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Just how powerful is art? Can it feel like love or grief? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Can it change your life? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Can it change the world? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
On February 25th 1970, nine paintings by the American artist Mark Rothko | 0:00:53 | 0:01:00 | |
arrived at London's Tate Gallery. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
A few hours earlier on the same day, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Rothko's body was discovered | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
lying on the bathroom floor of his midtown studio. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
The painter, who had spent so much time in his own mind, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
in the realms of the dead, had killed himself | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
and now had in London something like his own mausoleum. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:35 | |
Which is why in the spring of 1970, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
I didn't feel in much of a hurry to see the newly installed paintings. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
A monument to ANOTHER fallen American abstract painter, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
it smacked too much of reverence. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
And we weren't into reverence that much, not in 970. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
We were into playtime | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
- Andy Warhol, Rosenquist, Lichtenstein, wham-shazam! | 0:02:23 | 0:02:30 | |
Preferably while listening to rock and roll | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and getting, well, not high minded at any rate. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
# Andy Warhol looks a scream hanging on my wall | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
# Andy Warhol, silver screen Can't tell them apart at all... # | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
The idea that art should be solemn was a turn-off, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
a bit like being made to go to church. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
The fact that Mark Rothko had joined the roll call of suicidal abstract painters by killing himself | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
only made the prospect more funereal. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
On the other hand, I was keen to take another look at Francis Bacon. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
So one morning in the spring of 1970, into the Tate Gallery I went, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
walked down here and took a wrong right turn. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
And there they were, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
lying in wait. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
No, it wasn't love at first sight. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Rothko had insisted the lighting be kept almost pretentiously low. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
It was like going into a cinema, expectation in the dimness. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
Something in there was doing a steady throb, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
pulsing like the inside of a body part, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
all crimson and purple. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
I felt pulled through those black lines | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
into some mysterious place in the universe. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Rothko said his paintings begin an unknown adventure | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
into an unknown space. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
I wasn't sure where I was being taken. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
I wasn't even sure I wanted to go. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
I only knew that I had no choice | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
and that the destination might not exactly be a picnic. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
They say that money follows art. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Well, art quite likes money too. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
In fact, there's nothing a painter likes more than a wealthy patron. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
So papal Rome had its Caravaggio. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
17th century Amsterdam had its Rembrandt. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
When, in 1958, the Canadian liquor company Seagrams wanted a painter | 0:06:20 | 0:06:26 | |
to decorate their New York headquarters, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
there was only one possible choice - Mark Rothko. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
The 55-year-old painter was at the peak of his fame. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
Between 1954-1957, his paintings had trebled in price. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:50 | |
Representing America at the Venice Biennale, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
another five of his paintings were on tour in Europe | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
to prove to the world that the United States had depth | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
and not just dazzle. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
He was the greatest living American painter. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Or so they said. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
In 1958, maybe, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
but he'd gone through 30 years of financial hardship and mental struggle, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
wrestling with the biggest question of all - what could art do? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Could it cut through the white noise of daily life, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
connect us with the basic emotions that make us human | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
- ecstasy, anguish, desire, terror? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:52 | |
The architect of the Seagram building approached Rothko to do something for the Four Seasons, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
the ritzy restaurant that would occupy the ground floor of the Manhattan skyscraper. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
In exchange for some 500-600 square feet of paintings, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
they agreed to pay Rothko 35,000. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
That's about 2.5 million today. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
As commissions go, they didn't come any bigger. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Anyone else would have jumped at such an offer. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
But not Rothko. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
He thought long and hard about it, talked to all his friends, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
turned it over and over in his mind. Why? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
Because he was ambivalent, and not just about the commission, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
but about American capitalism, about his own American success story. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:17 | |
Born in Russia in 1903, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Rothko would later say that as a child he could remember | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
the local Cossacks indulging in their favourite activity... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
..beating up Jews. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
In the first years of the 20th century, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
America opened its arms to the Rothkowitzes from Dvinsk, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
as it did to millions of other Jews coming though Ellis Island to the goldene medina, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
the golden city. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
Now, there were two kinds of Jews in America | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
- those who plunged into the muck and mayhem of business | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
and those who brought with them from the old world the most precious thing they had - culture. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:22 | |
Rothkowitz Senior was the second kind, a dreamy, bookish pharmacist, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
happier talking to his children about Dostoevsky and Dickens than doing the accounts. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
He scraped enough together to bring little Markus and the rest of the family | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
out of the miseries of the old country | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
and died of cancer six months later. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
