

The Jewish mountains, you went there, really... They went there,

0:21:050:21:10

really, for the food. They went there to die.

0:21:100:21:12

Because the food was cholesterol. That's all it was.

0:21:120:21:15

It was sour cream on potato pancakes. It was only things

0:21:150:21:21

that would kill you.

0:21:210:21:22

The most dangerous thing that a Jew could do in the Borscht Belt

0:21:220:21:27

was to sing a song after lunch.

0:21:270:21:31

Lunch would fill them up to here.

0:21:310:21:33

They would eat kneidlach, meidlach, teidlach,

0:21:330:21:36

meidlach, reidlach, neidlach and teidlach.

0:21:360:21:38

I don't know what...

0:21:380:21:39

It's all Yiddish words for doughy substances

0:21:390:21:42

filled with cheeses and kasha, covered with creams.

0:21:420:21:46

Sometimes they would have just a lot of raw vegetables covered with

0:21:470:21:51

one gallon of sour cream. And they would eat that.

0:21:510:21:54

Then they would have sour cream on blintzes for lunch, for dessert,

0:21:540:21:57

and that would be their lunch. And then ten gallons of hot tea.

0:21:570:22:01

And then a glass of sour cream. You don't know what...

0:22:010:22:04

And then, after that, they would sit and rock.

0:22:040:22:07

They would be on the porch, they would rock, and this is the most

0:22:070:22:10

dangerous thing a Jew can do. The most dangerous thing a Jew

0:22:100:22:13

could do in the mountains was to sing Dancing In The Dark.

0:22:130:22:16

Why Dancing in the Dark? Because they never understood the range

0:22:170:22:21

of that song and would invariably start in the wrong key.

0:22:210:22:26

If you're going to sing Dancing In The Dark, you've got to start very low,

0:22:260:22:29

because the song goes very high. And many Jews would die of a stroke

0:22:290:22:33

because they would start too high, thinking that was a normal place

0:22:330:22:36

to start Dancing In The Dark. They would sing what would appear normal.

0:22:360:22:39

# Dancing in the dark... #

0:22:390:22:41

Now, that doesn't sound so bad. # Till the tune ends... #

0:22:410:22:43

But you watch.

0:22:430:22:44

# We're dancing in the dark And it soon ends

0:22:440:22:48

# And we can face the music together

0:22:480:22:53

EVER HIGHER: # Dancing in the dark! #

0:22:530:22:57

And a stroke, and they would die. Because they don't know how

0:22:570:23:00

high that song goes. You've got to start it like this.

0:23:000:23:03

MUCH LOWER: # Dancing in the dark Till the tune ends

0:23:030:23:08

# We're waltzing in the dark And it soon ends

0:23:080:23:12

# And we can face the music Together

0:23:120:23:15

# Dancing, as we're dancing in the dark. #

0:23:150:23:19

That was perfect early Crosby. Crosby, '39.

0:23:190:23:23

Wow!

0:23:230:23:25

It's difficult to believe, but you are a musical person.

0:23:250:23:28

I'm very musical. You want to hear?

0:23:280:23:30

HE CROONS

0:23:300:23:32

# How brown... #

0:23:320:23:34

-That was Crosby, '32, also.

-What about this Sinatra

0:23:340:23:38

version of High Anxiety? How did that come about?

0:23:380:23:41

I thought it would be wonderful.

0:23:410:23:43

When we were doing High Anxiety,

0:23:430:23:45

I was a doctor, a psychiatrist, and she says, "Do you sing?"

0:23:450:23:48

And I say, "No, no. In the shower."

0:23:480:23:51

And then she says, "Well, try." We're sitting around a piano bar.

0:23:510:23:55

And so I thought it would be sensational if a novice singer,

0:23:550:23:59

you know, a psychiatrist, would suddenly sing

0:23:590:24:01

exactly like Frank Sinatra.

0:24:010:24:03

Hey, it's song time here at the piano bar.

0:24:030:24:05

That means I lay back and let you come forward

0:24:050:24:08

and sing a few songs. How about you, sir?

0:24:080:24:10

How about you, ma'am? No?

0:24:110:24:13

How about you, Doc? How about giving us a tune?

0:24:140:24:16

-Come on.

-Me?

-Yes.

0:24:160:24:18

I don't sing, no.

0:24:180:24:20

I really don't sing. Not professionally, anyway.

0:24:200:24:22

Yeah, come on, Doc, give us a song.

0:24:220:24:25

-Please.

-We'd love it.

-Come on, Doc, you can do it.

0:24:250:24:27

Well, go ahead. Go ahead, it'll be fun.

0:24:270:24:30

All right. Do you know High Anxiety?

0:24:300:24:34

You got it. Is B flat OK?

0:24:340:24:36

B flat?

0:24:360:24:38

-The key.

-Oh. Oh, the key. Oh, that's fine, sure. I guess so.

0:24:380:24:41

-Sing into here?

-Mm-hm.

-OK. Any time.

0:24:410:24:44

PIANO INTRO

0:24:440:24:47

# High an...xiety

0:24:470:24:50

# Whenever you're near

0:24:510:24:54

# High an...xiety

0:24:560:24:58

# It's you that I fear

0:24:590:25:03

BAND JOINS IN # My heart's afraid to fly

0:25:030:25:08

# It's crashed before

0:25:080:25:11

# But then you take my hand

0:25:120:25:15

# My heart starts to soar Once more

0:25:160:25:21

# High anxiety

0:25:210:25:23

# It's always the same

0:25:240:25:28

# Ooh, xiety

0:25:290:25:31

# It's you...that I blame

0:25:320:25:36

# It's very clear to me

0:25:380:25:41

# I've got to give in

0:25:410:25:44

# High an...xiety

0:25:460:25:49

# You win. #

0:25:500:25:52

Comedy is always about what's happening in your life

0:25:530:25:56

and the world, and there's nothing better than getting a laugh.

0:25:560:26:00

It makes everybody happy.

0:26:000:26:01

If Carl Reiner's got something

0:26:010:26:04

to say, chances are it's funny.

