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In the UK, someone gets a parking ticket every three seconds. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:04 | |
You can appeal against it. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
I will appeal, don't worry. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
I think it's disgusting. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
HORN BLARES | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
With more cars than ever on our roads, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
the battle over parking has reached boiling point. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Is there any questions you want to ask me now? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
How do you sleep at night? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
You people, you rob the general public. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
You're absolute vermin. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
Just take your heart out and just leave it at home. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
With space at a premium, councils need parking controls. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
We've got a board that says "car park full", | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
and they drive round it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Engine's off. Door's open. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
She's got a baby and can't even park outside her own bloody house. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
I'm going to allow the appeal. You don't have to pay. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Oh, I feel great. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
But for many, parking enforcement is a direct attack on motorists. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
It's just about the money. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
In my opinion, they are bloodsuckers. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
You've got no compassion doing the job that you're doing. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
And staff are in the firing line. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
"Come back round here and we'll shoot you" | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
is the most common thing you'll hear up here. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
If you are civilised, you will not tell somebody that "I hate you". | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
As they deal with... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
parking madness. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
You might as well just stand here and nick it off of people. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
When I say I hate them, I mean I hate them. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
There's so little free parking left in Britain's towns and cities, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
any streets that don't have restrictions become a battle ground. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
You can't park anywhere. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
I just live there | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
and it's like it all the way up and down the road every day. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Six o'clock in the morning they come, they slam the doors, the boot, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
and they don't care about anybody. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
And this is the police that are causing this problem? | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Yes. Yes. Yes. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
18 months ago, a new police station opened in West Bromwich. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
400 people work there, but there's only parking for visitors | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and senior members of staff. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
So officers park in the surrounding streets instead. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
The police said they can park how they like, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
as long as they leave enough room for a trolley. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
SIREN WAILS Go on! Yay! | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
How about that? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
-Did you see that? -I did. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Literally madness round here. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
-It causes arguments as well, you know. -It ain't made us very happy. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
When you've got somebody that works late, like my husband, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
and he comes in and there's nowhere to park. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Joan and Alan have lived in the area for 28 years. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-It used to be a nice place to live. It's exhausting. -It pulls you down. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
It drags you down. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
It makes you feel as if you don't want to live here. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
No, I've been talking to the wife about selling my house | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and moving elsewhere. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
The police are not doing anything illegal by parking in the area, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
but that doesn't help the residents. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Keeping the residents happy in this dispute | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
is the job of Sandwell Council's parking manager, Kira Fleck. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
It is like when you have young children, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
that's the only analogy I can use. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
You draw boundaries with them, you tell them what they can do, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
they can't do, and everybody then exists in harmony in a family. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
She's invited locals to a meeting to gauge opinion | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
on a residents' parking scheme. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Kira from Sandwell Council. Have a seat. Make yourself comfortable. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-It's all right, I'll stand. -OK? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
If you sit down, you fall asleep - they might think I'm dead. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Hello. My name is Kira, I'm from the council. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-Hi, sir. Hello. -Not very happy. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Don't be frightened. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
Oh, I ain't frightened. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
We have identified the problem... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
-And we've... -You've identified it, now what is it? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
The problem is people parking all day long | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
and you can't park in the vicinity. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
-Ah, know what your actual problem is? -What? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
-You've took the parking spaces off us... -Your design. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
The way you've designed West Bromwich, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
that's where your problem is. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
You see, you're greedy. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
I'm not going to get into the politics of it. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
-All I'm here today... -That's the problem. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
-It IS the politics. -No, no, let me just talk about something... | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Undaunted, Kira presses on. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
We're ready to kick. Hi. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Morning. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
Lovely morning today. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
The police were invited to this meeting | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
and they felt that the residents may feel intimidated | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
by the police being here. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
You know what intimidation is? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
When they're coming out at four o'clock in the morning | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-putting their sirens on. -Yeah. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
Our biggest problem is the police officers parking outside our homes. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
-OK... -You don't... You don't face this problem. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
This might be a harder sell than Kira was expecting. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
Councils can't just slap in new parking restrictions | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
wherever they want. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
They have to follow set procedures for the regulations to be legal. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Devon resident Peter Harry | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
believes his local council don't always bother. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Devon County Council are fleecing the motorists | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Peter drives the length and breadth of Devon, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
hunting for dodgy restrictions | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
to help fellow motorists fight parking fines. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
People think that they can't park in a disabled bay | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
because of the word "disabled" on the road. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
It means nothing unless there's an upright plate | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
saying it's disabled parking only, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and there is a traffic order attached to it. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
There's nothing here to say it's a disabled bay. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
No crime, no fine. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
I don't like to call myself a campaigner, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
I like to call myself an armchair auditor. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
That's what David Cameron and Eric Pickles... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
..has urged everybody to be. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Peter's latest line of investigation | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
is that local civil enforcement officers, or CEOs, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
are wearing the wrong uniforms. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Today he's out to capture one on camera. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
This is a favourite spot, up around here. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
They hang around quite a bit. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
He was just stood there just now, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
and now he's disappeared and I can't see him. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Where did you see him then? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Up there where those cars are? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-I blinked and he disappeared. -Yeah? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
The sign there says 30 minutes parking only, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
no return within one hour. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
So he must have been here within the hour | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
to place a ticket on that vehicle. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Peter finally has a CEO in his sights. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Have you got my permission to take a photograph, sir? | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
-I don't need it. -Yes, you do, sir. -No, I don't. -Yes, you do. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-Public... Public place. -Yeah, but I'm not a public person. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
He's not enforcing legally, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
because he should be displaying on his tunic | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
that he's enforcing for Devon County Council. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
But he's displaying on his tunic | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
that he's enforcing for Mid Devon District Council. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Isn't that almost kind of small beans, though? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
No, no, no, it's the law. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
