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Each year almost half the population of Britain is targeted by a scam | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and the brains behind these scams are quick-thinking con men | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
who know every trick in the book to get you to part with your cash. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Coming up in today's programme... | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
how a fraudulent solar panel company took advantage | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
of one trusting 86-year-old, leaving his world in pieces. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
Their kindliness and friendliness | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
is ruthlessly exploited by the scammers. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
And we hear about a will writing company that took | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
more than their fee from the estates of the deceased. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
It was just devastating to think that there was somebody out there | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
that could actually rob the dead. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I'm here to tell you what the con man doesn't want you to know, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
how to stay one step ahead of the game and not get scammed. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Something I've learned is that scam artists are always looking | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
for the next bandwagon to jump on to. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Case in point, renewable energy, solar panels, that sort of thing. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Renewable energy is clean energy harnessed from sources | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
like the sun and the wind. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Stick solar panels on your roof or a wind turbine in your garden | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
and you can generate your own electricity | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
which is good for the environment, and can be good for your pocket. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
So it's no surprise that more and more people | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
are keen to switch to renewable energy. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Sadly, this has created an opportunity for fraudsters. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
Scammers are always looking to try and find the next best thing | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
that consumers are interested in. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I think solar panels is a classic example of that. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Some scammers will look at the industry and try and hijack it. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
We're about to meet John, he's 86, a war hero, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
and he made a down payment to a company he found on the internet, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
for a solar panel. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Seven months on, he still hasn't got it. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-Hello, John, how are you? I'm Matt. -You are Matt? -I am Matt. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
-Do come in. -Thank you very much. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
-So you were looking for electricity from these new panels. -Yes. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
Why did you need that? | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Because I'm a bit of a nut about the environment. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:39 | |
Don't waste water, save electricity if you can. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
The solar panels that John was interested in are called PV, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
or photovoltaic solar panels. They contain the technology | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
to convert light from the sun into electricity. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Wanting to find out more, he went onto the internet | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and soon came across a local company who supplied them. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Registering his interest, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
it was only matter of days before a salesman popped round. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Little did he realise, this would be a life-changing experience... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
and not in a good way. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
So, John, how did this company go about gaining your trust? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
The representative who came presented himself | 0:03:16 | 0:03:22 | |
as an ex-bank manager, in the course of conversation. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
He was very pleasant. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
So I went ahead and took the bait, as it were. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
But signing up didn't just involve a signature, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
it involved money. The total cost of the project was agreed at £12,000 | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
but the salesman wanted an upfront payment. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
Consumers must be careful about paying too much money upfront. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
It might appear work is undertaken and the contract is going well, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
if you pay too much and the trader disappears | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and fails to come back, you will be out of pocket. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
How much was the initial down payment, John? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
£3,450. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
At this stage, John had no idea the people | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
he was dealing with were anything other than professional. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
In fact, two workmen arrived on his doorstep a few days later. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
They went up in the attic, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
and spent a couple of hours up there. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
They came down and pointed out to me, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
a length of electric wire hanging down in my cupboard, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
in the hall, saying that it was all finished. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
The two men explained to John that all the electrics | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
were now in place, ready for the solar panel installation | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
and, of course, further payments would therefore be required. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
I gave them the second payment of 3,500. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
-OK, so you're nearly £7,000 down at this stage. -6,950. | 0:04:54 | 0:05:01 | |
Spot-on. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
The two men were so convincing that John had willingly paid | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
more than half the cost of the £12,000 installation. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
As yet, not one solar panel had made it into his house, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
but John had no reason to believe that anything was wrong. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Trading Standards find the elderly | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
and vulnerable are particularly targeted by scams on the doorstep. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
They come from a trusting background, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
they don't like saying no, they don't like being rude. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
That kindliness and friendliness is ruthlessly exploited | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
by the scammers. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Having met John, I can tell you, he's no fool. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
He's even had experience working with criminals. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
Spending an incredible 31 years of his life | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
working for the Prison Service, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
he was dedicated to helping rehabilitate prisoners. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
Why did you stick with it for so long? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Well, I felt that I could and should help. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:02 | |
These people, in my view, needed a second chance. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
With years of experience like that, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
you'd think John would know a criminal when he met one. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
The reality is that he was dealing with a very clever scammer. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
My nephew visited, and he went up into the attic, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
which I couldn't do, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
to see what had been done. He took several pictures. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
He discovered that all they had done, really, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
was to put a few lengths of wire, attached to the beams, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
running nowhere, connected to nothing. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
And left one hanging down in my cupboard as a final effort | 0:06:45 | 0:06:52 | |
to persuade me the work had been completed. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Feeling confused by the situation, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
John wanted to put a halt to things immediately. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
I didn't want anything else to do with the firm. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I would rather have my money back. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
So John called one of the directors of the company, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
and they said they'd come out and assess the work, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
