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In the UK, someone gets a parking ticket every three seconds.

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You can appeal against it.

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I will appeal, don't worry.

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I think it's disgusting.

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HORN BLARES

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With more cars than ever on our roads,

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the battle over parking has reached boiling point.

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Is there any questions you want to ask me now?

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How do you sleep at night?

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You people, you rob the general public.

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You're absolute vermin.

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Just take your heart out and just leave it at home.

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With space at a premium, councils need parking controls.

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We've got a board that says "car park full",

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and they drive round it.

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Engine's off. Door's open.

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She's got a baby and can't even park outside her own bloody house.

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I'm going to allow the appeal. You don't have to pay.

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Oh, I feel great.

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But for many, parking enforcement is a direct attack on motorists.

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It's just about the money.

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In my opinion, they are bloodsuckers.

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You've got no compassion doing the job that you're doing.

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And staff are in the firing line.

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"Come back round here and we'll shoot you"

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is the most common thing you'll hear up here.

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If you are civilised, you will not tell somebody that "I hate you".

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As they deal with...

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parking madness.

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You might as well just stand here and nick it off of people.

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When I say I hate them, I mean I hate them.

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There's so little free parking left in Britain's towns and cities,

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any streets that don't have restrictions become a battle ground.

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You can't park anywhere.

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I just live there

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and it's like it all the way up and down the road every day.

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Six o'clock in the morning they come, they slam the doors, the boot,

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and they don't care about anybody.

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And this is the police that are causing this problem?

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Yes. Yes. Yes.

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18 months ago, a new police station opened in West Bromwich.

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400 people work there, but there's only parking for visitors

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and senior members of staff.

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So officers park in the surrounding streets instead.

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The police said they can park how they like,

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as long as they leave enough room for a trolley.

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SIREN WAILS Go on! Yay!

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How about that?

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-Did you see that?

-I did.

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Literally madness round here.

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-It causes arguments as well, you know.

-It ain't made us very happy.

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When you've got somebody that works late, like my husband,

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and he comes in and there's nowhere to park.

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Joan and Alan have lived in the area for 28 years.

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-It used to be a nice place to live. It's exhausting.

-It pulls you down.

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It drags you down.

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It makes you feel as if you don't want to live here.

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No, I've been talking to the wife about selling my house

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and moving elsewhere.

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The police are not doing anything illegal by parking in the area,

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but that doesn't help the residents.

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Keeping the residents happy in this dispute

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is the job of Sandwell Council's parking manager, Kira Fleck.

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It is like when you have young children,

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that's the only analogy I can use.

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You draw boundaries with them, you tell them what they can do,

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they can't do, and everybody then exists in harmony in a family.

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She's invited locals to a meeting to gauge opinion

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on a residents' parking scheme.

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Kira from Sandwell Council. Have a seat. Make yourself comfortable.

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-It's all right, I'll stand.

-OK?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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If you sit down, you fall asleep - they might think I'm dead.

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Hello. My name is Kira, I'm from the council.

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-Hi, sir. Hello.

-Not very happy.

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Don't be frightened.

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Oh, I ain't frightened.

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We have identified the problem...

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-And we've...

-You've identified it, now what is it?

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The problem is people parking all day long

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and you can't park in the vicinity.

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-Ah, know what your actual problem is?

-What?

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-You've took the parking spaces off us...

-Your design.

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The way you've designed West Bromwich,

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that's where your problem is.

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You see, you're greedy.

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I'm not going to get into the politics of it.

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-All I'm here today...

-That's the problem.

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-It IS the politics.

-No, no, let me just talk about something...

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Undaunted, Kira presses on.

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We're ready to kick. Hi.

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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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Morning.

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Lovely morning today.

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The police were invited to this meeting

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and they felt that the residents may feel intimidated

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by the police being here.

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You know what intimidation is?

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When they're coming out at four o'clock in the morning

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-putting their sirens on.

-Yeah.

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Our biggest problem is the police officers parking outside our homes.

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-OK...

-You don't... You don't face this problem.

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This might be a harder sell than Kira was expecting.

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Councils can't just slap in new parking restrictions

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wherever they want.

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They have to follow set procedures for the regulations to be legal.

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Devon resident Peter Harry

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believes his local council don't always bother.

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Devon County Council are fleecing the motorists

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of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds.

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Peter drives the length and breadth of Devon,

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hunting for dodgy restrictions

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to help fellow motorists fight parking fines.

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People think that they can't park in a disabled bay

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because of the word "disabled" on the road.

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It means nothing unless there's an upright plate

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saying it's disabled parking only,

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and there is a traffic order attached to it.

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There's nothing here to say it's a disabled bay.

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No crime, no fine.

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I don't like to call myself a campaigner,

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I like to call myself an armchair auditor.

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That's what David Cameron and Eric Pickles...

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..has urged everybody to be.

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Peter's latest line of investigation

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is that local civil enforcement officers, or CEOs,

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are wearing the wrong uniforms.

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Today he's out to capture one on camera.

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This is a favourite spot, up around here.

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They hang around quite a bit.

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He was just stood there just now,

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and now he's disappeared and I can't see him.

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Where did you see him then?

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Up there where those cars are?

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-I blinked and he disappeared.

-Yeah?

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The sign there says 30 minutes parking only,

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no return within one hour.

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So he must have been here within the hour

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to place a ticket on that vehicle.

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Peter finally has a CEO in his sights.

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Have you got my permission to take a photograph, sir?

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-I don't need it.

-Yes, you do, sir.

-No, I don't.

-Yes, you do.

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-Public... Public place.

-Yeah, but I'm not a public person.

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He's not enforcing legally,

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because he should be displaying on his tunic

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that he's enforcing for Devon County Council.

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But he's displaying on his tunic

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that he's enforcing for Mid Devon District Council.

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Isn't that almost kind of small beans, though?

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No, no, no, it's the law.

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The law says that they should display

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the name of the enforcing authority.

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If Peter's right,

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then every penalty charge notice the CEO's issued is invalid.

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-Well, you learn something new every day.

-There you are.

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This is one case where I think it ought to go to appeal, really.

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"You learn something every day," he said, didn't he?

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20,000 motorists a year bring their battles over parking tickets

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to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

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-That's the vehicle in question, yeah?

-Yes.

-That's our vehicle.

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We have a fixed machine, David, that's a high-pressure water jetter.

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You're parking as close as possible to the drain, is that right?

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-Yeah, exactly, yeah.

-What's the length of the hose?

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This is about people and human life.

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And, you know, everybody's lives are different

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and the circumstances that happen are completely different.

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I've been doing it since 1993,

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when I was the first ever adjudicator.

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Motorists and councils can both attend hearings,

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but a lot of the time only the drivers turn up.

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-Good morning!

-Do sit down.

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-How are you?

-I'm fine, thank you.

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The council won't attend, I don't think,

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because in these days of austerity,

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they're not allowed to buy railway tickets any more, I don't think.

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My wife was going to come, but she feels a bit emotional about it,

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so I said I would come along and put our case.

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David Hutt and his wife were having their drive cleaned,

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so Mrs Hutt moved the car off the drive

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and parked on a single yellow line in their street.

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It's regular that we move cars off the drive and on to the side

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and then back again.

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David believes the council should show leniency

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because his wife left a note explaining she was a resident.

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Can you see on the front

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-that there is...

-Yes.

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That's a note that she put on.

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Well, he probably couldn't read it.

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No, well, sorry, the point is it had been raining

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-so heavily that got washed out.

-She put it on the outside?

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She put that on the outside and it got washed out.

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Why wouldn't she put it on the inside?

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Lord knows.

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Had somebody left the car there first and she couldn't get into it?

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No.

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In the letter of the law,

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you shouldn't park during the restriction period.

