Sex and the Sitcom


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This programme contains some strong language.

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For 50 years, sex has defined the British sitcom, as much by its absence as its presence.

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People who have good sex lives aren't comedy writers.

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For 50 years, sitcom man has loved, lusted and usually lost out.

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We could see the depiction of sex in the British sitcom as highly tragic throughout,

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and yet we're happy to laugh about that.

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So, how has sitcom reflected Britain's changing sexual mores?

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Nowadays, there seems to be very little limit

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as to how far you can go.

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How has sitcom woman responded to the sexual revolution?

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She wanted more excitement in her life,

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which she didn't really get from her husband.

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She took what she wanted, when she wanted it. She just wants men.

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Have we finally conquered our inhibitions?

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Or will our attitude to sex always be laughable?

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Cor!

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This programme contains some strong language.

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The heroes of British sitcom come in all shapes and sizes,

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but we've had more loveable losers than Lotharios,

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more mummies' boys than ladies' men.

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I've learned a lot about sex from sitcoms.

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I've learned that it's wrong,

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I've learned that it's grubby

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and that it's not going to happen to you.

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This is a journey into frustration.

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Censorship and scheduling have helped emasculate sitcom man,

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but the malaise runs deeper,

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to the heart of our comic sensibility

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and to the birth of the genre.

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In Britain, when we finally cracked sitcom in '56

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with Hancock's Half Hour,

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what you're looking at is a comedy of desperation, really.

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We dealt with losers,

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we dealt with people whose lives were flawed.

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I think it was the same with their sex lives - their sex lives were flawed.

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So the comedy came out of them not getting any sex,

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not getting any action.

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-Have you ever been married?

-No.

-Engaged?

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-No.

-Regular girlfriends?

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-No.

-Casual girlfriends?

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No.

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-Do you like women?

-Yes.

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The scene in The Ladies Man

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where he's being asked for a description of himself

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and he's reeling off all these terrible qualities.

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That sums up what Hancock was like

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and that sums up the type of character that we've had in sitcoms

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over the last few decades.

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Can you interest women conversationally?

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No.

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Can you amuse them?

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No.

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Captain Mainwaring, or Basil Fawlty, or David Brent,

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they're all flawed, imperfect human beings

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and you wonder if they can form a relationship.

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-Do they laugh at you?

-Yes!

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-In which way?

-In the worst possible way!

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And the more things changed,

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the more things stayed the same.

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The Swinging Sixties were a time of liberation,

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experimentation and free love...

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but not on Sitcom Street.

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It is fashionable to regard the '60s

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as a period when, quote, "It all hung out",

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which always sounds dreadfully uncomfortable to me!

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But, actually, I think it takes the better part of the decade

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to trickle down to people who are not living in metropolitan London,

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who don't have jobs of choice, who aren't uniquely beautiful.

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Just because a bloke in West London

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is having sex with his hippy girlfriend and smoking dope

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doesn't mean someone at TV Centre is going to slap this on our screens.

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Things move slowly - or they did then.

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Mostly, comedy deals with suburban life more than urban life.

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There was a show called Meet The Wife

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with Thora Hird and Freddie Frinton.

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A northern couple, entirely benign.

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Sex, I don't think, was even alluded to in any way, shape or form,

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let alone shown and/or done.

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Occasionally it's called "it", I seem to remember.

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-Here's your cocoa.

-Oh, thanks, Freddie.

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Or there was a show called All Gas And Gaiters...

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Four men in a bishopric, as it were.

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Sex, as far as I remember, is never alluded to,

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except as a kind of, "It's a temptation and I must avoid it".

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In fact, a battle was raging for the very soul of television.

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We saw a programme that started at 6.35

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and it was the dirtiest programme

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that I have seen for a very long time.

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But, for now, sitcom sat on the sidelines.

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The more serious dramas, the Armchair Theatres, the Wednesday Plays -

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sex is part and parcel of the subjects they tackled.

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But sitcom is always considered to be more family orientated,

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it's more about getting the people together to watch it.

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Most comedies played early evening for a family audience

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and that was who you were appealing to.

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The late night satire shows

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could afford to take more risks,

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but even here the "it" word dare not speak its name.

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I started with That Was The Week That Was

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and I did a sketch in which Lance Percival was the driver

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and Millicent Martin was the engine of the car

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and everything was a sexual innuendo.

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Change gear.

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Horn.

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HORN HONKS

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Oh, I like that!

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Innuendo would be sitcom's shorthand for sex

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for the next 20 years.

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I'm not sure why we, as a nation,

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like innuendo so much.

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For me, there's a sort of familiarity with it.

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There's this sort of comfort blanket feeling to it

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that reminds me of the Carry On films

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and the comedies that I loved, growing up.

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Try another double bend!

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Kinky...

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People from other countries

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see innuendo as something that the British do all the time,

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on television and in film, in a sitcom,

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but also just in everyday lives.

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It's one of the ways in which we talk.

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-I'm not stopping.

-What are you doing?

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-Reversing.

-Pervert!

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But in 1965,

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one writer did engage directly with the sexual revolution

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and put sitcom on the front line.

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Till Death Us Do Part is perhaps the first adult sitcom.

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Johnny Speight's scripts looked at politics,

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perhaps immigration and, inevitably, sex.

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I think the people who complain about sex are the ones who aren't getting enough.

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The ones who are getting their share have no complaints,

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quite satisfied, well happy.

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Till Death Us Do Part addressed the growing generation gap

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in our attitudes to sex.

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Alf Garnett has this daughter who's young and hip and swinging,

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he has the randy Scouse git.

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From the writer's point of view,

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over there, young people are living a fantastic sexual life.

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We was decent brought up, we was, me and your mum.

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I mean I never... Well...

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In an episode entitled Sex Before Marriage,

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the older Garnetts come out foursquare

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against sex before marriage,

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thinking it should be something that should only be kept within the marriage vows.

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I mean, I never attempted to touch your mother...

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until after we was married.

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WELL after.

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Alf Garnett, I don't think he gets his share of sex scenes at all.

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Actually, I would love to be able to do a show with him in bed

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trying to have it away with the missus.

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That could be hysterical, I think, very funny.

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Look, you want to read something, sonny.

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You want to read something a bit edifying,

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-something a bit educative.

-Educative?

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By making Alf a spokesman for Britain's moral majority,

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Speight subverted sitcom's conservatism.

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Mrs Whitehouse, innit?

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Mrs Mary Whitehouse!

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Say, a programme like Till Death Us Do Part...

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Brilliantly funny, brilliantly written.

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But you see, he was the one that stood for moral values,

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but he was the one

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people were supposed to feel a great dislike for.

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That woman is concerned

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for the moral welfare of your country, isn't she?

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The moral fibre that's being rotted away by your corrupt television.

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But the advances of the '60s could no longer be ignored,

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and one advance in particular...

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The day is printed by the side of every pill,

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and providing she can remember what day it is,

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a woman can be sure whether or not she has taken today's pill.

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I think the impact of the pill was

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that for the first time in your life as a woman,

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if you were taking it regularly and weren't one of the minority

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who had a terrible time with it,

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you actually had unalloyed pleasure without guilt.

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And I happen to think that was very important.

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The pill would change the dynamic of sitcom relationships forever.

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British sitcoms before the advent of the pill,

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are entirely male-centric.

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The male character is the lead key,

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women are right at the edge.

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They're people who tell him what to do, they're objects of lust,

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but we see it entirely from his point of view. It's always him.

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You can see things changing towards the end of the '60s and early '70s.

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It's Awfully Bad For Your Eyes, Darling

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is a show which puts women together in a flat-share.

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These women seem more adult with their attitudes towards sex.

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It is the permissive age and this is one of the first shows to exploit that freedom.

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The librarian wishes to remind you that the following books are now overdue.

