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MUSIC: "Battle Without Honour Or Humanity" by Tomoyasu Hotei | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
The biggest celebrities on our TV screens today | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
are a savvy bunch of personalities with multi-million-pound contracts. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
With backgrounds as diverse as modelling, football | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
and children's television | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
or even a fleeting appearance on a reality show, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
a star can come from literally anywhere. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
Normal people would watch entertainers on the telly. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Now entertainers sit at home and watch normal people on the telly. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
It's easier to get in, make a killing, be rubbish, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
and then move onto something else. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
But the biggest stars in entertainment history are the all-round entertainers. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:19 | |
I'm an entertainer, I'm a performer, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
I'm an all-rounder, I do so many things. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
If you want me to act, I'll act, if you want me to be serious, I will. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
The adrenaline goes, the lights shine, the eyes shine, and they're on there. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
Stop crying, we all love you, I'll call you later. Bye. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
That was Noel Edmonds. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
These are unique individuals who live to entertain. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
"Can you ride a horse?" "Oh, yeah, of course." | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
No way, you know? "Can you roller-skate?" | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
"Yes, of course." That I can do. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Just tell me which part of the song you want me to jiggle my bits, and I'll do it. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
# Your gold satin jacket and your silvery blues... # | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Unfortunately, you don't get many shows today | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
where performers can go on and strut their stuff. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
Hold on! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Bruce Forsyth? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
-Hello! -Phone. -Right. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
-Come on down! -After the death of variety, these entertainers | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
became the hosts of choice | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
for the biggest money-spinner on TV, the game show. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
This is for the match... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
I don't blame people for calling me a game-show legend, but I do regret doing so many game shows. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:39 | |
This is going to be my very, very last series of Blind Date. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
AUDIENCE GROANS | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Tonight, we're going to discover just how these all-rounders | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
have stayed at the top of the showbiz tree for over 70 years. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
The golden age of the all-round entertainer happened | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
back when Britain was at war. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
During our darkest hour, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
the all-rounders were the country's secret weapon. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
One of the biggest names was Vera Lynn, who worked her way up | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
from the music hall to become the forces' sweetheart. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
# Don't know where | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
# Don't know when | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
# But I know we'll meet again | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
# Some sunny day... # | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Another star was cheeky cockney comic Tommy Trinder. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
# Of all the lives a man can lead There's none like a sailor's... # | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
He had worked the country's music-hall circuit for 18 years | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
before landing the leading role of cheering up the troops. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
You are lucky people! | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
You know the beginning of an MGM film where Leo the lion comes out and goes out...? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
He came out the beginning of my picture, but he didn't roar. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
He just went... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Trinder was a great...professional. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
He was a snappy, sharp, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
never-lost-for-words comic in the really old tradition. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
I said, "If the Germans capture me, they're entitled to shoot me." | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
It wasn't | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
one laugh every three-and-a-half minutes for them. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
It was three-and-a-half laughs every one minute. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
Thanks to the war, the all-round entertainers were almost national treasures. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
I've come out to sing to you lads. Do you want a song now? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-Sing us Window Cleaner, George, will thee? -OK! | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
# I go window cleaning To earn an honest bob | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
# For a nosey parker It's an interesting job | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
# Now, it's a job that just suits me | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
# A window cleaner you would be | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
# If you can see what I can see | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
ALL: # When I'm cleaning windows | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
# Honeymooning couples, too | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
# You should see them bill and coo | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
# You'd be surprised at things they do | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
# When I'm cleaning windows. # | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
After the war, hundreds of wannabe entertainers flocked to | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
the cabaret clubs in London's Soho, looking for their shot at stardom. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:05 | |
I got the most wonderful excitement. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
He told me he'd pay me £36 a week, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
and up till then I'd only got 10 or 12. And I thought, "36, my goodness!" | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
And then I thought, "Wait a minute, I'm doing 36 shows a week. It's only a pound a show." | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
You did get propositioned. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I never understood why, and when I look back on it, I...didn't have any clothes on. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
I wasn't a nude, but I was scantily dressed, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and I was 17 by now, and I remember staring at these nude girls | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
and I just thought, "How do they just walk around with no clothes on?" | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
There were some lovely girls there, I was very lucky. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Yes, of course, it was... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
it was a very exciting and very enjoyable period of my professional life. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:55 | |
This is going to be a bit tricky, because, you see, I am a comedian. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:01 | |
Those acts would have to do six shows a day. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
This fellow was always in, every day, in the front row, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
and on about the third house of the fourth day I forgot, I dried, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
couldn't remember what was next, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
and this fellow said, "You tell the one about the parrot next," | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
"Thank you very much!" | 0:06:15 | 0:06:16 | |
You walk out there, and some of them pick up their newspapers and start to read. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
You try and make an audience who's heard your act already, now reading the newspaper, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
try and get through to them and make them laugh. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
When you've died six times a day for seven weeks, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
when you really know that you're not really wanted | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
and you're not really getting all the laughs you think you could be getting or should be getting, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
to still be able to keep your composure and | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
deliver the lines cleanly, you know, that is very good training indeed. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
While the Windmill launched the careers of numerous stars, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
it famously turned down others, including Norman Wisdom. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
Undeterred, this classic all-round entertainer continued to ply his trade | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
and by 1954, Norman Wisdom was top of the bill at the London Palladium. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
