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'If I ask you to name Shakespeare's most famous play of all, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
'there's a fairly good chance you'll plump for Hamlet.' | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
'But quite why that should be remains a mystery.' | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
It connects with something very primal... | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
It exists in the public consciousness | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
as this icon of theatre and culture. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
It's woven into the fabric of our lives. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
than are dreamt of in our philosophy. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
'In 2008, I was asked to play Hamlet at the Royal Shakespeare Company.' | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
'For any actor, that's an offer of a lifetime.' | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
'But not without its challenges.' | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
This was something that I wanted to do and couldn't say no to, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
but it was, and remained until the final performance, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
utterly terrifying. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Another hit; what say you? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
This sounds ludicrous and pretentious and pompous. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It's just a play, it's pretending to be someone | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
and saying some words... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Am I a coward? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
..and yet, because there's something special about it, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
it does things to you. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
'Why it has this effect is something I still can't answer.' | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
It was written a long time ago. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
It shouldn't be relevant and contemporary. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
It shouldn't be. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
To try and work out what makes this play so unique, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
I'm going to meet with directors... | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
I think that's why people didn't notice. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
..historians... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
-It's incredibly rare. -Only two in the world? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
..and some other Hamlets. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
We know that this particular role is also like a sharing of one's soul. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
So what is it about this character that is still so compelling, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
400 years after he was created? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
The first trick for any actor coming to Hamlet is to avoid | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
being overwhelmed by the very notion of it. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
One of the things when you come to Hamlet is ridding yourself | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
of the baggage that comes with it, and trying to just tell the story, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and we're in the RSC shop here, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
where things have been appropriated and made into just about anything, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
and this is the classy stuff. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
Oh, look! | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Alas, poor Yorick. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
This is Hamlet, the flickbook. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
That's it summed up in 30 seconds. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The manga Hamlet. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Hamlet seems to be addressed as a sort of androgynous superhero. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
I mean, it's a choice. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
'And, of course, there's a smorgasbord of different Hamlets.' | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Kevin Kline. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
Mel Gibson. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Some Scottish bloke. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Kenneth Branagh. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
Derek Jacobi. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
This play is so deeply ingrained in our popular culture. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
What's difficult when you come to perform it is extracting yourself | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
from the cliche and the fact that every line seems to be a quotation. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
It's just that everywhere I go | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
it's the same old thing. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
All anyone wants me to say is | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
"To be, or not to be." | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
That is the question. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
the slings and arrows... | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
Yes. It's either that or... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
'Almost everyone can quote a line from Hamlet.' | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Do the bit about "Alas, poor Yorick"! | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Hamlet is clearly a character that everyone seems to know about. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
But how did that happen? Why this play? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
On the face of it, the story line isn't something that necessarily | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
chimes with the everyday experience of most people. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Monarchy, madness, murder and suicide, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
yet however melodramatic the premise, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
somehow the play keeps feeling relevant and being sought out | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
by successive generations. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Is that just down to the plot? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
So what is Hamlet actually about? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
Well, Hamlet is the story of the Prince of Denmark, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
whose father, the King of Denmark, gets murdered, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and then comes back as a ghost to tell his son, the Prince, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
that he must avenge his death. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
The person who murdered the king is Hamlet's uncle, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
who's now married Hamlet's mother. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Got that? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
It is complicated, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
but when we first meet Hamlet it is clear. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
He is grief stricken. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
'His mother's marriage to his uncle has taken place with unseemly haste, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
'hot on the heels of his father's death.' | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Hamlet! | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
'Seemingly alone in finding that remotely distasteful, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
'Hamlet is angry and isolated.' | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
'Tis sweet and commendable in your nature, Hamlet, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
To give these mourning duties to your father: | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
But, you must know, your father lost a father; | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
That father lost, lost his. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
But to persever | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
In obstinate condolement is a course | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Of impious stubbornness. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
At the beginning of the play, obviously, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
he's dealing with the death of his father. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
And he's also dealing with the fact that everyone around him | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
seems to have moved on absurdly quickly from this fact. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
If you're going to do a play after somebody's just died, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
then Hamlet's the play to do. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
It's an amazing expression of grief. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
My mother died just before I did it. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
She knew I was going to do it, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
and hoped to stay alive in order to see it, but she didn't, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
and, of course, that had an effect | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
on the playing of it, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
because it was my gift to her, really. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Losing a parent is hugely changing for you, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
and grief is a sort of ghastly, immovable thing. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Certainly, when you are in the kind of sharp end of it, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
it feels engulfing and intractable. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
'This play is about a murdered father and his lonely, grieving son.' | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
'A grief that has resonated down the centuries.' | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
'So, who created this extraordinary character, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
