The Cleveland Captives: What Really Happened?


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-POLICE RADIO:

-Help me, I'm Amanda Berry! I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here, I'm free now!

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This is the story of three girls who, in two years,

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all went missing from the same street.

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Michele Knight, 21, kidnapped August, 2002.

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Amanda Berry, almost 17, kidnapped April, 2003.

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And Gina DeJesus, aged 14, kidnapped April, 2004.

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Until May, 2013, they were held captive inside this house

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by a 52-year-old school bus driver and musician. His name?

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Ariel Castro.

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-POLICE RADIO:

-We found them.

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So, who is the man who held the girls captive in a busy urban neighbourhood for 10 years?

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And how did he remain undetected?

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'I'm Rick Edwards, and I've come to the United States

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'to meet the people who live close to Ariel Castro.'

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His mother would come to see him

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and he would check her out from the porch or come and talk to her.

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He wouldn't let her in the house.

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I go inside the hospital to hear from the medical team

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who treated the girls.

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I did notice that the girls wanted to be together,

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so every time we would kind of separate them, they would come search for each other.

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Inside 2207 Seymour Avenue,

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what Castro told a friend who heard strange noises upstairs...

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I asked him, "What is these noises coming from?"

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And he said he had some dogs.

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And inside the Castro family,

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why they want to meet the daughter he fathered in captivity.

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She's our cousin. She's our blood.

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And I want her to know that she doesn't have monster in her blood.

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So why did nobody know that this ordinary house in this ordinary street

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was actually a prison?

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I've come to speak to the people here in the US city

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of Cleveland to find out what really happened.

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CROWD CHEERS

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This is a miracle. This does not happen.

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People do not come out alive out of this.

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This is Cleveland, Ohio, in the United States,

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a city that I know very little about.

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This area, downtown, looks nothing like the Cleveland

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that I've seen depicted in recent press coverage.

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It feels like a shiny, friendly American city.

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And yet somewhere very near here, three young women were held

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in a house captive for 10 years

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and subjected to unimaginable horrors, horrors that we don't even know the details of yet.

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It's hard to believe, it's hard to comprehend.

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I want to find out more.

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It is around 5.45pm, May 6th, 2013.

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A sunny spring evening on Seymour Avenue on Cleveland's west side.

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This is a neighbourhood of mainly first-generation immigrants on low incomes.

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Aurora Marti, from Puerto Rico, is sitting outside

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when she hears shouts from the house over the road.

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With her sons present, she tells what happens next.

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-TRANSLATION:

-We were talking when we hear a shout.

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I looked in front of the house

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and it was Amanda Berry shouting for help with her hand like this.

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She could poke her arm through a gap in the door.

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The door was chained shut so I couldn't really see her.

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She did this. "I said, help me, my name is Amanda Berry!"

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Amanda's shouts are also heard by another neighbour, Charles Ramsey.

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I'm eating my McDonald's. I come outside.

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I see this girl going nuts, trying to get out of the house.

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So I go on the porch.

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I go on the porch and she says, "Help me get out."

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"I've been here a long time."

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So, you know, I figured it's a domestic violence dispute.

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My neighbour Angelo went over there and kicked a hole in the door.

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Then they broke the chain.

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There was another part that Angelo broke, and she was able to get out.

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Both of them were screaming.

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At 5.48, another neighbour's mobile phone captures the scene.

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Amanda Berry is out of the house and carrying a small child.

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She comes out with a little girl, and she says, "Call 911.

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"My name's Amanda Berry."

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I'm calling the 911 for Amanda Berry? I thought this girl was dead. You know what I mean?

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But the drama isn't over yet.

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2207 Seymour Avenue is owned by a man named Ariel Castro.

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He's gone out but could return any moment.

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I felt really scared he was going to come back

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and there was nothing I could do.

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He always came and went.

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My neighbour shouted to me, "Grab them

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"and bring them inside or he kill us!"

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At 5.52, the dispatcher calls in a squad car.

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At 5.55, a neighbour's phone records police breaking into 2207 Seymour Avenue.

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The police arrived. She ran over and hugged them.

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They straightaway put her inside the police car.

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When she was inside the car, she told them there were two more women.

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See, the girl Amanda told the police, "I ain't just only one.

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"It's some more girls up in that house."

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And when they came out was just astonishing,

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because I thought they would come up with nothing.

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So they brought the other two out and took them to hospital.

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The other two girls were naked.

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They brought them down wrapped in blankets.

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He had them up there chained, naked.

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So, Paul, talk me through the sequence of events for you on May 6th, the evening.

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I just got home from work.

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It was about 14 minutes after six.

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I got a phone call from somebody highly placed telling me

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that they'd found Gina and Amanda.

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My reaction was shock that they'd been found, but then he said,

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"And a third girl." I said, "There's another body?"

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He said, "No, alive." And I was dumbfounded.

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At 6pm, a call goes out to trace Ariel Castro.

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At 6.16, police track him down.

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We've got Onil Castro

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and Ariel Castro incarcerated down here at McDonald's.

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You know, the neighbours say they had no idea whatsoever.

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They are absolutely stunned. They describe this man as very friendly.

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He would come out to get his mail.

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He would chat and strike up conversation.

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But they never saw any of the young women.

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They never even suspected whatsoever.

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But right now, here on Seymour Avenue,

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there is incredible joy here in this neighbourhood.

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Hundreds of news crews descend on Seymour Avenue.

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Normal programming is suspended.

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Live coverage takes over from night to next morning.

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Good morning. Just a half a block away from suspect Ariel Castro's home,

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his uncle, who works at this convenience store.

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We spoke exclusively to Julio Castro about his nephew

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to get his family's reaction.

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Two days after the three women are found,

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Ariel Castro is charged with four counts of kidnapping

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and three counts of rape.

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Bail is set at 8 million. He does not enter a plea.

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With respect to Mr Castro, he's waiving examination on each case.

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With respect to bond on Mr Castro, Mr Castro is 52 years old,

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he has lived in the area for 39 years,

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he is on unemployment compensation,

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and to the best of my knowledge he has no convictions

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for felonies or serious misdemeanours.

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So what did really happen all those years ago here in Cleveland?

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And why did it take more than 10 years to find three young women,

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two of them teenagers,

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who were snatched off the street and kept captive in a residential house?