0:26:040:26:06

Over a career that spanned more than seven decades,

0:26:060:26:09

the 94-year-old has penned, directed and acted out

0:26:090:26:12

some of comedy's greatest hits,

0:26:120:26:14

from the semiautobiographical Dick Van Dyke Show

0:26:140:26:18

to multiple collaborations with Steve Martin, like The Jerk...

0:26:180:26:22

Stay away from the cans!

0:26:220:26:24

..and The 2,000 Year Old Man.

0:26:240:26:26

That hurts?

0:26:260:26:28

Yeah, you bet it hurts now.

0:26:280:26:30

Reiner's ad-libbed routine with famously close buddy Mel Brooks.

0:26:300:26:34

Are you surprised at how much people love that sketch?

0:26:340:26:37

Well, Mel, I think, is the funniest human being in the world.

0:26:370:26:41

He's connected to the truth.

0:26:410:26:43

Here are the two funniest guys on the planet,

0:26:430:26:46

and you're both now in your 90s.

0:26:460:26:48

PHONE RINGING TONE

0:26:510:26:53

-Hello?

-Hello, Carl, can you hear me?

0:26:570:27:00

-Barely.

-MEL CHUCKLES

0:27:000:27:02

I've got Alan.

0:27:030:27:05

I've got Alan Yentob with me.

0:27:060:27:09

You're kidding!

0:27:090:27:10

Really. He's here from England, and he's expressed

0:27:100:27:14

a desire to see you.

0:27:140:27:16

Well, I'd love to see him. I'll even shave.

0:27:160:27:20

-No, you don't have to.

-No, don't shave.

0:27:200:27:22

Now, listen, Carl. I'm going to check Whole Foods.

0:27:220:27:27

-Stay with me, Carl.

-Yeah, yeah.

-I'm going to check Whole Foods,

0:27:270:27:32

and I'm going to see whether or not they're open. And if they're open,

0:27:320:27:37

I'm going to get... Er, I'm going to get chicken meatballs,

0:27:370:27:42

and I'm going to get...cannell...

0:27:420:27:45

-You know...

-OK!

-I'm going to get that thin spaghetti.

0:27:460:27:51

And I'm going to bring it over with a lot of sauce

0:27:510:27:54

-and we're all going to eat. Is that all right with you?

-Yes, of course.

0:27:540:27:58

-If you've got it, eat it.

-OK!

-If you've got it, eat it.

0:27:580:28:03

If you got it, eat it. All right, I'm going to try and get it,

0:28:030:28:06

and I'll get back to you in a half-hour with all the stuff.

0:28:060:28:09

-OK, I'll be here.

-OK, you'll be there. You wait.

0:28:090:28:13

-Yes?

-Yes.

-Yes!

0:28:340:28:36

-Yes.

-Yay!

-How are you?

-I love you.

0:28:360:28:39

You have made me laugh on very sad days.

0:28:410:28:43

-Oh, I'm so happy I could do that.

-You have put a smile on my face

0:28:430:28:47

when things weren't great.

0:28:470:28:49

If I knew that, I would probably have charged you.

0:28:490:28:52

But I didn't know.

0:28:520:28:54

-Thank you.

-You got it.

0:28:540:28:56

-You are truly one of a kind.

-Bless you.

0:28:570:29:01

-Thank you.

-You have been an inspiration to so many.

0:29:010:29:03

People like me, when we're down and you make us smile, it means a lot.

0:29:030:29:08

-Who are you?

-These are friends taking pictures of me.

0:29:080:29:12

Do you have any chickpeas? The ones that are not spicy, these.

0:29:130:29:18

-You want the teriyaki sauce?

-Not the ones that are spicy.

0:29:180:29:23

-This is not spicy.

-OK, good.

0:29:230:29:26

There's a little dog...

0:29:340:29:36

There's a little dog going to make trouble.

0:29:380:29:40

-OK.

-It's Rosa's little dog. He's a little white dog who goes bananas

0:29:400:29:44

when people come to the door.

0:29:440:29:46

Caesar!

0:29:480:29:50

We're lucky. Caesar?

0:29:500:29:53

Friends. OK, he's not here.

0:29:540:29:56

Carl? Where's Carl?

0:29:590:30:02

Carl is upstairs.

0:30:020:30:04

-TV:

-The destination for the eerie.

0:30:040:30:07

Weird, blood-chilling tales told by Old Nancy, the witch of Salem...

0:30:070:30:11

Hello?

0:30:130:30:16

-TV OFF

-How are you?

-Come to find you.

0:30:220:30:25

-I'm here.

-We've brought you your dinner.

-OK.

0:30:250:30:29

I was just putting together some things to show you what I'm doing.

0:30:290:30:34

-Yeah.

-Here's one of them. What does it say?

0:30:340:30:38

It says, "The Rise & Fall & Rise & Fall & Rise & Fall & Rise

0:30:380:30:42

"& Fall & Rise & Fall & Rise Of Radio

0:30:420:30:47

-"by Carl Reiner."

-Yes, but isn't this interesting?

0:30:470:30:51

Because this is...

0:30:510:30:54

..a crystal set. My father, when I was four, five years old,

0:30:540:30:58

he built a crystal set very similar to this.

0:30:580:31:02

But we heard scratchy music and Lowell Thomas doing the news.

0:31:020:31:08

That was the only... Amos 'n' Andy came on.

0:31:080:31:11

And then he went out and built the radio, a real radio.

0:31:110:31:15

But we had gaslight. So he had to get a storage battery

0:31:150:31:19

-to run the radio.

-Was your radio like that?

0:31:190:31:23

He had a different speaker, but it was very similar.

0:31:230:31:26

-And there's my father.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:31:260:31:29

Oh, gosh!

0:31:290:31:31

-I'm looking to see if...

-And this is my favourite thing of all.

0:31:310:31:36

When I was in the NYA radio make shop,

0:31:360:31:39

we had a producer, a young girl producer, called Miriam Wolfe.

0:31:390:31:43

And I said, "Are you the same Miriam Wolfe who did The Witch's Tale?

0:31:430:31:49

"I heard it." She said yes. This is what she looked like.

0:31:490:31:54

She scared the shit out of me. She had this voice.

0:31:540:31:58

She says, "It's now the wi... She says, "Gaze into embers,

0:31:580:32:02

"gaze into them deep, and soon you will see..."

