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COMPOSITION SLOWLY BUILDS | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
This is ground zero of a musical revolution. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
In C, written and first performed by Terry Riley in 1964, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
ushered in a whole new musical form. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Arguably the most important musical form of the 20th century. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
Believe me, I've tried in this whole lifetime | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
to come up with another idea, that could be that simple and inclusive, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
and I haven't been able to do it either. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Minimalism's power lay in repetition, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
in transcendence and in technology. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
And it changed the face of music instantly. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
From 1958 to 1976, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
minimalism was the last big idea in classical music. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Born in California before exploding in New York, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
minimalism kicked down the barriers between rock and roll | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and the concert hall | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and influenced some of the biggest albums and bands of the era. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
I'm a minimalist. Come on! | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Four revolutionary composers changed what we thought of as music. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
I love it. Are we rolling? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
I mean, he was all on the stuff, learning to write music. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
I mean, that's really good. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
I'm very unusual. There's no doubt about it. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
But I have talents that are beyond compare. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
And this is the story of the two Californians, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
La Monte Young and Terry Riley, who kicked it all off. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Nothing would be quite the same again. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
MUSIC: G Song by Kronos Quartet | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
California - land of freedom, opportunity | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
and the home of minimalism. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
This is an exploration of the impact | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
of the two Californian pioneering wizards in minimalism. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
La Monte Young and Terry Riley. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
What they shared was a love of eastern influences, of drones, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
and the blissful absorption of chaos and transcendence | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
through repetition. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Riley and Young were prophets without honour, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
visionaries who pre-scored the road ahead. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Their music had a new sensuality and freedom. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
It prefigured the adventure, love and sheer subversive fun | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
that was shortly to sweep right across West Coast '60s America. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
Late '50s America was optimistic. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
It was the end of the Eisenhower era. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
A time of post-war economic boom, 2.5 children, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
shiny new suburbs and white picket fences. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
And in California, a flowering world of freedom, new possibility | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
and sunshine, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
with a soundtrack of cool jazz. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Minimalism had to start in California. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
I think if it hadn't started in California, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
it might not have started at all. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Barriers were breaking down. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Fun was being had in the traditional world of classical music. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
DRUM CRASH | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
One Californian throwing down a gauntlet to the music establishment | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
was pre-minimalist composer John Cage. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Seen here turning the pages on his own work. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
He was out there... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
..yet deadly serious. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
In terms of a minimalist piece, it doesn't get more minimalist | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
than 4' 33" - the silent piece of 1951. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
That same sense of freedom and the kind of limitlessness | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
of what you could be as a composer. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Not even the sounds you could come up with | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
but what it meant to be a composer. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Cage had given them that freedom. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Cage's outrageous work was all about challenging | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
what the world understood as music. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
In 1952, he scandalously declared that Beethoven was wrong. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
An utterance that would sow the seeds of minimalism. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Pretty much since forever, music has been linear. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
It's been goal-oriented. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
A melody will be broken up into, sort of, subsections | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
but each one building on the last one - taking you somewhere. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Usually in groups of three, by the way. Look at this. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
HE PLAYS "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" Setting out its stall. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Little bit of development and then, third phrase, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
we get emancipation | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and everything is aiming to there. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
Now, along comes the amazing, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
iconoclastic, avant-garde composer John Cage in the 1950s | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and he says, maybe that's all wrong. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Maybe there's another way of making music | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
which is about vertical slices of time, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
about the eternal now, about perhaps very, very intense repetition. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
So, perhaps... REPEATS SEQUENCE OF NOTES | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
The whole piece could just be about that. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
One element from Happy birthday or many other opportunities besides | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
and the minimalists took that idea to the Nth degree. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
It was just the idea of repetition. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
That you could hear a process going on | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
and you could get drawn into something very subtle | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
after years in which music had had a kind of kitchen-sink approach | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
where you were supposed to use everything in the world. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Big brass sections, big percussion sections. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Every piece was supposed to do everything | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and all of a sudden you had these little pieces | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
that would just hammer on one sound for a while | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
and you would hear something really interesting going on | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and it would just capture your attention | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
and you couldn't stop listening to it. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
RHYTHMIC CLAPPING | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
MUSIC: Facades by Philip Glass Ensemble | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It was one of Cage's disciples who invented minimalism | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
by slowing down time. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
La Monte Young is a mysterious shaman, now in his 80s, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
who lives in New York, and I've come to find him. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
So, behind this door lives the man | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
known as the grandaddy of minimalism. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
A somewhat mystical figure, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
so I don't really know quite what to expect. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
You can't buy his music, he doesn't release it, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
it fetches enormous sums when bartered over online, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