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Portnoy's Complaint, Lady Chatterley's Lover,

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The Sensuous Woman and The Kinsey Report.

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I remember that last one.

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It said that married couples do it 2.8 times a week.

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I wonder what they do on the 0.8 occasion?

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'It's Awfully Bad For Your Eyes, Darling was co-written by Jilly Cooper.

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'Joanna Lumley is one of the stars and she's exploited'

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by wearing very few clothes throughout the entire surviving episode,

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which I think is something they did on purpose.

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How do you do?

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How do you do?

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Would you like to see something else?

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-Something else?

-Well, I could show you if you liked.

-Yes...

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'Perhaps they just wanted to show these women were less self-conscious'

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and perhaps were at home with the attractiveness of their body.

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As the pill and sexual liberation free women up

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to take control of making stuff and doing stuff, women are going,

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"We'll make the TV programmes and this is what's funny."

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What have you got there?

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-Sex in the Sev...

-Sssh!

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Sex In The '70s.

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Trust you!

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Liver Birds was a bit risque, they thought.

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Sometimes I tried to be risque.

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Go on, phone him.

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After all, you've got nothing to lose.

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You cheeky cow!

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'There were sexual references'

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and we did have lots of boyfriends,

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but you couldn't really go into it in detail

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or we'd be a couple of slags, wouldn't we, you know?

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I did enjoy the steak.

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I did enjoy the wine...

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They were naughty girls who lead men on

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and then, you know... don't give them satisfaction.

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So, what's for afters?

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I mean, no! No, Aubrey, we hardly know each other!

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It did have an innocence about it, which I wouldn't write now

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because it doesn't exist, either in me or the world.

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But there was an innocence in the world, then.

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But by the early '70s,

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innocence was under attack

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and the pace of change bewildering.

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Have we become a more civilized society with less hypocrisy, intolerance and repressiveness?

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Or have we become less civilized,

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with moral standards undermined and young people confused?

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-Beryl, we live in a permissive society.

-Not on this street, we don't!

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-Everybody's at it!

-Not with me, they're not.

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Sex, detached from its purpose, which is procreation,

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and its condition, which is love,

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is a very horrible thing.

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-All girls are supposed to be crying out for it!

-Not this one, Geoffrey. I'm the silent majority.

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I don't believe that sex should be restricted entirely to procreation.

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Sex is one of the few pleasures...

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that practically everyone can indulge in.

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If Britain was confused, so too were its sitcoms.

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The Permissive Society has its tentacles into comedy

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so that characters used the Swinging Sixties

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or the permissive society as a sort of excuse

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in trying to court a girl, or the other way round.

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As a sort of, "Oh, come on. We're allowed to do this stuff now."

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It's only manners, Beryl.

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Total strangers do it now instead of shaking hands!

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The Permissive Society was now a hot topic

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in the most traditional sitcoms.

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What are you talking about?

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You don't think I'm looking forward to this orgy tonight, do you?

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You have talked about nothing else for the past fortnight.

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I've been trying to convince myself.

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Oh, Terry!

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You arranged it - you and Bernie.

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Enid and I would rather that you took us to the pictures.

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You have been stocking up the drinks cupboard all week,

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you have filled the house with cheese straws!

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But our response to the sexual revolution

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got tangled up in sitcom's other obsession - social class.

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We've got company.

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Have we? Who?

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Joyce and Edna, they're coming with us. Sort of training.

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They're thinking of issuing them with new equipment.

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I don't see why. Their old equipment looks good enough to me!

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While the permissive society was agonized over in the suburbs,

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over on ITV, blokes were just getting on with "it".

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For some reason ITV was much more interested in shagging and nooky,

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whereas the BBC wasn't. The BBC didn't like to talk about it.

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But ITV, probably because it had a more working-class demographic,

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found it funnier.

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The inside of the bus is my pitch, you've got the cab!

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What could I do inside a cab?

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Well, use your imagination!

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Phwoar!

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1970s shows like On The Buses, like The Dustmen,

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all these shows were unashamedly

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about men who liked drinking and having it off.

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But the permissive society was middle class.

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It was Alan Bennett and Malcolm Bradbury writing about lecturers committing adultery

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and smoking pipes at the same time.

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You could only have sex with a woman if you'd read the Guardian,

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whereas on ITV you could only have sex with a woman if you'd eaten some chips.

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But when sex finally arrived in the suburbs...

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Bye, darling.

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..it caused a scandal.

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In most sitcoms the guy is a loser.

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If he's trying to get a woman he probably doesn't succeed, because that's where the comedy is.

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But then when you take a Lothario head-on,

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when you take someone who's got a recognizable, successful thing -

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as they did with Leslie Phillips in Casanova '73 -

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this was actually a new departure.

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He had a slight eye for the girls, if you know what I mean.

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I wouldn't have thought he was a libertine, exactly.

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He was a bit naughty...

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But no naughtier than most men I know!

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Here you've got someone who's a suave talker, who cheats on his wife all the time,

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who tries to have affairs with every woman going.

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It often gets him into bigger trouble,

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but what it was showing was someone that was quite comfortable with sex.

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We'll see what happens at the interview.

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How about tonight, six o'clock?

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Is six o'clock all right for you?

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Well, no, not at the office. No, no.

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Do you happen to know The Ding-a-Ling Club?

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It was as much the fault of the ladies he picked up as his,

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because they picked him up as well,

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but they didn't worry about that side.

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I've always heard about you. All the women you've had -

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I used to lean over the banisters and hear them talk.

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The biggest lecher in Esher.

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Am I really?

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Now it would probably be the wife who's having the affairs

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and the husband trying to sort it out.

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Please. I'll be eternally grateful to you. Please!

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Well, if I can help somebody as I pass along...

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'Casanova '73 broke the first commandment of sitcom -

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'thou shall not shag.'

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Here beginneth the first lesson.

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It lost its prime-time slot after just three episodes.

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There was a particular woman who used to shout and scream.

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Mary Whitehouse, that was it.

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She used to scream if anything was remotely naughty.

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I think shows like Casanova '73 become controversial

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simply because people aren't used to that openness about sex.

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Television's taken a long time to get there.

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It was just the wrong time,

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when they had rules that they no longer have now.

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Now, please, look, Tessa...

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Ooh, I've got the cramp. Ooh!

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'I suppose we've all grown up, or something, I don't know.'

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But nowadays, there seems to be very little limit

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as to how far you can go.

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But for now, sitcom had learnt its lesson,

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retreating into the world of the double entendre,

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where nothing was quite what it seemed.

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If you liked innuendo,

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the '70s sitcom would give you one.

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Let me proffer you a little dinky-donks.

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-Oh, no...

-Dinky-dinky doo-dah! Come along.

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Oh, all right then, if it will give you pleasure.

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Yeah, that's the general idea.

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Writing for Frankie Howerd, you sort of had to write it the way that he wanted it

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and I could only do it out loud, funnily enough, which could cause great embarrassments to my family.

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So I once went out and was doing it on the common outside my house

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where three policemen came up to me and thought I was a lunatic.

0:18:040:18:07

"Ode to Ambrosia.

0:18:070:18:09

"I love to kiss her golden hair

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"She sets me writing ditties..."

0:18:120:18:15

Get ready, get ready!

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He had a very, very unique sense of humour

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that was, at its heart, suggestive.

0:18:220:18:25

"But most of all I love to roam

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"Around her ample...

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"country estate."

0:18:330:18:35

Up Pompeii was very formative for me,

0:18:350:18:37

cos it was just very freewheeling

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and although it was, I gather, tightly scripted

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and incredibly controlled, in fact,

0:18:420:18:44

it looked like a bit of a cabaret, in which cleavaged women bounced around

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and then bounced off again.

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Actually, it's become a matter of some urgency.

0:18:510:18:53

Has it?