The law says that they should display | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
the name of the enforcing authority. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
If Peter's right, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
then every penalty charge notice the CEO's issued is invalid. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
-Well, you learn something new every day. -There you are. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
This is one case where I think it ought to go to appeal, really. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
"You learn something every day," he said, didn't he? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
20,000 motorists a year bring their battles over parking tickets | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
-That's the vehicle in question, yeah? -Yes. -That's our vehicle. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
We have a fixed machine, David, that's a high-pressure water jetter. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
You're parking as close as possible to the drain, is that right? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-Yeah, exactly, yeah. -What's the length of the hose? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
This is about people and human life. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
And, you know, everybody's lives are different | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and the circumstances that happen are completely different. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
I've been doing it since 1993, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
when I was the first ever adjudicator. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Motorists and councils can both attend hearings, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
but a lot of the time only the drivers turn up. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-Good morning! -Do sit down. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-How are you? -I'm fine, thank you. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
The council won't attend, I don't think, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
because in these days of austerity, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
they're not allowed to buy railway tickets any more, I don't think. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
My wife was going to come, but she feels a bit emotional about it, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
so I said I would come along and put our case. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
David Hutt and his wife were having their drive cleaned, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
so Mrs Hutt moved the car off the drive | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
and parked on a single yellow line in their street. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
It's regular that we move cars off the drive and on to the side | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
and then back again. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
David believes the council should show leniency | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
because his wife left a note explaining she was a resident. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Can you see on the front | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
-that there is... -Yes. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
That's a note that she put on. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Well, he probably couldn't read it. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
No, well, sorry, the point is it had been raining | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-so heavily that got washed out. -She put it on the outside? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
She put that on the outside and it got washed out. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Why wouldn't she put it on the inside? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Lord knows. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
Had somebody left the car there first and she couldn't get into it? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
No. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
In the letter of the law, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
you shouldn't park during the restriction period. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
But the law is a blunt instrument | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
and I would just be asking that the council reconsider | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
on the basis that we are residents | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and the restriction is not there to punish the residents, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
it's more just to deter, if you like, the commuting traffic. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
I'm not convinced that they would find that compelling, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
so I think that we're all in the same boat here | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
and we're going to have to just come under the cosh | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
of the blunt instrument | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
-and I'm going to have to turn down your appeal, I'm afraid. -OK. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
-All right. -Thank you so much. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
-I'm not allowed to shake your hand, am I? -No. But don't worry. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Don't worry. Great stuff. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
David will now have to cough up the original fine of £70. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
When drivers don't pay PCNs and ignore council reminder letters, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
eventually the bailiffs come calling. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
Golf. Got a Golf. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
They use automatic number plate recognition cameras | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
to spot vehicles with outstanding fines on them. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
We're bailiffs, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
and we're here for nonpayment of a parking fine on this vehicle. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
Debbie works for Whyte & Co bailiffs. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
She specialises in recovering parking fines. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
At the moment, the outstanding debt is £517.84. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
We won't be able to let your vehicle go unless we have a payment made. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
This morning, she's in Croydon on a roadside operation, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
working alongside husband Steve and the local police. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Hermione? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Oh, that's mum. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
Your mum, right, OK. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
The car's been pulled over today for the nonpayment of a parking fine. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
It's £517.84. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Jesus. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
And we need to have a payment today. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-What, the full payment? -Yeah. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
The car belongs to the driver's mother, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
but he'll need to pay up if he wants to go on his way. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Well, I haven't got the money on me right now. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Is there anyone who can pay it online for you? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Because we can't let you go unless we get the payment. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
They parked on zigzags, whoever was driving the vehicle, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
they were parked on zigzags, like, a pedestrian crossing, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
so they deserve to get a parking ticket. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
But a zigzag's a zigzag, innit, at the end of the day. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
Obviously, he's saying they had difficulties paying. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Just who wants to pay and who can't or won't pay is the difference. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
You haven't even proved to me that I was parked on a zigzag. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
I mean, where is it? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
It just says you were parked on a zigzag crossing. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
And that's all the information I've got. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-Where? When? -Well, it will be in Croydon. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
-Oh, in January? -Yeah, in January. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
That's, like, eight months ago. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Yeah, it takes about six...minimum six months to come to bailiff stage. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Well, I haven't got the money now. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
How much can you pay today? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
I haven't got any money on me, I'm broke. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
I might have a pound, I think. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Well, you can't pay by card, debit card or credit card? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
No. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
-You want what I haven't got. -Well, the problem is, if we... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
if the bailiffs have to go back to your mum's address, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
they would be looking to do a house removal of your mum's goods. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
I haven't got the money to pay 'em! | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
They say that I parked on a zigzag, which I don't do, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
they can't prove any evidence or anything like that, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
they've just got paperwork from Bromley or Croydon Council. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Meanwhile, Steve has had enough of waiting for the driver to pay up. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
What are you doing? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
-Is this yours, sir? -Yeah. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
If you ain't paying it, sir, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
we're looking for some goods to seize, sir, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
to cover the debts. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Oh, my goodness. You're going to seize my goods?! | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
It's all rubbish in there, really. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Well, you can just pay for it. It'll be sorted, sir. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
I ain't got the money. I would pay it. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
If you try a credit card with the lady, or a debit card, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
if it doesn't go through, I'll believe you, sir, OK? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Because you must know that things we're told is unbelievable. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-OK, OK, I'll give you... -Is that fair enough? -Yeah. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Come on, then. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
-And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, then. -OK. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
The gentleman's going to try his cards - | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
if they don't go through, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-and then he's going to have to... -Sort it out. -..sort it out. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Look at that, one in me pocket. Can't be bad. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Is it a debit card, sir? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Yeah. Nothing's on them. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-We'll try 'em and we're all happy, then. -OK. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Right, just pop your pin in, please, and the green button. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Where was you going, anywhere nice? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
I'm just taking the missus to work. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Not authorised. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Because there's nothing on there. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
There might be £6, if there's anything. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
When drivers fail to pay up, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
the bailiffs would normally remove the car. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
But this is a mobility vehicle, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
