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Just about halfway up the hillside, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
you can see a farm with a barn attached. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
That's Bank Ground Farm, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
or better known in the Swallows And Amazons stories as Holly Howe. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Arthur Ransome's Swallows And Amazons | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
was published in 1930, and has been captivating readers ever since. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
The story tells of the Walker and Blackett children, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
the Swallows and Amazons of the title, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
and their Lakeland summer holiday adventures. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
When I first read this book as a child, I felt I was John, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
captain of the swallows, a 12-year-old pining for adventure. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Risks? Of course. But that's life, isn't it? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
And when I had two sons of my own, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
we came back here for years to sail and to fish. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
Swallows and Amazons forever! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'Ransome's much-loved classic has sold over 2.5 million copies, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
'and has brought generations of fans to the wild | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
'and romantic setting of the Lake District.' | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
-So, you are a fan, are you? -I am a fan. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
I read it to my children many years ago, when they were young. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
I confess, I thought I learnt enough from reading the book that | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
I could go off and sail a boat. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
'Ransome was not just a much-loved children's author | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
'and illustrator. He was also a globetrotting journalist, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
'who witnessed some of the most dramatic events of the 20th century.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
This is actually a letter from Lenin, giving Ransome free passage. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
'But Ransome is best remembered for perfecting a new | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
'kind of children's fiction that chimed with the mood of the time.' | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
Real children doing real things in real places. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Swallows And Amazons is great in so many ways | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
but I want to uncover some of its secrets. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Why did Arthur Ransome write it? Who was it for? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
And can we find the exact locations | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
where this wonderful adventure took place? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
"Looking down from Titty's peak in the evening of the day | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
"on which they'd come to the farmhouse | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
"where their mother had taken lodgings, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
"they'd seen the lake like an inland sea. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
"And, on the lake, they'd seen the island. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
"All four of them had been filled at once with the same idea. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
"It was not just AN island. It was THE island, waiting for THEM. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
"It was THEIR island." | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
No child could resist that. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Swallows And Amazons begins with a vision of a vision - | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
a vision of freedom and new horizons. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
After spotting the island, the Walker children, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
who are staying at Holly Howe farmhouse for their summer holiday | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
discover a small sailing dinghy named Swallow. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Geraint Lewis owns a similar boat and has kindly agreed to take me out | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
on Coniston Water to follow in the wake of Captain John and his crew. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
Morning, John. Good to see you. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Hello. I'm looking forward to this trip. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Yes, it is a great day for a sail, I think. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
-Do you want to come aboard? -Yeah. -This is Peggy. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Well, it's exactly the same boat that all of them would be sailing on. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
Yes, pretty much. Pretty much. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
She's a very traditional early 20th-century sailing dinghy. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
-It's a lovely boat. -Follow me aboard. -"Aye, aye, Sir," I should say. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
If you'd like to go to the stern. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-I will, cos he loved all these technical terms. -He did. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
He's very natural with them as well. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I mean, there was no sense that he was teaching people | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
how to sail and, yet, he managed to bring an awful lot of instruction | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
into the books, which people just pick up as part of the stories. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
'Swallow, with its crew, Captain John, Mate Susan, Able Seaman Titty | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
'and Ship's Boy Roger, ranging in age from 12 to seven, set sail. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
'Destination - the island that has enticed them | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
'since they first arrived.' | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
What's difficult about sailing on a lake? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Well, the difficulty here with Coniston is you get | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
a lot of gusty wind, a lot of wind changes, as we've just noticed. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
When we look at this lake, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
this isn't exactly the same as the book, is it? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
No, the one in the book, I think, is rather larger than Coniston. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
Maybe not quite as large as Windermere, but larger. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Mind your head again. Oops! | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-The lake is clearly... -OK, we're going now. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
..clearly a bit different from the lake in the book. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
So, we're heading now down towards Peel Island. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Yeah, we're heading south for Peel Island. It's about two miles away. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
You can see it there just poking out from the land. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
And this is Wild Cat Island, isn't it? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
This is as close as you'll get to Wild Cat Island, really. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-This is exactly the right boat we're on. -We are. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
We're in the right boat, we're in the right place, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
having a great time. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
We've got a fair wind. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
-Could you ask for anything more? -It is. It's perfect. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
The story of Swallows And Amazons | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
has its roots in Ransome's own childhood. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Born in the city of Leeds in 1884, his father, a keen countryman, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
introduced him to the Lake District from a young age. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Ransome, in a later preface to Swallows And Amazons, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