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Let's start at the beginning.

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Michele Knight was last seen here on the corner of Lorain Avenue

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on West 106th Street on August 22nd, 2002.

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Less than a year after that, and just four blocks that way,

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at West 110th Street, again on Lorain Avenue, Amanda Berry was last seen.

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That was on April 21st, 2003.

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Less than a year after that, on April 2nd, 2004,

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Gina DeJesus was seen at that phone box

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on the corner of West 105th Street and Lorain Avenue.

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All Lorain Avenue.

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It seems that Ariel Castro took all of these girls from the same street.

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When the first of the three captives goes missing, there's no publicity.

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The victim is Michele Knight.

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It's August 22nd, 2002. Michelle is 21.

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She is last seen at her cousin's house

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near West 106th Street and Lorain Avenue.

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Her grandmother recalls for me the events of the day.

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When we first realised she didn't come home one day,

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I guess she went to the store or something over 106th,

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and she never came back.

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We just thought that maybe she had walked to somebody's house to visit,

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so we didn't take no mind to it

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until her mother had called the police

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and they said they couldn't do nothing about it for 48 hours

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or something, till they know if she's missing or not.

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We kept looking for her walking around,

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putting stuff on like the poles, putting up flyers...

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'Michele Knight's life was hard.

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'She'd reportedly been assaulted at school and dropped out at 17

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'because she was pregnant.

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'Her child was taken away by social services

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'just before she disappeared.

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'A missing persons report filed by her mother

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'shows Michele is wearing blue shorts and a white T-shirt.

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'She has mental abnormalities and is often confused by her surroundings.

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'Her nickname is Shorty.'

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At what point did you feel that you might never see Michele again?

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It took me, I would say,

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pretty much till about nine months, I would say,

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I started kind of giving up hope.

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Yet my heart was saying that she was still out there someplace.

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After 15 months,

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the police take Michelle off the missing persons list.

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To all intents and purposes,

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Michele Knight has vanished off the face of the earth.

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But by this time, Ariel Castro has struck again.

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The victim is Amanda Berry.

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It's April 21st, 2003, the day before her 17th birthday.

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Amanda's heading home from her evening shift at Burger King on Lorain Avenue.

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She calls her sister to cancel her lift.

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Someone else is driving her home.

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Originally it was thought that Amanda had run away from home.

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Then, a week later, a call was made from Amanda's mobile phone to her mother.

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The caller said that Amanda was fine

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and that she'd be coming home in a couple of days.

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The police and the FBI concluded that Amanda wasn't a runaway, she was a missing person.

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People can sit back and say, "Oh, this will never happen to my child."

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Well, guess what? It happened to my niece!

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Amanda's disappearance is big news.

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Her family, led by her mother, Louwanna Miller,

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does everything possible to keep people looking for Amanda.

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Her mother even agrees to go on television to ask a TV psychic

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if Amanda is alive.

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Before an audience, she's told her daughter is dead.

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So you don't think I'll ever see her again?

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Yeah, in heaven, on the other side.

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I can't understand why.

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She was such a good girl.

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Investigators dug into a prisoner's tip.

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Nothing of evidentiary value, nothing found in the dirt at all.

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'Cleveland police still don't know where Amanda Berry is.

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'But they know where she isn't.

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'And, for her family tonight, that's enough.'

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Day by day, I just think, "Either she'll come home

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"or, one day, I'm going to find my peace."

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Almost a year later, the third captive is taken.

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It's April 2nd, 2004.

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Gina DeJesus, aged 14, is on her way home from school.

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She's at the junction of West 105th Street and Lorain Avenue.

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A car pulls up.

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She recognises the driver as Mr Castro,

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the father of one of her friends.

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Castro offers Gina a lift home.

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Her family realise something's wrong

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when she isn't home at her usual time.

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Gina's reported missing.

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One of the most uncomfortable facts about this story

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is that the DeJesus and Castro families know each other well.

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Nancy Ruiz, Gina's mother,

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grew up with Ariel Castro in the same neighbourhood.

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When Gina's family held vigils for their daughter,

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Castro would play music, dedicate songs to her and hug Gina's mother.

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He also joined searches and handed out flyers.

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With two teenagers disappearing from the same neighbourhood

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in less than a year, people are angry and demanding action.

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Volunteers publicise appeals for Amanda and Gina

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but Cleveland TV reporters fear the worst.

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Gina and Amanda, about a year apart...

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Something's wrong. Something doesn't add up here,

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because coming home from school, working at a Burger King,

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these are not bad kids. And the proximity of...

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a couple of blocks apart, it just didn't add up, so that's why

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I think these two cases got such attention from the media.

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It didn't necessarily help.

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If you see it, say it.

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On April 22nd this year, two weeks before the discovery,

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local TV marks the tenth anniversary of Amanda Berry's disappearance.

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If she is still alive, tomorrow will be Amanda Berry's 27th birthday.

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The 17-year-old disappeared walking home from work,

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which was at this Burger King on West 110th and Lorain.

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A decade's worth of investigation drummed up lots of leads

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but no real answers here.

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But someone does have the answer.

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He's the man who kidnapped Michelle, Amanda and Gina

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and drove them three miles away to his ordinary-looking house,

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where they've been captive for ten years.

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His name is Ariel Castro.

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So who is Ariel Castro?

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And how was he able to maintain a job, a social life,

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be a member of this community,

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yet keep three women hidden in his house for so long?

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From his Facebook page, he just looks like an ordinary guy.

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28 friends...

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just a catalogue of banal posts,

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some of which seem sinister or loaded in retrospect but...

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He posted this four days before the girls were found.

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He shared a post which reads...

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"Do not lose sight of the fact that it's the child suffers."

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He said, "True that."

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Actually, all totally innocuous.

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But, then, why wouldn't they be?

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He's hardly going to write something incriminating.

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It occurs to me that, in fact, social media

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provides the perfect opportunity for someone like this

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to present an artifice of normality.

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It seems that no-one suspected the man

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who played bass in a local salsa band.

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Ariel Castro was also protected by his family's reputation.

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The Castros are said to be pillars of the Puerto Rican community

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in Cleveland's West Side.

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His cousin, Maria Montes, agreed to speak to me.