so Debbie and Steve decide to let them go. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Poor old Mum, she's 83, and I drive her around and stuff | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and, you know... | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
The bailiff company who has got the original warrant | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
will have to go to their house and do a house removal | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
if that's what they want to do. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
That's the price of living in this country. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Everybody wants your money, whether you've got it or not, find it. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
What can I say? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
This is not a cop out or anything. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
I can't answer on behalf of the police. I will take... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
In West Bromwich, residents are still voicing their opinions | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
on what to do about police officers' cars blocking up their streets. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
We have to find another way of dealing with it. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-Can I give you a suggestion? -Can I continue now? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
No, no, I'm going to... In a minute. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
-I'm not trying to keep it down... -Keep it down? This is a good meeting. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-It's getting... -I'm enjoying it. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
What Kira really wants to do | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
is convince them to go for residents' parking, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
but the scheme will cost locals £20 per permit. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
I don't think we should have to pay for parking... | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
-residents' parking fees. -No. -£25, £20. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
If you've got three people in your house with cars | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
and you're paying all that much money out | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
and you're paying your poll tax as well... I don't think so! | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Resident schemes are not here | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
to jeopardise or inconvenience residents. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
They are here to assist you. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
Are they for life? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
-They're for one year from the date. -One year?! -One year. -You're joking. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
So if people have this conception that, "I own this house, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
"therefore the space outside my house is my own," that is wrong. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
If you don't want a scheme, that's fine. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
All you need to do is return the questionnaires | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
saying you don't want the scheme. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
These questionnaires - we haven't received one. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-You haven't received one? -No. -Are you in that catchment area, sir? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
In Richard Street West, just round the back here. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
OK, sir. I have got some questionnaires here. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
At the end of the day, I want to do something. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
The council wants to do... | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
We know you have got an issue here, and we've got to start somewhere. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
Questionnaires? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
It is exhausting, but in a nice way. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
You feel that you have... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
The day has been long, there has been intense passions shown. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
I think it's a racket, my friend. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
It's another way of making money out of people. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
They should have took that into consideration | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
when they was building the police station. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
They knew they was going to be wanting car parks. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
So, in other words, they've blocked everybody else's street up. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
At the roadside operation in Croydon, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
a mini-cab driver has been pulled over | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
for nonpayment of a parking fine. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Unless you cough up nearly £600, you lose your car, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
you lose your work, you'll probably end up losing your home, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and you can even lose your family. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Bloody... It's a nightmare. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
He says he's got someone coming down | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
to actually make the payment on his behalf, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
so at least his car's not going to be removed, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and he can then go on his way. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
When the driver's father-in-law does turn up, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
he hasn't brought any money. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Instead, he takes the shopping home. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
He's going up to Shirley. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-Oh, so not long. About, what? -Not long, about half an hour. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
-Half hour. -Yeah. -OK. -See you soon. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
He's taken my shopping home and see if he can help me with the payment. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
-He's -BLEEP -us off. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-Don't be silly. -He ain't even doing it. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
-I'm telling you. He'll -BLEEP -us off. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Well, why don't you just get him to pay online? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Steve believes that it seems a bit of a story | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
that the man's going to take his shopping home | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
and then come back down with a card. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
It seems a little bit strange. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
You're a bit of a double act, aren't you, you two? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Yeah, we do try! | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
But we don't work together all the time, though. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
No, just on these type of... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I couldn't work with Steve, live with him and work with him. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
He's going to try to make the payment. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-He's going to TRY to make payment? -Yeah. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
-He's getting my credit card. -He's going to try to make the payment, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
-or he's going to make the payment? -We're going to make the payment. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
You're going to make the payment. You've got half an hour, sir. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
If it ain't in time, you're going to lose the vehicle. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
They want to get it as quickly as they can. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
There's no giving chance. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
There's no, you know, understanding or giving anybody a chance. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Before councils were allowed to manage their own parking enforcement, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
it was a gentler time, when traffic wardens, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
then part of the police force, patrolled our streets. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
I wore a tie, and I chose to wear a tie. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
The police ladies always liked to wear, like, a cravat. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Until she retired five years ago, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Helen Turner was the only traffic warden in Selby in North Yorkshire. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
I wondered if I would take to it, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
because after I gave my first ticket I nearly burst into tears | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
because he wasn't very happy. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
But I thought, "Well, I've got myself into this, I've got to keep going." | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
If somebody had said to me, "Look, I'm dashing in for a prescription, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
"it's my little boy, I've just been to the doctor's," | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I'd say, "Be quick." | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
You've got to have a bit of leeway, give and take with them all. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:20 | |
But the give and take seemed to stop in Selby | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
when North Yorkshire County Council took over the job in June this year. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
We've got these traffic wardens come from Harrogate | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
that are just acting with force, like nobody ever has done before. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
The minute anybody parks at the back, they're diving on them, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
it's ridiculous. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
I used to just nip up behind Wetherells | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
and pull up round there, you see, and nip in to the bank and nip out again. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
I got fined - was it £30? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
£60. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
You normally see them about every hour. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
They walk up this way and then they walk back down | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
and then they reappear. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Certainly every couple of hours. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Richard Schofield owns a gift shop on the high street. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Even before the new civil enforcement officers arrived, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
the town's retailers were struggling. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
I've become a little bit of an island, really, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
in that I'm stuck between two empty shops. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
We've got the Booze Buster's and the Blockbuster's both closed. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
And then I've got two charity shops. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
I've been in the town for 12 years. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Certainly, we bought it at a difficult time, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and things seem to have got worse. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
The internet's become much more popular. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
People don't even leave home now. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
And we've got new parking wardens come from Harrogate recently | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
and the chances are if they're five minutes late to their car, now, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
they're going to get a £60 fine. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I think once a customer's had a £60 fine, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
they ain't coming back here any more. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
I know they did an old gentleman near our shop. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
He had a blue badge, and they did him | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
because he hadn't set the time properly. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-Recently? -About three weeks ago on a Saturday. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
