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"I took her hand in mine and we went out of the ruined place. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
"And, as the morning mists had risen long ago when I left the forge, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
"so the evening mists were rising now, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
"and in all the broad expanse of tranquil light | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
"they showed to me, I saw no shadow of another parting from her." | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
These are the final words of Charles Dickens' Great Expectations, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
in which the hero, Pip, is reunited with the love of his life, Estella. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
It's a moving ending to what is arguably his greatest work. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
But it almost never existed. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
This wasn't quite how Dickens had planned it. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
He originally wrote another finale, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
a bleak scene that saw his two characters part ways for ever. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
But he had second thoughts, scrapping the final pages | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
and rewriting them, leaving the couple walking off, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
hand in hand, in the evening light. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Some say that was a cop out, that Dickens was letting himself | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
and the book down by simply dashing off a happy ending. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
But I think there's more to it than that. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I'm a writer myself and I know that changing the end of a book is | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
one of the most radical things any author can do. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
It's peculiar that Dickens would want to alter something | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
so integral to the story. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
So, why did he make that decision? What inspired it? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
And what could it tell us about Dickens himself? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
To find out, I need to learn more about Dickens as a writer, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
who he wrote for and why. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
And I also need to understand how his own life fed into his work, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
how his difficult upbringing | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
and troubled relationships both haunted and motivated him. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Far from being just a few hurried scribblings at the end of a novel, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
I think this new ending gives a real insight into Dickens, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
both as an author and as a man. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
In the 15 years I spent as an EastEnders scriptwriter, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
my colleagues always told me that | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
if Charles Dickens was alive today, he'd be doing exactly what I was - | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
writing soaps. Maybe that's just how soap writers of today would like to | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
think of themselves. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
After all, who wouldn't want to be mentioned in the same breath | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
as Charles Dickens? There's some truth to it, though. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Dickens serialised his novels weekly and monthly, and just | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
like soap writers of today, he was a populist through and through. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
He wrote for a mass audience and they adored him for it. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
I'm not quite sure that I could have been the Dickens of his day. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
His output was prolific. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
He came up with 20 novels, hundreds of articles, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
and 989 named characters during his lifetime. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
But I've been fascinated with him since my EastEnders days. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
So much so that I'm writing a new series | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
based on some of his characters. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Kind of a soap opera set in Dickens' imaginary world. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
I think you can begin to understand something of Dickens | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
just by reading his books. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
He gives us a glimpse of himself in all his work. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
But none are more revealing than this, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
in my opinion his best book, Great Expectations. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Written in 1860 and 1861, a decade before Dickens' death, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
Great Expectations is widely regarded as one of the great | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
novels in the English language. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
It boasts some of Dickens' most memorable scenes, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
not least the opening, set in a graveyard on the North Kent marshes. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
Here, a young orphan, Pip, is visiting his family's graves, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
a typically Dickensian scene setter, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
when he is accosted by an escaped convict, Magwitch. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
"A man who had been soaked in water, and smothered in mud, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
"and lamed by stones, and cut by flints, and stung by nettles, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
"and torn by briars, who limped and shivered and glared and growled, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
"and whose teeth chattered in his head, as he seized me by the chin." | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
It's a terrifying opening in some ways, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
with Magwitch threatening to kill Pip, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
but Dickens fills it with brilliant visual humour throughout, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
giving the scenes an offbeat, absurd quality. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Dickens actually wanted Great Expectations to be a comedy | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
and he called its opening pages "exceedingly droll". | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
In chapter three, Pip, fresh from stealing a blacksmith's file for | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
Magwitch to cut his shackles, runs into a herd of judgmental cattle. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
"One black ox with a white cravat on, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
"who even had, to my awakened conscience, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
"something of a clerical air, fixed me | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
"so obstinately with his eyes | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
"and moved his blunt head round in such an accusatory manner as | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
"I moved round, that I blubbered out to him, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
" 'I couldn't help it, sir. It wasn't for myself I took it.' " | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
Dickens always had an acute sense of the tragicomic. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
In Oliver Twist, he wrote that all good murderous melodramas | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
were constructed like streaky bacon. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
The red and the white representing comedy and tragedy, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
fried up together, complementing each other, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
and this is precisely what he does here. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
For me, this is perfect writing. The ability to swerve between comedy | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
and drama without it ever feeling unnatural. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It's exactly what I've been trying to do for much of my life. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
It's the secret to good popular drama, but here it feels effortless. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
The Pip in the graveyard grows up | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
and is gifted a huge amount of money by a mysterious benefactor. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Ashamed of his family and humble upbringing, Pip moves here, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
to Central London, to become a gentleman, taking up | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