I was at the London Palladium, which is the finest theatre in...almost the finest theatre in the world. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
When he came on, the audience just screamed. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I was doing comedy and jokes and... | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
He was like a pop star. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
-Singing, dancing, tap-dancing. -There's an all-round entertainer. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
# Every time the record says... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
# I love you | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
# It simply means, my darling, that... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
I love you. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
I'm not kidding you, I remember I had tears coming out | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
of my eyes, although I was smiling and laughing, it was so wonderful. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
Norman wisdom was just one of hundreds of stars represented by the Grade Organisation. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
Founded by three Russian immigrant brothers - Lew, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Leslie and Bernard - | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
the organisation built a showbiz empire from poverty-stricken beginnings. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
They became the godfathers of the entertainment industry. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
They were in every part of show business where money could be made and a gamble could be taken. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:16 | |
They WERE entertainment in the '50s. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
If the Grades happened to come into the room, you just kept quiet. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
You didn't... You didn't dare speak to them. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Those people were gods. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
I mean, they could point their finger and go, "I think she should do this show," | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
you know...and you were so grateful. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
The most ambitious of the three was eldest brother Lew, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
an ex-Charleston dancer who gambled everything on a new venture, commercial television. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
They were gamblers, and if you gamble in show business and get it right, you're a genius. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:54 | |
And if you gamble and get it wrong, you're bankrupt. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Lew Grade's bid was successful, and in 1954 | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
the BBC's 20-year monopoly was over and ATV was launched. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
Lord Reith, a founding father of the BBC, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
predicted this new channel would be a premeditated orgy of vulgarity. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
Hey! | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Finally, the masses got what they needed - | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
pure, unadulterated entertainment. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
And when there was nothing else to do on a Sunday but go to church, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Lew Grade gave them appointment-to-view TV at its best, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Sunday Night At The Palladium. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
But the Grades needed a star name to host the show | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
and booked the people's favourite, Tommy Trinder. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Good evening, everybody, how do you do? Look what I've picked up. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
Cyril, have you had bookmakers on this stage? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
It's not warm - it must have been dropped last night, Liberace's. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
That was the iconic show that changed the whole tone of television. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:05 | |
Here was not only vaudeville, American headliners, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
but a game show with a jackpot in the middle. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
The BBC were being beaten to the effect of 70% of the audience | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
was watching ITV and 30% watching the BBC. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Most people who had a television | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
would be there for Sunday Night At The London Palladium. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
That was their big opportunity to see the big stars. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
After three years in charge, Trinder was replaced with a much younger all-round entertainer. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
Thank you... Good evening! | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
# Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
# Welcome to Sunday night at the London Palladium. # | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
The minute he walked on the stage, you knew he was home. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
He was absolutely right for the show. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
The difference, really, between Tommy Trinder and Bruce Forsyth is | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Trinder was a fantastic, stylish comedian. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Bruce Forsyth is as well, but he is also, in addition, a wonderful dancer, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
a fantastic singer and a fine actor, which a lot of people don't realise. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Forsyth was ambitious for stardom, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and he took every opportunity to showcase his all-rounder talents. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
He became known as a comic-compere, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
but then the tap-dancing came in, he could tap dance, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
then the piano-playing came in. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
So when he had guests on that could do that, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
he said, "Can I do a duet with you?" "Oh, Bruce Forsyth..." | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
And that's why he's an all-round entertainer. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Here he comes now! | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Perce, you look smashing, where did you get all that Chinese gear? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
I was in Choo-Chin Chow. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Well, what did you play? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
I played the chin. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
'Sunday Night At The London Palladium was the vehicle to launch anybody's career.' | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
You knew we were gonna get 15, 20 million people watching it, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and the next day people would be saying, "Did you see so-and-so on the Palladium last night?" | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Capitalising on the success of his new television station, Lew Grade set his sights on Hollywood. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:17 | |
They were able to offer artists work in their theatres and television exposure, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:24 | |
and the television exposure filled the theatres, and so on and so on. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
The competition was...was...did they want to work for the BBC, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:34 | |
with all that that kind of involved, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
who had a big radio presence and everything else like that? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Or did they want to work for ITV, which paid twice the money the BBC paid? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:47 | |
I mean, it was a very...a very simple equation! | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Top of ATV's wish list was America's | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
greatest all-round entertainer in the 1950s, Sammy Davis Junior. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
Ah, Sammy Davis... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
Fantastic performer. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
I thought perhaps I might become an honorary Supreme if you don't mind. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
He was the all-round entertainer of all time. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Can sing, dance, he does impressions. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Will you turn around the other way? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
He worked with all the great American variety artists, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
and he took a little bit of that and a bit of that. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
# Somewhere along the way... # | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-Mind if I come in? -Be my guest. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
# The friends we used to know... # | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
But to become as proficient at your profession as...as... | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
Sammy Davis did and the things he could do, go on stage for | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
three and a half hours, I personally think is a bit self-indulgent, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
cos I like to do as little as possible. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
# That's why the lady is a tramp... # | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Sammy Davis's first appearance at the Royal Variety Show in London caused a sensation. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:59 | |
# The lady... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
# Is a tramp! # | 0:14:03 | 0:14:10 | |
We had never ever seen energy like it. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
He just took the entire show by the scruff of the neck and | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
worked at such a pace and with such energy | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and such dynamism that it revolutionised light entertainment. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