but John stood firm, and stated | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
that he just wanted his money back, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
and that was the last time he spoke to them. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
He has been shielded by those that worked with him in the office. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:25 | |
He was either off sick, out of the office, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
or on the phone or something. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
With help from his nephew, he did some research into the company, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
and discovered one of the directors had recently been barred | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
from running a company for ten years. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
It came as no surprise | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
when the company he'd been dealing with soon went into liquidation. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
John's lost nearly £7,000, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
but the damage is not just financial. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
The whole experience has left him feeling completely shocked | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
and confused. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
It's, umm.... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
-I'm sorry, I can't. -It's OK. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Do you want to take some time, John? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
It's a poor reflection... really, of mankind. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
We should be better than that. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
I think that everybody watching this would agree with you. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
I think the people that we're dealing with here | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
are a tiny minority, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
who can have a devastating effect on somebody like yourself. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:55 | |
But I also think, John, that by doing this, hopefully, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
other people will be forewarned. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
I hope so. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
He's bringing nothing but misery to people. It's not the way to live. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
After falling for this scam, John has noticed a sharp increase | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
in the number of cold calls he gets every day, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
with a variety of sales reps attempting | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
to flog him their services. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
He even receives one before I leave. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
You're a claims management company? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
You're calling speculatively to find out if my friend has any loans | 0:09:38 | 0:09:45 | |
or mortgages that are being paid off? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
I'm going to be very clear with you now, OK? You need to listen | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
very carefully. Don't ever call this number again, do you understand? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
It's just such a shame that, at this time of your life, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
you've come into contact with one group of unscrupulous people | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
that seem to have changed your outlook. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
I feel extremely sorry for anyone who is duped in the same way, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:22 | |
very sorry. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
This certainly isn't the first time Trading Standards | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
have dealt with a case like this, and it won't be the last. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
So you should be aware of what you can do to protect yourself. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
The best advice is not to just deal with one company, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
try and get quotations from three or four companies. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
If you're dealing with a reputable company, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
they shouldn't expect a big deposit upfront on that day. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
They'll give you time to think about it. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
They should send a surveyor to make sure your property's suitable | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
for solar panels. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
If you feel obliged to pay some money, it's always worth considering | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
using your credit card. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
You have protection under the Consumer Credit Act | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
if things go wrong, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
so do try and make payment or partial payment using that method. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Nobody likes thinking about writing a will, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
but it's essential so that our loved ones are provided for | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
when we go. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
Choose the wrong will writer | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
and you could end up providing for a lot of people you never intended to. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
There are many ways to write a will, including using solicitors, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
going online, and by using will writers. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
And there are many reputable will-writing companies, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
providing a host of benefits, such as advice on how to write a will, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
as well as the safe storage of your will. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
But frustratingly it's an area that is unregulated. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
This is very difficult for the public to actually understand | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
and really identify whether the will writer they've got is someone who is | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
a very proper person who is going to do a good job, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
or it is a person who is perhaps coming to the business | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
from a completely different sector, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
hasn't done any training, hasn't got insurance. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
They still call themselves will writers. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
And sadly, having an unregulated industry can allow fraudsters | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
the opportunity to come knocking, as far too many people find out. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
In 2006, Lincolnshire Police became aware of a firm | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
that had jumped on the will-writing bandwagon, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
extracting thousands of pounds from innocent victims. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
This was just simple theft, it's as simple as that. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It was all hidden away in quite a complex manner, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
but the nuts and bolts of it all is stealing, it's theft. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Mary Neenan from Birmingham had been a close friend | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
to an elderly gentleman called Bert Reeves. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Helping to keep his house clean and tidy, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
she offered him a great deal of support | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
over the last decade of his life. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
He became like my dad. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
My girls came with me when I went to see him. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
We had him here for his birthdays, we did birthday parties, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
so he became like my father and their grandad. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
Bert's wife had passed away some years before, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
and he didn't have any immediate family, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
so when he reached his 90s, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
he set about getting his affairs in order. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Responding to an advert, Bert employed the services | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
of the company Willmakers of Distinction Ltd | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
to assist him in writing a will. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
He wanted to leave his estate to his niece, his neighbour | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and Mary, but he kept this a secret. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Six months after Bert passed away, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Mary was beginning to move on with her life. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
But then, out of the blue, she received a surprise phone call. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
That's when I discovered, when the solicitor that was selling the house | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
was having problems selling it, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
that's when I discovered that I was a beneficiary. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Without Mary's knowledge, Bert had left her nearly £40,000. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:59 | |
But she'd had no contact from Willmakers of Distinction. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
Digging out their number, she left messages | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
for a director, Nicholas Butcher. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
But she was getting no response. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
