Clean Eating's Dirty Secrets

I'm Grace Victory, and I make YouTube videos on beauty, fashion,

body image and mental health -

sort of like the Internet's Big Sister.

The latest fashion in health right now is clean eating,

with over 30 million #eatclean hashtags on Instagram

and self-styled wellness bloggers leading the way

in pushing plant-based diets

that are dairy-free, sugar-free, gluten-free, meat-free, joy-free.

I have struggled with eating in the past and some people say that

extreme clean eating can just be another eating disorder.

So, should we worry about the latest trend,

or will clean eating really result in a hotter, happier, healthier you?

The number of wellness bloggers promoting the benefits

of their diets on your body and mind has exploded.

I'm going to try some of these diets.

So, I am going to type in clean eating and see what comes up.

-Hi.

-Hi.

-Hey, guys.

-Hi, guys!

Hey, banana bitches!

Am I beautiful?

What?

There's thousands and thousands of videos on clean eating.

I've come across Deliciously Ella, which I have heard of before.

I'm Ella from Deliciously Ella

and I am going to be sharing loads of stuff

on health and happiness with you guys.

The other UK person is Madeleine Shaw.

Check out my website for more tips and tricks to enliven the hottest,

happiest and healthiest you.

So, all these clean eaters are preaching

that what they do is the best way to live.

But I am thinking now, are these people trained in this stuff?

Do they know what they are talking about? I don't know.

I'm Melissa Hemsley and this is my sister Jasmine.

The Hemsley sisters have got a new cookery show

and say their clients experience...

..a result of the diets they promote.

But they are not qualified nutritionists or dieticians,

so why are people listening to them?

Could I, tomorrow, be like,

"My new eating trend is I am going to eat full-fat food and no carbs"?

Could that be a thing? I think it could be,

if people want to believe something to make themselves feel better,

so that's what I think is happening.

I found a voucher to become a nutritionist -

like, an actual nutritionist,

a raw food nutritionist diploma course -

for £29.

£29. 29!

So, I am going to enrol and then start my training and my studying.

It's like going back to school.

The number of vegans in the UK has more than tripled in ten years.

But the bloggers like to call themselves plant-based instead.

This is Ella Woodward's, kind of,

like, basic "what we should be eating."

As a plant-based diet, I can't eat meat, fish,

wheat, dairy, no white flour, white rice, white pasta,

no refined foods, no chemicals,

no additives, no flavourings.

Let's go. Can't have that.

No cheese. No yoghurt.

Dairy Milk chocolate is my life.

I'm saying goodbye to my life.

No. No.

No. Branston pickle is my favourite with cheese.

This contains calcium chloride.

I'm not actually sure what calcium chloride is.

That's made me feel really sick.

My chilli contains sulphur dioxide.

What's that?

Basically, I can't have anything on my top shelf.

I'm...I'm feeling stressed.

That is all that's left.

I'm depressed.

Well...

Look how green that is.

I got rid of the stuff that clean eaters say I shouldn't eat.

So, if I am going to try a plant-based diet,

I'd better get some clean food.

So, I am in Wandsworth

and I am going to Planet Organic

to buy some organic food.

That's all I can eat, so...

That's the plan.

Here we have seeds. Dark chia.

Sprouted risotto.

Sprouted chia seed powder.

Mulberries.

What's that? Argh!

I could just eat that, I could just eat that.

I feel like I should lick it,

so that nobody can have it and I can buy it.

£12 for pollen.

They look tasty, but they are £5.

I'm not a millionaire, so...

Quinoa bread, buckwheat bread, linseed bread, rice bread,

buckwheat three-grain bread, sourdough bread, brioche bread.

Spelt, sourdough...

That...is £6.75.

For that. THAT.

What is happening?

I kind of feel like this whole clean eating vegan thing

is a class.

Like, very middle-class, very, like...middle-class,

and I just...I mean, I make money,

but I can't afford to eat like this all the time.

It's very expensive.

But clean eating isn't just about what you eat.

The wellness bloggers are selling a whole lifestyle.

I am at Be Fit London,

which is a three-day event for fitness fanatics,

people that watch what they're eating

and generally live a really healthy lifestyle,

so that's where I am today.

Yeah!

I want one of them.

But I've heard it's really expensive - like, £300.

Which is ridiculous.

I have watched you on YouTube for...

Since the beginning, girl.

Look who I bumped into. It's only Grace Victory!