Lew Grade's ATV had the money to get him for a TV special. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
A young choreographer, Lionel Blair, was asked to do a dance routine with him. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
It was a hat shop. I was a very snooty salesman and he was the ugly American. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
Oh, good morning, sir. What could we do for sir? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-What could we what? -What could we do for sir? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Oh. You here by yourself or you got a group with you? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Then he showed me some steps, which I learnt, and he said, "And we'll finish with that." | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
I went, "All right." | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Toodle-pip! | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
I got the most wonderful reviews, "This has made Lionel Blair a star". | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
I didn't work for six months after that, cos they went "Well, what do we do with a dancer? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
"Can he talk?" They don't believe we could talk, you know? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
And it was a very difficult period for me, that. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
By the early 1960s, even the American style was old hat. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Now entertainment was full of young working-class Liverpudlians. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
There were these four loveable rascals from Liverpool. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Thank God they came in, because we all came in on their coat-tails. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
In 1965, at the height of Beatlemania, comedian Jimmy Tarbuck | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
became the host of the new London Palladium show. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
I can see it's crowded out here, you should see it backstage. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I had the hair cut, I wore the high-button suits, I was skinny | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
in those days, and I looked, to all intents and purposes, like a Beatle. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
I've got all my gear on tonight, do you like it? | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
AUDIENCE WHISTLES | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Cheeky! I've only got it on cos I'm a dedicated follower of fashion. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
# They seek him here | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
# They seek him there | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
# His clothes are loud | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
# But never square | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
# It don't make or break him But he's got to buy the best | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
# Cos he's a dedicated follower... | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
'I was inexperienced for the job.' | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
But dear God, it was exciting and wonderful, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
and I was working with the biggest stars in the world. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
# Step inside, love | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
# Let me find you a place... # | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
The next Scouse star to hit big was 25-year-old pop singer Cilla Black. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:08 | |
She was to become one of the biggest all-round entertainers for the next 40 years. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
# Come my way | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
# Step inside love and stay... # | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
She works like mad. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
She rehearsed from nine in the morning till five at night five days a week. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
You did your sketches, you did into camera, you did dance routines. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
I'm not a trained dancer, so I...I feel... I feel steps, I don't count. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:44 | |
You know, six, seven, eight, da-da-da. No, I can't do that. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Just tell me which part of the song you want me to jiggle my bits, and I'll do it. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
# Well, the jukebox a-playin' like a one-man band | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
# It's the only kind of music that we understand... # | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I guess, you know, the public chose me to be a TV star. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
I didn't choose it, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
the TV public chose me, and thank God they did! | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
I think Cilla Black is unique in as much as she is | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
a female entertainer in a world of male entertainers. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
And it is that she is so secure, she believes in herself, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:22 | |
and she has charisma, she has charisma. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
She believes that out there everybody's very lucky to be watching her. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Don't ever tell her that, though. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
But by the 1970s, the fashion changed again. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Now it was all about game shows. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Let's meet Linda and Brian Edmondson from Hartlepool | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
in the Tyne-Tees Television area, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Rose and Martin Hodgkin from West Pinchbeck, Spalding in the Central area, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
and Jean and Albert Derkin from Kendal in the Border region. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
The game-show formats emerged cos they're cheap to do. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
People will come on for nothing for small rewards, you only have to pay the host, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:03 | |
and there's guaranteed drama. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
The money ITV were making was irresistible, and they forged ahead with more game-show formats. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:12 | |
Welcome once again, ladies and gentlemen, to another exciting edition of 3-2-1. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
3-2-1... I can't do it, no! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
But Ted...it was Ted's own idea, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
and it became a huge national catchphrase. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
A well-devised game show is so dramatic that even you and I will watch it. We just pretend we don't. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
With few other outlets to showcase their talents, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
the all-rounders queued up for their chance to do a game show. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
There was no other television outlet. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
There were no variety shows, variety had gone. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Actually, sometimes they'd take these jobs | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
as a boost to a sagging career, so rather than be detrimental, often it lifts the career just a bit - | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
a bit more exposure, a bit more fun. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
The excitement today if you get a show that gets five or six million, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
in these days people used to get 20 million viewers. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
That was what everybody talked about the following day. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
Live from Birmingham, it's the Golden Shot, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
and here's the man who keeps it bang on target, here's Bobby! | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
By the early 1970s, ITV were winning the ratings war, and the BBC had to find a way to fight back. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:23 | |
They needed their own game show. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
Off I go to Utrecht, and there was a show they were doing | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
called One Out Of Eight. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
SHE SPEAKS DUTCH | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
As I sat there through the two hours, not understanding a word, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
my mind wandered and I thought, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
"There is an idea here, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
"and the person who could do it would be Bruce Forsyth." | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
THEY SING IN DUTCH | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
His career at that time was kind of at a level, you know, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
he was...working and...popular, but he hadn't actually got a vehicle. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
My agent and myself went to see Bill Cotton with a view to doing a talk show. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
I wanted him to do this, because I believed he was the best person | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
in the world to do this type of show. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Thank you! | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Good evening ladies, gentlemen and children, welcome to the Generation Game. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-Nice to see you, to see you... -AUDIENCE: Nice! | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-There we are. -From the word go, it was a success, the thing worked. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
It was a show where you brought the punters on. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
It was the end of the pier, "I'm looking for two volunteers," | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-a fantastic show. -Another... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
It's all right, we've got another one here! | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
I used to watch the rehearsals of the Generation Game | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