a dandy-ish lifestyle of partying, drinking and spending money. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
He believes that his patron is the infamous Miss Havisham, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
the wealthy unhinged spinster, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
jilted at the altar many years ago and adopted mother of Estella. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He's infatuated with the beautiful, aloof Estella | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and convinces himself that Miss Havisham is funding him, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
grooming him even, so that he and Estella will one day marry. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
But then comes Dickens' big plot twist, as he put it, "the very | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
"fine, new and grotesque idea", upon which the whole story hinges. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
Pip's benefactor isn't Miss Havisham. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
It's Magwitch, the convict he helped as a youngster. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Pip is devastated, realising that he left his home, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
the people he loves, on a false hope. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Even worse, he knows that he was never meant for Estella. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
As a plot device, this works brilliantly. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
As the hero struggles to deal with the dashing | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
of his great expectations, the book steps up a gear. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
More set pieces, more drama, as Dickens hikes up the tension, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
page after page. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
At the same time, there is a dramatic shift in tone. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
The book becomes darker and more melancholy. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Pip berates himself for his decisions, his snobbery and pride. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
"I thought how miserable I was, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
"but hardly knew why or how long I had been so, or on what day | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
"of the week I made the reflection, or even who I was that made it." | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
He learns that Estella has married a violent, brutal man. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Humbled, he leaves the country to become a lowly clerk. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
It's on his return, over a decade later, when he meets Estella | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
again by chance, and we arrive at the ending that almost never was. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
This change in tone in the novel, this...darkening, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
really tells us a lot about Dickens. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
This was a man who set out to write a comedy, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
but ended up writing a moral drama that somehow veered into tragedy. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
To me, Great Expectations suggests an author caught between those | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
two things, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
trying to tread a delicate path between the light and the shade. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
Here at the Wisbech and Fenland Museum in Cambridgeshire, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
we can get an even better glimpse into Dickens' mind. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
And into his struggles with the ending of the novel. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-So, this is the original manuscript of Great Expectations. -Yes. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Isn't it fantastic to work with the original like this? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
And we can see all of the changes that Dickens makes. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
And first thoughts and second thoughts. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
So you can actually see where he struggled, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
I guess, during the writing process. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
One of the surprising things we can see in this manuscript is that | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
a couple of the comic scenes that we'd imagined just flowing | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
out of Dickens so naturally, that's really what he's known for, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
that brilliant kind of fluid comic writing, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
he's actually worked those a bit. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
So if we have a look at this scene where Pip goes to school, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
it's this fantastic scene with Mr Wopsle's great aunt throwing | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
-things at the naughty schoolchildren. -Oh, wow! He's really struggled here! | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Yeah, we've got quite a lot of amendment there. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
There's also a very interesting bit at the end. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
This is the manuscript that Dickens changes the most, at the very end. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
And we've got these two competing endings. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
So you see here, this cancelled out section. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
We get this start of an original ending which Dickens wrote | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
that was very bleak. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
It features Pip and Estella meeting by accident, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
as Dickens puts it, in Piccadilly. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Dickens's great friend, John Forster, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
kept a copy of the first ending, which he then produced | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
with his biography of Dickens some years after Dickens died. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
And it says here, "The lady and I | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
"looked sadly enough on one another," which would be Estella. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
And he goes on, "She gave me the assurance that suffering had | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
"been stronger than Miss Havisham's teaching, and had given her | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
"a heart to understand what MY heart used to be." | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
That's quite grim. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Yeah, Estella's also remarried, so in practical terms, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
there's no romantic future for her and Pip, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
it's a very definite closing of that possibility. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Why do you think he changed it? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
Well, he went to a friend of his that weekend, and he didn't like it. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
He says to Dickens, we think, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
"This is too bleak, or this is too uncomfortable for your readers," | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
something along those lines, and Dickens agrees to rethink it. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
So the ending that we then have, Pip meets Estella in the garden | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
of Satis House - the home that she's grown up in with Miss Havisham, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
and this very important location for him and her through their lives. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
It's a moonlight scene, the fogs are rising | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and then there's just the possibility | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
that maybe there's a Pip/Estella future. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
"I took her hand in mine, we went out of the ruined place. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
"And in all the broad expanse of tranquil light they showed to me, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
"I saw no shadow of another parting from her." | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
So that's a happy ending. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Do you feel it's...? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
It feels more satisfying | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
than going from the grimness of this chance meeting in Piccadilly | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
to them actually reaching a conclusion. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Yes. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
The "no shadow" still reads slightly ambiguously to me, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
and maybe more so if we look at the changes Dickens makes to get there. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
So in the manuscript here, it's slightly differently phrased, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
"The shadow of no parting from her but one." | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
