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-POLICE RADIO: -Help me, I'm Amanda Berry! I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here, I'm free now! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
This is the story of three girls who, in two years, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
all went missing from the same street. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Michele Knight, 21, kidnapped August, 2002. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
Amanda Berry, almost 17, kidnapped April, 2003. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
And Gina DeJesus, aged 14, kidnapped April, 2004. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:28 | |
Until May, 2013, they were held captive inside this house | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
by a 52-year-old school bus driver and musician. His name? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
Ariel Castro. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
-POLICE RADIO: -We found them. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
So, who is the man who held the girls captive in a busy urban neighbourhood for 10 years? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
And how did he remain undetected? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
'I'm Rick Edwards, and I've come to the United States | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
'to meet the people who live close to Ariel Castro.' | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
His mother would come to see him | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
and he would check her out from the porch or come and talk to her. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
He wouldn't let her in the house. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
I go inside the hospital to hear from the medical team | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
who treated the girls. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
I did notice that the girls wanted to be together, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
so every time we would kind of separate them, they would come search for each other. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Inside 2207 Seymour Avenue, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
what Castro told a friend who heard strange noises upstairs... | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
I asked him, "What is these noises coming from?" | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
And he said he had some dogs. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
And inside the Castro family, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
why they want to meet the daughter he fathered in captivity. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
She's our cousin. She's our blood. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
And I want her to know that she doesn't have monster in her blood. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
So why did nobody know that this ordinary house in this ordinary street | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
was actually a prison? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
I've come to speak to the people here in the US city | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
of Cleveland to find out what really happened. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
This is a miracle. This does not happen. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
People do not come out alive out of this. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
This is Cleveland, Ohio, in the United States, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
a city that I know very little about. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
This area, downtown, looks nothing like the Cleveland | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
that I've seen depicted in recent press coverage. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It feels like a shiny, friendly American city. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
And yet somewhere very near here, three young women were held | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
in a house captive for 10 years | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
and subjected to unimaginable horrors, horrors that we don't even know the details of yet. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
It's hard to believe, it's hard to comprehend. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I want to find out more. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
It is around 5.45pm, May 6th, 2013. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
A sunny spring evening on Seymour Avenue on Cleveland's west side. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
This is a neighbourhood of mainly first-generation immigrants on low incomes. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Aurora Marti, from Puerto Rico, is sitting outside | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
when she hears shouts from the house over the road. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
With her sons present, she tells what happens next. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We were talking when we hear a shout. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
I looked in front of the house | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
and it was Amanda Berry shouting for help with her hand like this. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
She could poke her arm through a gap in the door. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
The door was chained shut so I couldn't really see her. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
She did this. "I said, help me, my name is Amanda Berry!" | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
Amanda's shouts are also heard by another neighbour, Charles Ramsey. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
I'm eating my McDonald's. I come outside. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
I see this girl going nuts, trying to get out of the house. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
So I go on the porch. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
I go on the porch and she says, "Help me get out." | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
"I've been here a long time." | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
So, you know, I figured it's a domestic violence dispute. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
My neighbour Angelo went over there and kicked a hole in the door. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:12 | |
Then they broke the chain. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
There was another part that Angelo broke, and she was able to get out. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Both of them were screaming. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
At 5.48, another neighbour's mobile phone captures the scene. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
Amanda Berry is out of the house and carrying a small child. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
She comes out with a little girl, and she says, "Call 911. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
"My name's Amanda Berry." | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
I'm calling the 911 for Amanda Berry? I thought this girl was dead. You know what I mean? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
But the drama isn't over yet. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
2207 Seymour Avenue is owned by a man named Ariel Castro. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
He's gone out but could return any moment. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I felt really scared he was going to come back | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
and there was nothing I could do. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
He always came and went. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
My neighbour shouted to me, "Grab them | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
"and bring them inside or he kill us!" | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
At 5.52, the dispatcher calls in a squad car. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
At 5.55, a neighbour's phone records police breaking into 2207 Seymour Avenue. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:06 | |
The police arrived. She ran over and hugged them. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
They straightaway put her inside the police car. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
When she was inside the car, she told them there were two more women. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
See, the girl Amanda told the police, "I ain't just only one. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
"It's some more girls up in that house." | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
And when they came out was just astonishing, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
because I thought they would come up with nothing. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
So they brought the other two out and took them to hospital. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
The other two girls were naked. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
They brought them down wrapped in blankets. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
He had them up there chained, naked. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
So, Paul, talk me through the sequence of events for you on May 6th, the evening. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
I just got home from work. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
It was about 14 minutes after six. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
I got a phone call from somebody highly placed telling me | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
that they'd found Gina and Amanda. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
My reaction was shock that they'd been found, but then he said, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
"And a third girl." I said, "There's another body?" | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
He said, "No, alive." And I was dumbfounded. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
At 6pm, a call goes out to trace Ariel Castro. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
At 6.16, police track him down. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
We've got Onil Castro | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
and Ariel Castro incarcerated down here at McDonald's. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
You know, the neighbours say they had no idea whatsoever. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
They are absolutely stunned. They describe this man as very friendly. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
He would come out to get his mail. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