The Rothkowitz children were brought up by their mother, Anna. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
I knew this kind of kid, grew up with him. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Went to Hebrew school, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
read every sort of book he could get his hands on. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Played not just the violin but the mandolin, wow! | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
Grown-ups called him a know-it-all. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Mark was the smart one, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
the one who was gonna make it, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
and he wanted to please his mother. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
He was just your soup-educated, ungainly, sentimental Jew | 0:11:35 | 0:11:42 | |
in the grip of mighty ideas and desperate to tell you all about them. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:48 | |
Fidgeting on the sofa and waving his arms around, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
a big heart and a big mouth to match. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
You know the type. | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
Rothko won a scholarship to Yale University. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
But Yale wasn't even sure it wanted Jews at all and introduced a quota. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:11 | |
Rothko quickly realised | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
you didn't need a sabre-wielding Cossack to feel unloved. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
He dropped out. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
But he never was the kind of Jew who wanted to be a lawyer or a stockbroker. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
He was the other kind, the one with the creative itch, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
the one who thought art could change the world. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
It's precisely because he really believed this | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
that 30 years later, he couldn't walk away from the Seagram job, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
the greatest challenge of his career. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Rothko rented a vast space at 222 Bowery in an old gym. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
Every day, he'd arrive in the morning at 8.30, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
change into his painting clothes and get down to work. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
As he started work in the spring of 1958, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Rothko envisaged the Seagram murals | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
as a kind of wordless teaching, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
an antidote to the triviality of modern life. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
But what could they say? | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
And how could they say it? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
One of the basic problems of the commission was its sheer size. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Everything that Rothko had done so far had been on a human scale, personal. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
But this was public and Manhattan was watching. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
A picture lives by companionship, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
expanding and quickening in the eyes of the sensitive observer. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
It dies by the same token. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
It is therefore a risky and unfeeling act... | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
..to send it out into the world. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Just like the Old Masters he so admired, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Rothko prepared his canvasses with traditional rabbit skin glue. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
He worked fast and they would sit sometimes for hours, sometimes days. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
When someone asked a few years later | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
how long it took to paint one of his paintings, he replied, "57 years." | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
When he arrived here back in the 1920s, of course no-one noticed. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
He was just another lost soul in jazz age New York. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
But then he wasn't really into bootleg and boogie-woogie, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
more like Marx and Mozart. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
He was burning to do something about the modern world, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
something in the opposite mood to Busby Berkeley. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
Rothko had come to New York in 1923 | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
to "wander around, bum about and starve a bit," he later said. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
He enrolled in an art class | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and to make ends meet, taught kids at a Jewish community centre. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
When he stood in the Brooklyn classroom, it all seemed so easy. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
He'd tell the children not to mind the rules. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
"Painting," he said "was as natural as singing, it should be like music." | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
But when he tried, it came out as a croak. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
It's the work of a painfully knotted imagination. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
The trouble is he was doing something the children didn't do | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
- thinking too hard. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
So he dabbled in expressionism. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Thick dark paint, sketchy lines. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Pedlars, Jews on the street. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
The thighs that ate Coney Island. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
No, not very good. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:13 | |
Son of Man, you cannot say or guess, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
for you know only a heap of broken images where the sun beams | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
and the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
and the dry stone no sound of water. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
The Subway Series were the first paintings by Rothko | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
that catch you off guard, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
full of the bleak alienation of men and women in TS Eliot's Waste Land, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
they have a compelling strangeness. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
He took an everyday urban scene | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
and loaded it with the clammy sensation of doom. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Were these commuters from Brooklyn | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
or wandering souls trapped in purgatory? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Orpheus looking for Eurydice on the uptown D train? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
The architecture of the subway with its mournful rows of columns | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
snagged his attention. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
But the real action is going on with the colours themselves. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Look at the platform edge, that brilliant crimson smear, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
and you can see what Rothko meant | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
when he called his colours "performers". | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
It was a dramatic departure. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
But getting there as a painter would take him another 20 years. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
In 1958, three months into the Seagram commission, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
Rothko gave a lecture. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
It was the last time he'd have anything to say about art, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
and it's the closest insight we have as to how he saw his painting. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
The tragic notion of the image... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
..is always present in my mind. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
I can't point it out. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
There are no skull and bones. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