-Meaning death, I guess? -Yes. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
And there, instead of "no shadow of another parting", | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
we've got this different wording - the shadow of NO parting. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Dickens immediately decides to cut "but one", | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
so we never get this "only in death". | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
So he was really struggling with this ending, to get it right. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Yeah, it's going through a number of quite substantial changes, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
I think, that he really changed the tone | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
and perhaps the way we're invited to read these lines. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
I think it shows that it's something that he himself is... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
uncomfortable about, unsure about. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
It continues to bother him, even after the book is closed. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
Dickens' revised finale may not be a simple, happy ending, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
but it does offer some hope - a possible future for Pip and Estella. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
But why did Dickens, who was usually so decisive and forthright, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
decide to make such a massive change? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
I'm not sure I buy Dickens changing the end of this book simply | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
because a friend suggested he do so. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
As writers, we agonise over things like this, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
and it's clear that's what Dickens is doing here. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
He keeps going back to it, changing the odd word, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
playing with the nuance of the language, trying to make it perfect, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
trying to get the balance right, tonally, between light and shade. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
But for a writer of Dickens' calibre to be this indecisive, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
something must be eating away at him. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
What is it? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
You can always discover something of an author by looking | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
at their audience, by working out who they're writing for. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
The literary establishment at the time | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
actually looked down on Dickens, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
but he was always more interested in what his readership, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
drawn from the middle and working classes, had to say. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Any writer worth his salt will tell you, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
you need to understand your audience. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
When I'm writing, I feel the whole audience behind me, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
looking over my shoulder at the page. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
What I love about Dickens is he clearly understands that | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
better than anyone else. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
He talks about his audience in personal terms, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
as if they were all sitting around a fire together, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
like they were friends. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
In 1853, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
a few years before the publication of Great Expectations, Dickens | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
began to tour the country, reading his novels to packed audiences. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
This was a chance to get closer to his audience than ever before. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
There were tears, laughter, people fainted. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
He sold out huge venues, where people queued overnight, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
and tickets were touted at five times their face value. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
And remember, this isn't the Rolling Stones I'm talking about - | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
this was Charles Dickens, the novelist. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
The audience who worshipped him on the stage | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
were the same audience who bought his novels. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Instead of publishing these novels in one volume, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Dickens divided them into chunks and serialised them, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
weekly or monthly, in popular journals. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
It was a style pioneered by Dickens himself. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
By serialising the stories, he kept his audience waiting | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
with bated breath for the next instalment. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
As his friend Wilkie Collins said, "Make 'em laugh, make 'em cry, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
"make 'em wait." | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
In 1859, Dickens set up his own journal, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
based in this building in Covent Garden. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
These books contain all the original journals from 1860 and 1861, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
including Great Expectations as it was first serialised. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
This is the very first instalment, published in December 1860. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
Dickens actually had to rush publication of the novel | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
because his journal all the year round was haemorrhaging readers, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
and he knew that a new novel from him would help boost sales. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Dickens' plan worked. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
The first instalments were wildly successful, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
selling 100,000 copies a week. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
And the audience kept coming back for more, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
not least because of something very close to my heart, the cliff-hanger. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
You can't tell me what to do - you ain't my mother! | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
Yes, I am! | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
Back in the day, when I was trying to write three cliff-hangers a week | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
on EastEnders, sometimes I had no idea where I was going to go next. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Dickens tended to plan things a little bit better, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
he generally knew where he was going. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
And he was a genius at writing them too. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
This is one of my favourites, at the end of chapter 42. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Pip's about to go through his door, when someone hands him a note. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
"I opened it, the watchman holding up his light, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
"and read inside, in Wemmick's writing, 'DON'T GO HOME.' " | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
EASTENDERS DRUMBEAT | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
This is clearly a man who knows | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
how to keep an audience on the edge of their seat, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
to keep them reading, to keep them buying his magazine. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
And he must have realised that his audience would clamour | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
for some kind of happy ending | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
for the characters they'd spent the last year with, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
week in, week out. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
But I'm not convinced this is the whole story. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Dickens was aware of his audience, but he didn't pander to them. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
So I don't believe he would change the ending | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
just to keep his audience happy, any more than I believe | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
he would change the ending because a friend told him to. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
So what else is behind his decision, or rather his indecision? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
I think that the answer may lie in Dickens' own story, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
in his intimate connection to the people and places | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