-That's these new guys. -£70-odd it cost him. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
And he came in the shop asking what he could do, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
because he didn't understand - he was in his 80s. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
People I've spoke to in the shop, they're not given a minute, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
whereas before I think the police - | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
and certainly when Helen was doing it, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
she understood that the traders, you know, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
people needed to stop there and come and get a card | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
and they liked to have a chat. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
They were just a bit more understanding, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
they were a friend to the town. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
I had a delivery man the other day, works for himself, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
he said, "I'm never coming back to your town." | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
How am I going to get my parcels? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
In Central London, racking up parking fines | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
is an occupational hazard for delivery drivers. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I've got a collection of tickets, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
yeah, from all over the place. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
How many do you get? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
I would say two a week, for sure. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Vincenzo Oliveri owns two Italian restaurants in the West End. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
He goes backwards and forwards in his van throughout the day | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
picking up supplies. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
All this road, there are double yellow lines. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
If the traffic warden comes here, you've got a ticket. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
They don't let you function properly. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
The rent is very high, the rates they are very high. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
The labour is very high in Central London. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
If you add also the tickets that you get nearly every day, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
somebody's got to pay for it. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
One of Vincenzo's restaurants | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
is in a street where no loading is allowed whatsoever. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Not very convenient for essential deliveries. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
I'm checking just in case, because as soon as they come, we have to run. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Fernando... HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
About ten people, they have to help me. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Roberto. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Now it's started to rain as well. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
That's what we need! | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
As soon as they come here... Actually, he's coming. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Is he there? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
There's somebody with a yellow... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
It's very stressful, very stressful. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
It's incredible. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
I will have a heart attack soon. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
With the weekly bill for parking fines | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
now running into tens of thousands for freight companies, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
the body that represents them has set up a dedicated service | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
to deal with parking tickets on behalf of members. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
The top four are cancellations, so it's like, "Yes!" | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Mandy Carey's full-time job | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
is processing and appealing parking tickets. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
The vehicle is parked on a single yellow line, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
there is no kerb lip there at all. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Once I've seen something like that, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
I would then go on to Google Street View. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
So, as you can see, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
there is no indication of time plates of restrictions or anything at all. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
-It's a bit like being an investigator, isn't it? -It is. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Some jobs get a bit mundane, don't they? But this one, it's not, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
it's exciting. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Access to the vehicle's tracking technology | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
helps make the case watertight. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
I've also attached the driver's trip sheet, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
and it indicates doors opening and closing, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
so there is a delivery being made. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Hopefully, we should get a letter back | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
saying that that one will be cancelled. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Ironically, parking fines don't lead to huge profits for councils. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
The cost of enforcement | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
often cancels out the income from the fines. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
They do make money from motorists who pay to park. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Westminster Council have realised that it's better for them | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and better for motorists | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
if they stop issuing so many tickets. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
There is a waiting restriction. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
-Yes. -Thank you. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
So they're taking a more human approach to parking enforcement. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
And how long will that take, sir? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Say hello to the traffic marshals. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
The hat, flat hat - yes, I do like it. It is stylish. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
It does look friendlier. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
Hello. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
This bay is suspended... | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
..so you're not allowed to park here. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
'Do you ever issue tickets?' | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Of course, that would be the last resort. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Like the way I told her to move now, if she refused to move, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
then it's a case it will be the last resort for me. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Thank you. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
The marshals currently operate in a small area around Leicester Square. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
They ticket cars at roughly half the rate of normal CEOs. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Instead, they want to encourage drivers to pay for parking. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
You have to pay by phone if you're going to park there, yeah? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
-Have you paid some money today? -Yes. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
We always pay. We are chauffeurs, we have to pay. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
You know, he told me that he had made payment. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
And he hasn't. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
So when I check, he hasn't made payment. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
-Are you just making it now? -Yes. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
OK. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Because it's not coming up - so you're just making it now. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Not all drivers quite understand what is required of them. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
Afternoon, sir. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
How are you doing, are you good? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
Oh, yeah, yeah. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
He's a regular. We do see the gentleman around here. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
He's driving round the corner, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
isn't he just adding to the traffic out on other roads? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Well...possibly. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Possibly. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
-But, again, drivers do need to find... -Here he is again! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
We get a lot of deliveries here | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
and we have to get people to back in, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
and they're always just sitting there. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
They obviously haven't got a parking permit or nothing, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
so they don't get ticketed, they just drive round the corner and... | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Know what I mean? That's a problem for us. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Is that our friend again over there? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Yes. Yes. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
That's our friend again. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-Hello again, sir. -How are you doing, man? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
-How are you doing, are you good? -I'm very good. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Please... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
..try and get yourself in a pay by phone bay or something | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-and make payment, please. -Sorry? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
-Try and get yourself in a pay by phone bay please, sir. -All right. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Thank you, sir. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Since he complied, there's no need to issue him a PCN. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
It's the polite thing to do. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Half an hour later, this driver still isn't getting the message. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
You're chasing me around, innit? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
We're just walking around and we keep on bumping into you. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Bailiffs Debbie and Steve | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
have been on this roadside job in Croydon for four hours. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
How long have you been married, you two? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Two years. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Been together 18, got married two and a half years ago. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
We met at a friend's hairdressing salon. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
I felt sorry for her. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Earlier today, they pulled over a mini-cab driver | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
who owes £547 for an unpaid fine. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
How do you justify | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
the amount of levy you put on the outstanding balance? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
All our costs are reasonable, they're all set by the council. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
But your cost, it outweighs, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
literally outweighs, by far, what the outstanding balance is. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Well, if you took that off, you took the VAT off, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
you've got £288.20 is our cost. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
What about the VAT, why would you charge anybody VAT? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Because we're a company. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
