Scenes from a Teenage Killing


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I was there on the spot when it happened, right here.

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Just nothing I could do to help him.

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-Reporters have said it's a gang war. It wasn't.

-It's nothing like that.

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If it was a gang war, why did two people get hurt?

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It would be a lot more than two people getting hurt.

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"A teenager was stabbed to death in an orgy of violence

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"and regulars clashed with a gang of thugs outside a pub.

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"Shevon Wilson, 17, collapsed in a pool of blood

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"as around 30 young men brawled

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"in a tough area of Bristol yesterday."

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There's some hostility about because that's where it happened. It happened outside that pub.

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The person that done it come out from that pub. So, obviously, people are not happy about it.

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The police are taking the piss. They're standing out here

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all the time, mocking us, they want us to do something. They want the excuse.

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"Crazed attackers, some barely teenagers, grabbed bricks and bicycle parts to batter each other.

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"Locals blame the violence on a gang known as the Speedwell Crew

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"or the Top Lot, who entered The World's End pub looking for trouble."

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The first article that I read in the paper said that 30 youths come down to this pub,

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hooded up, basically looking for trouble, when that didn't happen. You know what I'm saying?

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"It is believed regulars then fought back

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"and a mass battle sprawled outside."

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If I wasn't there and I just read the paper, I woke up on Saturday morning and I read the paper,

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you get what I'm saying, and I just heard that, I would think, yeah, well, OK, it was a big fight.

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It was a big fight and yeah, he got stabbed, well, they shouldn't have been fighting,

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or something like that. That's what I would think.

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You get what I'm saying? If I wasn't there. But I was there, innit.

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"After being stabbed, Shevon was rushed to hospital,

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"but he later died from his wounds."

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Just makes me feel shame, like...

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Like, we're the bad ones, if you know what I mean.

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Everything's just put on us, just because we're a group of mates

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who hang around up by a local shop, wearing hoodies.

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-Police...

-From my point of view, investigating murder, and my team,

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what generally comes across is that there's never a reason for why these things happen.

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Erm, I think we've dealt with about nine murders in the last 12 months,

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and if you watch the cop shows on TV and everyone's talking about motive, you need motive, what's the motive?

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None of the jobs I've dealt with have had any kind of motive whatsoever. They've all been over stupid things.

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This stair and this stair had, like, two huge pools of blood on them.

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It looks like, basically, it's a drag mark and then a step down

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and there's blood in the shoe and it's sort of spattered out.

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If there are difficult questions,

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then we do have to face them head-on.

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Yeah. Need to be keen to stress that it's not organised crime.

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They're groups of lads, they're not gangs.

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The victim isn't known to us, full stop.

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The cause of death in the PM yesterday, there's three causes which all follow on from each other.

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The main cause of death is multi-organ failure,

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which was caused by hypovolemic shock,

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which is essentially blood loss.

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The stab wound is between nine and 11 centimetres deep.

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-OK.

-And it's an angle upwards and inwards. It's about there.

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-Slightly up and slightly pointed to the inside of the body.

-Right.

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Single wound, that took out both his femoral artery and femoral vein.

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According to the pathologist, essentially he was dead as soon as it happened.

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-There was no chance of him surviving.

-Right.

-Huge blood loss.

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There was some blood on the door here.

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Any of the green arrows are blood swabs that we've taken.

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The red arrows on the floor are footwear marks in blood.

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This room is surprisingly tidy, compared to how we found it.

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The television table had been upturned with the television on the floor, which is damaged.

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The vase had been thrown.

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This weekend was the end of Ramadan, which is fasting, and the start of the Eid festival.

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And as a result, traditionally, the young Asian lads go out celebrating.

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And on Sunday night, a group of lads from Bolton

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and a group of lads from the Oldham/Bradford area

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have all ended up in town celebrating Eid in Manchester city centre.

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By coincidence, they all end up staying in Victoria Buildings.

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It's not a hotel, it's more like serviced apartments, but they do rent them out on a nightly basis.

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As the night goes on, there starts to develop a bit of tension

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between the two groups, and we don't know why exactly.

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At which point, there's a massive fight.

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23 is completely trashed, and eventually, there's a bit of hand-to-hand combat, if you like.

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And at the front of that hand-to-hand appears to be our victim, Zhen.

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And at some stage in that melee, he receives a stab wound.

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We know from the suspect accounts that he is stabbed by a man who comes out of that bedroom there.

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And there is some blood there, albeit not a great deal.

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We also believe that Zhen manages to walk.

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-So we assume that he gets to the door here and this blood here is probably Zhen's.

-Yeah.

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-The next bit is his four friends, carrying Zhen out.

-And they're obviously struggling.

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They drop him a couple of times and that's probably why the blood is on the carpet everywhere.

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-The next people you see come down now are the other contingent.

-The Oldham lads.

-Yeah.

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So, if we go through these slowly... He's got a bottle in his right hand.

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Bottle in his right hand. Bottle in his right hand. Stick.

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Don't think anything at all. Stick. And this lad here, he's got a bottle in his left hand

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and in his right hand, you see a glint, which I think is a knife. But if I show you that slowly...

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There. Just see that glint then? There. About the size of a knife.

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Now, this knife block is similar to the one that's been recovered out of 39,

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minus that.

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There's two knives been found in the bedroom at 23.

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One of them fits the wound,

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according to the vascular surgeon that repaired Zhen's leg, and also the pathologist.

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That's his friends who brought him out the building, they're now trying

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to give him CPR and trying to stop the blood flow.

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Zhen's family speak about him as this sort of glowing light in their lives.

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Educated, bright young man. He's 18 years old, you know.

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He's at the start of his life. Loads of people in Bolton knew him as this

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bright, bubbly kid that was always happy and that had loads of friends.

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-So they know he's dying, don't they?

-Yeah.

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Going back to the scene on the Monday morning when the cops arrive, they're met by a real chaotic mess.

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They see a lot of young Asian lads, a lot of them agitated.

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Some have got tops on, some haven't. Some with blood, some with injuries.

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And they make the decision to lock everybody up for violent disorder.

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And from the accounts, there are at least two of the suspects have described

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a man who was fighting with Zhen in room 23.

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And he's described - quite a distinctive lad -

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over six feet tall with an unusual beard and heavy build.

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So he is called Shahab Rahim.

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We have four key witnesses now who saw Rahim fighting with Zhen at the time he was stabbed,

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and if they'd been sober at the time and if they hadn't been arrested, it would be a clear case.

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Unfortunately, they weren't sober, and they were arrested, so it makes it more difficult for us.

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-Are you fit and well?

-Yes.

-Any injuries?

-No.

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-Any medication?

-No.

-Drugs problems?

-No.

-Mental health problems?

-No.

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-Ever tried to hurt yourself?

-No.

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He presents as an intelligent, softly-spoken, polite guy.

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But the evidence, even at this stage, against him, I feel, is quite strong.

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Can you see that male there, Shahab?

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-No comment.

-Is that you?

-No comment.

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You've got Zhen's blood on your right shoulder,

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-can you explain to me how that got to be on your T-shirt?

-No comment.

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-How has that happened?

-No comment.

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Sometimes you get away with no comment if the police evidence is a bit thin,

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and sometimes they ask, "Have you got a statement?"

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We say, "We're not telling you," and that generally means we haven't.

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But we've got these four statements, we've got this blood, we've got CCTV.

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We've got the knife from the room you were in

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and you already told us you were in the room. That's a lot of evidence.

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All you can do is look at me and say no comment,

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-and that ain't good enough, is it?

-No comment.

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Bearing in mind this is a murder inquiry - I think you stabbed Zhen.

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I think you murdered Zhen Asghar, what do you think of that?

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No comment.

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I do feel that we're looking at the right person here.

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And I think a dispute over something as simple as a £20 note or a CD,

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I think, from what's coming out of the other interviews, could have started this situation.

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The phrase being used was "being disrespected".

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It's a common term amongst kids, isn't it?

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And I think it comes from the States, as in dissing somebody.

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That, ultimately, it would appear, is the reason that Zhen has been killed.

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There's a lot of talk of gangs generally throughout the public now.

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It's quite a trendy thing to talk about.

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From a police point of view, we don't refer to them as gangs, we refer to them as organised crime groups.

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Some people refer to gangs as a group of lads that hang around together,

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and if that's the truth, then we were all in a gang as kids.

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That's not what this is about.

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'Good evening to you from Points West.

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'A 17-year-old boy who was stabbed to death in Bristol early yesterday morning has been named by police.

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'Shevon Wilson was fatally wounded in the chest during a fight outside The World's End pub in St George...'

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Well, I was angry all the time because someone had murdered my brother.

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The pub was open still and people were still going in and out of the pub,

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almost as though nothing had happened, as though, you know, someone hadn't been murdered.

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And I think if the pub had been closed, it would have shown

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some sort of respect for what had happened outside the pub.

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Did you think of closing the pub afterwards or shutting the pub down for a few days?

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No way. No. Goodness gracious! Why should we let it affect all the other customers who use the pub?

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-It was nothing to do with the pub.

-It was nothing to do with the pub.

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How could that happen outside your pub the night before and you don't even shut your doors?

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He should have paid respect and closed that pub.

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If I closed, it's just a closed door.

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But if I'm there, people can ask what the hell went on.

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I was there to tell them.

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There was a lot of hostility between the locals in the pub and my brother's friends.

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They were sat on one side of the road, the locals were on the other side of the road

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coming in and out of the pub, and it was just a very tense atmosphere,

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and it wasn't needed at that time.

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The guy who stabbed him or killed him, that's his uncle whose pub it is.

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So they're all family.

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Half of the shit what was written in the paper, all the lies, was because of them.

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They were blaming us, saying that the attacker was our nephew, for a start-off, which he wasn't.

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And, er, it was just our fault.

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No rhyme, no reason to it. Nothing.

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Couldn't make head or tail of it half the time.

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They just needed somebody to blame.

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It was like The Birds.

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-All in their black hoodies, looking around like that.

-The Birds?

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-The film.

-The Birds, you know.

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I thought something was going to happen,

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to be honest, because there was a lot of angry people, just thinking,

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why it happened. Why, like, you know what I mean?

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And you just couldn't stand looking at anyone who come from that pub.

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So I think eventually that's why the decision was made to have a bench,

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and move the flowers and things up into Meadow Vale opposite the shops,

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where they could kind of go and pay their respects without any problems or any hostility.

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How important is this shrine, is this place now to you?

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This is very important. If anybody come up here and disrespected it, I will go mad.

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-Then there'll be something in the paper about that.

-Yeah, that would be summat to write about.

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That's when you can come out saying that we started this shit.

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At the end of the day, my brethren got murdered.

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-He's an innocent guy, yeah? He doesn't deserve this shit, yeah?

-Don't worry. Don't get emotional.

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So, I'm just saying, anyone want to disrespect anything you see here, yeah, anyone wants to disrespect it,

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then that's when the papers can have the excuse

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-to start writing shit about us.

-That's when they can write what they writ.

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They were under the impression, the youngsters,

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that I'd sold a story, you know, to the News of the World.

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One of them turned round, I just remember this - "How much did you get paid for it?"

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There's no way I got paid for anything.

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Nobody's even spoken to me from the News of the World.

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"A teenager was stabbed to death in an orgy of violence

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"and regulars clashed with a gang of thugs outside a pub."

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-We're not even a gang, we're friends, and even then, we don't look...

-It's just the way we dress.

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Friends... We call our friends family.

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Just because certain kids is unified, d'you get me?

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Just because there is unity in this community, people see it as a gang.

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But it's not that. And I hear people saying it.

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-Why do they say it, do you think?

-Because they're mentally not on the same level, you get me?

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They're mentally circumcised in their intellect.

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"The locals blame the violence on a gang known as the Speedwell Crew

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"or the Top Lot, who entered The World's End pub looking for trouble."