The whole problem of art, he said, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
is to establish human values in this specific civilisation, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
denying it was anything psychological or internal or revelatory about his work. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
He said, "No, no. It's about and of the world." | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
Then he went on to list all the ingredients that make up a Rothko painting, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
from sensuality through irony to death. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
"A sense of the tragic," he said, "is always with me when I paint." | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
And it was this unbearably weighty feeling for human tragedy | 0:21:25 | 0:21:31 | |
that Rothko wanted to bring into the Four Seasons. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
It would be his greatest project. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
I'm interested only in expressing basic human emotions | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
- tragedy, ecstasy, doom and so on. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And the fact that people break down and cry when confronted with my pictures | 0:22:07 | 0:22:14 | |
shows that I communicate those basic emotions. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
But it always had been uphill for Rothko. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
The '30s hadn't exactly been the best time to be an artist in New York, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:38 | |
not much of a market for painters, struggling or otherwise. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
Although he had shortened and changed his name from Markus to Mark and Rothkowitz to Rothko, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:56 | |
he certainly hadn't found his way in painting. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
With every show he went to at the Museum of Modern Art, Dada in '36, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:06 | |
Picasso in '39, the modern masters made him feel worse, floundering. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:13 | |
Only Matisse's Red Studio, which he saw in 1949, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
finally switched something on. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Maybe it had something to do | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
with what Matisse did to liberate colour from specific objects. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Things no longer have a colour, the painting does. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
But back in the '30s, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Rothko was still thinking too hard to paint like this. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
Instead of following his instinct, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
he went back to his books - Greek tragedy, Shakespearean tragedy, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
Nietzsche's birth of tragedy, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
great monolithic slabs of the big ideas he chain-smoked his way through. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
And then he tried to get the sense of tragic brutality | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
- this is what humans do, over and over again - down on canvas. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:07 | |
No problem finding the tragic in these pictures. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Myths and monsters, Syrian bulls, Egyptian hawks, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
half-men half-beasts, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
slither, hiss and peck like an ancient frieze. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
Slaughter, sacrifice and disembowelment by the yard. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:39 | |
But Rothko's archaeological excursions in the land of the dead | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
were overtaken by the real world. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
The war happened. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:07 | |
Not for Rothko | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
- classified 4F, unfit for service due to acute short-sightedness. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:21 | |
But Rothko knew the conflict was a crossroads for art. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
With civilisation facing annihilation, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
it was up to America to save Western culture from fascism, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
not just by offering safe haven to refugee painters from Europe | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
but by doing something brave, something fresh, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
something equal to the times. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Easier said - and they said it a lot - than done. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
Barnett Newman, one of Rothko's closest friends, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
issues another manifesto that sums up the way the group felt. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
"In a moral crisis of a world in shambles," | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
he says, "it was no longer possible to go on painting the old stuff. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
"Flowers, reclining nudes." | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
So Newman just gives up painting for four years. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
By the spring of 1959, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
Rothko had almost completed work on the Seagram job. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
Exhausted by his endeavour, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
he took a three-month vacation to Europe with his wife and daughter. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
HORN SOUNDS | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
We get an insight into how he was feeling from a reported conversation | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
he had at the bar on the transatlantic ocean liner. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
He railed against these "sons of bitches" | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
who'd be dining beneath his art, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
hoped his paintings would "ruin their appetite". | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
Increasingly, he'd come to see the commission | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
as a gladiatorial contest - Mark versus Manhattan. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
He talked the talk, but it sounds a lot like Dutch courage. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
Offensive, anxious. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Rothko had always wanted to give his paintings | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
the emotional force of the Old Masters. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
On a previous trip to Europe in 1950, he'd done the Grand Tour. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
And in Florence, he'd visited what was to be | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
a major inspiration for the Seagram murals, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
Michelangelo's library in the Church of San Lorenzo. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
After I'd been at work for some time, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
I realised that I was much influenced subconsciously | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
by Michelangelo's walls... | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
in the staircase room | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
of the Medician library in Florence. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
He achieved just the kind of feeling I'm after. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
He makes the viewers feel... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
they are trapped in a room where all the doors and windows are bricked up. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:37 | |
So all they can do is butt their heads against the wall... | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
forever. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:44 | |
That was the feeling Mark Rothko wanted to give to the people | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
who'd soon been eating in Manhattan's smartest restaurant. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Rothko and the other New York artists looked in America | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
and found a country caught between the bomb and the supermarket... | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
..Korea and the Cold War... | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
paranoia and distraction. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
It was an unreal manufactured way of life. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
So their paintings would fight back. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
