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I'm on a wonderful Welsh adventure,

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as I discover more about four outstanding artists

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influenced by this great land.

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During the series, I'll be creating paintings inspired by their work.

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I'm going to have to paint in ways I've never done before.

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And at the end of it,

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I'll probably turn to you and I'll say,

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"Can you tell what it is yet?"

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We're in the South Wales Valleys,

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a landscape once dominated by King Coal.

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But most of the physical evidence of the collieries,

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like the old pitheads, has long gone.

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But for a Polish artist called Josef Herman,

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it was the miners themselves that were the inspiration.

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Josef Herman's paintings of Welsh miners

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have become some of the 20th century's

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most enduring images of working men.

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All his subjects of colliers

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were taken from one former pit town,

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Ystradgynlais in the Swansea Valley.

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Herman was one of the first artists ever

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to put the Welsh working classes on a pedestal

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and I just love these paintings.

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This banner - rough translation, Peace And Strength In Unity -

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is a reminder of the area's mining past.

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Josef Herman's art portrayed the miner as a hero.

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For him, it was all about the strength and the power

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of the working man.

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Josef Herman once said,

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"In labour, my spirit finds itself."

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You can see there was a strong moral core to his art

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and I've got to paint a miner in his style later.

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Sure, I can copy Herman's technique,

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but if I've got any chance of painting in his spirit,

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I've got to truly understand the man.

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I can't pretend to be a political artist - far from it.

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So this is going to be a challenging one.

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Josef Herman and his first wife Catriona

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arrived here in Ystradgynlais in 1944 for a short visit.

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What the Polish immigrant witnessed in this town

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not only changed his art forever, but it changed his life, too.

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He and Catriona briefly stayed with locals

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before moving into the Pen-y-Bont Inn,

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where Josef set up his studio.

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A coal field

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makes an odd landscape.

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And the mining village

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leaves little to the imagination.

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But I found my kind of interest here.

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On the face of it,

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it's hard to explain why a foreign artist

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would settle in such a small industrial town in South Wales.

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But he was a left-wing intellectual

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and this was an era when the working class

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were all concerned about self-betterment

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and politics was discussed on every street corner.

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That area over there was known as Red Square for that very reason.

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Josef decided to commit himself to Ystradgynlais

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when he bought an old soft drink factory

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and had it converted into a house and a studio.

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And I can just picture him getting up,

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as he did every morning at four o'clock,

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to go up there and paint while the miners walked past

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on their way to their job in the pit.

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'I've asked Josef's son David to meet me at his dad's old studio.

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Here we are. The old pop factory.

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'This is actually the first time he's ever been here

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'because David was born after Herman left the Valleys behind.'

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-ROLF LAUGHS

-David.

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-How very nice to meet you.

-Rolf Harris.

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Sorry you had to come through the rain.

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-It wouldn't be South Wales without it.

-Your dad's old studio, this was.

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It is absolutely amazing. My goodness. Just... Yes, amazing.

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What is it like to see your dad's work like this?

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Of course, I grew up surrounded by these.

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You know, these are like old friends, really,

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and you have a very strange relationship

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growing up with pictures, you know.

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What do you know about your father's early life in Warsaw?

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Terrible times. Terrible times. He was born in 1911.

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He grew up in a very poor home,

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his father was an illiterate cobbler,

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and it was a time...

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By the 1930s, anti-Semitism was getting a lot worse in Poland.

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It wasn't just something that started with the Nazis in Germany,

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there was also anti-Semitism in Poland.

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At a certain point in the late '30s, my father felt it was really...

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He was on the left, he was a Socialist,

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and he really thought it was time to get out.

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And he describes the scene

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when he said goodbye to his parents at the railway station,

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and his mother said to him, "Never come back. Never.

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"Never, never."

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And he was then incredibly lucky.

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He went to France - first to Belgium and then to France - to study art,

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and as the Germans invaded Belgium he went to France.

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As the Germans came to France,

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he managed to get a lift from an American woman called June Peaches July,

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who gave him a lift down to Bordeaux

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and he got on one of the last boats coming out of occupied France

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and came to Britain, and he came to Glasgow.

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Then in 1942, he heard from the Red Cross

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that his whole family had been killed by the Nazis,

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all gassed by the Nazis.

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Not just his family,

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but everyone he knew, really, in Warsaw who hadn't already got out.

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I wasn't there.

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Chance, luck. Nothing else.

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The others didn't deserve their death.

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I didn't deserve remaining alive.

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Finish.

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And he came to South Wales,

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not really knowing what he would find at all,

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and he came to this village.