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And they're putting shit in the paper about a gang from Speedwell,

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also known as the Top Lot. I don't know where that come from.

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I think during the initial reporting, they felt

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they were misrepresented in the press - that it was a gang, that...

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They were in a gang, there was a whole gang of them.

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There was nobody else here, love. Nobody!

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Have you read The News of the World?

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Erm, they were misrepresented.

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Er, they didn't come in the pub looking for trouble.

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There was no fight in the pub.

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There was no fight outside.

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Now, I cannot get that retracted.

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-Is that a young man?

-No.

-It's not. He's not here at the moment.

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That means he's in there, or the family are viewing.

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This is Abdul Karim here.

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I've worked here five, nearly six years, and a murder would come along now and then, a murder case.

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In the last two years, it has been horrific,

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and we're a small, small undertaker.

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I'm so sorry that you've had to lose a friend like this.

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-Are you OK, sister?

-Yeah, I'm fine.

-It's all right, don't worry. It's natural.

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I don't know how, if I was your age, how to cope.

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I've never experienced this. How did you know him, was he a friend, a school friend?

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We went to school together, he lived on my estate. We saw him every day.

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-So you've known him quite a few years.

-Yeah.

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But in a generation sort of thing, like,

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it's a thing that happens every day, so... it's corrupted, like.

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Maybe 20 or 30 years ago, like, it wasn't as bad as this,

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but because it's something that we see every day,

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you just get used to it, kind of - well, not used to it, but...

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-You learn how to deal with it, I think.

-Yeah, definitely.

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-How old are you guys?

-16.

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Wow. So you've got the whole of your life ahead of you.

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-But you never know when it's going to go.

-Yeah, definitely.

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As a Muslim, we are ready to go and thank God,

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because our religion says,

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whatever happen to you, it says, you have to thank God...

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..because He has decided.

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And I thank God, of course, but...

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But I still miss him so much.

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God has a good reason for all these people passing.

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I don't know what that is, I couldn't even fathom what it is.

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You have to believe, though, that everything that happens on earth is down to God's will.

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So although it's really hard, we ask you please, don't let your tears fall

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on his coffin cloth, because that would make the washing null and void.

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And also, talk to him, because he can hear everything - but say nice things to him.

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If you're all crying and screaming and waling, he can hear that and imagine how he feels.

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Part of my religion, we are not allowed to cry a lot,

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because...

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..we say you are hurting your child.

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He is not going to be comfortable.

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So...

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I hope God is not going to punish me for this, but...

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..I cry. I know it's bad for my son but I cannot help it.

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At night-time, sometimes, I wear my son's clothes and go out and walk.

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Like I feel no-one is going to see me when I cry or scream.

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I wear his clothes every day, every single day.

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I cannot take his clothes off.

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I felt like I was blessed to know him. He wasn't a...

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He had his head screwed on.

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Like, most boys these days, out of all of them, he was one of the good ones.

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He knew what he... He wanted something out of life.

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He wanted to go somewhere. He wanted to go places.

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Is the first time that a friend of yours has been killed?

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No, I've had three friend killed.

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And this is the second one in my year from my school.

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HE SPEAKS ARABIC

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One by one. Give some to somebody else, please, because that is full. That's it.

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Over here, fill up this side, please.

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-So how long you been here, Jibbs?

-Me?

-Yeah.

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All night.

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-All night.

-All night.

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-Everyone was out all night?

-Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No sleep, look at me.

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-What about you, Kamari, you out all night?

-Yeah.

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What was it like?

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Tiring.

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-Tiring?

-Yeah.

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-I saw there was a tent up there - whose is the tent?

-I slept in it.

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I don't know, I just woke up in it.

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I'm here every night.

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-Why's that?

-Cos I should.

0:23:340:23:37

If you're walking down the road and there's half a dozen, three or four or whatever...

0:23:370:23:42

-Even you would cross over!

-..hoodies on that side of the road,

0:23:420:23:46

you're intimidated, and that's how I would describe them.

0:23:460:23:50

They're very intimidating, they know they are.

0:23:500:23:53

And they love it. They love it.

0:23:530:23:57

I think, erm,

0:23:570:23:59

a few of the neighbours had said that sometimes they found the group quite intimidating,

0:23:590:24:05

but I mean Shevon was always the kind of guy that if somebody was walking down the street,

0:24:050:24:10

you know, and their group of friends was blocking the pavement, he would

0:24:100:24:12

always say, "Come on, guys, move out the way, you know, somebody's trying to walk past."

0:24:120:24:17

And they'd listen to him, and they'd move. So he always considered, you know, what was going on around him.

0:24:170:24:24

You got some scars, haven't you, Jibbs?

0:24:240:24:26

Yeah.

0:24:280:24:30

Got scars.

0:24:320:24:33

That one.

0:24:350:24:37

I got stabbed in my belly and they had to cut me open and

0:24:370:24:39

stitch up my bowels, because they punctured my bowels and that.

0:24:390:24:43

And then on my back, innit.

0:24:430:24:46

Hit my spinal cord and punctured like the bag, the fluid bag that goes from your spine to your brain.

0:24:460:24:52

So I couldn't sit up or nothing for week and a half.

0:24:520:24:54

Couldn't move, nothing.

0:24:540:24:56

They said I could be paralysed.

0:24:560:24:59

Punctured my lungs, scars under my chin there.

0:24:590:25:04

-What was that over?

-Wrong place, wrong time.

0:25:040:25:05

What's this game, Kam?

0:25:100:25:12

Call Of Duty.

0:25:120:25:14

Oh, my...

0:25:140:25:16

What's the purpose of the game?

0:25:170:25:19

Merk everyone. Oh, see. Merk them.

0:25:190:25:23

-What?

-Merk them.

0:25:230:25:25

-Merked.

-What's that?

0:25:250:25:27

Got killed.

0:25:270:25:29

Ooh, merked him.

0:25:300:25:34

It's just a word, innit?

0:25:340:25:36

Merk. Murdered. Killed.

0:25:360:25:39

Every day, I play. That's what makes me think of Shev.

0:25:390:25:42

Every day, turn that on, Shev would be on it.

0:25:420:25:44

It'd say "Wilson 909", cos we used to play online.

0:25:440:25:48

-And how long has it been now?

-Three weeks today.

0:25:480:25:51

Every Friday, man. I just think about it every Friday, innit?

0:25:510:25:55

On Monday it's his funeral, innit?

0:25:550:25:57

-Funeral?

-Yeah.

0:25:570:25:59

Gonna be a massive funeral. Too much people, like.

0:25:590:26:02

He was so kind. People love him.

0:26:020:26:05

Don't understand, man.

0:26:050:26:07

Not been to a funeral of a young person?

0:26:070:26:10

No... No.

0:26:100:26:13

COMPUTER GAME BLARES

0:26:160:26:20

We did go to the graveyard,

0:26:580:27:00

cos I wanted to see where he was buried, so we seen it.

0:27:000:27:04

Do you know that other part, not that part, the bottom part?

0:27:040:27:09

About, on the bottom row, about one, two, three, four, the fourth one,

0:27:090:27:16

this way, that was his grave.

0:27:160:27:19

Mam, when Ian got killed, he got stabbed seven times.

0:27:290:27:34

One on his heart, one there,

0:27:340:27:37

three, four, five, six, seven.

0:27:370:27:43

How do you know that he got stabbed in those places and that many times?

0:27:430:27:47

Cos I know that somebody told me they got stabbed seven times.

0:27:490:27:53

You told me that.

0:27:530:27:55

I haven't told you he got stabbed seven times.

0:27:550:27:57

I don't know how many times he got stabbed.

0:27:570:27:59

Maya told me, when she lived next door.

0:27:590:28:01

Even though we didn't know Ian at all, it worried me that he was just accepting that this was

0:28:020:28:10

a normal thing to happen, and I think because there was so much violence in the area, so many violent fights that

0:28:100:28:17

went on, and that he was aware of and that he could hear, he just thought it was just another incident.

0:28:170:28:24

When Ellie and me are asleep, we always look out the bedroom window.

0:28:300:28:35

She always does this.

0:28:350:28:36

See if there's any like naughty kids outside, isn't it, Ben?

0:28:390:28:42

To see what they're doing.

0:28:420:28:44

I think if Ian had lived, I'd have been really, really glad that I'd gone out,

0:28:460:28:52

but because he died anyway at the scene,

0:28:520:28:55

I wish now that I hadn't heard anything and we still sat in that front room and watched telly.

0:28:550:29:00

I always wish that.

0:29:000:29:02

Myself and my children were sitting in the front room of our house.

0:29:040:29:08

I remember we were watching Britain's Got Talent, because its Ben's favourite.

0:29:080:29:13

My sister's friend went upstairs and then she saw loads of people,

0:29:130:29:17

like a big group of people, in the back alley out the window.

0:29:170:29:21

So she ran down and had a look and we all followed her,

0:29:210:29:24

and then my mam came out to tell us to come back in, but then someone shouted, "He's been stabbed."

0:29:240:29:30

She ran out with a tea towel and said, "Move out the way, cos I'm a nurse."

0:29:300:29:34

I can't remember anything else.

0:29:340:29:36

I recognised somebody that I knew in the crowd.

0:29:360:29:39

He lived over the road from me.

0:29:390:29:41

And I asked him to help me to put the towel over the wound

0:29:410:29:45

and apply pressure, whilst I did CPR, because I realised at that point that he'd stopped breathing.

0:29:450:29:51

After he'd been stabbed, Ellie said he'd been took to hospital and died in hospital.

0:29:510:29:59

Fortunately, afterwards I found out that Ben had stayed in the house watching Britain's Got Talent,

0:29:590:30:04

so the first he knew of it was when I came back in the house and I was covered in blood.

0:30:040:30:11

I was just devastated when I found out how young he was.

0:30:130:30:17

I can, to this day, remember his mam

0:30:170:30:20

screaming and crying.

0:30:200:30:22

My mam got asked to go to court for a witness and then

0:30:260:30:30

all the teenagers on the street just started calling my mam a grass

0:30:300:30:36

for talking to the police about what she saw.

0:30:360:30:39

And then they were threatening to, like, set our house on fire.

0:30:390:30:44

There've been lots of incidents where maybe 16 youths would be in my garden refusing to leave.

0:30:460:30:53

And then one day three of them came to my front gate and told me that

0:30:530:30:59

they were going to take my little boy, Ben, and basically they were going to rape him.

0:30:590:31:06

There were direct threats on many occasions about me giving evidence at court.

0:31:070:31:13

Even though I actually hadn't witnessed the murder, I had witnessed

0:31:130:31:19

things before and after of the use of weapons.

0:31:190:31:23

But I knew that I couldn't give evidence and carry on

0:31:250:31:29

living there, because it was too dangerous and I was frightened.

0:31:290:31:33

That one. This one that I'm standing on. When all that's moved, all this bit

0:31:370:31:43

is going to be my room.

0:31:430:31:47

Do you like the new place better than the old house?

0:31:470:31:49

I miss my old house, that's the best one.

0:31:490:31:52

Our stuff was in boxes for about 16 weeks and the police said they would help us.

0:31:520:31:57

They got in touch with the housing association and told them that they wanted us moving within the week.

0:31:570:32:04

16 weeks later we were still there.

0:32:040:32:06

So I found us somewhere to live.

0:32:060:32:09

It's not an ideal flat at all, but it was better than where we were.

0:32:090:32:15

This is the toilet. And then...

0:32:150:32:20

This is the shower in here.

0:32:230:32:24

We've got the kitchen sink,

0:32:280:32:29

but then for, like, brushing our teeth and that it's in the front room.

0:32:290:32:34

-There.

-And that's the only sink in the house apart from the kitchen one?

0:32:400:32:43

-Yeah.

-And that's in your bedroom?

0:32:430:32:45

Yeah.