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But the law is a blunt instrument

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and I would just be asking that the council reconsider

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on the basis that we are residents

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and the restriction is not there to punish the residents,

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it's more just to deter, if you like, the commuting traffic.

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I'm not convinced that they would find that compelling,

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so I think that we're all in the same boat here

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and we're going to have to just come under the cosh

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of the blunt instrument

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-and I'm going to have to turn down your appeal, I'm afraid.

-OK.

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-All right.

-Thank you so much.

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-I'm not allowed to shake your hand, am I?

-No. But don't worry.

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Don't worry. Great stuff.

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David will now have to cough up the original fine of £70.

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When drivers don't pay PCNs and ignore council reminder letters,

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eventually the bailiffs come calling.

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Golf. Got a Golf.

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They use automatic number plate recognition cameras

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to spot vehicles with outstanding fines on them.

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We're bailiffs,

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and we're here for nonpayment of a parking fine on this vehicle.

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Debbie works for Whyte & Co bailiffs.

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She specialises in recovering parking fines.

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At the moment, the outstanding debt is £517.84.

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We won't be able to let your vehicle go unless we have a payment made.

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This morning, she's in Croydon on a roadside operation,

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working alongside husband Steve and the local police.

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Hermione?

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Oh, that's mum.

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Your mum, right, OK.

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The car's been pulled over today for the nonpayment of a parking fine.

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It's £517.84.

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Jesus.

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And we need to have a payment today.

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-What, the full payment?

-Yeah.

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The car belongs to the driver's mother,

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but he'll need to pay up if he wants to go on his way.

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Well, I haven't got the money on me right now.

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Is there anyone who can pay it online for you?

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Because we can't let you go unless we get the payment.

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They parked on zigzags, whoever was driving the vehicle,

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they were parked on zigzags, like, a pedestrian crossing,

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so they deserve to get a parking ticket.

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But a zigzag's a zigzag, innit, at the end of the day.

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Obviously, he's saying they had difficulties paying.

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Just who wants to pay and who can't or won't pay is the difference.

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You haven't even proved to me that I was parked on a zigzag.

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I mean, where is it?

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It just says you were parked on a zigzag crossing.

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Yeah.

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And that's all the information I've got.

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-Where? When?

-Well, it will be in Croydon.

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-Oh, in January?

-Yeah, in January.

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That's, like, eight months ago.

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Yeah, it takes about six...minimum six months to come to bailiff stage.

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Well, I haven't got the money now.

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How much can you pay today?

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I haven't got any money on me, I'm broke.

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I might have a pound, I think.

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Well, you can't pay by card, debit card or credit card?

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No.

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-You want what I haven't got.

-Well, the problem is, if we...

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if the bailiffs have to go back to your mum's address,

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they would be looking to do a house removal of your mum's goods.

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I haven't got the money to pay 'em!

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They say that I parked on a zigzag, which I don't do,

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they can't prove any evidence or anything like that,

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they've just got paperwork from Bromley or Croydon Council.

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Meanwhile, Steve has had enough of waiting for the driver to pay up.

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What are you doing?

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-Is this yours, sir?

-Yeah.

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If you ain't paying it, sir,

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we're looking for some goods to seize, sir,

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to cover the debts.

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Oh, my goodness. You're going to seize my goods?!

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It's all rubbish in there, really.

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Well, you can just pay for it. It'll be sorted, sir.

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I ain't got the money. I would pay it.

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If you try a credit card with the lady, or a debit card,

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if it doesn't go through, I'll believe you, sir, OK?

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Because you must know that things we're told is unbelievable.

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-OK, OK, I'll give you...

-Is that fair enough?

-Yeah.

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Come on, then.

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-And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, then.

-OK.

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The gentleman's going to try his cards -

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if they don't go through,

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we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt

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-and then he's going to have to...

-Sort it out.

-..sort it out.

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Look at that, one in me pocket. Can't be bad.

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Is it a debit card, sir?

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Yeah. Nothing's on them.

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-We'll try 'em and we're all happy, then.

-OK.

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Right, just pop your pin in, please, and the green button.

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Where was you going, anywhere nice?

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I'm just taking the missus to work.

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Not authorised.

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Because there's nothing on there.

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There might be £6, if there's anything.

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When drivers fail to pay up,

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the bailiffs would normally remove the car.

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But this is a mobility vehicle,

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so Debbie and Steve decide to let them go.

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Poor old Mum, she's 83, and I drive her around and stuff

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and, you know...

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The bailiff company who has got the original warrant

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will have to go to their house and do a house removal

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if that's what they want to do.

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That's the price of living in this country.

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Everybody wants your money, whether you've got it or not, find it.

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What can I say?

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This is not a cop out or anything.

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I can't answer on behalf of the police. I will take...

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In West Bromwich, residents are still voicing their opinions

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on what to do about police officers' cars blocking up their streets.

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We have to find another way of dealing with it.

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-Can I give you a suggestion?

-Can I continue now?

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No, no, I'm going to... In a minute.

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-I'm not trying to keep it down...

-Keep it down? This is a good meeting.

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-It's getting...

-I'm enjoying it.

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What Kira really wants to do

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is convince them to go for residents' parking,

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but the scheme will cost locals £20 per permit.

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I don't think we should have to pay for parking...

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-residents' parking fees.

-No.

-£25, £20.

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If you've got three people in your house with cars

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and you're paying all that much money out

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and you're paying your poll tax as well... I don't think so!

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Resident schemes are not here

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to jeopardise or inconvenience residents.

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They are here to assist you.

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Are they for life?

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-They're for one year from the date.

-One year?!

-One year.

-You're joking.

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So if people have this conception that, "I own this house,

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"therefore the space outside my house is my own," that is wrong.

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If you don't want a scheme, that's fine.

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All you need to do is return the questionnaires

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saying you don't want the scheme.

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These questionnaires - we haven't received one.

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-You haven't received one?

-No.

-Are you in that catchment area, sir?

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In Richard Street West, just round the back here.

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OK, sir. I have got some questionnaires here.

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At the end of the day, I want to do something.

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The council wants to do...

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We know you have got an issue here, and we've got to start somewhere.

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Questionnaires?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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It is exhausting, but in a nice way.

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You feel that you have...

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The day has been long, there has been intense passions shown.

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I think it's a racket, my friend.

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It's another way of making money out of people.

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They should have took that into consideration

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when they was building the police station.

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They knew they was going to be wanting car parks.

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So, in other words, they've blocked everybody else's street up.

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At the roadside operation in Croydon,

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a mini-cab driver has been pulled over

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for nonpayment of a parking fine.

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Unless you cough up nearly £600, you lose your car,

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you lose your work, you'll probably end up losing your home,

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and you can even lose your family.

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Bloody... It's a nightmare.

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He says he's got someone coming down

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to actually make the payment on his behalf,

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so at least his car's not going to be removed,

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and he can then go on his way.

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When the driver's father-in-law does turn up,

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he hasn't brought any money.

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Instead, he takes the shopping home.

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He's going up to Shirley.

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-Oh, so not long. About, what?

-Not long, about half an hour.

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-Half hour.

-Yeah.

-OK.

-See you soon.

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He's taken my shopping home and see if he can help me with the payment.

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-He's

-BLEEP

-us off.

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-Don't be silly.

-He ain't even doing it.

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-I'm telling you. He'll

-BLEEP

-us off.

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Well, why don't you just get him to pay online?

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Steve believes that it seems a bit of a story

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that the man's going to take his shopping home

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and then come back down with a card.

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It seems a little bit strange.

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You're a bit of a double act, aren't you, you two?

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Yeah, we do try!

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But we don't work together all the time, though.

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No, just on these type of...

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I couldn't work with Steve, live with him and work with him.

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He's going to try to make the payment.

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-He's going to TRY to make payment?

-Yeah.

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-He's getting my credit card.