-Is he paying, or what? -Yeah, he's paying now, I think. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
The mini-cab driver's father-in-law has returned - | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
this time with a credit card in hand. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-Is it a debit card or credit card, sir? -Credit card. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
-Credit card. -Will there be any... -A surcharge on the credit card? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Yes, a 3% surcharge. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Have you got a calculator on you? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Apparently, there's a 3% surcharge on the card, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
so we might have to go into the local branch, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
transfer the money over to a debit card, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
which is going to cost me nothing, and then make the payment that way. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Excuse me, can I quickly go down to the NatWest Bank, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
which is literally at the end of that road, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
so I won't have to pay a 3% surcharge? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
-How long is it going to take you, sir? -End of that road. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
If you want to believe me or not. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
I don't know where the end of that road is, sir. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
West Croydon is just there, so...yeah? | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
If the tow truck gets here, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
the vehicle will be put on the tow truck. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Increasing numbers of PCNs | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
never come into contact with car windscreens - | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
they're issued by CCTV and come through the post. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
When the ticket came through the door, I was flabbergasted, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
I thought, "What's this?" | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
I was trying to think, somebody must have made a mistake here. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Bristol resident Lexington Burke | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
was issued a PCN on a street well-known for its Caribbean food. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
Jamaican mangoes here. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
Oh, my gosh, this is really nice - a good smell on that one! | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
He'd driven his disabled aunt to the street | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
to visit her favourite West Indian restaurant. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
She loves to come here in order to buy the food from here, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
and knows the person who cooks the meals very well. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
She's very sick and her taste changes, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
but she usually goes for something like jerk chicken | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
or she may want to have curry goat. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
It's easier to talk about what's right about her | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
than what's wrong with her. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
She has dialysis three times per week, angina, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
had how many heart attacks? I've lost count. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
His aunt is a blue badge holder, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
but the disabled bay outside the restaurant was already taken. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
On the day itself, I wasn't parked in the actual disabled bay, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
I was parked... | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
..the next position after the disabled parking, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
which is here where this Golf is parked. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
In front of me here is a sign that isn't easy to understand, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
so I relied on what the disabled badge holder sign told me. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
I thought I had three hours parking here and parked accordingly. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
But you weren't actually parked in a disabled bay? | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
I wasn't in the disabled bay, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
but I parked in the nearest spot to it and put the badge out. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
While he was parked there, a CCTV car caught him on camera. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
There he is. Oh, look at that! | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
And he's just driven by. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
That is amazing! I cannot believe he's here again. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Lex is taking his case to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
Increasing numbers of the appeals now happen over the telephone. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
I'm OK. There is obviously a little bit of nerves. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
Never done this before. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:32:00 | 0:32:01 | |
Phone hearings make it easier for councils and motorists to take part. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
Hello. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
Hello, gentlemen. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
-Good morning. -Yes, good morning. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Mr James, are you there? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Yes, I am. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
Just to start. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
This was a ticket that was sent to you through the post, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
-wasn't it, Mr Burke? -Correct, yes. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Did you know what the regulations were in this bay? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-Did you understand? -No. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
I will say to you that I am very much confused | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
and a bit perplexed to understand how to interpret these. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
It's part of my argument, my case - | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
I feel that the city council is not being very user friendly. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
So you were... Were you shopping for the household, then, on that day? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
I sometimes do that for the household | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
and take the household with me, also. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
Do you have a disability yourself, Mr Burke? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Well, not that is registered per se. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
Right, so you yourself do not have a blue badge? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
-No, I don't. -But you... -No, I don't. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
-But you carry around your mother and your auntie. -My auntie. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Well, they have limited mobility. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
They can't carry much weight at all. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
So I've got a choice, if I can find parking, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
I can go with them to the shops | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
so I can be the load bearer of whatever they shop for, yes? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
You didn't realise that there was two different bays there? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
I would have parked exactly where the black vehicle is, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
if I may say so, but it was taken. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I'm a disabled badge holder | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
so I thought, "OK, I'm going to park to the nearest proximity | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
"and that should cover me," I thought. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
But with great respect, Mr Burke, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
you aren't a disabled badge holder, are you? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
It's your aunt and your mother. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
No, no, sorry, I correct myself. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
When I say I'm a disabled badge holder, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I'm driving for disabled individuals. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
In fact, the blue badge didn't mean Lex could park there. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
So will his argument that the signs were confusing hold any sway? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
Mr James, I can't read the sign in the evidence that you've supplied. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
The comment just below it on the page says what the restrictions are. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
Where is that sign? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
Because I can't see that sign in the video footage. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
If you scroll back the footage | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
to just before where you can see the black car, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
if you look on the left of Mr Lewington's car, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
you can see the sign at the top of the picture. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Caroline's not satisfied that the video or the still photographs | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
prove that the restriction was properly signed. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
I appreciate they couldn't have parked where there's a loading ban, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
but it may not have been clear to them at the time. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
I do not have these very clear additional pictures | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
of the signing at this complicated site. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
So, Mr Burke, I'm going to allow your appeal on this occasion. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
-So thank you very much, gentlemen. -Thank you. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
OK, bye. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
I've won. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
My appeal has been upheld in this instance. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-Guess what? -Yeah? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I won! | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
-The tribunal has found in my favour. -Thank God. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
-You prayed. -I did. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
That went as most of them do go, they hang on bits of evidence. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
And in this case I happen to agree with the chief adjudicator | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
that the picture we provided is not that clear. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Amazing, amazing, amazing. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
It needs to happen, though. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
I can only hope other people have the courage, you know, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
of their conviction to appeal. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
In West Bromwich, the battle is still raging | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
for parking spaces on the streets around the new police station. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
There's a lady's dropped kerb here. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
Now, there was somebody parked across it | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
and we fetched the police officers out, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
and they was told they've got no rights to move them. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
They was blocked in, and they worked at the hospital. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
They had to leave the car and walk in to work. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Peter Thomas's hairdressing salon is in the eye of the storm. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
I spent a quarter of a million pound on this. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Took lots of risks. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