0:32:450:32:46

DANCE MUSIC PLAYS

0:32:460:32:48

What's that noise?

0:32:480:32:49

Just music from people playing it upstairs.

0:32:490:32:53

I've told them to shut up about a million and 164 million times.

0:32:530:32:58

-Is it like that all the time?

-I don't know.

0:32:580:33:01

Well, it has been like all the day, mainly.

0:33:010:33:04

Yeah.

0:33:080:33:09

The house is a bit backside first and...unorthodox, I suppose.

0:33:110:33:16

I mean, there's no gas central heating,

0:33:160:33:19

so we've got some oil-filled radiators,

0:33:190:33:24

-so we'll have heat, but it's OK, isn't it, Ellie?

-Yeah.

0:33:240:33:28

Yeah.

0:33:280:33:29

Just do things bit by bit.

0:33:290:33:33

My mam went to court as a witness and the family that it happened to, like the boy that got murdered,

0:33:380:33:45

they were really thankful for my mum for going into court, cos she didn't have to.

0:33:450:33:49

I'd never met his mum before,

0:33:490:33:51

and she just gave me a hug, and so did his younger brother,

0:33:510:33:55

and just said, "Thank you so much for coming and giving evidence."

0:33:550:33:59

And I just thought, yeah, it is worth it. It is.

0:33:590:34:03

I just hope that somebody would do it if it was one of my children.

0:34:030:34:06

So what if it was you, or you saw somebody injured in the street like that?

0:34:080:34:12

I would just automatically call an ambulance, because I wouldn't want to get

0:34:120:34:17

involved with it too much, because I've learnt from when my mum got involved with it.

0:34:170:34:24

I don't think that it clicked in straight away.

0:34:390:34:42

I said, "No way can this be true."

0:34:420:34:44

And then, obviously, as time goes on and stuff, it gets more real.

0:34:440:34:48

At the funeral, it got real.

0:34:480:34:50

Like, seeing all your friends all suited up, it should be for a wedding, not a funeral.

0:34:520:34:56

Purple, that was his favourite colour, wasn't it?

0:35:000:35:02

I used to say to him,

0:35:020:35:05

like, "Why do you like purple?

0:35:050:35:07

"That's a girlie colour." But he's like, "No, that's my colour."

0:35:070:35:10

It's always been his colour.

0:35:100:35:12

It was a no-win situation, really.

0:35:220:35:25

If I went to the funeral, it was, "What's he doing there?"

0:35:250:35:29

You know? If I didn't go, it's,

0:35:290:35:32

"Huh, couldn't give a damn. Couldn't care less," you know?

0:35:320:35:36

So why did you go?

0:35:400:35:42

To show my respect.

0:35:420:35:43

For his family.

0:35:430:35:45

I've got nothing to hide.

0:35:450:35:48

Got no axe to grind.

0:35:480:35:51

As a kid, what do you know about Shevon?

0:35:530:35:55

Until I saw his picture in the papers, I didn't know who he was.

0:35:550:35:59

He was always quite quiet.

0:36:010:36:03

Very shy. And me and my sister, we used to tease him all the time.

0:36:030:36:08

I think out of his friends sometimes he was quite a positive role model, and it definitely shows that in

0:36:090:36:15

some of the tributes that they wrote once he passed away, that they looked up to him, I think.

0:36:150:36:20

I don't know, someone would say, "Oh, I've seen a car down there and the door's open, blah di blah."

0:36:200:36:27

Some of them would be like, "Yeah, come on, let's go,"

0:36:270:36:30

but he would've been one of them to say, "No, I can't be bothered with that shit."

0:36:300:36:33

Just the same as me and a couple of the others.

0:36:330:36:36

He was basically setting his life up good, cos he had a moped

0:36:370:36:40

and his apprenticeship that would've led to good money.

0:36:400:36:44

He used to talk about it all the time, like working on the coaches, working on buses,

0:36:440:36:48

and he actually liked it.

0:36:480:36:50

All I got is good memories, and they'll always live with me.

0:36:510:36:55

Always.

0:36:560:36:57

Like, I'll never forget the time over the park when we were playing

0:36:580:37:02

football and he said to me, "I bet you I'll volley this ball

0:37:020:37:07

"over there all the way to hit the crossbar,"

0:37:070:37:09

and I said, "You're not doing that first time,"

0:37:090:37:12

and he's like, "Do you wanna bet?"

0:37:120:37:14

So I flicked the ball to him, flicked up to him, and he just whacked it, and it went... Hit the crossbar.

0:37:140:37:20

I was like, "Never!" He's running round the park like, "Yeah!"

0:37:200:37:25

I was just laughing my head off.

0:37:250:37:27

I was like, "You could never do that again in a million years."

0:37:270:37:31

David's the chunky one.

0:37:580:38:00

-He's the one kneeling with his nappy on.

-In the pool.

0:38:000:38:04

He gets clobbered in a minute.

0:38:040:38:05

This is when we realised there was something wrong with David.

0:38:050:38:08

He wasn't interacting like the other kids and he wouldn't necessarily talk to you.

0:38:080:38:14

He'd squeal at you.

0:38:140:38:16

But different squeals meant different things to him.

0:38:160:38:19

Right, you'll see his special wave now. See it?

0:38:190:38:22

Oh, bless him, look at him.

0:38:220:38:24

That's when he wanted something.

0:38:240:38:25

I'd say when he started school, when he were five...

0:38:400:38:43

..that's when I really noticed it,

0:38:450:38:47

cos it was a nightmare.

0:38:470:38:50

At the beginning it was bad behaviour, bad parenting.

0:38:500:38:54

Then they realised that it was nothing to do with that,

0:38:540:38:56

it was something to do with David, so we had to go to Westcotes House and he had to be monitored.

0:38:560:39:02

And they were the ones who said autistic spectrum disorder, but they weren't sure which one it was.

0:39:020:39:10

He used to come and go, "They're calling me half a brain again, Mum."

0:39:100:39:13

They used to go like that to him. Half a brain.

0:39:130:39:16

I mean, he hardly ever went out, did he?

0:39:160:39:19

I think about three times he went out.

0:39:190:39:22

After the third attempt was obviously when he got killed.

0:39:220:39:25

How long's it been now since David died?

0:39:250:39:29

Eight weeks yesterday.

0:39:290:39:31

So it's just dragging on.

0:39:340:39:36

-Dragging on?

-Well, yeah, because obviously they've still not released his body.

0:39:370:39:42

First impressions I saw, it's a stabbing.

0:39:470:39:49

I turned him and there was nothing there.

0:39:490:39:52

I just couldn't understand it.

0:39:520:39:54

Every day is a struggle for me.

0:39:540:39:57

I don't sleep at night now.

0:39:570:39:59

I don't sleep whatsoever.

0:39:590:40:00

I can't sleep, because all I can see is my boy on the floor.

0:40:030:40:06

HE SOBS

0:40:110:40:13

I just want my boy back.

0:40:130:40:15

Heidi? Have you got a second?

0:40:200:40:23

-Have you got some diazepam, please?

-Yeah.

0:40:230:40:26

I just wish I could turn me head off.

0:40:370:40:40

You have to calm yourself down, cos you won't let your kids see you like that.

0:40:430:40:47

I know. That's right.

0:40:470:40:49

You'll have to go in the other room and sort yourself out.

0:40:490:40:52

-Don't let the kids see you, please.

-I know. I can't help it, though.

0:40:520:40:55

Do you want a drink of water?

0:40:550:40:57

Please.

0:40:570:40:59

'Clive, he's completely switched off.'

0:40:590:41:02

He can't cope with it at all.

0:41:020:41:04

He's getting bad nightmares.

0:41:060:41:08

He's getting flashbacks of what happened down there.

0:41:080:41:11

He really needs to speak to someone, to be honest with you.

0:41:110:41:16

Thank you.

0:41:160:41:17

How about you?

0:41:180:41:20

I don't really know what I need or what I want.

0:41:200:41:23

I'm just confused, I think, with all what's going on.

0:41:230:41:27

It's a new situation. You don't know what to do, do you?

0:41:270:41:30

I've never been here before. I don't know.

0:41:300:41:32

So I haven't got a clue.

0:41:330:41:35

All I know is these boys have been bailed.

0:41:360:41:39

They've got no bail conditions set against them, so they can come and go as they please.

0:41:390:41:44

-How do you feel about that?

-Angry.

0:41:460:41:48

So what happens now?

0:41:500:41:53

I'm waiting on the police to get back to me to see what's happening there.

0:41:540:41:58

Obviously, I'm waiting for the coroner to release his body.

0:41:580:42:01

So it's just a waiting game, really.

0:42:010:42:03

Waiting by the phone or me door to knock, so I know some more, to be honest with you.

0:42:030:42:08

I initially got told it'd be 10 to 12 weeks before David would be released.

0:42:110:42:16

10 or 12 weeks went.

0:42:160:42:18

Then I got told there needed to be another autopsy

0:42:180:42:21

and I actually had a go at the family liaison officer,

0:42:210:42:24

accused her of lying to me about how long it was going to take.

0:42:240:42:27

She made a few phone calls and come down to my house, and she says,

0:42:270:42:31

"We can actually give you David, if you want him."

0:42:310:42:34

I'm like, "Fine, fine. When are you going to release him?"

0:42:340:42:37

She goes, "That's the thing.

0:42:370:42:38

"We can release him, but we can't release his brain."

0:42:380:42:42

And I was like, "You're having a laugh."

0:42:420:42:44

I says, "No, my son comes complete with me.

0:42:440:42:47

"I'm not having him incomplete."

0:42:470:42:49

So when I finally got the phone call that they were releasing David,

0:42:490:42:53

that was why it was so traumatic.

0:42:530:42:55

How long had they kept him for?

0:42:570:42:59

Seven and half months.

0:42:590:43:01

-Seven and a half months you've been waiting?

-Yeah. Yeah.

0:43:010:43:06

So, from... Yeah, seven and half now, today.

0:43:060:43:11

Were you given any reason why they kept him for so long?

0:43:110:43:14

Because of all the medical tests they needed to do.

0:43:140:43:17

But why did that take so long?

0:43:170:43:19

Because, in total, he had to have three autopsies and postmortems.

0:43:190:43:24

Do you think this day will make a difference for you as a family now?

0:43:320:43:36

I think it's more accepting it.

0:43:360:43:39

To be honest with you, I think it's more about accepting it's happened and he has gone,

0:43:390:43:44

because it doesn't feel real.

0:43:440:43:46

Maybe this is what we need, you know, to wake us up a bit, I think.

0:43:460:43:51

Oh, my God. Look at you.

0:43:530:43:55

How are you?

0:43:570:43:59

TEARFULLY: Better for seeing you.

0:43:590:44:01

I'm still not coping with everyone around me, though.

0:44:030:44:06

I'm afraid you're going to have to, for today.

0:44:060:44:10

Will you be all right with that?

0:44:100:44:12

Yeah, that'll be fine.

0:44:120:44:14

Oh...for God's sake.

0:44:140:44:17

-I can't look at the car.

-Take a deep breath.

-I have done.

0:44:230:44:26

-You'll be fine.

-It's all right.

0:44:260:44:29

Come on, then, Clive.

0:44:310:44:33

It's the last thing he needs us to do for him.

0:44:330:44:35

Right, this is Billy, David's friend.

0:44:350:44:39

Would you look after him, because I'm going to put him in your car with you, OK?

0:44:390:44:43

Stay with Lyn and Bob.

0:44:430:44:46

Lyn, Bob, Kirsty, Simon and Billy,

0:44:460:44:49

all in the third car.

0:44:490:44:52

-What would be justice for you?

-They're punished for it.

0:45:030:45:06

What kind of punishment?

0:45:060:45:08

Prison.

0:45:080:45:10

Anything. Just to prove that they did do it, and then I can grieve for me son, then.