0:18:530:18:55

Don't worry, dear, I shan't keep you long.

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I watched it again recently and it is a beautifully controlled piece of writing.

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But sex is very much at the heart of it.

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And even though - or perhaps because -

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Frankie Howerd, as we know now, was gay,

0:19:070:19:09

and the last person to be leching after these toga-clad women.

0:19:090:19:15

Frankie Howerd's whole act was sort of based on a fictional sexuality.

0:19:150:19:21

What?

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He was almost the walking embodiment of the double entendre

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and he just played it for all it was worth.

0:19:270:19:29

Oh, bottoms up!

0:19:290:19:31

Ooh, definitely, as soon as I get back!

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Sex was doomed to repeat itself,

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first as farce, then as tragedy.

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'70s sitcom was one long winter of discontent

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for men and women, inside the canon and out.

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In George and Mildred, they flip it.

0:19:480:19:50

In a way, the jokes are the same, but the clever thing they do

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is it's Mildred who has the desires.

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She is a woman who wants to live

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a full sexual life, and her husband is

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terrified of sexuality, terrified of HER sexuality in particular.

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Yootha Joyce just wasn't the most beautiful woman in the world,

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but she was very attractive and very striking and very strong.

0:20:100:20:13

She was always a very strong woman.

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You always felt like she was in control. You would have the very frequent bedroom scenes where

0:20:150:20:19

they'd be switching the lights off to go to sleep

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and Mildred's quite horny and George just wants to go to sleep.

0:20:230:20:27

Thanks to the sexual revolution,

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we women were now free to be just as frustrated as the men.

0:20:300:20:34

-Hello, George...

-Oh, you're still awake?

0:20:340:20:37

-I'm afraid so, yes.

-Oh, Gawd.

0:20:370:20:41

I don't know whether she struck a chord with middle-aged women

0:20:410:20:44

up and down the country, but her sort of iconic sexual frustration

0:20:440:20:50

was very sort of touching, but it was quite relentless

0:20:500:20:53

and quite sort of broad.

0:20:530:20:54

They won't have a very comfortable night in this single bed.

0:20:540:20:58

-Oh, they're not going to sleep here, George. No, they're sleeping in our bedroom.

-What for?

0:20:580:21:02

-Well, because I'm not having her sneering at this one.

-Well, where are we supposed to...

0:21:020:21:06

Oh, no, no, no!

0:21:060:21:08

Yes, George.

0:21:080:21:10

No. I mean, we'll be squashed up against each other.

0:21:100:21:16

Yes, George.

0:21:160:21:19

The thought that they had to share a bed - and I think, as he says in

0:21:190:21:22

the scene, "But we might touch each other, we might accidentally touch"

0:21:220:21:26

the awkwardness just sort of sends shivers down my spine.

0:21:260:21:29

But it's a brilliantly done scene, and the dynamic with their relationship is quite subversive.

0:21:290:21:36

It IS legal, George. I mean, we are married.

0:21:360:21:39

Yeah, I know, but it's your nylon nightie, see.

0:21:390:21:42

-It gives me electric shocks.

-I'll take it off.

0:21:420:21:44

No!

0:21:440:21:47

You can imagine a scene like that, if it was placed in a serious drama, being very tragic and being a very

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kind of serious revelation of a relationship which is in decline.

0:21:530:21:58

I tell you what, the caravan. Yeah, I'll sleep in the caravan.

0:21:580:22:01

-I'll sneak out there after they've gone to bed.

-Oh, George!

0:22:010:22:04

And this is one of the interesting things that sitcom can do,

0:22:040:22:08

that it'll point out things which, really, actually are very tragic.

0:22:080:22:11

But because those ideas are told in terms of comedy, for some reason

0:22:110:22:17

that's seen as more comfortable to audiences, and we don't necessarily see the tragedy that runs through it.

0:22:170:22:23

But we could see the history of the depiction of sex in the British sitcom

0:22:230:22:28

as one which is highly tragic throughout.

0:22:280:22:30

And yet we've been quite happy to laugh about that for the past fifty years.

0:22:300:22:35

Do you mind if I just check your paintwork while I'm here?

0:22:350:22:38

-I thought it might need another coat.

-It's had five already, Mr Rigsby.

0:22:380:22:42

I know, Miss Jones, but it's groaning for it.

0:22:420:22:46

Rising Damp's a lovely programme.

0:22:460:22:48

I mean, really, you can see that it was a play.

0:22:480:22:51

But it's got this fantastic, cramped little world,

0:22:510:22:54

which is straight out of Harold Pinter, of bedsitting rooms

0:22:540:22:59

and raggedy cardigans and unfulfilled desires.

0:22:590:23:02

At least they don't have to draw diagrams for us, Rigsby.

0:23:020:23:06

No-one has to tell us where the erogenous zones are.

0:23:060:23:09

-Huh. The what?

-The erogenous zones, Rigsby.

0:23:090:23:13

-Oh.

-He doesn't know where they are!

0:23:130:23:15

Well, of course I do. Well, they're near the equator, aren't they?

0:23:150:23:20

Rigsby wanted sex, really. He thought Miss Jones would give it to him.

0:23:200:23:24

And she wanted it, but she didn't want it from him, she wanted it from Phillip.

0:23:240:23:29

Phillip!

0:23:290:23:30

And he didn't want to give it to her.

0:23:300:23:32

Alan wanted it from everyone.

0:23:320:23:34

So, you know, there you go, that's what was swilling around underneath it all.

0:23:340:23:40

You take the ear. That's an erogenous zone.

0:23:400:23:42

You blow in Miss Jones's ear, and you'll be staggered at the results.

0:23:420:23:45

Now, you watch your tongue. This is a respectable house.

0:23:450:23:49

I mean, Rigsby is really up there with the Mainwarings and the Basil Fawltys.

0:23:490:23:53

And, I have to say, you know, the way Leonard Rossiter plays it is absolutely brilliant.

0:23:530:23:58

Where do I go wrong, Mr Rigsby?

0:23:580:23:59

Perhaps I should be more permissive.

0:23:590:24:02

-No.

-No, no, no.

0:24:020:24:04

No, no, you're an example to us all, Miss Jones, someone to look up to.

0:24:040:24:10

It was always radically unlikely that he was going to get off with Miss Jones.

0:24:100:24:13

You see, Miss Jones, there's no, er...

0:24:130:24:17

And he does it in such a terrible way, such an awkward way.

0:24:170:24:19

-In fact, the more sophisticated he tries to be, the more cack-handed he is.

-Is there a draft in here?

0:24:190:24:25

I don't think so, Miss Jones.

0:24:250:24:28

But that was the joy of it. He was just such a failed little man but also kind of a very British hero.

0:24:280:24:34

-Well, I'll be saying good night, then, Miss Jones.

-Good night, Mr Rigsby.

0:24:340:24:38

Rossiter would soon move out to the suburbs and to the BBC,

0:24:480:24:53

but sex would remain just a fantasy.

0:24:530:24:56

Oh, the thing about Reggie Perrin and sex is that because David Nobbs had written that show about a man

0:24:560:25:01

having a midlife crisis, which really chimed with people, and also because

0:25:010:25:05

the 1970s were Britain's midlife crisis, sex had to come into it.

0:25:050:25:09

Writing the book, which came before the series, I really was taken by the character of Joan.

0:25:090:25:14

And I thought everybody has their relationship with the secretary,

0:25:140:25:18

and Reggie being a sort of archetypal boss having a crisis, in a way, must go through that.

0:25:180:25:24

What's quite nice is that Leonard Rossiter wasn't having sex with Sally Thomsett, he was having sex,

0:25:240:25:28

or trying to have sex, with basically Audrey Roberts from Coronation Street.

0:25:280:25:33

I said I'm ready.

0:25:340:25:36

Ready for what?