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She describes Ariel Castro's immediate family as tightknit.

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How close were you to Ariel?

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Um, well...

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we were very close when we were younger.

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He was not born and raised here in Cleveland.

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He was born in Puerto Rico,

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with his other brothers and sister.

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They were very close.

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I mean, they were raised in the same home,

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they were raised by a single mum.

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His mum, after she had divorced from my uncle, she never remarried.

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She dedicated her life to raising her children. And...

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they were close.

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Javier and Daniel Marti went to the same school as Ariel Castro.

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I've known him, I mean, you know,

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all throughout high school and junior high, his whole family.

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He's got a great family. I mean, the guy was just a regular Joe.

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He was outgoing, smart, very talented -

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played a bass, played in band,

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he would play softball every once in a while.

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-He was always, like, into cars and everything and...

-He loved his cars.

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-Yeah, he had nice cars, bikes.

-He loved his cars.

-Yeah.

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He was just a regular kid.

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Ariel Castro moved into 2207 Seymour Avenue in 1992,

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with his wife and four children.

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He bought his house from his uncle

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and started living there with his wife.

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But, soon, things were going wrong.

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His neighbours, people who'd known him from school,

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remember it was a time of horrible domestic violence.

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He was a wife-beater.

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-He was a wife-beater. He always beat his wife.

-Yeah, he was.

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You know, she used to run out of the house and stuff and...

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a couple of times, she came over to use the phone, to call the police.

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But we never... I mean, never got into...

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because you don't get into matrimonial disputes.

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Court records show that Castro struggles to control his temper.

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He's been accused of attacking his former wife,

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who suffered broken ribs, a broken nose, dislocated shoulders

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and a blood clot on the brain.

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However, she dropped the charges and the only consequence for Castro

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seems to have been losing custody of their children.

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After he got a divorce, he always kept to himself.

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-Yeah, he was the quiet type after that.

-Real quiet, kept to himself.

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-Yeah.

-Like locked up. Secluded in the house.

-Right.

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-Nobody went to the house.

-No.

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We always found that strange, though.

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I mean, me and my ex-wife would...

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talk about that. How that guy was weird.

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Neighbours say he was guarded about who could come in his home,

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and that he only entered and exited through the back door.

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His mother would come to see him.

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He would check her out from the porch or come and talk to her in the car.

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-He wouldn't let her in the house.

-Never went inside the house, never.

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You wouldn't stay too long in the backyard. He'd walk you out.

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He'd walk you out of the backyard.

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Remember that day we was drinking back there?

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Yeah, we had a couple of beers back there

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but then, after a minute, I mean...

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we had to come out.

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Castro was carefully concealing the prisoners held captive

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inside 2207 Seymour Avenue.

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To the outside world, he was living a normal life.

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During the day, he'd drive a school bus in Cleveland -

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a job he'd had for 22 years.

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At night, he played bass guitar in a salsa band.

0:22:340:22:36

I have come to Belinda's Nightclub in Cleveland,

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to meet Tito and William.

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They've known Ariel Castro for 20 years

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and say he's one of the top bass guitarists they've played with.

0:22:460:22:50

My God, what I can say about Ariel as a musician?

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One of the best musicians around.

0:22:520:22:55

In this city, three bass players that are the best.

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And he was one of them.

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Did you feel that you knew him?

0:23:020:23:04

Ariel was a person... He wanted to go dance,

0:23:040:23:07

he would go and try and dance with somebody.

0:23:070:23:09

And they would say no. Go back, say no. Go back, say no.

0:23:090:23:12

And I'd tell him, "Come on, man. You'll embarrass yourself." He'd say, "No, I want to dance."

0:23:120:23:16

I would say, "Dude, if they don't want to dance with you,

0:23:190:23:21

"you can't force them to dance with you."

0:23:210:23:23

He'd say, "Yeah, but look who I am, I'm a bass player, I'm on stage."

0:23:230:23:27

I'm like, "Who cares?

0:23:270:23:28

"You can be Liberace or you could be the President.

0:23:280:23:31

"If they don't want to dance with you, you can't force them to."

0:23:310:23:34

And were you friends outside of music as well?

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Yes, but not to a personal point where...

0:23:400:23:44

He kept his personal life very...personal, if you will.

0:23:440:23:48

He never talked about it and us, as musicians, you know,

0:23:480:23:51

if somebody wanted to keep their personal life

0:23:510:23:53

away from the business, we respect that.

0:23:530:23:56

It's not our problem.

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So personal, his family say that he even kept his secrets

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from those closest to him, such as his two brothers,

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who were first arrested with Castro but then released without charge.

0:24:070:24:11

I keep hearing people say,

0:24:110:24:13

"How did these brothers not know

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"that their brother was doing this?

0:24:140:24:17

"Don't you visit your brother's home?"

0:24:170:24:18

I mean, he was a bachelor. So he lived alone.

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He probably made a lot of excuses, you know?

0:24:210:24:24

"Oh, the house is a mess."

0:24:240:24:25

You know, "Oh, I don't have anything in my refrigerator."

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You know, I am sure that's probably

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how he kept people away from the home.

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And we've been hearing that...

0:24:340:24:36

Ariel actually went out on some of the searches

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and took part in some of the vigils.

0:24:400:24:42

Right.

0:24:420:24:43

Why would you think he would do something like that,

0:24:440:24:47

knowing that he was the person that had...Gina?

0:24:470:24:51

Um...the only thing that I can possibly assume...

0:24:530:24:59

is that perhaps...

0:24:590:25:02

he wanted to...

0:25:020:25:04

kind of have an inside track.

0:25:040:25:07

Did they suspect something?

0:25:070:25:10

Could they possibly know something?

0:25:100:25:12

I have no way of knowing what went on in the mind...

0:25:120:25:18

of a person who is such a monster

0:25:180:25:20

that he could look that mother in the face

0:25:200:25:25

and ask her how she was and how she was doing.

0:25:250:25:28

I just don't...I don't understand how he did any of what he did

0:25:280:25:32

but how do you look at that family

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and pretend like nothing is wrong and pretend like you're caring for them?

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That is so chilling.

0:25:420:25:45

What were conditions like for Amanda, Gina

0:25:530:25:55

and Michelle all those years?