pays an emotional tribute to this unique landscape. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
"We adored the place. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
"Coming to it, we used to run down to the lake, dip our hands in, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
"and wish, as if we'd just seen the new moon. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
"Swallows And Amazons grew out of those old memories. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
"I could not help writing it. It almost wrote itself." | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
The Lake District has long been a source of inspiration for writers. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
Professor Nicola Watson is an expert on travel writing | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
and children's literature. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
What is it about the Lake District that's inspired writers? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
I think, really, it's just been a very, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
very famously beautiful place for a long time. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It starts off in the 1720s, regarded as a very ugly and dangerous place, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
so defers to England or Britain, suggests that it's desolate. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
But by the middle of the 1700s, and onto the late 18th century, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
it becomes a famous place to go and admire the picturesque, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
to go in for sketching. That brings Wordsworth. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
That brings a whole new ideology of childhood in nature. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
So, that's why for a children's writer, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
the Lake District has been a wonderful place to work. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Yes, I think so. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Or, rather, it became a good place to bring children for holidays. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
And, then, of course, when you became a children's writer yourself, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
most children's writers write, in fact, about their own childhoods. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Arthur Ransome started writing when he was very young. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
When he was eight, he sort of writes | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
the ur-Swallows And Amazons which he calls The Desert Island. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
And I've got a bit here. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
"The next day, they climb to the top of the lookout place | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
"but could see nothing of the savages. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
"So they got some more provisions ready in case | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
"they were attacked again. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
"And, sure enough, that evening, which was the 24th December, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
"when they went up to the lookout place, they saw a huge | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
"fleet of brown-sailed canoes making straight for the island." | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
And so many of the words are the same, aren't they? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Whether it's the "lookout point," "provisions," "savages," | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
-and, of course, "the island." -"The island," indeed. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
'It would be nearly 40 years after that first boyish story that | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
'Ransome began work on the book that made him famous. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
'And here at the Museum Of Lakeland Arts And Industry in Kendal | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
'is the only known manuscript of Swallows And Amazons.' | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
This is the heart of the collection. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Arthur Ransome's desk, his typewriter, and all his pipes, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
a vital part of the Ransome life. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
And, here, we've got a completed book in manuscript form. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
And he calls it The Swallows And The Amazons. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
And he scratched it out on this page. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And he writes this is the rough draft in 1929. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
And what's interesting was that he started work | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
on Swallows And Amazons in March of that year. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
By the end of the year, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
here he is with what looks like almost the complete version. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
It's extraordinary. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
And one of the early bits that everyone remembers who read | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
the book is the telegram. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
This is the most famous telegram that ever appears in a children's book. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
And it's sent by the father, who is a commander in the Royal Navy. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
He's asked whether his children can go and camp on this island | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
for four or five days. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Is that going to be possible? And he sends back this marvellous telegram, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
which is, "BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS IF NOT DUFFERS WON'T DROWN." | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
"'Hurrah for Daddy' he shouted. 'What does it mean?' asked Susan. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
"'It means Yes,' said Titty." | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
And what he means, of course, is that if they're duffers, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
they may as well drown. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
So this means they can go off on their adventure, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
sailing to Wild Cat Island. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
It's the beginning of this terrific adventure. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
So, this is the secret harbour on Wild Cat Island. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
And you have to come in very carefully here because of the rocks. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
You do. The lake's high at the moment, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
but there's a lot more rocks underwater...you can't see. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
-It is like a natural harbour, isn't it? -It is. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
-It's very small, but it's a perfect harbour, really. -Perfect. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Great place to hide your boat. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
There we are. Wild Cat Island. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
-I think we should pull the boat up and explore. -Yeah, that's great. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
It's wonderful. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
And, of course, in the book, it's a much bigger island, isn't it? | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
I think so. The island in my imagination | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
is two or three times the size of this, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
but it's still a perfectly formed island. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
And most exciting to have a look around. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
"At last, the green trees were close ahead, and Swallow was safe | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
"in the pool and ran her nose up the beach in the tiny bay. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
"Sheltered by the trees from the north | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
"and by the walls of rock from any other wind. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
"'What a place,' said the Able Seaman. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
"'I expect somebody hid on the island hundreds of years ago | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
"'and kept his boat here.' | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
"'It's a perfect harbour,' said John." | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
'But after their successful landing, it soon becomes clear that | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
'someone else has already discovered the island. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