This was derelict for 18 years, and I've given 19 people jobs. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
It affects people passing through | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
who think they'll just stop off and get their hair cut - | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
can't park, so they carry on. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
The way we're going at the minute, you know, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
the business is just folding | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
and a lot of people are going to be out of work. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
I mean, at the moment, all we're hearing is it's going to be permits. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
Well, if it's permits, my staff can't park outside. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
For the scheme to go ahead, more than 50% of the residents | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
on each street will have to vote for it. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
I cannot see another way. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
It's a very old town, we've got old terraced houses, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
there is no excess land anywhere to facilitate. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
The only way we will remove them is by introducing this restriction. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
The council have sent people letters | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
about having a residents' scheme put in. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
We're knocking the doors, checking that they've had the forms, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
if they haven't had the forms we're giving them another one. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
If you just read it, if the scheme goes ahead... | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Have a read of it. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
Oh. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
You are seeing democracy in its best form. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Obviously, you can't force forms on people. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
-Have you actually filled a form in? -No. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
No. Do you want to fill one in now while I wait? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
-Oh, a parking permit form? -Yeah. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:22 | |
Yeah, I have, actually. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
-You've filled one in. Have you handed it back? -Yeah, last week. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
If they vote for the scheme, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
residents will have CEOs patrolling their streets. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
The arrival of new CEOs in Selby is upsetting the locals | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
and now threatens one of its long-standing trades. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
I got a ticket on my car, didn't I? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Cos I come to pick t' kiosk up as usual. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Doubtfire's ice cream van has been a Selby institution for over 70 years. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
Every afternoon, the owners pull up on the yellow line | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
to tow the kiosk away and have never had a problem - until now. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
Traffic warden come and told me that once the kiosk is hooked on | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
then you can't serve, so if anybody's stood there waiting to be served, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
you've just got to refuse them, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
and he says, "If you don't go, I'll give you a ticket." | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
So he give me a ticket. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
Me daughter just paid it, like. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
And I say, it's her business, like, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
now I just come to pick it up for her and that. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
And like I say, she just paid it. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
Save any aggro. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
What will happen if you can't trade here any more, then? | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
What, if we couldn't trade here any more? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Well, she'd just lose her business, wouldn't she? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
She'd have to shut down. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
But one Selby resident isn't taking her PCN lying down. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Louise Gomerson got a ticket | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
on the very first day of new council enforcement. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
I'm a homeowner, I have a car, I want to park outside my own house. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
I don't really think it's too much to ask, to be honest. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
Louise's street has a single yellow line down it. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
But until the new CEOs showed up, she'd been parking on it regularly. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
I noticed at the end of March that there was the broken yellow line, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
so, basically, because I knew that it invalidated restrictions | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
on the street, I took advantage of being able to park outside my house. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
This is the line here. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
I mean, it's over a metre - it's over a metre wide. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
I parked literally from the end of March | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
up until getting the parking ticket on the 1st of June. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
Louise was told by the old wardens | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
that a broken line invalidates the restriction, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
so she's decided to appeal her ticket | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
and strike a blow against the new enforcers. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Nine out of ten people would probably just pay it | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
because they just think, "What's the point in appealing it?" | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Whereas I'm different. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
It's a bit of a long-standing joke at work, to be honest. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
I think they do think I'm nuts, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
but then anybody that meets me think I'm nuts anyway. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
But that's... That's just my personality! | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
While the PCN count is mounting up in Selby, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
in Westminster, the council are trying out an approach | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
which involves them giving out fewer tickets. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
The bay's suspended at the moment, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
so I'm asking you to move on, OK? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
But the marshals can only move cars along if they have drivers in them. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
Mohammed's come across a scooter left parked in a suspended bay. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
Check on that. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
PCN's been issued...early morning. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
How come you give ticket? | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
-You all right, sir? -Because nothing there in the morning. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
They don't close here in the morning when I park my bike. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
This time plate has been up here since yesterday. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
No, I didn't see it this morning. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
It was not in this morning when I come out, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
I come in this morning to work. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Sir, the suspension has been up here yesterday, I was on duty yesterday. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
I've checked, the suspension was up here. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-I'm afraid not. This was not there yesterday. -Furthermore... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
If it's here, I would not park it there. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:52 | |
Barriers, the barriers are nothing to do with us, Westminster. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
That one is not there. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
The barriers haven't come from Parking Services. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
-That one as well is not there. This one. -If you listen to me, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
as the PCN stands from here, the PCN does stand valid. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
It's down to you now, sir, to write in to the council, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
contest the ticket if you feel that you have a grounds of appeal. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
OK. Is that good? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
OK, thank you very much, sir. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
I start to pay a year parking, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
so today council give me a ticket for no reason. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
I don't understand. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
That suspension was up yesterday. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
That other gentleman was saying it wasn't. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
You saw it? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
Yeah, we saw it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
We understand that when drivers are angry, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
they're not angry at me personally. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
They're angry simply on the situation. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
None. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Even though the marshals give out fewer tickets than CEOs, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
convincing the public they're different isn't easy. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
They will say anything they want to you. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
They will do anything they want to you. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
Touch your hat. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Some people, they will take these and go. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
Marshal or no marshal, they are there to nick you anyway. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
It doesn't matter what you do or what you tell them. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
No matter where they're from, what they've done in their life, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
they are all one robot, all the same. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
-You just got here? -I just got here. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-When? -Pardon? -When? -Now. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
OK. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
It will tell us. Don't worry. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
We hate him, we hate this traffic warden. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Hello. Mister. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Mr Traffic Warden. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
You know, if you are civilised, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
you will not tell somebody that "I hate you." | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
That is it. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Bailiff Debbie has pulled over another car | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
at the roadside operation in Croydon. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
The policemen are coming over now, right, for this Audi. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
Yeah, OK, right, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
you've got two nonpayment of parking fines on this vehicle. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
-No. -All right. OK. You've been parking illegally. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
The Polish driver speaks very little English. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
He gets his wife on the phone to act as interpreter. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