and he's never, ever been on the BBC before. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
We shall see. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
Here you go. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
This is the only known performance footage of La Monte Young, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
performing The Well-tuned Piano in 1987. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
La Monte, he was the most dramatic. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
In those days, he was dressed in leather, leather boots, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
like a biker's, and chains. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
He wasn't misleading you. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
I mean, the clothes went with the man. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
They weren't just assumed. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
There was always a strong feeling of authenticity about La Monte, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
no matter what you thought of the music and whatever. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
It didn't matter, he was for real. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Young was born in 1935 and grew up in the Golden State. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
Can I take you back to growing up in California and what impact that | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
landscape and that environment had upon your development? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Well, you know, as Gertrude Stein said it, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
that no matter where you are, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
the environment has a big effect on you. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
In California, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
people think nothing of driving eight hours across town | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
to visit a friend, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
then they spend eight hours there, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
and then they have to drive eight hours back, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
sometimes they wait till the next day. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
The sense of time gets really... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
..stretched out, and it's just quite the opposite in New York City, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
where everything is jammed together. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
Time was an important part of the California experience. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Young's Trio For Strings of 1958 was written in the lofty compositional | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
style that held sway at the time, serialism, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
invented by the great Austrian composer Arnold Schoenberg. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
The idea is that you create melodies | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
through using all 12 of the semitones | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
that lie within an octave. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
Yeah? 12 semitones. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
And the rule is you can use all of those semitones, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
in fact you must use all of them, in whatever order you like, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
but you can't repeat one until you've had all of the others, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
and thus whole pieces of music were created. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
So, to give you an example, this is from a waltz in the 1920s | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
of Schoenberg which is purely serial. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Now, that strange, capricious little melody has all 12 semitones, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:42 | |
but in a very particular order, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
and then the joy of the piece is in how he can develop that row | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
of notes, but again, without ever repeating one | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
until he's had all of the others. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
But what made La Monte Young's Trio For Strings the first work of | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
minimalism was the length of the notes. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Nominally, it started with a 12-tone string trio | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
that La Monte Young wrote in 1958 | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
that was just the only thing that differentiated it from any other | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
12-tone chamber piece was | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
it was extremely long and the notes were held for a really long time. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
SINGLE NOTE PLAYS | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
It's an hour-long piece almost, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
I think there are about 88 notes in it. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
And the first sound lasts for four and a half minutes. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
And then there's a silence, and then it goes on to the next. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
The Trio For Strings was probably the first... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
..work in the history of music that really... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
..laid out long, sustained tones. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
The Trio is only an hour, but five or ten years ago, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
I made a version that was, I think, three hours | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
that was probably what I could have, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
should have done in the beginning... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
..but I was a very... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
You know, you're very constrained by the performance possibilities. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Like all music students in the 1950s, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
La Monte Young was taught that serialism | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
was THE compositional style of the day. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
But music such as Alban Berg's Chamber Concerto belonged | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
to an austere European past | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
and spoke little to a forward-looking, modern America. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
This music is probably past its peak, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
it's on the way down, you know. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
We're really talking about the endgame, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
though it carried on for another 40 years. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
No-one stopped them, and so they kept on going. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
But the brilliant music was pretty much composed by then. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
La Monte Young's Damascene moment occurred when he visited Darmstadt | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
in Germany in 1959 for a composition seminar | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
with Karlheinz Stockhausen. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
And it was there that he met the American composer John Cage - | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
the towering daddy of post-war American experimentalism. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
So under his tutelage, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
Young's compositions strayed further from pure notation and became much | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
more about conceptualism. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
How was it meeting John Cage, did that resonate for you? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Well, John was interested in me | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
because he was one of the first people who | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
was well-established who really promoted me. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
La Monte's Compositions 1960 are unusual, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
some of them even frankly unperformable. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
But each of them explores a certain supposition | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
about the nature of music and art and carries ideas to the extreme. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
One instructs, "Draw a straight line and follow it." | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
Another simply states that the piece is a little whirlpool, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
out in the middle of the ocean. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
Piece Number 2 from Compositions 1960 | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
is pretty remarkable. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Here are the instructions. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
"Build a fire in front of the audience, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
"preferably use wood, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
"although any combustibles may be used as necessary | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
"for starting the fire or controlling the kind of smoke. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
"The fire may be of any size, but it should not be the kind which is | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
"associated with another object such as a candle or a cigarette lighter. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
"The lights may be turned out. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
"After the fire is burning, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
"the builder may sit by and watch it for the duration of the composition. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
"However he, they, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