0:25:550:25:57

2207 Seymour Avenue seems pretty ordinary.

0:25:570:26:01

Four bedrooms, one bathroom, a basement, no air conditioning.

0:26:010:26:05

Details are starting to emerge of what happened inside.

0:26:050:26:08

For the three women and young child who were trapped here,

0:26:170:26:20

the house is both a prison and a torture chamber.

0:26:200:26:23

This 3-D model shows that it's always dark with windows

0:26:230:26:27

boarded up or covered.

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Inside there are three floors and a basement.

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Castro lives on the ground floor.

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He locks all the rooms upstairs and locks the basement

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and it's the basement where he first brings the women.

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It's small, dark and damp with a low ceiling.

0:26:440:26:49

He chains them to the wall.

0:26:490:26:50

Really hard for me to know

0:26:530:26:54

what she had to go through for the last 10 or 12 years.

0:26:540:26:58

It was a living hell.

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They were chained to the walls to the basement.

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Castro appears to treat the women differently.

0:27:040:27:06

With Michelle Knight getting the worst punishment.

0:27:060:27:09

The police assert that she was raped repeatedly

0:27:090:27:12

and became pregnant several times.

0:27:120:27:14

But every pregnancy was miscarried

0:27:140:27:16

when Castro punched her in the stomach.

0:27:160:27:18

It just really hurts me to think that he had turned around

0:27:200:27:24

and beated her in the stomach just to have her miscarry

0:27:240:27:28

so she couldn't have his kids.

0:27:280:27:31

So have you thought about what Ariel Castro wanted Michelle for?

0:27:310:27:37

Well, I think that

0:27:390:27:42

he wanted her as a sex slave...

0:27:420:27:45

to do whatever...

0:27:450:27:48

whatever he wanted her to do.

0:27:480:27:51

That must make you angry.

0:27:510:27:53

Yes, it does.

0:27:530:27:54

It makes me very angry to know that a human being would do

0:27:540:27:59

something like that to another human.

0:27:590:28:03

She was just terrified for all their lives, for what he might do to them.

0:28:030:28:11

So I guess that's why in a way that she had went along with what he said.

0:28:110:28:16

Them and...them two and her lived a living hell in that house.

0:28:160:28:21

According to police and according to police reports,

0:28:300:28:33

the house was kind of described as a prisoner-of-war camp.

0:28:330:28:37

We were told that duct tape was used

0:28:370:28:40

when Castro left the house for any length of time.

0:28:400:28:43

He would duct tape their mouth.

0:28:430:28:45

So, we now know that the outside front door was padlocked shut.

0:28:460:28:51

We know that the bedroom doors were padlocked.

0:28:510:28:53

We know that they were chained in the basement for some

0:28:530:28:56

period of time, both from the ceiling and from the wall.

0:28:560:28:59

We know that they were starved, we know that they were punched

0:28:590:29:02

and beaten.

0:29:020:29:03

They were really scared. They were scared of...

0:29:090:29:12

To them, he was a monster.

0:29:120:29:14

And that monster they didn't want to deal with.

0:29:140:29:19

So whatever he said, they did, you know?

0:29:190:29:24

And that's the horrible thing about that, that I see,

0:29:240:29:27

he had them out once in the garage.

0:29:270:29:30

I know he's got a big gate.

0:29:300:29:33

He's gone at them, "Scream!

0:29:330:29:35

"All three of you, scream at the top of your lungs."

0:29:350:29:38

Too scared to scream. Too terrified to scream.

0:29:380:29:41

He manipulated them, you know, in such a way that

0:29:410:29:45

he had full control over three women in the house.

0:29:450:29:49

And while Gina DeJesus is locked up in the house, her father is

0:29:490:29:52

visiting the neighbours just across the street.

0:29:520:29:56

Gina's father, yeah, he came around a few times and...

0:29:560:29:59

I remember him coming over a few times and I...

0:29:590:30:02

I remember him coming over and talking...

0:30:020:30:04

One time, I talked to him and I was telling him how sorry I felt.

0:30:040:30:08

That girl was, like, 40 feet away from him and nobody knew nothing.

0:30:080:30:12

They made a big hole over here down the block,

0:30:120:30:17

looking for remains of them girls

0:30:170:30:19

and I remember sitting with Ariel talking about that,

0:30:190:30:25

how a person could do... take these girls and he would say,

0:30:250:30:29

"What kind of person would do that?"

0:30:290:30:33

And all the time it was him and he had them girls up there.

0:30:330:30:37

You know what he did?

0:30:370:30:38

He went and got the tape, the crime-scene tape,

0:30:380:30:42

he helped the police put up...

0:30:420:30:43

I've seen that with my own eyes, put up the crime-scene tape

0:30:430:30:48

around the street so people won't go over there.

0:30:480:30:51

When Gina DeJesus came up missing, he gave money so...

0:30:510:30:57

to her father or something, he made a donation

0:30:570:31:00

so they could keep searching for her and he had her all the time.

0:31:000:31:04

As days become weeks and then months and years in that tiny, dark space,

0:31:120:31:17

the women probably lose track of time.

0:31:170:31:20

They live on a diet of fast food brought to them by their kidnapper.

0:31:200:31:26

The girls down the street comment that they..

0:31:260:31:30

They would see him with big bags of McDonald's early in the morning.

0:31:300:31:36

They ate McDonald's for 10 years.

0:31:360:31:38

'In later years, Castro allows them

0:31:400:31:42

'to live in separate rooms on the first floor where slits were

0:31:420:31:45

'found cut into the doors as if to allow food to be slid in and out.

0:31:450:31:49

'It appears the women only come outside only

0:31:490:31:52

'twice during their decade in captivity.

0:31:520:31:55

'Wearing disguises, they take a short walk in the yard.

0:31:550:31:59

'Ricky Sanchez knew Castro for many years

0:31:590:32:02

'and went inside the house just days before the women escaped.'

0:32:020:32:05

When was the last time you came to the house?

0:32:050:32:07

Last time I came here, it was last Thursday before it happened.

0:32:070:32:12

So that was the 2nd?

0:32:120:32:14

-The 2nd.

-And why did you go over?

-Er...

0:32:140:32:17

I came here cos because we became friends on Facebook

0:32:170:32:22

and he saw a British guitar that I had for sale

0:32:220:32:27

and he liked it pretty much and he wants me to come here

0:32:270:32:31

and show it to him, so then I spent about two hours in the house.

