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Exeter's Northcott - a once great theatre...

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It was an exciting place to be, and it got more and more so

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as the years went by.

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With a troubled past...

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We live in a very commercial world now and I

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think very few theatres can actually exist without commercial help.

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Now, can one man turn the theatre's fortunes around?

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That doesn't work...

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which is why we have no phones.

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There's absolutely no landlhne in here whatever.

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I don't know why I'm laughing.

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It's ridiculous.

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Or is time running out for the Northcott?

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We've got some issues with the mainline theatre audience,

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which is not as good as I would like it to be.

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So the History Boys coming tp for up for half.

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That's going to be on at thd end of May and I'd like that to be rather

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better than that, and we didn't do that well with The Business

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of Murder and that's a pretty sort of mainline commercial offer,

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so you'd expect that to do better.

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And we're going to not hit our target with the Out of Joint show,

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with Crouch, Touch, Pause, Dngage.

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In fact, we're going to miss it by quite a lot, I think.

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Opera always sells well in this University Citx.

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But other visiting productions prompt frequent, anxious visits

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to the front of house...

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Can you get the report up on that?

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Show me what that one's likd.

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All the coloured ones need to bd sold.

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Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engagd - a challenging drama

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about a gay rugby player, is failing to score at the box office.

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I think it's a bad title, I think that's part of the problem.

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Apparently it sold very well when they started in Wales.

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Whilst we need to be commercially effective in what we progralme, some

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of the time, a lot of the thme. .

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It's important to have an idea of the sort of companies whose work

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we want in here and I have puite a strong idea of that and I think

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that should be an objective.

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Paul's had 25 years in the theatre, directing productions all over

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the UK, including in the West End and at the National.

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My parents took me to theatre when I was little and I was hooked,

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I was absolutely hooked.

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I loved it and I wanted to do it, so I just decided that I wotld.

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But in all his time in theatre he's not faced anything

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quite like Northcott's backstage area - known as the "D".

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So our telephone system, it's been, erm, extensively cleaned up.

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That doesn't work, which is why we have no phones.

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There's absolutely no landlhne in here whatever.

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I don't know why I'm laughing.

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It's ridiculous.

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So what I've done is I've told my staff to go out and get pay

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as you go.

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This one does work, that ond there.

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You see those green lights?

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That's very good news, because that's the box office line.

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If that was down then we really would bd...

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seriously in trouble.

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Here we are in the "D", in amongst a stack of mess.

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Ice-cream...

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more ice-cream...

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The ice-cream's there because there's not enough room out

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front, and also the ice-cre`m's there because it's been left there

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for a while, and the ice-crdam needs to go somewhere else.

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Believe it or not, this are` has been cleared up quite a lot

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since we took over, but there's still quite a lot more to go.

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We've got various bits of tdch kit.

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The theatre used to have storage on campus, which it lost, and ht also

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used to have storage in the city.

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So everything's been shoved down into here and piled up,

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and we desperately need to sort it out, and we will.

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It's a pain.

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ACTORS SING With ticket salds and the building both in nedd

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of improvement, change is ndeded at a theatre that's become `s

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well-known for the dramas offstage, as for those that happen on it. .

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The theatre has had more th`n its fair share of argument and problem.

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It's had...

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It's gone through some very choppy times which have involved

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Arts Council money being withdrawn, disagreement between Arts Council

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and the University, falling out between

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the directorate and the trustees.

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So there's a really bad pattern that we are determined to avoid

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When it opened on the Exeter University Campus in 196 ,

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the Northcott was a wonder of the theatrical world.

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Its stark, modern design was revolutionary

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The Northcott Theatre here hn Exeter is an exciting achievement.

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An expensive achievement - ?200,000 to be precise.

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It's new in being, new in ddsign, new in concept.

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But what's even more import`nt is it will provide the south-west with its

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only permanent professional theatre.

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But within a year of opening the Theatre was already in trouble,

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the first of many battles to secure Arts Council Funding.

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The Northcott Theatre is supported mainly by the Arts Council, and some

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other local authority bodies, and the Arts Council isn't living up

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to its end of the support.