-He's going to try to make the payment,

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-or he's going to make the payment?

-We're going to make the payment.

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You're going to make the payment. You've got half an hour, sir.

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If it ain't in time, you're going to lose the vehicle.

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They want to get it as quickly as they can.

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There's no giving chance.

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There's no, you know, understanding or giving anybody a chance.

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Before councils were allowed to manage their own parking enforcement,

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it was a gentler time, when traffic wardens,

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then part of the police force, patrolled our streets.

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I wore a tie, and I chose to wear a tie.

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The police ladies always liked to wear, like, a cravat.

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Until she retired five years ago,

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Helen Turner was the only traffic warden in Selby in North Yorkshire.

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I wondered if I would take to it,

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because after I gave my first ticket I nearly burst into tears

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because he wasn't very happy.

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But I thought, "Well, I've got myself into this, I've got to keep going."

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If somebody had said to me, "Look, I'm dashing in for a prescription,

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"it's my little boy, I've just been to the doctor's,"

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I'd say, "Be quick."

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You've got to have a bit of leeway, give and take with them all.

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But the give and take seemed to stop in Selby

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when North Yorkshire County Council took over the job in June this year.

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We've got these traffic wardens come from Harrogate

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that are just acting with force, like nobody ever has done before.

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The minute anybody parks at the back, they're diving on them,

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it's ridiculous.

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I used to just nip up behind Wetherells

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and pull up round there, you see, and nip in to the bank and nip out again.

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I got fined - was it £30?

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£60.

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You normally see them about every hour.

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They walk up this way and then they walk back down

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and then they reappear.

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Certainly every couple of hours.

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Richard Schofield owns a gift shop on the high street.

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Even before the new civil enforcement officers arrived,

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the town's retailers were struggling.

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I've become a little bit of an island, really,

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in that I'm stuck between two empty shops.

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We've got the Booze Buster's and the Blockbuster's both closed.

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And then I've got two charity shops.

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I've been in the town for 12 years.

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Certainly, we bought it at a difficult time,

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and things seem to have got worse.

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The internet's become much more popular.

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People don't even leave home now.

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And we've got new parking wardens come from Harrogate recently

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and the chances are if they're five minutes late to their car, now,

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they're going to get a £60 fine.

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I think once a customer's had a £60 fine,

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they ain't coming back here any more.

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I know they did an old gentleman near our shop.

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He had a blue badge, and they did him

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because he hadn't set the time properly.

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-Recently?

-About three weeks ago on a Saturday.

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-That's these new guys.

-£70-odd it cost him.

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And he came in the shop asking what he could do,

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because he didn't understand - he was in his 80s.

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People I've spoke to in the shop, they're not given a minute,

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whereas before I think the police -

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and certainly when Helen was doing it,

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she understood that the traders, you know,

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people needed to stop there and come and get a card

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and they liked to have a chat.

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They were just a bit more understanding,

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they were a friend to the town.

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I had a delivery man the other day, works for himself,

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he said, "I'm never coming back to your town."

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How am I going to get my parcels?

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In Central London, racking up parking fines

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is an occupational hazard for delivery drivers.

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I've got a collection of tickets,

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yeah, from all over the place.

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How many do you get?

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I would say two a week, for sure.

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Vincenzo Oliveri owns two Italian restaurants in the West End.

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He goes backwards and forwards in his van throughout the day

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picking up supplies.

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All this road, there are double yellow lines.

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If the traffic warden comes here, you've got a ticket.

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They don't let you function properly.

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The rent is very high, the rates they are very high.

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The labour is very high in Central London.

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If you add also the tickets that you get nearly every day,

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somebody's got to pay for it.

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One of Vincenzo's restaurants

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is in a street where no loading is allowed whatsoever.

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Not very convenient for essential deliveries.

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I'm checking just in case, because as soon as they come, we have to run.

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Fernando... HE SPEAKS ITALIAN

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About ten people, they have to help me.

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Roberto.

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Now it's started to rain as well.

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That's what we need!

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As soon as they come here... Actually, he's coming.

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Is he there?

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There's somebody with a yellow...

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It's very stressful, very stressful.

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It's incredible.

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I will have a heart attack soon.

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With the weekly bill for parking fines

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now running into tens of thousands for freight companies,

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the body that represents them has set up a dedicated service

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to deal with parking tickets on behalf of members.

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The top four are cancellations, so it's like, "Yes!"

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Mandy Carey's full-time job

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is processing and appealing parking tickets.

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The vehicle is parked on a single yellow line,

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there is no kerb lip there at all.

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Once I've seen something like that,

0:23:450:23:47

I would then go on to Google Street View.

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So, as you can see,

0:23:510:23:52

there is no indication of time plates of restrictions or anything at all.

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-It's a bit like being an investigator, isn't it?

-It is.

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Some jobs get a bit mundane, don't they? But this one, it's not,

0:24:000:24:03

it's exciting.

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Access to the vehicle's tracking technology

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helps make the case watertight.

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I've also attached the driver's trip sheet,

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and it indicates doors opening and closing,

0:24:170:24:21

so there is a delivery being made.

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Hopefully, we should get a letter back

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saying that that one will be cancelled.

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Ironically, parking fines don't lead to huge profits for councils.

0:24:300:24:35

The cost of enforcement

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often cancels out the income from the fines.

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They do make money from motorists who pay to park.

0:24:400:24:43

Westminster Council have realised that it's better for them

0:24:450:24:48

and better for motorists

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if they stop issuing so many tickets.

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There is a waiting restriction.

0:24:520:24:54

-Yes.

-Thank you.

0:24:540:24:55

So they're taking a more human approach to parking enforcement.

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And how long will that take, sir?

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Say hello to the traffic marshals.

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The hat, flat hat - yes, I do like it. It is stylish.

0:25:050:25:10

It does look friendlier.

0:25:100:25:12

Hello.

0:25:120:25:14

This bay is suspended...

0:25:140:25:15

..so you're not allowed to park here.

0:25:170:25:19

'Do you ever issue tickets?'

0:25:190:25:21

Of course, that would be the last resort.

0:25:210:25:24

Like the way I told her to move now, if she refused to move,

0:25:240:25:28

then it's a case it will be the last resort for me.

0:25:280:25:31

Thank you.

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The marshals currently operate in a small area around Leicester Square.

0:25:330:25:38

They ticket cars at roughly half the rate of normal CEOs.

0:25:380:25:42

Instead, they want to encourage drivers to pay for parking.

0:25:420:25:46

You have to pay by phone if you're going to park there, yeah?

0:25:460:25:49

-Have you paid some money today?

-Yes.

0:25:490:25:51

We always pay. We are chauffeurs, we have to pay.

0:25:510:25:54

You know, he told me that he had made payment.

0:25:560:25:58

And he hasn't.

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So when I check, he hasn't made payment.

0:25:590:26:01

-Are you just making it now?

-Yes.

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OK.

0:26:040:26:06

Because it's not coming up - so you're just making it now.

0:26:060:26:09

Not all drivers quite understand what is required of them.

0:26:090:26:13

Afternoon, sir.

0:26:130:26:15

How are you doing, are you good?

0:26:150:26:16

Oh, yeah, yeah.

0:26:160:26:18

He's a regular. We do see the gentleman around here.

0:26:180:26:23

Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:26:240:26:25

He's driving round the corner,

0:26:250:26:26

isn't he just adding to the traffic out on other roads?

0:26:260:26:30

Well...possibly.

0:26:300:26:33

Possibly.

0:26:330:26:34

-But, again, drivers do need to find...

-Here he is again!

0:26:340:26:39

We get a lot of deliveries here

0:26:450:26:47

and we have to get people to back in,

0:26:470:26:49

and they're always just sitting there.