'and where did he come from?' | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
'There's a lot we don't know about Shakespeare's life, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
'but there are a few things we can fairly safely assume.' | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
'He was born and raised in Stratford-Upon-Avon, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
'where his father was mayor of the town, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
'which means William will have been entitled to go | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
'to the local grammar school, King Edward's.' | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
Hic, haec, hoc. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
STUDENTS: Hic, haec, hoc. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Good. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Hunc, hanc, hoc. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
STUDENTS: Hunc, hanc, hoc. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
'I'm sitting in on a lesson that the young William | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
'would almost definitely have endured.' | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
'Latin.' | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
They're clearly very proud of their connections. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
The photo on the wall, just to intimidate the schoolboys of today. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
Not much to aspire to(!) | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Latin has been being taught in this very room | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
to schoolboys in Stratford for hundreds of years. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Shakespeare almost certainly learned Latin here. He learned rhetoric. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
Many of the things that would have | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
contributed to his skills as a playwright. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
There may be a playwright in this room now. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Its impossible to know from this distance | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
what influences formed Shakespeare's genius, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
but there are some intriguing coincidences | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
that are hard to overlook. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Shakespeare married at 18, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
and had three children by the time he was 24. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
By the time William was 30, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
around the time it is thought he wrote Hamlet, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
his father was aging and ill. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
And then Shakespeare suffered a terrible tragedy | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
when his 11-year-old son died. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
He was called Hamnet. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
It is impossible, I think, not to understand that the name Hamlet | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
was charged with the identity | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
of his 11-year-old dead son. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
And part of the intensity of this play depends upon | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
the familiarity of Shakespeare and his world with the graveyard | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
and what it meant to bury your fondest hopes. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
This theme of bereavement and loss takes a surprising turn | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
when Hamlet is handed some dramatic news. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
The ghost of his dead father has been seen | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
walking the battlements of the castle. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
-I think I saw him yesternight. -Saw who? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
My Lord, the King, your father. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
The King, my father? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
The appearance of the ghost becomes the engine of the play. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
I'm visiting the replica of the Globe Theatre | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
on the South bank of the Thames, where, around 1601, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Shakespeare's actors first performed Hamlet. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Here, today, they are running the opening scenes. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
So this is where we see Hamlet meeting the ghost of his dead father | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
for the first time. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Where wilt thou lead me? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Speak; I'll go no further. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Mark me. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
I will. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
I am thy father's spirit, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Doom'd for a certain time to walk the night, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
And for the day confined to fast in fires, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Be burnt and purged away. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
List, list, O, list! | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
If ever thou didst thy dear father love. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
O God! | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
-Murder! -Murder most foul. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Haste me to know't, that I, with wings as swift | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
As meditation or the thoughts of love, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
May sweep to my revenge. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
I find thee apt; but know, thou noble youth, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
The serpent that did sting thy father's life | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Now wears his crown. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
O my prophetic soul! | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
My uncle? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
The ghost has confirmed what Hamlet had feared - that his father has been killed by his uncle. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
It falls to him to avenge this murder, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
but is he capable of seeing it through? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Everyone knew in Shakespeare's time, as everyone knows now, still, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
that a revenge play, a play in which someone, a son, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
is called upon to avenge his father, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
is a play in which a terrible fate will befall the avenger. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Hamlet is a dead man from act one. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
He knows it and we know it. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
'This call to arms has come from a ghost, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
'a supernatural visitor from the other side.' | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
'What would this have meant to Shakespeare's audience?' | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
'I've come to meet historian Justin Champion, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
'who is an expert in the world of 17th century religion.' | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
So, what would a ghost have meant to an Elizabethan audience? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Well, I think the first thing is that an Elizabethan audience | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
would not have been surprised to see a ghost. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Ghosts were everywhere. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
So, to most of that audience, ghosts were things that existed? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
So there wouldn't have been the shock, you know, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
if a ghost walks past us now, we'll be a little bit surprised. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
Well, a little! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
A little bit, a little bit surprised, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
but for the Elizabethan, the Stuart audience, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
ghosts are part of the world they live in. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
The spirit world and the human world are very permeable, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
so they wouldn't have been surprised at all. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
They would have asked themselves what sort of ghost is it? Good or bad? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Right. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
'Apparently, there were four options.' | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
This ghost could be the devil. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
It could be sent by the devil or the devil in person. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Right. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
The ghost could be a projection of imagination. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
The person is somehow deluded or deranged. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
The ghost could be the result of imposture | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
- locals maybe confecting an illusion of a ghost, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
or the ghost could be a wandering soul | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
come back to avenge some act of injustice, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
so there is a science of what a ghost meant and how it would behave. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
The ghost's visit propels Hamlet and the play forward, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
so any actor playing the part has to decide what the ghost means to them. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
There have been famous productions where the ghost is | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