Look how great you look and how terrible I look.

I have just literally woken up.

It's amazing.

Tell me, do you clean eat?

-I try to.

-Try to.

What is clean eating to you guys, though?

It's about knowing what is good for you and what works for you,

and what makes you feel good and what makes you not feel good.

-I think it's about balance.

-Balance.

We need to eat more plants.

We need to eat more real food, not processed foods,

food that comes from the earth and comes from trees

and comes from bushes. So, to me,

plant-based living is just about adding more vegetables

and more greens into your diet.

Basically, seven-and-a-half years ago,

when I started on my healthy eating journey, that...think about it,

it was before kale got a publicist and it was, like,

when everybody was calling quinoa "quin-oh-ah" - everybody.

So, clean eating is, like, a booming thing at the moment.

Huge at the moment. I think,

with the kind of boom of Instagram and the InstaFit,

I think it's fashionable at the moment.

-Oh, my God, this is... Yeah. On trend.

-It's like the new black.

Everybody wants to be drinking a green smoothie.

Everybody wants to be, like, going to the hottest yoga class.

It has become, like, a social thing, now.

Like, if you're not eating clean, it's, like, "Who are you?"

It is a bit of a problem because there is a lot of people out there

who are giving out nutritional advice,

personal training advice,

and they don't necessarily have the qualifications,

but nobody is really questioning them.

-No.

-They just think, "Oh, that girl has a great body.

"She has a lovely smoothie bowl on her Instagram.

"She must know what she's doing."

-There's no way we can stop it, or monitor it.

-Yeah.

I think it is just going to continue to grow

because the industry is just growing.

Everybody wants to be a part of it, everybody wants to be Insta famous.

-Fitness fanatic, abs on Instagram...

-Yeah.

That's the thing. So, I mean,

I think we do need to be careful about, like,

who we are taking advice from.

What are the main bloggers saying

and can we really trust them?

Deliciously Ella says that...

Is that really true?

This woman should know.

She's literally a proper scientist with a PhD in nutrition.

This is just scientific nonsense.

Milk is a really good source of calcium.

The danger of giving up milk is that you don't replace that calcium

in your diet with something else

and that has long-term consequences for your bone health.

I haven't had lunch yet.

It's, like, three o'clock.

Mainly because I don't know what I want.

And I am watching, like...

..clean eating videos and I am just, like,

"I'm not inspired by this. It's unattainable to me."

I don't want to live this lifestyle.

I don't want to.

And I really, really miss eggs.

I miss eggs so...much.

An egg sandwich, an omelette,

egg with avocado on toast, poached egg, fried egg, scrambled egg...

I also can't stop farting.

I literally... It's like, I eat a vegetable...

..and I fart straightaway, so...

Great... Great(!)

I have been eating a plant-based diet for two weeks now

and I am really struggling.

But one of my followers has suggested that I speak to fellow YouTuber High Carb Hannah.

She calls herself a diet coach and has inspired loads of people

to eat a clean diet and lose weight, so maybe she can help me.

The all-potato diet - I am just going to be having potatoes.

She and her followers once did a potato cleanse for 30 days

as a weight-loss experiment.

That sounds ridiculous.

I have been told that you are the girl to go to for,

like, weight loss and to get healthy.

So, who did you follow for inspiration

when you went vegan straightaway, years ago?

I was following Freelee - Freelee the Banana Girl.

I'm here, about to eat one banana after my run this morning,

and I'm going to hit some more bananas later,

so we'll see how many I can have, maybe 40, 50, today?

Her boyfriend, Durianrider...

My advice for fat people?

-Get off your

-BLEEP

-arse, eat like we do.

There's lots of other people...

And, back then, like, everybody was kind of 100% raw.

It was, like, you had to be 100% raw to be healthy.

I wasn't having any nuts,

I wasn't having any seeds, no fats, no salts...

Nothing that had any type of stimulation in it.

So, no caffeine, no cocoa powder, nothing like that.

So, how did you, like, find out about the starch diet,

or eating that way?

What happened was...

The 100% raw thing kind of turned into "raw till four",

which is basically just eating fruit until four o'clock,

and then having a big, starch-based meal.

And then there was actually a YouTuber named Potato Strong...

Hey, guys, it's Will from Potato Strong, here.

I wanted to talk about calories today.

..who promoted eating a starch-based diet,

and he had lost a lot of weight and after failing so miserably

on a fruit-based diet, I was just, like,

"I'm going to try eating starch-based."