He would chat and strike up conversation. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
But they never saw any of the young women. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
They never even suspected whatsoever. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
But right now, here on Seymour Avenue, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
there is incredible joy here in this neighbourhood. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Hundreds of news crews descend on Seymour Avenue. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Normal programming is suspended. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Live coverage takes over from night to next morning. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Good morning. Just a half a block away from suspect Ariel Castro's home, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
his uncle, who works at this convenience store. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
We spoke exclusively to Julio Castro about his nephew | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
to get his family's reaction. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Two days after the three women are found, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Ariel Castro is charged with four counts of kidnapping | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
and three counts of rape. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Bail is set at 8 million. He does not enter a plea. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
With respect to Mr Castro, he's waiving examination on each case. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
With respect to bond on Mr Castro, Mr Castro is 52 years old, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
he has lived in the area for 39 years, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
he is on unemployment compensation, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and to the best of my knowledge he has no convictions | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
for felonies or serious misdemeanours. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
So what did really happen all those years ago here in Cleveland? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
And why did it take more than 10 years to find three young women, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
two of them teenagers, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
who were snatched off the street and kept captive in a residential house? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
Let's start at the beginning. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
Michele Knight was last seen here on the corner of Lorain Avenue | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
on West 106th Street on August 22nd, 2002. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
Less than a year after that, and just four blocks that way, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
at West 110th Street, again on Lorain Avenue, Amanda Berry was last seen. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
That was on April 21st, 2003. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Less than a year after that, on April 2nd, 2004, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Gina DeJesus was seen at that phone box | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
on the corner of West 105th Street and Lorain Avenue. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
All Lorain Avenue. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
It seems that Ariel Castro took all of these girls from the same street. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
When the first of the three captives goes missing, there's no publicity. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
The victim is Michele Knight. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
It's August 22nd, 2002. Michelle is 21. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
She is last seen at her cousin's house | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
near West 106th Street and Lorain Avenue. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Her grandmother recalls for me the events of the day. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
When we first realised she didn't come home one day, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
I guess she went to the store or something over 106th, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and she never came back. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
We just thought that maybe she had walked to somebody's house to visit, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
so we didn't take no mind to it | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
until her mother had called the police | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
and they said they couldn't do nothing about it for 48 hours | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
or something, till they know if she's missing or not. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
We kept looking for her walking around, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
putting stuff on like the poles, putting up flyers... | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
'Michele Knight's life was hard. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
'She'd reportedly been assaulted at school and dropped out at 17 | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
'because she was pregnant. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
'Her child was taken away by social services | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
'just before she disappeared. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
'A missing persons report filed by her mother | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
'shows Michele is wearing blue shorts and a white T-shirt. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
'She has mental abnormalities and is often confused by her surroundings. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
'Her nickname is Shorty.' | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
At what point did you feel that you might never see Michele again? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
It took me, I would say, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
pretty much till about nine months, I would say, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
I started kind of giving up hope. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Yet my heart was saying that she was still out there someplace. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:21 | |
After 15 months, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
the police take Michelle off the missing persons list. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
To all intents and purposes, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Michele Knight has vanished off the face of the earth. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
But by this time, Ariel Castro has struck again. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
The victim is Amanda Berry. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
It's April 21st, 2003, the day before her 17th birthday. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
Amanda's heading home from her evening shift at Burger King on Lorain Avenue. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
She calls her sister to cancel her lift. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Someone else is driving her home. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Originally it was thought that Amanda had run away from home. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Then, a week later, a call was made from Amanda's mobile phone to her mother. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
The caller said that Amanda was fine | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
and that she'd be coming home in a couple of days. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
The police and the FBI concluded that Amanda wasn't a runaway, she was a missing person. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
People can sit back and say, "Oh, this will never happen to my child." | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
Well, guess what? It happened to my niece! | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Amanda's disappearance is big news. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Her family, led by her mother, Louwanna Miller, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
does everything possible to keep people looking for Amanda. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Her mother even agrees to go on television to ask a TV psychic | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
if Amanda is alive. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
Before an audience, she's told her daughter is dead. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
So you don't think I'll ever see her again? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Yeah, in heaven, on the other side. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
I can't understand why. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
She was such a good girl. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
Investigators dug into a prisoner's tip. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
Nothing of evidentiary value, nothing found in the dirt at all. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
'Cleveland police still don't know where Amanda Berry is. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
'But they know where she isn't. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
'And, for her family tonight, that's enough.' | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Day by day, I just think, "Either she'll come home | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
"or, one day, I'm going to find my peace." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Almost a year later, the third captive is taken. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
It's April 2nd, 2004. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Gina DeJesus, aged 14, is on her way home from school. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
She's at the junction of West 105th Street and Lorain Avenue. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
A car pulls up. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
She recognises the driver as Mr Castro, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
the father of one of her friends. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Castro offers Gina a lift home. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
Her family realise something's wrong | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
when she isn't home at her usual time. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Gina's reported missing. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
One of the most uncomfortable facts about this story | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