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Consequently, because the Arts Council isn't giving anything

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like the money we had a right to expect, and indeed were asstred we

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might have, we are in difficulties.

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The Northcott survived, and went on to become one of the country s

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leading producing repertory theatres - launching the careers of people

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like Imelda Staunton, Bob Hoskins, Robert Lindsay, and Jon Nettles

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You were with a company of `ctors.

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We weren't starry in any sense.

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We weren't there to serve a star performance, as sometimes you

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are at the RSC and the National

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You were here to work together as a team to produce the best

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quality of performance you could.

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It was that air of camaraderie, of dependence on one another,

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which created a true companx.

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It was an exciting place to be, and it got more and more so

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as the years went by.

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When I went to Exeter, they were very heady days because it had just

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opened, it was new, and I rdmember being incredibly honoured that I had

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just auditioned for this thdatre and been asked to be - I think H was

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there for something like thd third production - and I was asked to be

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part of this theatre companx, which was electric in those days.

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You were part of a new comp`ny which was just forming

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and doing wonderful work, Shakespeare, Chekhov, you know.

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We'd go out touring round schools and community halls with

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The Bastard King, which we did about the Monmouth Rebellion.

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It was all very, very excithng.

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By the millennium, theatre audiences everywhere were f`lling.

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In 2008, the Arts Council once again withdrew funding,

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famously telling the Northcott it was attracting "the wrong sort of

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audience - too old and too posh .

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That didn't go down well.

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CHANTING: "SAVE THE NORTHCOTT!"

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I'm getting messages of support from all over the acting professhon.

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I've just had an email from Sir Ian McKellan expressing solidarhty,

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"Sir, having helped refurbish the Northcott recently, the Arts Council

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now seem perverse in threatdning to withdraw the grant for its work "

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It's coming in from all over the place.

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I was absolutely flabbergasted, but I very soon found that ht was,

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you know, part of a national picture `s well.

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It was the time when, a week or so later, there was an incredibly angry

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meeting at the Young Vic - from the whole theatre establishment - with a

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number of organisations getting cuts for seemingly inexplicable reasons.

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Two years later, mired in financial problems, the

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Northcott went into administration.

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It had to be rescued by the University.

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Ok, that's good.

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If you can strip that to nettral, please?

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Dominic Jeffery came to the Northcott as a student hn 2 03,

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one of a handful of staff to endure the rollercoaster ride of the

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Theatre's fortunes over the years.

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The theatre itself, as a building I think, has had some

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tricky times, but people within it are quite resilient.

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It's inevitable, as with anx arts organisation, you know,

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you have peaks and troughs with it.

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Sometimes what you are prodtcing, what you are putting on,

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is very successful, people want to see it, other times it is things

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that maybe don't sell so well.

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So when you have a season or two of things that don't sell

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so well or some unexpected bills that come through, inevitably you

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get on a little bit of a landslide.

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Successive touring companies have left their mark on the theatre,

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but so have years of uncert`inty and financial constraint.

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You join us on the Fly Floor.

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This is the part of the equhpment that is responsible for flyhng all

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the lighting and scenic equhpment that we use for all the productions.

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This piece of equipment really hasn't had an awful of investment

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since the building opened in 19 7.

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For instance, if you look down through, there's cradlds that

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hold these big heavy 10kg wdights.

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They're fairly bulky items, and its not unusual for one of these to

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have maybe 70 weights in a cradle.

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That gives you an idea of the weight of some of the pheces of

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scenery that we put up in the air.

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But there should be a catch-all cage underneath, so that

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if someone was to drop one of these weights it doesn't come all the way

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down and hit to the stage, `nd at the moment that cage is lissing.

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If we look at the floor where we are, there is a kick strip,

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which you can see is loose, and it should be running a lot higher up.

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There are things like the lines that need re-tightening,

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in some cases its hemp lines that need replacing, and there's a lot

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of slack in the system.

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So that's one area that a decent amount of investment would

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make a big of difference to the health and safety of thd things

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and the users in this buildhng.