0:45:110:45:17

-Because you don't think you have yet?

-I haven't even started.

0:45:190:45:22

It was a long, hot, warm night.

0:45:420:45:45

It was quite a busy night. Then I noticed there was a few that I didn't really know.

0:45:450:45:51

We had some young people come in to play round the pool table.

0:45:510:45:54

My grandad was on his perch, if you like, and he asked them for ID,

0:45:540:45:59

and because not all of them had ID, he said they couldn't come in.

0:45:590:46:04

So I said, "Well, look, it's my license, it's my pub,

0:46:040:46:08

"I don't have to let you in and I don't have to give you a reason,

0:46:080:46:12

"but I WILL give you a reason - because there's too many of you and you're too young."

0:46:120:46:18

They didn't disperse like my grandad thought they would, just move on to the next pub.

0:46:180:46:23

They were hanging around outside on the street,

0:46:230:46:26

and then more and more younger kids were coming along

0:46:260:46:32

and it just escalates.

0:46:320:46:35

This forecourt was covered in bikes.

0:46:350:46:37

They dumped their bikes here.

0:46:370:46:39

There were a couple leaning against the car,

0:46:390:46:42

and the chap that's been arrested

0:46:420:46:45

went over to them and said,

0:46:450:46:47

"Come on, you know, don't lean on the car.

0:46:470:46:50

"What's the matter with you?"

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I know that there was a small exchange of words outside the pub,

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and that Shevon had been asked to move off the landlord's car in a rude way.

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You know, can you effing move off of the car?

0:47:030:47:06

Shev has obviously said summat back.

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He might've said, "Oh, shut the fuck up.

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"You don't have to speak to me like I'm a prick," whatever he said back to him.

0:47:110:47:15

So I said, "Leave it, leave it, leave it."

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That was basically it, then.

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That was that. He got off the car.

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About an hour later, we're all leaning back on the car, innit?

0:47:220:47:25

So then he come back out again, but this time he come like he wanted to fight, man.

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-And then what?

-And then the guy left.

0:47:320:47:36

And then the guy come back.

0:47:360:47:38

My man come back in black hoodie, black tracksuit bottoms, hood up

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and a shank.

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And approached Shevon, and we were told that he put his arm around him

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as though he was going to whisper something in his ear, and that's when he stabbed him.

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I rolled over, I'm like, "Shev, did he just shank you?"

0:47:550:47:59

Shev's lifted up his top, innit, looked down and he's like, "Yeah."

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So then that's when I just went nuts, innit.

0:48:040:48:06

Just picked up my bike, started running towards him.

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Chucked it in his face.

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So even if my mind was telling me,

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"No, don't go near him, he got a knife in his hand and he just stabbed your friend,"

0:48:150:48:20

my body was still telling me, "Do it," so I done it, innit.

0:48:200:48:25

And then one of my brother's friends stood on his hand and disarmed him, actually.

0:48:250:48:30

And he dropped the knife, and then that's when all the rest of the men come over.

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And the next thing I know,

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my grandson comes running in from the front room, "Nan, Nan, quick!

0:48:360:48:40

"All hell's broke loose outside."

0:48:400:48:43

Because I'm a member of St John Ambulance, it all just kicked in.

0:48:430:48:48

At first I was only aware of one person who'd been injured, so that's who I ran to.

0:48:480:48:54

And by the time my Sam got to him, they were still beating him up.

0:48:540:48:58

This kid was stood above me screaming, "Let the bastard die,"

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with this breeze block in his hands,

0:49:050:49:08

going to chuck it down on his head.

0:49:080:49:10

I honestly thought that breeze block was going to come down on his head there and then.

0:49:100:49:14

I think it was Jamie, he was still hitting the guy and stuff

0:49:140:49:18

when the police pulled up, jumped out of the car and ran over to him.

0:49:180:49:22

He didn't care, basically, what happened that night.

0:49:220:49:25

He just wanted to hurt the guy.

0:49:250:49:27

What would you do if your friend passed away in front of your eyes,

0:49:270:49:31

and you see the man walking up the road like he hadn't done nothing?

0:49:310:49:34

You were arrested for...?

0:49:340:49:36

Basically wounding with intent on the other man, on the man who stabbed Shev.

0:49:360:49:43

Cos we stopped him.

0:49:430:49:44

I then got called over by my grandad to say there was another casualty.

0:49:440:49:50

I could see that one person was on the floor. As I know now, it was Shevon.

0:49:500:49:53

My Sam went running over to him.

0:49:530:49:57

A lot of people were shouting, "He's been stabbed, he's been stabbed."

0:49:570:50:01

This young girl was holding him and crying, and I said,

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"I'm a first-aider, let me have a look, see what's happening."

0:50:050:50:08

You could see there was blood coming from his shirt,

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and it was coming out pink and frothy, which meant a puncture to the lung.

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As I tried to pull him around from sitting up onto the floor

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to start chest compressions, cos he wasn't breathing,

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it was a bit traumatic for everyone.

0:50:250:50:27

I don't think people knew what I was trying to do.

0:50:270:50:30

They thought I was trying to maybe hurt him again.

0:50:300:50:32

And they were screaming at him.

0:50:320:50:34

They were screaming, "Leave him alone. Leave him alone."

0:50:340:50:37

So I think that's why I was pushed away and people were getting violent with me.

0:50:370:50:42

Some guy had come out to help our mate, who was wounded, yeah,

0:50:420:50:47

cos he knew first aid, but he said that we wouldn't let him get to the boy, cos we were going so mad.

0:50:470:50:54

We told him, if you come near him...

0:50:540:50:56

If that was the case, why was everyone screaming?

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They didn't run to Shev, they ran to him, innit.

0:51:010:51:03

So I returned over to the other gentleman.

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I didn't realise who it was until I cleared up some of the blood,

0:51:060:51:11

and I was a bit in shock when I realised it was somebody I knew.

0:51:110:51:14

He says, "Nan, it's Sam."

0:51:180:51:20

He says, "Action Man."

0:51:200:51:22

Right? And I says, "No, what's he doing here?"

0:51:220:51:26

Cos I'd seen him go home.

0:51:260:51:29

I remember the press saying something about a Facebook row leading to gang violence.

0:52:450:52:50

And I just thought, gang violence?

0:52:500:52:52

Hello! This was a one-on-one thing. In fact, it wasn't even one-on-one.

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It was just someone decided to take a life.

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This is Salum's video. He was dancing.

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Salum was born in Tanzania.

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His mum also, obviously.

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And eventually she'd gone back to Tanzania and he just wanted to stay.

0:53:180:53:24

People come into your life for a reason,

0:53:240:53:28

and in this case, he came into our life

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because he needed a family, so we were his family - that's it.

0:53:320:53:38

He was very serious about where his life was going to go,

0:53:430:53:46

in terms of a career and his education and stuff like that,

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so he was aware that he'd have more of a chance, more opportunities...

0:53:500:53:56

-Over here.

-..in this country, than in Tanzania.

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There was a lot of friends that Salum did have, anyway,

0:54:040:54:06

but he had about four or five boys that he was so close with, you know,

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and I know that this boy was one of them.

0:54:120:54:16

When I see him today, I'm going to be thinking,

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how can you say you're not guilty?

0:54:260:54:29

Number one, you said you was. Number two, everybody knows you done it.

0:54:290:54:33

You didn't do it in secret.

0:54:330:54:35

You done it in front of people, you know?

0:54:350:54:38

Now you want to say that you didn't murder him?

0:54:380:54:40

So they're going to try and say it's manslaughter. It's murder.

0:54:400:54:43

It's murder, through and through. It's murder.

0:54:430:54:46

It's cold-blooded killing.

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Oh, I feel sick, honestly.

0:54:480:54:51

My stomach's turning.

0:54:520:54:55

Me, personally, I think the judge should give him to me,

0:54:550:54:58

because if I've got him, I know exactly what I'll do.

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I'd probably put him in a chair, tie him up like I saw on that film,

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stick two metal rods in his legs and hook him up to the electricity,

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and every now and then, I'd switch my light on and off.

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That's what I'd probably do to him. Honestly.

0:55:110:55:14

You've never been in court before?

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This is probably the highest court in the land.

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The important thing is that

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the young man that murdered your child will be in court, as well.

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He'll be standing there.

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What you mustn't do is to try and show any emotions.

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-OK.

-If you get tearful, then, please, you must leave,

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because that might influence the jury, in some respect.

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-Do you understand?

-I do.

-I can see you getting upset now.

0:55:430:55:46

-Sorry.

-Don't worry.

-Sorry.

-It's OK.

-It's OK, it's understandable.

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I know it's going to be very difficult for you, but Enrica's here to support you.

0:55:520:55:56

I'm here to support you. That's what my job is to do. OK?

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This boy had made a comment to Salum and, you know, it wasn't nice.

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He was really acting like he was some big, big man.

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Tough, and, you know, like he's some gangster,

0:56:140:56:18

and Salum just answered him with, like, one word,

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like, just called him a pussy.

0:56:220:56:23

These young boys, you call them a word like that,

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you know, they take it to such great offence.

0:56:260:56:30

It's just like, "It's the worst thing you could ever say to me."

0:56:300:56:33

It got to him so much that he looked at his friend,

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turned around and then he hugged him and then pushed the knife in.

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He made a statement saying Salum was his friend, his closest friend,

0:56:530:56:58

and he thought Salum was going to stab him.

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So, Salum was looking at him dodgy.

0:57:020:57:05

Because Salum was looking at him dodgy,

0:57:050:57:07

he's decided to take out a knife and killed him first with a knife.

0:57:070:57:13

And he's sorry.

0:57:130:57:15

And he loved him.

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Oh, my gosh.

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-So he says.

-I'm sorry.

-So he says.

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There's a lot of smiling going on between him and his family,

0:57:220:57:26

so, yeah, that pisses me off.

0:57:260:57:28

It's like none of them actually care. That's what's really making me angry.

0:57:300:57:34

I know that's their family in that dock,

0:57:340:57:37

I understand that his mum loves him, no matter what, but...

0:57:370:57:43

..we ain't got Salum any more.

0:57:440:57:46

Do you know what I mean?

0:57:460:57:48

I remember seeing the tent where his body was

0:57:510:57:57

and it was just...it was quiet.

0:57:570:58:01

The light from the DLR station, for some reason it just seemed... the place seemed orange.

0:58:010:58:08

And just saying to myself, 12 hours ago he was alive.

0:58:120:58:18

Today...I happen to know

0:58:180:58:21

that it's been, what, 246 days.

0:58:210:58:27

I always count.

0:58:270:58:28

He went down.

0:58:340:58:36

He's going down. Murder.

0:58:360:58:39

He got convicted of murder.

0:58:390:58:41

So I'm crying cos I'm happy.

0:58:410:58:43

THEY CHEER

0:58:430:58:46

My sister!

0:58:460:58:47

Oh, my God, I'm so happy.

0:58:510:58:54

Are you happy, babe?

0:58:540:58:57

-Go on, man, talk.

-I'm so happy.

-I'm happy.

-Too happy.

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At least the world knows now he's guilty of murder.

0:59:020:59:05

He's actually a murderer. He is officially a murderer.

0:59:050:59:09

-Mwah!

-Mwah!

0:59:090:59:11

ALL: Mwah!

0:59:110:59:13

He'll come out of prison one day, eventually,

0:59:150:59:18

and if he goes for a job, on that application form,

0:59:180:59:23

it's going to ask him, have you ever been convicted?

0:59:230:59:26

He has to say yes.

0:59:260:59:28

When they ask him, "What was you convicted of?", he has to say murder.

0:59:280:59:32

He can't even say, "Oh, it was just a little something."

0:59:320:59:35

It's murder. He took a life.

0:59:350:59:37

You know, wherever he goes, his name is tarnished.