0:25:380:25:39

My first day, it was only Leonard and myself, on that day, that were called.

0:25:390:25:44

To the chairman... Joan?

0:25:440:25:46

-Yes, Mr Perrin?

-You have lovely breasts.

0:25:460:25:48

Ooh!

0:25:480:25:50

And we journeyed to this field a bit out of London, and the location,

0:25:500:25:56

then it was all set up, and the next thing you know you're running towards each other and in huge clinches,

0:25:560:26:02

and he was on top of me and I was on top of him!

0:26:020:26:04

And that was my first meeting with Leonard. And lovely it was, too.

0:26:040:26:10

And I thought, "I'll take it a stage further. I'll actually get him to invite her home."

0:26:100:26:15

What is this crisis all about, Mr Perrin?

0:26:150:26:17

There is no crisis, Joan. I'm sorry.

0:26:170:26:19

I'm sorry. Forget it. I'm sorry.

0:26:190:26:21

I'm awfully sorry. No, I'm terribly sorry.

0:26:210:26:23

I shouldn't have...

0:26:230:26:26

I remember leading Reggie upstairs, and he came rather like a lamb to the slaughter, if I remember the scene.

0:26:260:26:33

His little shoulders went all hunched,

0:26:330:26:36

and it was like dragging a naughty schoolboy upstairs.

0:26:360:26:42

Rossiter lusts.

0:26:420:26:44

He lusts in Perrin, he lusts in...

0:26:440:26:47

Well, all his characters are lustful and yet at the same time convinced

0:26:470:26:51

that when things go wrong, they will desperately go wrong. So they have to disguise, they have to hide things.

0:26:510:26:56

He has to turn the Queen's portrait away, because he disapproves of what he's doing.

0:26:560:27:00

He dislikes his own lusts and his own desires.

0:27:000:27:03

I think he gets very frightened by what he's done.

0:27:030:27:06

I can't go through with this. Yes, you can. No, I can't.

0:27:060:27:09

Yes, you can! No, I'm sorry, I can't.

0:27:090:27:11

And the reality of it is not like the fantasy.

0:27:110:27:14

I think it's a fantasy that should have remained a fantasy to him as well as to us. I mean, we see those

0:27:140:27:21

famous fantasies when he's having sex on the desk,

0:27:210:27:23

but I think that's how he likes it, really.

0:27:230:27:26

And suddenly he realises, is this going to work in real life?

0:27:260:27:29

He's terribly relieved to have an excuse.

0:27:290:27:32

-DOORBELL RINGS

-Oh. Oh, hell. Oh, damn. What a shame.

0:27:320:27:35

Oh, just our luck, eh?

0:27:350:27:38

Oh, damn, damn, damn.

0:27:380:27:40

You don't have to answer it.

0:27:400:27:42

Er, no, no, but I better had. It might be somebody.

0:27:420:27:46

Reggie Perrin isn't that much about sex.

0:27:460:27:48

What's funny is the idea that this middle-aged, buttoned-up man

0:27:480:27:52

suddenly is overwhelmed by lust, and his lust is about as imaginary

0:27:520:27:56

as his hippopotamus-incarnated mother-in-law.

0:27:560:27:58

It's all in his head.

0:27:580:28:00

-These are the Seventies, aren't they, Percy?

-Yes.

-Yes, exactly.

0:28:000:28:04

But there was one practice that was guaranteed to raise a laugh.

0:28:040:28:08

Taboos are breaking down, certain practices once considered horrifying

0:28:080:28:13

are now de rigueur in certain circles, aren't they?

0:28:130:28:16

I had a moment in the first Reggie,

0:28:160:28:18

when Reggie is trying to destroy himself by being absurd,

0:28:180:28:22

when he pretends to be madly in love with one of his shop managers,

0:28:220:28:26

who returns the love, to Reggie's absolute horror.

0:28:260:28:29

I'm free any night next week.

0:28:290:28:31

Oh, my God! Oh, next week? No, next week's out of the question.

0:28:330:28:36

I think now that people would be just slightly worried that I was mocking homosexuality.

0:28:360:28:40

But if television got laughs from homosexuality, it was also uniquely placed to combat the prejudice.

0:28:400:28:46

Agony, the LWT show,

0:28:460:28:49

is a show that perhaps has been underwritten in the history of the sitcom,

0:28:490:28:52

but if you look at sex in particular, it's an important, pivotal show.

0:28:520:28:56

-Hello, Gary...

-Maureen Lipman is the star, an agony aunt

0:28:560:29:00

who talks candidly about sexual problems

0:29:000:29:02

but also it has this homosexual couple in it,

0:29:020:29:05

who aren't used for comedic value, who aren't there just to be camp and a laugh.

0:29:050:29:09

Let's begin at the beginning with Agony.

0:29:090:29:13

We needed somebody who was sweet and kind and normal.

0:29:130:29:16

It became the two gay boys.

0:29:160:29:19

How long has it been for you two?

0:29:190:29:21

It's three years today since you introduced us.

0:29:210:29:23

No! And are you still happily unmarried?

0:29:230:29:25

Made for each other. The only reason we row is because we enjoy kissing and making up.

0:29:250:29:29

The second thing that was interesting was,

0:29:290:29:31

the television company for which we worked had an extremely powerful

0:29:310:29:35

homosexual group in its management.

0:29:350:29:38

-Jane, if there's anything you want.

-Anything at all.

0:29:380:29:41

'We didn't overdo it, I don't think.'

0:29:410:29:44

But we did try to suggest you could only be frightened

0:29:440:29:47

of something you couldn't understand and these people

0:29:470:29:50

were infinitely understandable,

0:29:500:29:51

therefore you couldn't be frightened of them and you couldn't hate them.

0:29:510:29:54

As we entered a new decade, sex was back stalking the suburbs.

0:29:540:29:58

Carla Lane's Butterflies told the story of a woman

0:29:580:30:01

on the edge of an affair, and not just any woman!

0:30:010:30:03

I'd been doing a lot of comedy and decided I'd like more serious work,

0:30:030:30:09

but I wasn't getting offered

0:30:090:30:12

serious work, because I'd done 25 series of silly mums.

0:30:120:30:18

The thing about Rea was she was a dreamer and she wanted

0:30:180:30:24

more excitement in her life and she wanted a bit of romance,

0:30:240:30:27

which she didn't get from her husband.

0:30:270:30:29

Right, that's lunch finished.

0:30:290:30:31

I don't see how the word "finished" comes into it.

0:30:310:30:33

You whipped mine away as I was approaching my third chip.

0:30:330:30:36

Someone like Wendy Craig was this figure

0:30:360:30:38

who'd been in all these conventional sitcoms in the past,

0:30:380:30:41

the very traditional suburban domestic sitcoms.

0:30:410:30:43

And the idea she's going to play a woman having an illicit affair

0:30:430:30:47

and is not judged within the script, is really revolutionary.

0:30:470:30:50

I'm Leonard, by the way, Leonard Dunne.

0:30:500:30:53

I'm Rea Parkinson.

0:30:530:30:57

-Mrs Rea Parkinson.

-How do you do?

0:30:570:31:01

I took the idea to the BBC

0:31:010:31:02

and the Head of Comedy went pale and anxious,

0:31:020:31:05

practically collapsed, when I said I want to write about a woman

0:31:050:31:08

who has a good marriage, but she falls in love.

0:31:080:31:11

"Oh, we can't do that. Oh no, darling, that's for drama."

0:31:110:31:15

They first put it out on BBC Two.

0:31:150:31:17

Then when they realised people were not shocked

0:31:170:31:20

and writing to the papers

0:31:200:31:22

from Godalming, or somewhere, they said, "OK, let's put it on BBC One"

0:31:220:31:28

and it was away.

0:31:280:31:30

Rea, these are the 1980s!

0:31:300:31:32

Are they? Oh. Is there something special about that?