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To get more money for its btilding, the Theatre needs to make friends

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with its landlord - Exeter University.

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Arguments about the Northcott's role and recriminations over fin`nces

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have strained the relationship.

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At times, they weren't speaking at all.

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Just a few days into his new job, Paul sets out to win over ddcision

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makers on campus.

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Well, Paul's one of those larger than life characters.

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He makes things happen.

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He keeps knocking on the door until you let him in.

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And so he's been successful in understanding how the unhversity

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works, who the key decision makers are, and making sure that hd pesters

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them to a least have an audhence.

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It's quite a complicated organisation.

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It's not a straightforward regional theatre in a high street run

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by a local city council.

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The building is owned by the university, the business

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of the theatre is a registered charity, so it's quite a colplicated

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package of relationships.

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Paul's determined the Northcott should return to production,

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devising and creating its own projects, rather th`n just

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receiving shows that are on tour.

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He wants his first in-house production on stage by Christmas,

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and he's brought in former ballet dancer turned director Amanda Knott

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to make it happen.

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The Scrooge that he is.

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We all need to know where there s a bit of stillness.

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Otherwise we don't know who he is before the show starts.

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Mid scale theatre has an important role to play in this broad dconomy.

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Now, we all want to keep Sh`kespeare alive,

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this classical tradition alhve.

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It informs everything else that we make and we do, and these places

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have a very important part to play in developing and nurturing that

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skill set, so they must continue.

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But as summer arrives, the Theatre faces another challenge.

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Ambitious plans for a new chty centre venue have been annotnced -

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it's a few years and more than 0 million pounds away, but thd local

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campaign, led by a former Northcott employee, is gathering momentum

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There's a sort of magic number in theatre of an auditorium of 00.

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Over 500 attracts slightly bigger shows.

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The Northcott, being 464, struggles to make enough box office

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return to attract some of the bigger touring shows.

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So this theatre, we're lookhng at probably a 900 to 1,000-seater.

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We're hoping it would pitch somewhere between the Northcott

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and Plymouth Theatre Royal.

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Exeter probably wouldn't be able to support a theatre of 1,200 to 1 500

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seats, that would compete whth the Theatre Royal for shows and for

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audiences, but at the moment there's quite a lot of touring prodtct

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available that would fill a theatre of about 1,000 se`ts.

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I would say the best chance of building

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a city centre theatre is for this theatre to be an enormous stccess.

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That would be the first thing, in the course of the next few xears.

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The next thing is that if you want to build a city centre theatre,

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there needs to be a real rationale - a reason for having it - `s I

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hope we are starting to arthculate a clear reason for this the`tre

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So you'll need to articulatd a very clear reason for the theatre

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you wish to build, otherwisd you are not going to get anywhere.

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And I also think it should be a theatre that produces stuff.

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The business of theatre now gets as many column inches

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as the productions.

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Across the country, theatres are struggling, and need to

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do everything they can to strvive.

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One of those challenges in the case of the Northcott is

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simply about its situation.

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It's on the campus of the university,

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it's not in the middle of the town.

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People have to make a decision to go to that thdatre,

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therefore it's probably verx important for that theatre to reach

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out to people, and not expect them to make the journey up the hill just

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as a matter of course.

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I think they really need to look at community work, participatory work.

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I think in the future, we whll probably judge a theatre not just

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on what it is that goes on on its stages, but all the other activity

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that its doing - a bit like an iceberg, where what goes on on its

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stages is perhaps the tip of that iceberg but what makes that

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theatre valuable and import`nt and loved and cherished by `

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community is all that activhty that is going on beneath the watdr line.

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I think for theatre to survhve, it has to reach out to absolutely

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everybody, and be inclusive of everybody.

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There is something about thdatre, verbal language, where you can go

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and see something, be so catght up in it, it goes into your gut.

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I will pass the clap to you and you pass it on to someone else.

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Right - go!

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Paul has already begun that process of reaching out.

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He's gone to a school in Dawlish to work with the next generation

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of actors and theatre-goers.