a figment of Hamlet's own imagination, and I think that's | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
all a very interesting take on it, actually. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
It's not what we did, so it's not... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
For me, that was Dad there. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
Adieu. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Adieu. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
Hamlet. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Remember me! | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
'So, Hamlet is burdened with the task | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
'of avenging his father's death.' | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
'What makes this even worse | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
is the dark and dangerous world he lives in.' | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Wow! | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
'The king has enlisted Hamlet's friends to spy on him.' | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
'The king's minister, meanwhile, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
'devices his own scheme involving his own daughter.' | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
'Polonius believes Hamlet's distress is caused by his love-sickness | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
'for Ophelia, so he spies on them both.' | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Where's your father? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
At home, my Lord. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
We are on edge throughout the play of Hamlet because of the sense | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
of people being constantly overheard. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
We never quite know who is on which side. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
There's layer upon layer of surveillance going on there. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
This is a court full of intrigue, full of spies. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
As Hamlet struggles to make sense of the chaos in his head | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
and all around him, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
Shakespeare allows us to hear exactly | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
what his troubled protagonist is going through. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
We, the audience, become his confidante. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
He uses soliloquies to speak to us directly. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
A soliloquy is when a character | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
speaks their inner thoughts out loud, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
debates their inner arguments with themselves, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
and hopefully finds some kind of way forward. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
As an actor, when you come to play those soliloquies, you can make a choice. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
You can either speak these speeches into the air | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
as if to yourself, to the world around you, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
or you can acknowledge the fact that you are in a theatre | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and that the audience are all around you, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and you can use them as another character in your play. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
You can speak the speeches right at them. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
'Right at the heart of the play, Hamlet has a devastating soliloquy | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
'that has become the most famous speech in the history of theatre, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
'possibly even all of literature.' | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
'He asks, what is the point?' | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
To be, or not to be: | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
that is the question: | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
And by opposing end them? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Every individual confronts these questions privately, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
and then to have a play that | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
confronts them publically, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
and that confronts them | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
in a voice of such control, such thoughtfulness, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
such power, that something is happening on the stage for us, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
so it might not have to happen to us, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
and that's extraordinarily powerful. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
To die, to sleep; | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub; | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
Because Hamlet is alone on stage, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
and because his most characteristic of speech is the question, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
inevitably, we, in the audience, as we watch it, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
or we as readers, as we read it, we get drawn in. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
We ask those questions of ourselves | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
and try to come up with our own answers, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
so the character of Hamlet becomes profoundly personal to us. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
There's something about it that transcends its time and place. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
On some level we can all identify with those moment of crisis, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
and those moments where it really feels | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
that the only solution would be to escape. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
I think that's why it is so resonant. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
'It's powerful to ask those questions now.' | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
'In Shakespeare's time, it was revolutionary.' | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
This is not just a state of crisis, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
this is a man thinking about killing himself. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Suicide, in the entirety of this period is absolutely forbidden. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
Suicide is illegal - if you are convicted of suicide, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
you will be taken out to the crossroads outside the village | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
or town and buried with a stake through your heart. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Suicide is absolutely traumatic for this culture. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
That's what's so shocking about this scene is that here is a man, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
in one sense, rationally weighing up the options. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
This is clearly not somebody possessed by the devil. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
This is somebody trying to think through for themselves, and I think, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
for many in the audience, this would be very worrying. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
But that the dread of something after death, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
No traveller returns, puzzles the will | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
And makes us rather bear those ills we have | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Than fly to others that we know not of? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
'Hamlets soliloquies are so famous, so eloquent and so powerful | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
'that it can feel like quite a responsibility to actually | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
'deliver them.' | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
I suppose, for those moments, it's a bit like doing a one man show, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
in that there's no other actors to bounce off. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
I think, when those moments work, and it's just you with | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
these incredible words and extraordinary arguments, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I think it's very empowering. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
It can also be kind of terrifying | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
because it's pretty safely net free | 0:21:51 | 0:21:57 | |
- there's nobody else to rely on | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
and there's nobody else to help you out if you forget a bit. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
'Since playing Hamlet myself, I've been fascinated with how | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
'other actors have approached this most intimidating of roles.' | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Someone did say to me early on, "Learn your lines!" | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
And I thought, "Of course | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
I'm going to learn my lines," | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
but then, when you do sit down and look, there's quite a lot! | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
'Jude Law played Hamlet in London and on Broadway in 2009.' | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
There are lines like "To be, or not to be", which are so well-known | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
it's almost impossible to break the expectation of them coming. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Did you have a way of coping with that? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Would you embrace that full-on? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Would you try and sneak round the side of them? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
Oh, dear. It's so revealing, this, isn't it? I think I tried all that. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Good! | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