0:31:320:31:35

It's the age of freedom.

0:31:350:31:37

The age of not being scared of doing what you want to do.

0:31:370:31:41

'You can see that Rea is a character who's responding to the sexual revolution.'

0:31:410:31:45

You're going too fast.

0:31:450:31:48

She feels like she's missing out on something,

0:31:480:31:51

but she's not fully sure it's actually sex.

0:31:510:31:53

It's just another room.

0:31:530:31:56

'It's quite clear she still loves her husband,

0:31:560:31:59

'and her husband loves her.'

0:31:590:32:00

And there's lots of episodes where

0:32:000:32:03

they're attempting to work out how to communicate.

0:32:030:32:06

What happened?

0:32:060:32:08

The world happened.

0:32:080:32:10

So the problem she's got isn't necessarily with Ben, her husband,

0:32:100:32:14

or her children, it's that institution of marriage

0:32:140:32:17

and domesticity that destroys any kind of sexual relationship that most people have.

0:32:170:32:20

It's marriage that's the problem, not sex!

0:32:200:32:23

Much more special.

0:32:230:32:25

Rea wrestled with a dilemma, should she or shouldn't she?

0:32:250:32:29

You want to, don't you?

0:32:290:32:33

Yes, I want to!

0:32:330:32:38

The first sentence I wrote, I knew they must never go to bed, not ever.

0:32:380:32:44

What a shame, how cruel!

0:32:440:32:45

We never got to bed, did we?

0:32:450:32:49

No. No, we didn't.

0:32:510:32:57

But by now the cosy world of sitcom was under attack.

0:33:000:33:03

Old school innuendo was giving way to something franker,

0:33:030:33:06

and to a new generation, more honest.

0:33:060:33:08

There's an air of complacency about some forms of comedy,

0:33:080:33:13

just like there was in music.

0:33:130:33:15

So the punk revolution came along and changed music,

0:33:150:33:17

and the alternative comedy revolution came along,

0:33:170:33:20

both sides of the Atlantic, and changed the nature of comedy.

0:33:200:33:21

I'm not a virgin! I am not a virgin!

0:33:240:33:27

But by the time it reached television,

0:33:290:33:31

the attitudes of alternative comedy seemed strangely familiar.

0:33:310:33:34

All right, if I'm a virgin,

0:33:340:33:36

how come I know what a girl's bottom looks like?

0:33:360:33:39

From looking in the mirror.

0:33:400:33:42

The Young Ones employed cartoon violence and cartoon action

0:33:420:33:46

that you'd never find in The Good Life.

0:33:460:33:48

It kicked the form around, and it was probably a darn sight ruder.

0:33:480:33:52

Missed me, virgin!

0:33:520:33:56

But it wasn't, I don't think particularly groundbreaking

0:33:560:33:59

in its treatment of sex.

0:33:590:34:01

'The Rik Mayall character is about, again, the recurring theme of male sexual frustration.'

0:34:040:34:10

He can never get laid. He doesn't quite understand sex.

0:34:100:34:13

'There's a particular episode where Jennifer Saunders

0:34:130:34:16

'appears as this character called Helen Back, who's snuck into Rik Mayall's bed.'

0:34:160:34:20

And he believes he may have had sex with her, but may not,

0:34:200:34:22

and he's trying to trade on this in a way which is almost old fashioned.

0:34:220:34:26

At one stage, she even took her bra off!

0:34:260:34:30

The need for sex is one of the things that propels them, but the idea that characters

0:34:300:34:36

who are so, let's be kind and just say flawed,

0:34:360:34:39

are ever going to find a happy relationship,

0:34:390:34:43

particularly a sexual relationship with a woman,

0:34:430:34:46

we know that's never going to happen.

0:34:460:34:49

That's part of what the comedy is.

0:34:490:34:50

With everyone at it,

0:34:500:34:52

comedy writers had to devise situations where they weren't.

0:34:520:34:56

It'd been done brilliantly in the '70s,

0:34:560:34:58

could it still be done in the '90s?

0:34:580:35:01

Birds of a Feather, you can almost see as the flip side of Porridge.

0:35:010:35:07

What happens in Porridge is the men are in prison

0:35:070:35:10

and sex is always on their minds.

0:35:100:35:14

Birds of a Feather,

0:35:140:35:15

we find out what was going on while they were in prison.

0:35:150:35:18

I just remember how bad I felt when Darryl went away.

0:35:180:35:21

Yeah, but it's only natural to feel lousy when your old man gets locked up.

0:35:210:35:25

Quite often the comedy is between the respectable upright pair

0:35:250:35:29

who are waiting for their men

0:35:290:35:31

and this woman who wants and is going to take.

0:35:310:35:34

What made Birds of a Feather new

0:35:340:35:36

was the man-mad and married next door neighbour.

0:35:360:35:41

I can't think of another character,

0:35:410:35:44

either in a drama or a sitcom, that was quite so blatantly in your face.

0:35:440:35:49

When she sang Like a Virgin she was in seventh heaven.

0:35:490:35:56

That was to her, absolutely glorious.

0:35:560:36:01

Dorien's attitude towards sex was she took what she wanted

0:36:010:36:04

when she wanted, and that was fine.

0:36:040:36:06

She did it on her terms.

0:36:060:36:08

She wasn't afraid to put herself out in the marketplace.

0:36:080:36:12

She just wants men.

0:36:120:36:13

Dorien is a surprising character

0:36:130:36:15

because even though sometimes her sexual relationships go wrong,

0:36:150:36:19

actually most of the time she's highly successful, she gets the men she wants,

0:36:190:36:23

keeps them for as long as she wants and gets rid of them when she wants.

0:36:230:36:26

If you saw a man doing that you wouldn't think twice about it, but when you see a woman doing it,

0:36:260:36:30

suddenly she's this new word, she's a "cougar."

0:36:300:36:32

I need an honest opinion from you.

0:36:320:36:34

All right, you're an old trollop.

0:36:340:36:37

Well, that's how she lived her life.

0:36:370:36:41

I think she was probably the original cougar.

0:36:410:36:43

She's a rare character because she's successful in her pursuit of sex,

0:36:430:36:47

she's not in the first flush of youth,

0:36:470:36:49

she isn't an oil painting, but she makes it work for her.

0:36:490:36:51

'I think Dorien was incredibly liberating,

0:36:510:36:53

'both for herself and for other people.'

0:36:530:36:55

I had letter upon letter saying,

0:36:550:36:57

"I am just like you, everyone calls me Dorien."

0:36:570:37:01

Or, "Oh, my goodness I wish I had had the bottle

0:37:010:37:05

"to live my life as Dorien has lived hers."

0:37:050:37:08

Mmm! Is that a gun in your pocket,

0:37:080:37:10

or are you just pleased to see me?

0:37:100:37:13

It's a gun, actually.

0:37:140:37:16

But even in the '90s, sitcom could only go so far.

0:37:160:37:19

To start with, hardly anything could actually be shown.

0:37:190:37:22

'I think there was one scene with Chris Ellison where Dorien'

0:37:220:37:25

was in bed with somebody and I think that's as far as you ever got.

0:37:250:37:30

And could a promiscuous married woman

0:37:300:37:33

ever be a happy and fulfilled sitcom character?

0:37:330:37:36

There was a vulnerability to her and that's what made Dorien real.

0:37:360:37:42

It wasn't just about getting the laugh,

0:37:420:37:45

you saw the hurt behind that.

0:37:450:37:47

Don't you wish you'd ever had kids?

0:37:470:37:50

Sometimes, when I need an excuse to see Bambi again.

0:37:500:37:54

There was one moment when Sharon said, "Did you ever want children, Dorien?"

0:37:540:37:58

and she said, "There comes a time in everyone's life when you have to choose children or beige carpets."

0:37:580:38:02

I opted for carpets.