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Oh for goodness sake, that was a terrible start!

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Right, ready?

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Concentrate, begin!

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The Northcott is re-engaging with education at the same time `s

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returning to producing, so H am here because I think that the artistic

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director of the theatre shotld be.

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I'm making a direct connection with our young

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audience, whilst my colleagte Amanda is directing the Christmas show

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So I went, "You

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do the Christmas show, I'll do the education work.'

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That's it, concentrate...

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Move!

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Back at the Northcott, Amanda has cast Derek Frood

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as the lead in A Christmas Carol.

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He's still got the beard he grew for his role as Captain Brax in

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BBC TV's Poldark.

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It'll need a trim for the transformation to Scrooge.

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That has to have the narrator played by Scrooge.

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I felt that until the time when you go into your house, up until that

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time, you could be the narr`tor as well as being Scrooge, so it s

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a kind of double edged sword.

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But Scrooge as the narrator?

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Yeah, Scrooge the narrator, but the narrator is Scrooge.

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It's kind of, as I say, double-edged...

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It's been a long time since there were creative discussions

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like this at the Northcott.

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As the first in-house production in many years, there's

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a lot riding on its success.

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It is a hub of culture really, and it's the one place that you can

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get a broad spectrum of audience to, from your opera and

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ballet loving audiences, to your children's theatre, and encouraging

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schools into places like thhs.

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I think for a lot of childrdn, especially in rural counties

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like Devon, this is the one opportunity that thdy'll get

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to see theatre, live theatrd.

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Backstage, the big clearout is underwax.

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The first visible sign that things there are starting to changd.

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More than a ton of out-dated and broken equipment

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from a building where the space is worth more than the scrap v`lue

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But the clearout uncovers some treasures too.

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What's that - a sewing-machhne?

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I'm just working out why we have a sewing machine here.

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Presumably that was from wardrobe?

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It's a little piece of antipuity that our wardrobe mistress would

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like to think about how it hs used.

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I think it's rather nice.

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I think we should keep it, if we can.

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So we are clearer.

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We still have the ice cream in the "D", but we'll work

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on where to put that.

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It's much better, yeah.

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Publicity for A Christmas C`rol has begun earlier than usual.

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Paul hopes it'll boost the takings - the first real financial test

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of his time in charge.

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As the theatre prepares to take a short summer break for decoration

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and refurbishment, there's a sense that things are changing...

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but the proof will be in thd Autumn financial report.

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Freshers week at Exeter University.

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New faces, new energy, and new optimism on campus.

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Good afternoon, Exeter Northcott.

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The theatre reopens with a new box office, and it sedms to be

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doing good business.

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Well, there's odd ones dottdd about.

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Can I just take your first name or initial?

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It will then go to Expose, and could indeed become the basis

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of a press release.

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With a landline that now works, Paul is composing

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an important press release.

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He's got some great news, btt someone else has stolen his thunder.

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We were going to do a press release to announce the fact that this

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investment in the theatre, that was going to happen, but of course what

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has happened is that the sttdent newspaper, Expose, have got hold of

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it, and they are scooping it - which is rather admirable rdally.

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So we must put something out, to make sure there's a quotd.

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The University has agreed to spend more than a million pounds on the

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building for improvements, hncluding new audio-visual equipment.

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In return, the Northcott becomes a university

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lecture theatre two days a week

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I'm sure he won't get his way with all the things that he

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wants, because the university's mission is necessarily the same

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as the theatre's mission - but there are lots of crossovers

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so creating a vibrant campus is clearly very important for ts.

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So can the theatre contribute to that?

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Yes.

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Has it been?

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Yes, and of course that vibrancy is really starting to take off now

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We are seeing more students coming here, and that changes

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the audience dynamic.

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Ten years ago, the average `ge of the audience would have been

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much higher than the averagd age now, which of course makes theatre

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much more vibrant anyway.

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University funding secured, Paul's next challenge is to

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understand Amanda's novel sdt design for a Christmas Carol.

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These two very tall chairs stay there the whole time,

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and they are the office - Scrooge and Cratchett's offhce.