'The rival crew are the Blackett sisters, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
'in their sailing dinghy, Amazon. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
'There were two real boats which were the original Swallow and Amazon. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
'One actually called Swallow has sadly disappeared but the other, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
'Mavis, on which Amazon is believed to have been based, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
'is on display at the Ruskin Museum in Coniston.' | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
How wonderful! | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
It's still here! | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And it's got the centreboard. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
This is the actual boat which inspired Amazon, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
the terror of the seas, crewed by the sworn enemies of the Swallow | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
Captain Nancy, aged 13, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and Shipmate Peggy, 12. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
And this is how Ransome described their first fateful encounter. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
"The four explorers of the Swallow stood facing | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
"the two pirate girls from the Amazon. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
"The Amazons were bigger than most of the Swallows. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
"One of them was bigger than Captain John. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
"The other was about the same size. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
"If it had come to a fight, it might have been a very near thing. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
"But it did not come to a fight. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
"'Let's parlay first and fight afterwards,' | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
"said the leader of the Amazons." | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I've always liked the way the children are so confident | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
and optimistic. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Some of them have traditional roles, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
with Captain John the obvious father figure, and Susan clearly the mother. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
But the Amazon pirates are certainly not held back because they're girls. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:09 | |
They are bold, strong, and fiercely independent. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
'Perhaps surprisingly, these virtues weren't in fact new | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
'to Swallows And Amazons. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
'Literature aimed at young girls of the time was full | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
'of plucky characters and exciting action.' | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
The '30s is strongly interested, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
especially for middle-class children, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
in ways of teaching them how to be self-sufficient. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
A lot of the books are about Girl Guides, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
about playing Crusoe on islands. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
And we also see direct references by the children to the books | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
-they've read. In real life. -We do. Robinson Crusoe, the obvious one. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
Robinson Crusoe is the grandfather text for the whole thing. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Although there are a lot of other sorts of reading kicking around. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Well, there's Treasure Island. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
There is Treasure Island, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
which is the reason that treasure is eventually found. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
Coral Island, the whole idea of desert islands | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
and surviving on them. That's Ballantyne, of course. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
And that whole 1890s discourse of true stories of exploration. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:21 | |
Books called things like Brave Sons Of The Empire, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
which you were supposed to be emulating. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
How much is the Empire and imperialism reflected | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-in Swallows And Amazons? -Oh, enormously. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
I think what you have is a fantasy of maps, for one thing. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
If you look at the endpapers of Swallows And Amazons, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
you'll see that it is a way of describing a composite, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
imaginary, imperial territory. So all the references are imperial. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
Rio is there, along with the Amazon, but, so, too, is the Arctic. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Is Wild Cat Island, then, a kind of colony? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
You've got reference to natives, even savages. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Oh, yes, I think so - and, of course, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
it appeals immensely to children even in post-colonial times, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
because one of children's problems | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
is they don't have very much territory of their own, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
so any children's fiction tends to be built around | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
finding a secret den, or finding a secret escape, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
or finding an island of your own, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
and has been for a very, very long time. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
For the young explorers in Swallows and Amazons, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
all grown-ups are natives, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
and there are two in particular who loom large in their thoughts - | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
the mysterious man on the houseboat and the Walker children's mother. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
But although Mother might not exactly be "one of us", | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
she's definitely not "one of them". | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
This is Bank Ground Farm, which in the book is called Holly Howe. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
The children's mother stays here. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
She's perfect in every way, giving them lots of freedom, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
but making sure that in the end they'll be safe. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
"'Oh, no,' said Titty. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
"'On desert islands, they cure everything with herbs. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
"'We'll have all sorts of diseases, plagues and fevers and things, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
"'that no medicine is any good for, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
"'and we'll cure them with herbs that the natives show us.' | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
"At this point, Mother came in and settled the question. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
"'No medicines,' she said. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
"'Anyone who wants doctoring is invalided home.'" | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
But whereas Mother is a protective presence, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
the Houseboat Man, who is uncle to the Amazon girls, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
is anything but friendly to the Swallows. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
He's convinced they're tampering with his boat. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
He lives alone, except for his green parrot, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
a suspicious brass cannon and a precious chest. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
The Swallows decide he's a retired pirate, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and call him Captain Flint. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
Captain Flint has more than a touch of Arthur Ransome - | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
they're both adventurers in disguise. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Ransome's life before he wrote Swallows and Amazons | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