0:38:020:38:03

So you don't regret it, then?

0:38:050:38:07

Of course not.

0:38:070:38:08

The '90s were full of women behaving badly,

0:38:160:38:19

as in the fashion PR satire, Absolutely Fabulous.

0:38:190:38:22

It was a show that was quite frank about sex.

0:38:220:38:26

It usually called a spade a spade, but preferred it if the spade

0:38:260:38:31

had been designed by Christian La Croix.

0:38:310:38:33

This is Jeff, he's our dancer and this is Hilton, drama student,

0:38:330:38:38

top of the line, cream of the crop.

0:38:380:38:40

Fantastic. Hi, Hilton.

0:38:400:38:42

'There's an episode called Sex

0:38:420:38:44

'where it feels a good idea to give a sex party.'

0:38:440:38:47

You've scored there already.

0:38:470:38:48

And they invite two gigolos round, one of whom is played by,

0:38:480:38:53

though he wasn't at the time, one of the future stars of The Wire.

0:38:530:38:56

Has anyone ever told you, you look a bit like Sean Connery?

0:38:560:38:59

And I seem to remember quite a funny moment,

0:38:590:39:02

and this may be of mild historical interest, the first time,

0:39:020:39:07

I don't know what they're called, an erection stabiliser or something.

0:39:070:39:12

It was a spray that keeps you hard

0:39:120:39:15

and Edi thinks it's a breath freshener.

0:39:150:39:19

His tongue becomes essentially stiff for quite a long time,

0:39:190:39:25

which is useful and not useful!

0:39:250:39:28

For all its outrageous behaviour,

0:39:320:39:34

AbFab was a knowing '90s take on the sexual idealism of an earlier age.

0:39:340:39:39

Absolutely Fabulous is a sitcom about the consequences of the 1960s.

0:39:390:39:43

It's the idea of what happened to the swinging '60s boomers in the 1990s.

0:39:430:39:49

We see Edina has been a sexual character.

0:39:490:39:51

She's lived, she's had ex-husbands, she's got a kid, she's been wild,

0:39:510:39:54

but now, in a way, society's moved on and she slightly can't quite get it,

0:39:540:40:00

why there's this new conservatism, why there's this new morality, as portrayed by Saffi, her daughter.

0:40:000:40:04

It's disgusting, that is so degrading to women!

0:40:040:40:08

What do you mean? She's got the whip.

0:40:080:40:09

'It is a programme you could argue is highly conservative,

0:40:110:40:13

'because what it does is say,'

0:40:130:40:15

"Look at the ridiculous consequences of the sexual revolution."

0:40:150:40:18

And so in that way it's quite a reactionary programme in which

0:40:180:40:22

women who've come from the sexual revolution

0:40:220:40:25

are actually punished and seen to be ridiculous.

0:40:250:40:28

# We are sailing... #

0:40:280:40:31

But for its sexual politics,

0:40:310:40:33

one comedy famously captured the mood of the '90s like no other.

0:40:330:40:37

# Home again, across the sea... #

0:40:370:40:44

There's a thing with sitcoms

0:40:440:40:45

that sometimes they come along exactly as people are thinking about

0:40:450:40:48

the thing the sitcom's about.

0:40:480:40:49

# We are sailing... #

0:40:490:40:52

I have to use the word zeitgeist, I'm afraid.

0:40:520:40:54

It taps into the zeitgeist.

0:40:540:40:55

I think if I'd sat there at my desk in the early '90s and thought,

0:40:550:40:59

"What is really going to sum up the decade?"

0:40:590:41:02

I would probably have gone in a different direction.

0:41:020:41:06

The 1990s was a time when we were almost self-consciously grown up

0:41:090:41:13

and it was inevitable that in comedic terms

0:41:130:41:16

we would have to have a reaction against that

0:41:160:41:19

and the women had been, so it was the men's turn,

0:41:190:41:22

and the men all pretended to be lads.

0:41:220:41:24

Dorothy, I've got my flap open and I'm begging you to let me enter.

0:41:240:41:29

It certainly put its finger on

0:41:290:41:31

something of the way men were behaving and it contributed to it.

0:41:310:41:34

The characters in it became icons of that lad culture and they in turn

0:41:340:41:39

fed into it and it affected the way people behaved.

0:41:390:41:43

Honey, we're home.

0:41:430:41:46

It's about men trying to cope with that early '90s post-feminist women

0:41:460:41:53

who are in charge of their careers

0:41:530:41:54

and frankly don't particularly need the men in their lives.

0:41:540:41:58

As the series progresses that becomes more and more farcical,

0:42:040:42:07

so you get more and more laddish,

0:42:070:42:09

boobs, birds, beer, that sort of thing.

0:42:090:42:11

If women could only have either buttocks or breasts,

0:42:110:42:15

what would you sacrifice?

0:42:150:42:18

I'd be very sad to lose my buttocks.

0:42:180:42:21

-I know you would, mate.

-Can I have one of each?

0:42:210:42:25

We were given pretty much a free hand actually by the BBC to be as rude as we wanted to be.

0:42:270:42:31

# I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker... #

0:42:310:42:37

But one infamous episode on Christmas Day attracted

0:42:370:42:39

more complaints than any other sitcom of the age.

0:42:390:42:42

It was an episode in which Dorothy wanted to have children

0:42:420:42:47

and she'd given up on finding other men,

0:42:470:42:49

so she asks Gary if he would...

0:42:490:42:51

Fertilise me, Gary.

0:42:510:42:53

Fertilise me like you've never fertilised me before.

0:42:530:42:57

Of course when it came down to it, he didn't like the pressure,

0:42:570:43:01

so he ended up trying to... I can't remember it was such a long time ago.

0:43:010:43:04

It was an attempt by Gary to boost his sex drive, I think,

0:43:040:43:08

and he used pornography.

0:43:080:43:10

'Lots of sticky tissues was the nub of the problem,'

0:43:180:43:21

particularly sticky tissues stuck to Dorothy's face.

0:43:210:43:25

Understandably people thought, "I don't know if I want to see that when I'm surrounded by my loved ones"

0:43:290:43:33

but you know what, I don't care.

0:43:330:43:36

I think it happens and therefore we should show it.

0:43:360:43:38

It was interesting because the response that came from

0:43:380:43:42

the regulators and the BBC precisely said,

0:43:420:43:45

"Perhaps this was the wrong thing to broadcast at Christmas."

0:43:450:43:48

They said, "This was a perfectly appropriate thing for Men Behaving Badly to do, but at Christmas,"

0:43:480:43:52

which has an assumption about familiness,

0:43:520:43:56

"then that's not the right place to put it."

0:43:560:44:00

I don't know how we took that long

0:44:000:44:02

to really deal with the subject of masturbation,

0:44:020:44:05

because frankly it's very central to young men's lives

0:44:050:44:08

and therefore it was remiss of us to wait till Christmas 1999 to do it.

0:44:080:44:12

Have you got a light, Tony?

0:44:120:44:13

No, not that drawer, you can't!

0:44:130:44:15

If we broke any ground

0:44:150:44:17

it was in dealing with the delicate relationship

0:44:170:44:20

between a mainstream audience and the subject matter.

0:44:200:44:23

We dealt with pornography in an earlier episode.

0:44:230:44:26

Tony has a girlfriend, which is quite rare for him,

0:44:260:44:29

who discovers that he's got a drawer full of pornography

0:44:290:44:33

and he does, for him, quite an articulate defence.

0:44:330:44:36

What's she got that I haven't?

0:44:360:44:38

Nothing, it's just that, well, she folds up into a nice handy size

0:44:380:44:42

and sits quietly in the drawer.

0:44:420:44:45

And his girlfriend understandably says,

0:44:450:44:47

"It's a deal breaker, I don't think you should be reading these things."