0:26:490:26:51

They obviously haven't got a parking permit or nothing,

0:26:510:26:54

so they don't get ticketed, they just drive round the corner and...

0:26:540:26:57

Know what I mean? That's a problem for us.

0:26:570:26:59

Is that our friend again over there?

0:27:000:27:02

Yes. Yes.

0:27:020:27:05

That's our friend again.

0:27:050:27:07

-Hello again, sir.

-How are you doing, man?

0:27:070:27:09

-How are you doing, are you good?

-I'm very good.

0:27:090:27:11

Please...

0:27:110:27:13

..try and get yourself in a pay by phone bay or something

0:27:140:27:16

-and make payment, please.

-Sorry?

0:27:160:27:18

-Try and get yourself in a pay by phone bay please, sir.

-All right.

0:27:180:27:21

Thank you, sir.

0:27:210:27:23

Since he complied, there's no need to issue him a PCN.

0:27:230:27:26

It's the polite thing to do.

0:27:260:27:28

Half an hour later, this driver still isn't getting the message.

0:27:310:27:34

You're chasing me around, innit?

0:27:390:27:40

We're just walking around and we keep on bumping into you.

0:27:400:27:43

Bailiffs Debbie and Steve

0:27:460:27:47

have been on this roadside job in Croydon for four hours.

0:27:470:27:50

How long have you been married, you two?

0:27:500:27:52

Two years.

0:27:520:27:54

Been together 18, got married two and a half years ago.

0:27:540:27:57

We met at a friend's hairdressing salon.

0:27:580:28:01

I felt sorry for her.

0:28:030:28:05

Earlier today, they pulled over a mini-cab driver

0:28:060:28:09

who owes £547 for an unpaid fine.

0:28:090:28:13

How do you justify

0:28:140:28:16

the amount of levy you put on the outstanding balance?

0:28:160:28:21

All our costs are reasonable, they're all set by the council.

0:28:210:28:24

But your cost, it outweighs,

0:28:240:28:26

literally outweighs, by far, what the outstanding balance is.

0:28:260:28:30

Well, if you took that off, you took the VAT off,

0:28:300:28:32

you've got £288.20 is our cost.

0:28:320:28:36

What about the VAT, why would you charge anybody VAT?

0:28:360:28:39

Because we're a company.

0:28:390:28:41

-Is he paying, or what?

-Yeah, he's paying now, I think.

0:28:420:28:45

The mini-cab driver's father-in-law has returned -

0:28:450:28:48

this time with a credit card in hand.

0:28:480:28:51

-Is it a debit card or credit card, sir?

-Credit card.

0:28:520:28:54

-Credit card.

-Will there be any...

-A surcharge on the credit card?

0:28:540:28:57

Yes, a 3% surcharge.

0:28:570:28:59

Have you got a calculator on you?

0:28:590:29:02

Apparently, there's a 3% surcharge on the card,

0:29:030:29:06

so we might have to go into the local branch,

0:29:060:29:10

transfer the money over to a debit card,

0:29:100:29:14

which is going to cost me nothing, and then make the payment that way.

0:29:140:29:18

Excuse me, can I quickly go down to the NatWest Bank,

0:29:180:29:23

which is literally at the end of that road,

0:29:230:29:25

so I won't have to pay a 3% surcharge?

0:29:250:29:28

-How long is it going to take you, sir?

-End of that road.

0:29:300:29:32

If you want to believe me or not.

0:29:320:29:34

I don't know where the end of that road is, sir.

0:29:340:29:36

West Croydon is just there, so...yeah?

0:29:360:29:39

If the tow truck gets here,

0:29:390:29:40

the vehicle will be put on the tow truck.

0:29:400:29:42

Increasing numbers of PCNs

0:29:510:29:53

never come into contact with car windscreens -

0:29:530:29:56

they're issued by CCTV and come through the post.

0:29:560:29:59

When the ticket came through the door, I was flabbergasted,

0:30:010:30:03

I thought, "What's this?"

0:30:030:30:05

I was trying to think, somebody must have made a mistake here.

0:30:050:30:08

Bristol resident Lexington Burke

0:30:080:30:10

was issued a PCN on a street well-known for its Caribbean food.

0:30:100:30:15

Jamaican mangoes here.

0:30:150:30:17

Oh, my gosh, this is really nice - a good smell on that one!

0:30:170:30:21

He'd driven his disabled aunt to the street

0:30:210:30:24

to visit her favourite West Indian restaurant.

0:30:240:30:27

She loves to come here in order to buy the food from here,

0:30:270:30:30

and knows the person who cooks the meals very well.

0:30:300:30:33

She's very sick and her taste changes,

0:30:330:30:36

but she usually goes for something like jerk chicken

0:30:360:30:38

or she may want to have curry goat.

0:30:380:30:42

It's easier to talk about what's right about her

0:30:420:30:44

than what's wrong with her.

0:30:440:30:46

She has dialysis three times per week, angina,

0:30:460:30:48

had how many heart attacks? I've lost count.

0:30:480:30:51

His aunt is a blue badge holder,

0:30:510:30:53

but the disabled bay outside the restaurant was already taken.

0:30:530:30:57

On the day itself, I wasn't parked in the actual disabled bay,

0:30:570:31:00

I was parked...

0:31:000:31:01

..the next position after the disabled parking,

0:31:030:31:06

which is here where this Golf is parked.

0:31:060:31:08

In front of me here is a sign that isn't easy to understand,

0:31:090:31:14

so I relied on what the disabled badge holder sign told me.

0:31:140:31:18

I thought I had three hours parking here and parked accordingly.

0:31:180:31:22

But you weren't actually parked in a disabled bay?

0:31:220:31:24

I wasn't in the disabled bay,

0:31:240:31:25

but I parked in the nearest spot to it and put the badge out.

0:31:250:31:30

While he was parked there, a CCTV car caught him on camera.

0:31:300:31:34

There he is. Oh, look at that!

0:31:340:31:37

And he's just driven by.

0:31:370:31:39

That is amazing! I cannot believe he's here again.

0:31:390:31:43

Lex is taking his case to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

0:31:450:31:49

Increasing numbers of the appeals now happen over the telephone.

0:31:490:31:54

I'm OK. There is obviously a little bit of nerves.

0:31:540:31:58

Never done this before.

0:31:580:32:00

PHONE RINGS

0:32:000:32:01

Phone hearings make it easier for councils and motorists to take part.

0:32:010:32:06

Hello.

0:32:060:32:07

Hello, gentlemen.

0:32:070:32:08

-Good morning.

-Yes, good morning.

0:32:080:32:10

Mr James, are you there?

0:32:100:32:12

Yes, I am.

0:32:120:32:13

Just to start.

0:32:130:32:15

This was a ticket that was sent to you through the post,

0:32:150:32:18

-wasn't it, Mr Burke?

-Correct, yes.

0:32:180:32:20

Did you know what the regulations were in this bay?

0:32:200:32:23

-Did you understand?

-No.

0:32:230:32:25

I will say to you that I am very much confused

0:32:250:32:28

and a bit perplexed to understand how to interpret these.

0:32:280:32:32

It's part of my argument, my case -

0:32:320:32:34

I feel that the city council is not being very user friendly.

0:32:340:32:37

So you were... Were you shopping for the household, then, on that day?

0:32:370:32:41

I sometimes do that for the household

0:32:410:32:43

and take the household with me, also.

0:32:430:32:45

Do you have a disability yourself, Mr Burke?

0:32:450:32:48

Well, not that is registered per se.

0:32:480:32:52

Right, so you yourself do not have a blue badge?

0:32:520:32:55

-No, I don't.

-But you...

-No, I don't.

0:32:550:32:58

-But you carry around your mother and your auntie.

-My auntie.

0:32:580:33:02

Well, they have limited mobility.

0:33:020:33:04

They can't carry much weight at all.