I think I tried them all, but then, you know, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
I remember also just feeling like, "Just get on with it." | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
What did you make of "To be, or not to be?" | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
The specific meaning of it is quite hard to grasp, isn't it? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Quite what he's saying at any given moment. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
I think that was the little hook I clung on to, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
that he didn't know himself. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
It was all question, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
and each discovery leads to the next, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
and to the next, and to the next, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
and there's a sense that he's really trying to figure it out. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
'It has been said that there are as many different Hamlets | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
'as there are actors to play him, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
'and that scope for reinterpretation seems to be | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
'part of what makes this role so constantly fascinating.' | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
We know that this particular role is also like a sharing of one's soul, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
so you're not just going to see your preferred actor, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
but you're also going to see them perhaps bearing a side | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
of themselves, and revealing a side of themselves that's really intimate. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
I think of all the parts I've played, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
that one feels the most transparent. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
When you go and see it, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
you're seeing something of the actor. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Something very personal, private about the actor who's playing it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
Always, I think. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
It's not a mask you can hide behind. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
There is something extraordinary about stripping away | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
your acting persona, really. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Did you find it quite exposing, then? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Yeah. I think, in the end, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
you are standing on the stage as David Tennant. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
'None of which helps to make that most famous of speeches | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
'any easier to cope with.' | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Quite often - I'm sure you've had this - people say it along with you. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Yeah. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
That's fine. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I had one woman who was doing it just before I said it... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
-..which was infuriating! -Yes. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
'One the most iconic and influential takes on Hamlet | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
'was in an RSC production of the 60s.' | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Look at this handsome young devil! | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Look how handsome! | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
'David Warner played Hamlet in 1965.' | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
'He was a moody, strident, student prince.' | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
'At that time, at the age of 24, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
'he was thought to be the youngest actor | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
to have played the part professionally.' | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
Saying "To be, or not to be" for the first time out loud, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
did you have any particular philosophy to it? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
No, no. Things happened instinctively. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
There's one thing that I have to say. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
I didn't really understand Shakespeare's words. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Right. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
-I had to get most of it explained to me. -Right, yeah. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I mean, they used to say lines that I had no idea what it meant. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
I don't know if that ever happened to you. I'm sure it did. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
-Well, even by the end, you still weren't quite sure? -Well, not quite sure! | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
I think actors should admit to that more readily. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
'David's Hamlet was a huge box office hit, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
'though it took a while for all the critics to catch up.' | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
Some of the reactions to your Hamlet, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
which range from the effusive - | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
this is the most extraordinary performance you've ever seen - | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
to some quite snippy criticism. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
I happen to have on me the bad reviews. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
"I would sooner the town crier spoke Shakespeare's lines as to | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
hear David Warner." | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
That's pretty good, isn't it? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
"Tiresome, perverse, indulgent." | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
Wow. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
There was one person who, when they heard I was going to do it, said, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
"This actor cannot do it." | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Right. Thanks. That's helpful, isn't it(!) | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
"I've seen him, and I don't think he's going to be able to do it." | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
And that was before. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
How did that feel? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
-It wasn't very nice. -No. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
Many people come to Hamlet with preconceptions or | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
expectations of what the play should be, but in fact, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
there is not even a definitive text of the play. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
There are three different sources. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Copies of these are extremely valuable and precious. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
I've never seen them all up close, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
but at the British Library they have examples of each one. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
Tim Pye, the curator, has agreed to open up the safe. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
Here we have the precious cargo. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
'There is a first version, the so-called bad quarto, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
'believed to be cobbled together from an actor's memory.' | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
'The second, much longer version, possibly printed | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
'to replace the bad quarto | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
'and a third version in The First Folio, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
'a collection of Shakespeare's plays published after his death.' | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
Do you want to open that one up to the title page? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
I'm allowed to touch? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Extraordinary. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
'On the table in front of me are about £10 million worth of books.' | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
So, this is the first quarto. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Often known as the bad quarto. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
That's right. I think the bad quarto is a bit of a misnomer. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Why is that? | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
Because I think it has merits. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
It is quite quick-paced for a Hamlet. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
Yes. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
-Because it's about half the length of the other two later versions. -Yes. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
It includes stage directions that aren't included elsewhere | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
that people still reference nowadays. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Right. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
So I think "bad" is a little unfair. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
There are two known copies. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:22 | |
-Only two? -It's incredibly rare. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
-Only two in the world? -Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
There's only two. I had no idea. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Judging the versions against each other, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
there are many surprising differences. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
There's one on the very first line. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
"Who's there", which is quite a famous opening to a play. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
Is "Stand: who is that?", in this bad quarto, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