0:32:020:32:06

Scared the shit out of me. And then she was my producer.

0:32:060:32:10

-This is her.

-She was your first producer?

-Yeah, in radio. I was 18.

0:32:100:32:15

I'm going to do James Cagney.

0:32:170:32:20

HE GASPS REPEATEDLY

0:32:200:32:22

All right, now get out.

0:32:280:32:30

You know, it was Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks who created

0:32:300:32:33

the famous 2,000-year-old Man, a marvellously inventive comedy idea,

0:32:330:32:37

especially since they conceived this idea way before

0:32:370:32:40

Medicare was even thought of.

0:32:400:32:42

So here's Carl Reiner to tell us more about this

0:32:420:32:45

lovable ancient character. Carl Reiner, ladies and gentlemen.

0:32:450:32:48

CHEERS, APPLAUSE, INTRO MUSIC

0:32:480:32:50

Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's that time of the year

0:32:550:32:59

when the 2,000-year-old-man goes to the Mayo Clinic

0:32:590:33:02

for his annual checkup. Ladies and gentlemen, the

0:33:020:33:05

2,000-year-old-man, Mr Mel Brooks.

0:33:050:33:08

CHEERING, APPLAUSE, INTRO MUSIC

0:33:080:33:10

Ah! I feel good, and I'm happy,

0:33:140:33:17

-and I'm delighted.

-Delighted to be here on the Hollywood Palace.

0:33:170:33:20

-Delighted to be alive, never mind anything else.

-That's good.

0:33:200:33:24

When I wake up in the morning, I make myself a birthday cake.

0:33:240:33:27

A cupcake with one candle. I am glad to go in and out.

0:33:270:33:32

So, what has... What has...? I've asked you this many times.

0:33:330:33:36

-You've asked me a lot of junk since...

-Yes. But we are always

0:33:360:33:40

fascinated to know, what has kept you alive?

0:33:400:33:43

What do you think has kept you alive?

0:33:430:33:44

The main thing that has kept me alive, rolling along and singing

0:33:440:33:47

a song for over 2,000 years

0:33:470:33:50

is women, hundreds and hundreds of beautiful women.

0:33:500:33:54

We know that, many, many hundreds of years ago, most men

0:33:540:33:58

-had more than one wife.

-Yes.

-Did you practise polygamy in those days?

0:33:580:34:02

I never practised it.

0:34:020:34:03

I was perfect at it.

0:34:030:34:04

I don't even remember this. But it's funny.

0:34:060:34:10

I had my original toupee then.

0:34:100:34:14

Carl, that's amazing.

0:34:140:34:16

-Carl Reiner!

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:34:160:34:19

Don't you miss that toupee, Carl?

0:34:210:34:23

Where's the seat?

0:34:230:34:25

There's a big seat. Where am I standing?

0:34:250:34:27

That's a big seat. Thank you, thank you.

0:34:270:34:30

Look, here you are on Jay Leno.

0:34:300:34:34

And you're still at it.

0:34:340:34:35

It must be...30 years on?

0:34:350:34:38

30? Maybe 40.

0:34:380:34:40

Sir, I understand...

0:34:440:34:46

I understand that you've been given a clean bill of health.

0:34:460:34:49

Yes, sir, a clean bill of health

0:34:490:34:51

-and a big bill for payment.

-Yes, well, that's the way it is today.

0:34:510:34:54

What is it...? What is it that has kept you alive? What is the secret

0:34:540:34:58

-of your longevity?

-I have been kept alive,

0:34:580:35:02

singing a song, rolling along for 2,000 years...

0:35:020:35:05

-..by the help of garlic.

-Garlic? Just garlic?

-Garlic, yes.

0:35:050:35:09

-How could garlic do that?

-Well, you know the scientific way how you die?

0:35:090:35:13

-Yes.

-The Angel of Death rings your bell,

0:35:130:35:16

you let him in, like a schmuck,

0:35:160:35:18

he comes up to your apartment,

0:35:180:35:20

he leans over, he gives you the kiss of death...

0:35:200:35:22

-The kiss of death!

-..and he takes you away.

-Yes.

-Before I retire,

0:35:220:35:27

I eat a pound and a half of garlic, I chew it up, I leave a little bit

0:35:270:35:31

-under my tongue...

-I see!

-..then I go to sleep.

0:35:310:35:34

He comes in, bends over to give me the kiss of death,

0:35:340:35:37

-I say, "Whooooo is it?"

-Oh, I see, I see.

0:35:370:35:41

-He wouldn't want to kiss you.

-Oh, yeah.

0:35:410:35:43

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:35:430:35:44

In the early days... of our 2,000-year-old man,

0:35:440:35:50

I'm going to say...

0:35:500:35:52

I never knew what Carl... I never knew what he would ask me.

0:35:520:35:57

And sometimes he asked me things that were pretty bizarre.

0:35:570:36:01

And the more bizarre it was, the funnier. A trapped genius

0:36:010:36:05

mind against the wall comes up with

0:36:050:36:09

-absolutely the most brilliant things.

-And I loved confounding him,

0:36:090:36:15

coming back with something that would actually break him up

0:36:150:36:17

and make him laugh. And then he'd come back

0:36:170:36:20

with a question that would stun me.

0:36:200:36:23

Nobody would dare ask that question.

0:36:230:36:25

There's a very other thing that's very important.

0:36:250:36:28

I don't think you can say "very other," but I'll let it go.

0:36:280:36:31

No, no. I was working at Universal

0:36:310:36:34

at the time, and I had a bungalow next to Cary Grant.

0:36:340:36:38

He passed one day, and I said - and the album just came out -

0:36:380:36:42

"Here's something you might enjoy."

0:36:420:36:43

He came back the next day and said, "Can I have a dozen?"

0:36:430:36:47

I said, "What are you going...?" He said, "I'm going to England."

0:36:470:36:50

I said, "You're going to take these to England?"

0:36:500:36:52

He said, "Yes, they speak English there." Those are his words.

0:36:520:36:56

He came back, and he said, "She loved it." I says, "Who?"

0:36:560:36:59

He said, "The Queen Mother. Took them to Buckingham Palace."