Hello. Hello? | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
Hi, right. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
The gentleman's got two payments - two nonpayment of parking fines | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
due to Croydon Council. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
But according to them, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
they've already paid a parking debt to a different bailiff company. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
-Yeah, well, just wait... -Yesterday, this evening... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
When... Did the bailiffs come round yesterday, did you say? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
Right. OK. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:41 | |
And did they give you any paperwork, have you made any payments to them? | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
He paid on Friday to another bailiff company. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
He was charged £700-odd. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
700 quid. That's... | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
Yeah, but you don't know what... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
how many times they've been out or anything else like that, do you? | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
And they clamped it. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
But we're just trying to get this all confirmed | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
with the council before we let him go. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
How does a ticket get to £700? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
It's different charges. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Obviously, I can't comment on what another bailiff company charges. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
We have set figures in our company. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
Obviously, once the new legislations come in in April next year, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
we're all going to have to charge the same, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
so it'll make life easier for everybody then. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
Word comes through that they've only paid off one of the parking tickets. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
It's news to the driver. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
At the moment, the outstanding debt is £523.84 that needs to be paid. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
-No! -Yeah. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
She paid it. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
She's paid one. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
You had two and they should have both been paid. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
523.84. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
Reluctantly, the driver decides to pay up - | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
half in cash, half on a card. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
Thank you. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
You've got to comply with the rules. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
And if he's over here working and he's living here | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
then he needs to understand that if you get a parking fine, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
you've got to pay them. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
The mini-cab driver's back from the bank. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
He's counting his cash. What a good payday for him. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
I borrowed it off my father-in-law, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
hopefully I'll be able to pay him back once I get to work. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
So...the system's a bit messed up. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
There's no consideration or understanding. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
Just take your heart out and just leave it at home | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
and just come to work. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
In Selby, the rift between locals and parking enforcers is deepening. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:48 | |
I'm going to get my paper. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
It's two and a half months since the new CEOs arrived. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
They've got some figures on the parking for last year | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
as opposed to when the police were doing it | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
to this year, when North Yorkshire County Council | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
and Harrogate are doing it, and they're interesting figures. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
-How are you? -Fine, thanks, how are you? | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
Yeah, good, thank you. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:12 | |
Are you keeping busy? | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
So-so. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:15 | |
The whole town's reading the newspaper. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
It's just an outrage, isn't it? Complete... | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
They're just out to kill the trade in every angle they can. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
"Anger as parking fines are increased five-fold." | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
I never did the maths on that. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
693 tickets as opposed to 141 last year. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:45 | |
That is disgusting. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
And I think I've got a quote in here somewhere - | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
"Richard Schofield, town centre manager for Selby Chamber | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
"and owner of Gowthorpe's Heaven and Home, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
"said the increase has confirmed his worst fears. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
"'This is a disgrace,' he said." | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
The ice cream van's made it in to the paper too. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
"Recently received a ticket, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
"it is not the van itself that attracts the ticket, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
"but the car that comes to tow it." | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
Unbelievable, isn't it? | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
But that was there when Katrina was a kid. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
I used to buy Katrina an ice cream from there. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
She's in her 20s now. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
That's how long it's been there. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
The council argues that if you comply with parking regulations, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
you don't get a ticket. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
But Richard's fearful for the future of the town. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
If things continue as they are, to be brutally honest, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
I think I'd struggle to make another couple of years. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
That'll be it. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
It'll all be over then, be the end of the dream, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
the end of the vision, it'll be end of everything. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
It'll be particularly upsetting. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
I don't like to think about it, really. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
It'll be a great sadness. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
For one Selby resident, it's crunch time. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
Louise Gomerson's appeal hearing has come up. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
I've got a point to prove and, you know, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
you've got to fight your cause | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
because if they continue to get away with issuing tickets like they are | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
then Selby's just going to be more of a ghost town than what it already is. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Thank you. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Are you all right? | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
I'm fine. Do sit down. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Shake hands. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
Louise is appealing a PCN she received outside her house. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
The reason I did park there on that particular day | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
was because there is a broken yellow line. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
A few years previous, I was issued with a ticket | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
when the police were issuing tickets in Selby, and I appealed it, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:53 | |
and they withdrew the ticket because when it's a broken yellow line, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
unless there's a T-bar on the end, it invalidates the restriction. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
How long ago was that? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:02 | |
-Oh, probably about two or three years, at a guess. -Yes. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
I thought you were supposed to trust what the police tell you, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
so what they've told me, I, you know, believed it to be true. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:14 | |
-There is the gap, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
-I actually... -Which is what? | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
-About... -It's probably about just over a metre wide, I would say. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Just over a metre, that's what I judged it. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
And it's quite a long way further up the street, isn't it? | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
-It is, but to my under... -About 50 metres or so? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
Caroline's seen all the correspondence Louise | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
has sent to the council. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
You did suggest to the council | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
that perhaps they should train everybody up | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
-to your version of events. -Yeah, I was pretty mad at the time, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-so maybe it was something I shouldn't have said... -Yes. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
But it was, you know, heat of the moment. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
Since Louise's previous ticket was cancelled, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
the Court of Appeal has clarified the law on broken lines. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
Now, obviously, if you're parked very near to the defect | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
and there's some confusion as to what applies, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
then that's a valid argument. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
But if the defect is far away from the car, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
then it doesn't invalidate it. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
I'm going to have to dismiss your appeal | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
because your car was parked in contravention of the traffic order. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
All right? So I hope that's cleared it up for you. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
You said the law was hazy at one point, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
and it is now very clear and that is the clarity of it. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
What happens now, then? | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
I'm afraid you're going to have to pay the penalty charge notice. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
-Right, the lower amount? -No, I'm afraid not. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
They gave you an opportunity to do that, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
and they did explain and you didn't take advantage of that, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
so it's now the full penalty charge of £70. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
-All right? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
Oh... | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
Like, I'm probably silly getting upset about it, | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
but I just feel that I've wasted my time. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