0:33:040:33:06

So I've got a choice, if I can find parking,

0:33:060:33:09

I can go with them to the shops

0:33:090:33:11

so I can be the load bearer of whatever they shop for, yes?

0:33:110:33:14

You didn't realise that there was two different bays there?

0:33:140:33:18

I would have parked exactly where the black vehicle is,

0:33:190:33:22

if I may say so, but it was taken.

0:33:220:33:25

I'm a disabled badge holder

0:33:250:33:26

so I thought, "OK, I'm going to park to the nearest proximity

0:33:260:33:29

"and that should cover me," I thought.

0:33:290:33:31

But with great respect, Mr Burke,

0:33:310:33:33

you aren't a disabled badge holder, are you?

0:33:330:33:35

It's your aunt and your mother.

0:33:350:33:37

No, no, sorry, I correct myself.

0:33:370:33:38

When I say I'm a disabled badge holder,

0:33:380:33:40

I'm driving for disabled individuals.

0:33:400:33:43

In fact, the blue badge didn't mean Lex could park there.

0:33:440:33:48

So will his argument that the signs were confusing hold any sway?

0:33:480:33:52

Mr James, I can't read the sign in the evidence that you've supplied.

0:33:520:33:58

The comment just below it on the page says what the restrictions are.

0:33:580:34:02

Where is that sign?

0:34:020:34:03

Because I can't see that sign in the video footage.

0:34:030:34:07

If you scroll back the footage

0:34:070:34:10

to just before where you can see the black car,

0:34:100:34:13

if you look on the left of Mr Lewington's car,

0:34:130:34:16

you can see the sign at the top of the picture.

0:34:160:34:19

Caroline's not satisfied that the video or the still photographs

0:34:190:34:23

prove that the restriction was properly signed.

0:34:230:34:26

I appreciate they couldn't have parked where there's a loading ban,

0:34:260:34:29

but it may not have been clear to them at the time.

0:34:290:34:31

I do not have these very clear additional pictures

0:34:310:34:35

of the signing at this complicated site.

0:34:350:34:38

So, Mr Burke, I'm going to allow your appeal on this occasion.

0:34:380:34:42

-So thank you very much, gentlemen.

-Thank you.

0:34:420:34:44

OK, bye.

0:34:440:34:46

I've won.

0:34:460:34:48

My appeal has been upheld in this instance.

0:34:480:34:51

-Guess what?

-Yeah?

0:34:510:34:53

I won!

0:34:530:34:55

-The tribunal has found in my favour.

-Thank God.

0:34:550:34:57

-You prayed.

-I did.

0:34:570:34:59

That went as most of them do go, they hang on bits of evidence.

0:34:590:35:04

And in this case I happen to agree with the chief adjudicator

0:35:040:35:08

that the picture we provided is not that clear.

0:35:080:35:11

Amazing, amazing, amazing.

0:35:110:35:13

It needs to happen, though.

0:35:130:35:15

I can only hope other people have the courage, you know,

0:35:150:35:18

of their conviction to appeal.

0:35:180:35:21

In West Bromwich, the battle is still raging

0:35:240:35:26

for parking spaces on the streets around the new police station.

0:35:260:35:31

There's a lady's dropped kerb here.

0:35:310:35:33

Now, there was somebody parked across it

0:35:330:35:35

and we fetched the police officers out,

0:35:350:35:37

and they was told they've got no rights to move them.

0:35:370:35:42

They was blocked in, and they worked at the hospital.

0:35:420:35:45

They had to leave the car and walk in to work.

0:35:450:35:48

Peter Thomas's hairdressing salon is in the eye of the storm.

0:35:480:35:52

I spent a quarter of a million pound on this.

0:35:520:35:55

Took lots of risks.

0:35:550:35:57

This was derelict for 18 years, and I've given 19 people jobs.

0:35:570:36:00

It affects people passing through

0:36:000:36:02

who think they'll just stop off and get their hair cut -

0:36:020:36:05

can't park, so they carry on.

0:36:050:36:07

The way we're going at the minute, you know,

0:36:070:36:09

the business is just folding

0:36:090:36:11

and a lot of people are going to be out of work.

0:36:110:36:14

I mean, at the moment, all we're hearing is it's going to be permits.

0:36:140:36:18

Well, if it's permits, my staff can't park outside.

0:36:180:36:21

For the scheme to go ahead, more than 50% of the residents

0:36:220:36:26

on each street will have to vote for it.

0:36:260:36:29

I cannot see another way.

0:36:290:36:30

It's a very old town, we've got old terraced houses,

0:36:300:36:34

there is no excess land anywhere to facilitate.

0:36:340:36:38

The only way we will remove them is by introducing this restriction.

0:36:380:36:42

The council have sent people letters

0:36:420:36:44

about having a residents' scheme put in.

0:36:440:36:47

We're knocking the doors, checking that they've had the forms,

0:36:470:36:51

if they haven't had the forms we're giving them another one.

0:36:510:36:55

If you just read it, if the scheme goes ahead...

0:37:000:37:03

Have a read of it.

0:37:030:37:04

Oh.

0:37:070:37:09

You are seeing democracy in its best form.

0:37:090:37:12

Obviously, you can't force forms on people.

0:37:120:37:16

-Have you actually filled a form in?

-No.

0:37:160:37:19

No. Do you want to fill one in now while I wait?

0:37:190:37:21

-Oh, a parking permit form?

-Yeah.

0:37:210:37:22

Yeah, I have, actually.

0:37:220:37:24

-You've filled one in. Have you handed it back?

-Yeah, last week.

0:37:240:37:26

If they vote for the scheme,

0:37:260:37:28

residents will have CEOs patrolling their streets.

0:37:280:37:32

The arrival of new CEOs in Selby is upsetting the locals

0:37:320:37:36

and now threatens one of its long-standing trades.

0:37:360:37:38

I got a ticket on my car, didn't I?

0:37:400:37:42

Cos I come to pick t' kiosk up as usual.

0:37:420:37:45

Doubtfire's ice cream van has been a Selby institution for over 70 years.

0:37:450:37:50

Every afternoon, the owners pull up on the yellow line

0:37:500:37:53

to tow the kiosk away and have never had a problem - until now.

0:37:530:37:58

Traffic warden come and told me that once the kiosk is hooked on

0:37:580:38:02

then you can't serve, so if anybody's stood there waiting to be served,

0:38:020:38:05

you've just got to refuse them,

0:38:050:38:06

and he says, "If you don't go, I'll give you a ticket."

0:38:060:38:08

So he give me a ticket.

0:38:080:38:10

Me daughter just paid it, like.

0:38:130:38:14

And I say, it's her business, like,

0:38:140:38:16

now I just come to pick it up for her and that.

0:38:160:38:18

And like I say, she just paid it.

0:38:180:38:20

Save any aggro.

0:38:210:38:24

What will happen if you can't trade here any more, then?

0:38:240:38:26

What, if we couldn't trade here any more?

0:38:260:38:28

Well, she'd just lose her business, wouldn't she?

0:38:280:38:30

She'd have to shut down.

0:38:300:38:32

But one Selby resident isn't taking her PCN lying down.

0:38:340:38:38

Louise Gomerson got a ticket

0:38:380:38:40

on the very first day of new council enforcement.

0:38:400:38:44

I'm a homeowner, I have a car, I want to park outside my own house.

0:38:440:38:47

I don't really think it's too much to ask, to be honest.

0:38:470:38:50

Louise's street has a single yellow line down it.

0:38:520:38:55

But until the new CEOs showed up, she'd been parking on it regularly.

0:38:550:38:59

I noticed at the end of March that there was the broken yellow line,

0:38:590:39:04

so, basically, because I knew that it invalidated restrictions

0:39:040:39:07

on the street, I took advantage of being able to park outside my house.