is that the DeJesus and Castro families know each other well. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Nancy Ruiz, Gina's mother, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
grew up with Ariel Castro in the same neighbourhood. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
When Gina's family held vigils for their daughter, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Castro would play music, dedicate songs to her and hug Gina's mother. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
He also joined searches and handed out flyers. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
With two teenagers disappearing from the same neighbourhood | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
in less than a year, people are angry and demanding action. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Volunteers publicise appeals for Amanda and Gina | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
but Cleveland TV reporters fear the worst. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Gina and Amanda, about a year apart... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Something's wrong. Something doesn't add up here, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
because coming home from school, working at a Burger King, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
these are not bad kids. And the proximity of... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
a couple of blocks apart, it just didn't add up, so that's why | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
I think these two cases got such attention from the media. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
It didn't necessarily help. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
If you see it, say it. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
On April 22nd this year, two weeks before the discovery, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
local TV marks the tenth anniversary of Amanda Berry's disappearance. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
If she is still alive, tomorrow will be Amanda Berry's 27th birthday. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
The 17-year-old disappeared walking home from work, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
which was at this Burger King on West 110th and Lorain. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
A decade's worth of investigation drummed up lots of leads | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
but no real answers here. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
But someone does have the answer. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
He's the man who kidnapped Michelle, Amanda and Gina | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
and drove them three miles away to his ordinary-looking house, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
where they've been captive for ten years. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
His name is Ariel Castro. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
So who is Ariel Castro? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
And how was he able to maintain a job, a social life, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
be a member of this community, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
yet keep three women hidden in his house for so long? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
From his Facebook page, he just looks like an ordinary guy. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
28 friends... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
just a catalogue of banal posts, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
some of which seem sinister or loaded in retrospect but... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
He posted this four days before the girls were found. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
He shared a post which reads... | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
"Do not lose sight of the fact that it's the child suffers." | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
He said, "True that." | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
Actually, all totally innocuous. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
But, then, why wouldn't they be? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
He's hardly going to write something incriminating. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
It occurs to me that, in fact, social media | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
provides the perfect opportunity for someone like this | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
to present an artifice of normality. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
It seems that no-one suspected the man | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
who played bass in a local salsa band. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
Ariel Castro was also protected by his family's reputation. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
The Castros are said to be pillars of the Puerto Rican community | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
in Cleveland's West Side. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
His cousin, Maria Montes, agreed to speak to me. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
She describes Ariel Castro's immediate family as tightknit. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
How close were you to Ariel? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Um, well... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
we were very close when we were younger. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
He was not born and raised here in Cleveland. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
He was born in Puerto Rico, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
with his other brothers and sister. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
They were very close. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
I mean, they were raised in the same home, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
they were raised by a single mum. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
His mum, after she had divorced from my uncle, she never remarried. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
She dedicated her life to raising her children. And... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
they were close. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
Javier and Daniel Marti went to the same school as Ariel Castro. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
I've known him, I mean, you know, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
all throughout high school and junior high, his whole family. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
He's got a great family. I mean, the guy was just a regular Joe. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
He was outgoing, smart, very talented - | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
played a bass, played in band, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
he would play softball every once in a while. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-He was always, like, into cars and everything and... -He loved his cars. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-Yeah, he had nice cars, bikes. -He loved his cars. -Yeah. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
He was just a regular kid. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
Ariel Castro moved into 2207 Seymour Avenue in 1992, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
with his wife and four children. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
He bought his house from his uncle | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
and started living there with his wife. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
But, soon, things were going wrong. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
His neighbours, people who'd known him from school, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
remember it was a time of horrible domestic violence. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
He was a wife-beater. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
-He was a wife-beater. He always beat his wife. -Yeah, he was. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
You know, she used to run out of the house and stuff and... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
a couple of times, she came over to use the phone, to call the police. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
But we never... I mean, never got into... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
because you don't get into matrimonial disputes. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
Court records show that Castro struggles to control his temper. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
He's been accused of attacking his former wife, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
who suffered broken ribs, a broken nose, dislocated shoulders | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
and a blood clot on the brain. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
However, she dropped the charges and the only consequence for Castro | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
seems to have been losing custody of their children. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
After he got a divorce, he always kept to himself. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-Yeah, he was the quiet type after that. -Real quiet, kept to himself. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-Yeah. -Like locked up. Secluded in the house. -Right. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
-Nobody went to the house. -No. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
We always found that strange, though. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I mean, me and my ex-wife would... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
talk about that. How that guy was weird. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Neighbours say he was guarded about who could come in his home, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
and that he only entered and exited through the back door. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
His mother would come to see him. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
He would check her out from the porch or come and talk to her in the car. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-He wouldn't let her in the house. -Never went inside the house, never. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
You wouldn't stay too long in the backyard. He'd walk you out. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
He'd walk you out of the backyard. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
Remember that day we was drinking back there? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Yeah, we had a couple of beers back there | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