0:59:370:59:41

There's the van.

0:59:430:59:44

He's going. He's going. Look.

0:59:440:59:46

Stupid boy is going. Prison now.

0:59:460:59:50

THEY CHEER

0:59:520:59:54

THEY LAUGH

0:59:540:59:56

In other news, police in Bristol are continuing to question

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a 23-year-old man on suspicion of the murder of a teenage boy.

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Shevon Wilson was stabbed in the chest during a fight...

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How old is he? 23, 24?

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How long have we known him?

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21 years.

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Since he was a little two-year-old.

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Coming in with his dad and the dogs.

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We've been told by people that knew of him that he kept himself to himself.

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That he was a bit of a loner and that he kept ferrets and that he enjoyed hunting with his ferrets.

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He loved his ferrets.

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The first thing he would have done when he got home was gone and fed and watered his ferrets.

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I was just looking at him, like, who is he?

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Like, really, no-one knows him.

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He'd go hunting, shooting, fishing.

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Go out on Dartmoor, Exmoor.

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Go for a week camping.

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I've heard he's lived round by that pub area for many years,

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but, to be honest, I've never heard of this guy before. Never saw him.

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He quite often used to wear a camouflage T-shirt,

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and very close-cropped hair.

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Very smart. Very clean.

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And he was like that.

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And the kids nicknamed him Action Man.

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Little Action Man, cos he's only small, anyway.

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It made me so proud of Steven, when I see all them people turn up for Steven.

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Yeah. And in the paper, it said it was the biggest funeral that Newham's ever seen,

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and I just think that all these people came for my boy.

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That shows how special he was.

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# Amazing Grace

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# How sweet the sound

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# That saved a wretch like me... #

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That's when he was little, when he was a baby,

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and then he was about four there, at a little park thing.

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# I once was lost

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# But now am found

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# Was blind, but now I see... #

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He's seven and she must be eight, and he must four, five,

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and this was... He was 13 here.

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This is when he was in with me in Ilford.

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That was the last picture we had taken of him.

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# T'was grace that brought me thus far

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# And grace will carry me home. #

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What was Steven's situation at the time that he was stabbed?

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His situation?

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He was on a supervision order, which had two weeks.

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It finished when he was 16.

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And he was coming back to live with me in my house in Ilford.

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He was, like, beginning to realise that getting into trouble weren't the way,

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and he was knuckling down and behaving himself.

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But he never had a chance.

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He never had a chance to, you know, to get where he was going, because of them boys.

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I remember when I was younger. I knew all my friends was going somewhere and I weren't allowed to go,

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I sneaked out my window and gone.

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You know, everybody is going to be there, and that's why Steven went.

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The party that Steven went to was an awareness on knife and gun crime,

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and the impact it has on people's lives.

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Not just the people that do it, or the victims, but their families,

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and they found 23 knives in that one night.

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23.

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And who goes to an event on awareness on knife crime and carries knives?

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My boy never stood a chance against them boys.

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There was about 25, 30 boys around him.

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I try not to think about that, to tell you the truth, because...

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that makes me think what his last couple of minutes... What was he going through?

1:05:261:05:32

So scared.

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This is Steven's property.

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There is a chain here that's very important to Sharon, and it's his property that was with him

1:05:461:05:51

on the night, and it's getting returned to Sharon today at the conclusion of this trial.

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Hello, Sharon. It's Andy.

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Where are you?

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All right, then. Coming now.

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I'm going to go and meet my liaison officer.

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-Are they over there for us?

-No.

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Probably not. Who cares about a 15-year-old black boy being killed?

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Nobody cares, really. Apart from their family.

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To other people, it's nothing, it's just a couple of photos

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and a phone, and, you know, but to me,

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it's Steven. You know, it's the last things he had on him.

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-Photo ID.

-I want them.

-You want that? Of course you do.

1:06:351:06:39

-Set of headphones, do you want that?

-Yeah. Yeah.

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Can we see that? Is that mine, yeah?

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Because of the treatment of the clothing Steven had on, we keep that and we dispose of that.

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All right?

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As it says here, it was bloodstained,

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so we've tried to obviously...

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deal with it as best we can.

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Peter is saying he bought it for Steven.

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You're saying it's Steven's, but it's going to trial, isn't it, so I don't want any issues with you lot.

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I got him that chain for his birthday, so I wanted to

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give that chain to my other son, to Steven's little brother, Troy.

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So the police, they cleaned it up for me,

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and Steven was so pleased with that chain. He really was happy with it,

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and I wanted to give it to Troy.

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I know Troy will look after it.

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Right, if you could sign there to say you've had that property back.

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All right? And that's your property.

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To think, you know, for 16 years, you got this little boy

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and, you know...and there's nothing to show for it, really, is there?

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There's nothing to show.

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This is Shev's room.

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And as you can see, for a boy, he kept it quite immaculate, I think.

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He welded this

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when he was doing his apprenticeship at the car garage.

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And he done a really good job of it, so they mounted it on a piece of wood and gave it to him.

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So he was quite proud of that, so we've kept it up there in the windowsill.

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There's some photos in here.

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That was us, actually, when we were younger.

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That's me, Shevon and Deana.

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So you've not looked through these since?

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No, I haven't, actually.

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There's his Primark badge,

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when he had his weekend job at Primark.

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-Bless him.

-This is all Shev's stuff when he was younger.

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Oh, let me see, there's toys from the Early Learning Centre, that was all his little things, toys and that.

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And the bus.

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This is a few of his Action Men.

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There is some more, but Kamara got them over his house.

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His Action Men, cos he got one that used to swim in the water, and there was one that was riding a bike.

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How is your mum?

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Um...

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She's getting better, but I think it'll take time.

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A lot of her grieving is coming out now.

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She's starting to grieve more now.

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And how are you today?

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Well...

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Quite empty, really.

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Yeah.

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I just...

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In limbo, really.

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I just walk in and out. Just do what I got to do.

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It just seems...

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Like when I look at photographs of Shevon and things like that,

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I look at him and say, "That's Shevon, that's my son." But I got no feeling.

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Because I got a feeling I don't think I've accepted Shevon's death, really.

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Because...

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..I just can't let go of what happened that night.

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I keep going over and over it, and I just keep going over the way his life was taken.

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The way it was taken and...

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The horrific way that somebody ended his life like that, by sticking that knife in his heart,

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because the heart, to me, got more meaning than just an organ that keeps us alive.

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I think the heart is like the centre of everything within us.

1:10:551:10:59

I think I take his pain sometimes, just as though, like the knife's gone in me.

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And I feel in a situation where,

1:11:061:11:09

when you're a mum,

1:11:091:11:11

if your children are growing up, you can fix things if they fall down, but I can't fix nothing here.

1:11:111:11:17

I can't fix what happened to Shevon.

1:11:171:11:19

I can't fix this, and whatever way I think, I just can't bring him back.

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And he's never going to come back.

1:11:251:11:27

I just get nightmares.

1:11:311:11:32

I just get nightmares of my son's body drowning of blood

1:11:321:11:37

outside that horrible pub.

1:11:371:11:41

He shouldn't have died at all, but I would have much preferred

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that all his blood was over the hospital floor.

1:11:441:11:48

And that he died in hospital and not out there in front of all those horrible people.

1:11:481:11:53

And what I got a problem with at the moment, as well, what haunts me, is the grave. Every time I go there,

1:11:571:12:03

I know Shevon's in there, you know, and I had this beautiful boy,

1:12:031:12:08

and I just can't help how much his body has decayed, like, now.

1:12:081:12:14

But I don't get that sense of feeling when I'm at the bench.

1:12:141:12:18

So lately, I just haven't been anywhere.

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I haven't really been to the bench or the grave that much.

1:12:201:12:23

I love this picture of him.

1:13:181:13:20

He looks so innocent. See, football.

1:13:201:13:22

Everything has to have a football on it for him.

1:13:221:13:26

This was the first thing, when I got my flat, that I put up.

1:13:261:13:29

Right here.

1:13:291:13:32

Go to bed, I can see him,

1:13:321:13:34

and then when I'm here, it's like he's looking directly at me.

1:13:341:13:38

See, they're looking down, and then when I go over here,

1:13:381:13:43

they come out.

1:13:431:13:45

See, that's why I have to have him there.

1:13:451:13:47

-They follow you round the room?

-Yeah.

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He would come to the house and he would measure up to me.

1:13:501:13:53

Yeah, about here. Yeah, and before he was like, "Jams, you all right?"

1:13:531:13:57

and he used to hate it because we used to call him Small Jamzy.

1:13:571:14:00

And, oh, my God, he was growing.

1:14:001:14:03

Everyone says to him, Jamzy, you're growing. You're getting tall, Jamzy.

1:14:031:14:07

And he's like, "Yeah, I'm growing."

1:14:071:14:10

And now soon as he was growing, they just took him.

1:14:101:14:14

Stupid boy just took you, Jamzy, from us.

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HE SINGS

1:14:271:14:31

At one point, I was just so angry with God, because I don't understand why my brother had to die.

1:14:361:14:41

He's got his whole life ahead of him, and he was actually parting the fight.

1:14:411:14:46

He was helping somebody, so why did he die?

1:14:461:14:50

Even if he got stabbed, why did it have to be so...so fatal?

1:14:501:14:57

Why couldn't it have been just like, I don't know, a little slice,

1:14:571:15:01

and he could get a couple of stitches and then...or he could be in hospital for a couple of weeks,

1:15:011:15:05

or even if God was going to let him die, why not wait for us to get to him to say bye?

1:15:051:15:10

Why someone like Jamzy had to die like that, I don't understand it.

1:15:101:15:15

Good morning, people.

1:15:321:15:34

Jams was my brother.

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I can see a lot of you kids, or as they like to be called,

1:15:371:15:42

a lot of you youngers, are into a lot of things that you shouldn't be,

1:15:421:15:48

but not my brother.

1:15:481:15:50

Football gets played by most kids until a certain age,

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but when you get older you have to give up unless you are good, so most kids give up on your dreams.

1:15:551:16:03

But not Jahmal. Not my brother.

1:16:031:16:05

Lastly, to the kids,

1:16:171:16:19

please stop the war.

1:16:191:16:21

Leave the knives alone.

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Please, if not for yourself, if not for me, do it for my brother.

1:16:231:16:28

APPLAUSE

1:16:291:16:31

Sickening just thinking about it. It's just sickening.

1:16:371:16:40

Two seconds away from death, he must have known he was going to die,

1:16:401:16:44

and then no-one, not me, not my dad, not his mum, no faces that he knows, and he was screaming for my dad.

1:16:441:16:51

He said, "I want my dad, I want my dad!"

1:16:511:16:54

Every time I hold my neck I just think, "Oh, my God."

1:16:541:16:59

It's so...such a vicious way to die.

1:16:591:17:03

My dad just thinks his child just died like an animal.

1:17:031:17:07

He just died like an animal on the floor.

1:17:071:17:11

We are gathered here to weep over the death of yet another young child.

1:17:111:17:18

I don't know about you, but I am frustrated.

1:17:181:17:21

When will we cease standing here

1:17:231:17:26

with a young person who should not be in a coffin there?

1:17:261:17:32

Roy will tell you.

1:17:321:17:34

Sandra will tell you. It's unnatural.

1:17:341:17:36

I read the tribute from Roy. He said "Nobody knows, but God, how I feel.

1:17:361:17:42

"I never thought I would be burying my son."

1:17:421:17:46

It is unnatural for parents to bury their children.

1:17:461:17:49

Let me tell you something.

1:17:521:17:54

The power of change lies in the hands of the community.

1:17:541:17:59

It lies in the hands of the people.

1:17:591:18:01

Not the politicians.

1:18:011:18:03

No-one else, but us.

1:18:061:18:07

There is a disproportionate amount of black youth dying on the street and I am tired of it.