0:36:590:37:03

And I said to Mel, "The biggest shiksa in the world loved this.

0:37:030:37:06

"We're home free!"

0:37:060:37:08

I said, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God! It's Cary Grant. He's talking to me!

0:37:080:37:12

"I heard my name!" He said, "Mel Brooks."

0:37:120:37:14

I turned around, I said... "You're Cary Grant." He said, "Yes."

0:37:140:37:17

I said, "You shouldn't talk to me, I'm nothing!

0:37:170:37:20

"I'm a figment of your imagination. You're a great big star,

0:37:200:37:23

"I'm a little Jew from Brooklyn. Don't even look at me."

0:37:230:37:25

He said, "I've spent 1,000 yesterday buying your record.

0:37:250:37:30

"I've given your records to all my friends. It's the funniest damn

0:37:300:37:33

"record I've ever heard in my life."

0:37:330:37:35

I said, "I don't believe this." He said, "Where are you going?"

0:37:350:37:38

I said, "I'm going to the commissary." That's the lunchroom.

0:37:380:37:40

"The commissary?" He said, "OK. Come on, I'll buy you lunch."

0:37:400:37:44

I said, "All right, Cary Grant."

0:37:440:37:45

So we go to the commissary together. I walk past a guy,

0:37:450:37:48

my friend Murray. I said, "Murray! Me and Cary are going to lunch!"

0:37:480:37:52

We go to lunch. Cary, he orders a boiled egg. Don't ask me why.

0:37:530:37:58

Dry toast and a boiled egg. I ordered a tuna fish sandwich.

0:37:580:38:00

"What's your favourite colour?" "Yellow. What's yours?" "Blue."

0:38:000:38:03

OK, fine, great. Finished lunch, we go back.

0:38:030:38:06

He goes to Grand, I go to Schwartz.

0:38:060:38:09

Go into the bungalow, everything is gone. Next day, ring!

0:38:090:38:13

"Is Mel Brooks there?" "Yeah."

0:38:130:38:14

"It's Cary Grant." "It's Cary Grant! For me."

0:38:140:38:17

"Are you going to lunch? "Yes, Cary. I'll meet you just outside."

0:38:170:38:20

"OK, buddy!"

0:38:200:38:21

Cary Grant... I'm walking. "How you doing? What's your favourite car?"

0:38:230:38:27

"Rolls-Royce." "I like a '38 Buick."

0:38:270:38:29

"OK, fine, fine." "You like double-breasted?

0:38:290:38:32

"I like single-breasted."

0:38:320:38:33

"I like a red tie, you like a blue tie. Isn't that great?"

0:38:330:38:35

"I love your hair." "You like my hair? Great." OK.

0:38:350:38:38

We go in, he has a boiled egg, I have a tuna fish sandwich,

0:38:380:38:40

we finish lunch. We go back, he goes to Grand, I go back

0:38:400:38:45

to Marvin Schwartz's office. Fine.

0:38:450:38:47

Next day, ring! "Mel? Cal!"

0:38:470:38:50

Now, this time, we meet outside, we're skipping to the lunchroom.

0:38:500:38:54

APPLAUSE

0:38:560:38:57

And the conversation's getting sparse. I don't really know what to

0:39:010:39:04

say any more at lunch. I'm getting a little worried.

0:39:040:39:07

He's just voluble, he's carrying on, he's crazy about me. I don't know

0:39:070:39:11

what to say. OK.

0:39:110:39:13

The next day, Friday, the phone rings. "Hello, is Mel Brooks there?"

0:39:130:39:16

I said, "If it's Cary Grant, I'm not in!"

0:39:160:39:18

APPLAUSE

0:39:200:39:21

It's a true story.

0:39:230:39:25

-LIONEL RICHIE:

-# Hello

0:39:270:39:29

# I just got to let you know... #

0:39:310:39:34

11-time American Music Award winner Mariah Carey has turned

0:39:340:39:38

her 1994 holiday classic All I Want For Christmas Is You into...

0:39:380:39:43

Shall we watch Sid Caesar? That was your writing debut.

0:39:430:39:47

Sid Caesar invites you!

0:39:530:39:55

Whoa! That was a good one. What was that, Pete?

0:39:590:40:02

That was a corker. I think you left the cork in the bottle.

0:40:020:40:07

What seems to be the discrepancy over here? Hm?

0:40:070:40:11

Yeah... Oh... Is that your seat, Harry? Oh.

0:40:110:40:16

That's your seat, right, Harry?

0:40:160:40:18

Hey, you.

0:40:180:40:20

Out.

0:40:220:40:23

-Shepherd's pie?

-Shepherd's Bush.

-Shepherd's Bush.

0:40:250:40:29

I was in Shepherd's Bush. There's all Jews there.

0:40:290:40:31

I try to get away from the Jews. That's why I don't want

0:40:310:40:33

to hang around there. I worked at Shepherd's Bush at the BBC.

0:40:330:40:37

There was a studio at the BBC, that's still there, Shepherd's Bush.

0:40:370:40:40

We did The Show Of Shows with Sid Caesar.

0:40:400:40:42

We did it live. We did 12 or 13 shows over that summertime period.

0:40:420:40:47

I lived in Pelham Place, in South Ken, SW3.

0:40:470:40:52

APPLAUSE

0:40:520:40:53

Well, there you are. There you are, everyone.

0:40:540:40:57

Another half-hour has slipped by.

0:40:570:41:00

But don't forget... Don't forget that Sid Caesar invites you

0:41:000:41:03

to tune in to the BBC next Tuesday again at eight.

0:41:030:41:07

I would have been a comic many years ago had I not had such a great

0:41:070:41:10

vehicle for my passion. I told you that.

0:41:100:41:14

Sid Caesar was a genius. So, when I met him, I said, "I knew you could

0:41:140:41:17

"play the saxophone, but this is thrilling.

0:41:170:41:19

"You are a thrilling interpreter of human behaviour."

0:41:190:41:23

And so, I said, "I'm going to write for you."

0:41:230:41:26

DRAMATIC PIANO CHORDS

0:41:260:41:28

What I got out of it was a sense of timing and a sense of...