0:44:470:44:52

Does that really turn you on?

0:44:520:44:53

How can that possibly... Oh, yes, it does actually.

0:44:530:44:56

How can it?

0:44:560:44:58

She's naked!

0:44:580:45:01

Yes, but she's obviously freezing to death.

0:45:010:45:04

She's sitting on a fork lift truck feeling exposed and stupid

0:45:040:45:07

and like a piece of meat.

0:45:070:45:08

How can that turn you on?

0:45:080:45:10

Well, she's naked!

0:45:100:45:13

It's interesting to compare it with Friends, the American sitcom,

0:45:130:45:17

in which pornography seemed to be

0:45:170:45:19

tolerated and embraced by the female characters in Friends.

0:45:190:45:24

We are looking at Playboy.

0:45:240:45:25

Oh, I want to look, too.

0:45:250:45:27

I don't know whether that says something about our sitcoms,

0:45:270:45:32

or our culture, but I certainly was surprised that

0:45:320:45:35

America seemed to be more liberal

0:45:350:45:37

about pornography, at least if you use sitcoms as your guide.

0:45:370:45:41

By the '90s we were waking up to an uncomfortable fact,

0:45:410:45:44

American sitcoms were just as funny and maybe more daring.

0:45:440:45:48

It's funny, because I grew up thinking American comedy

0:45:480:45:51

and American TV in general,

0:45:510:45:53

was more repressed, and more awkward about sex and sexuality than British

0:45:530:45:57

television and then something like Seinfeld came along

0:45:570:46:00

and completely blew my theory out of the water.

0:46:000:46:03

I am never doing...THAT again!

0:46:030:46:06

One episode of Seinfeld,

0:46:060:46:08

The Contest, was entirely devoted to giving up masturbation.

0:46:080:46:12

Far from prompting complaints, it won an Emmy.

0:46:120:46:14

-You don't think I can?

-No chance!

-Do you think you could?

0:46:140:46:18

Well, I know I could hold out longer than you!

0:46:180:46:21

Care to make it interesting?

0:46:210:46:23

In that scene where they set the bet up,

0:46:230:46:26

the men are surprised that Elaine wants to be involved.

0:46:260:46:29

Clearly there's an assumption there, women don't masturbate,

0:46:290:46:33

so she'd win the bet easily.

0:46:330:46:35

I want to be in on this too!

0:46:350:46:37

-No, it's a whole different thing because you're a woman!

-So what?

0:46:370:46:43

It's easier for a woman not to do it than a man.

0:46:430:46:47

We have to do it, it's part of our lifestyle.

0:46:470:46:50

I think it was really pioneering to do something like that and on

0:46:500:46:54

a huge show that was a big mainstream success.

0:46:540:46:56

Did you make it through the night?

0:46:560:46:58

-Yes, I'm proud to say I did.

-So you're still master of your domain?

0:46:580:47:03

Yes, I am master of my domain!

0:47:030:47:07

Even when they used phrases like master of their domain,

0:47:070:47:10

everyone knew what they were talking about in Seinfeld.

0:47:100:47:13

And again it's really clever because you have the woman, Elaine, actually losing the bet.

0:47:130:47:17

'I think it's interesting to listen to the audience responses,

0:47:170:47:20

'because there's a slow realisation,

0:47:200:47:22

'you can hear that the audience laughter gets louder

0:47:220:47:24

'as the realisation of the implication of what she's doing.

0:47:240:47:27

-You caved?

-It's over?

0:47:270:47:29

You're out?

0:47:290:47:30

Oh, my God, the Queen is dead!

0:47:300:47:34

I think running through that, and running through the whole episode,

0:47:340:47:37

is an interesting idea about gender.

0:47:370:47:39

Men Behaving Badly can have ideas of men masturbating,

0:47:390:47:43

but the idea of women masturbating is still taboo in most cultures.

0:47:430:47:49

-Any fun, fantasy type things?

-No.

0:47:490:47:55

Not sharing the British love of the loser,

0:47:580:48:00

sex seemed ubiquitous in the most mainstream American sitcoms.

0:48:000:48:04

If you tell me I might do it!

0:48:040:48:07

In Friends, the idea that young people

0:48:090:48:12

have sex with each other, just like everyone knows they do, is a given.

0:48:120:48:16

Sex isn't an issue. It's discussed in a minutiae of detail

0:48:160:48:19

that in the British sitcom, particularly in the '90s,

0:48:190:48:23

by the 1990s, we had no idea we could write that.

0:48:230:48:26

There are scenes on prime time US Thursday night NBC

0:48:260:48:31

where Ross and Rachel are in bed together,

0:48:310:48:33

discussing sexual fantasies about what they're going to do next.

0:48:330:48:36

OK, did you ever see Return Of The Jedi?

0:48:360:48:41

Yeah.

0:48:480:48:50

Do you remember the scene with Jabba The Hutt?

0:48:500:48:56

Well, Jabba had as his prisoner, Princess Leia.

0:48:590:49:04

Ross wants her to dress up as Princess Leia. Now in Britain, that would be a bit "Ooooh!"

0:49:070:49:12

But in America that's just "well, what do you fancy?"

0:49:120:49:16

They draw the comedy out of it, they make it funny,

0:49:160:49:19

but it's not an issue, it's just there.

0:49:190:49:22

Communication in American sitcom is in the end always possible.

0:49:220:49:26

British sitcom seems to say communication is never

0:49:260:49:29

fully possible, we can never fully understand each other

0:49:290:49:33

and therefore if we can never fully understand each other, it becomes pointless trying to communicate.

0:49:330:49:37

Oh, I've got something in my eye.

0:49:370:49:39

Back home Gimme Gimme Gimme seemed to catch Britcom at the crossroads,

0:49:390:49:43

about to embrace the new freedom

0:49:430:49:46

yet still rooted in the old world of innuendo and frustration.

0:49:460:49:49

Gimme Gimme Gimme was, I think,

0:49:490:49:51

one of the most frank portrayals of sex in British sitcom.

0:49:510:49:55

You know, Jonathan Harvey is a great writer, and I think he was very open

0:49:550:49:59

about things, just when you think taboos can't be pushed any further.

0:49:590:50:03

What's it like having a knob?

0:50:030:50:05

The language of Gimme Gimme Gimme was sort of, erm...dirty!

0:50:070:50:12

Bawdy. It's sort of in the vein of a slightly more up-to-date,

0:50:140:50:18

slightly postmodern Carry On film.

0:50:180:50:21

-Is he a ventriloquist?

-Well, I wouldn't mind

0:50:210:50:24

him sticking his hands up me skirt and making me lips move.

0:50:240:50:28

Sex was really important to the characters,

0:50:290:50:31

just because they were both single and both desperate.

0:50:310:50:34

I haven't had it in weeks.

0:50:340:50:36

The next bloke I meet

0:50:360:50:37

is going to need a pickaxe and a Davy lamp to break his way in.

0:50:370:50:40

I think the ideal man for her was Tom.

0:50:400:50:42

It was just that she didn't really believe that gay existed.

0:50:420:50:45

She thought he was just being slightly lazy.

0:50:450:50:48

They did eventually kiss. In our millennium special episode,

0:50:510:50:55

they did have a snog, which was fabulous for Linda

0:50:550:50:58

but not so fabulous for Tom.

0:50:580:51:00

In one respect, this co-hab comedy with a twist marked yet another

0:51:000:51:04

step forward in sitcom's shedding of its inhibitions.

0:51:040:51:07

I do think it's interesting, just from the point of view

0:51:070:51:10

it was the first sitcom on British telly, a British sitcom, anyway,

0:51:100:51:13

where one of the lead characters was gay.

0:51:130:51:15

I mean, Queer as Folk had come out

0:51:150:51:17

I think either the same year or the year before,

0:51:170:51:19

so there was clearly an appetite for stuff with gay characters in.