which is quite markedly different. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Although it is much shorter, | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
there are certain details that only feature in the first quarto. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
"Enter Ofelia playing on a Lute, and her haire downe singing." | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Playing on a lute? It's going to limit your casting options, as well! | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
'And perhaps the most interesting | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
'are the differences in that most famous of soliloquies.' | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
The thing that we probably recognise as being the biggest | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
difference is the most famous speech... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
..in the English language. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
Indeed, indeed. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
"To be, or not to be: that is the question:", becomes | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
"To be, or not to be, I there's the point." | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
"To Die, to sleep, is that all?" That's quite a cut. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
"The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune..." | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
That's all gone. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
It has all gone. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
All gone. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
It does sound like a poorly-remembered version | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
of the speech we know. | 0:29:58 | 0:29:59 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
Half-phrases are in there, and the sense is in there. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
But who's to say this isn't the original, of course? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Well, indeed, or do we just think that's poor compared to | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
the much more eloquent and elegant one we now know? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
If this was the only surviving text of Hamlet, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
would we denigrate it as much as we do? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Well, quite. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
I quite like the fact that it's been edited in places to shorten it. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Oh, I think it can do without edit, definitely. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Yeah, yeah. Hamlet can sometimes be a bit long. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
It can be a bit long. I've heard that. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Some productions can be a little dry. I wouldn't know about that. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
No, I think, absolutely. This must have charged along, which is great. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
'Whichever version you use, Hamlet's dilemmas remain the same.' | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
'Having doubted the point of life itself, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
'Hamlet starts to doubt his mission.' | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
'Should he trust the ghost? Can he be sure Claudius is guilty?' | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
'He devises a plan to expose the king.' | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
This is one Lucianus, nephew to the king. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
'He enlists a group of travelling players to enact a play | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
'mirroring the king's murder.' | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
'If Claudius flinches, he will have the proof he requires.' | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
How fares my Lord? | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Give me some... | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Give me some light! | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
'The king reacts.' | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
'Hamlet is vindicated.' | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
What, frighted with false fire! | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Imagine what it must be like to realise | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
that your worst fears are right. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
Because it's all been | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
almost dealable with | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
up until this point, but now I've got to do something. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
Hamlet gets the perfect opportunity to exact his revenge | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
when he passes the king alone, praying. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
But will he be able to seize the moment? | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
In our production, director Greg Doran had a notion | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
to draw out the tension. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
I think it is a thriller. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
I mean, once I had that in my head | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
that, psychologically, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
it was a thriller, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
then what you need to do is keep | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
making the audience believe that they've never seen it before | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
and don't know what's going to happen. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
When, for instance, he happens, after the play, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
to bump into his uncle Claudius praying, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
and he's suddenly has the idea that he could, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
while the man is praying, kill him, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
having absolutely in his mind established his guilt. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Thriller-wise, you in the audience should be thinking, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
"He's going to do it." | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Now might I do it pat, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
now he is praying; | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
And now I'll do't. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
'We took the interval right there, in the middle of the line.' | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Again, quiet a potentially bold decision to take the interval, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
in fact, in the middle of a verse line. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
The scholars were appalled. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
What was the actual line? So you went... | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
"Now might I do it pat, now he's praying, and now I'll do it." | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Interval. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
Blackout, yeah. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
How many of the audience do you think went, "My god, he killed his uncle"? | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
I don't know. I hope some did. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
But did we start the second half..? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Did we re-run the beginning of the second half, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
or did you start, "And so he goes to heaven"? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
No. I started with a knife above his head. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
The lights went up, like nothing had happened for 15 minutes, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
"And so he goes to heaven, and so am I revenged." | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
-And, using the audience, talked myself out of it. -Right. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
-VOICEOVER: -And so he goes to heaven; | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
And so am I revenged. That would be scann'd: | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
A villain kills my father; and for that, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
I, his sole son, do this same villain send | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
To heaven. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
O, this is hire and salary, not revenge. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Hamlet doesn't know what he is going to do, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
so as Hamlet raises the knife above Claudius's head, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
in that nanosecond, he believes he's going to kill him. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
It doesn't last, and he doesn't because, again, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
he's straightjacketed by his own morality and his own fears, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
and his own humanity, you could say. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
That makes me like him all the more, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
but it makes him like himself all the less. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Hamlet asks some very serious questions | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
about the morality of revenge, the morality of killing. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
We think of that as a very modern, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
21st century thing, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
but Shakespeare is there before us. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
'Hamlet is a deeply reluctant revenge hero,' | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
'but in the very next scene he will slip dangerously out of character.' | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
He will come straight. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I'll silence me in here. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Hamlet's behaviour has alarmed the king and his councillor, Polonius. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