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When we are in the Scrooge and Marley office,

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this is flown in like that...

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and out again, and then this can open...

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like that.

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This is the double bed.

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Why are you flying it around?

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It's a little larger than it will be - I got over excited.

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Larger than that?

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No!

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It comes from off stage.

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Yes, it comes on and it will come through the back here.

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And it will come down the centre like that.

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And he's going to be able to trampoline on the bed as well?

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Yeah.

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It makes sense for a theatre built on

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a university campus to do more for young people, as cast and atdience.

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Lots of touring productions are harnessing the energy and ideas of

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young actors, in the same w`y that the Northcott used to in thd 19 0's.

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Now, the Theatre wants its own youth company.

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Like many of Paul's ideas, ht's a creative and financial galble

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If you said there's a hospital that's struggling for funds,

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and a theatre that's struggling for funds, you would say well obviously

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a hospital should maybe havd first call, but of course there is so much

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now that if you make people feel good, their health will be better,

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their lives will be enriched.

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You know, you can't just put everything down to a work b`sis

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and making people better medically.

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There's a lot to say for giving people an experience where they are

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going to something, and thex will feel enriched when they comd out.

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SINGING And as part of its future, the Northcott is reaching b`ck

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into the past.

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John Nettles returns to the theatre to launch

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its new graduate drama school.

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What Paul wants to do is to bring back an in-house company

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of young actors fresh out of drama school, and give them a couple of

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plays to do, which myself and Paul will direct over a period of maybe

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8-12 weeks, something like that

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With good scripts, to have them all here and doing

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their damndest and their best.

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And we hope that will be a massive success,

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because what it will do is give those young actors an opportunity of

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the same kind that myself and Suchet and Lindsay had all those ydars ago,

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and this cannot but be good.

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The idea goes down well with Northcott regulars, who are already

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sensing that things are changing.

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I'm really delighted to hear that they're going to offer some

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students, graduates, some work in theatre locallx.

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We've had a pretty difficult time financially, but now

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people are coming out of th`t.

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So people should be encouraged because this is our only thdatre,

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so we need to expand.

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I don't want see the mega productions here, H want to

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see local talent, rep theatre.

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I mean that would be fantastic.

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What they are able to put on here is often unusual, and it's

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broadened my horizons for theatre so it's very exciting having it here.

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But all that's for next year - more pressing now are the Attumn

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financial figures.

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The first real test of Paul's first six months in charge.

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How will they compare with the same period last year?

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This is last year?

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Yeah, 29th...

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So 158?

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And that's this year.

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So we went on sale a month darlier.

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And we've go another ?100,000?

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That's absolutely fantastic.

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Brilliant.

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That's made my day.

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Fantastic.

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It shows that we've sold about 40% more this year

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at this point than we did l`st year, which means that the markethng

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department is working well.

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Our ticket sales are improvhng, which is obviously very good news.

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So, ticket sales are up, the Arts Council is happy and has

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guaranteed three years fundhng how does Paul now rate his success?

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The thing I'm most pleased `bout is the fact that we are rettrning

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to producing our own work.

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I am very pleased about that.

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I'm very pleased that we've managed to organise that transition back to

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having our own shows in the theatre, and we're taking

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our audience with us.

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So I'm very pleased that advance sales of A Christmas Carol `re

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very strong - significantly better than our Christmas show last year.

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That's a big plus.

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I also think we have got a much improved relationship with

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the university.

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In fact I think it's a transformed relationship, and it's a proper

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partnership now where we can and do negotiate and disagree about stuff.

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But is one promising production enough to secure the the Northcott's

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future?

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However well you do, you're never going to know the shows

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that are going to sell best.

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It can never only be a mattdr of which certain shows sell best

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because the best show may not sell best, so you can never sit back

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doing this kind of job.

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Paul doesn't look like he'll be sitting back any time soon.

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He's got a theatre company to recruit, and another five in-house

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productions in the pipeline.

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And he's hoping that, in future the only dramas at the Northcott

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will be onstage.

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