with the floor manager doing my bit, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and by me looking at it, I could see... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
"It'd be better if I said that, and if I move them from there to there..." I could see things. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
I will say to you, you know, an organ of the body. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
You have to write in or make a diagram of the size that you think it is. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
What Bruce was given was a slave camera, which meant wherever | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
he was on the set, there was close-up of him, there. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
So if a member of the audience said something, it was really funny, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
and Bruce was being upstaged because that member of the public was much funnier than him, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:46 | |
he would just do a Jack Benny, which was just... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
You were a school master in Chesterfield, teaching History and English. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
-Are you interested in history? -Oh, I love history. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-Old things? -Oh, yeah. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Some of your jokes are a bit like that, aren't they? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
Plain fact of the matter was that he was made for the Generation Game, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
and the Generation Game was made for him. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
The climax of the show was the conveyor belt full of goodies. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
It was a very short conveyor belt, probably only about six-foot long, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
and there was rows of men throwing trays on | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
and rows of men taking trays on. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
It was actually all very tidy and neat, but behind the scenes it was gentle chaos. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
An infra-red grill... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
A cuddly gorilla! | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
A gorilla! An insulated jug... | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
But despite the success of the show, the BBC weren't comfortable with giving away prizes. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
We had a wide range of discussions at which the notion of perhaps giving the contestants prizes | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
of stamps for licence fees and other ways of getting round | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
the notion of consumer durables, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
but nothing was as good as the cuddly toy and the microwave. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
We've got the drill! Er, the cassette player, the cassette player. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
The golf, the golf indoor thing. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Yes, and we've got the drill. The what? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
AUDIENCE SHOUTS, BUZZER | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Oh, the gold, we've got the gold. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Didn't she do well?! Yes! | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
ITV decided to steal Bruce Forsyth away from the BBC | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
and offered him a massive £15,000 a week to jump ship. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
Always leave a show when it's at the top, never leave a show when it is starting to fail, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
because when you do that you, you go down with the sinking ship. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
I worked and worked on him to try and get him to leave! | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
And eventually we created Bruce's Big Night at LWT | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
which was a showcase for all of his talents. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's Bruce Forsyth's Big Night. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
# Oh, happy day Oh, happy day | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
# Oh, happy day... # | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
They promoted it as though the second messiah was going to arrive! | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
I mean, it was quite ridiculous. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
# You know that you really wash... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
# Wash my sins away Oh, happy day... # | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
It was an hour and a half live every week, with so many things in, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:13 | |
so it was a very hard show to do. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
In amongst Forsyth performing, there would be special guests, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
contestants playing games, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
fancy-dress parades, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
and even a big-money game show. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Sammy Davis Junior. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
But most important to Bruce Forsyth were his celebrity guests. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
I would like to do now a thing that I've been doing every time I come to England. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
This is one of those numbers... | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Didn't anybody tell you this was my show? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
If they had, would I have been here? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
The Big Night was fun mainly because it did involve me working with other performers. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
Then switch chairs with me over here. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
Switch chairs. If we're going to do impressions, then I want you to switch chairs. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
Didn't he do well? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Good game, good game! | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Nice to see you, to see you... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
AUDIENCE: Nice! | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
You wouldn't see those people every week, they'd be special for that one show. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
I'll be with you in a minute. I need all the props. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I'd just like...I'd just like to say, Bruce, that you're not only a great all-round performer... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:41 | |
You're a great all-round human being. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
That wasn't light entertainment - that was heavy. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Another veteran of the northern club scene was also hitting the heights on ITV. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
This is the part of the programme which is entitled Get It Off Your Chest. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
55-year-old Larry Grayson had been working the circuit for over 30 years before landing his own show. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:06 | |
He never came out, so he was never officially gay, but he was the master of the innuendo. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
He loves the water, it's good for his war wound. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
And he went out there, and I was terrified, because he got into trouble with an octopus. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
I thought, "Everard's gone," and I shouted out, "Cut off its tentacles!" | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Well, the lifeguard was deaf, and do you know...? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
It is true that he put...jolly nearly put the word "gay" | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
into common usage. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
You know, I mean people didn't... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
"What a gay day," you know, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
and he had those catchphrases, you know? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Let's have a change of scenery. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Comic Larry Grayson received unexpected attention from the BBC, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
who were looking for a new host for the Generation Game. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
I could, I've done it all before. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
I had find out who was going to replace Bruce, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
and a lot of people had ideas, and I went against all the grain. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
People were looking for a Bruce-similar, a look-alike. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
There was a time, I think, Barrymore was considered, but he was too young, he hadn't yet become | 0:28:09 | 0:28:15 | |
where he had got to. Roy Castle was considered. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
And I just said, "No, I don't want to have a competitor, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
"I don't want people to think, 'Bruce is better.' | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
"I want to go in a completely different direction." | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
# Shut that door! | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
# And enjoy the Generation Game... # | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
Larry Grayson became the first mainstream camp entertainer on Saturday night. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:40 | |
# Larry Grayson is here to play so... # | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
Shut that door! | 0:28:44 | 0:28:45 | |
We realised with Larry, he couldn't do anything. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
HE CLEARS THROAT | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Don't worry, I'm not going to spit. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
If we found a contestant had done a potter's wheel, we'd say "Larry..." | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
"Oh, I'll have a try." Of course it was chaos. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I can't find the five! | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Larry was a bit all over the place, and it was kind of a bit haphazard, but there was a vulnerability | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