but then, after a minute, I mean... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
we had to come out. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
Castro was carefully concealing the prisoners held captive | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
inside 2207 Seymour Avenue. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
To the outside world, he was living a normal life. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
During the day, he'd drive a school bus in Cleveland - | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
a job he'd had for 22 years. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
At night, he played bass guitar in a salsa band. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
I have come to Belinda's Nightclub in Cleveland, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
to meet Tito and William. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
They've known Ariel Castro for 20 years | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
and say he's one of the top bass guitarists they've played with. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
My God, what I can say about Ariel as a musician? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
One of the best musicians around. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
In this city, three bass players that are the best. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
And he was one of them. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Did you feel that you knew him? | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
Ariel was a person... He wanted to go dance, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
he would go and try and dance with somebody. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
And they would say no. Go back, say no. Go back, say no. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
And I'd tell him, "Come on, man. You'll embarrass yourself." He'd say, "No, I want to dance." | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
I would say, "Dude, if they don't want to dance with you, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
"you can't force them to dance with you." | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
He'd say, "Yeah, but look who I am, I'm a bass player, I'm on stage." | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
I'm like, "Who cares? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
"You can be Liberace or you could be the President. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
"If they don't want to dance with you, you can't force them to." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
And were you friends outside of music as well? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Yes, but not to a personal point where... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
He kept his personal life very...personal, if you will. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
He never talked about it and us, as musicians, you know, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
if somebody wanted to keep their personal life | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
away from the business, we respect that. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
It's not our problem. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
So personal, his family say that he even kept his secrets | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
from those closest to him, such as his two brothers, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
who were first arrested with Castro but then released without charge. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
I keep hearing people say, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
"How did these brothers not know | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
"that their brother was doing this? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
"Don't you visit your brother's home?" | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
I mean, he was a bachelor. So he lived alone. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
He probably made a lot of excuses, you know? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
"Oh, the house is a mess." | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
You know, "Oh, I don't have anything in my refrigerator." | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
You know, I am sure that's probably | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
how he kept people away from the home. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
And we've been hearing that... | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Ariel actually went out on some of the searches | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and took part in some of the vigils. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Right. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
Why would you think he would do something like that, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
knowing that he was the person that had...Gina? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Um...the only thing that I can possibly assume... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
is that perhaps... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
he wanted to... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
kind of have an inside track. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Did they suspect something? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Could they possibly know something? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
I have no way of knowing what went on in the mind... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
of a person who is such a monster | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
that he could look that mother in the face | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
and ask her how she was and how she was doing. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I just don't...I don't understand how he did any of what he did | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
but how do you look at that family | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
and pretend like nothing is wrong and pretend like you're caring for them? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:42 | |
That is so chilling. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
What were conditions like for Amanda, Gina | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and Michelle all those years? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
2207 Seymour Avenue seems pretty ordinary. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
Four bedrooms, one bathroom, a basement, no air conditioning. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Details are starting to emerge of what happened inside. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
For the three women and young child who were trapped here, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
the house is both a prison and a torture chamber. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
This 3-D model shows that it's always dark with windows | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
boarded up or covered. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Inside there are three floors and a basement. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Castro lives on the ground floor. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
He locks all the rooms upstairs and locks the basement | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and it's the basement where he first brings the women. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
It's small, dark and damp with a low ceiling. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
He chains them to the wall. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
Really hard for me to know | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
what she had to go through for the last 10 or 12 years. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
It was a living hell. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
They were chained to the walls to the basement. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Castro appears to treat the women differently. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
With Michelle Knight getting the worst punishment. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
The police assert that she was raped repeatedly | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
and became pregnant several times. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
But every pregnancy was miscarried | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
when Castro punched her in the stomach. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
It just really hurts me to think that he had turned around | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
and beated her in the stomach just to have her miscarry | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
so she couldn't have his kids. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
So have you thought about what Ariel Castro wanted Michelle for? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
Well, I think that | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
he wanted her as a sex slave... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
to do whatever... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
whatever he wanted her to do. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
That must make you angry. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Yes, it does. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
It makes me very angry to know that a human being would do | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
something like that to another human. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
She was just terrified for all their lives, for what he might do to them. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:11 | |
So I guess that's why in a way that she had went along with what he said. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
Them and...them two and her lived a living hell in that house. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
According to police and according to police reports, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
the house was kind of described as a prisoner-of-war camp. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
We were told that duct tape was used | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
when Castro left the house for any length of time. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
He would duct tape their mouth. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
So, we now know that the outside front door was padlocked shut. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
We know that the bedroom doors were padlocked. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
We know that they were chained in the basement for some | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
period of time, both from the ceiling and from the wall. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