could hardly have been more colourful or more dangerous. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
From 1913 to 1924, Ransome lived and worked in Russia. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
He was there during two of the most monumental events in history - | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
the First World War and the Russian Revolution. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I have come to the Brotherton Library at Leeds University | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
to meet an author and expert on Ransome, Christina Hardyment. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
-Hello, Christina. -Hello, John. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-The treasure house! -Absolutely. -Yeah. -This is the heart of it. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-This is Arthur Ransome's own trunk. -Gosh. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
AR. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
Well, I particularly like this, cos he was quite adventurous, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
as you know - he loved going all over the place. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
This is this rather splendid passport. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
Yes, so that's - he goes off to Russia, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
and we've got all these visas - look at that. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
OK, what else have we got? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
This is his press pass. He was a journalist for the Daily News... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
-Yes. -..which was quite a liberal, left-wing newspaper. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
-And that says Moscow, 1917 - now that's a date, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
-Absolutely. -So, we're talking about the October Revolution of 1917, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
the Russian Revolution. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
-OK. -Well, this is the pride of the collection - | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
this is actually a letter from Lenin giving Ransome free passage. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
And Ransome knew him well, didn't he? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
He did know him well, and he knew quite a lot of people, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
like Trotsky, he knew extremely well. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
And there was no other journalist that had that level of contact | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
with the top people in Russia. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
And they trusted him, and so he reported what he saw. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
-He was a very honest, honourable man. -Yes. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Did he work for both sides? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
Although he was passing intelligence back to the British, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
he was also telling the Bolsheviks how things were | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
in an honest way, but he certainly never... | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
There is no record of him passing crucial information to Russia, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
which is the definition of a double agent. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
So, why was it that Arthur Ransome just gave up journalism? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Well, his plan was to write fairy tales, or folk tales, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
derived from the Russian tradition. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
So, he went into journalism in Russia... Well, almost by chance. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
Absolutely. He didn't want to go to cover a war or anything. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
He went to Russia before there was a war, he went to Russia | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
because Russia was a rather fashionable place to go. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
He loved folk tales, and had already written some, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
but Russian - it would be rather original | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
to write some Russian tales. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
So, far from wanting to be a spy, or even a journalist, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Arthur Ransome had always harboured an ambition | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
to be a writer of children's fiction, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
and after 11 years of overseas adventure, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
he longed to return to England. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
But he didn't return alone. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
While in Russia he had fallen in love | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
with no less a person than Trotsky's personal secretary, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Evgenia Shelepina. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
This is where Ransome came with his second wife, Evgenia, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and you can see why they chose it. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
What a fantastic view. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
In the spring of 1925, Ransome and Evgenia | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
settled at Low Ludderburn, just a few miles from Lake Windermere. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Beside their new home was a large barn | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
which would prove to be a place of inspiration for Ransome. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
After all the dangers and hardships in Russia, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Ransome was finally doing what he wanted to do - | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
it was here that he wrote Swallows and Amazons. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
He said, "I have never had, nor ever hope to have, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
"such another work room." | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Arthur Ransome had come home. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
For the Walker children, their home, at least for a few days, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
is a clearing on Wild Cat Island. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
So, here we are - we're coming to a campsite. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Where they all end up, don't they? All together. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Yes, in the end. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
In the end, the Swallows have tents which rig up between the trees. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Yeah, a perfect place. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-Well, it's beautifully sheltered. -Yeah. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
And so you have your tents here, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
and you have the fireplace here, I suppose. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
-I think in the open area, here... -Yeah. -..and you'd sit around it. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
It feels like a place of their own, I would say. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
A sort of world of their own. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
And what else can we see from here? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Well, we've got a lookout point, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
where they had the lighthouse tree at the top of the island... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
-Yeah. -..and behind us, over the corner, here, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
we have the landing place, where they first land on the island. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
It's all in this one small kind of enclosed space... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
-Yeah. -..around us. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
But the matter of ownership over Wild Cat Island | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
is still to be decided, and the battle is on. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
In the dead of night, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
as the two crews are trying to outmanoeuvre each other, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
Captain Flint's chest is stolen, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
containing his only copy of the book he's writing. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
The war between the Swallows and the Amazons ended peacefully, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
but they still had to find Captain Flint's treasure chest, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