"should not sit between the fire and the audience | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
"in order that its members will be able to see and enjoy the fire." | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Young was influenced by conceptual art of the time - | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
groups like Fluxus, a collection of artists, poets, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and musicians whose shared impulse was to integrate life into art and | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
bring about social change. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
An artist such as La Monte Young, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
and he's very much involved with the Fluxus movement | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
about the idea of art of all kinds as performance, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
how an audience reacts to it when they're in the room with it | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
at any given time. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:25 | |
So, for example, the piece | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
where he builds a fire and the music is really... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
..the sounds and the spectacle of this fire happening at very close | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
quarters, all the fear that that engenders, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
all the worry for the equipment, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
cos he says that the fire has got to be close-miked, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
that is all part of it. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Those links with the visual art world are not accidental. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
It's because of the freedom of thought that's happening, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
and the Fluxus movement, and the connections that John Cage | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
had already established. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
There was a freedom of thought there which certainly the institutional | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
classical music culture simply didn't have. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
He's expanding the consciousness of everyone, right? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
The visual art world through sound, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
the classical music world, well, I mean, it just... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
..it blows that apart into a kind of cosmic harmony. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Of Young's Compositions 1960, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
it's Number 7 that has retrospectively become known | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
as having the most significance for minimalism. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
It consists simply of two notes to be played together and held | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
for a very long time. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Simply a B... | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
..and then an F sharp, which is exactly five notes above it. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
There's the F sharp. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
Those two notes together, what's known as a perfect fifth. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
And the one, by the way, inextricably linked, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
almost umbilically bound to the other. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
If I show you what I mean... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
If I was the place down the B silently so that | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
the string is ready to resonate, and I just strike the F sharp... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
..you can hear that resonating in the B, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
so the F sharp is in the B already, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
it's completely, inextricably linked. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
This is an endless open suggestion. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
That gave rise to a headline, I believe, in The New Yorker, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
which said, "When La Monte Young says, 'Take it from the top,' | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
"he means last Wednesday." | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
That's the kind of timescale we were talking about. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Long hypnotic tones. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
A wide sense of space. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
La Monte's work slowed the world down. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
Young's ever-evolving masterpiece is The Well-Tuned Piano, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
a work conceived in 1964, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
not yet finished or indeed published by the composer. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
A nod to Bach's Well-Tempered Keyboard, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
the piano is tuned to Young's own inventive tuning. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
He's still working on it now, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
and a performance of it will typically take | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
five or six hours out of your life. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Minimalism is a music that imposes its own listening mode | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
by the fact that events happen less frequently than you expect. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
So there is a slowed down progression of information, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
and the normal left-brain processes | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
with which we listen to pop music or classical music get | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
frustrated and have to give up. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
And if the music works, then it's all the more enjoyable | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
because you quit keeping track of time, you quit all of that logic, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
syntax stuff and you surrender to the music. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-How's that? -HE LAUGHS | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
And you're still working on The Well-tuned Piano, right? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-That piece is unfinished? -Yeah, I mean, I will play it if I'm given | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
the right circumstances, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
but you have to understand that it's not a joke. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
I began to realise that, the more I got into music, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
that music requires its own time. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
And, I was not suited to this world. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
But I am suited for the world I have created. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
La Monte's use of long tones was a world within itself | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
at the turn of the decade. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
But it would alter the shape of popular music in 1965 | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
when a student of his, viola player John Cale, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
took the technique into his own band, The Velvet Underground. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
# And what costume shall the poor girl wear? | 0:18:54 | 0:19:00 | |
# To all tomorrow's parties. # | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
Like minimalism, this was music that was based in the art world. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
The Velvet Underground started life | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
as the house band of Andy Warhol's Factory. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
When you listen to, like, you know, old classics, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
like say Velvet Underground, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
can you hear, can you sense that much-lauded connection | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
between, you know, La Monte Young influencing John Cale, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
and therefore influencing that music? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
It feels just like All Tomorrow's Parties or something, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
you've got that kind of viola rhythm... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
..droning away in the background. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I guess that that must have come from | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
him working with La Monte Young. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
And that's also probably what set off an audience | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
to get into minimalism as well because... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
..they've kind of absorbed it through The Velvet Underground | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
and stuff that came from there, you know. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Enter our second wizard of minimalism. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Terry Riley studied composition at the University of California in | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Berkeley with La Monte Young, but rather than writing for traditional | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
instruments, Terry experimented with cutting-edge technology. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
In particular, early synthesizers and tape recorders, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
pieces of kit that would play a crucial role | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
in the story of minimalism. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
You've heard his influence everywhere. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
From Pete Townsend's 1971 homage Baba O'Riley... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