0:32:310:32:37

A young girl came, she show up from the back...

0:32:370:32:39

..and he approached her,

0:32:420:32:43

he grabbed her by the arm and he asked her to say hi to me.

0:32:430:32:50

I said hi to her but she never said hi to me

0:32:500:32:52

and then he said that that was his granddaughter.

0:32:520:32:55

Was there anything else that you kind of noticed

0:32:550:32:58

when you were in the house?

0:32:580:32:59

There were some type of, like, noises that I hear.

0:32:590:33:02

I don't know exactly where the noises came from and I asked him,

0:33:020:33:06

"What are these noises coming from?" And he said that he had some

0:33:060:33:10

dogs in the second level of the house, the second floor.

0:33:100:33:14

Knowing what you know now, knowing what you might have heard,

0:33:140:33:18

what those noises might have been, how does that make you feel?

0:33:180:33:20

When I heard the news at first,

0:33:200:33:22

when it came out on Monday, I couldn't even believe.

0:33:220:33:25

I went home and started looking at the news,

0:33:250:33:27

really deep into the news, and when I saw it was him, I saw

0:33:270:33:30

the picture, I could not believe, I was just inside the house.

0:33:300:33:34

The little girl Ricky spoke to is not Castro's granddaughter,

0:33:340:33:38

she's his daughter Jocelyn.

0:33:380:33:40

On Christmas Day 2006, Amanda Berry aged 20 gives birth

0:33:400:33:45

to her in a paddling pool in the basement.

0:33:450:33:48

Michelle Knight is put in charge of the delivery.

0:33:480:33:50

She says Castro threatens to kill her if the baby dies.

0:33:500:33:54

Michelle keeps the baby alive with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

0:33:540:33:58

One of Castro's older daughters recalls seeing a picture.

0:33:580:34:02

He showed me a picture that was on a cellphone randomly and he said,

0:34:020:34:08

"Look at this cute little girl."

0:34:080:34:10

It was a face shot and I said, "She's cute, who is that?"

0:34:100:34:16

you know, and he said, "This is my girlfriend's child."

0:34:160:34:20

And I said, "Dad, that girl looks like Emily."

0:34:200:34:25

Emily's my younger sister and he said,

0:34:250:34:28

"No, that's not my child, that's my girlfriend's child by somebody else."

0:34:280:34:32

Cleveland June 2008 - the moment

0:34:370:34:40

when the local police did catch up with Ariel Castro.

0:34:400:34:42

Arresting officer Jim Simone doesn't know it but Castro has

0:34:530:34:57

already kidnapped three girls and is holding them captive in his house.

0:34:570:35:00

I stopped him on a traffic violation in June of 2008.

0:35:030:35:07

He didn't have a licence.

0:35:260:35:28

The plates did not belong to that particular motorcycle.

0:35:280:35:32

Normally I would have arrested him, had he given me any back talk,

0:35:320:35:37

had been flippant with me or made some remark.

0:35:370:35:39

I'd have slipped the cuffs on him and taken him to jail.

0:35:390:35:41

He mentioned the fact that he was a school bus driver.

0:35:490:35:53

I didn't want to take him to jail

0:35:530:35:55

and have him lose his job over a traffic violation.

0:35:550:35:58

I didn't arrest him.

0:36:070:36:08

I gave him a ticket and let him push the bike home.

0:36:080:36:10

I did a check on him. All these cars have computers

0:36:100:36:12

and you can do a background check on anybody.

0:36:120:36:15

He only had a few traffic violations and no criminal background.

0:36:150:36:20

With that, I gave him the tickets and let him go.

0:36:200:36:22

I made 10,000 arrests as a policeman.

0:36:220:36:24

That's not traffic tickets, that's 10,000 people I've put

0:36:240:36:28

handcuffs on thrown in the back of the car and took them to jail.

0:36:280:36:32

There are times when you're amazed how bad it gets.

0:36:320:36:35

Jim has been a Cleveland cop for 38 years.

0:36:370:36:40

18 patrolling the second district which includes Seymour Avenue.

0:36:400:36:43

I went past this house 1,000 times. Nothing at that house

0:36:460:36:49

drew my attention, even with the crime-scene tape around it.

0:36:490:36:53

It was just a house on Seymour.

0:36:530:36:55

Yet in that house, there was

0:36:550:36:57

a heinous crime being committed every second of every day for ten years.

0:36:570:37:00

While police incompetence features highly in many of America's

0:37:020:37:05

most notorious kidnap cases, the failure to find Castro

0:37:050:37:08

and the Cleveland captives may be down to something else.

0:37:080:37:12

The missing persons database kept by the Cleveland police

0:37:130:37:15

department has over 100 names on it as of last week with nearly

0:37:150:37:19

half of them missing all year.

0:37:190:37:22

When you look at this list of names,

0:37:220:37:24

you get an idea of how swamped the police are.

0:37:240:37:27

Do they have the resources to cope?

0:37:270:37:29

In the Second District alone, which is where Castro's house is,

0:37:290:37:33

71 people are missing right now.

0:37:330:37:36

The number of detectives assigned to work on cases of missing

0:37:360:37:39

people is one.

0:37:390:37:40

Do you feel like the police have done a good job?

0:37:430:37:46

No, I think that they could have done a better job

0:37:480:37:51

than what they were doing, especially for her.

0:37:510:37:53

Do you feel there's enough resources at the police's disposal to

0:37:530:37:57

successfully look for these kids that go missing?

0:37:570:38:01

No.

0:38:010:38:02

No, there's not. We handle a realm of things.

0:38:020:38:07

It's not just the missing persons. It's the auto theft.

0:38:070:38:10

It's the burglaries. It's the rape.

0:38:100:38:12

The B and Es, the shooting, the homicide.

0:38:120:38:15

In reality, the chief may want to contradict me later on,

0:38:150:38:19

we're stretched thin.

0:38:190:38:22

You don't have the man hours to invest in a major investigation.

0:38:220:38:27

When I was a young policemen, it was about catching the bad guy.

0:38:270:38:31

Today, it's how much is it going to cost us to catch the bad guy?