Now, for, like, the potato cleanse,

which was a 30-day experiment that I did on my channel,

I just wanted to see if I could survive off of potatoes for 30 days

and what would happen.

And in our group, like, tons of people have lost 20lbs, 30lbs...

In 30 days?

-Yeah, just eating potatoes...

-Shut up!

-Yeah.

Do you think that you should just

literally just have, like, starchy food?

I would say do the potato cleanse for a week.

Like, that's what I recommended - people do it for a week,

and then they transition to a starch-based diet.

And instead of thinking that it's restrictive,

they think that there's so much that they can eat

because if you come from a potato cleanse and then, after that,

I can have rice and beans and fruit and, like, all this stuff,

-then it seems very, like...

-Yeah.

-..you have all these options.

OK. Well, this is it, then.

I am embarking on the potato cleanse and then starch-based.

I can do this. Hannah, I can do this.

You can do this!

Breakfast is a sweet potato with maple syrup.

Yes! Not really. I hate it, it's gross.

I've lost...

..one more pound.

So...I have to leave for a meeting...

..and I haven't eaten.

Number one, I just cannot eat potatoes for breakfast.

Number two, I'm running slightly late.

So usually, I would go up to central London

and get food up there, which I am going to try and do today,

if I can find potatoes.

Oh! All I want is avocado on toast with poached egg.

Potatoes, onion, garlic.

Another day.

Another potato.

I feel, like, bloated, and I'm not pooing.

I have broken out.

I feel like I look really bad.

I just... Look at the state of me.

Like, I'm not about this.

No.

I just feel really crap about myself.

Nothing to do with how I look, as such,

but it's a bit more like I feel like I can't see my friends.

And I feel socially isolated, a little bit.

I just don't see why you would put yourself through this, to be honest.

Like, it might be because of my lifestyle - like, I...

..am constantly on the go.

I don't have time to constantly cook food.

And it's not easy. Like, I feel like people on the internet

and people who do this make it sound so easy and so great

because you lose all this weight, but it's not easy - for me, anyway.

I just don't like it.

I've been doing the potato cleanse for a week

and I am finding it pretty tough going.

I am now on my way to meet Ursula, a dietician,

and hopefully she is going to tell me the potato cleanse is wrong.

So, potato cleanse...

Am I going to benefit from this? Because it's driving me crazy.

-Do you just want a one-word answer?

-BOTH: No.

# Hallelujah... #

Thankfully, I've been let off the hook from the potato cleanse,

so now I'm trying the cleanest plant-based diet out there -

raw vegan.

Hello, everyone, it's Brianna JackFruitson and...

Nikocado Avocado.

I am at Brianna's house. We're going to make raw pad Thai, aren't we?

Yeah, it's going to be a really, really simple recipe,

there's just a few ingredients, just some raw vegetables,

a delicious peanut sauce, so I think you'll like it.

-Ooh, nice.

-Yeah.

-Let's go, then.

-One red pepper.

-Yeah.

-Courgettes and carrots

and Portobello mushrooms over here.

-So I'm going to have raw mushrooms? Will I die?

-No!

What is that? Powdered peanut butter?

-Yeah.

-And ginger. OK, cool.

Nah.

Next we've got carrot courgetti.

-Carrot-getti.

-So, you've never tried raw mushroom?

-Never in my life.

-I promise you it's not going to be as bad as you think.

Nah.

Tamari.

Nice. Do like a bit of lime juice.

So, Brianna has made the dish complete.

It's not the prettiest version I've ever made, but...

I feel like it's a starter, for my main dish to come!

But that sauce, Brianna, I'm impressed.

-Oh, thank you so much. I'm glad that you like it.

-It's so good.

Brianna's battled with anorexia for the past six years.

Two years ago, she relapsed after following wellness bloggers,

but since then she's become a wellness blogger herself.

Tell me your story.

When I was 12, I started to actually try and eat healthily,

I guess you could call it, like, clean eating in a way,

just to lose a bit of weight, feel a bit more confident,

and then that kind of spiralled into an eating disorder.

-Did you get diagnosed with anorexia, or...?

-Yes.

-OK.

It was just after my 17th birthday.

so it was about two-and-a-bit years ago now,

and I had a really major relapse, and whilst I was, like,

starving my body, of course,

all my body could think about was food,

right, cos it was so, so starved.