0:39:070:39:10

This is the line here.

0:39:100:39:12

I mean, it's over a metre - it's over a metre wide.

0:39:120:39:16

I parked literally from the end of March

0:39:160:39:18

up until getting the parking ticket on the 1st of June.

0:39:180:39:22

Louise was told by the old wardens

0:39:220:39:24

that a broken line invalidates the restriction,

0:39:240:39:27

so she's decided to appeal her ticket

0:39:270:39:29

and strike a blow against the new enforcers.

0:39:290:39:32

Nine out of ten people would probably just pay it

0:39:340:39:36

because they just think, "What's the point in appealing it?"

0:39:360:39:40

Whereas I'm different.

0:39:400:39:41

It's a bit of a long-standing joke at work, to be honest.

0:39:410:39:44

I think they do think I'm nuts,

0:39:440:39:46

but then anybody that meets me think I'm nuts anyway.

0:39:460:39:48

But that's... That's just my personality!

0:39:480:39:50

While the PCN count is mounting up in Selby,

0:39:550:39:57

in Westminster, the council are trying out an approach

0:39:570:40:00

which involves them giving out fewer tickets.

0:40:000:40:03

The bay's suspended at the moment,

0:40:030:40:06

so I'm asking you to move on, OK?

0:40:060:40:08

But the marshals can only move cars along if they have drivers in them.

0:40:090:40:13

Mohammed's come across a scooter left parked in a suspended bay.

0:40:130:40:18

Check on that.

0:40:180:40:20

PCN's been issued...early morning.

0:40:230:40:27

How come you give ticket?

0:40:270:40:30

-You all right, sir?

-Because nothing there in the morning.

0:40:300:40:32

They don't close here in the morning when I park my bike.

0:40:320:40:35

This time plate has been up here since yesterday.

0:40:350:40:37

No, I didn't see it this morning.

0:40:370:40:39

It was not in this morning when I come out,

0:40:390:40:40

I come in this morning to work.

0:40:400:40:42

Sir, the suspension has been up here yesterday, I was on duty yesterday.

0:40:420:40:46

I've checked, the suspension was up here.

0:40:460:40:48

-I'm afraid not. This was not there yesterday.

-Furthermore...

0:40:480:40:51

If it's here, I would not park it there.

0:40:510:40:52

Barriers, the barriers are nothing to do with us, Westminster.

0:40:520:40:56

That one is not there.

0:40:560:40:57

The barriers haven't come from Parking Services.

0:40:570:40:59

-That one as well is not there. This one.

-If you listen to me,

0:40:590:41:02

as the PCN stands from here, the PCN does stand valid.

0:41:020:41:06

It's down to you now, sir, to write in to the council,

0:41:060:41:08

contest the ticket if you feel that you have a grounds of appeal.

0:41:080:41:12

OK. Is that good?

0:41:120:41:14

OK, thank you very much, sir.

0:41:140:41:16

I start to pay a year parking,

0:41:160:41:18

so today council give me a ticket for no reason.

0:41:180:41:20

I don't understand.

0:41:200:41:23

That suspension was up yesterday.

0:41:230:41:25

That other gentleman was saying it wasn't.

0:41:250:41:27

You saw it?

0:41:270:41:29

Yeah, we saw it.

0:41:290:41:30

We understand that when drivers are angry,

0:41:310:41:34

they're not angry at me personally.

0:41:340:41:37

They're angry simply on the situation.

0:41:370:41:40

None.

0:41:450:41:47

Even though the marshals give out fewer tickets than CEOs,

0:41:470:41:50

convincing the public they're different isn't easy.

0:41:500:41:53

They will say anything they want to you.

0:41:540:41:57

They will do anything they want to you.

0:41:570:41:58

Touch your hat.

0:41:580:42:00

Some people, they will take these and go.

0:42:000:42:01

Marshal or no marshal, they are there to nick you anyway.

0:42:010:42:06

It doesn't matter what you do or what you tell them.

0:42:060:42:09

No matter where they're from, what they've done in their life,

0:42:090:42:14

they are all one robot, all the same.

0:42:140:42:18

-You just got here?

-I just got here.

0:42:210:42:23

-When?

-Pardon?

-When?

-Now.

0:42:230:42:25

OK.

0:42:250:42:26

It will tell us. Don't worry.

0:42:260:42:28

We hate him, we hate this traffic warden.

0:42:320:42:34

Hello. Mister.

0:42:340:42:36

Mr Traffic Warden.

0:42:360:42:38

You know, if you are civilised,

0:42:380:42:40

you will not tell somebody that "I hate you."

0:42:400:42:44

That is it.

0:42:440:42:46

Bailiff Debbie has pulled over another car

0:42:490:42:52

at the roadside operation in Croydon.

0:42:520:42:55

The policemen are coming over now, right, for this Audi.

0:42:550:42:59

Yeah, OK, right,

0:42:590:43:00

you've got two nonpayment of parking fines on this vehicle.

0:43:000:43:04

-No.

-All right. OK. You've been parking illegally.

0:43:040:43:08

The Polish driver speaks very little English.

0:43:080:43:11

He gets his wife on the phone to act as interpreter.

0:43:110:43:15

Hello. Hello?

0:43:150:43:18

Hi, right.

0:43:180:43:19

The gentleman's got two payments - two nonpayment of parking fines

0:43:190:43:23

due to Croydon Council.

0:43:230:43:26

But according to them,

0:43:260:43:28

they've already paid a parking debt to a different bailiff company.

0:43:280:43:31

-Yeah, well, just wait...

-Yesterday, this evening...

0:43:310:43:34

When... Did the bailiffs come round yesterday, did you say?

0:43:340:43:37

Right. OK.

0:43:400:43:41

And did they give you any paperwork, have you made any payments to them?

0:43:410:43:45

He paid on Friday to another bailiff company.

0:43:450:43:48

He was charged £700-odd.

0:43:480:43:51

700 quid. That's...

0:43:510:43:54

Yeah, but you don't know what...

0:43:540:43:56

how many times they've been out or anything else like that, do you?

0:43:560:43:59

And they clamped it.

0:43:590:44:00

But we're just trying to get this all confirmed

0:44:000:44:03

with the council before we let him go.

0:44:030:44:05

How does a ticket get to £700?

0:44:050:44:07

It's different charges.

0:44:070:44:09

Obviously, I can't comment on what another bailiff company charges.

0:44:090:44:12

We have set figures in our company.

0:44:120:44:15

Obviously, once the new legislations come in in April next year,

0:44:150:44:18

we're all going to have to charge the same,

0:44:180:44:20

so it'll make life easier for everybody then.

0:44:200:44:24

Word comes through that they've only paid off one of the parking tickets.

0:44:240:44:28

It's news to the driver.

0:44:280:44:30

At the moment, the outstanding debt is £523.84 that needs to be paid.

0:44:300:44:35

-No!

-Yeah.

0:44:350:44:38

She paid it.

0:44:380:44:40

She's paid one.

0:44:400:44:41

You had two and they should have both been paid.

0:44:410:44:44

523.84.

0:44:440:44:47

Reluctantly, the driver decides to pay up -

0:44:480:44:50

half in cash, half on a card.

0:44:500:44:53

Thank you.

0:44:530:44:54

You've got to comply with the rules.

0:44:570:45:00

And if he's over here working and he's living here

0:45:000:45:02

then he needs to understand that if you get a parking fine,

0:45:020:45:05

you've got to pay them.

0:45:050:45:06

The mini-cab driver's back from the bank.

0:45:070:45:10

He's counting his cash. What a good payday for him.

0:45:120:45:15

I borrowed it off my father-in-law,

0:45:180:45:20

hopefully I'll be able to pay him back once I get to work.

0:45:200:45:25

So...the system's a bit messed up.

0:45:250:45:27

There's no consideration or understanding.