We know that they were starved, we know that they were punched | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
and beaten. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
They were really scared. They were scared of... | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
To them, he was a monster. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
And that monster they didn't want to deal with. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
So whatever he said, they did, you know? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
And that's the horrible thing about that, that I see, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
he had them out once in the garage. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
I know he's got a big gate. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
He's gone at them, "Scream! | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
"All three of you, scream at the top of your lungs." | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Too scared to scream. Too terrified to scream. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
He manipulated them, you know, in such a way that | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
he had full control over three women in the house. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
And while Gina DeJesus is locked up in the house, her father is | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
visiting the neighbours just across the street. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
Gina's father, yeah, he came around a few times and... | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
I remember him coming over a few times and I... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
I remember him coming over and talking... | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
One time, I talked to him and I was telling him how sorry I felt. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
That girl was, like, 40 feet away from him and nobody knew nothing. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
They made a big hole over here down the block, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
looking for remains of them girls | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
and I remember sitting with Ariel talking about that, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:25 | |
how a person could do... take these girls and he would say, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
"What kind of person would do that?" | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
And all the time it was him and he had them girls up there. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
You know what he did? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
He went and got the tape, the crime-scene tape, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
he helped the police put up... | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
I've seen that with my own eyes, put up the crime-scene tape | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
around the street so people won't go over there. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
When Gina DeJesus came up missing, he gave money so... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
to her father or something, he made a donation | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
so they could keep searching for her and he had her all the time. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
As days become weeks and then months and years in that tiny, dark space, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
the women probably lose track of time. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
They live on a diet of fast food brought to them by their kidnapper. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
The girls down the street comment that they.. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
They would see him with big bags of McDonald's early in the morning. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:36 | |
They ate McDonald's for 10 years. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
'In later years, Castro allows them | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
'to live in separate rooms on the first floor where slits were | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
'found cut into the doors as if to allow food to be slid in and out. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
'It appears the women only come outside only | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
'twice during their decade in captivity. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
'Wearing disguises, they take a short walk in the yard. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
'Ricky Sanchez knew Castro for many years | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
'and went inside the house just days before the women escaped.' | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
When was the last time you came to the house? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
Last time I came here, it was last Thursday before it happened. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
So that was the 2nd? | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
-The 2nd. -And why did you go over? -Er... | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I came here cos because we became friends on Facebook | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
and he saw a British guitar that I had for sale | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
and he liked it pretty much and he wants me to come here | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
and show it to him, so then I spent about two hours in the house. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:37 | |
A young girl came, she show up from the back... | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
..and he approached her, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
he grabbed her by the arm and he asked her to say hi to me. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:50 | |
I said hi to her but she never said hi to me | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
and then he said that that was his granddaughter. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Was there anything else that you kind of noticed | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
when you were in the house? | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
There were some type of, like, noises that I hear. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
I don't know exactly where the noises came from and I asked him, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
"What are these noises coming from?" And he said that he had some | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
dogs in the second level of the house, the second floor. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
Knowing what you know now, knowing what you might have heard, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
what those noises might have been, how does that make you feel? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
When I heard the news at first, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
when it came out on Monday, I couldn't even believe. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I went home and started looking at the news, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
really deep into the news, and when I saw it was him, I saw | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
the picture, I could not believe, I was just inside the house. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
The little girl Ricky spoke to is not Castro's granddaughter, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
she's his daughter Jocelyn. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
On Christmas Day 2006, Amanda Berry aged 20 gives birth | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
to her in a paddling pool in the basement. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Michelle Knight is put in charge of the delivery. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
She says Castro threatens to kill her if the baby dies. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
Michelle keeps the baby alive with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
One of Castro's older daughters recalls seeing a picture. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
He showed me a picture that was on a cellphone randomly and he said, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
"Look at this cute little girl." | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
It was a face shot and I said, "She's cute, who is that?" | 0:34:10 | 0:34:16 | |
you know, and he said, "This is my girlfriend's child." | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
And I said, "Dad, that girl looks like Emily." | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Emily's my younger sister and he said, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
"No, that's not my child, that's my girlfriend's child by somebody else." | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Cleveland June 2008 - the moment | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
when the local police did catch up with Ariel Castro. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
Arresting officer Jim Simone doesn't know it but Castro has | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
already kidnapped three girls and is holding them captive in his house. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
I stopped him on a traffic violation in June of 2008. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
He didn't have a licence. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
The plates did not belong to that particular motorcycle. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Normally I would have arrested him, had he given me any back talk, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
had been flippant with me or made some remark. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I'd have slipped the cuffs on him and taken him to jail. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
He mentioned the fact that he was a school bus driver. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
I didn't want to take him to jail | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and have him lose his job over a traffic violation. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
I didn't arrest him. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
I gave him a ticket and let him push the bike home. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
I did a check on him. All these cars have computers | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
and you can do a background check on anybody. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
He only had a few traffic violations and no criminal background. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
With that, I gave him the tickets and let him go. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