0:51:190:51:24

But this was the BBC, and this was quite mainstream.

0:51:240:51:27

Was he any good? Did he move your earth?

0:51:270:51:31

He was a bit toothy.

0:51:310:51:34

Comedy had come a long way since the days of Mr Humphries. Or had it?

0:51:340:51:38

There's a way in which it very explicitly throws back

0:51:380:51:41

to stereotyped representations of homosexual characters,

0:51:410:51:45

but in doing those very kind of knowingly and over the top,

0:51:450:51:49

still now it's difficult to kind of work out if we can think of that

0:51:490:51:52

as a progressive kind of deconstruction of,

0:51:520:51:55

and deliberate over-the-top performance of camp stereotypes

0:51:550:51:59

or whether it's just a rehash of those for a modern audience.

0:51:590:52:04

In the new millennium, sitcom moved fast.

0:52:050:52:08

Adultery, sex before marriage and homosexuality

0:52:080:52:11

were no longer its problem.

0:52:110:52:13

And there'd soon be sitcoms

0:52:130:52:15

that would make Gimme Gimme Gimme seem tame.

0:52:150:52:18

There are people who are writing sitcoms who grew up in the middle of the 1990s.

0:52:180:52:22

They've got no sense of that frustration

0:52:220:52:24

which has been so central to the creation of British comedy.

0:52:240:52:28

So now what you've got is you've got an amazing freedom in comedy where

0:52:280:52:32

literally - sexually, at least - almost anything is possible.

0:52:320:52:36

Hmm, women. There they are, walking around.

0:52:360:52:40

And they've all got them, under their clothes, hiding there.

0:52:400:52:46

But I know the secret.

0:52:460:52:47

Vaginas.

0:52:470:52:50

It seemed sitcom man was free at last

0:52:500:52:52

to say exactly what was on his mind.

0:52:520:52:54

The whole premise of Peep Show is that we're hearing people's interior monologues,

0:52:540:52:58

and we're hearing the interior monologues of two young men,

0:52:580:53:02

so it's no surprise that

0:53:020:53:03

a lot of the time what they're thinking about is sex.

0:53:030:53:06

She's definitely got one.

0:53:060:53:09

She's trying to make out she hasn't got one, but I know she has.

0:53:090:53:14

Got to stop thinking about vaginas!

0:53:140:53:16

You know, when they're walking around, when they go to a disco,

0:53:160:53:19

at a gig, in a club, they're seeing women.

0:53:190:53:21

All they can think about is sex all the time. And then he walks into the toilet.

0:53:210:53:24

-What's going on?

-Barney's only locked himself in the bloody bog.

-What have you done to him?

0:53:240:53:29

-Nothing. Jesus!

-He's a fucker!

0:53:290:53:31

-Has he been sucking you off?

-No, course not.

0:53:310:53:36

-Yeah.

-Well, maybe once.

0:53:360:53:39

Sitcom's pushing back taboos all the time.

0:53:390:53:41

Maybe not so much in what they show,

0:53:410:53:44

But they're pushing taboos back in what they talk about and the language they use.

0:53:440:53:46

And, you know, whether it's The Inbetweeners talking about blow jobs

0:53:460:53:51

or Peep Show talking about sucking off or just generally the sort of

0:53:510:53:55

terms they use for sexual organs,

0:53:550:53:57

this has changed a lot, particularly, I think, in the last decade.

0:53:570:54:01

Don't suck him off, all right? And don't make him suck you off.

0:54:010:54:04

Just get him out there without any more sucking off.

0:54:040:54:08

Of course, there were still rules about what you could say,

0:54:080:54:11

but they'd changed a bit since Alf Garnett's day.

0:54:110:54:14

We're rationed to 25 bloodys per script.

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And I remember once doing a deal with a BBC producer.

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It was four "bloodys" for two "tits".

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At the BBC now, you fill in a form that is essentially a fuck request.

0:54:220:54:27

You ask the channel controller for a fuck,

0:54:270:54:31

obviously in the nicest possible way!

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And it's their decision, as it were,

0:54:350:54:38

the number of fucks they'll give you.

0:54:380:54:41

I'm likely to use an awful lot of what we would call

0:54:410:54:45

violent sexual imagery,

0:54:450:54:47

and I just wanted to check

0:54:470:54:48

that neither of you would be terribly offended by that.

0:54:480:54:51

It seems to me one of the things

0:54:510:54:54

that comedy has a sort of duty to do is to keep pushing,

0:54:540:54:58

because comedy can say things

0:54:580:55:02

which serious programmes can't, I think, sometimes.

0:55:020:55:08

You look at a show like The Thick of It,

0:55:080:55:10

where it's Malcolm Tucker's birthday,

0:55:100:55:12

and his PA brings in a box.

0:55:120:55:14

It's clearly a cake. And he opens it,

0:55:140:55:17

and it says in icing on the cake, "Happy Birthday C-*-N-T."

0:55:170:55:23

This could be from anybody.

0:55:230:55:25

Ah, it's from the Prime Minister.

0:55:260:55:28

Clearly, for that audience,

0:55:280:55:30

language isn't the great headache, or rather some language.

0:55:300:55:35

You know, racial language now is much more frowned on

0:55:350:55:38

than sexual language.

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So it's not that we're no longer offended,

0:55:430:55:46

we're just offended by different things.

0:55:460:55:48

-What's the

-BLEEP

-doing here?

-Eh?

0:55:480:55:50

There was a key moment in the 1990s in British comedy,

0:55:500:55:56

which actually happens completely off screen.

0:55:560:55:59

The Independent Television Commission,

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the body that regulates television,

0:56:010:56:03

published its regular "what offends the viewers?"

0:56:030:56:07

At some point in the mid-1990s,

0:56:070:56:09

sex fell down the list and race went up the list, and that was

0:56:090:56:13

when Britain started to find

0:56:130:56:15

the idea of sex and rudity and nudity not that big a deal.

0:56:150:56:19

But actually, it's quite a big deal to be racist.

0:56:190:56:22

Now, after that,

0:56:220:56:24

comedy starts to move into a much more open direction.

0:56:240:56:26

Wow. What's this?

0:56:260:56:28

-I thought you might like to watch.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:56:280:56:32

In a sitcom like Him and Her on BBC Three in 2010, the key characters

0:56:320:56:38

are a couple who just basically are in bed the whole time.

0:56:380:56:42

-I don't mind, if you do something for me.

-Like what?

0:56:420:56:48

Still that programme is very much about the negotiation of sex

0:56:480:56:51

between men and women, and the ways in which,

0:56:510:56:55

quite often, women hold the strings in terms of sex.

0:56:550:56:58

-Like letting Laura pop round?

-Laura?!

0:56:580:57:04

She's my sister, Steve. She's feeling really down about Paul.

0:57:040:57:08

That's an idea that's been going on in sitcom for years,

0:57:080:57:11

so the reasons why sex is funny are the same now as 50, 60 years ago.

0:57:110:57:15

Still, it seems an awfully long way from Hancock's Half Hour.

0:57:150:57:19

And in today's multi-channel world, what will be the last taboo to go?

0:57:190:57:24

"Taboo" is a funny word.

0:57:240:57:26

There are a great many that remain,

0:57:260:57:29

and there are things which can't be dealt with in sitcom.

0:57:290:57:34

I was once approached by a man at Yorkshire Television,

0:57:340:57:37

and he said to me, "David, we want to do a play about sex abuse,

0:57:370:57:42

"and we immediately thought of you."

0:57:420:57:45

I said no.

0:57:490:57:50

But maybe comedy will be kept in check by the oldest taboo of all,

0:57:540:57:58

not being funny.

0:57:580:57:59

If you go further than the audience wants you to,

0:57:590:58:03

either in language or material or just reference, they won't laugh.

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