1:18:081:18:14

My brothers and sisters, our funeral for Jahmal is drawing to a close.

1:18:201:18:25

In a few moments' time, each and every one of us

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will have the opportunity to come and file past the coffin,

1:18:281:18:33

and, friends, these are precious, precious moments.

1:18:331:18:36

SCREAMING

1:18:381:18:41

When the coffin was opened, we heard an absolute shriek.

1:18:471:18:51

It was at that moment, really, where

1:18:511:18:54

effectively, the boundaries somehow went.

1:18:541:18:58

But there was a real sense of kind of mania outside.

1:19:041:19:07

It was a real manic experience.

1:19:071:19:09

The first I heard of it was when we were processing the coffin out and my colleague,

1:19:091:19:12

Father David, said, you know, "Stop the procession, there's a fight going on."

1:19:121:19:16

Get the kids away from here, man!

1:19:221:19:24

Take your beef somewhere else.

1:19:241:19:26

I'm not asking you. I'm telling you. Roll out.

1:19:261:19:29

I was told that it's because there were some boys from E8,

1:19:291:19:33

that apparently that shouldn't have been where we were, and where we was E9,

1:19:331:19:38

and they're from E8 and it's literally like, E8 and E9 is, literally, the same place,

1:19:381:19:44

and they was told not to come over there, and they came over there,

1:19:441:19:47

so they wanted them to go back where they came from.

1:19:471:19:50

These were boys who weren't there for the funeral?

1:19:501:19:53

No, they was boys that weren't there for the funeral, came to fight the boys that was at the funeral.

1:19:531:19:58

Isn't that sick?

1:19:581:20:00

It kind of beggars belief. It really does.

1:20:031:20:06

I find it so difficult to get my head around this, too.

1:20:061:20:10

At one level, there is this talk of respect and, you know,

1:20:101:20:14

don't disrespect me and all this sort of stuff,

1:20:141:20:18

and at the same time, showing such a complete and utter lack of respect for a family who are grieving,

1:20:181:20:25

for a community which is hurting, for close friends whose hearts are crying out in pain, and I just, you know,

1:20:251:20:32

I just don't understand it.

1:20:321:20:34

AGGRESSIVE SHOUTING

1:20:491:20:52

Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!

1:20:521:20:55

The day that I went to court, it was just an awful experience.

1:21:371:21:42

It was, you know, you feel really angry,

1:21:421:21:45

and it's hard to remain dignified in a courtroom when you're, kind of,

1:21:451:21:50

a few metres away from your brother's murderer.

1:21:501:21:54

The victim's mother leaving court, still traumatised by her son's murder,

1:21:541:21:59

but after his killer's sentencing, she mustered the strength to talk to reporters.

1:21:591:22:05

Nothing in the world will bring back my son,

1:22:051:22:08

but the conviction of the person responsible for ending his life

1:22:081:22:11

may give us a feeling of justice, for all our sakes.

1:22:111:22:14

Shevon Wilson was stabbed outside this pub

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in St George last September.

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He'd had an argument with 23-year-old Sam Lengfeld,

1:22:191:22:22

who went home, put on a hoodie and picked up a kitchen knife,

1:22:221:22:26

then returned to the pub, where he stabbed Wilson through the heart.

1:22:261:22:30

The judge said it was a "cold, callous and calculated murder",

1:22:301:22:34

ordering that Lengfeld must serve at least 17 years.

1:22:341:22:38

He didn't say anything the whole time in court.

1:22:381:22:41

Just that he pleaded guilty.

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That was it.

1:22:431:22:45

-Did he look at you?

-No.

1:22:451:22:47

He didn't look at any of us.

1:22:471:22:49

I'm absolutely stunned and numb at what he did,

1:22:491:22:54

and I would love to know why he did it.

1:22:541:22:57

Even if he has got an answer for why, it'll never be good enough.

1:22:571:23:02

The only way I can see it getting even....

1:23:021:23:05

..is if...he was dead,

1:23:061:23:10

or someone he knows, someone he was close to, anyway.

1:23:101:23:15

Just that's how I feel about it, innit?

1:23:151:23:17

I don't reckon he knows the level of pain he's caused so many people.

1:23:191:23:25

How long did he get?

1:23:251:23:27

17 years.

1:23:271:23:28

What do you think about that?

1:23:291:23:31

Numb. You know.

1:23:311:23:35

That a young man is locked up for 17 years, and one is dead.

1:23:351:23:39

And another two are looking five to seven years for what they did.

1:23:421:23:46

In a way, I don't really care,

1:23:541:23:57

because, like...

1:23:571:23:59

nothing can really get worse than what it is right about now.

1:23:591:24:03

But... I do care because, obviously, I don't want to go to prison for

1:24:031:24:08

a long time, for just basically defending myself and my friends.

1:24:081:24:15

You know what I'm saying?

1:24:151:24:16

Ladies and gentlemen, can I have your attention?

1:24:291:24:32

I dedicate this song to my daughter, who was, you know, murdered by a nice human being.

1:24:321:24:40

And I'm going to sing this song from my heart.

1:24:401:24:43

Here I go.

1:24:451:24:46

Elvis is in the building.

1:24:481:24:50

Thank you very much.

1:24:501:24:52

That's Jessica there.

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That's Lisa. Natalie.

1:24:551:24:57

Anne Marie.

1:24:571:24:59

Ashleigh and Marion.

1:24:591:25:01

My five daughters.

1:25:011:25:03

That's a bit of handful, Garry.

1:25:031:25:05

Especially when you wanted a bath or a shower. They were in there before me.

1:25:051:25:09

What's going on with your hair there, Garry?

1:25:091:25:12

Well, I'm an Elvis Presley fan.

1:25:121:25:13

And what about Jessica? Was she an Elvis fan?

1:25:131:25:16

She always listened to me playing him.

1:25:161:25:18

She used to watch me doing the moves.

1:25:181:25:21

Sometimes I'd go like that. "Thank you very much."

1:25:211:25:25

I always wanted a wee boy, but then a seven-year gap.

1:25:281:25:33

I had a seven-year gap and we decided to try again,

1:25:331:25:37

and, behold, Jessica.

1:25:371:25:39

You'd always see them together, as a pair.

1:25:521:25:56

It was always Jessica and Stuart. It wasn't just, like, Jessica or Stuart. It was Jessica and Stuart.

1:25:561:26:02

-They were kind of inseparable?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

1:26:021:26:06

But then sometimes from standing back as Jessica's friend,

1:26:061:26:09

you thought the arguments were going a bit too far

1:26:091:26:12

and you could see it wasn't making her happy. Like, towards the end,

1:26:121:26:16

she was always arguing.

1:26:161:26:17

And what kind of stuff did they argue over?

1:26:171:26:21

Everything.

1:26:211:26:23

I don't know.

1:26:231:26:25

She loved him.

1:26:251:26:27

She did. Well, she told everybody she loved him, so...

1:26:271:26:31

Love's blind, as they say, isn't it?

1:26:331:26:36

On the night that it happened, Stuart went round to my mum and dad's house, 3.45am in the morning,

1:26:391:26:46

banging on the door.

1:26:461:26:47

My mum answered the door.

1:26:471:26:50

My mum said he was sitting on the floor shaking, and my mum said to him, "What's wrong?

1:26:501:26:56

"Where's Jessica?"

1:26:561:26:58

And he just said, "Jessica's dead. Jessica's dead." And so my dad ran round...

1:26:581:27:04

..to their flat.

1:27:061:27:08

I've seen her lying there.

1:27:091:27:11

I dragged her out.

1:27:141:27:16

She spoke to me. She opened her eyes.

1:27:221:27:24

Breathed into her mouth, to get some...

1:27:271:27:30

I thought she was dead.

1:27:321:27:34

But she opened her eyes and she said,

1:27:341:27:36

"I love you, Daddy. I don't want to die."

1:27:361:27:38

So we went straight up to the hospital.

1:27:381:27:42

She was in the burns unit.

1:27:421:27:43

And then the doctors come in and spoke to us,

1:27:431:27:47

and they said that she wasn't going to make it.

1:27:471:27:50

What do you know now about what he did on that night?

1:27:561:27:59

I know he argued wi' her.

1:28:031:28:06

Smashing the house up.

1:28:061:28:07

Doing this and doing that,

1:28:091:28:12

and dousing her with petrol.

1:28:121:28:14

And locked the door. And let her burn alive.

1:28:161:28:20

He poured petrol over her?

1:28:221:28:24

Yeah.

1:28:241:28:25

The forensic scientist had said that the smoke pattern in the bedroom

1:28:271:28:33

was as though the bedroom door had been held shut,

1:28:331:28:39

and she was standing

1:28:391:28:41

at the bottom of the bed, in front of the door.

1:28:411:28:45

Probably trying to get out.

1:28:451:28:48

He held her in that fucking door and just heard her screaming.

1:28:481:28:53

I'll never ever forgive him for what he did. I will never, never...

1:28:531:28:59

She was such a lovely lassie.

1:28:591:29:03

-I'm going to do this for Jessica.

-I know you are. You'll do her proud.

1:29:121:29:16

'Me dad, he goes to karaoke and does a bit of Elvis,'

1:29:161:29:22

and he always says, "This song's for my baby, Jessica."

1:29:221:29:28

# Oh-oh-oh...

1:29:301:29:33

# Oh-oh-oh...

1:29:351:29:39

# Oh, yeah

1:29:391:29:40

# When no-one else can understand me

1:29:411:29:44

# When everything I do is wrong

1:29:461:29:49

# You give me hope and... #

1:29:511:29:55

I can't do it.

1:29:561:29:58

CROWD: # You give me strength To carry on

1:29:581:30:00

# I guess I'll never know

1:30:001:30:03

# The reason why... #

1:30:031:30:06

'My routine in the morning is to get up at 7am. Go down the stair. Open the fridge.'

1:30:061:30:11

# That's the wonder... #

1:30:111:30:14

Psst. Can of beer.

1:30:141:30:16

Sit and watch TV, and just chill out, then I wait till the pub's open at 11am.

1:30:161:30:21

And straight down the pub and then back up the road for about 9pm or 10pm or something.

1:30:211:30:27

Mangled.

1:30:271:30:29

My wee baby.

1:30:331:30:35

That's your last one!

1:30:371:30:39

What?

1:30:391:30:41

How do you think it's affected your dad?

1:30:411:30:44

Horribly.

1:30:441:30:45

He's just not himself.

1:30:451:30:48

He's turned to drink to help him. Well, he thinks it's helping him.

1:30:491:30:54

You needing a refill?

1:30:541:30:56

Yeah.

1:30:561:30:57

He's lost weight.

1:30:581:31:00

He's always crying.

1:31:001:31:02

Always.

1:31:021:31:04

To start off with, he was always saying, "I want to be with Jessica.

1:31:041:31:08

"She needs me. I'm going to be with Jessica."

1:31:081:31:12

I just get flashbacks of that night.

1:31:121:31:15

You know, as soon as I shut my eyes I can see Jessica lying there.

1:31:151:31:20

Just the horror. Then hospital.

1:31:201:31:22

Everything just gets mangled round and it's just like lying there,

1:31:221:31:26

hospital, turn the machine off, buried. Know what I mean?

1:31:261:31:31

Gone.

1:31:311:31:32

Shattered.

1:31:391:31:41

Basically, I pleaded not guilty to wounding with intent

1:32:071:32:10

and to violent disorder, but pleaded guilty to affray.

1:32:101:32:16

What kind of sentence could you be looking at?

1:32:161:32:19

Maximum sentence for affray is three years, isn't it?

1:32:211:32:26

I'd like to see the judge, see if he's got the guts to watch his friend get stabbed

1:32:261:32:31

and try and take the knife off the person that stabbed him,

1:32:311:32:34

see what he gets recognised for. He'd be a national hero.