They'd reconnect people with physical reality, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
with the truth of what it was to be human, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
and they'd do it in a totally new way. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
After the Holocaust and the atom bomb, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
Rothko said you couldn't paint figures without mutilating them. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
So, could just colours and shapes move us the way Michelangelo had? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
De Kooning, Pollock and Rothko all certainly thought so, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
abandoning painting things | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
to strive for a new, pure expression of feeling. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
At once visionary and revelatory, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
unlike nothing in the history of art - | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
a new world on a canvas. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Rothko also said that paintings needed to be miraculous. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
You could say the world had never been more badly in need of miracles. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:46 | |
And what he was painting was, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
for the first time, stunningly dramatic. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
Rothko's multiforms have a movement all of their own, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
swelling and dissolving, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
staining and seeping. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Sometimes they seem to hover over the canvas, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
as if we were looking down at layers of coloured cloud, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
mysteriously blooming and fading. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
At other times, the colours seem more stridently embattled. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
It was all very seductive, loose and pretty. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:32 | |
Rothko started to sell | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
but he knew the difference between prettiness and power. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
And it was power that he was after - | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
the power to take people somewhere they would recover their humanity. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
When they were first shown in Manhattan in the 1950s, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
these big spellbinding paintings were immediately recognised | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
as a body of work that made the case for American painting | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
in an utterly new way - | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
emotionally stirring, sensuously addictive. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Big vertical canvasses of contrasting bars of colour. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
Panels of colour stacked up on top of each other, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
shimmering, glowing, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
beckoning you into some sort of | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
deep, undefined, radiant yonder. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
Rothko had become the maker of paintings | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
as powerful and complicated | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
as anything by his two gods, Rembrandt and Turner. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
For me, these paintings are the equivalent of those Old Masters. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
Like them, they emanate an uncanny force field so strongly magnetic | 0:33:55 | 0:34:02 | |
that, when you turn your back on them or leave the room, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
you can still sense their presence. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
Quite suddenly in 1949, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
the new language of feeling Rothko had been groping towards for two decades | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
finally revealed itself. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
To the old world of art, Europe, where the veterans of modernism - | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
Salvador Dali, Picasso - were still pottering around to ever less effect, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Rothko's paintings seemed to give the lie | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
to anyone accusing American culture of shallowness. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
For whatever else these throbbing paintings were, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
they were unmistakably deep. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
Rothko had accomplished something utterly original. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
It's not what the colours are | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
that makes the paintings work on our senses... | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
it's what Rothko makes them do. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
While at first sight these paintings seem so still and composed, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
hang around for a moment and you'll see they're anything but - | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
they're in motion. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
They seem to swell and breathe and fill like sails catching the wind. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:28 | |
They're not paintings that just dumbly wait to be watched - | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
they come and get us. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
And we surrender to total immersion. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
Often talked about as some kind of transcendental philosopher, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
Rothko was at pains to deny ever being a mystic. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
"No," he said, "what I'm giving you, what I love, is material experience, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:06 | |
"the sensuousness of the world in all its richness." | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
And none of this tantalising of the eye would work | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
had Rothko not been the most soft-edged of all painters. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
Look at how important those ragged borders are, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
both at the perimeter of the whole picture | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
and in those torn seams he cuts between the big colour zones. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
That inner light, mysterious and potent. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
When people beheld it, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
for hours they could hold nothing else in their mind's eye. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Rothko wanted an intimate personal connection to be made | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
for his paintings to exert their full power. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
A total control freak, he had to be in charge of absolutely everything. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
Lighting - low, position on the wall - even lower. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
When somebody asked him how close to the pictures they should stand, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
he answered, "Right back. Oh, about 18 inches." | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
Between 1954 and 1957, the prices for Rothko's paintings trebled. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:36 | |
The big museums down the street from his studio | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
that he'd attacked in the 1930s now all wanted a piece of him. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Buyers who were busy creating collections of modern American masters | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
now had to have a Rothko along with their Pollocks, their De Koonings and their Klines. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:56 | |
So did this mean that Mark Rothko finally could relax a little, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
bask in the glow of his success? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Did it hell! | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
It was vital to him that his pictures were not sedatives. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
In the 1950s, people were always being told to relax. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
Well, Rothko didn't want his pictures to be like a massage. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
"They were," he said, "the opposite of restful. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