0:42:010:42:06

..of height, that there were no limits to comedy,

0:42:060:42:10

that you had to scale higher mountains, that Annapurna was not

0:42:100:42:13

enough, it was Everest. It was the comedy Everest you had to scale.

0:42:130:42:18

And Sid Caesar taught us all that, that there were no limits

0:42:180:42:22

to our comic imaginations.

0:42:220:42:24

As a writer, you found success with Show Of Shows. Great success.

0:42:260:42:29

And yet then...that all went. I mean, how did that affect you?

0:42:290:42:33

I cried.

0:42:360:42:37

I cried. I mean, I cried for two years.

0:42:390:42:41

Thanks, Lee. All I did was cry for two years. I did nothing but sob.

0:42:410:42:46

I mean, I was broke. I mean, I didn't have a nickel.

0:42:460:42:49

He used to come to my office, he used to stop off at

0:42:490:42:52

Chock Full o'Nuts and buy a cream cheese and walnut sandwich

0:42:520:42:57

and a cup of tea in a container, and he'd come up and sit

0:42:570:43:01

there and talk about the future. He used to make a date to do that.

0:43:010:43:05

And I was busy trying to go out to lunch and make a career

0:43:050:43:09

for myself, and here was this guy who insisted on sitting there

0:43:090:43:11

with this container.

0:43:110:43:13

Included in the future was a very serious idea he had for the great

0:43:130:43:18

comic stage play called Springtime For Hitler,

0:43:180:43:22

which would show through comedy what the Nazis really were like, you see.

0:43:220:43:27

And he had these very serious ideas.

0:43:270:43:31

"Springtime For Hitler.

0:43:310:43:33

"A Gay Romp With Adolf And Eva At Berchtesgaden."

0:43:330:43:38

-Wow!

-Wow!

0:43:380:43:40

-It's practically a love letter to Hitler.

-This won't run a week!

0:43:400:43:44

A week? Are you kidding? This play has got to close on page four.

0:43:440:43:48

Do people say to you, "Do you wish to make serious films?"...

0:43:480:43:52

-..if that is the phrase you can use?

-Yes. Yeah. Well, I tell them...

0:43:520:43:56

Sometimes I get up on my high horse. My horse is over 17 hands tall,

0:43:560:44:00

and I get up on that horse and I say to them...

0:44:000:44:03

..I say...

0:44:030:44:05

.."Bullshit." And they say, "What? I beg your pardon?"

0:44:050:44:09

"Excuse me." And I say, "All my films are serious.

0:44:090:44:13

"You examine any one of them, they're serious because they are

0:44:130:44:16

"passionate and they depict human behaviour at given points

0:44:160:44:19

"in the history of humanity."

0:44:190:44:21

I say, "They're not dramatic. That's the difference."

0:44:210:44:24

I say, "You've got to be careful what you say there when you use

0:44:240:44:28

"those words," because you can't make a successful comedy

0:44:280:44:32

that doesn't have any passion. It will not be successful.

0:44:320:44:35

You've got to say something about the system, about the social

0:44:350:44:38

structure, about...

0:44:380:44:40

prejudice, about people, about behaviour.

0:44:400:44:43

Comedy is not successful unless it deals with...

0:44:430:44:47

Even Laurel and Hardy, you'd say, "Well, they're cheap comedies,"

0:44:470:44:50

but they always deal with the system.

0:44:500:44:52

The Marx Brothers always dealt with the system.

0:44:520:44:56

Every picture I've ever made has dealt with some aspect of the social

0:44:560:45:02

system and human behaviour within it.

0:45:020:45:04

I mean, I don't want to get clinical about it, but The Producers

0:45:040:45:08

was about the dream of little Leo Bloom...

0:45:080:45:11

..about success.

0:45:130:45:14

Bialystock says many things. If you listen to this big...

0:45:140:45:17

..Zero Mostel in The Producers, he says, "Bloom!

0:45:170:45:21

"Bloom, I'm sinking. I'm part of a society that demands success

0:45:220:45:27

"when all I can offer is failure."

0:45:270:45:29

Blazing Saddles is all about racial prejudice.

0:45:290:45:32

It's all about the hypocritical West shitting all over a black sheriff

0:45:320:45:35

and wanting him dead.

0:45:350:45:37

Did you think at the time you could get away with Blazing Saddles?

0:45:370:45:40

No. I said, "Look, I'm out of show business anyway."

0:45:400:45:43

The Producers made a penny. Twelve Chairs made a ha'penny.

0:45:430:45:46

I mean, it made nothing. You know? And I figured, "Well, I'm out of

0:45:460:45:49

"show business, I might as well say what I have and..."

0:45:490:45:53

I just flung myself into the nether land.

0:45:530:45:56

No, that's Holland. Into the nether world.

0:45:560:45:59

How did the studios let you do it, Blazing Saddles?

0:45:590:46:01

-What did they think of it when you'd done it?

-They didn't know better.

0:46:010:46:04

They thought we were just making a raucous Western.

0:46:040:46:07

I just got a telegram from the Governor's office.

0:46:070:46:10

The sheriff will be here at noon.

0:46:100:46:12

I'd better rehearse my speech.

0:46:140:46:16

As honorary chairman of the welcoming committee,

0:46:180:46:21

it is my privilege to extend to you

0:46:210:46:24

a laurel and hearty handshake.

0:46:240:46:27

-Wonderful.

-Lovely.

-Excellent.

-Hey, Gabby, can you see him yet?

0:46:280:46:32

The sheriff's coming!

0:46:370:46:38

Ring out the church bells!

0:46:380:46:40

-Strike up the band!

-CHURCH BELL RINGS

0:46:400:46:43

BAND PLAYS A JAUNTY TUNE

0:46:430:46:44

-Hey! The Sheriff is a ni...

-BELL RINGS

0:46:570:47:00

-What did he say?

-"The sheriff is near."

0:47:000:47:04

No, God blam rarrit!

0:47:040:47:06

-The Sheriff is a ni...

-BELL RINGS

0:47:060:47:09

# He rode a blazing saddle

0:47:110:47:15

# He wore a shining... #

0:47:150:47:16

Hey, where are the white women at?

0:47:160:47:19

These things are defective.

0:47:190:47:22

Excuse me while I whip this out.