Hamlet is summoned to his mother's bedroom... | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Mother? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
..where Polonius is hiding, eavesdropping on their conversation. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Mother. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:52 | |
Withdraw, I hear him coming. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
Hamlet arrives ready to confront his mother about her marriage, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
but in a moment of madness will do something catastrophic. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
Now, mother, what's the matter? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Hamlet, thou hast thy father much offended. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
Mother, you have my father much offended. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Have you forgot me? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
No, by the rood, not so: | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
You are the queen, your husband's brother's wife; | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
And - would it were not so! - you are my mother. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Nay, then, I'll set those to you that can speak. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Come, come, and sit you down; you shall not budge; | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
You go not till I set you up a glass | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Where you may see the inmost part of you. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
What wilt thou do? Thou wilt not murder me? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
Help, help, help! | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
Help, help! | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
How now! A rat? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Dead, for a ducat! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
Dead! | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Impulsively, Hamlet lashes out, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
believing he has finally caught the king, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
but instead, he has murdered Polonius. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
I think it happens in the heat of a very hot moment, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
before he can really examine what he's doing. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
From that moment, as he looks down at Polonius's corpse, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
I think he realises there's no going back and nothing will ever be the same now, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:13 | |
and I've probably started on the path to my own destruction. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:20 | |
'But although everything has changed for Hamlet in that moment, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
'the scene is not over.' | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
'Something has been brewing for a long time.' | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
'He still has to confront the person he feels has betrayed him most.' | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
'His mother.' | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
You modulate into a total disgust at what she's doing. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
'In this scene, all Hamlet's unspoken resentment | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
'and fury at his mother comes tumbling out.' | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
'He is disgusted by her inconstancy, her stupidity and, worst of all, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
'as he sees it, her promiscuity.' | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
You cannot call it love, for at your age | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
The heyday in the blood is tame, it's humble, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
And waits upon the judgment: and what judgment | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Would step from this to this? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
O Hamlet, speak no more: | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Thou turn'st mine eyes into my very soul; | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
And there I see such black and grained spots | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
As will not leave their tinct. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
Nay, but to live | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
In the rank sweat of an enseamed bed, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Stew'd in corruption, honeying and making love | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Over the nasty sty - | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Speak to me no more! | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
'A son confronting his own mother's sexuality is an uneasy enough | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
'prospect for a modern audience, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
'but Hamlet has barely been out of performance in 400 years, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
'so previous generations have clearly found their own way | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
'of coming to terms with such taboo material.' | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Ah, Michael! | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
-David. -Hello. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
-How are you doing? -Fine, fine. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Thank you for coming along. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
'Theatre historian Michael Dobson has tracked the stage history | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
'of what has become known as the "closet scene".' | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Well, closet in Shakespeare's time means a kind of private office | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
it's in your private apartments, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
-it's near your bedroom, but it's not actually a bedroom. -Right. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
'One of the earliest representations we have of this scene | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
'shows Thomas Betterton playing Hamlet in the 17th century,' | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
'with two chairs placed a fair distance apart.' | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
Shall I be mother? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:36 | |
Yeah, you be Gertrude, you sit there, and Betterton has been | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
sitting down, talking to his mother, apparently from about this distance. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
With tea and sandwiches, possibly? | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
-Well, yeah. It's all terribly respectful. -It is. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
'Only in later productions does the scene tend to move to the bedroom, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
'with Sigmund Freud's influence suggesting that Hamlet | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
'might actually be in love with his mother.' | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
It doesn't get manically all about what they're doing on the bed | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
until J Barrymore in the States in the 1920's, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
and he's read Freud and he says that, as far as he's concerned, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
Hamlet is mother-fixated. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
He decides to actually stage it that way, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
decides that his Hamlet is explained by the relationship with his mother. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
So, how much do we know about his staging in particular? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
What did he do? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:22 | |
He kissed his mother on the lips. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
That's the big sign that he gives that this is really | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
what it's all about and that it's not normal. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Right. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
He's the first one who does that, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
and that line is then taken up by Olivier. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
I must be cruel, only to be kind: | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
The trouble I have is that being repulsed by your parents' sexuality | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
is not the same as being drawn to it. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
It strikes me that there's an absolute childlike fury | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
and disgust at that, rather than any kind of romantic yearning. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
I never wanted to snog my mother in that scene, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
I just wanted to slap her. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
But I think one of the reasons that this scene | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
sounds so particularly excessive and erotic and charged | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
is that Hamlet is so wonderfully off the point. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
I mean, he's just killed somebody, and she says, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
"Oh, my God, you've just killed somebody!", | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
and he says, "Never mind that. Let's talk about your sex life." | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
It's so out of balance that he is continually | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
going on about his mother's sex life, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
when there is this corpse here that he's just killed, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
that it makes it stand out so. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
'However you decide to play the closet scene, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
'by the end of it, Hamlet is at the mercy of the man he loathes.' | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
After Hamlet has killed Polonius, things are changed for ever. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
The king, now knowing his life is in danger, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