0:38:310:38:34

If it costs too much, it's set aside.

0:38:340:38:37

What happens, they make the initial investigation, then we wait.

0:38:370:38:40

We wait for the body to be found, or in this case,

0:38:400:38:45

for some amazing rescue.

0:38:450:38:47

..members of the community who still want to know what happened to her.

0:38:470:38:51

Just two weeks before the amazing rescue,

0:38:510:38:53

local TV marks the tenth anniversary of Amanda Berry's disappearance.

0:38:530:38:58

No-one knows she's alive and in a house just a few miles away.

0:38:580:39:02

The vigil just breaking up in the last five minutes and those

0:39:020:39:05

who were in attendance today and everyone around here

0:39:050:39:08

and the city to know it's never too late to do the right thing.

0:39:080:39:12

No tip, no clue, is too small.

0:39:120:39:15

The clue is provided by Ariel Castro himself.

0:39:160:39:20

He's gone out but hasn't chained up all of his captives.

0:39:200:39:24

Finally, he's made a mistake.

0:39:250:39:27

Was he good or what?!

0:39:280:39:30

What kind of person would do something like that? He slipped.

0:39:300:39:35

Amanda Berry can see the front door open

0:39:380:39:40

though the outer storm door made of thin wire mesh is bolted shut.

0:39:400:39:43

Often Castro would test his captives by leaving doors unlocked.

0:39:440:39:48

He beats them if they try to get out.

0:39:480:39:50

Because Amanda can see Aurora Marti on the porch opposite,

0:39:520:39:56

she goes for it.

0:39:560:39:58

-'Help me. I'm Amanda Berry.

-Do you need police, fire or ambulance?

0:39:580:40:01

-'I need police.

-OK, what's going on there?

0:40:010:40:05

'I've been kidnapped and I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here.

0:40:050:40:09

'I'm free now.'

0:40:090:40:10

On a day that will long be remembered, Charles Ramsey's

0:40:100:40:14

account of the break-out makes him an instant internet legend.

0:40:140:40:17

I knew something was wrong

0:40:170:40:20

when a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms.

0:40:200:40:23

Something is wrong here!

0:40:230:40:25

Dead giveaway.

0:40:250:40:27

'From Seymour Avenue, ambulances rush Michelle, Amanda,

0:40:270:40:30

'Gina and the child to the local hospital.

0:40:300:40:33

'Gerald Maloney is the admitting doctor.'

0:40:330:40:35

-You were in charge of their care for the evening.

-Yes.

0:40:370:40:42

They came in by ambulance and there was a lot of law enforcement

0:40:420:40:47

officers, Both local police and FBI,

0:40:470:40:49

with them as well at that point.

0:40:490:40:51

It was fairly chaotic when everybody came in initially.

0:40:510:40:54

There were a lot of people here.

0:40:540:40:56

There was a lot of energy, good energy.

0:40:560:40:58

Where were the girls taken immediately when they arrived?

0:40:580:41:01

They were taken to the rooms behind us.

0:41:010:41:04

-Would it be possible to have a look?

-Absolutely.

0:41:040:41:07

'It's the first time any cameras have been allowed into the room

0:41:070:41:10

'where Amanda, Michelle and Gina were examined.'

0:41:100:41:13

We did an exam, checked their head, neck,

0:41:130:41:17

body extremities looking for any injuries or medical issues.

0:41:170:41:23

Too often, we hear the end to these stories...

0:41:230:41:25

We don't hear of people being found

0:41:250:41:27

and being alive.

0:41:270:41:29

It's usually finding remains.

0:41:290:41:35

We're very excited they were alive.

0:41:350:41:37

We were very excited we were the first safe harbour for them

0:41:370:41:40

after they'd been rescued.

0:41:400:41:42

Nurse Betsy Martinez is a neighbour of the DeJesus family and has

0:41:430:41:47

a daughter the same age as Gina.

0:41:470:41:49

She's on duty on May 6th and is just about to have dinner

0:41:490:41:52

when her boss breaks the news that will live with her for ever.

0:41:520:41:55

They found the man that had Berry and Gina DeJesus. I could not...

0:41:560:42:00

I didn't understand. Who?

0:42:000:42:03

I kept saying, "Who?" He said, "Amanda Berry and Georgina DeJesus."

0:42:030:42:06

I was in awe about it. He was, "I need somebody back there with them."

0:42:060:42:11

Forget dinner, I'm on my way in.

0:42:110:42:13

I dropped my purse, ran back into the trauma bays

0:42:130:42:16

when I noticed Georgina and Amanda Berry walking in.

0:42:160:42:19

It was a big deal to me cos it was like hitting home.

0:42:190:42:22

I remember seeing Georgina and I hugged her and said, "Welcome home."

0:42:220:42:26

I tried to do some nursing and get her vital signs

0:42:260:42:30

and I was just in awe about it. I kept staring at her.

0:42:300:42:35

I couldn't believe that I was sitting next to her.

0:42:350:42:38

Then to see Amanda Berry and her beautiful child.

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It was confusion, but I had to do my job and stay professional first.

0:42:420:42:49

What I thought was professional was to love them and let them

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know that they were safe. You were crying, you were happy, you were sad.

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It wasn't about what happened to them. It was welcome home.

0:42:580:43:03

"We've been looking for you for a decade. What can I get for you?

0:43:030:43:07

"What can I do for you?"

0:43:070:43:08

It was a very emotional and exciting day to have the pleasure...

0:43:080:43:11

to see her father and her mother and sister walk in.

0:43:110:43:14

To see them for that first moment. You got butterflies.

0:43:140:43:19

You got goose bumps.

0:43:190:43:21

You try to wipe your tears and stay professional but I couldn't help it.

0:43:210:43:26

How did the girls seem?

0:43:260:43:28

They were still trying to get their surroundings.

0:43:280:43:30

They were, like, "Who are you?"

0:43:300:43:32

I made sure that everyone introduced themselves.

0:43:320:43:34

So they knew that they were workers here. They were safe.

0:43:340:43:37

I did notice that the girls wanted to be together.

0:43:370:43:41

Every time we would separate them,

0:43:410:43:43

they would come search for each other.

0:43:430:43:45

They kept asking for the other one. We had to let them know,

0:43:450:43:48

"They're just around the corner. They're here."