MUSIC: Baba O'Riley by The Who | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
..to the opening notes of one of the '70s biggest albums - | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
MUSIC: Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
OK, Lucy, let's go. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
Terry is one of my all-time favourite composers, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and I'm off to visit him | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
on his ranch, five hours outside San Francisco. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Terry is kind of a mystic, he's a really... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
..open-minded, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
just beautiful musician | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
whose music feels like he's still sort of 50 years in the future, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
and the rest of us are still catching up. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
The first time I heard Terry Riley's music, I was really young. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
I mean, I was like sort of nine or ten. I was obsessed with the organ. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
An old groovy kind of hippie music teacher in my primary school had a | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
record called A Rainbow In Curved Air, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
which is the most insane, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
psychedelic, trippy, looping, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
organ overdubbing music, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
which Terry made, I think, so the story goes, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
in the course of one week in a studio in 1969. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
And I'll never forget being sat down by this cool primary school | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
hippie music teacher and being introduced to this music. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
But Riley's story began long before 1969. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
And the musical journey he took to A Rainbow In Curved Air | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
is what I want to talk to him about. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
Great to meet you last! | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
-Thanks for coming all this way. -Thank you. -Good to meet you too. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Thank you for having us. Really, really good to be here. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
-Would you like to take a look around? -Yeah. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
I went to school with La Monte Young, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
graduate school, which was a real big event in my life, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
meeting La Monte, and we would sit around and talk. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
And La Monte's main concern when he... | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
He didn't really have to have this concern cos it's already happening, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
but he wanted to be the most original composer ever. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
And I also felt like what La Monte was saying was something I felt for | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
myself, too, that I didn't want to just do music, I wanted to find | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
a way... | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
..to really get into who I was. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
So, this influenced you in that it made you want to slow down as well? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
Did you find yourself adopting some of the same? | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
It made me start hearing details in what I was doing like, say, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
even if it's a tape loop, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
how does the landscape of the tape loop change | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
every time it's replayed? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
We know it does if we sit there and listen to it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Can be, you know, a short loop, maybe one, two, three seconds. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
If you play that for an hour, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
you will continually hear new things in that landscape. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
And it's a psychological property of music. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
When did you first actually discover the possibility of tape? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
This was probably 1960, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
got a Wollensak tape recorder and I was working... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
La Monte and I were both working with Anna Halprin, this dancer, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
very visionary dancer that lives in Marin County, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
and she kind of made us her musical directors, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
so I was making pieces for her out of tape loops, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
and I only had a monophonic single machine, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
so I had to do sound-on-sound. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Obviously, very quickly, you build up tremendous amounts of noise, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
and that started becoming interesting to me. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
I see, so the noise is like hiss and other forms of distortion | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
-on the tape? -Yes, hiss and hum. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Yeah, limitation actually changed kind of a direction in my thinking, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
so it changed the way I thought about music. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
MUSIC: So What by Miles Davis | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
In the late '50s, the USA was in the grip of the sound of jazz, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
and the Miles Davis classic So What... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
..was the basis for one of Riley's early tape experiments. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Played by the West Coast jazz great Chet Baker. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Got to work in RTF, the French radio studios, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
so they arranged for me to work with Chet there, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
and Chet had a quintet, so then I asked them to all | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
record So What as a group, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
and then I asked them to record their solos separately. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
More or less the same as they had been playing in the full | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-ensemble? -Yeah, and then I took it upstairs and I put those together, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
I looped them and then I recombined it all. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
So, it was... The first thing, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
the ding for me was, "This can be | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
"an instrumental music process of writing." | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Music For The Gift, as the Baker experiment became known, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
was a crucial game-changer in minimalism's development. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
It pioneered the idea of electronic manipulation of time, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
a technique Riley would describe as time-lag accumulation. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
Electronic repetition was a key element in Riley's minimalist work. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
To understand what this means, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
I've enlisted the help of Portishead's Adrian Utley | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
and two tape machines for an old-school experiment. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
REPETITIVE, ECHOING TONES | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
So I don't really understand how this is working. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Um... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
It's like an internal looping or delay effect, isn't it? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
-Yeah. -But how does it actually work? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
It's got one reel on one tape machine, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
the tape goes like this along to the next tape machine | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
which is playing it, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
so that is our distance of delay. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
So record it here, wait, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
play. And that's what's happening. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
So with the regeneration of feeding it | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
back into the first recorder, you get this endless delay. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
The recording machine not only picks up the guitar being played, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
but also the sound from the machine playing it back, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
creating a seemingly endless echo. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
And that's why there's quite a lot of hiss on it as well because... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Yeah, it's building up hiss. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-It's building up hiss. -Yeah. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
Which is lovely, actually, it's sort of warm. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