is determined to get rid of Hamlet and sends him away overseas. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
Events are spiralling out of control. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
From here on in, the play shifts a gear. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
'Hamlet is banished to England and although he eventually | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
'manages to escape his captors and return to Denmark, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
'in his absence, Ophelia, his one-time love | 0:42:16 | 0:42:22 | |
'and the daughter of Polonius, has lost her mind and drowned herself.' | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
'Unaware of this, on his way back to Elsinore, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
'Hamlet happens upon a freshly dug grave, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
'little knowing it is meant for Ophelia. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Here, in one of the play's most recognisable moments, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Hamlet comes face-to-face with mortality. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
His clutch. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
How long will a man lie the earth ere he rot? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Faith, if he be not rotten before he die | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
some eight year, nine year. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Here's a skull now; lain in the earth some three and twenty years. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
Whose was it? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
This same skull, sir, was Yorick's skull, the king's jester. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
Let me see. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
'Hamlet beside Yorick's grave | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
'is perhaps the most enduring image the play throws up.' | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
'The danger is that familiarity will rob the scene of its impact.' | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
'In staging the play, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
'we were blessed with a powerful reminder of Yorick's humanity.' | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
We're on our way now to the RSC's props repository, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
to look at something that was a very important part of our production. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
Hello, I'm David. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
Hi, Catherine. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
-Hi, Catherine. How are you doing? -I'm OK, thank you. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Good. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:07 | |
Brilliant. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
This is our Yorick. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
He was a Polish composer and pianist called Andre Tchaikowsky, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
and when he died in the early 80s, he bequeathed his head | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
to be used in a production of Hamlet by the RSC. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
He wanted to play Yorick. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
So, here he is. This is Andre. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
He was introduced to us by our director, Greg, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
on the first day of rehearsals, as the final member of the company. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
There was a variety of reactions, I think, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
to having a real human head in the production. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
Some people found it difficult. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
I must say, personally, I was rather excited by it. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
It's one of the cliches of the play, now, an actor holding a skull, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
and the trouble with the cliche is it loses meaning, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
but if you are presented with an actual person's skull, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
a real bit of human, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
then Hamlet's speech about Yorick and about staring into the skull | 0:45:16 | 0:45:22 | |
of a man he knew well becomes all the more potent | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
when you're aware that you're holding somebody's head, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
quite literally, in your hands. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
There he is. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
Andre was there. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
I feel very pleased to have helped him fulfil his ambition. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
Those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
Where be your gibes now? | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
Your gambols? Your songs? | 0:45:57 | 0:45:58 | |
Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar? | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
Not one now, to mock your own grinning? | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
Quite chop-fallen? | 0:46:08 | 0:46:09 | |
-Prithee, Horatio, tell me one thing. -What's that, my lord? | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
-Dost thou think Alexander looked o' this fashion i' the earth? -Even so. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
Imperious Caesar, dead and turn'd to clay. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
My best friend's mum has just died, and it's the first time | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
someone of my age has lost a parent. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
The idea of what life is and how someone being there | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
and then they're just flesh, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
or they're just remains, just bones, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
and if that's what someone is reduced to, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
what were they to begin with? What is a life? | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
Those things become more... | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
..more mysterious, more potent as you get older. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
They are questions you go through your whole life looking at, aren't they? | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
The play pauses to hold a mirror up to mortality, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
but before long, Hamlet is back at court, confronting his own destiny. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
Will he be a revenging hero? | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
Can he kill a king? | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
In London, at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
students are rehearsing the play's final scene. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
Move more, and it'll look faster, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
but it'll actually be slower for you. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
On returning to the court, Hamlet gets involved a contest | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
between himself and Laertes, the son of Polonius - the man he killed. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:12 | |
Great. That's when I want you to start moving. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
This contest will involve the entire court. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
It is the climax of the play, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
and yet Hamlet, told at the beginning of the play | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
to take revenge for his father's death, has planned none of this. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:40 | |
It was the king's idea. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Instead of finally deciding that he is going to do what | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
he has said all along that he's going to do, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
he gets involved in a wager | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
that his uncle, of all people, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
has put on his skills at fencing, | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
and there's no plan that Hamlet has articulated | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
that's going to lead from this sword fight in the court | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
to vengeance on his uncle. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
It seems to happen randomly. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
'So, ironically, this contest is not Hamlet's plan, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
'but the King's plot to kill him.' | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
'Claudius has enlisted Laertes, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
'eager to avenge the death of Polonius.' | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
'A blunted sword will be exchanged for a sharp one.' | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
You may choose a sword unblunted, and in a pass of practise | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
Requite him for your father. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
I will do it. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:40 | |
'Laertes also plans to put poison on the point of his sword | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
'to make sure Hamlet will die.' | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
'Hamlet knows none of this, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
'and although he has misgivings about how the fight will turn out, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
'he now seems determined to surrender to his fate.' | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
If your mind dislike of anything, obey it: | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
I will forestall their repair hither, and say you are not fit. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
Not a whit. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
We defy augury. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
There's a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
If it be now, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