0:47:220:47:24

SHOCKED SCREAMS

0:47:240:47:26

The Western is one of the great genres of American film.

0:47:280:47:31

Since the early days, Westerns have given us indelible images,

0:47:310:47:36

the grandeur of endless landscapes,

0:47:360:47:39

the intimacy of coffee at the campfire,

0:47:390:47:42

men who do the right thing.

0:47:420:47:44

I guess you could say that a Western embodies the spirit of America.

0:47:440:47:49

And this is what Mel Brooks did to it.

0:47:500:47:53

THEY ALL FART

0:47:530:47:57

Movies bring history to life.

0:48:090:48:11

They allow us to see, to experience

0:48:110:48:14

great moments of the past,

0:48:140:48:16

as if we were there living it,

0:48:160:48:18

from the dawn of man

0:48:180:48:21

to the eternal stories of the Bible...

0:48:210:48:24

The writing of God.

0:48:240:48:25

..to the epic tales of the Roman Empire.

0:48:250:48:28

Films have the ability to help us understand where we came from.

0:48:280:48:31

It is a proud and important tradition.

0:48:310:48:34

And this is what Mel Brooks did to it.

0:48:350:48:38

The Lord! The Lord Jehovah has given unto you these 15...

0:48:380:48:44

Um...

0:48:460:48:47

Ten! ..ten Commandments for all to obey.

0:48:470:48:52

Early on in my career, I set off on a bold adventure

0:48:520:48:54

to see if I could take mythological motifs

0:48:540:48:59

and turn them into a contemporary movie,

0:48:590:49:03

and I called this adventure Star Wars.

0:49:030:49:05

And this is what Mel Brooks did to it.

0:49:050:49:08

You have the ring. And I see your schwarz is as big as mine.

0:49:130:49:18

You see, the one thing that I don't like -

0:49:270:49:33

I don't like it in Hollywood and I don't like it at home -

0:49:330:49:36

is any kind of glitter.

0:49:360:49:38

I try to be as...as simple...

0:49:390:49:43

..and as earnest and as honest as I can.

0:49:440:49:46

I believe in the Oriental philosophy of life. I really do.

0:49:500:49:54

I subscribe to the yin and the yang.

0:49:540:49:58

And more recently the yen.

0:49:580:49:59

That's it.

0:50:000:50:02

-Can you do anything else musical?

-Uh, musically, yeah.

0:50:030:50:06

Do you guys know Just In Time? We'll do it in G.

0:50:060:50:08

GUITAR STRUMS

0:50:080:50:10

Dean Martin. Make believe this is gin.

0:50:100:50:13

# Just in time

0:50:130:50:15

# Found you just in time

0:50:150:50:17

# Before you came, my time was runnin' low

0:50:170:50:22

# I was born, losing dice were tossed

0:50:250:50:29

# My bridges all were crossed

0:50:290:50:32

# Nowhere to go

0:50:320:50:35

# Ooh, now you're here

0:50:350:50:39

# And now I know just where I'm going

0:50:390:50:43

# No more doubt or fear

0:50:430:50:46

# Found my way

0:50:460:50:47

# And love a-came a-just in time

0:50:490:50:51

# I found you just in time

0:50:510:50:54

# You changed my lonely life that lucky day

0:50:540:50:58

# My lonely, lonely life that lovely day. #

0:51:020:51:07

APPLAUSE

0:51:090:51:11

Mel sold his previous house to Frank Sinatra.

0:51:230:51:26

Yeah.

0:51:260:51:28

If I'd hung on to it, I'd be rich.

0:51:290:51:32

ALAN LAUGHS

0:51:320:51:33

MEL HUMS TO HIMSELF Just a touch...

0:51:340:51:38

I'll play you just a little...

0:51:410:51:43

..just a touch from my favourite composer.

0:51:430:51:47

-George Gershwin.

-George Gershwin.

0:51:470:51:48

HE PLAYS INTRO TO RHAPSODY IN BLUE

0:51:480:51:52

# Someday he'll come along The man I love

0:52:200:52:26

# And he'll be big and strong The man I love

0:52:260:52:30

# And when he comes my way

0:52:300:52:33

# I'll do my best to make him stay

0:52:330:52:38

# He'll look at me and smile I'll understand... #

0:52:410:52:46

On our desert island this week is the American film director,

0:52:460:52:50

-producer, writer, actor and comedian Mel Brooks.

-He left out composer.

0:52:500:52:55

I was a drummer. Only a few blocks away from where I lived, Buddy Rich,

0:52:550:53:00

the famous swing drummer, one of the best that ever lived...

0:53:000:53:03

You were a drummer? You were a drummer.

0:53:030:53:06

How do you train to become a drummer?

0:53:060:53:08

When I was a little boy on Bright and Sixth Street,

0:53:130:53:16

walking with two Bobbys, one a friend Bobby,

0:53:160:53:19

a tall friend and a short friend Bobby,

0:53:190:53:21

we walked past Bright and Sixth Street, where I...

0:53:210:53:24

HE DRUMS ON DESK

0:53:240:53:26

We said, "Oh, that's good." We said, "Either Fred Astaire

0:53:260:53:29

"lives in that apartment or somebody has a set of drums, right?"

0:53:290:53:32

So, we peeked in and there was Buddy Rich at the drums, rehearsing.

0:53:320:53:36

Buddy Rich was a great drummer, so we bothered him. We said,

0:53:570:54:01

"How do you hold the drums? How do you...?"

0:54:010:54:02

He was a sweet guy, always a sweet man. And he taught us just

0:54:020:54:06

how to hold the drums, that the right foot was on the bass drum,

0:54:060:54:09

the left foot was on the high-hat.

0:54:090:54:11

And it was... HE IMITATES RHYTHM

0:54:110:54:13

If you can get that rhythm...

0:54:130:54:15

JAZZ PIANO PLAYS

0:54:170:54:20

Always keep the beat. I'm always in the centre of the beat.

0:54:240:54:27

Never wrong. Born to do it.

0:54:400:54:43

What I'm doing now is really the most important thing

0:54:450:54:47

a drummer can do - not show off, just drive.

0:54:470:54:50

Nobody at my age could take a break like that.