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You could tell that they had a bond.

0:43:500:43:52

You mention that you're from the neighbourhood.

0:43:520:43:55

What was the effect at the time when the girls disappeared?

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You could not go anywhere in Cleveland

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and not know Amanda Berry's name or Georgina.

0:44:000:44:02

You could not go anywhere in Cleveland...

0:44:020:44:05

There were signs everywhere. The family never gave up.

0:44:050:44:08

I could not believe that they were alive. I did not...

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This doesn't happen.

0:44:110:44:12

This is a miracle that I will probably never see again in my life.

0:44:120:44:17

This does not happen. People do not come alive out of this.

0:44:170:44:20

I remember one time, pinching Georgina and she's like,

0:44:210:44:24

"Why did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because you're here.

0:44:240:44:27

"This is not a dream."

0:44:270:44:29

It was that amazing.

0:44:290:44:30

After 10 years of waiting, relatives

0:44:320:44:34

and neighbours can finally celebrate. But there's also anger.

0:44:340:44:38

Some like Gina's uncle struggle for control.

0:44:380:44:42

I want to bust down and cry right now.

0:44:420:44:44

-But...

-Tears of relief?

-Yeah.

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And I don't know if you can print this or put this on the air

0:44:500:44:54

but if I got my hands on that guy...

0:44:540:44:57

Amanda Berry had made the news for 10 years as a missing person.

0:44:590:45:03

Now it's a different story. From the sister who dreamed of her

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coming home, a plea for privacy.

0:45:070:45:09

I just want to say we are so happy to have Amanda

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and her daughter home.

0:45:120:45:14

I want to thank the public and the media for their support

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and courage over the years.

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At this time, our family would request privacy so my sister

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and niece and I can have time to recover.

0:45:240:45:26

Amanda learns that, in 2006, three years after her kidnap,

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her mother had died.

0:45:320:45:34

Louwanna Miller had never stopped fighting

0:45:340:45:36

for her daughter to be found.

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Friends say she never recovered from Amanda's disappearance.

0:45:370:45:40

Gina had been taken aged 14.

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She returns to her parents as a 23-year-old.

0:45:440:45:46

We want to have a block party and close the street down.

0:45:480:45:51

CHEERING

0:45:510:45:53

That's the best...

0:45:580:46:00

That's the best Mother's Day present any mother could have.

0:46:010:46:04

CHEERING

0:46:060:46:08

CHEERING

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-REPORTER:

-She gave a big thumbs up as she got out of the van.

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There she goes, in the green.

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Michelle's condition is more serious.

0:46:410:46:44

She leaves hospital five days later but doesn't go home to her family.

0:46:440:46:48

Instead, she goes to Gina's house.

0:46:480:46:50

I have come to Gina's house and it is actually very confusing.

0:46:530:46:57

I don't really know how to feel.

0:46:570:47:00

The banner suggests celebration

0:47:000:47:04

and, yet, is this a celebration?

0:47:040:47:08

The police tape is a very stark reminder that something

0:47:080:47:12

terrible has happened.

0:47:120:47:14

The 14-year-old girl on that missing poster is gone.

0:47:150:47:20

Who is she now?

0:47:200:47:21

We know that Gina and Michelle are in that house.

0:47:210:47:24

It's interesting that, having been forced together for nearly

0:47:240:47:29

nine years, Gina and Michelle are now choosing to be together.

0:47:290:47:33

I assume because they have grown to rely upon one another.

0:47:330:47:37

So I don't really feel comfortable staying here any longer

0:47:370:47:42

because both girls obviously want privacy

0:47:420:47:48

and don't want cameras outside their house the whole time.

0:47:480:47:54

I'm kind of looking at that tarpaulin and this is speculation

0:47:540:47:57

but I assume that the last thing that either of them want is to be

0:47:570:48:01

cooped up inside a house after being cooped up inside a house for

0:48:010:48:04

so long so they have had to put the tarpaulin across the backyard

0:48:040:48:08

so they can still maintain a degree of privacy.

0:48:080:48:11

Michelle's grandmother is still waiting to see her.

0:48:160:48:19

We've was told that she didn't want to see us at all

0:48:190:48:22

so that kind of really hurt all of us to figure...

0:48:220:48:28

You know, to think that all these years that she didn't want to see us.

0:48:280:48:33

So we was all kind of frustrated and crying and all this

0:48:330:48:37

because if somebody would come up to you and say,

0:48:370:48:40

"Well, your daughter or your granddaughter

0:48:400:48:42

"don't want to see you,"

0:48:420:48:44

it would kind of hurt you or break your heart

0:48:440:48:46

and that's kind of what it was doing to us.

0:48:460:48:49

We thought, kind of, that she was blaming us

0:48:490:48:54

for not giving her the attention like Amanda's and Gina's family did.

0:48:540:49:02

Do you think that, from what you have seen of the press coverage,

0:49:020:49:07

your family has been represented in a good light?

0:49:070:49:10

Well, we heard that...

0:49:100:49:13

It was going around in there that, as a family, we was beating her,

0:49:150:49:20

tormenting her, we was abusing her, um...

0:49:200:49:26

..we didn't care about her or nothing because we didn't look for her.

0:49:290:49:33

That's not the truth. That's not the truth at all.

0:49:330:49:36

So, if he is found guilty, what punishment should

0:49:420:49:44

Ariel Castro now face - life in prison or the death penalty?

0:49:440:49:49

The death penalty is on the statute in Ohio

0:49:490:49:51

and prosecutors say that they will press for it

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if it is found that Castro forcibly caused any of the women to miscarry.

0:49:530:49:58

In Ohio, a foetus has personhood

0:49:580:50:02

so, as a person, that can be construed as murder.

0:50:020:50:04

The county prosecutor, Timothy McGinty,

0:50:040:50:07

has said he intends to pursue that and see

0:50:070:50:09

if the claims that he forced miscarriages five times is true.

0:50:090:50:13

I suppose medical testing could figure that out in some fashion.

0:50:130:50:17

I'm certainly not a doctor but, yeah, a foetus as a person,

0:50:170:50:21

has personhood in Ohio, therefore the murder charge.

0:50:210:50:25

And if a murder is committed in the commission of another crime,

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it would be aggravated murder and that would be the death penalty.