'tis not to come. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
If it be not to come, it will be now. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
If it be not now, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
yet it will come. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
He is a very, very different character. His mood is different. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
There's a wonderful serenity and resignation about him | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
at that point. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:38 | |
"If it be not now, it is to come." | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
"if it be not to come, it is now." | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
"The readiness is all. Let be." | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
That great, almost oriental idea of let it be, what will be will be. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:50 | |
There is a real inner peace that he's reached, there. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
'And so the contest begins.' | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
Come on, sir. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:00 | |
Judgment! | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
A hit, a very palpable hit. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
Hamlet starts well. He wins the first point. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
Stay; Give him the cup. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
'He avoids a poisoned drink offered by Claudius | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
'in case Laertes should fail.' | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
I'll play this bout first; set it by awhile. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
But the queen, apparently unaware of the plot, drinks. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
It is the poison'd cup. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
'Impatient to kill Hamlet, Laertes lashes out.' | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
Have at you now! | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
'In the confusion, swords get exchanged | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
'and Laertes is wounded with his own poisoned tip.' | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
How does the queen? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:44 | |
She swoons to see them bleed. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
No, no, the drink, the drink. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:51 | |
O my dear Hamlet. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
The drink, the drink! | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
'With poison in his blood, Hamlet cannot escape his own death | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
'but, at last, he ensures the king will die, too.' | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
Here, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:11 | |
thou incestuous, murderous, damned Dane, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
Drink off this potion. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:20 | |
Is thy union here? | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
Follow my mother. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
'Hamlet has finally succeeded in avenging his father's death, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
'although more by accident than design.' | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
'He has had little control over any of this.' | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Now, Hamlet has to face his own death | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
in the arms of his only true friend, Horatio. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
If thou didst ever hold me in thy heart | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
Absent thee from felicity awhile, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
And in this harsh world draw thy breath in pain, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
To tell my story. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
O, I die, Horatio; | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
The potent poison quite o'er-crows my spirit: | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
The rest is silence. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
That final speech, the sense of Hamlet looking into the afterlife, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
for someone who has fretted whether there is one or not, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:02 | |
it was certainly in my mind that "The rest is silence" | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
was a sense of relief, that, actually, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
there's nothing else to worry about. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
I'm staring into the afterlife now, and it's just a void. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
Thank goodness for that. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
I mean, the big question for me, and I still don't know the answer. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
"The rest is silence." | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
Is that the rest of life, or is that the rest, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
the rest in himself is silence? | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
And he doesn't have to speak any more. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
Yeah, well. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
You know? There's a beautiful sense of calm. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
I always felt very calm in that moment, and quite happy. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
It's funny. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
My memory, talking about it, is much more about how I was feeling, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
and talking about it, I keep thinking I've got to talk | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
about the part, but actually I'm trying to think where I was at. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Yes, but the two end up being very meshed, don't they? | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
Yeah, I think they do. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
'For others, the fact that Hamlet bids Horatio | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
'to tell what has happened, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
'to tell his story, means there will be life after the silence.' | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
What is so powerful about the end of Hamlet - it's a deeply powerful ending - | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
is the moment when he transfers his story to Horatio, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
He says, "In this harsh world, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
"draw thy breath in pain | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
"to tell my story." | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
So he will not have lived in vain. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
We are also being told to tell the story, to perform the play again. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:35 | |
It does not end in nothing. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
It does not end in "The rest is silence." | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
It ends, in fact, in the injunction to replay the play. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
If thou didst ever hold me in thy heart | 0:55:45 | 0:55:50 | |
Absent thee from felicity awhile, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
And in this harsh world, draw thy breath in pain, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
To tell my story. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
'But am I any nearer to understanding | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
'why every successive age has identified with Hamlet?' | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
Of course, there's no answer to this, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
but do you have any sense of what it is about it that's so unique? | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
It tackles the fundamental themes | 0:56:26 | 0:56:32 | |
of perhaps what we all ask. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
Why are we here? What is the point of us being here? | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
All these huge things which, I think, just dealing with | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
being a living, breathing human being, we have to ask ourselves, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
at some point, or feel, at some point, are in this play. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
I remember having conversations in the summer, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
after we'd finished the run, with people, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
and we'd be talking about something | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
completely nothing to do with the play, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
and I'd go, "It's like Hamlet when he says this." | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
Everything would refer back to Hamlet for about six months. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
It seemed like it explained everything, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
or the answer to everything was there. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
'In the end, there just is no other character like him.' | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
I remember, in the last day of filming, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
thinking I'm so proud to have done that, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
I'm so pleased that that's something I got to do, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
and now I will never go there again, and there was a huge relief to that, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
because it was like having a weight lifted off your shoulders. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
And then, you know, three years on, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
I do find myself, I catch myself | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
slightly fantasising about doing it again, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
and going back there and seeing what that would feel like, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
but that way madness quite literally lies. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
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