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And then, on this bridge, in this village,

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in sunset with their heads lit like halos -

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"Like the old saints," he said -

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he saw these miners walking across the bridge.

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And something just clicked at that moment,

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and there's something about these sort of monumental shapes,

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these figures, set against sunset, coming back from work.

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It was in South Wales in this small mining village in the 1940s and '50s

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that he found his subject as an artist,

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he found his voice as an artist,

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he found the kinds of colours that mattered to him as an artist.

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So this time here, just mattered to him more than anything else.

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'Meeting Herman's son David'

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will really help me connect with his father,

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as I appreciate his style of painting

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was so affected by his past and by his politics.

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Back in Herman's day,

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there were thousands of coal miners in South Wales.

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But if my painting has any chance of doing him justice,

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I need to find a working collier.

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And that's a pretty formidable task in this day and age.

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# Working in a coal mine

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# Going down, down, down

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# Working in a coal mine

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# Whoop! About to slip down

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# Working in a coal mine

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# Going down, down, down

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# Working in a coal mine

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# Whoop! About to slip down

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# Five o'clock in the morning... #

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The Aberpergwm mine is a working pit just a few miles from Ystradgynlais.

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It was originally closed by the National Coal Board in 1985,

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following the miners' strike.

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'It's now privately owned,

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'and employs over 200 colliers to mine coal to power local industry.'

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Good luck down there, son.

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I don't want any trouble out of you!

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-Rolf, where's the wobble board?

-Just there!

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Give us a bit of a...

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MIMICS ROLF'S MOUTH MUSIC

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-HE LAUGHS

-What?

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I can't do it! Brilliant.

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It's based on a dog panting.

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HE PANTS

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And then just drop the bass notes in.

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THEY PANT

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THEY LAUGH

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As I meet the boys from the drift mine,

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I suddenly understand why Josef Herman so admired the miner.

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Josef Herman would've loved to have sketched these miners. G'day!

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He would've loved to have seen a pit once again thriving

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in the Welsh Valleys that he loved.

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'I've also spotted my subject,

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'a young apprentice called Carwyn Donovan,

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'who comes from four generations of miners.'

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..Carwyn is mechanical.

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We're doing a drawing of you some time.

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I think so!

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-Are you all right?

-I'm good, yeah. Fit and well.

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You'll gave to wash your hands now.

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And today, I'm going to paint Carwyn at the nearby Tower Colliery,

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which finally closed down three years ago.

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-Hey!

-How are you today?

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Nice to see you again!

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Even blacker than you were yesterday!

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Very good.

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Although Herman loved sketching,

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his drawings bore little resemblance to his finished paintings.

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This is why I make only notes from nature,

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and draw and paint from memory.

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The subject is then a lost world that I recover.

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But it was in his imagination that they really took form.

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Body shapes and features were exaggerated.

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Building on a rich palette,

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he'd play with light and with perspective.

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Herman used a combination of charcoal, Indian ink,

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watercolours and oils.

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Although Josef produced thousands of drawings,

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he only did a small number of paintings each year.

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It took Herman a good few days to do one painting.

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Producing a painting is a matter of long hours of labouring, labouring, labouring

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until it comes a moment of complete elevation,

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or a revelation even to yourself that you actually did it.

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It is as though you would suddenly be awakened from a pleasant dream.

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'But I want to try and do all this in one sitting.'

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-Are you happy with that position, Carwyn?

-Yeah. It's no problem, yeah.

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Cos it gives me a chance to show the body as well as just the face.

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So I've just got to work out what the body's going to look like.

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It's a really strong shape, that, you know...

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It reminds me of Herman's images of the miners -

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the gutsy, strong lines.

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You're actually from Ystradgynlais, are you?

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-That's right, yeah.

-Do you know a lot about Josef Herman?

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-Only from what my grandfather used to talk about him.

-Yeah?

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He used to mention him, you know.

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It was so unusual to have...

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Here was somebody...

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An outsider, who was from Poland, coming to Ystradgynlais,

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so that made him different from one point of view.

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And then the second part that was unusual

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was that he wanted to paint miners.

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He saw them as heroic figures?

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Well, obviously, you know.

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But as I say, it was just a way of life to us

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and to everyone from Ystradgynlais.

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Perhaps it took an outsider to realise it.

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My grandfather's generation

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would've been used to seeing portraits of the King and the Queen and army generals,

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-none of which meant much to us working class, you know?

-Yeah.

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-What do you think of Herman's art?

-Fascinating, really.

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As I say, us younger generations

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always look to our fathers and grandfathers

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as the heroes that Herman portrayed them as, you know.