1:32:341:32:37

The Lord Lieutenant's award is a special award given for first aid action that is above and beyond

1:32:371:32:44

the normal expectation of a first aider.

1:32:441:32:47

Because of what I did, I didn't really see I'd done anything

1:32:471:32:53

that anybody else wouldn't have done, but one of my superiors

1:32:531:32:58

nominated me for an award for bravery.

1:32:581:33:01

One had been stabbed in the lower chest. The other was being punched and kicked across the...

1:33:011:33:07

I thought I was just going to get a mention, a certificate,

1:33:071:33:10

but I won the Lord Lieutenant's Award for Bravery.

1:33:101:33:14

For his courage, professionalism and compassion in dealing with this

1:33:141:33:19

very serious incident, I present Sam Taylor.

1:33:191:33:23

APPLAUSE

1:33:231:33:26

As the different conversations went around,

1:33:361:33:38

it was, "Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam."

1:33:381:33:41

And everyone got confused as to who was who and what was what.

1:33:411:33:47

There was a lot of confusion between me, Sam Taylor, and Sam, Sam Lengfeld,

1:33:471:33:52

because we both had the same name,

1:33:521:33:54

people were assuming that Sam Lengfeld was the grandson of my granddad,

1:33:541:34:01

and there were rumours going round that he was his nephew.

1:34:011:34:05

That he was his grandson.

1:34:051:34:07

That he was family there.

1:34:071:34:09

So all the anger was directed towards the family, if you like.

1:34:091:34:12

Basically, the way it's put in the paper is he's gone to go over to Shev,

1:34:121:34:17

but everyone's pushed him away and said, "Leave him, leave him to die."

1:34:171:34:21

But it was the other way around.

1:34:211:34:24

-He was going to his cousin.

-Who do you think is his cousin?

1:34:241:34:27

The guy who stabbed Shev. Sam Lengfeld, I think his name is.

1:34:281:34:34

-And you think that they're related?

-Yeah, they're related.

1:34:341:34:38

-They're not related.

-No? They're not.

1:34:381:34:42

Well, I've actually moved away from Bristol because of it.

1:34:421:34:45

I don't feel the same in Bristol any more.

1:34:451:34:48

I don't feel safe, which is really sad for me,

1:34:481:34:52

because I don't see my grandparents very much any more, who I miss a lot.

1:34:521:34:57

And it's heartbreaking to know

1:34:571:34:59

that I can't be down in Bristol, not looking over my shoulder.

1:34:591:35:03

Not thinking, "Is something going to happen tonight?"

1:35:031:35:06

Hello, there, sir.

1:35:111:35:12

Are you going to the chemist?

1:35:121:35:14

The road is closed, sir.

1:35:141:35:16

The road is closed at the moment, sir.

1:35:161:35:18

-I can't walk?

-Not through here, no.

1:35:181:35:21

-How can I get down there?

-MOBILE RINGS

1:35:211:35:23

I'm afraid you can't. The road's actually closed off at the moment.

1:35:231:35:29

Oh. Hello?

1:35:291:35:30

Do you know how long it will be blocked off?

1:35:301:35:33

-It'll be probably...

-I wanted to go and do my shopping.

1:35:331:35:37

-Probably until late in the afternoon, I would have thought.

-Really?

1:35:371:35:40

-Sorry. You can't come through, I'm afraid.

-No? OK.

-Just stay on the other side.

1:35:401:35:45

SHE SPEAKS SPANISH

1:35:451:35:47

I'm not going to go the other way around.

1:35:471:35:50

-I can't go all the way back down there.

-Christ's sake. Come on.

-God!

1:35:501:35:54

I've got business to attend to, for goodness sake.

1:35:541:35:57

I'm trying to get through to my bank.

1:35:571:35:59

Everything's closed off. That end. That end. It's outrageous.

1:35:591:36:03

I go through here and you stop me going through,

1:36:031:36:07

you will be committing a criminal offence. That of assault.

1:36:071:36:10

I know someone got stabbed to death. I don't care. It's not me that got stabbed to death and no-one I know.

1:36:101:36:14

I feel sorry for them, but I have to get home.

1:36:141:36:17

The pub is open.

1:36:241:36:25

-Thank you, officer.

-Thank you for your help and understanding.

1:36:251:36:28

You are welcome.

1:36:281:36:30

Really and truly, if you can't see the youth lying on the floor bleeding,

1:36:581:37:02

it's nothing to you, innit? It's just another youth.

1:37:021:37:04

If you're growing up and hearing about this stuff and the person ain't close to you,

1:37:041:37:09

you're going to be like, "Boy, that's a shame."

1:37:091:37:11

But tomorrow you're just going to be doing whatever you're doing.

1:37:111:37:15

Just carrying on, I guess.

1:37:151:37:16

I just saw the police bring him out and, as I saw

1:37:221:37:26

his face, I just started crying, because he was a good person.

1:37:261:37:30

Shocking.

1:37:301:37:32

-And how old are you?

-I'm eleven.

1:37:321:37:35

It's just shocking.

1:37:371:37:39

Life is short.

1:37:401:37:41

All right, then. Bye.

1:37:591:38:01

This is Shannen. That's her daughter.

1:38:031:38:06

It says, "Rest in peace Shannen Vickers.

1:38:061:38:09

"Simply the best." And then it's got, "Rest in peace, Pauline Adams.

1:38:091:38:14

"Better than all the rest."

1:38:141:38:16

All right, listen, you can't talk to no-one when you come out.

1:38:161:38:20

You can't even talk to me.

1:38:201:38:22

You don't phone no-one at all. You can't talk to Nicola about the case because she's a witness.

1:38:221:38:27

You can't say nothing. If you're going to talk...

1:38:271:38:30

-What's the camera on me for?

-Because it's for BBC.

1:38:301:38:33

-It's to do with Shannen.

-You're one of Shannen's oldest mates. Get your fucking backside here now!

1:38:331:38:38

Jack, you should have let him have his hair trimmed, he's on camera.

1:38:411:38:45

His hair looks a mess.

1:38:451:38:47

You should have let him have his hair trimmed. He looks a mess.

1:38:471:38:51

He put it right in front of his face!

1:38:511:38:53

My mum Pauline was in the flat,

1:39:031:39:05

my niece Shannen. I think she'd been home ten minutes, not even that.

1:39:051:39:11

Um...my dog, Ooch, my cat, Nut-Nut,

1:39:111:39:15

and the terrapin, Spice.

1:39:151:39:19

-Who survived.

-Who survived. He was the only one that survived.

1:39:191:39:22

The only thing we're glad about is that my mum and Shannen was together.

1:39:261:39:30

-Arm in arm.

-Arm in arm, they was, together.

1:39:301:39:33

I mean, she was my niece, yeah, but she was like my daughter as well.

1:39:461:39:50

You couldn't fault her. Well, you can fault her,

1:39:501:39:53

because, I'm not being funny, I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture,

1:39:531:39:57

she could be a little bitch. She was a little bitch. She was.

1:39:571:40:00

But, she had a J-Lo bum, you know. She had...

1:40:001:40:04

-A J-Lo bum?

-Yeah, a J-Lo bum. The curvy bum.

1:40:051:40:08

Shannen doing a J-Lo pose again.

1:40:081:40:10

She liked to show her bum.

1:40:101:40:12

-She did?

-Yeah. 100%. She loved her bum and she should of.

1:40:121:40:17

This was the boy she got together on that night.

1:40:171:40:20

She fancied him for seven years.

1:40:201:40:22

He was the last boy she ever kissed.

1:40:221:40:25

She wanted to marry someone with loads of money.

1:40:251:40:28

As long as they were good-looking.

1:40:281:40:30

She wouldn't go out with an old bloke. No.

1:40:301:40:33

They had to be good looking.

1:40:331:40:35

Not even white.

1:40:351:40:37

No.

1:40:371:40:38

Everyone never used to think Shannen was English.

1:40:381:40:41

They thought she was Mediterranean.

1:40:411:40:43

She doesn't look English.

1:40:431:40:46

-That one there...

-Yeah, that one there, as well.

1:40:461:40:48

See?

1:40:481:40:49

But we can guarantee that she is.

1:40:491:40:52

Because it would have been her 18th.

1:40:521:40:56

Her mate Sharne had a pink limo, and we was going to do that to her,

1:40:561:41:02

and what did she say to you?

1:41:021:41:04

-You're going to have to say it.

-Yeah.

1:41:041:41:06

-I don't know. "Would I ever get in another fucking pink hummer?"

-Yeah.

1:41:061:41:12

We're just after a tattoo for the other side of our neck,

1:41:141:41:17

because this one has got angels and "rest in peace".

1:41:171:41:20

So we just want one, so we can put their names on it,

1:41:201:41:23

my mum's name and Shannen's name.

1:41:231:41:25

We putting her name or just "Mum"?

1:41:251:41:27

-Are we just doing "Mum"?

-We're doing "Mum", innit?

1:41:271:41:29

OK, we'll do "Mum", then.

1:41:291:41:31

Well, it would look a bit silly writing "Pauline" on our necks.

1:41:311:41:34

No, I meant "Mum". I didn't mean "Pauline".

1:41:341:41:37

OK, you said names. I just want to make sure.

1:41:371:41:39

-Its "Mum", isn't it?

-You have to be pacific!

1:41:391:41:42

But her name's "Mum" to us, innit?

1:41:421:41:44

I don't call her "Pauline", do we?

1:41:441:41:46

Well, you do when you had the hump with her.

1:41:461:41:49

Yeah, but that's different.

1:41:491:41:50

BOTH: Oh, I like that one!

1:41:501:41:52

-That's it.

-No, that one.

-That with "Mum" and "Shannen"?

1:41:521:41:55

-We'll have that one.

-That one'll do.

1:41:551:41:56

-You've got the dates all right?

-We've got the dates on this one.

1:41:561:41:59

-Yeah.

-No, that's perfect, that one.

1:41:591:42:01

-That's perfect, that one.

-Yeah. Changed me mind again.

1:42:011:42:05

-Love it. Love the pain.

-It's the only time we feel something.

1:42:051:42:09

So we're not zombies, innit?

1:42:101:42:13

'The night before, Shannen was getting ready to go out,

1:42:171:42:20

'because it was her mate's 18th birthday party.'

1:42:201:42:24

-Doing her hair.

-And, was it about 3am in the morning?

-Yes.

1:42:241:42:27

I got a phone call.

1:42:271:42:30

And Brendan said that he'd just been in a big fight,

1:42:301:42:34

and one of the boys had threatened to go set the place alight.

1:42:341:42:38

They said that they was going to burn our place out,

1:42:401:42:43

and hoped that I was in it

1:42:431:42:44

and, hopefully, everyone else was going to be there, as well.

1:42:441:42:48

-They didn't care who was going to be there.

-This was over...?

1:42:481:42:52

A £15 puff.

1:42:521:42:53

All it was was £15.

1:42:531:42:56

Even though their argument was with MY son.

1:42:561:42:58

Their argument was with Brendan. It had nothing to do with my mum.

1:42:581:43:02

It had nothing to do with Shannen. It had nothing to do with our animals.

1:43:021:43:06

The amount of petrol they used was a little bit

1:43:081:43:10

bigger than an Oasis bottle and they filled it up to the top.

1:43:101:43:14

So they've kicked the door open and they just set it alight

1:43:141:43:17

and just stood there for a few minutes, to make sure it set alight.

1:43:171:43:21

And they both, my mum and my daughter, Shannen,

1:43:211:43:24

died together in each other's arms.

1:43:241:43:27

The one that died first was the dog and the cat went in with me mum.

1:43:271:43:32

And the whole three of them died together. In my bedroom, innit?

1:43:321:43:37

My mum wouldn't have cared what happened to her.

1:43:441:43:47

She would have cared that Shannen got out,

1:43:471:43:49

so she went in the room to try and get Shannen out.