At the end of the day, you kind of can't give up the fight, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
but at the same time I don't really want to get any more parking tickets. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
With regards to Selby, the problems still continue. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
Until they become a little bit more lenient | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
with how they issue tickets and stuff like that, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
then the problem is still going to be there | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
and Selby's just going to continue to go downhill, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
which is not what we want for our town. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
We want better for our town. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
Back in Westminster, Mohammed is checking on some pay by phone bays. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
He's come across a car that's gone over time. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
I'll just double check it again | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
and continue to issue him with a penalty. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
It's an instant PCN, since the driver must have received a text message. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:54 | |
-That's my car. -Hello, sir. | 0:51:58 | 0:51:59 | |
-Is it too late? -Yes, it is, sir. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
Oh, never mind. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:02 | |
Forgot the alarm. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
Just a minute, sir. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
You seem very sanguine about the fact... | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
No, no, no, it's my fault. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
It is what it is. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:20 | |
You know, I came late and I ought to pay. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
A citizen who is happy to pay up. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
That's refreshing. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
This is what I love about London - actually, I'm very serious. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
It's painful when it happens to you, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
but at least people respect traffic and they park well. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
In Paris, it's a nightmare because there's no ticket, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
there's no law enforcement, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
and when it happens, I think it's like £20, so nobody cares. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
I'm much happier about the system here. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
-Thank you. -Good luck. -Thank you. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
And he has a tough job. Like, his job is the toughest one I know | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
-because nobody loves you. -Thank you. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
I appreciate your understanding. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
No problem. Take care. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
Westminster are so pleased with the outcome of the marshalling trial, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
they've decided to roll it out across the Borough. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
As he was saying, traffic down there is chaos, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
whereas here we have control of our traffic, you know? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
And, yes - you can clearly see he appreciates that. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
The results of the West Bromwich residents' parking vote are in, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
and Kira Fleck presents them to her boss. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
This is the whole area that we identified that has been affected | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
because of the police station. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
So the green are in favour | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
-and the red are against. -Green are in favour, yes. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
At the moment, Oak Road comes out | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
as in favour of having a resident parking scheme. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
It's over 50%. But none of the others do. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
What it will do is, by putting a scheme there, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
it will still further push problems in Oak Lane, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
Lodge Road, Cambridge Street. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
It's surprising why they haven't agreed, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
because they've got a huge problem. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
In the meantime, since I spoke to you last, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
I have spoken to the chief superintendent of the police station | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
about the possibility of removing some of this green area | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
around the edge and replacing that with parking spaces. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
But you could get an awful lot of them right round the edge there | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
if some of that greenery was removed. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
We like to have the trees and the grass and the greenery where we can, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
but if we need parking spaces, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
that, realistically, to me, is more important. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
With the shape of the permit scheme decided, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
Kira's visiting residents to let them know. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
Whenever we actually propose any changes or any restrictions, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:48 | |
we are required by law to put notices in the area, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
and as you can see on this lamp column, there is a notice. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Some of them may have been removed, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
somebody's tried to remove this one as well. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
In this day and age where we are making cutbacks | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
and we haven't got sufficient staff, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
I think the bit about talking to the people and the community out there | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
is sort of going by the wayside, and we need to make more effort. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:55:16 | 0:55:17 | |
Hello, little one, and what's your name? | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
-Alfie. -Alfie. -It's all right, Alfie. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
He was attacked last week, so be careful, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
-because he might be a bit... -Oh, oh, OK. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
Hello, Alfie. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
-How are you, anyway? -Come in. Oh, I'm all right. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
You're all right? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:30 | |
-Parking, the scheme. -Oh, yes. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
-We're only doing it Oak Road. -Oak Road. Yeah. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
We're doing it... Well, we're proposing it for there | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
and hopefully people will be happy, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
because the majority have asked for it. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
All the residents in the area have received letters | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
telling them the result. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
Nav lives on Oak Road. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
It was good. I mean, we was overjoyed. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
The way we look at it, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
I think anything just to get away from the nightmare of the parking. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
And if that means we have to pay something towards that now, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
you know, we'll have to do it. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
Alan and Joan live on a street | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
that didn't vote in favour of the permits. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
So things are only going to get worse for them. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
Well, I wanted to, but as the wife says, we pay tax, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
we pay insurance, and even if they put one on, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
-you still wouldn't be guaranteed a parking space. -A parking space. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
The council have made it quite plain that that's what they want doing. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
And they'll do it, whether you want it or not, it'll be... | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
And you can take it to court. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:32 | |
It won't make any difference | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
because they've got more money than what we've got. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
Hiya. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
Last time I came here, you wanted to chop my hair off, I remember that. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
Wherever we put a resident parking scheme, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
if there is any property that is right on the junction | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
and there's restrictions there, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
we will include them in the residents' scheme. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
Obviously, you would have to buy business permits, | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
but it is at a far less cost | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
than individuals who would have to park in the town centre. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
-That is no good for me. -No, no, we were going... | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
You get ladies in with perms and colours. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
-We've looked at your hairdressing... -You've looked at it? -I have. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
I have one priority. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:12 | |
Business permits will allow Peter's staff to park, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
but Kira's also allowed some free parking for his customers. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
-We have put two hours, no return within three. -Right. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
That allows people to go in and... | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
Yeah, that's better, thanks. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
Are you OK with that explanation? | 0:57:26 | 0:57:27 | |
Yeah, as long as we can get something sorted... | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
Yeah, we'll sort it, we'll get there. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
Everybody will be happy. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
-OK, you take care. -Thank you very much. -Take care. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
It's human nature to find a place where they don't have to pay. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
Space everywhere now is a commodity and we have to manage it. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
Next time... | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
It's full up down there. Full. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
..a seaside town buckles under the weight of tourists... | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
We've got a board that says "car park full", | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
and they drive round it. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:00 | |
..parking enforcement upsets the locals... | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
You take my car in front of me! How do you sleep at night? | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
-I'm sorry... -Have you got children, have you got a mother, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
have you got a wife? | 0:58:11 | 0:58:12 | |
..and a £30 parking ticket ends in arrest. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
-Stop resisting. -Take your hands away. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
Take your hands away now. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 |