When I told Mr Butcher that I knew that I was a beneficiary, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
um, and all of that, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
then when I contacted him after I told him that, he never replied. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
And it wasn't long before Mary started having concerns. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
There was something going wrong, there was something not happening. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
Not getting any answers from Willmakers of Distinction, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
she had no option but to call the police. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
She was soon put in touch with Neil Hollingsworth | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
from the Lincolnshire force. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
There was a guy, Nicholas Butcher. He'd been to prison and come out. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
We'd been given intelligence | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
that he was working for Willmakers of Distinction Ltd, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
which is pretty much the area in which he'd committed criminality. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:59 | |
So we'd had concerns, if I can say that. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
However, nothing ever came of it, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
but of course when we first get this report from the lady in Birmingham, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
that it's Willmakers of Distinction Ltd, we immediately think | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
this is where Nicholas Butcher's working, so there were concerns. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
With Butcher's name ringing in his ears, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Neil quickly went to visit Mary to try and piece together | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
what happened in the lead-up to Bert's death. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Mary told Neil about the day | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
she discovered he'd decided to make a will. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
I let the gentleman into his house. When I discovered what he was doing, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
I thought, I don't want to be involved in this. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
This is his own personal, private business. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
So I left him to get on with doing the will. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Mary headed upstairs to clean, giving Bert some privacy, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
and the will was signed and sealed. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
The advert in Bert's local paper was offering wills for just £19.99. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
If a company, a will-writing company, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
is offering knockdown-price wills for £20, £25, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
the question that must be asked is, how are they making money? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
They may want to try and sell extra products to boost up the price. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:12 | |
Neil wanted to find out | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
if Bert had parted with any more during his meeting | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
and asked Mary if she remembered anything. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
He'd asked me to go and get some money from his safe, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
and that was... I brought him down over £200. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
It was obvious that Willmakers of Distinction | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
had got Bert to sign up for more than just a basic will. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
So what exactly had he signed up to? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
They may want to be appointed as executors to control | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
the assets once the person has died. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
That's exactly what happened. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Once in his house, the salesman from Willmakers of Distinction | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
had convinced Bert that he could rely on them to follow through | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
with his last wishes. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
The reason he made them executors was not to trouble anybody else, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
and he put his full trust in this gentleman that done the will. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
Soon after, Bert became ill, and he passed the details | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
of Willmakers of Distinction Ltd to Mary | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
so she'd know who to phone upon his death. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Sadly, a few months later, Bert was transferred into a care home, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
where he died. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
Mary still had no idea that she'd been written into his will, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
but doing the right thing, she informed people of his death. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
I contacted Willmakers of Distinction after I'd sorted out his funeral. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
And I spoke to a Mr Butcher. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
As Willmakers of Distinction were now in charge of Bert's estate, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Nicholas Butcher soon arranged to meet Mary, to get hold of Bert's | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
personal details, including his bank account information. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
We just went to the pub across the road and had lunch together. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
He seemed quite a nice gentleman. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
Throughout the lunch, the contents of Bert's will was never | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
mentioned to Mary. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
Butcher took the details and quietly went on his way. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Some months later, Mary received a call from the solicitor, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
informing her that Bert had left her a third of his estate... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
with an approximate value of £40,000. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
After leaving numerous messages for Nicholas Butcher | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and receiving no reply, Mary called the police. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
My problem was there was three people | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
that were beneficiaries to a will, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
and that the amount of money that we would have all received | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
would have been a life-changing amount of money for all of us. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
Neil was shocked but not surprised to hear that | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Bert's money had vanished. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
He wanted to find out where Bert's money was and why it hadn't yet | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
been given to his chosen beneficiaries. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Hoping to get some quick answers, he headed straight for | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
the offices of Willmakers of Distinction Ltd. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
I was hoping to rather find that it was still there, and that there | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
was an easy explanation for all of this, of course. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
The point is, when I got there, it was just locked doors. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Neil had quickly discovered that the bird had flown. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
The building was now a building site | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
but there were still signs of the business left behind. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
They occupied this whole building here, the reception area. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
They employed about 20 people here, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
a bank of telephonists, a bank of will drafters, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
as well as Mr Nash and Mr Butcher. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
After discovering that the premises were completely empty, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
Neil researched the company further and discovered | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Mary's worst nightmare. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Willmakers of Distinction had gone into liquidation, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
and there were other cases as well as my own. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
So the next port of call for Neil was to interview the liquidators. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
They confirmed that they had not been satisfied | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
with the reasons for the liquidation. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
So, Neil set about finding out exactly who was behind this company. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
I knew of Nicholas Butcher. It became apparent the man in charge | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
was David Nash. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
David Nash was a well-known businessman | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
and former Lincoln City Football Club vice-president. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Searching for further background information on the company, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Neil paid a visit to their accountant, who had some growing | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
concerns about the state of their accounts. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Taking Neil through the accounts step by step, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