1:43:491:43:52

And they couldn't get out. They just couldn't get out.

1:43:521:43:57

Because the fire was too much.

1:43:571:43:59

I think sometimes people say, "You are really, really strong."

1:44:041:44:08

-Except it's not.

-Front.

-It's front. It's a face.

1:44:081:44:12

Because, I think if we cry,

1:44:141:44:16

then it feels like sometimes you're not going to stop.

1:44:161:44:21

You want to say hello to the world? Say, "Hello, world."

1:44:331:44:36

Show your gorgeous self to the world. Say, "Hello, world."

1:44:361:44:40

Say, "My name's Ronnie."

1:44:401:44:41

Someone gave us a dog, because our dog died in the fire,

1:44:441:44:49

so she give me this one,

1:44:491:44:51

and then when we went to visit them, there was this one, as well.

1:44:511:44:54

-They're little twins.

-They're little twins. Ronnie and Reggie.

1:44:541:44:58

They're like little babies, aren't they?

1:45:021:45:04

This will be my new baby.

1:45:041:45:06

Won't you? Yeah.

1:45:061:45:09

Ain't you? Thank you.

1:45:091:45:11

Some kind of justice would be is if we were allowed to go into the room

1:45:181:45:21

and just ask what everyone wants to know.

1:45:211:45:24

Why?

1:45:241:45:25

Why? There was just no reason for it.

1:45:271:45:30

Over £15 to have a draw - puff, zoot, whatever - why?

1:45:301:45:33

There is no reason for it.

1:45:331:45:35

What if they were found not guilty?

1:45:401:45:43

-That's all right.

-That's all right.

1:45:431:45:45

-Because?

-You so don't want to hear what we're going to say.

1:45:471:45:51

Well, put it this way - either way, justice will be done.

1:45:531:45:57

I mean, who could blame us, eh?

1:45:571:46:00

Innit?

1:46:001:46:01

-It's the East End way, innit?

-That's it - a life for a life.

1:46:011:46:05

Says that in the Bible.

1:46:051:46:07

A life for a life.

1:46:071:46:09

An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth and...

1:46:091:46:11

BOTH: A life for a life.

1:46:111:46:12

See you later.

1:46:141:46:16

See you later.

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CLUB MUSIC PLAYS

1:46:351:46:38

What's happening tomorrow?

1:46:441:46:46

We're going on a walk for Shev, because it's his birthday,

1:46:461:46:49

so we're just going to go and raise some more money for his headstone

1:46:491:46:53

and stuff like that and just have a good day for him, innit.

1:46:531:46:56

-How old would he have been?

-18 he'd be tomorrow.

1:46:571:47:01

Eight months now.

1:47:011:47:02

It's crazy when you think about it.

1:47:021:47:05

It just flies by.

1:47:051:47:06

Life goes on doesn't it? Except for his mother up the road.

1:47:071:47:13

And like I said to you, I still think about her.

1:47:131:47:17

Do you have some experience of losing a son, as well?

1:47:171:47:22

-Yes. It was Ivan, our only son.

-Right.

1:47:221:47:27

Had his postmortem,

1:47:271:47:29

and it was the left ventricle of his heart had seized.

1:47:291:47:34

Mine was in completely different circumstances to her,

1:47:341:47:37

but it still doesn't make any difference.

1:47:371:47:40

The gravel is still as sharp and as cold and as hard

1:47:401:47:43

when you're kneeling there,

1:47:431:47:45

you know.

1:47:451:47:47

It doesn't matter what the circumstances are.

1:47:471:47:51

And I suppose that's why I still keep thinking

1:47:511:47:53

about his mother, you know.

1:47:531:47:55

I know what a long, long year the first year is,

1:47:561:47:59

all the anniversaries and everything.

1:47:591:48:01

It never stops. It never goes away.

1:48:011:48:04

It wasn't actually until Shevon passed away

1:48:141:48:17

that I realised how many friends he had.

1:48:171:48:20

Most people, if it was his birthday or anybody's birthday,

1:48:201:48:24

you struggle to get like 20 to 30 people to go out for your birthday,

1:48:241:48:27

but to know that it's so many months after

1:48:271:48:31

and he got people to walk to Bath,

1:48:311:48:33

that shows, like, how much people care.

1:48:331:48:35

# Happy birthday to you

1:48:371:48:40

# Happy birthday to you

1:48:401:48:44

# Happy birthday, dear Shevon

1:48:441:48:47

# Happy birthday to you. #

1:48:471:48:51

You can't judge a book by its cover. Because we look a certain way

1:48:511:48:55

or we do a certain thing, you can't judge that person like that.

1:48:551:48:58

Kids just are labelled as a menace.

1:48:581:49:00

There is no representation of the good that we do.

1:49:001:49:03

Excuse me, would you mind donating some money to a good cause?

1:49:031:49:07

Shevon didn't like trouble, and there is a stigma attached to

1:49:071:49:12

black men that have been a victim of knife crime

1:49:121:49:15

whereas in Shevon's case, it wasn't a gang-related incident at all,

1:49:151:49:20

but I think people would have read the inaccurate

1:49:201:49:24

media reports and made that conclusion, definitely.

1:49:241:49:29

We're going to let some balloons off for Wahab's birthday.

1:49:481:49:52

I'm just saying Wahab because it's his real name, really,

1:49:521:49:55

because he didn't really tell anyone.

1:49:551:49:58

-I don't think he liked people knowing his real name.

-So what did he prefer?

-Killer.

1:49:581:50:02

-Yeah, he did.

-That was his tag name, Killer.

1:50:021:50:05

Didn't mean nothing.

1:50:051:50:06

No, it didn't mean nothing. Just what we knew him as.

1:50:061:50:09

And when we say Killer, we mean he was a killer.

1:50:091:50:12

-He made us laugh.

-He made us laugh.

1:50:121:50:14

Like he could make anything into a joke.

1:50:141:50:17

-And everybody called him Killer?

-Everyone.

1:50:171:50:19

The press made something of that, as well.

1:50:191:50:22

They said he was called Killer because he went round killing people.

1:50:221:50:25

-Or something like that.

-And that's unfair.

1:50:251:50:28

His mum's got to hear that.

1:50:281:50:29

His mum has to hear that,

1:50:291:50:30

and she knows deep down that he wasn't like that.

1:50:301:50:33

We know deep down that he wasn't like that.

1:50:331:50:35

Because he got found with a knife once don't mean nothing.

1:50:351:50:38

-He never hurt anyone.

-That's what I mean.

1:50:381:50:40

When a young white boy gets stabbed or he gets killed, they never say,

1:50:401:50:44

"Oh, its gang-related or his nickname, he had this because

1:50:441:50:48

"yeah, he's done this and he's done that."

1:50:481:50:50

It's always a young black boy.

1:50:501:50:52

All the time.

1:50:521:50:53

Gang-related. His postcode was...

1:50:531:50:56

That's for you, Killer.

1:50:561:50:57

Yeah. Three, two, one...

1:51:001:51:03

I don't even know where it is, you know. I've just turned up.

1:51:231:51:26

Didn't leave us much room with his van. Oh, they left me parking.

1:51:291:51:33

This is the coffin here.

1:51:351:51:37

Another one of London's teenagers.

1:51:431:51:46

It says here, "In one attack, the murdered youth,

1:51:591:52:04

"18-year-old Wahab Zaaki,

1:52:041:52:06

"had a history of carrying knives and may have been armed himself.

1:52:061:52:12

"Wahab, who called himself Killer, was stabbed in the chest in a...

1:52:121:52:16

"in a frenz..." Is it "frenzied"?

1:52:161:52:19

"..attack near a bin store in Walthamstow, East London,

1:52:191:52:23

"on Friday night."

1:52:231:52:24

They make it sound like it was his fault.

1:52:241:52:28

Because every time someone dies of a knife crime or whatever,

1:52:281:52:32

they always like make it sound bad on the actual victim.

1:52:321:52:37

I just remember people'd be like praying over him.

1:52:411:52:44

It was like an open coffin, but you could see his eyes and that.

1:52:441:52:48

It was nice, because he looked peaceful.

1:52:481:52:50

He looked peaceful when he was laying there.

1:52:531:52:55

I had an idea that I was pregnant

1:53:081:53:12

just after he died.

1:53:121:53:13

And then my mate brung round a pregnancy test, and I done it,

1:53:141:53:19

and then I found out that I was pregnant.

1:53:191:53:22

I wanted the baby, anyways, and it will be nice for

1:53:271:53:31

his mum and family and me that we have part of him

1:53:311:53:38

with us, living on.

1:53:381:53:41

-Do you know if you're having a boy or a girl?

-A girl.

-Really?

-Yeah.

1:53:411:53:45

But have you thought what you might say to her

1:53:451:53:48

about what happened to her father?

1:53:481:53:50

No, I ain't really thought about that, which I should, really.

1:53:501:53:55

I can't tell her why and what happened.

1:53:551:53:59

You still don't know?

1:53:591:54:01

No.

1:54:011:54:02

When she does his face expressions

1:54:191:54:22

and that,

1:54:221:54:24

like what he used to do, I dunno, it reminds me of him.

1:54:241:54:27

This is for you, Salum.

1:54:361:54:38

-Love you.

-Cheers.

1:54:381:54:39

# My love, where did we go wrong?

1:54:391:54:46

# Wonder who's in your arms

1:54:461:54:50

# 'Specially because you did her wrong

1:54:501:54:54

# You know, sad songs

1:54:541:54:59

# Are the best songs

1:54:591:55:01

# You don't have to wonder how it's going to end... #

1:55:021:55:10

I know that he wanted to go to university,

1:55:101:55:13

even going into engineering, like, making the cars and stuff like that.

1:55:131:55:18

Because he used to draw a really good car.

1:55:181:55:21

That's what his signature would have been like when he was famous.

1:55:261:55:29

Jamzy. See it?

1:55:291:55:31

That's what he would have used when he was a famous footballer.

1:55:311:55:34

"Jahmal, can I have your signature?" That's what he would have used.

1:55:341:55:37

What you waiting for?

1:55:451:55:47

BOTH: Keys.

1:55:471:55:48

-Keys. OK.

-Keys to the door.

1:55:481:55:50

Wicked.

1:55:511:55:52

People find it weird that we actually want to be here,

1:55:521:55:56

but at the end of the day, this was our home and it was my mum's home

1:55:561:55:59

and it was Shannen's home.

1:55:591:56:01

Ooh, we got letters.

1:56:011:56:02

It's just feels like we're back where we belong.

1:56:021:56:06

Yeah, it's lovely.

1:56:061:56:08

So this is where my mum and Shannen was found.

1:56:081:56:12

Can you feel someone in here, though?

1:56:161:56:18

It feels like very cold, like freezing.

1:56:181:56:20

Well, it's obvious, innit, there's no electric on.

1:56:201:56:23

This is a video of Jessica in her bedroom dancing.

1:56:261:56:31

And she just went to the door to make sure nobody was coming

1:56:351:56:40

to catch her, and now she's shaking her backside.

1:56:401:56:44

This is a song that Steven's friends made for him.

1:56:451:56:48

RAP MUSIC PLAYS

1:56:481:56:50

Even now, there's days where I wake up and I forget for a second

1:56:571:57:01

that he's not there,

1:57:011:57:02

you know, and them days are really bad days for me.

1:57:021:57:06

And there's been times when I've wanted to go and join Steven,

1:57:061:57:11

to be with him,

1:57:111:57:13

but my other children, you know,

1:57:131:57:16

I couldn't put them through it.

1:57:161:57:19

It's been a year now and they still ain't caught no-one.

1:57:191:57:23

And what would you like to see happen?

1:57:231:57:25

People get arrested for it.

1:57:251:57:29

And could you ever forgive him at all?

1:57:411:57:44

No.

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