0:50:280:50:31

For multiple murders is another aggravating circumstances.

0:50:310:50:34

In that case, we have the death penalty in Ohio

0:50:340:50:36

and he could be executed.

0:50:360:50:37

Talking about the death penalty, I think that's too easy for him.

0:50:370:50:41

I think they should just make him suffer

0:50:410:50:44

like he made them girls suffer.

0:50:440:50:46

He needs to suffer. The death penalty is way too easy.

0:50:460:50:51

As far as it goes, if they give him the death sentence,

0:50:510:50:54

the death penalty, that's fine.

0:50:540:50:57

But I'd really like to see him get more than that.

0:50:570:51:00

I'd like to really see him suffer as they had to suffer.

0:51:000:51:03

Justice needs to be served here, for sure.

0:51:030:51:06

He should never see the day of light again in his life.

0:51:060:51:09

He'll never see the daylight again.

0:51:090:51:11

Whatever he did to those girls, you can rest assured that while

0:51:110:51:14

he is in the penitentiary it's going to be very, very difficult for him.

0:51:140:51:17

Cos there is a hierarchy in a jail.

0:51:170:51:20

At the top of the list is the police-killer.

0:51:200:51:23

He is the number one guy.

0:51:230:51:25

It goes all the way down and the bottom social rung

0:51:250:51:27

in the jail are perverts and sexual deviants.

0:51:270:51:31

Because even the murderers have mothers, sisters and kids.

0:51:310:51:35

No-one wants to be in Ariel Castro's shoes right now.

0:51:350:51:40

What do you think should happen to Ariel Castro?

0:51:400:51:44

-Are you asking me as a policeman or a father?

-Both.

0:51:440:51:48

As a father, I have three daughters, I think that

0:51:480:51:53

Ariel Castro should be brought out onto the streets

0:51:530:51:55

and handcuffed to that telephone pole

0:51:550:51:57

and we go get the fathers of those three girls and give them

0:51:570:52:01

Louisville Sluggers and go, "There he is.

0:52:010:52:03

"Do what a father would do."

0:52:030:52:06

As a police officer, I am bound by oath.

0:52:060:52:09

There are things that you know you would love to do,

0:52:090:52:12

that the person deserves it, but you can't do that.

0:52:120:52:16

The county prosecutor is currently

0:52:170:52:19

preparing the case against Ariel Castro.

0:52:190:52:22

Right now he is going to present evidence to a county grand jury

0:52:220:52:26

and by every indication he is going to seek additional charges.

0:52:260:52:30

He is looking at filing charges for every day each woman was

0:52:300:52:34

kidnapped, every time that they were raped

0:52:340:52:37

and every time there was a lost pregnancy.

0:52:370:52:40

I don't believe there is a torture law in Ohio but there

0:52:400:52:44

really doesn't need to be one for him to seek the death penalty.

0:52:440:52:48

This is a very hard-nosed, aggressive prosecutor.

0:52:480:52:51

He not only sounds tough,

0:52:510:52:52

he is tough and I think he will seek the maximum penalty.

0:52:520:52:55

But Ariel Castro's defence team has said that he intends to plead

0:52:560:53:00

not guilty to all charges.

0:53:000:53:03

I spoke with his attorneys.

0:53:030:53:05

His attorneys told me that Castro has not confessed to any crime.

0:53:050:53:10

In fact, the attorneys call him a regular guy who has a heart

0:53:100:53:14

and who loves his child.

0:53:140:53:16

I think that the initial portrayal by the media

0:53:270:53:33

has been one of a, quote, monster

0:53:330:53:36

and that's not the impression that I got

0:53:360:53:39

when I talked to him for three hours.

0:53:390:53:41

This is the initial stages of the investigation

0:53:410:53:46

by the prosecutor's office as well as the defence

0:53:460:53:50

but it is to be expected that it will be a not guilty plea to all charges.

0:53:500:53:54

For his victims, Michelle, Amanda and Gina,

0:53:560:54:00

this will lengthen the legal proceedings.

0:54:000:54:03

Meanwhile, his cousin Maria wants to convince them

0:54:030:54:05

that the Castros are a good family.

0:54:050:54:07

As a family, the Castros, we are

0:54:090:54:11

so incredibly sorry that these horrible things happened

0:54:110:54:18

to them at the hands of someone

0:54:180:54:22

that is a part of our family.

0:54:220:54:25

Or was a part of our family.

0:54:250:54:27

You know, I would love nothing more than for, one day,

0:54:270:54:32

for these girls to be able to meet the rest of us

0:54:320:54:38

in one of our family gatherings or one of our family reunions

0:54:380:54:42

and...and see the good people that are a part of this family,

0:54:420:54:48

the happy people that are a part of this family,

0:54:480:54:50

the people that are generous and kind and loving

0:54:500:54:53

and...and I would love for them to experience that.

0:54:530:54:59

I would love nothing more than to meet that little girl Jocelyn.

0:54:590:55:04

I mean, it's been proven now that she is his child.

0:55:050:55:11

That means she's our cousin. She is our blood.

0:55:130:55:17

And I want her to know that she doesn't have monster in her blood.

0:55:180:55:23

She has good, kind, generous, loving blood.

0:55:240:55:30

If there is a positive message that survives this story, it is

0:55:360:55:39

perhaps one of strength in the face of terrible circumstances.

0:55:390:55:43

There is the incredible strength of the three women,

0:55:430:55:46

Michelle, Amanda and Gina, who survived together, defied their

0:55:460:55:49

captor and are now receiving the best psychological and medical care.

0:55:490:55:54

Strength is also being displayed by the people of Cleveland.

0:55:540:55:57

Their initial joy and relief was quickly overtaken by fear and guilt.

0:55:570:56:02

I have heard people talk about being scared of their neighbours,

0:56:020:56:05

feeling that they can't trust anyone.

0:56:050:56:07

But now a new mood is detectable.

0:56:070:56:09

People are talking about how to make changes

0:56:090:56:11

to ensure that this never happens again.

0:56:110:56:14

The phrase that I keep hearing is, "We are our brother's keeper."

0:56:140:56:17

CHANTING: Gina! Gina! Gina!

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CHEERING

0:56:190:56:20

-REPORTER:

-There she goes, in the green.

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