he was able to see how much money each person had in their estate. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
But there was something that didn't add up. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
Large, round-figure amounts | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
were being transferred from the supposedly safe trustee account | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
into the day-to-day bank account of Willmakers of Distinction. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
All these entries in yellow, 2,000, 10,000, and it goes on and on, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:53 | |
on every page of this document, you can see these monies going in. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Neil could see something was very wrong and needed further answers. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
So, he set out to uncover the wills relating to all the estates | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
on the accountant's list. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Meanwhile, Mary had managed to get hold of David Nash's mobile number. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
She wanted the answer to one question - where was Bert's money? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
He said not to be stupid, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
that those companies had insurance, everybody would get money, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
Mary was simply being sold yet another lie. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
However, Neil was starting to make some progress. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Having recovered the wills from the probate office, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
we then start contacting beneficiaries | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
to see if they've been paid out, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
and there was a story to be told in each one. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Going through each estate using the accountant's spreadsheet, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Neil could clearly see | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
that money due to people quite simply hadn't been handed over. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Through the liquidators, Neil saw that Willmakers of Distinction Ltd | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
had operated a franchise. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
David Nash had sold the rights | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
to trade under the Willmakers of Distinction name. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Neil managed to track down details of one of the franchise owners, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
who shed further light on the business. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
One other area of criminality we've discovered | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
is that they were selling pre-paid funerals. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
People would pay the money, £1,200, £1,500 for a funeral, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
and then they didn't go on and buy these funerals from the companies | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
they were brokering for, they pocketed the money. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
With a mountain of detailed evidence, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
it was finally time for Neil to arrest David Nash. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
We arrested David Nash at his home address, and we searched it. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
In the course of searching it | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
we found various papers. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
In amongst those papers, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
there was the will for one of the estates they'd been managing. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
But all the paperwork for it was sat in his garage, in a cardboard box. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
With all the evidence in place, Neil contacted Mary with the news. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
Then when I spoke to the police | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
they said there were several cases and they were taking them to court. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
That's when I realised that was the end. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
But even after all the evidence was presented to Nash, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
he still tried to tough it out. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
He was adamant that he was innocent. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
However, about a month before the trial was set, he did plead guilty. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
David Nash was convicted of six counts of theft | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
and three counts of fraudulent trading. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
He received three-and-a-half years. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
One down, one to go. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
It didn't take long before Neil tracked down Nicholas Butcher | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and brought him in for questioning. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
He went down the same route as Nash, at first claiming his innocence, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and then changing his plea to guilty on the day of his trial. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
Butcher also got three-and-a-half years. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
He was convicted of the thefts and the fraudulent tradings | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and serves a maximum of three-and-a-half years. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
At last the men who had conned over £400,000 of cash from customers | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
were facing jail. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
We are at the stage | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
where we've confiscated assets following the convictions. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
We took £50,000-odd from Mr Nash. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
We didn't get an awful lot from Mr Butcher | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
because he didn't have an awful lot. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
We took £2,000-odd off him. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Mary, who was due to receive approximately £40,000, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
won't get anything, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
apart from a degree of satisfaction. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
I'm absolutely delighted, but I didn't think they got enough time. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
Three-and-a-half years just wasn't enough for what they'd done. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
If you're concerned about getting caught up in a similar scam, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
there are things you can do to help protect yourself. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
At the moment, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
the safest course of action must be to go to a solicitor, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
who is regulated and will offer the protection. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
For further advice on how to protect yourselves against scams, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
go to the website - | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
Before we go, there's just time to tell you | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
about the latest scams out there. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I've come to meet an expert from the National Fraud Authority, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
to get the lowdown on what you should be watching out for. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Today, we're looking at scams that happen via your e-mail. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
A lot of people out there will have received an e-mail, usually, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
from a nice gentleman saying that he's got a lot of money for them, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
if they'll help him out. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
We are talking astronomical sums. Millions and millions and millions. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
-That's what they hook you in with. -How much could you lose? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
You could pay lots of transactions | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
amounting to thousands of pounds and end up with nothing. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
So, always be on your guard, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
be sceptical of people contacting you out of the blue | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
asking for money. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:12 | |
And don't believe the promise of large sums of cash. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
Next, another e-mail scam. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
This time it's someone pretending to be your bank. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
They will be asking for your personal finance details, your passwords, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
your credit card details, that sort of thing, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
trying to get you to give your details to the fraudsters | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
so they can enter your bank account. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Why do people go for it? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
It just looks so good, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Banks never ask for your account details or passwords via e-mail. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
Don't hand them out. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
If you're ever unsure, contact your bank directly. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
It doesn't matter how clever the scam is, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
if you recognise the signs, you'll always be one step ahead. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Stay safe. See you next time. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
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