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Yep.

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'We'll get back to the portrait later.

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'Herman often painted men down in the mine.

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'But like me,

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'he also liked to sketch people when they were off-guard, in the street.

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'In Ystradgynlais, he became so well-known

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'that locals nicknamed him Jo Bach,

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'that's Welsh for "Little Jo".

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'I don't know what he would've made of the didgeridoo, though!'

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Very good.

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ROLF PLAYS DIDGERIDOO

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Very spiritual, that is.

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-Yeah.

-And again, Rolf. And again!

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-And again?!

-Again!

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MOBILE RINGS

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I've been a fan of yours for so long.

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Do you know, you look a lot younger than I thought?

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-IN WELSH ACCENT:

-I was only a child then myself, you see?

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-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Enough fun for now.

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I'm off to see those who had a big impact on Herman's life here.

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That'll do it, whoa, stop. Thank you.

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'I'm meeting some of Joe's old pals at one of his favourite haunts, the Miners' Welfare Hall.

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'It's now home to the Josef Herman Foundation.

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'It was built on penny-a-week donations from colliers,

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'and Joe used to hold weekly art classes here.'

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-From Joe Bach.

-From Joe Bach.

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'Carole Hopkin and Betty Rae Watkins were two of his closest friends.'

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He wanted to stay in a mining village, so my aunt and uncle,

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Dai and Peggy, invited him to stay

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in Ystradgynlais, in their cottage,

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two up, two down, no bathroom.

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As soon as he arrived in Ystradgynlais, he knew this was the place he wanted to be.

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What was his impact on the village?

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People like Joe don't come around often.

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To me, he was the first man I really fell in love with.

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It's the first time I've admitted this.

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Every Thursday night, in my grandparents' house, the literati of the valley would meet.

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Writers, artists, politicians.

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The voices would rise and we'd listen and we thought,

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"Something important is happening, something very exciting is happening."

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They'd get very volatile, sometimes, because they were all strongly political and socialist people.

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-Left wing?

-Very left wing.

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He had this great humanity

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that came out from him.

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He always had time for people.

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He was here for 11 years, but when he left,

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I gather he never forgot this place.

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No, never.

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When he died, his widow, Nini, sent his ashes to be buried, scattered in the studio.

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They were scattered under the fig tree, so that Joe came home.

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In his memorial service, he'd asked that the Welsh national anthem be sung.

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That was very moving, that he'd given instructions to the very end,

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to mention Wales and to honour Wales.

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Joe Herman left Ystradgynlais in 1955,

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because the damp weather was affecting his health.

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But the community was already changing,

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and the pit he'd known so well on the outskirts of town shut down.

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Then, 30 years later, came the miners' strike of the 1980s,

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followed by the closure of pit after pit.

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South Wales' mining communities were devastated.

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Josef Herman didn't die until 2000, so I'm keen to know

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from his son, David, what his father thought about the whole thing.

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What would your dad have thought about the decline of coal mining in Wales?

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He'd have been so sad to have seen what happened,

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both to the miners individually that he knew, to the community, to the whole industry around the country.

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He still lived to see the coal miners strike in the 1980s and that affected him profoundly.

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It was because it was a way of life.

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When I say that there was a tradition which he felt he belonged to,

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what he called his family tree of artists who had also painted workers, that tradition, too,

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was coming to an end.

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I think he had that sense, late in his life, that this really was a moment of change,

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something coming to an end which had mattered a great deal to him.

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By the early 1990s,

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the landscape of the South Wales Valleys had changed dramatically from Herman's day.

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At one time, there were 600 coal mines in Wales.

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Then, in 2008, this mine, Tower Colliery in Hirwaun,

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was the last deep mine in Wales to close.

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It brought to an end over a century of coal-mining history in this part of the world.

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I think it's fitting that I'm painting Carwyn

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at the Tower Colliery, as a tribute to all Welsh miners through history.

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And you know, I believe it's a venue that Herman would have approved of.

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What's the community like now in Ystradgynlais, now that the mine there

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has closed down?

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Well, Ystradgynlais hasn't been as hardly hit

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as other Valleys communities, but it definitely had an effect,

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the pit closure programme decimated most communities.

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There was that old saying, you close a pit, you close a community.

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After British Coal closed most of the collieries in South Wales they came to close this colliery,

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they said the place was geologically unviable.

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The men working here knew that wasn't true, so they got

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all their redundancy money together, pooled it together

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and bought the colliery between themselves. They ran it at a profit for 13 years.

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It closed about two or three years ago, I think it was.