"Tragic performances, violent, sacrificial, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
"evoking the most extreme sensations of doom and ecstasy." | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
One does not paint for design students or historians | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
but for human beings. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
Hmm? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
And the reaction, in human terms, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
is the only thing that is really satisfactory | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
to the artist. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
I think what he feared most of all | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
was to be told how very "beautiful" his pictures were, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
even though they were, and are, exactly that, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
because the "B" word rang alarm bells | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
that they might be treated as no more than interior decoration for the rich. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:36 | |
The people who weep before my paintings... | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
are having the same religious experience I had when I painted them. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
So what was he doing | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
signing up for the ultimate job in interior decoration - | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
supplying paintings to the Four Seasons restaurant? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
The place where he said, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
"The richest bastards in New York would come to feed and show off." | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
Was it a shameful sell-out of all his most adamantly held principles? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
Or was Rothko, in effect, throwing down the gauntlet | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
saying, "Right, eat this"? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Now the Four Seasons isn't just a guzzling trough for the Tiffany classes. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
It occupies the ground floor of a skyscraper | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
designed by the darling of the modernist international style - | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
Mies van der Rohe. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Whatever else you can say about the Seagram building, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
the corporate headquarters of the Canadian liquor giant, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
it isn't vulgar. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Slender and razor sharp, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
the building broods over mid-town Manhattan. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Inside the Four Seasons itself, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
its half-sunken floor, fig trees, reflecting pools and modernist furniture | 0:41:39 | 0:41:45 | |
aspire to a kind of understated neo-classicism, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:50 | |
an urban villa for the Vogue set. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
Still, whichever way you cut it, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
it was a restaurant - a 4.5 million restaurant. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
But it wasn't quite that simple. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
There were things about the commission that were flattering, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
challenging in a positive way. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
The fact that there were now all those glamorous apartments with his pictures in them | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
sharpened Rothko's need to work in some sort of public space, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
make it over into what he called "a place, his place". | 0:42:35 | 0:42:41 | |
What bigger test could there be? | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
If it was haute cuisine versus art, his art, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
the truffled sole meuniere didn't stand a chance, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
art would vanquish appetite. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
His series of darkly glowing paintings, tightly packed together, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
would hang four and a half feet up on those walls, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
looming over the diners, swallowing the swallowers. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
His whole desire was to replace those restaurant walls altogether. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
Something profound would happen to the vain and the shallow as they tucked into their caviar | 0:43:15 | 0:43:22 | |
and their lobster thermidor, as they surrendered to the power of art - his art. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:28 | |
Early in 1959, like some omnipotent sorcerer, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
Rothko painted Red On Maroon, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
one of the most dramatic of the murals destined for the Four Seasons. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:59 | |
With the vision of Michelangelo's blind windows burnt on his retina, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
he turned his paintings on their side. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
Instead of uprights, they were now expansive horizontals. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:22 | |
What had been shutter-like bars of darkness and light | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
became something akin to load-bearing columns. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
And the load they were bearing was human history. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
That autumn, months after the glamorous opening, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
he and his wife Mel went to eat at the Four Seasons. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
Rothko was someone who thought it was immoral to spend more than five bucks on a meal, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:03 | |
and was often perfectly happy with a Chinese takeaway - the cheaper, the better. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:09 | |
But as he sat among the millionaires with Mel, his heart and his confidence sank like a stone. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:15 | |
Anybody who will eat that kind of food for that kind of money | 0:45:20 | 0:45:26 | |
will never look at a painting of mine. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
The next morning, he looked at the 30 or so paintings... | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
some of the most beautiful and moving things, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
not only Rothko but any modern artist had ever created... | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
and saw only the ruin of a great project. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
His paintings would never hang in the Four Seasons. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
Manhattan had beaten Mark. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
Or had art triumphed over money? | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
After all, how many artists do you know | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
who would say "no" to 2.5 million? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
Rothko had made sure his contract gave him ownership of the pictures | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
if the job went sour. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
It was almost as if he always hoped that one day, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
somewhere else perhaps, | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
he would be able to resurrect his idea to make a space, his space. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:05 | |
Later that year, a curator came to invite him to exhibit | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
in the Cassel Art Fair in Germany. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
When I was a younger man... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
art was a lonely thing. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
No galleries, no collectors... | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
no critics... | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
no money. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
Yet it was a golden age... | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
for we all had nothing to lose | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
and a vision to gain. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Today it is not quite the same. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
It is a time of tons of verbiage, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
activity, consumption. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Which condition is better for the world at large? | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