I would go on Instagram and I would just look at these food accounts.

-"I think I need that."

-Yeah.

That's when I kind of came across these vegan accounts,

and one of the people that I came across first of all

was a woman called Freelee.

Freelee again? I wonder what Dr Sarah thinks about her.

Protein, yes, it is bad to have lots of protein, girl.

-Protein is

-BLEEP

-like acid for your body and for your bones.

Well, it's like amino acids.

Yeah, so you don't want that.

I don't even know where to start.

It's absolute rubbish.

It just goes against everything that we know about nutrition

and nutrition science.

Clearly she hasn't got a brain in her head.

She also says...

It's not scientifically accurate.

It's scientific rubbish and it's almost comical.

There is a process by which,

when the gut cells are shed,

that the protein is reabsorbed into the body,

but the contribution to your diet is absolutely minuscule

and you couldn't live healthily from it.

She has a lot of guidelines that she likes people to follow,

or she recommends to people to follow,

in order to succeed on a vegan diet,

and it really just confused me in terms of, you know,

"Should I eat this amount?

"How much should I eat, What should I eat?"

It almost spiralled into another eating disorder, in a way,

because I was obsessing over food so much.

-Orthorexia.

-In a way, yes, I was just...

I was just so scared to not get veganism "right",

even though I wouldn't say there is one right way to do veganism at all.

This is my issue,

is that every person I come across who's vegan

has a different way of doing it,

and I think that the vegan community, it's quite cult-ish,

and if you put up a photo on Instagram

and no-one agrees with what you're eating, you just get attacked.

"You're going to die if you eat that."

And it's just, like,

"How about you eat how you eat and I eat how I eat?"

Yeah, I completely agree that there's no one-size-fits-all.

I've tried many different varieties of the vegan diet

and I've tried to be as healthy as everyone else wanted me to be.

But what I actually realised through all of that is, like, OK, well,

perhaps I could eat in a way

that would live up to everyone else's standards,

but even though perhaps my...

They think my body would be really physically healthy.

-In my mind, it's not mentally healthy at all.

-No.

So, today, I am at a eating disorder recovery clinic,

and I'm with the clinical director, Emmy.

What is your opinion, or what do you think about

the whole "eat clean" phenomenon that's been going on?

It's dangerous for us, it's really dangerous,

and what we've seen is an increase in sufferers coming forward

who have basically attempted to strive

for a greater sense of wellness

through clean eating and avoiding or restricting entirely food groups.

-Yeah.

-And, basically, what that means is that people get really ill,

and some of the people that we see here,

even the people with anorexia and binge-eating disorder,

started off with orthorexia.

Orthorexia.

I find it frightening, the amount of negative guidance there is

that's also under a veil of something positive,

because it really isn't.

Encouraging people to restrict food groups,

to be really self-critical,

and to praise people for depriving themselves of things

isn't positive - it's really, really quite nasty.

But it's got a very pretty face on the front of it,

some might say.

The orthorexia self-test.

11 questions to determine if someone has orthorexia.

"Do you feel an increased sense of self-esteem

"when you are eating right,

"and look down on others who are not?"

Yes, I do.

"Do you skip foods you enjoy to eat the right foods?" Yes.

"Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat away from home?" Yes.

"Are you being socially isolated?" Yes.

I have a modest case of orthorexia, apparently.

So there you go.

-Have you seen any bloggers in this clinic?

-We have.

We've seen probably at least a third, or at least heard from

a third of the top bloggers in the country,

and they're really not in a position to be giving advice,

and they know that, because they're looking for help elsewhere.

I'm shocked that Emmy claims

a third of the top clean eating bloggers in the UK

have been in touch with the Recover Clinic about their eating disorders.

This link between clean eating and orthorexia is a bit mad.

I found someone who says clean eating nearly killed her.

She developed anorexia, and then after that,

it kind of developed into something else,

and instead of restricting everything,

she then was restricting by just clean eating.

I would find recipes online

from people like Deliciously Ella and Madeleine Shaw,

where, basically, I could eat what I wanted

and just substitute the carbs for cauliflower.

And within something like six months,

I lost about 20% of my body weight.

I got to a weight where I was told my organs were shutting down

and, you know, I ended up in hospital,

and as soon as I gave my body the things that those health bloggers

were telling me not to give my body...

-You felt better.

-..I was healthy again.