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If they could work this at a profit

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for another 13 years,

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you wonder how many of the other mines that were closed down would still have been able to work.

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That's it, exactly.

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What does it mean to you to be a miner?

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It's definitely more than just a job.

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It's everything.

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I couldn't imagine doing anything else.

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Really?

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That's what I always wanted to do and I'm glad I've had the opportunity to do it.

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I think that's about it. What do you think?

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Well...

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It's amazing. Any chance of getting a print?

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-Of this? No problem, we'll do that straight away.

-Thank you very much.

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Excellent, thank you.

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'But I'm wondering whether my painting is all wrong.

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'I'm really worried that it's not Herman-esque enough.

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'I think I need to visit the Glynn Vivian Gallery in Swansea

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'to see Herman's most iconic painting of Welsh miners up close.

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'Hopefully that will tell me whether I've got my painting right, or not.

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'Herman painted this mural for the 1951 Festival of Britain.

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'It shows miners resting after a long shift.'

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Seeing this mural up close,

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I realise that

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my painting of Carwyn is a bit too...

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I can't think of any word to call it other than a bit too pretty-pretty.

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It's a bit too realistic, it's not symbolic enough.

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I think I'd like to try and do something

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like another painting of Carwyn,

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where I try and get that primitive,

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age-old feeling,

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like the Easter Island statues, with him more sort of slab-like,

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and without losing his identity,

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to try and get that feeling of the strength of these massive figures.

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So, I'm going back to the drawing board and I'm starting all over,

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but I don't feel too bad about redoing my painting from scratch.

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Even the great man himself struggled to find perfection.

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Probably, I should say,

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every second picture is destroyed.

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That's to say that the dissatisfaction

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is so great,

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that you just want to...

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This whole image, wipe out from the existence of the world.

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It has never been, and start again.

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Well, I'm back in my own studio now.

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I've got a big blow-up photograph of one of the characters from the Josef Herman mural.

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I've also got...

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the original painting that I did of Carwyn.

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To me, that looks nothing like the heroic statuesque figures that Herman created.

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I've put some background on the canvas and I'm going to get into it and start, see how we go.

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Try and get this pudgy arm going down here.

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Big, sausage-shaped fingers going down there.

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That's already looking more like a Herman, I think.

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Herman chose to

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really forget about their features, not make a big thing of them, because he wanted them to be

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like heroic sculptural shapes, he didn't want to have individual people recognised, I think.

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Yeah, that's good.

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I could do a bit more white on the top of that, I think.

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Yeah, can't find an orange at the moment, so I'll have to make one up.

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And a bit of light coming on that cheek there, like that.

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And sort of a dimmer light coming down there.

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I'm liking this very much.

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Very much enjoying it.

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Just look straight at me for a while. That's good.

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And the light coming on this side of the face...

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You haven't had those teeth whitened, have you?

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Yes, that's good. And a great big boot there, the huge miner's

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reinforced solid boot.

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They've got metal toecaps, so if anything falls on them, it won't destroy their toes and their feet.

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He had a pair of gloves, I seem to remember,

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slung on his belt.

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What I'm going to try to do now

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is try to establish some of these colours, because they had a very bright orange top,

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Carwyn's crew and his team of miners that were working with him.

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That's the way

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Carwyn's helmet looked when I saw him.

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But then I've got to go back to the Josef Herman feel and get

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some lighter colour on here.

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Purple matter,

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and we'll do...

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And those big sausages of fingers.

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Oh, yes. Although it looks nothing like

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Carwyn, it looks as if it's catching the light from something there.

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Those eyes are there in the darkness,

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and I'll imagine all that black coal dust on his face.

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I must say, it really helped me, going to the Glynn Vivian Gallery and seeing that big mural

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of Josef Herman's that he'd done for...

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the 1951 exhibition.

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It was just wonderful, because I'd lost my way, I think,

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trying to recreate a painting in his style.

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I was all over the place.

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If you're painting and it's not working for you...

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Everybody struggles at some time, to get the thing to work the way they want it to.

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I think you've just got to persevere with it.

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Yeah, I want it to stay a bit

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dingy there.

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I'm liking that.

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Yeah, rather like that.

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That should be in shadow from the hand like that, so you get that shadow coming round.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Josef Herman left the Valleys

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and moved away, but for the rest of his life,

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his heart was still in Wales, and he drew on his memories to paint miners

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and to recreate the mining scene that he'd known so well.

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He thought that miners were real heroes,

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and having met Carwyn and his mates... I couldn't agree with him more.

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We all need heroes in our lives.

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OK, let's sign this.

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