of Great Expectations. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
For me there's something very personal at the heart of this novel. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
So in order to understand this ending a little better, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
we need to go back to the beginning, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
to the opening scenes of both the novel and Dickens' own childhood. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
He grew up here, close to the North Kent Marshes. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
For Dickens as a child, these marshes must have seemed | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
like a particularly foreboding landscape, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
but he describes them beautifully in his book. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
"The dark flat wilderness beyond the churchyard, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
"intersected with dykes and mounds and gates, was the marshes. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
"And that the distant savage lair | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
"from which the wind was rushing was the sea; | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
"and that the small bundle of shivers | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
"growing afraid of it all and beginning to cry, was Pip." | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
You can just imagine Dickens as a child, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
staring out at the hulks - these huge prison ships docked | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
in the Medway - thinking what would happen if the prisoners escaped. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
40 years later, he turns this into the opening of Great Expectations. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
Dickens' early memories of this landscape helped inspire | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
the setting, the feel of the story, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
but how much more of his life can we see in his work? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Was it Dickens' own childhood that led him | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
to write characters like Pip? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
He was obsessed with childhood, and it's partly because of his own. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
And he's brilliant at not just... the pleasures of childhood, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
you know, the imagination, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
the sense of wonder, but also the terrors of childhood. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Pip talks about this in Great Expectations, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
he talks about terror a lot, and Dickens had | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
a kind of photographic memory for those sorts of feelings. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
What about his relationship with his father | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
cos obviously he's fatherless, if you like, in Great Expectations, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
so how did that play in, do you think? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Well, so John Dickens was a spendthrift. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
And he was imprisoned for debt when Dickens was a young boy. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
Because of that, Dickens then had to go out to earn money, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
just a few pennies a day, and he was sent to work | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
in this blacking warehouse, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
which is a word for... basically a shoe-polish factory. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
And that really bit into Dickens, those feelings of shame, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
those feelings that all his own expectations had been frustrated. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
And he never forgot it, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
and he never forgave his parents for making him do it. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
So Dickens as a child always felt that he deserved better | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
or should have better, so, in a way, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
it's almost as though he had his own great expectations? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
He did. Full of ambition, but also full of the fear of failure. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Great Expectations is a novel | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
about how you become the person that you are, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
but also there's that nagging feeling that it might be taken away | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
from you at any moment, which is, of course, exactly what happens to Pip. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
So do you think Dickens really identified with Pip? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
I think Dickens identifies with ALL his characters. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
He saw them all as strange distorted reflections of himself. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
But Pip was closer to him | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
because Pip reflected the side of him that he'd never quite managed | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
to get out of his system, and that's the hurt, lonely, abused boy | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
that he felt he had been, and was like a bruise that would never heal. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
Dickens' obsession with his childhood was so strong | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
that, in 1857, he moved back to Rochester, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
a stone's throw from where he'd grown up. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
It was here that he would write most of Great Expectations. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
This return to Rochester must have made his childhood memories | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
all the more vivid. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
And as he sat down to write the novel, he filled it with people | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
and places pulled directly from these streets. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Dickens had often walked past Restoration House as a boy, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
struggling to imagine what went on inside. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Now, seeing this palatial mansion again, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
he could re-imagine its story for Great Expectations. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
So in the book, Dickens gives Pip privileged access to the very | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
same house, renames it Satis House, and imagines it to be | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Miss Havisham's lair, crumbling to pieces. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
This Satis House is at the heart of Pip and Estella's relationship | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
throughout the novel. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
And Dickens has them return to the same spot for his revised ending. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
The end of this book is about Pip returning | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
by going back to the place where the story started. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
I think this is Dickens saying, "I've come home." | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
But when Pip returns to Satis House at the end of the novel, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
he has failed entirely to live up to his great expectations. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
Having spent most of the book | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
believing he is destined for something, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
he ends up sinking into mediocrity. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Could Charles Dickens have felt the same about himself, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
upon his own return? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
This is Gad's Hill Place in Rochester, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
where Dickens wrote most of Great Expectations. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
When Dickens was a boy, his father used to walk him past this house, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
telling his son that | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
if ever one day he was successful enough, he should buy it. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
In 1856, when the house came on the market, Dickens by now was | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
hugely successful, and that's exactly what he did. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
I think that gives us a real insight into how, even 40 years on, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Dickens was still affected by his childhood. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Most of the book was written here, in the study. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
As a writer, it's quite humbling to be in Charles Dickens' study. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