about it, combined with his natural timing and these funny looks | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
and these funny expressions that people just... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
It sort of captivated the people. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
You know, she hasn't been well all day. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
He was very good at ad-libbing, and timing was natural. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
Forward! Ho! | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
Grayson's chaotic style made the Generation Game an | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
even bigger hit than before, with viewing figures topping 18 million. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:06 | |
Yet again, ITV had to come up with a spoiler to beat the BBC's dominance | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
of Saturday night, but this time they didn't target the presenter, they went for the producer. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:17 | |
The Generation Game dominated the ratings, it was Saturday nights. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
The BBC owned Saturday nights. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Boyd was poached to sink the Generation Game. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
In 1981, LWT came up with a format so daring, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
it would change light entertainment forever. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
The all-rounders were about to lose out to a new type of performer. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
Game For A Laugh, the show where the people are the stars. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
This was the start of the famous reality. It was a "real people show", | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
people were the stars, that's what the title said. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
We used American-type opening credits, teasing the show, which had never been done before. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:01 | |
We made them run down the stairs, people said this is silly. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
And these were four young presenters they didn't know doing silly things, they were silly people. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
They were painting the Forth Bridge, going to a nudist camp. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
The Sun newspaper, "Disgusting ITV, people go to nudist camps." | 0:31:24 | 0:31:30 | |
It was a hysterical story, never been done before, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
-so we broke all the boundaries. -How do you rate your chances this year? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
Well, keep your fingers crossed, looking round at these lads... | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
If you look back at Sunday Night At The London Palladium, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
you know, the best bit on that weren't the big names - that was the draw. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
The most entertaining part of Sunday Night At The London Palladium was Beat The Clock, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
cos you used ordinary people, getting them to do crazy things | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
in the hope of winning nothing. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
I'm looking for four brave ladies who are game for a laugh. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
It was tough to find a host, and it was the show's researcher, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Jeremy Beadle, who begged for the job of practical joker. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
The exec producer said to Alan Boyd, "You will never make a star of anybody with a beard," | 0:32:15 | 0:32:21 | |
and there he had two people on his show with beards. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
Both of them went on to achieve national... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
notoriety, in my case. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Right, Linda, looking forward to this? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
-Yeah. -Yes, great, good, OK. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Just pick a pocket and tell us what you think is in there, any one. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-What do you think it is? -A rat or something. -A rat?! | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
The skills of a presenter changed, because historically, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
the people that hosted the shows were all-round entertainers. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
They could burst into song, they could tap dance, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
whatever you want, do a bit of patter. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
It's up to you. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
The genre could now be presented by non-entertainment variety acts, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
and therefore you could be a weatherman, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
or you could be a presenter, or you could be a journalist, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
or you could a news presenter. It just opened it up. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
You didn't have to have been a Redcoat or been on the Palladium stage for 20 years. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
And then there was Michael Barrymore. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Barrymore's anarchic and unscripted performances captivated the viewers. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
Is this the microphone? Yeah? Oh, God! | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
He has that ability to kind of be dangerous with the public, and he had it then, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:52 | |
and yet to somehow pull them in and make them feel relaxed. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
Barrymore's anarchic and unscripted performances captivated the viewers. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:03 | |
I thought I might have a kip. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
I actually genuinely do like people, always have done. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
I find them fascinating. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Even those that are considered the meanest. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
I think there's something in there if you can only get to it. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-No, it's all right, what's your name? -Daisy. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Oh, you're Daisy, are you? There we are. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
I'll get you up, Daisy. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
-Do it properly! -Do what?! | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Providing you're not breaking the boundaries and the person's happy. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
If you look at the stuff where I've got the body contact with people, it's just mucking about. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
There we are, there we go. Are you all right? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's lovely, innit? | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Just come down on me arm, there you go, you'll be all right. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
That's it, you want it nice and hard, so it's... | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I can't go to sleep with you laughing, love, can I? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
As himself, he's a very shy, rather withdrawn man. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
It's only when he gets on stage or he gets enthused and excited in the rehearsal room about a project | 0:35:03 | 0:35:09 | |
that you see this...this thing come from within. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
This kind of aura takes over, and the talent that he's got suddenly comes out. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:19 | |
Don't forget, wait for me, won't you? | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
What do you mean, "Wait for me"? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
My secretary, she's got to wait for me. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
-She's got to wait for you? -Yeah. -Well, where do you think...? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
They're not gonna go anywhere. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
You'd be surprised, they might be going home. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Sorry, are we keeping you up, love? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
The other big star of the '80s began the decade as an almost forgotten figure, but after appearing on Wogan | 0:35:41 | 0:35:49 | |
to plug her new album, Cilla was inundated with television offers. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
# I want you to stay. # | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
CHEERS AND APPLAUSE | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Your voice has lost none of its sweetness, has it? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
Oh, isn't that nice? What you're saying is, I'm getting old. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
No, I mean, it's true, though - I'm 40 this year, Terry. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
I'm not looking forward to my own 40th, I can tell you. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
I was gonna ask you, can you remember when you were 40? | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
And it was ITV who persuaded her to come back. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Cilla Black! | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Surprise Surprise was really a brand-new concept, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
all based around everything that I'd done in my career. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Cos surprise, surprise, you are going to Wembley! | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Some shows eat themselves, because you can't do the same game again. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
People know you're gonna do a twin switch or whatever. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Other shows, like Surprise Surprise, feed themselves. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
In other words, you get 80,000 people wanting to find people. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Everybody remembers, you know, the last... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