0:55:020:55:05

ON TAPE: I've always loved music. I would be seriously bereft and at

0:55:070:55:12

a great loss if music were taken away from....

0:55:120:55:15

-Doesn't sound like you at all. It sounds like someone else.

-Right.

0:55:150:55:18

-Let's break for your second record.

-Yes.

-Guess what this is.

0:55:180:55:22

When I heard the Fifth Symphony, I said, "Oh, my God!"

0:55:220:55:26

And if I had my way, conducted by Arturo Toscanini

0:55:260:55:29

with the NBC Symphony Orchestra.

0:55:290:55:32

MUSIC: Beethoven's Fifth Symphony

0:55:320:55:34

MEL IMITATES THE MUSIC

0:55:380:55:41

He was good. HE CHUCKLES

0:55:550:55:57

Oh... He knew... What he could do! I mean, there are four notes,

0:55:590:56:04

and the variations on four notes are incredible.

0:56:040:56:09

I mean, they're just stupendous.

0:56:090:56:12

How old were you when you first heard...?

0:56:120:56:15

I was 12.

0:56:150:56:17

That's still those four notes.

0:56:180:56:21

And that's a counterpoint to the four notes. I mean...

0:56:210:56:24

-For a little Jew in Brooklyn, that's quite upmarket.

-Yeah.

0:56:240:56:27

MUSIC CONTINUES

0:56:270:56:30

When I was a little boy in Williamsburg, Brooklyn...

0:56:400:56:44

..I don't think I ever saw a green leaf.

0:56:470:56:50

Everything was cement. Everything was cobblestones and cement.

0:56:500:56:55

Now here every day there's something green and beautiful.

0:56:550:57:00

Now, if you back up and take a look at this guy...

0:57:000:57:04

Turn around, James.

0:57:040:57:06

I mean, this is...

0:57:070:57:09

..probably the best tree that ever grew in the whole world.

0:57:090:57:14

It has the most amazing roots, it has a network of branches.

0:57:140:57:18

It's amazing.

0:57:200:57:22

# Every time it rains, it rains Pennies from heaven

0:57:230:57:28

# They know each cloud contains Pennies from heaven

0:57:290:57:34

# If you want the things you love You must have showers

0:57:340:57:40

# So when you see it raining Don't run under a tree

0:57:400:57:45

# There'll be pennies from heaven For you and me! #

0:57:450:57:52

-Bravo.

-OK, follow me.

0:57:520:57:54

Follow us, James. Just follow us.

0:57:540:57:57

This is my lovely citrus grove.

0:57:570:58:00

This is my tangerine tree. Here we go.

0:58:000:58:03

This guy's almost ready. Alan, eat this for James.

0:58:030:58:09

-You can tear it, peel it.

-Here.

0:58:090:58:12

And these are for me.

0:58:160:58:17

All good.

0:58:200:58:22

-Seriously.

-All good.

-Seriously good.

0:58:230:58:25

Delicious. Really.

0:58:290:58:31

# There'll be pennies from heaven

0:58:320:58:36

# For you and me. #

0:58:360:58:44

Record number five now. What's that?

0:58:490:58:50

Record number five, Frank Sinatra.

0:58:500:58:53

Ohhh! Perhaps the best living singer, one of the great crooners,

0:58:530:58:57

you know, legendary crooners. A legend in his own life.

0:58:570:59:00

And here he is at the peak of his career.

0:59:000:59:03

PIANO INTRO Ah! In The Wee Small Hours.

0:59:030:59:07

-That's good taste.

-Are you surprised? That was you.

0:59:070:59:10

He...never sang better than on this record. I mean, it is...

0:59:100:59:16

..the most typical.

0:59:170:59:19

# In the wee small hours of the morning

0:59:190:59:25

# While the whole wide world is fast asleep

0:59:250:59:32

MEL HUMS ALONG

0:59:320:59:34

# You lie awake and think about... #

0:59:340:59:39

Why did he have to die? I mean, the voice... He...

0:59:390:59:43

You know... If somebody had to live forever, I'd vote for Sinatra.

0:59:430:59:48

# When your lonely heart has learned its lesson

0:59:510:59:58

# You'd be hers if only she would call

0:59:591:00:06

# In the wee small hours of the morning

1:00:071:00:14

# That's the time you miss her most of all. #

1:00:161:00:28

Thanks to the power of his merciless tune,

1:00:281:00:31

so that the whole world was made beautiful.

1:00:311:00:35

Mel, aren't you dead?

1:00:391:00:42

Didn't we bury you in 1982?

1:00:421:00:45

My right name is Marion Michael Morrison, and the studio decided

1:00:471:00:53

that it was not American enough for a boy who was going to

1:00:531:00:57

play Breckinridge...

1:00:571:00:59

Don't you remember? It's true.

1:00:591:01:01

Mel, it's all true.

1:01:031:01:04

MEL WHISTLES Folksies! Hello?

1:01:051:01:09

Grave watchers! Hello, funeral parties! Hello.

1:01:091:01:14

Hello, hello, flowers. Hello, people.

1:01:141:01:17

HE WHISTLES Come over...

1:01:171:01:19

Here, over here. Here. Over here, please.

1:01:191:01:22

Hello! Ah, thank you.

1:01:221:01:25

Hi, folks. Look familiar? I was Mel Brooks,

1:01:251:01:30

one of the funniest little Jews that ever walked the face of this earth.

1:01:301:01:34

I think so. Well, what can I tell you?

1:01:341:01:36

I say Mel Brooks. Actually, my name was Kaminsky.

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Melvyn Kaminsky. Now, I'd like you to think of me as Mel Brooks,

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because that's where the big bucks came in.

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Now, I can't really continue talking to you. I'd love to, but I can't,

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because...

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..you have to put in a coin.

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If you don't pay for this, you don't get it. I'm sorry.

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Even... Even after death, a little bit of commerce.

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Yeah, would you please put in a coin? If you don't, I go black.

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In about 30 seconds, you're going to lose me completely.

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Forever.

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Thank you! And...go.

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Now, what was I saying?

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Oh, yes. I'm here now, fresh, adorable, alive.

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Actually, right below, here, right under this little mound,

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the decay that's happening underneath this earth is disgusting.