and Arthur Ransome was speaking from the heart | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
about the manuscript hidden inside. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
He would put his Swallows and Amazons manuscript by his bed at night, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
so that he could reach out and touch it, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
just to make sure it was still there. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Ransome wrote the bulk of the book very quickly, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
but he grappled with how to resolve the issue | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
of Captain Flint's stolen chest. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
His revisions can be seen in the original manuscript. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
There's a lot in here | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
where he's playing around with the narrative, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and some of the things that we're familiar with | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
from the finished book look very different. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
There are lots of different versions of who finds the treasure, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
-how they find it and when they find it. -And WHETHER they find it. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-Well, yes. -Is it? Whether they find it. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
-Good point - but have a look at this one. Maybe start from up here. -Yeah. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
"John and Nancy were looking already, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
"and now the Houseboat Man looked all over the island. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
"He could find nothing." | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
-So, then, that looks as if it's grim, doesn't it? -Mm. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
And then, finally, "'No,' said the Houseboat Man, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
"'I'm afraid it will have to be written off as a bad job.'" | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
-We can't have that! -No. -And, of course, he scrapped it. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
And what does he do in the end? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Oh, it's much more exciting, because of course they go back | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and they find the treasure, he's reunited with his book, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and he gives Titty the parrot as a thank you. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Hurrah! | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
"'We've found it! We've found it! We've found it!' shouted Titty. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
"She pulled the stone right away to one side, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
"and there was a torn label on the corner of the box - | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
"a label with a picture of a camel and a pyramid, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
"and the word Cairo, plain in big letters. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
"'Help, Roger,' said the able-seaman, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
"'get the stones off one by one.'" | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Swallows and Amazons was published in July 1930, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
and it wasn't long before Ransome was being asked for a sequel. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Over the next two decades, he wrote another 11 books in the series. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
The adventures of the Walker and Blackett children, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
and the simple, upright virtues they embodied, struck a deep chord, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
and yet Ransome's legacy wasn't totally secure. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Oddly, once the Second World War | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
had washed over it, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
and over the series as a whole, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
it in some ways became bankrupt. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
So, for example, William Golding writes, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
at the beginning of Lord of the Flies, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
that the boys, when they're first shipwrecked, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
think that it's going to be like Swallows and Amazons, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and those of you who've read Lord of the Flies know that...anything but. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
On the other hand, Swallows and Amazons is, in many ways, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
its own legacy - you've only got to come here to the Lake District, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
as you know, to find that the boats are called Swallow, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
they're called Peggy Blackett, they're called Arthur Ransome. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
There's a way that people go on living in relation to this ideal | 0:25:38 | 0:25:45 | |
of child agency, child sufficiency, and bravery. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
Goodness, in some ways - moral goodness. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
Honesty wins out, | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
and with Captain Flint's chest and precious book found, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
the Swallows and Amazons spend a last night together on the island, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
but a new danger loomed. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
"All that last day, there had been the heaviness of thunder in the air. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
"There had been a stormy sunset | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
"and, though there had been but little wind, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
"dark, angry clouds had lifted in the south | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
"until at night they shut out all the stars." | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
The great storm may have washed away their fantasies, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
marking the end of the school holidays and a return to reality, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
but the possibility of escape isn't lost forever. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
For the Swallows and Amazons - | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
and, indeed, for the many children and natives who read this book - | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
it was just the start. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
-Well, I'm afraid it's time to leave, John. -Yes! | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
-Do you want to, er...hop aboard? -OK. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
I'll just get the painter in a sec. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
There's quite a bit of water in the boat. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
-Don't worry, we'll get it out later. -Yeah, OK. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
The tiller is just by your left hand. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-Keep it straight. -I will. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:11 | |
Just got to push her out. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
HE CHUCKLES We're away! | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
"Slowly, the fleet slipped past Wild Cat Island. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
"The island was once more the uninhabited island | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
"that Titty had watched for so many days from the Peak of Darien - | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
"and yet it was not that island. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
"John, looking at it, remembered the harbour and the leading lights, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
"and his swim all around it, and the climbing of the great tree. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
"For Roger, it would always be the place | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
"where he had swum for the first time. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
"For Susan, it was the camp and housekeeping | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
"and cooking for a large family. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
"Titty thought of it as Robinson Crusoe's island." | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
If you want to dig deeper into Arthur Ransome's Swallows and Amazons, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
and the other books in the series, go to... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
..and follow the links | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
to the Open University. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 |