tug of the heart-string story. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
But surprise, surprise, here are your brothers and sisters. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Why don't you come and join us? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
I tried not to make it mawkish, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
but still they remember it, don't they? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Realising that she was a ratings hit, ITV scoured the world to find another winning format for her. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:34 | |
Thank you, thank you. Hello and welcome to Blind Date. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
It wasn't about a...a couple getting it together. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
It was actually the process of romance - the dating process, trying it out. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
That's why Cilla was thrilled if there was any suggestion with a relationship or a marriage even. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
She could go to the wedding, we'd get another special out of it. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
So let's say hi to the boys! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Unfortunately, in the later years, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
and I think this is why Cilla got disillusioned with it, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
is that it got too much about couples going off and whether they'd had sex or not. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
-Was there a passionate kiss? -Yeah, we snogged. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Nick, we didn't snog. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I think I'm old enough to know what a snog is. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
So am I, Nick, and if I snogged you, you'd know all about it. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Look, Cilla, I came on Blind Date for a romantic... | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
Meet someone really romantic and nice, but instead I got a geezer bird. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS AND APPLAUDS | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
And before they come to blows, I'd better say, ladies and gentlemen, wish them well, Ty and Caroline. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:37 | |
But after 18 years of matchmaking, Cilla had had enough. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
We did a live Blind Date to try and revive the brand, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
and give it a bit of promotional trickery. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
This is Blind Date Live. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
She took that opportunity to say, "Thank you and good night." | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
And I didn't know... | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
till two minutes before the live Blind Date, I thought, "What a great opportunity." | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
Hello, and welcome to this very special live show, and do you know what, ladies and gentlemen? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:10 | |
It is a very special live show, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
because this is going to be my very, very last series of Blind Date. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:18 | |
That was to me the consummate statement of the fact that here was | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
a woman who knew exactly what she was doing. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
It was the right time, and I hope it was done in good taste. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
Apart from Cilla, the only other woman on Saturday night was Marti Caine. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:36 | |
Do you know, I did me shopping in this today? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
And got mugged by two stray flamingoes. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
Oh, dear! Mind you, you've got be fit for show business. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
I'm a big believer in that yoga myself, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
especially t'strawberry flavoured. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
She was just a pleasure and a joy to work with and very, very funny. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:02 | |
You watch when they're doing | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
their own thing, like, "Oh, I can do...I can say that better. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
"I can do that better, I can say... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
"She's very funny, that's a great line!" | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
And then when I heard she wrote it, I suddenly had great respect for her. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
In 1986, she was given the ultimate accolade, host of New Faces, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
the show that had launched her to stardom ten years before. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Thank you, and welcome to New Faces '86. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
We used to have this kind of sparring match on the show. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
She'd say something, and I'd insult her or insult her frock | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
or her hair, you know, and then she'd come back at me, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
and people watching thought, "They don't get on at all." | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
You know, the glamorous grannies novelty contest, fine, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
cos the jokes are as old as that - sorry, but they are. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Yes, well, that's Nina's opinion. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
How about you, Chris, what did you think? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
I've no idea, she frightened me to death. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Marti Caine was a great inspiration and just a lot of help on the show. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
She stood up for a lot of the acts - well, for all of the acts, even the ones that were cack, like me. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
Our next New Faces act defies description. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
He's a... Well, he's a sort... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
No, but then again he's more of a... | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Well, he does a bit of... | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Make you own mind up, ladies and gentlemen, it's Joe Pasquale! | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
I ain't been in show business long. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
I used to be a long-distance lorry driver | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
on the Isle of Wight. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
The only star that was discovered in my whole three years as a panellist was Joe Pasquale. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:07 | |
Everybody thought I was a successful working-club act that had | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
been going donkey's years, and I wasn't, you know, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
I just fluked it on New Faces. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
And he only came to prominence 20 years after New Faces finished. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
However much I died on me arse out in the clubs, however much people shouted, "Get off, poofter!" | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
or "Oi, squeaky, clear off!" | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
whatever they shouted at me, I knew it was better | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
than having half a dead cow on me back at Smithfield's meat market. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
By the mid '90s, even Michael Barrymore had jumped on the game-show bandwagon. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
Basically, if you look at Strike It Lucky, the format is crap. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
Thank you very much! | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
Thank you, thank you! | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
The actual format lasts for about five minutes. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
The other rest of the show is just mucking around and sodding about. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
So it was a good vehicle for me to do what I do. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-Awight! Awight, mate? -AUDIENCE: Awight! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
Bob Monkhouse used to say that Michael Barrymore was a guy | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
that would go to the end of the gangplank | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
to find out there wasn't a boat there before stepping off. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
And I can see that he would just mine these areas of people. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:20 | |
Ooh, what I wouldn't do to do your washing for a week! | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
-Do my washing? -Yeah! -You'd like to do my washing? -Oh, yeah. -Why? | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
Well, your pants would be blowing by my knicks on the line! | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
Here we go, we're off again! | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
He was unique at that time. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:38 | |
There was nobody like it - he was so daring, so audacious, so brilliant. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
The incredible thing was people would say to me, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
as the producer, "What's happening tonight?" | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
and really I had only the haziest idea. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
Somebody apparently rang down when I was doing Strike It Lucky, said, "Tell him to keep still, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
"you know, when he's mentioning the prizes?" | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
And Maurice said, "I ain't telling him to stand still, that's what he's all about." | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
-What do you do for a living? -He's been in the navy. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
Two weeks. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
-Eh? -Two weeks. -For two weeks? What happened there, John? | 0:44:06 | 0:44:11 | |
-He got piles. -He got piles? -Yeah. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