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But let's not go into that.

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What lives, what goes on, after the body ceases?

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Is it the soul, is it the spirit? That's what the religiosos

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would have you believe. Actually, I'll tell you what lives on.

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Video tape.

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It's the only substance that is immortal. The soul vaporises.

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I'm sorry. After you die, you got about 36 hours, and then...

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..no more soul. But video tape is...

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You're good, you're almost immortal, because after 15 or 17 years,

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you recopy yourself on new vinyl, video, and you never die.

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You're always on tape.

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Melvyn Kaminsky is no more. But long live...

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..video tape.

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-Hello!

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Welcome, Mel!

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Excuse me, this is the... this is the red carpet.

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It's for celebrities.

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Sorry, old boy. See you later.

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BAND PLAYS Springtime For Hitler

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Mel Brooks.

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INTRO MUSIC

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You know, with your kind of introspection, it's very

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difficult to, you know, get to the heart of what

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-really is Mel Brooks.

-What am I really?

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I'm a coalescence of vapour. Sometimes... Sometimes I think of

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myself as a wraith. A wraith?

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Make that a wreath.

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This doesn't seem like a big production to me, really.

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I mean, what the hell are you people spending on it? 28?

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-I mean, you don't even have a good ending.

-No, I know.

-Do you want me

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just to say, "Th-th-th-th-th-that's all, folks"?

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You'd consider that the ending of a big Mel Brooks special?

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"Th-th-th-th-th-that's all, folks"?

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I'm Mel Brooks, not Mel Blanc.

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How about the Mercedes, the BMW and the Porsche?

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In our German Gestalt is the best in cars in the world.

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The other cars, Americaners, are shit.

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HE SHOUTS IN FAKE GERMAN

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America is bullshit.

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Und Deutschland ist alles Mercedes

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and the besten Wagen in the Volkswagen in the Welt!

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HE QUACKS LIKE DONALD DUCK

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Yes, but, Mel!

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-What? What do you want?

-Yeah, but... is it an ending, really?

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It's a terrific ending. Hitler, and then I go.

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All right, so it isn't the greatest ending in the world, I admit it.

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But it's an ending. It's some kind of an ending.

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I mean, it's better than no ending.

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Come up with a better ending.

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I got to go to the toilet. I'll talk to you later.

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HE SIGHS

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You know... You know, there are no real endings,

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if you want to be true to life, you know?

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In the movies, people are shot, right? And they die.

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"Aaaagh!" They die, and they say...

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.."So this is the end."

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KNOCK ON DOOR

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Will you please stop knocking on the door?

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-We're doing a...

-Mr Brooks, Miss Lansing is here.

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Who? Oh, uh... Can you explain that I'm...we're shooting a thing

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and I need the... I need the office for...?

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-Oh!

-Look, I'm sorry to bother you, but I...

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-..I really need my office back.

-Why don't you give me a break?

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-Just five more minutes.

-Honey... I've really got to get to this.

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-Must you?

-Yes. I really do.

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Please. I'm sorry.

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-I wouldn't do it unless it was important.

-Look, I know it's

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your office, but...

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It is my office, and I need my chair and I need my desk

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-and I need my papers.

-All right, all right, all right.

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And it took longer than I thought.

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MOVIE MUSIC SWELLS

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What should I do? What's to become of me? Where will I go?

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Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

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MUSIC: Hava Nagila

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It's not what we take up front. That's not important.

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CASH REGISTER RINGS The movie can be made.

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We've got to raise money to make the movie.

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The fees are not important.

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I'm interested in the adjusted gross.

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I want the gross after they're even dollar for dollar.

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What? Who is it?

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-It's Alan.

-Oh, all right.

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Come in, come in, come in. Come in.

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What is it? What is it?

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-What is it? I'm on the phone.

-OK. I just wondered whether...

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We still haven't got this ending sorted out.

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MEL SIGHS

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They haven't... No, no. It's this guy Yentob from the BBC.

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No. They can't get an ending for this idiot documentary

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they're doing with me.

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What the hell do you want from me? No, tell me the deal again.

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They want to give us 16,000 upfront for everything?

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And then what do we get if the picture's a hit?

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1,100? Are you crazy?!

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-We're running out of film.

-What? Oh. OK.

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Look, I have to do this documentary. I'll call you back.

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MUSIC: Arena theme by Brian Eno

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Oh, you in there? Oh, there you are.

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OK, hey, listen. This is Alan Yentob. He's head of BBC Two.

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He flew all the way over from England to ask a few questions

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about Life Stinks. OK. Talk to him.

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He's in there somewhere. Go ahead. Go.

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Hello.

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Hello. Come in.

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-Thank you.

-So, you're from the BBC?

-BBC.

-Nice.

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-It must be a bit cramped in here.

-No, no, it's... It's very...

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It's very comfortable, very, very, very comfortable.

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As a matter of fact, we have...

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Friday nights, we have a little party in here.

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Excuse me?

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"Gipper! It's Gipper! Frankie!

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"Frankie, your mother forgives me! Frankie!"

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Oh, that was a great motion picture. You know, I...

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-I must go now, I think.

-No, no, don't go, don't go.

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I have many stories. I have things to tell you.

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I love that shirt. I love that T-shirt.

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It's a beautiful shirt. Don't, no, don't go. Please don't go. No.

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I don't want to be alone here. I don't want to be...

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You're the first human being that's come in in years!

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You know, I had a very big office. It was great.

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# This nearly was mine... #

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Stay!

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# This nearly was paradise

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# I was living in paradise

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# This nearly was mine. #

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-Oh, please, don't go. Don't leave me.

-Cut!

-Don't leave me!

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James, do me a favour. Say goodbye, thank you, and...

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-..and get out. No... No offence. OK, take care. Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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MUSIC: Arena theme

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-So that's it?

-All right, now, please, no offence,

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but get out. Enough.

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It's enough interviewing, it's enough talking, enough camera.

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I have a life. I have to...

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You know. I want to eat some spaghetti and meatballs tonight,

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with maybe some Parmesan cheese on top. And maybe a beer with it.

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I can't do that if you just

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keep talking to me and asking me questions.

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Why aren't I on this show?

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Well, Mel, why aren't I on this show?

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