I made 10,000 arrests as a policeman. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
That's not traffic tickets, that's 10,000 people I've put | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
handcuffs on thrown in the back of the car and took them to jail. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
There are times when you're amazed how bad it gets. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Jim has been a Cleveland cop for 38 years. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
18 patrolling the second district which includes Seymour Avenue. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I went past this house 1,000 times. Nothing at that house | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
drew my attention, even with the crime-scene tape around it. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
It was just a house on Seymour. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
Yet in that house, there was | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
a heinous crime being committed every second of every day for ten years. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
While police incompetence features highly in many of America's | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
most notorious kidnap cases, the failure to find Castro | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
and the Cleveland captives may be down to something else. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
The missing persons database kept by the Cleveland police | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
department has over 100 names on it as of last week with nearly | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
half of them missing all year. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
When you look at this list of names, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
you get an idea of how swamped the police are. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
Do they have the resources to cope? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
In the Second District alone, which is where Castro's house is, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
71 people are missing right now. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
The number of detectives assigned to work on cases of missing | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
people is one. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
Do you feel like the police have done a good job? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
No, I think that they could have done a better job | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
than what they were doing, especially for her. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
Do you feel there's enough resources at the police's disposal to | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
successfully look for these kids that go missing? | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
No. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
No, there's not. We handle a realm of things. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
It's not just the missing persons. It's the auto theft. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
It's the burglaries. It's the rape. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
The B and Es, the shooting, the homicide. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
In reality, the chief may want to contradict me later on, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
we're stretched thin. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
You don't have the man hours to invest in a major investigation. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
When I was a young policemen, it was about catching the bad guy. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Today, it's how much is it going to cost us to catch the bad guy? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
If it costs too much, it's set aside. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
What happens, they make the initial investigation, then we wait. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
We wait for the body to be found, or in this case, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
for some amazing rescue. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
..members of the community who still want to know what happened to her. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Just two weeks before the amazing rescue, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
local TV marks the tenth anniversary of Amanda Berry's disappearance. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
No-one knows she's alive and in a house just a few miles away. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
The vigil just breaking up in the last five minutes and those | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
who were in attendance today and everyone around here | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
and the city to know it's never too late to do the right thing. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
No tip, no clue, is too small. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
The clue is provided by Ariel Castro himself. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
He's gone out but hasn't chained up all of his captives. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Finally, he's made a mistake. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Was he good or what?! | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
What kind of person would do something like that? He slipped. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
Amanda Berry can see the front door open | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
though the outer storm door made of thin wire mesh is bolted shut. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Often Castro would test his captives by leaving doors unlocked. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
He beats them if they try to get out. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
Because Amanda can see Aurora Marti on the porch opposite, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
she goes for it. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
-'Help me. I'm Amanda Berry. -Do you need police, fire or ambulance? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-'I need police. -OK, what's going on there? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
'I've been kidnapped and I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
'I'm free now.' | 0:40:09 | 0:40:10 | |
On a day that will long be remembered, Charles Ramsey's | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
account of the break-out makes him an instant internet legend. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
I knew something was wrong | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
when a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Something is wrong here! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Dead giveaway. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
'From Seymour Avenue, ambulances rush Michelle, Amanda, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
'Gina and the child to the local hospital. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
'Gerald Maloney is the admitting doctor.' | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
-You were in charge of their care for the evening. -Yes. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
They came in by ambulance and there was a lot of law enforcement | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
officers, Both local police and FBI, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
with them as well at that point. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
It was fairly chaotic when everybody came in initially. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
There were a lot of people here. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
There was a lot of energy, good energy. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Where were the girls taken immediately when they arrived? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
They were taken to the rooms behind us. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
-Would it be possible to have a look? -Absolutely. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
'It's the first time any cameras have been allowed into the room | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
'where Amanda, Michelle and Gina were examined.' | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
We did an exam, checked their head, neck, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
body extremities looking for any injuries or medical issues. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:23 | |
Too often, we hear the end to these stories... | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
We don't hear of people being found | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
and being alive. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
It's usually finding remains. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
We're very excited they were alive. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
We were very excited we were the first safe harbour for them | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
after they'd been rescued. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Nurse Betsy Martinez is a neighbour of the DeJesus family and has | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
a daughter the same age as Gina. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
She's on duty on May 6th and is just about to have dinner | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
when her boss breaks the news that will live with her for ever. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
They found the man that had Berry and Gina DeJesus. I could not... | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
I didn't understand. Who? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
I kept saying, "Who?" He said, "Amanda Berry and Georgina DeJesus." | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I was in awe about it. He was, "I need somebody back there with them." | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
Forget dinner, I'm on my way in. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
I dropped my purse, ran back into the trauma bays | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
when I noticed Georgina and Amanda Berry walking in. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
It was a big deal to me cos it was like hitting home. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
I remember seeing Georgina and I hugged her and said, "Welcome home." | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
I tried to do some nursing and get her vital signs | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
and I was just in awe about it. I kept staring at her. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