Nice of her to tell us this, wasn't it? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
I can't wait till we get home. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
I won't go on about it, John, we don't wanna embarrass you about things like this. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
There's no need to embarrass people about these things. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
So how long did you have them for, then, John? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
Any game show or any quiz show, what I've heard, they're all an excuse, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
whatever the format is, to ask general knowledge questions, that's all they are. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
It's no more than that. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
If you look at anything, it's a f... | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
a system of asking questions. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
It's how you get to that. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Middle for the jackpot, come on! Oh! | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
This is for the jackpot, OK? | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
This is for £10,000. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Oh, God. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
"The capital of... | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
"Australia is Canberra. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
"Is that true... | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
"or false?" I'm like giving it to them and they still go... | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
And you see the audience going, "True, true, true!" | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
And I'm going, "Is it TRUE...?" | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
-True. -£10,000! | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
He was so popular that when he went on the road with a new show, over 50,000 people turned up to meet him. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:34 | |
My Kind Of People was my idea, originally, I said, er... | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
If you look at My Kind Of People, it's the early days of... | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
version of Pop Idol, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:49 | |
cos we were the first ones to show all the bad ones and the good ones as well. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
UNTUNEFULLY: # You are my sunshine | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
# My only sunshine | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
# You make me happy | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
# When skies are grey | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
# You'll never know, Michael | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
# How much I love you | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
# Please don't take Michael away. # | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
I've got to take you somewhere, you need some medication. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
I'll be back. See you after the break, awight? Bye. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
By 1995, Michael Barrymore had won every major award in television. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:43 | |
Ooh! And the winner is... Michael Barrymore. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
'Even if he does blow the odd one out from time to time, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
'he's generously applauded other people tonight, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
'and now he receives his own award.' | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
Oh! | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
Strange place to keep the hostess. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
It was an extraordinary ability. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
Unfortunately, alongside it, he had his demons, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
and he was, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
as many performers are, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
deeply lacking in self-confidence. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
He knows he's special, he knows he's brilliant, and yet | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
maybe they'll all find him out, maybe it'll all go wrong, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
maybe it'll stop tomorrow, cos really, what is it? | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
# Give me what I ask for | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
# You know the BBC will love it | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
# And they'll pay more! # | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
So the one half of his brain, he knows that he is probably as good as it gets, and the other half of | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
the brain is, he doesn't know what it is, and if he thinks too hard about it, it'll go away and maybe | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
he'll wake up tomorrow morning it won't be there, and of course that's actually what happened. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
That's the danger you've got to watch with comedians. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
They spend all their lives making everybody else happy, and they can be wretched inside, you know? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:55 | |
# Smile, though your heart is aching | 0:47:55 | 0:48:02 | |
# Smile, even though it's breaking | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
# When there are clouds in the sky | 0:48:07 | 0:48:13 | |
# You'll get by... # | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
But despite massive popularity, Barrymore was pursued relentlessly by the tabloid press. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:22 | |
Whoever you are, however tough you think you are, or however tough you happen to be, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:34 | |
no-one is immune to picking up newspapers which are being read by millions | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
and seeing hideous things written about yourself day after day after day. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:46 | |
Eventually, it all spiralled out of control. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
'Flamboyant Michael Barrymore, one of Britain's best known TV quiz masters, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
'now finds himself answering the questions posed by Essex detectives.' | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
I think the saddest thing about Michael Barrymore | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
is that he surrounded himself with... | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
with sycophants, and they... | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
did as much damage to him as he did to himself. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
The job of a broadcaster | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
is to nurture your talent | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
until you don't need them any more. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
Rightly or wrongly, the fact of the matter is, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
if you're a popular entertainer one of the kind of requirements of that job is that you're popular, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
and he clearly at that time was very unpopular. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Barrymore's fall from grace was spectacular. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
# ..You'll see the sun come shining through | 0:49:39 | 0:49:45 | |
# If you just | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
# Smile. # | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
Today the biggest names in entertainment are | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
the first generation of all-rounders who have learned to entertain without working the variety circuit. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:05 | |
They never had an act, they never did the theatres | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
or the clubs or anything like that. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
They started off as child actors in Byker Grove. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
Argh! | 0:50:14 | 0:50:15 | |
He can't see! | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
BYKER GROVE THEME | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
They've come right through the ranks together, both as friends, as colleagues, as mates. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:29 | |
They're married. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:30 | |
They can bounce off each other, it's not just scripted. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
It gives you the same feeling as you got when you were watching | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
Morecambe and Wise, two guys that could sit in bed together. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
It brings the tears to your eyes, doesn't it? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
That's the expression I was looking for, yeah. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Everyone wanted a friend like that, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
that you could take the (BLEEP) out of | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
or you could just enjoy being with. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
Wahey! | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
Dec... | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
-Dec, my friend? -Yes. -How do you feel? | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
I feel tired, emotional, a little bit itchy under me... | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
Oh-ho-ho! Oh! | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
People think they're unassailable - they're not. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
They will have their time, and things will change. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
But at the moment they quite rightly have their title, you know, kings of Saturday night, without a doubt. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:22 | |
Ironically, for all its success, their biggest hit, Saturday Night Takeaway, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
is essentially a traditional variety show not a million miles from Sunday Night At The London Palladium. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:33 | |
So powerful are Ant and Dec that they've even managed to cash in | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
on the reality boom that killed off so many entertainment shows. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:50 | |