I think we like that sound because it's not clinical. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Did Terry Riley call it the ghost in the machine? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Right. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
It's a build-up of atmosphere that you couldn't... | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
..get from an acoustic instrument. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
Effectively, what you've set up here, then, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
is what Terry Riley I think called his time-lag accumulation technique. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
Yeah, I guess that's it. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
The artistic climate in San Francisco in 1961 | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
was ringing with new ideas. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
A number of adventurous composers including Terry Riley, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Ramon Sender, Morton Subotnick and Pauline Oliveros decided | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
to create their own improvised electronic music studio - | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
the San Francisco Tape Music Center. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Now a dance studio, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
this unremarkable building on Divisadero Street | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
was once the nexus of a group of visionaries who dragged the past | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
into the future in front of an audience essentially of themselves. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
The Tape Music Center was a kind of countercultural little hall where... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
Nothing like any concert hall, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
it really was just kind of a small room. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
They had a radio station, KPFA, that | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
had the room right next door, and a lot of really interesting things | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
started happening there. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
If you've enjoyed electronic music's rich tapestry | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
since Kraftwerk emerged in the '70s... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
..then consider the pioneers who were exploring it | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
over a decade earlier. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
The Tape Music Center's gift to the future of minimalism was the first | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
complete synthesizer. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
And this is it, the original Buchla 100, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
commissioned by composer and Riley peer Morton Subotnick. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
It has become important partly | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
because it may have been the first | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
complete system that you would have that would do everything | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
you wanted it to do, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
not just something to add on to something else, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
which would make it the first total analogue synthesizer. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
The sequencer was originally conceptualised by me... | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
..to be a sequence of events. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
MELODIC BEEPS | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
While Riley and the San Fran Tape Center | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
were experimenting with electronics, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
in 1960 La Monte Young moved from California to New York | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
to pursue an ambitious vision - | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
a light and sound installation designed with his partner, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
the artist Marian Zazeela, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:01 | |
where minimal music could exist multi-dimensionally, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
24 hours a day. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
A Dream House, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
and it still exists to this day in the same Chamber Street loft. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
On my visit, I was immediately immersed in a striking collection of | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
audiovisual works created by long-time La Monte Young disciple | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
Jung Hee Choi. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
The concept of a Dream House | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
was invented by La Monte Young and Marian Zazeela in 1962, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and Jung Hee Choi is the only artist | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
that we have ever given long-term installations | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
in our Dream House. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
She is our senior disciple. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
she performs with us in all of our performances | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
and appears with us in all of our presentations. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
In the early '60s, Young's work was centred around drones. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
Sparse, sustained tones continuously sounded throughout most | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
or all of a piece. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
At first, it just sounded like one big buzz, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
or tinnitus amplified | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
or something, you know. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
But there were loads and loads of speakers all over the place, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
and it seems like they were all just doing different tones. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
They probably just create those tones all the time. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
But the amazing thing and the thing that I always will remember about it | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
was suddenly realising... You know, at first, "All right, OK, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
"there's a big buzz, whatevs, sounds like a giant bee, whatever." | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
But then when you start to walk through the room, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
so then you're nearer to one speaker than another, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
you get all these kind of weird wobbly patterns happening | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
actually inside your head because you've got the interference | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
of this note just a bit lower than this one, so you get that... | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
-RAPID VIBRATING NOISE -Then you turn your head a bit, and it goes... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
SLOWER VIBRATING NOISE | 0:33:54 | 0:33:55 | |
And so suddenly, it became the most fascinating thing | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
in the world because you think, | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
"Well, what if I put my head like this?" | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
And you could be like walking through and then, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
"Oh, that's good, that one." | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
So you become really active in it and explore this... | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
You could stay in that room forever | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
because just a tiny tilt of your head | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
creates a completely different experience. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
And you kind of look at other people in the room, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
but obviously they're not hearing what you're hearing at all. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
It's really... It was a unique thing and I keep meaning to... | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
I wish I could go back. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
What was so interesting about you putting forward the idea of | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
drone music in Western culture? | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
Drone music had been there since the beginning of time. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
But in the West not so much? | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Well, yes, it's true that I introduced it in a way | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
that really made waves, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
and I did it because I liked it, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
and I wanted the world to have that experience. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
You have to kind of not expect big events, and then you start wondering | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
whether you're just imagining things that are happening, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
and I think that's one of the interesting things | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
about La Monte Young's music. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
Is that you think nothing's happening, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
you think it's a static thing, but then suddenly... | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
..after maybe 20 minutes, you realise that | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
what you're listening to is totally different to what | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
you started off listening to, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
but you've got no recollection of how you got there. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
The idea of meditative, long-held notes was at the root | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