0:45:270:45:31

Just take your heart out and just leave it at home

0:45:340:45:36

and just come to work.

0:45:360:45:37

In Selby, the rift between locals and parking enforcers is deepening.

0:45:430:45:48

I'm going to get my paper.

0:45:500:45:51

It's two and a half months since the new CEOs arrived.

0:45:520:45:56

They've got some figures on the parking for last year

0:45:560:45:59

as opposed to when the police were doing it

0:45:590:46:01

to this year, when North Yorkshire County Council

0:46:010:46:03

and Harrogate are doing it, and they're interesting figures.

0:46:030:46:07

-How are you?

-Fine, thanks, how are you?

0:46:090:46:11

Yeah, good, thank you.

0:46:110:46:12

Are you keeping busy?

0:46:120:46:14

So-so.

0:46:140:46:15

The whole town's reading the newspaper.

0:46:170:46:20

It's just an outrage, isn't it? Complete...

0:46:220:46:24

They're just out to kill the trade in every angle they can.

0:46:240:46:29

"Anger as parking fines are increased five-fold."

0:46:310:46:34

I never did the maths on that.

0:46:360:46:38

693 tickets as opposed to 141 last year.

0:46:390:46:45

That is disgusting.

0:46:450:46:47

And I think I've got a quote in here somewhere -

0:46:470:46:49

"Richard Schofield, town centre manager for Selby Chamber

0:46:490:46:52

"and owner of Gowthorpe's Heaven and Home,

0:46:520:46:55

"said the increase has confirmed his worst fears.

0:46:550:46:58

"'This is a disgrace,' he said."

0:46:580:47:01

The ice cream van's made it in to the paper too.

0:47:010:47:04

"Recently received a ticket,

0:47:040:47:06

"it is not the van itself that attracts the ticket,

0:47:060:47:11

"but the car that comes to tow it."

0:47:110:47:14

Unbelievable, isn't it?

0:47:140:47:16

But that was there when Katrina was a kid.

0:47:160:47:20

I used to buy Katrina an ice cream from there.

0:47:200:47:22

She's in her 20s now.

0:47:220:47:24

That's how long it's been there.

0:47:240:47:26

The council argues that if you comply with parking regulations,

0:47:290:47:33

you don't get a ticket.

0:47:330:47:35

But Richard's fearful for the future of the town.

0:47:350:47:38

If things continue as they are, to be brutally honest,

0:47:380:47:41

I think I'd struggle to make another couple of years.

0:47:410:47:44

That'll be it.

0:47:450:47:46

It'll all be over then, be the end of the dream,

0:47:460:47:48

the end of the vision, it'll be end of everything.

0:47:480:47:50

It'll be particularly upsetting.

0:47:500:47:52

I don't like to think about it, really.

0:47:540:47:56

It'll be a great sadness.

0:47:560:47:58

For one Selby resident, it's crunch time.

0:48:050:48:08

Louise Gomerson's appeal hearing has come up.

0:48:080:48:10

I've got a point to prove and, you know,

0:48:120:48:14

you've got to fight your cause

0:48:140:48:16

because if they continue to get away with issuing tickets like they are

0:48:160:48:19

then Selby's just going to be more of a ghost town than what it already is.

0:48:190:48:23

Thank you.

0:48:230:48:24

-Hello.

-Hello.

-Are you all right?

0:48:240:48:27

I'm fine. Do sit down.

0:48:270:48:29

Shake hands.

0:48:290:48:31

Louise is appealing a PCN she received outside her house.

0:48:310:48:36

The reason I did park there on that particular day

0:48:370:48:41

was because there is a broken yellow line.

0:48:410:48:44

A few years previous, I was issued with a ticket

0:48:440:48:48

when the police were issuing tickets in Selby, and I appealed it,

0:48:480:48:53

and they withdrew the ticket because when it's a broken yellow line,

0:48:530:48:57

unless there's a T-bar on the end, it invalidates the restriction.

0:48:570:49:01

How long ago was that?

0:49:010:49:02

-Oh, probably about two or three years, at a guess.

-Yes.

0:49:020:49:05

I thought you were supposed to trust what the police tell you,

0:49:050:49:08

so what they've told me, I, you know, believed it to be true.

0:49:080:49:14

-There is the gap, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:49:140:49:16

-I actually...

-Which is what?

0:49:160:49:18

-About...

-It's probably about just over a metre wide, I would say.

0:49:180:49:21

Just over a metre, that's what I judged it.

0:49:210:49:23

And it's quite a long way further up the street, isn't it?

0:49:230:49:27

-It is, but to my under...

-About 50 metres or so?

0:49:270:49:31

Caroline's seen all the correspondence Louise

0:49:330:49:36

has sent to the council.

0:49:360:49:38

You did suggest to the council

0:49:380:49:39

that perhaps they should train everybody up

0:49:390:49:42

-to your version of events.

-Yeah, I was pretty mad at the time,

0:49:420:49:45

-so maybe it was something I shouldn't have said...

-Yes.

0:49:450:49:47

But it was, you know, heat of the moment.

0:49:470:49:49

Since Louise's previous ticket was cancelled,

0:49:490:49:52

the Court of Appeal has clarified the law on broken lines.

0:49:520:49:57

Now, obviously, if you're parked very near to the defect

0:49:570:49:59

and there's some confusion as to what applies,

0:49:590:50:03

then that's a valid argument.

0:50:030:50:05

But if the defect is far away from the car,

0:50:050:50:09

then it doesn't invalidate it.

0:50:090:50:11

I'm going to have to dismiss your appeal

0:50:110:50:13

because your car was parked in contravention of the traffic order.

0:50:130:50:18

All right? So I hope that's cleared it up for you.

0:50:200:50:22

You said the law was hazy at one point,

0:50:220:50:24

and it is now very clear and that is the clarity of it.

0:50:240:50:28

What happens now, then?

0:50:310:50:32

I'm afraid you're going to have to pay the penalty charge notice.

0:50:320:50:35

-Right, the lower amount?

-No, I'm afraid not.

0:50:350:50:37

They gave you an opportunity to do that,

0:50:370:50:39

and they did explain and you didn't take advantage of that,

0:50:390:50:42

so it's now the full penalty charge of £70.

0:50:420:50:47

-All right?

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:50:470:50:49

Oh...

0:50:530:50:54

Like, I'm probably silly getting upset about it,

0:50:570:50:59

but I just feel that I've wasted my time.

0:50:590:51:02

At the end of the day, you kind of can't give up the fight,

0:51:020:51:04

but at the same time I don't really want to get any more parking tickets.

0:51:040:51:08

With regards to Selby, the problems still continue.

0:51:080:51:11

Until they become a little bit more lenient

0:51:110:51:14

with how they issue tickets and stuff like that,

0:51:140:51:16

then the problem is still going to be there

0:51:160:51:18

and Selby's just going to continue to go downhill,

0:51:180:51:20

which is not what we want for our town.

0:51:200:51:22

We want better for our town.

0:51:220:51:24

Back in Westminster, Mohammed is checking on some pay by phone bays.

0:51:310:51:36

He's come across a car that's gone over time.

0:51:360:51:39

I'll just double check it again

0:51:410:51:44

and continue to issue him with a penalty.

0:51:440:51:48

It's an instant PCN, since the driver must have received a text message.

0:51:480:51:54

-That's my car.

-Hello, sir.

0:51:580:51:59

-Is it too late?

-Yes, it is, sir.

0:51:590:52:01

Oh, never mind.

0:52:010:52:02

Forgot the alarm.

0:52:070:52:09

Just a minute, sir.

0:52:090:52:10

You seem very sanguine about the fact...

0:52:130:52:16

No, no, no, it's my fault.

0:52:160:52:19

It is what it is.

0:52:190:52:20

You know, I came late and I ought to pay.