Those are our ten new celebrities, picked your favourite yet? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
-Decided which one you fancy? -I have. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
-Hmm? -Yes, well, there's a couple of tasty blondes in there, I can't quite choose between them yet. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
-Yeah, I know what you mean. -Jilly or Carol? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Which one is hotter, do you think? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Ah, you know, this job is getting more and more worthless, | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
because it seems that anyone can come in and do it. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
The good thing is, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
and I still stand by the fact that you may have been on a reality show, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
and you may have become famous for a bit, and you might have made quite a bit of money, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:25 | |
but it depends on how long you can manage to sustain it on the TV. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
So for the all-rounders willing to risk 24-hour surveillance, there was a possible way back to TV stardom. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:39 | |
And the lunatics are taking over the asylum. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
For Joe Pasquale, who debuted 20 years before on New Faces, there was no looking back in 2004. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:48 | |
My agent phoned me and said, "Do you fancy doing it?" I went, "No, tell them where to stick it." | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
He said "Why not?" I said, "I want to go on telly and be a comic, that's what I've done for 20 years." | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
Reality shows are either brilliant, or they are absolutely the kiss of death. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:04 | |
So he said, "Well, look, there is no telly out there for what we do at the moment, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
"but if you go and do this, and you're successful, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
"then they would open up other doors for you to go back and do the stuff that you do." | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
Joe had been an attraction and remains one through his career, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
but in television terms it bought him back into the TV eye. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
He says, "Go out and do this - | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
"whatever you do, don't fart, don't lose your temper, don't scratch your nuts and don't swear." | 0:53:26 | 0:53:31 | |
"If you don't do those four things, you'll win." | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
So I didn't fart, didn't scratch me nuts, didn't swear and didn't lose me temper, and I won. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
Wha-ha-ha-ha! | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
Expect the unexpected, that's all I can say. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
# Bring me sunshine... # | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
It's hard work keeping everybody happy. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
I shall rise to the occasion. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
# ..Bring me laughter... # | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
# All the while... # | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
-HE SQUEALS -Danger's my middle name. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
-BLEEP -I feel like Leonardo di Caprio in the Titanic. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
It was great just have to wash round the Jacobs. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
Jacobs. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:08 | |
Jacobs. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:08 | |
Jacobs. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:08 | |
It was amazing. Thank you. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
For Michael Barrymore, it was a chance to see if his career could be resurrected. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
-Oh, Michael? -Yep? | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
Awight? | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
I would say it's probably one of the greatest experiences I've ever had as a person, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:33 | |
as a human being, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
as a therapy, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
considering I used to pay for it and they paid me, which made a change, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:44 | |
and, erm...and as a performer. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
# I am human and I need to be loved... # | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
The buzz I have now on a daily basis | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
is the best buzz without putting anything down me throat | 0:54:54 | 0:55:00 | |
that I've ever had in me life, so I can't ask for more than that. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
It's all extras. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
'Michael, you have finished second. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
'Please leave the Big Brother house.' | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
All performers have good times and bad times. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
They all have moments when, erm...everything looks | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
bleak for them, and then suddenly they get reborn. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
Remember Forsyth, interestingly, got reborn by going on Have I Got News For You. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
60 odd years after his career began, Bruce Forsyth is back on top - | 0:55:31 | 0:55:37 | |
not so much a reinvention, but a reminder of just how good a game-show host he is. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:42 | |
Play Your Iraqi Cards Right! | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
-Ian, you go first. -Thank you, Bruce. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
It's the king of clubs, Izzat Ibrahim. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
Think about this, the audience'll help you. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
Do you think it's higher or lower? | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
AUDIENCE: Lower! | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
I'd say lower. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
OK, now what have you got? You've got the eight of hearts, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
Minister of Defence Sultan Hashim Ahmad. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
I've been waiting 14 years for the show to be like this! | 0:56:06 | 0:56:11 | |
It was a chance to let people see that at 75 years old you're not over the hill, necessarily. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:18 | |
Within months, he was back on Saturday night TV. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
"Keep going, you fool," I think, is the first thing that comes to mind. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
I'm an entertainer, I'm a performer, I'm an all-rounder. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
I do so many things. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
-It's nice to twirl you, to twirl you... -Nice! | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
And that's about all, really, I don't think there's anything else. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
I'm not too keen on doing any more game shows. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
# And now MacHeath spends... # | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
Arguably, today's best entertainers don't need a TV show to survive. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
But for those all-rounders who are prepared constantly | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
to reinvent themselves, TV is there for the taking. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
You've got some dirty ideas! | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
The enjoyment, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
I have to say, every day of my life I say, "Thank you," and being part of light entertainment. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:18 | |
They haven't sussed me out yet. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
I'm being paid a fortune, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
and they like me. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
It doesn't get any better than this. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
If you want to stay in this business, I think you have to adapt, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
and I don't think for one minute you should complain. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
I still don't think... | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
..I've achieved what I wanted to achieve, not yet, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
and I'm still working on it. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
# Now that Mac is... # | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
I am very grateful, and I'm a lucky little devil. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
Thank you...very, very much. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
# Look out, old Mackie is back! # | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
HE GIGGLES | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
Was that all right? | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
Next time on The Story Of Light Entertainment, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
we'll reveal how radio and television have been involved in a non-stop battle for supremacy | 0:58:16 | 0:58:21 | |
and the truth behind some of the casualties. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
Radio is the mother of television. They're still looking for the father. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
You can't underestimate how important radio has been in the development of British comedy. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
If you've got anybody hailing Chris Evans as a genius, | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
something's very wrong with the world. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
He should have been a big, big star. | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
And then it all fell apart. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
It's very easy to go nuts. | 0:58:45 | 0:58:47 | |
It's a bugger of a business, this, when it goes wrong. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:49 | 0:58:53 |