I couldn't believe that I was sitting next to her. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
Then to see Amanda Berry and her beautiful child. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
It was confusion, but I had to do my job and stay professional first. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:49 | |
What I thought was professional was to love them and let them | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
know that they were safe. You were crying, you were happy, you were sad. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:58 | |
It wasn't about what happened to them. It was welcome home. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
"We've been looking for you for a decade. What can I get for you? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
"What can I do for you?" | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
It was a very emotional and exciting day to have the pleasure... | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
to see her father and her mother and sister walk in. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
To see them for that first moment. You got butterflies. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
You got goose bumps. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
You try to wipe your tears and stay professional but I couldn't help it. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
How did the girls seem? | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
They were still trying to get their surroundings. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
They were, like, "Who are you?" | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
I made sure that everyone introduced themselves. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
So they knew that they were workers here. They were safe. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
I did notice that the girls wanted to be together. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Every time we would separate them, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
they would come search for each other. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
They kept asking for the other one. We had to let them know, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
"They're just around the corner. They're here." | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
You could tell that they had a bond. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
You mention that you're from the neighbourhood. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
What was the effect at the time when the girls disappeared? | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
You could not go anywhere in Cleveland | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
and not know Amanda Berry's name or Georgina. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
You could not go anywhere in Cleveland... | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
There were signs everywhere. The family never gave up. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
I could not believe that they were alive. I did not... | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
This doesn't happen. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
This is a miracle that I will probably never see again in my life. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
This does not happen. People do not come alive out of this. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
I remember one time, pinching Georgina and she's like, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
"Why did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because you're here. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
"This is not a dream." | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
It was that amazing. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:30 | |
After 10 years of waiting, relatives | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
and neighbours can finally celebrate. But there's also anger. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
Some like Gina's uncle struggle for control. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
I want to bust down and cry right now. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
-But... -Tears of relief? -Yeah. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
And I don't know if you can print this or put this on the air | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
but if I got my hands on that guy... | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
Amanda Berry had made the news for 10 years as a missing person. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
Now it's a different story. From the sister who dreamed of her | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
coming home, a plea for privacy. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
I just want to say we are so happy to have Amanda | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
and her daughter home. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
I want to thank the public and the media for their support | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
and courage over the years. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
At this time, our family would request privacy so my sister | 0:45:19 | 0:45:24 | |
and niece and I can have time to recover. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
Amanda learns that, in 2006, three years after her kidnap, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
her mother had died. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Louwanna Miller had never stopped fighting | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
for her daughter to be found. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
Friends say she never recovered from Amanda's disappearance. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Gina had been taken aged 14. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
She returns to her parents as a 23-year-old. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
We want to have a block party and close the street down. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
CHEERING | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
That's the best... | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
That's the best Mother's Day present any mother could have. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
CHEERING | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
CHEERING | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
-REPORTER: -She gave a big thumbs up as she got out of the van. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
There she goes, in the green. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Michelle's condition is more serious. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
She leaves hospital five days later but doesn't go home to her family. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
Instead, she goes to Gina's house. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
I have come to Gina's house and it is actually very confusing. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
I don't really know how to feel. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
The banner suggests celebration | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
and, yet, is this a celebration? | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
The police tape is a very stark reminder that something | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
terrible has happened. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
The 14-year-old girl on that missing poster is gone. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
Who is she now? | 0:47:20 | 0:47:21 | |
We know that Gina and Michelle are in that house. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
It's interesting that, having been forced together for nearly | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
nine years, Gina and Michelle are now choosing to be together. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
I assume because they have grown to rely upon one another. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
So I don't really feel comfortable staying here any longer | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
because both girls obviously want privacy | 0:47:42 | 0:47:48 | |
and don't want cameras outside their house the whole time. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:54 | |
I'm kind of looking at that tarpaulin and this is speculation | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
but I assume that the last thing that either of them want is to be | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
cooped up inside a house after being cooped up inside a house for | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
so long so they have had to put the tarpaulin across the backyard | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
so they can still maintain a degree of privacy. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
Michelle's grandmother is still waiting to see her. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
We've was told that she didn't want to see us at all | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
so that kind of really hurt all of us to figure... | 0:48:22 | 0:48:28 | |
You know, to think that all these years that she didn't want to see us. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:33 | |
So we was all kind of frustrated and crying and all this | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
because if somebody would come up to you and say, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
"Well, your daughter or your granddaughter | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
"don't want to see you," | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
it would kind of hurt you or break your heart | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
and that's kind of what it was doing to us. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
We thought, kind of, that she was blaming us | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
for not giving her the attention like Amanda's and Gina's family did. | 0:48:54 | 0:49:02 | |
Do you think that, from what you have seen of the press coverage, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
your family has been represented in a good light? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Well, we heard that... | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
It was going around in there that, as a family, we was beating her, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
tormenting her, we was abusing her, um... | 0:49:20 | 0:49:26 | |
..we didn't care about her or nothing because we didn't look for her. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
That's not the truth. That's not the truth at all. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
So, if he is found guilty, what punishment should | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Ariel Castro now face - life in prison or the death penalty? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