0:52:210:52:24

A citizen who is happy to pay up.

0:52:250:52:27

That's refreshing.

0:52:270:52:29

This is what I love about London - actually, I'm very serious.

0:52:310:52:34

It's painful when it happens to you,

0:52:340:52:36

but at least people respect traffic and they park well.

0:52:360:52:40

In Paris, it's a nightmare because there's no ticket,

0:52:400:52:43

there's no law enforcement,

0:52:430:52:44

and when it happens, I think it's like £20, so nobody cares.

0:52:440:52:48

I'm much happier about the system here.

0:52:480:52:50

-Thank you.

-Good luck.

-Thank you.

0:52:500:52:52

And he has a tough job. Like, his job is the toughest one I know

0:52:520:52:54

-because nobody loves you.

-Thank you.

0:52:540:52:56

I appreciate your understanding.

0:52:560:52:58

No problem. Take care.

0:53:000:53:02

Westminster are so pleased with the outcome of the marshalling trial,

0:53:030:53:07

they've decided to roll it out across the Borough.

0:53:070:53:09

As he was saying, traffic down there is chaos,

0:53:110:53:14

whereas here we have control of our traffic, you know?

0:53:140:53:17

And, yes - you can clearly see he appreciates that.

0:53:170:53:21

The results of the West Bromwich residents' parking vote are in,

0:53:240:53:28

and Kira Fleck presents them to her boss.

0:53:280:53:31

This is the whole area that we identified that has been affected

0:53:310:53:35

because of the police station.

0:53:350:53:37

So the green are in favour

0:53:370:53:38

-and the red are against.

-Green are in favour, yes.

0:53:380:53:41

At the moment, Oak Road comes out

0:53:410:53:43

as in favour of having a resident parking scheme.

0:53:430:53:46

It's over 50%. But none of the others do.

0:53:460:53:51

What it will do is, by putting a scheme there,

0:53:510:53:54

it will still further push problems in Oak Lane,

0:53:540:53:57

Lodge Road, Cambridge Street.

0:53:570:53:59

It's surprising why they haven't agreed,

0:53:590:54:01

because they've got a huge problem.

0:54:010:54:03

In the meantime, since I spoke to you last,

0:54:030:54:05

I have spoken to the chief superintendent of the police station

0:54:050:54:09

about the possibility of removing some of this green area

0:54:090:54:13

around the edge and replacing that with parking spaces.

0:54:130:54:17

But you could get an awful lot of them right round the edge there

0:54:170:54:20

if some of that greenery was removed.

0:54:200:54:24

We like to have the trees and the grass and the greenery where we can,

0:54:240:54:28

but if we need parking spaces,

0:54:280:54:31

that, realistically, to me, is more important.

0:54:310:54:33

With the shape of the permit scheme decided,

0:54:360:54:39

Kira's visiting residents to let them know.

0:54:390:54:41

Whenever we actually propose any changes or any restrictions,

0:54:430:54:48

we are required by law to put notices in the area,

0:54:480:54:51

and as you can see on this lamp column, there is a notice.

0:54:510:54:54

Some of them may have been removed,

0:54:540:54:56

somebody's tried to remove this one as well.

0:54:560:54:58

In this day and age where we are making cutbacks

0:55:000:55:04

and we haven't got sufficient staff,

0:55:040:55:06

I think the bit about talking to the people and the community out there

0:55:060:55:11

is sort of going by the wayside, and we need to make more effort.

0:55:110:55:16

DOG BARKS

0:55:160:55:17

Hello, little one, and what's your name?

0:55:170:55:20

-Alfie.

-Alfie.

-It's all right, Alfie.

0:55:200:55:22

He was attacked last week, so be careful,

0:55:220:55:24

-because he might be a bit...

-Oh, oh, OK.

0:55:240:55:25

Hello, Alfie.

0:55:250:55:27

-How are you, anyway?

-Come in. Oh, I'm all right.

0:55:270:55:29

You're all right?

0:55:290:55:30

-Parking, the scheme.

-Oh, yes.

0:55:300:55:33

-We're only doing it Oak Road.

-Oak Road. Yeah.

0:55:330:55:36

We're doing it... Well, we're proposing it for there

0:55:360:55:39

and hopefully people will be happy,

0:55:390:55:41

because the majority have asked for it.

0:55:410:55:44

All the residents in the area have received letters

0:55:440:55:46

telling them the result.

0:55:460:55:48

Nav lives on Oak Road.

0:55:480:55:50

It was good. I mean, we was overjoyed.

0:55:500:55:52

The way we look at it,

0:55:520:55:54

I think anything just to get away from the nightmare of the parking.

0:55:540:55:59

And if that means we have to pay something towards that now,

0:55:590:56:03

you know, we'll have to do it.

0:56:030:56:05

Alan and Joan live on a street

0:56:050:56:08

that didn't vote in favour of the permits.

0:56:080:56:10

So things are only going to get worse for them.

0:56:100:56:13

Well, I wanted to, but as the wife says, we pay tax,

0:56:130:56:17

we pay insurance, and even if they put one on,

0:56:170:56:21

-you still wouldn't be guaranteed a parking space.

-A parking space.

0:56:210:56:25

The council have made it quite plain that that's what they want doing.

0:56:250:56:28

And they'll do it, whether you want it or not, it'll be...

0:56:280:56:31

And you can take it to court.

0:56:310:56:32

It won't make any difference

0:56:320:56:34

because they've got more money than what we've got.

0:56:340:56:36

Hiya.

0:56:390:56:41

Last time I came here, you wanted to chop my hair off, I remember that.

0:56:420:56:46

Wherever we put a resident parking scheme,

0:56:470:56:50

if there is any property that is right on the junction

0:56:500:56:53

and there's restrictions there,

0:56:530:56:55

we will include them in the residents' scheme.

0:56:550:56:57

Obviously, you would have to buy business permits,

0:56:570:56:59

but it is at a far less cost

0:56:590:57:01

than individuals who would have to park in the town centre.

0:57:010:57:04

-That is no good for me.

-No, no, we were going...

0:57:040:57:06

You get ladies in with perms and colours.

0:57:060:57:08

-We've looked at your hairdressing...

-You've looked at it?

-I have.

0:57:080:57:11

I have one priority.

0:57:110:57:12

Business permits will allow Peter's staff to park,

0:57:120:57:15

but Kira's also allowed some free parking for his customers.

0:57:150:57:18

-We have put two hours, no return within three.

-Right.

0:57:180:57:22

That allows people to go in and...

0:57:220:57:24

Yeah, that's better, thanks.

0:57:240:57:26

Are you OK with that explanation?

0:57:260:57:27

Yeah, as long as we can get something sorted...

0:57:270:57:29

Yeah, we'll sort it, we'll get there.

0:57:290:57:31

Everybody will be happy.

0:57:310:57:33

-OK, you take care.

-Thank you very much.

-Take care.

0:57:330:57:35

It's human nature to find a place where they don't have to pay.

0:57:380:57:42

Space everywhere now is a commodity and we have to manage it.

0:57:430:57:47

Next time...

0:57:500:57:51

It's full up down there. Full.

0:57:510:57:53

..a seaside town buckles under the weight of tourists...

0:57:530:57:57

We've got a board that says "car park full",

0:57:570:57:59

and they drive round it.

0:57:590:58:00

..parking enforcement upsets the locals...

0:58:020:58:05

You take my car in front of me! How do you sleep at night?

0:58:050:58:08

-I'm sorry...

-Have you got children, have you got a mother,

0:58:080:58:11

have you got a wife?

0:58:110:58:12

..and a £30 parking ticket ends in arrest.

0:58:120:58:15

-Stop resisting.

-Take your hands away.

0:58:150:58:18

Take your hands away now.

0:58:180:58:20

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