I feel like a bit of a fraud, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
a little bit like a Sunday league player trying on Pele's boots. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
Dickens tended to write here from ten to two every day. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
He was a quick worker, but could spend whole mornings sitting, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
staring into space, dreaming up stories. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
He loved mirrors. His daughter once caught him | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
while he was writing, staring into a mirror, making strange faces | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
and noises, creating characters and chiselling them in his mind. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
And when he wanted to escape his hectic household, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
he would simply stroll across his garden | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
and into this tunnel which he had specially built, leading through | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
to his own private wilderness on the other side of the road. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
He had a gargoyle installed at either end, bought from Italy - | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
one representing comedy, the other tragedy. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Kind of says it all. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Comedy and tragedy, the twin pillars of Dickens's streaky-bacon genius, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
the dark and the light that played such a big role in his life. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
So here is Dickens in 1860. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
He's the rich, successful writer, a celebrity even, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
and living in the house he dreamt of owning when he was a child. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
You would think he would be content. Happy maybe? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
But Great Expectations doesn't really feel like a book | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
written by a happy person. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
So I'm trying to get a sense of where Charles Dickens was | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
when he was writing Great Expectations. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
What was going on in his life? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
The easiest way to sum it up is he's a little bit all over the place. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
In his life, he was going through | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
probably the most major disruption, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
emotionally and psychologically, that he'd ever been through. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
In 1858, he publicly separated from his wife. At the same time | 0:24:48 | 0:24:55 | |
he was almost definitely having an affair with a much younger actress, | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
which he worked very, very hard to keep quiet. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
And he would actually rent houses under false names, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
a little bit like Dickens characters' names, to keep her there. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
He would take her back and forth to France. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
There were rumours that she had a termination of a pregnancy. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
All of this was done without the public's knowledge. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
And can you see any of this domestic turmoil in the book? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Oh, absolutely. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
Pip has this absolute lifelong infatuation with Estella, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
whose name echoes the sounds of his real-life lover, Ellen Ternan. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
You have the Es, the Ls. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Estella, as her name suggests, it means "star", | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
it's kind of ice maiden. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Ellen also was rumoured to be not quite as passionate | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
about Dickens as he was about her. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
For him, she was the be all and end all, for her, we don't know. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
So I think a lot of this is written into Great Expectations. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
There are certain passages when I feel that, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
although it's Pip talking about Estella, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
there's times when I feel, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
is this Charles Dickens talking about Ellen Ternan? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Love generally isn't Dickens's strong point. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
He usually makes love humorous or he writes it badly, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
and in Great Expectations we have these incredibly powerful | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
convincing outpourings of love from Pip to Estella. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
But what we do see is a very different tone in this later novel | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
from the cheerful earlier Dickens. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
It's quite bleak, quite tortured, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
and I think what's coming through is Dickens still was not happy, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
even though he may have been in an affair. But lots of feelings | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
in the novel of frustration, pain, isolation and difficulty. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
Almost everything I have written has been personal at some level. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
I suppose I use writing as a kind of therapy | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
to work out problems in my own life through my characters. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
And I think this is exactly what Dickens is doing here. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
It's clear that he invested something of himself, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
but not just in Pip - | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
in BOTH these characters, in the very idea of Pip and Estella. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
What's remarkable about Great Expectations is that | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
despite these difficult years - the most difficult of his life - | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Dickens responded with one of his great novels, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
one of THE great novels. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
As he lost control of events in his life, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
he tried to wrestle it back with his fiction, and with great success. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
All this wrangling and worry over the ending reflects both | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
the novel as a whole and Dickens' state of mind. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
He was struggling, with the tone of his books, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
with audience expectations, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
with his past and with the way his life had turned out. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
An unhappy man, Dickens at first picked the bleaker ending, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
settling down in the shade. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
He was right to reject the idea of a simple happy ending. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
But he realised that these characters | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
that he'd spent so long with | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
deserved something better than a gloomy last goodbye. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
So he came up with something more ambiguous - | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Pip seeing no shadow of another parting from Estella. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
This new ending doesn't offer a definitive answer. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
He was too good a writer for that. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
But it offers some hope, a chink of light. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
In offering the possibility that these two imperfect characters could | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
have a future together, he isn't simply giving in to other people. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
He wants it too. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
To me, it's kind of an exercise in wish fulfilment. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
In hinting at a happy ending for Pip, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
Charles Dickens is imagining one for himself. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
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and the other books in this series, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
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