I will not venture to discuss. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
But I do know | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
that many of those who are driven to this life | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
are desperately searching for those pockets of silence... | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
where we can root... | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
and grow. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
We must all hope we find them. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
The man who'd taken a stand for art over money made the German an offer. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:24 | |
"If you build a chapel of expiation for the Holocaust," | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
he said, "it need only be a tent, I'll paint you something for free." | 0:49:31 | 0:49:37 | |
It never happened. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:42 | |
Mark Rothko spent the next ten years - | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
all that he had left of his life - | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
searching for that perfect wayside chapel | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
where he could realise the vision that had been frustrated at the Four Seasons. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:09 | |
A one-man show in 1961 at the Museum of Modern Art, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
which he went to every single day, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
brought him some cheer, and his work was selling better than ever. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
But with success, his life actually got shabbier. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
His tippling, which began at ten o'clock in the morning, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
developed into serious alcoholism. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
And his chain smoking, a lifelong habit, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
brought him heart and lung problems. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
And his second marriage was breaking up. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
Shadowed by melancholy, his work got darker and more intense, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:48 | |
just as modern art was going pop! | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
For Rothko, painting had always been an alternative to pop culture, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
not its accomplice. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
But this seemed to be what the galleries wanted now. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
Stuck in the mode of painting he'd been doing for 15 years, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
he was defensive, angry. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
So when he did break out of his old style, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
it was to go raven black, as black as Texas oil. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:28 | |
Texas finally provided Rothko with a chance to realise the vision thwarted in the Four Seasons. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:06 | |
Art patrons John and Dominique de Menil commissioned him | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
to produce a set of murals | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
for a chapel to be built in Houston in 1965... | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
giving Rothko freedom to install exactly what he wanted. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
If the Four Seasons paintings were content to make a gesture at the other world, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
the Houston chapel buries you in a tomb. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
Tanks of ink have been spilt trying to persuade us | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
that this place is not as dark and funereal as it seems. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
A systematic dimming of the light that had always burned intensely | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
in Rothko's greatest works. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
But, quite honestly, sitting here, do we feel bright and beautiful? | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
I'm not sure. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Those rippling edges flaring with light, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
which gave Rothko's pictures so much of their movement, have gone. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:23 | |
In their place, an inky night. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
It's almost as though he's painting | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
to see how dark he can make the light. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
Good luck... | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
and good night? | 0:53:46 | 0:53:47 | |
It's hard not to feel the Houston chapel isn't some sort of live burial, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:56 | |
an internment not just of Rothko's future | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
but of his hopes for art. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
Then into the blackness, in painting after painting, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
came a luminous zone of milky grey... | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
..like the rim of a planet lit by the moon, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:26 | |
as if Rothko was already gone off into deep space, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
presiding over the moment of creation. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Dividing the light from the darkness, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
the earth from the heavens, bent on heroic self-cremation. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
So, you see, I got it all wrong that morning in 1970. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
I'd thought seeing the Seagram paintings would be like a trip to the cemetery of abstraction, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:08 | |
all dutiful reverence, a dead end. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
Look at this one, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
what do you see? | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
A hanging veil suspended between two columns? | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
An opening that beckons or denies entrance? | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
A blind window? | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
For me, it's a gateway. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
If some of those portals are blocked, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
others open into the unknown space that Rothko talked about - | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
the place that only art can take us, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
far away from the buzzing static of the moment | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
and towards the music of the spheres. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
Everything Rothko did to these paintings, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
the column-like form, suggested rather than drawn, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
the loose stainings, were all meant to make the surface ambiguous, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:38 | |
porous, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
perhaps softly penetrable. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
A space that might be where we came from | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
or where we will end up. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
They're meant not to keep us out, but to embrace. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
From an artist whose highest compliment was to call you a human being. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:13 | |
Can anything be less cool than this room in the heart of Tate Modern? | 0:57:20 | 0:57:25 | |
Further away from the razzle dazzle of contemporary art, the frantic hustle of now? | 0:57:25 | 0:57:33 | |
This isn't about now, this is about forever. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
This is a place where you come to sit in the low light | 0:57:36 | 0:57:41 | |
and feel the aeons rolling by, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
to be taken towards the gates that open onto the thresholds of eternity. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:49 | |
To feel the poignancy of our comings and our goings, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
our entrances and our exits, our births and our deaths. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
Womb, tomb and everything between. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
Can art ever be more complete, more powerful? | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
I don't think so. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:08 | |
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