of minimalism, but it was not a new concept. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
Both La Monte and Terry studied Indian classical music, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
an ancient style rooted in drones. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
This is called a tanpura. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
It is essentially a drone instrument | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
which you play so that you can sing at a certain scale. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
It's very meditative. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
It obviously gives a sense of peacefulness, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
and there is a little austerity | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
which one associates with very high order of notes, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
high order of music. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
In its simplicity, there is a lot of depth. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
These composers studying Indian music was at a time | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
in the '60s when people | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
in the West were looking to Asia, to India, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
to other cultures for an alternative state of mind. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
We think of The Beatles, of course, most famously - | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
George Harrison studying sitar with Ravi Shankar, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
and them going off to study meditation in India. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
It was the thing at the time. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
HE HOLDS NOTE | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
In 1970, Young and Riley both became disciples of the great raga vocalist | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
Pandit Pran Nath | 0:37:06 | 0:37:07 | |
and would study with him for the next 26 years. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
We found ourselves attracted to him like iron filings to a magnet. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
It became essentially a force | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
that was much more powerful than any of us | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
or him in that we found ourselves drawn together. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
And he insisted that we become his disciples in order to study. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:36 | |
As well as drones, Indian music is based around the raga, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
a kind of microtonal scale. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
I felt like I was in kindergarten again | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
when I started studying Indian music because I had to learn a whole new | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
way of perceiving and listening. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
You and the note, the note and you. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
HE SINGS IN HINDI | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
I always practise early in the morning. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
First thing I do is do my ragas in the morning. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
And, you know, it kind of tunes me up for the whole day. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
It's a lot of work just to maintain the huge vocabulary of raga that I | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
learned over the many years with Pandit Pran Nath. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Ragas share minimalism's aversion to Western music narrative. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
Time often moves like an arrow in Western music. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
We imagine there's a beginning and end, and somebody, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
something or somebody, usually it's a composer, telling you the story, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
that's going from a beginning to an end. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:43 | |
Well, in the music of Indian classical music, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
and in La Monte Young's music, and Terry Riley's music especially, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
you don't have that arrow. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
You have instead an ocean of time in which you can be in, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
in which you feel that the universe operates according to cycles | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
as opposed to arrows. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
And to use a Western music to tap into that same energy that Indian | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
classical music, kind of, has always done, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
is an amazing act of imagination. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Riley and Young's original experiments in sound abstraction | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
and repetition have been shared amongst a close-knit community, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
but the crossover moment, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
the Big Bang, if you like, would come in 1964. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
The date was November 4th | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
and ground zero was the San Francisco Tape Music Center. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Riley's big idea was to translate techniques of repetition | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
and an immersive attitude to time | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
into a work for musicians rather than machines. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
The result was the ground-breaking In C. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
Let's talk about that first performance of In C, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
because obviously with that first performance, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
you launched a kind of musical revolution. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Believe me, I tried... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
..in this whole lifetime since In C to come up with another idea, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
that it could be that simple and inclusive. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
And I haven't been able to do it either. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
You know, I got back after working with Chet Baker, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
I thought, "I should write something new like this." | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
So I had this, you know, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
idea to write for a large group of instruments. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
But I was writing it all out, you know. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
And afterwards, at some point, I was thinking, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
"Boy, this is hard, you know, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
"because it doesn't have the freedom that I really want. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
"And I'm actually writing the structure out." | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Isn't it the most beautifully baffling and illogical thing? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
That here is a piece, called In C, that can take upwards of three | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
or four hours to perform, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and the entire score is contained on one sheet of paper. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
53 beautiful little melodic extracts, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
all basically in the key of C major. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
Every player is the master or mistress of their own destiny. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
They can choose how many times exactly they want to repeat | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Extract One before they move to Extract Two. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
They can choose to play at exactly the speed of the pulse | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
or they can choose to play at double the speed or quarter the speed. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
But, of course, the essence of the magic of the piece | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
is what happens when one extract is being played by one player | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
while another player is playing the same extract | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
but slightly out of phase with the first player. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Or a third player is playing the extract in front | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
of that same extract or the one just behind it. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Cos let's remember the rule of this piece is that however many members | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
there are in the ensemble, no-one is allowed to get more than three | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
extracts either ahead or behind anyone else. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
None of those present at the premiere | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
on November he 4th, 1964, had seen or heard anything like it. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
What was the impact on the audience that night? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Well, it was significant. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
I mean, people were really blown away. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
We all knew. I think everybody in the group knew that there was | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
something special happening that night. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
In C marked a moment when the world began to prick up its ears to this | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
whole movement. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