And I would argue that health bloggers

are really, really responsible

for the increase in accessibility to restricting calories

in a way that doesn't look so abnormal.

See, cos I never looked at it like that.

I follow, like, health accounts on Instagram,

and because the food looks so appetising...

You strip it back and realise that because it's chia seeds...

-There's nothing in it.

-..there's nothing it in.

It is. they are, I guess, glorifying restricting your calories.

Also, it's demonising certain foods that we need, our bodies need.

Our bodies need carbs, our brain needs carbs.

I've seen first-hand what happens

when your brain is starved of carbohydrates.

You need those carbohydrates, and the fact that, no,

not everybody is gluten intolerant.

-Gluten insensitivity is very, very, very rare.

-Yeah.

Why all of a sudden now...?

50 years ago, people ate bread and they didn't have a problem.

Now all of a sudden, don't touch it, it's poisonous.

The Hemsley sisters say...

Madeleine Shaw says...

So, people that suffer from coeliac disease,

gluten does actually damage their gut,

but they make up, you know, 1% of the UK population.

But for the rest of us, we've been eating and tolerating gluten

for thousands of years, and nothing has changed in our genetics

to suddenly make us all intolerant to it.

I really want to know what the wellness bloggers will say

in response to Dr Sarah.

Not answering.

But even though I've been trying for two months,

none of them will take my calls or give me an interview.

Finally, a wellness blogger has agreed to meet me.

Her name is Natasha Corrett, and she promotes the alkaline diet.

So you now have a brand called Honestly Healthy.

-Yes.

-Tell me a bit more about that, what it involves...

So I write cookbooks, and based on nutritional principles

that a nutritionist, Vicki Edgson, put together,

I created what we call the green and lean plan,

which is a 90-day fitness and food transformation plan,

and the great thing is people are doing this,

they're learning to cook,

they're sleeping better, they have way more energy,

their families are on to it as well,

so it's not really about those sort of deprivation plans out there,

where it's all or nothing.

-Restricting...things like that.

-Not at all.

This really teaches you

day-to-day techniques and how to incorporate it into everyday life.

How come you went down the alkaline route?

Basically, our bodies are naturally alkaline

and always will put ourselves back into that state.

If we are fighting our food rather than fighting disease on a regular basis,

you put yourself under unnecessary stress,

so then your body will have to draw on...might have to draw on

the minerals from your bones

to help pull yourself back to that alkaline state.

So it's just putting yourself in an unnecessary stress

when...by the food you eat is really your fuel.

I spoke to a doctor, and he basically said to me

that your food won't affect your pH.

-Is that...?

-Sorry, I'm not... I'm not going to answer this.

I'm not going to answer this one, yeah?

-OK.

-OK.

-No worries.

-Yeah, sorry.

There isn't a scrap of scientific evidence

behind the so-called alkaline diet.

We have a very acidic pH in our stomach,

we have a slightly alkaline pH in our blood,

and there are different processes in the body that are there

to make sure that those pHs are maintained,

and it's nothing to do at all with the food that we eat.

So your nutritionist and co-author, Vicki Edgson,

has said that she was influenced by Robert Young.

No, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that, because he's just been arrested,

so I'm just not going down there.

Robert Young.

He is the father of the alkaline diet, and in 2012,

he made more than 5 million.

He claimed that acid is the cause of all diseases, including cancer,

and he has said that you can basically cure yourself of cancer

if you follow the alkaline diet.

He was arrested in 2014 and is now in prison

for practising medicine without a licence.

Neither Natasha nor her co-author

have ever made claims about the alkaline diet curing cancer,

though they do claim your food can affect your body's pH.

But as the only wellness blogger who's been willing to speak to me,

I also wanted to ask her about the business side of clean eating.

Do you think it is the trend and people are just making money?

Well, I think everyone finds a way of making money,

-because it's business, isn't it?

-Yeah.

But in what way do you mean?

I think sometimes people promote this whole clean eating lifestyle

and every day, someone's making up a new blog or bringing out a book.

Are they just jumping off the back of, like, seeing your success

or someone else's success and thinking, "I'm going to, like,

"brand myself as this wellness person and make loads of money"?

It's possible. I mean, I don't know,

I'm not one of those people, so I wouldn't be able to...

I've been doing this longer than probably all of them put together,

but I think it's the same with every industry, isn't it,

whether it's fashion or restaurants or, you know, even in the City.

I think everyone always...

We need to make money to eat, to have a...