The death penalty is on the statute in Ohio | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
and prosecutors say that they will press for it | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
if it is found that Castro forcibly caused any of the women to miscarry. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:58 | |
In Ohio, a foetus has personhood | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
so, as a person, that can be construed as murder. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
The county prosecutor, Timothy McGinty, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
has said he intends to pursue that and see | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
if the claims that he forced miscarriages five times is true. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
I suppose medical testing could figure that out in some fashion. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
I'm certainly not a doctor but, yeah, a foetus as a person, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
has personhood in Ohio, therefore the murder charge. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
And if a murder is committed in the commission of another crime, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
it would be aggravated murder and that would be the death penalty. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
For multiple murders is another aggravating circumstances. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
In that case, we have the death penalty in Ohio | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
and he could be executed. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:37 | |
Talking about the death penalty, I think that's too easy for him. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
I think they should just make him suffer | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
like he made them girls suffer. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
He needs to suffer. The death penalty is way too easy. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
As far as it goes, if they give him the death sentence, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
the death penalty, that's fine. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
But I'd really like to see him get more than that. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
I'd like to really see him suffer as they had to suffer. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Justice needs to be served here, for sure. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
He should never see the day of light again in his life. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
He'll never see the daylight again. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
Whatever he did to those girls, you can rest assured that while | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
he is in the penitentiary it's going to be very, very difficult for him. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
Cos there is a hierarchy in a jail. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
At the top of the list is the police-killer. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
He is the number one guy. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
It goes all the way down and the bottom social rung | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
in the jail are perverts and sexual deviants. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
Because even the murderers have mothers, sisters and kids. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
No-one wants to be in Ariel Castro's shoes right now. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
What do you think should happen to Ariel Castro? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
-Are you asking me as a policeman or a father? -Both. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
As a father, I have three daughters, I think that | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
Ariel Castro should be brought out onto the streets | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
and handcuffed to that telephone pole | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
and we go get the fathers of those three girls and give them | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
Louisville Sluggers and go, "There he is. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
"Do what a father would do." | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
As a police officer, I am bound by oath. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
There are things that you know you would love to do, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
that the person deserves it, but you can't do that. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
The county prosecutor is currently | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
preparing the case against Ariel Castro. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
Right now he is going to present evidence to a county grand jury | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
and by every indication he is going to seek additional charges. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
He is looking at filing charges for every day each woman was | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
kidnapped, every time that they were raped | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
and every time there was a lost pregnancy. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
I don't believe there is a torture law in Ohio but there | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
really doesn't need to be one for him to seek the death penalty. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
This is a very hard-nosed, aggressive prosecutor. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
He not only sounds tough, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
he is tough and I think he will seek the maximum penalty. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
But Ariel Castro's defence team has said that he intends to plead | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
not guilty to all charges. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
I spoke with his attorneys. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
His attorneys told me that Castro has not confessed to any crime. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
In fact, the attorneys call him a regular guy who has a heart | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
and who loves his child. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
I think that the initial portrayal by the media | 0:53:27 | 0:53:33 | |
has been one of a, quote, monster | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
and that's not the impression that I got | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
when I talked to him for three hours. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
This is the initial stages of the investigation | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
by the prosecutor's office as well as the defence | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
but it is to be expected that it will be a not guilty plea to all charges. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
For his victims, Michelle, Amanda and Gina, | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
this will lengthen the legal proceedings. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
Meanwhile, his cousin Maria wants to convince them | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
that the Castros are a good family. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
As a family, the Castros, we are | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
so incredibly sorry that these horrible things happened | 0:54:11 | 0:54:18 | |
to them at the hands of someone | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
that is a part of our family. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
Or was a part of our family. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
You know, I would love nothing more than for, one day, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
for these girls to be able to meet the rest of us | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
in one of our family gatherings or one of our family reunions | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
and...and see the good people that are a part of this family, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:48 | |
the happy people that are a part of this family, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
the people that are generous and kind and loving | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
and...and I would love for them to experience that. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:59 | |
I would love nothing more than to meet that little girl Jocelyn. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:04 | |
I mean, it's been proven now that she is his child. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:11 | |
That means she's our cousin. She is our blood. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
And I want her to know that she doesn't have monster in her blood. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:23 | |
She has good, kind, generous, loving blood. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:30 | |
If there is a positive message that survives this story, it is | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
perhaps one of strength in the face of terrible circumstances. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
There is the incredible strength of the three women, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
Michelle, Amanda and Gina, who survived together, defied their | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
captor and are now receiving the best psychological and medical care. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
Strength is also being displayed by the people of Cleveland. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Their initial joy and relief was quickly overtaken by fear and guilt. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
I have heard people talk about being scared of their neighbours, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
feeling that they can't trust anyone. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
But now a new mood is detectable. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
People are talking about how to make changes | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
to ensure that this never happens again. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
The phrase that I keep hearing is, "We are our brother's keeper." | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
CHANTING: Gina! Gina! Gina! | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
CHEERING | 0:56:19 | 0:56:20 | |
-REPORTER: -There she goes, in the green. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
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