The memorably named critic of the San Francisco Sunday Chronicle | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Alfred Frankenstein came to the first performance of In C. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
And he was completely knocked for six by it. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
The headline is, "Music like none other on Earth." | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
And most brilliantly he says, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
"At times you feel you have never done anything all your life long but | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
"listen to this music, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
"and as if that is all there is or ever will be." | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
I think this piece is the Big Bang of minimalism. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Because, for a start, it's total democracy in action. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
It's not the conventional or traditional model | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
where the composer imposes | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
a very precise, tight and defined structure. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Exactly who plays what, and in what direction of travel, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
and in what order of play. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
This is absolutely about whoever's in any ensemble who decide to | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
play In C, each and every one of those musicians | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
making their own choices | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
within, of course, as we've said, very controlled parameters. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
So that there can't ever be two even remotely similar performances | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
of In C. Every single time it's performed, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
it is a world apart from any previous performance. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
So that in itself is like a kind of revolution | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
of the most extreme sort. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
It is an amazing piece. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
It's an amazing piece because it expresses all sorts of... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
You know, the sort of gestures | 0:45:39 | 0:45:40 | |
which became sort of quite central to minimalism. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
It's, you know, that sort of political aspect of it, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
in the sense that it's a kind of community project | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
and, you know, there's no leader, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
and all of these sorts of ideas were sort of encapsulated in that. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
There's a great liberation that this music gives musical culture. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
Not just in the way it sounds but the way it's made, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
so that you can have a roomful of people | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
and it's defined by the way they interact with each other, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
the journey through that piece. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:09 | |
As much as, really more than, what the composer tells them. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
It's also, by the way, I think, a democracy of listening because it | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
involves being hyperaware of one another as performers. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
And you're aware that your own contribution is, you know, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
maximally important, you have to be totally responsible for it. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
And yet, at the same time, you're also part and responsible | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
for this bigger ocean that's being created by the whole piece. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:37 | |
In C crystallised ideas of freedom three years before anyone heard the | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
words summer of love. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
Do you think that that had anything to do with location? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
The West Coast of America has always been a place where people are more | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
free to experiment, that there's less sense of judgment. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
I think you're right. It had to happen, not only in the West Coast, | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
but it had to happen in San Francisco. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
My whole history of spending a lot of time in San Francisco, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
there's a kind of Pacific Rim mentality that is connected to Asia, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:13 | |
whereas East Coast is connected to Europe. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
I think it had to happen where it happened. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
Terry Riley makes it very clear in his somewhat bold instructions | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
to the piece that the way that the piece finishes | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
is that everyone eventually in the ensemble arrives | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
at extract number 53. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
And then they end up kind of in unison on extract number 53 before | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
gradually disintegrating. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
So a musician will decide to cut out. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
Leaving four left. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
And then another one cuts out, and then a third, and a fourth. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
And eventually there's just one lonely player left. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
And then he or she cuts out. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
And then finally the pulse is switched off. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
With In C, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
an appreciation of minimalism began to spill beyond the fringes of the | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
Tape Music Center. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
Meanwhile, the new technologies the Center had been trialling were about | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
to break out, too. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
Coming into contact with this relatively new technology | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
of the tape recorder and the possibility of manipulating | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
recorded sound made... | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
..a whole new set of things possible | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
in music. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
I'm thinking particularly of Steve Reich, | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
for whom the technology of the tape recorder opened up | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
a whole new world of possibilities. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
28-year-old San Francisco inhabitant Steve Reich was a friend | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
of Terry Riley who'd been involved | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
in rehearsals for the premiere of In C. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
-TV NARRATOR: -The people of San Francisco dress well, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
walk briskly, and their friendliness, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
as much as the charm of their city, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
causes visitors to return again and again. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
In former days, Union Square was the heart of the city. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
It is still the centre of the downtown shopping area. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
In late '64, Reich heard about an extraordinary black preacher | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
who could be heard every Sunday in Union Square. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
He began to warn the people, he said, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
"After all, it's going to rain after all." | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
For 40 days and for 40 nights. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
And the people didn't believe him, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
and they began to laugh at him, and they began to mock him, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
and they began to say, "It ain't gonna rain!" | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
Brother Walter was the black Pentecostal preacher | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
who I recorded in Union Square in 1964, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
and in January '65 did the piece. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
He's talking about the end of the world. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
It's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain... | 0:50:28 | 0:50:29 | |
Now, this is 1964. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
The Cuban missile crisis was '62. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
I've mentioned this before, but it bears re-mentioning. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
And I think almost everybody in America, certainly myself, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
were thinking, you know, when that happened, you know, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
one false move and we're all so much radioactive dust. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
It's the kind of thing that stays with you. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
It's unsettling. So, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:52 | |
if you hear something about the end of the world, which is biblical and | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