You know, live, really, so I'm sure if someone,

I don't know, is inspired by something

or they think it might make them money,

then maybe they will.

I am here at the first UK wellness summit

and there's, like, entrepreneurs here, there are start-ups,

and it's all about making a business, essentially,

and making money off the wellness industry,

and I sort of feel like people are looking at me,

wondering what I'm doing here.

I don't know, I've got my hair in plaits, plus-size...

I don't know, I just get... I feel like I'm being judged

and people are thinking, "She doesn't look healthy",

or, "She doesn't look like she's into wellness," so...yeah.

We're all walking around in our yoga pants and our trainers

and we're drinking green juice and we're meditating,

and this is the industry that you're involved in, right,

you're leading that movement and you're leading a new way of thinking

toward how we think about our bodies and our minds

and how we look after ourselves in a very stressful generation.

But some people in the wellness business

do accept there are problems.

I am with Sarah Wilson, and she quit sugar, basically.

-You quit sugar.

-Yeah.

1.5 to 1.8 million people have quit sugar

via my books or my programme, my online programme.

And then I've got books in, I think, 40-plus countries now.

-That's amazing.

-Around the world. Yeah.

So you studied at the IIN, the same as Madeleine Shaw,

but you've said that that doesn't really make you...

-Qualified in anything in particular.

-Yeah.

-I'm very careful about that.

I think what you're picking up on is a trend at the moment

amongst the clean-eating, wellness-warrior set

where they go and do a nine-month online course

and feel that they're qualified to go out there

and show people how to eat and be well.

-Yeah.

-And, look, there's a certain amount

of genuineness to all of that,

but the problem is that often, it can actually skew

into very large problems, and in Australia...

I think you've heard of Belle Gibson.

Belle Gibson was the first wellness blogger

and she actually inspired many people who are nutrition bloggers,

food bloggers today,

and she's been prosecuted because she told the public

that she cured herself of brain cancer

by basically becoming a clean eater.

And she had an app out that was promoted by Apple,

she had a book out, she made a lot of money,

but it's all come out that it's all been one big lie

and that she never had cancer.

-I couldn't believe that.

-No, she landed in a lot of trouble,

and, basically, is up for fraud charges at the moment

and has dragged down Apple, Penguin Publishing...

Everyone got swept up, you know, in this movement,

so as an old person, I actually feel like saying to other old people,

you know, these brands, "You know what?

"Wake up to yourselves. These people are doing their thing,

"but you should actually be taking responsibility."

So, actually, with the Belle Gibson example,

I have a problem with the companies that bolstered her

and gave her money and worked with her and used her as an influencer.

-They just see...

-That's where the issue is.

They just think, "Money" and that's all they care about.

Yeah. And millennials, they want to get through

to the millennials who've got money.

So, look what's come in the post.

I am now a raw-food nutritionist with a diploma.

Can you see that?

Woo-hoo-hoo, I'm a nutritionist.

Mm-mm-mm-mm-hmmm!

So I'm a nutritionist now!

-Yeah, which is a worry.

-What is your opinion on that,

how easy it was for me to become...?

And bearing in mind I have... I have eating problems,

and that's so easy for me just to become a nutritionist.

Unfortunately, the law in this country

is that anyone can become a nutritionist

and you can give your opinion to people about what to eat.

You have a lot of followers, you have a lot of people that listen to what you say.

If you started saying tomorrow, "Don't eat this and don't eat that,"

people would do it.

-They would.

-Which is really worrying.

So I've obviously been looking at different people online

and meeting people who follow certain diets,

and in my opinion, they don't look that healthy to me,

they don't look that well.

I would agree. Looking at most of them, I would say,

"You have an eating disorder.

"You meet all of the criteria for an eating disorder."

You know, from the way they speak about food,

and they push themselves with exercise

and they obsess around food.

So you get a bunch of people

all with very strange, odd relationships with food,

who are validating each other's behaviours and saying, "This is OK,"

-when it's not!

-No.

It's a trend, and it will be a bubble

that eventually probably bursts and people take the backlash.

-Yeah.

-The main message is, throughout a couple of hundred years

that haven't changed, eat a little bit of what you fancy,

eat in moderation.

-Eat food, you know, that looks like food.

-Actual food.

So I've arrived in Portugal. I am here, part-holiday, part-work.

And...we are going to a Mexican restaurant, so...

..raw vegan...might have to go out the window.

I'm sorry.

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