which was contemporary, and which was musical. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
"It's gonna rain," bam-ba-da-dum, bam-ba-da-dum... | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
The pigeon drummer who happened to take-off at the moment he said that. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
The pigeons... | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
It's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
Playing two identical loops simultaneously on old tape recorders | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
that ran at slightly different speeds, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
Reich chanced upon the future. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
So, I made the two tape loops as perfectly as I could. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
In those days, you put tape into a splicing box, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
cut it with a razor blade, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:34 | |
and then put the two ends together, back in the block, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
and then put some splicing tape over it. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
And then I just pressed the go button. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
And I am just glued to this process, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
going... I'm thinking, "Wow, you know, what's going on here?" | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
Cos there's all kinds of irrational things and then | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
you get something that really makes musical sense. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
And then there's this sort of blur and then there's more. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
And then finally you're back together again. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
Wow, you know. That's a whole lot more interesting | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
than just, "It's gonna, it's gonna..." | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
It's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain... | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
And so that was really a chance procedure, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
even though you hadn't ordained it as such, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
it happened by chance to you. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
Well, I don't see things as ever by chance. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
I think there's no such thing as coincidence. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
The eternal's hand is at work... | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
But, in no causative way, I mean, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
in no way that I could care to discuss or whatnot. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
But I think that that viewpoint makes life a little bit more... | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
..liveable and optimistic and hopeful in an admittedly dark time. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:39 | |
It's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain after all! | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
It's Gonna Rain represented a technological breakthrough | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
for minimalism, known as phasing. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
To find out how it worked, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
I've decided to replicate Reich's experiment. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
Ade and I have recorded a long synth loop | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
on two rickety old tape machines. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
OK, Ade, so we've got that beautiful seven-beat sequence | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
identically recorded on both of these machines. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Yep. We've lined them up. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
-At the beginning of the sequence. -Yep. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
By finding the very beginning of it. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
All we need to do is push go. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
MACHINE PLAYS | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
Due to the analogue vagaries of old-school tech, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
the tape machines play back at slightly different speeds. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
We've started off with seven notes. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
I haven't got seven fingers on each hand but if I did, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
let's say this that each one of my fingers is a note. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
They start off together like that | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
and they slowly slip out of time, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
so one is falling behind the other one. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Or... | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
And so it's doing this. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
And this, when it's like that, you hear... | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
That's the duh-duh-duh-duh-duh kind of rhythm. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
And then they slip back into time | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
but their notes are not in sync with each other any more. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
So that's where we get our harmonies from. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
MACHINE CONTINUES PLAYING | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-It's awesome, isn't it? -It's absolutely amazing. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
-Yeah. -It gets so densely populated. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
When they're really forming across each other. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
-Yeah, it's not unmusical either. -No. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
For me this is another absolutely bull's-eye example of what | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
minimalism is about. That it is very busy, this. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
There's a heck of a lot of information | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
coming through our senses right now. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
And yet it's incredibly transcendent. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
That's something that I've heard from all of the composers within that genre, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
that there's a kind of meditative thing happening quite a lot. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
Even with its uptight, fairly frantic music, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
there's kind of very slow melodies happening underneath this thing. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
And it's quite spiritual. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
And the smell of the hot tapes. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
Ah... Sends me into a complete paroxysm of joy. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
Phasing, repetition with gradual change over time, | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
represented the start of minimalism's halcyon period. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
From the late '60s into the '70s, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
Steve Reich and new kid on the block Philip Glass | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
would preside over a high court of New York minimalism | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
and take it into the stratosphere. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
The composers who began it all, Terry Riley and La Monte Young, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:24 | |
have continued in their own vain, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
remaining to this day happy, experimental musicians. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
What do you think of the term minimalism and do you think it applies to you in any way? | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
Well, you know, minimalism, what does it mean? | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
I have my definition. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
-Go on. -You want it? | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
That which is created with a minimal... | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
A minimum of means. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
Minimalism is that which is created with a minimum of means. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
But what do you think it is? | 0:56:49 | 0:56:50 | |
What it does to me, it sounds like we're a bunch of simpletons, you know, minimalists. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
We can't be more complex thinkers, or even feelers, you know. | 0:56:55 | 0:57:01 | |
So it doesn't explain the spiritual aspects to the music at all. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
And it also doesn't approach explaining who we all are. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:11 | |
What the term minimalism does do, however, is help the listener. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
It's a gateway into a world of extraordinary transcendental music | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
of wildly differing styles | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
that could only have been born in the USA. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
We did all happen that you, er... | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
All being ourselves in the '60s, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
and we all used repetition to some degree. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
But then everybody went their own way. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
I haven't kept up. I mean, in all honesty, I haven't kept up with it. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
Because it's not my favourite music to listen to. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
Next time, I go to New York and explore how Steve Reich and Philip Glass | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
took minimalism into the mainstream and beyond. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 |